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All right, everybody, you are listening to Opposition Territory here at the Philadelphia
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Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philmy sports podcast show in the
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world, that's right over ten years strong. Got a great discussion coming your
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way, as we always do on our Opposition Territory podcast. This week,
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we're going to the NFC North what has been happening with a specific team in
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the city of Chicago during this offseason and what the expectations are for this Chicago
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Bears team in the twenty twenty three season. We've got a great discussion.
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Let's get to it. It is great to have back on the podcast.
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You can find him and it's just all of his awesome material and his colleague's
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material over at Windy City Gridiron dot Com. We love that Spnation site.
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You know, we love our spionation sites here at the PST podcast Show.
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You can find him on Twitter at Jacob and Fonte twenty four. Mister Jacob
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and Fonte, How are you doing, Buddy? I'm doing great, Jeff.
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It's the it's the down part in the in summer and down part in
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the NFL off season. So uh yeah, just gotta just gotta waited out
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until training camp. But you know, that provides a lot of time for
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you know, little speculation whatever or that. Actually, you know, gives
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me a little bit of time to actually step outside for one swhich you know
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I don't a lot during the during the season, that's for sure. Well,
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it gives you a lot more time to get on social sites like threads
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and blue Sky in case you want to. Yeah, are you are?
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Seriously are you on those sites at all? Do you want to promo anything?
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You don't have time, you don't want Yeah, so I am on
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Threads. It's at It's just Jacob and Fonte haven't joined Blue Sky at I
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don't know. I'm still waiting to see how this whole thing goes the same
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nightmare right now. So yeah, but once uh you know, once more
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people start jumping jumping ship, then we'll figure it out from there. But
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mostly Twitter, but absolutely, yes, absolutely, all right, folks.
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Well as we know, training camp is right around the corner, Training camp
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is gonna be here before we know it. I can't believe it. And
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there's always that insatiable sense of optimism for NFL fans and for their teams,
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teams that they're following. So when it comes to the Chicago Bears fans,
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Jacob like, what's what's a word to describe how the fan base there in
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Chicago is looking at this upcoming season and why I'm gonna go with Let's go
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with growth, all right, simply because I think that good word. Yeah,
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I mean, not too many people expecting them to be like a strong
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Bowl contender or anything. But I mean when you have when you finish three
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and fourteen, there's nowhere really you can go but us. So with you
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know that, and when you consider all the moves that they made over the
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offseason, everyone they brought in on both sides of the ball, you know,
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Tremaine Edmunds, TJ. Edwards on defense, Tyreek Stevenson at corner,
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then obviously DJ Moore at wide receiver, Darnell Wright at offensive tackle. I
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mean, you know, there's a handful of new guys who are going to
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probably step in and make an immediate impact and see significant playing time. So
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I think this is this year, depending on how it goes, will say
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a lot about I think this regime and what the future of the team is.
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I'm not expecting them to compete right away. I don't think too many
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people are ye. But as long as as long as there's growth, as
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long as there's significant growth, that I think things will be training in the
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right direction. I think that's a common sense approach and thought process for Bears
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fans, Bears Nation to have during the course of this offseason as they look
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to this season. Like you said, a lot of pieces were brought in,
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and we're going to get into some of those pieces here during our discussion
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we need to, but we need to, of course start off by really
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discussing the quarterback situation here with the Chicago Bears and who and that quarterback that
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is looking to take that next step in his career and what he can do
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for this team in this offense. I do believe that Justin Fields really could
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emerge as one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL this season, not just
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saying that. I do think that he could, of course, based on
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what he can do with his feet, but a lot does need to happen
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from an offensive standpoint for that to actually happen for him, and he needs
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to develop his game more from the pocket. In my opinion, heard a
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lot of Bears writers say that on various podcasts, and just It's been written
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about time and time again. Needs to understand develop in the pocket, his
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pocket management, his footwork inside the pocket. Blah blah blah, the pocket,
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the pocket with Justin Fields, However, you know what it's all said
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and done, Like, what does Justin Fields need to do this season,
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Jacob to move the needle for this team? And how do you see him
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doing it? Yeah? So I think you hit the nail on the head.
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I mean, everyone knows that Fields is an incredible runner and that you
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know, honestly, I put him in a debate with Lamar Jackson as the
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top rushing quarterbacksolutely. Yeah, it's that's one and two. Whatever order you
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want to put it, that's totally up to you. But that's undisputed one
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and two. And with that in mind, though, there is some significant
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progress that needs to be made as a passer, and I think part of
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that, you know, like you meant, like you mentioned, is pocket
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management, pocket awareness. I know a lot of people tend to they tend
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to mention like how much time the quarterback spends in the pocket, like that
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stat and how Fields is typically near the top in that. But I think
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that stat's pretty misleading given the fact that Bears are pretty play action heavy,
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or at least they were last year, and naturally those plays are going to
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take more time to develop, which means more time in the pocket. And
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you're also looking at a quarterback who scrambles more often than you know, say,
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I don't know, like a like a Joe Burrow or something, or
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someone who's known generally more as I don't want to say, you know,
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I'm not a stationary pocket passer, but they don't have the same level of
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athleticism. And it's a play extending ability, right, So I think that,
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you know. Even with that said, though, sensing pressure is something
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he'll need to work on. Knowing when to throw the ball away. I
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think it's something he can work on because he takes too many sacks, which
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is weird because when he runs the ball, he does a really good job
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of knowing not when to take hits. Right, it seems to be like
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the opposite approach when he's in the pocket, like he wants, you know,
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I don't want to say he wants to take the hit, but he's
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not afraid of taking the hit, And I feel like he shouldn't be afraid,
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but he should avoid it. And I think that's something that he'll need
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to work on. Obviously, there's a lot of stuff that's going to need
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to improve around him too for him to take that next step, I think.
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But they brought in some really good pieces, and you're giving Fields a
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full off season in a new and a new and in a scheme that he's
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already had experience in, so you can further learn it another opportunity to grow.
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So I'm interested in seeing what's going to happen with him. I think
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that there's definitely a lot of work that needs to be done, but I
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think the ceiling is very, very high. You use that word growth and
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growth again obviously you know need to need to look at justin Fields with regard
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to that. And I think it's interesting too, Jacob how you mentioned him
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sensing pressure too, and this organization did a lot of good things for this
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team over the course of the of the off season. You know, it
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could be argued that the offensive line, the wide receivers, the linebackers,
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you know, all of these groups could arguably be some of the most improved
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on this Bears team here. So I'm wondering, like if you had to
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pinpoint the most improved unit on this team heading into training camp, which is
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the most improved unit in your mind? And why I'm gonna go with the
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linebackers actually, okay with that what they had last year, I mean,
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especially after they traded Roquan Smith to Baltimore, you had Jack Sanborn as the
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top linebacker and he did a good job, like especially for an undrafted rookie,
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like nobody would have expected him to do as well as he did.
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But with that in mind, now he's entering as maybe you know, the
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linebacker three. And that's factoring in Tremaine Edmond's two time Pro Bowler, arguably
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coming off the best season of his career, which staying a lot because you
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know, he didn't make the Pro Bowl this past year, but on film
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he played better at least in my opinion, and t J. Edwards was
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phenomenal for Philadelphia absolute last year. That's a very good tan, very good
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tandem. And I think you're looking at you're comparing you could have signed Roquan
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to like twenty million a year, or you could have signed both Tremaine Edmonds
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and t J. Edwards for like what like twenty three or twenty four or
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something like. For that just three to four million dollars extra and they got
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a second round pick out of the deal by trading ropelind Yeah and A.
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So I think the Bears came away tremendously, at least at linebacker. And
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you're talking about bringing in Noah Sewell as a fifth round pick, who I
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thought was really good value that late. So with that in mind, the
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depth is better. And even you know Dylan Cole's in him. He had
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some playing time in Tennessee. But the starting lineup of linebackers is insanely improved.
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And we'll see what happens with the rest of the defense, but at
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least the linebackers, I feel pretty confident they're going to be able to elevate
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the defense beyond what they had what they had last year, which isn't saying
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much, but it's it's something I think y'all are gonna like. T J
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Edwards. Really two years ago, a lot of US Eagles fans we kind
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of liked him. We knew he was growing again we're using that word growth.
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Yeah, it's perfect, perfect for what the Chicago Bears defense in the
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middle of that defense absolutely needs and what he is going to give him.
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It was so sad to see him leave, you know, during the course
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of free agency, but you know, it is what it is. The
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NFL is what it is. But you know, on the flip side of
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things here is we're moving along. Jacob. I think the biggest concern for
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the Bears this upcoming season, from all that I've read and just remembering watching
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some of the games last year, really seems to be from like an edge
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rushing standpoint. The Bears had the worst ranked pass rush in the NFL last
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year. They had twenty sacks in seventeen games. It's nothing to write home
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about. For sure. It was a rough season getting that pressure off the
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edge and with the talent that was there, and I'm not necessarily sure it
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has improved that much. And I wanted to get your thoughts on this.
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Do you see this trend continuing this coming season? Unfortunately? I do.
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I think that when you have the roster that the Bears had in twenty twenty
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two, that's something that can't be fixed all in one offseason. And I
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want to say Ryan Poles did a very good job of fixing most of that,
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but you know, realistically, there's one or two positions that are going
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to be sacrificed in the process, and this year it was edge. And
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you know that's not to say that they didn't, you know, bring in
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new guys. I mean, you've got DeMarcus Walker rushing off the edge,
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who's coming off a career a year with Titans, Rashime Green, someone who
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can play inside outside, and you've got that with Trevis Gibson Dominique Robinson,
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and there's still some good edge rushers out in free agency. I wouldn't be
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surprised if the Bears at the very least are active in trying to get one
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of those guys, like a Yannikenkway or Justin Houston or something like that.
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I know it kind of seems like a Bears or whatever. It's like,
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okay, but when are the Bears going to sign one of these guys,
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because like we're talking about it all off season and it just hasn't happened yet.
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So I still expect some sort of a move to happen. But even
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then, realistically, unless you're making a splash trade for someone, which I
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don't think they do, you're not fixing defense and end this off season or
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this season. Really, I think the rest of the defense, you know,
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the linebackers being better, the secondary being better. I think that'll help
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elevate the D line, and I think it'll be a better unit than last
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year. But again, like you mentioned, you know, twenty sacks in
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the whole season, that's a very low bar. So I don't think it's
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gonna be one of the league's most intimidating units by any means. Better.
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Yes, but that just depends. You know, I really don't put much
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stock into that word in this case. All right, sounds good again.
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Folks were talking to Jacob Infante from Windy City gridiron dot Com, great sp
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nation site, a lot of great content about the Chicago Bears and even the
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NFC North over there as well. Follow on Twitter at Jacob and Fonte twenty
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four and yes he is on threads at Jacob and Fonte and I've forgot's sake,
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I'm on threads too at mister Jeff Warren. That's what it is.
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Let's see how long this lasts. It's actually been a good community over there.
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I cannot believe it. It's not gonna last. I know it's not
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gonna last, and I know I'm sounding like a pessimist and a cynic,
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but it's just not gonna last, folks. Let's enjoy it for what it
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is. I tried to do some promos here for Jacob and it turned into
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a Threads discussion. So let's move on to the Chicago Bears and more specifically
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this NFC North. I think it's gonna be a fascinating division to watch.
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There are a lot of fascinating teams aside from the Chicago Bears as well.
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I mean, there seems to be room though for the Bears to make a
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lot of noise this year. There's uncertainty with the Packers offense and their quarterback.
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I mean, we talked about it last week on the Opposition Territory podcast
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here at the PSD podcast show with our friend Texts Western from Acme Packing Company.
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I mean, yeah, I think Jordan Love is going to certainly have
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some trials and tribulations that he does understand what that offense is and how they're
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going to probably try to tailor to his strengths. But there's still a lot
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of uncertainty there. And the Lions, they are a team apparently on the
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rise here, but are they for real? We're gonna find out a lot
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more about them this year. And then of course a Minnesota Vikings. They
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just, man, they just can't ever seem to get over the hump,
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given the talent that they've had on that team, specifically the offense for quite
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some time. It's been since twenty eighteen, Jacob As, you know that,
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since Chicago won the division. So how do you really see this division
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possibly shaping up this season? Here be told, I wish I had an
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answer for you, but I really okay, it's gonna be one of the
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more unpredictable divisions in the NFL this year. Absolutely, I don't. I
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don't think there's a bad team in the division, but I don't think there's
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a great one either. And I'd say right now I think the Lions win
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the NFC North. But even then, Like Jared Goff has been solid,
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you know since coming to Detroit, But how high is your ceiling with him
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at corpsolutely, you know, That's what I want to know. And like
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he's got a lot of talent around him, but it's not like the Rams
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team he went to the Super Bowl with. It's not that talented of a
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team. He doesn't have that stacked of a coaching staff, even though it
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is a good coaching staff there in Detroit, Minnesota. I feel like they
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got worse this offseason. You know, they want a lot of one possession
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games that were really really close against teams that they you know, for a
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team who finished thirteen and four, you to assume they blew out looking back
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on it, but uh, yeah, I don't know. I think that's
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a good team. That's a that's a another good team. But I don't
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think they got better. I don't think there their ways of winning are sustainable.
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So I think we're going to see a little bit of regression. You
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know, they'll still compete for you know what, for the NFC North title,
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They'll still compete for a wild card spot. But you know, I'm
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not expecting I'm not expecting thirteen wins again, that's for sure. I do
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wonder if I do wonder if you could see the Bears possibly getting that second
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spot in the in the division because I take a look at the Packers,
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and yes, again talking with our guest last week, there was that level
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of optimism that because Jordan Love has been behind Aaron Rodgers for so many years,
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you know, and he has some experience also starting It's not like he's
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some sort of rookie coming in. But I still think during the course of
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a seventeen game season, there are gonna be some ups, There's gonna be
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some downs. How does Jordan Love handle those downs? Especially since he is
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really in the shadow of one Aaron Rodgers. And the fact of the matter
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is, before Aaron Rodgers, it was Brett Farve who was the quarterback of
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that team. This team has had two quarterbacks to starting quarterbacks now for the
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past how many decades. It's a new era, and new eras usually do
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not go all that well and all that smooth rate from the start, unless
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you're the Philadelphia Eagles, of course. But yeah, of course. But
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I think there's something to be said about this Bears offseason and the fact that
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they could potentially be that number two ranked team in the division when it's all
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said and done. I think it's a possibility. Yeah, I certainly think
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it's possible. What I bet money on it, I don't. I don't
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know. I mean, I'm not a bet again, so I'm a you
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know, little a little hesitant there. But at the same time, it's
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something i'd consider just because, you know, like I mentioned with the Vikings,
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I think I think they do regress, They'll They're too good of a
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team to truly fall out of the playoff race, I think. But I
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just don't know how high the ceiling is going to be this year. And
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with Green Bay, that's another team where you know, they still have a
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good amount of pieces in place, got some you know, holes along the
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roster. I think, all right, I'm interested in seeing what Christian Watson
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does a wide receiver, because he really showed some intriguing flashes on the stretch.
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But the thing with Jordan Love is, you know, he's played,
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he's played a handful of games, but he's only started one from start to
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finish in his entire NFL career. And the way I see it like I
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just started a new job, and the way that I see it is the
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way that you get better at your job is by doing it right. And
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that's why I don't know, I don't have maybe the same confidence that Jordan
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Love is going to step in right away and you know, continue that far.
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Van Rodgers l Aga see, you know, especially after having you know,
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sat on the bench for three years. But we'll see, we'll see.
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I could this could totally come back to bite me, uh and Jordan
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Love could end up ruling the NFC North for another fifteen years and I'm never
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gonna break but all right, I don't know. I think that it's certainly
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possible. I think you could tell me the Bears end up anywhere from first
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to fourth in the NFC North, and realistically, I think there's a you
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know, shot and a realistic argument. Definitely gonna be interesting. Definitely gonna
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be interesting for sure. Well, we are gonna close out our discussion here,
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Jacob with a segment that we unveiled last week, and it's called the
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Standout and stepped on segment. So we're gonna first start off. I'd like
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for you to give me two players you think will be a standout this coming
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season on this Bear's roster. Who are those two individuals and why'd you pick
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them? All? Right, So I'm gonna go with at left guard,
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give me Tevin Jenkins. Oh, okay, I think he's gonna stand out.
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Last year, for my money, he was the best offensive lineman at
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right guard. He's moving to left guard this year because they brought in Nate
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Davis from the Titans, and you know, with that in mind, I
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think he's had a full off season to prepare for the left side. You
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know, he said that right away when they signed Nate Davis, they told
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him, hey, you're gonna be moving to left, you know, the
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left guard, which he was fine with. He's been preparing for and I
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think that if he can stay healthy. That's the big thing with him is
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he's had some injury concerns. But when he's healthy, he's one of the
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bright spots of this team. So I think that gave him a better offensive
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line around him. Give Justin Fields another year to speed up his processing.
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I think Kevin's really gonna shine. And another standout I'm gonna go with,
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I'm gonna go to Jakwan Brisker, the safety. Yeah, so he had
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he had a strong rookie year, especially when Eddie Jackson was healthy. When
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he Eddie Jackson was playing at a Pro Bowl level before I got hurt.
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And I think the presence of Brisker, it's the same thing that the Bears
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had with Amos, you know, back before I left for Green Bay,
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where Brisker's skill set really allows Eddie Jackson to be Eddie Jackson, and like
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it's a thing where Eddie's not I don't think he's like this complete safety where
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he can do literally anything on the defense and he'll he'll be a star.
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He's got he's got a specific role, you know, and that's be a
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ball hawk and go after the ball, you know, be that center fielder
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type and just get after it. And I think that in years, in
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years pass ever since that the one All Pro year he had in twenty eighteen,
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the Bears kind of tried to force him into something he wasn't. And
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now I think the new the new system did a good job of really letting
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he thrive and having someone like Brisker, who can, you know, you
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can play downhill, who can you know, deliver big hits, someone who
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can play in the box, someone who can play in too high and consistently
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hold his own there. I think that's it's beneficial for Eddie, it's beneficial
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for Jaquan. So I think Brisker, it's a matter of the big plays
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with him, but he delivers consistently good play, you know, pretty often.
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So there there are like the bad reps are few, they are pretty
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bad, but there are a lot more good reps and the good reps are
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quite solid. So I think that this year is gonna be big for him.
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Two to be stepped on. Yeah, stepped on. Let's get too
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stepped on. Two players you think are gonna just get stepped on throughout the
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course of the season. Ah. Shoot see, I hate to be I
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hate to be this guy because I don't want to you know, I don't.
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I don't want to knock the guy. But I think eventually you're looking
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at the defensive tackle. I think eventually Andrew Billings. They brought him in
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as a one technique defensive tackle. I think he's gonna start right away.
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He's a good run defender. But how high is the ceiling as a pass
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rusher. It's not very high, right, And you know what you have
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in Billings. He's a solid player, He's a solid run stuffer. He's
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someone you can bring in as like a two down type of guy. But
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I think you look at what the Bears did in the draft. They selected
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Davon Dexter from Florida at d tackle in the second round and then Zach Pickens
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from South Carolina in the third round. That's two new guys that are going
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to be fighting for snaps. And Dexter especially, I think he's gonna be
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Billings main competition at one Tech, and I think eventually Dexter is gonna get
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that starting role so for and I think Billings is gonna play. He's going
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to have a role in the defense regardless, even down the stretch. But
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yeah, early on, I think you'll get more of a role and then
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you know, get phased out a little bit more over time. Okay,
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okay, do you have another one here for us? All right? So
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I got one more. Uh, let's see. I think this one and
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another one that I'm not too like sure about. I'm gonna say. I'll
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say Deontay Foreman. Okay, I'll stay Foreman, which I think that's fair
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given his career, in his injury history and everything he's been through in this
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league. I absolutely think that's fair. But I can also see him absolutely
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killing it this year. But you know, behind this line, I can
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see that happening. Yeah, and it's really tough. I wanted. I
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was thinking about, Okay, which one who in the Bears backfield I'm gonna
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pay because like someone naturally is gonna have to be when you have Khalil Herbert,
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you have Deontay Foreman, you have Roshan Johnson, all competing for carriage,
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and Travis Homer is gonna get special teams apps. You have all those
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guys, you know, fighting for playing time. Someone's gonna end up,
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you know, getting a little bit of a decline in production. I could
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see it being Foreman, just because the one year that he had in Carolina
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last year was really good, especially when Christian McCaffrey left. He was fantastic.
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But it's a matter of Okay, he's the oldest of the bunch.
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You know, he's in a new scheme, he's in a new environment,
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and Khalila Herbert's proven to be extremely efficient. Roshan Johnson's got a very high
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ceiling. Foreman might have admittedly the lowest ceiling of the bunch. Maybe maybe
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not the lowest floor. I don't think he has the lowest floor by any
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means, but I do think that just naturally. I think there's gonna be
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a bit of a backfield split people expecting Foreman to have the same stat line
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he had last year with nearly a thousand rushing yards. I don't think that's
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going to happen again this year. But I don't think that's really gonna be
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all his fault. I think that's just gonna be of what's around him,
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and there's more youth around him, a little bit more burst. So you
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know, it's just an unfortunate circumstance, but it's a good problem to have
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if you're the Bears. It's better to have good players not get enough playing
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time than bad players get too much playing time. Absolutely, absolutely, those
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are four overall great picks and Jacob, I have to say, it was
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great talking to you. Come back join us down the road. I would
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love to have you back on and folks again, Windy City gridiron dot Com.
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I'd love to talk to you again right around times season starts, perhaps
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during the season, come back and join us, my friend. No,
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absolutely yeah, make sure to yeah, hit me up when the season's up
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and rolling, and definitely be down to come on again. Always great talking
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to Jacob and the Chicago Bears. I'm not kidding. I think can actually
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be a really interesting team this year. I mean, you heard Jacob talking
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about what this offense is gonna look like. I mean specifically that running back
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room as he was talking about it towards the end of our discussion there.
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I think the run game is going to be very interesting and again Yes,
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it's all gonna come down to Justin Fields on an offensive perspective, in terms
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of the chemistry is going to have with dj Moore, with all the weapons
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that are on this offense, the weapons that they did get for Justin Fields,
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how is his pocket management going to hold up throughout this season? So
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I cannot wait to see what happens in this division again, a division in
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the NFC North that is very just not going to be predictable. We can't
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aren't gonna be able to predict what is really going to happen. So that
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being said, it was a great Opposition Territory podcast. Again, thank you
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Jacob for coming on. Can't wait to talk to you at some point down
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got a great regular show coming to you that's gonna be dropping this Thursday.
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Take care, we'll catch you next time.