Latest / That Old Trope with Nathaniel Kressen / Listen for When It Echoes
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- 1:28Good morning, Barilopians, and welcome to another that old trope with Nathaniel Cresson.
- 1:33I am your Nathaniel.
- 1:36I'm sitting here looking at a sheet of torn off graph paper from a sketchpad, the same sketchpad that I outlined the painting I talked about a couple episodes ago with the celestial and the human coming together in quite
- 1:52dramatic fashion.
- 1:58Doors open.
- 1:59Doors close here at Shay Peacock.
- 2:01Welcome to the fold.
- 2:03This sheet says, do the thing.
- 2:04Courage comes after.
- 2:06And I think this is an episode about the thing.
- 2:08And before we.
- 2:10Before we really ground into what the thing is, I think we have to ground into what the thing is not.
- 2:16How do we know that the thing we're chasing actually feeds our joy, our calm, our heart, our soul, our brain, our nether regions, all the hungers and appetites that bring us to our closest, most best self and uplift
- 2:32as many others as we can?
- 2:33How do we know it's the thing that we're actually swallowing, that we're actually chasing?
- 2:39How do we know?
- 2:41Well, for me, there are some tells.
- 2:45My body is a speaker box.
- 2:47It echoes to me what is going on.
- 2:50Physical discomfort, physical agony.
- 2:52You know, something going on, something stirring.
- 2:55Right before I started recording this episode, I made space on my little workspace desk here at Shape Peacock.
- 3:02And lo and behold, there's some things.
- 3:07So basically, it's an old desk that belonged to family.
- 3:11So this is passed down.
- 3:12This has echoes of past life.
- 3:16And because I know that I would feel sad if I damaged it unnecessarily, there is a strip, a length of canvas folded up over it that is acting as just a permanent drop cloth.
- 3:30As I put beverages and rocks and, you know, laptops and soundboard and all these things, I make sure that the surface, even though it isn't quite, you know, in great shape, anyways, I'm preserving what it is, and I
- 3:43got my canvas and that helps me breathe easy.
- 3:45I would not necessarily be able to breathe easy at this desk if I had to constantly worry about ruining it.
- 3:51So I created a shapeshift mechanism to bring me close to the thing, which is a desk that is for utility, not just looking nice, but one that I can ground into and be my sloppy.
- 4:03Or I wouldn't say sloppy, but I would say sometimes so in my own thinking, that I don't realize how hard I put things down ism.
- 4:15That kind of thing.
- 4:16I don't like damaging things if I can help it.
- 4:19So I'm creating an infrastructure here to make sure that things remain in a state that I can stand by and feel Proud about and feel happy about and just breathe easy through the day.
- 4:31So in this case, the thing is comfort in which to work and some legacy here.
- 4:39I'm carrying forward years of legacy from family.
- 4:44So it's Monday morning here at Shape Peacock.
- 4:47It is Monday morning and I don't have therapy.
- 4:53I don't have therapy this week because my therapist, who I love is taking some much needed time off, some much deserved time off.
- 5:00And I hope she enjoys it.
- 5:05I have work ahead.
- 5:07I got some clarity on what I can do work wise.
- 5:11So I'm in the sunlight this morning, I am grounding in and I'm sending off a couple nice notes to folks who I've had the great pleasure of bringing into my life recently.
- 5:21And I'm wishing him well, wishing him firepower, and I'm organizing some to do lists for this company, for my art, for all these things.
- 5:35I see a mosquito here, I see a mosquito here, and the question becomes whether to trap and release.
- 5:44Because there's respect for all life here at Shape Peacock.
- 5:50But mosquitoes hate those fuckers and they love me.
- 5:56So what to do with that?
- 6:00So I'm going over my to do list.
- 6:02I'm going over the strategery, the nudging along strategery to build things, to grow things, and knowing that everything that's meant to happen will happen in its own good time.
- 6:14I'm making the strides.
- 6:16All in good time, Nathaniel.
- 6:17All in good time.
- 6:18All in good time.
- 6:20Enjoy this sunshine, enjoy this process, because this really is the dream.
- 6:24This is really it.
- 6:28So I'm savoring the moment.
- 6:31I'm about to get, you know, going.
- 6:32I'm about to get on with my day.
- 6:34And then I'm like, I really want to savor this moment just one fraction more.
- 6:39And I look around, I realize I haven't watered my garden today.
- 6:43I've been pretty consistent with it.
- 6:45I wouldn't say I am the greatest, most intuitive gardener, but I'm learning and I care.
- 6:54And I love it when they speak back to me, when they echo through smells, through little like pats on the head, just, just like how much of an ecosystem it is back here, how much we're all in it
- 7:08together and how much they do rely on me.
- 7:10Because there are these planter beds that are raised up, they're feed troughs in the backyard.
- 7:15They were not always organized like this, but they're organized like this now.
- 7:18And I love the flow that I found with them.
- 7:22They're above ground feed troughs and so they don't draw moisture out of the earth, they rely on me watering them.
- 7:31And this is an older building, there is no hose out back.
- 7:36And so what I do is I take this watering can and I bring it inside, I fill it up and I bring it on back and water bit by bit.
- 7:48And that takes probably about five or six, six or seven rounds, especially in the heat of summer.
- 7:57And there is a.
- 7:58There is a season not so long ago when I was frustrated by this and I didn't do it all the time.
- 8:05And now I see it for what it is, which is a chance to slow down, a chance to savor the moment.
- 8:10A chance to water my garden.
- 8:11A chance to grow something where there was not something growing before.
- 8:18A chance to curate, a chance to build and a chance to breathe, to be outside.
- 8:25I love being outside.
- 8:26I love vegetation.
- 8:28I love the smell of growth.
- 8:31I love the smell of growth.
- 8:32Yes, I do.
- 8:33Yes, I do.
- 8:35As close as anything might be, that might be the thing right there, the smell of growth.
- 8:44I was in this play recently, this reading of a new play that I really liked called where the Fuck Is Dante?
- 8:52By Jason Vinoles.
- 8:54Vinoles.
- 8:57Sorry Jason, if I mangled your last name, but you wrote a good play, brother.
- 9:01It's kind of like a winning for Godot, but centered around two roommates.
- 9:07Two grown ass dudes as roommates who are waiting for their weed dealer.
- 9:12And it centers around the character I played, which is kind of like this perpetual sous chef who can't get advance because he gets his own.
- 9:18Gets in his own way, you know, who knows if he has the chops or not, but he doesn't do himself any favors.
- 9:23He womanizes.
- 9:25He plays the philosopher, the Couchstoner philosopher.
- 9:28Except now he doesn't have any weed and the love of his life is gone.
- 9:33And he won't admit it.
- 9:34He won't admit that he wasn't ready to grow up and face the thing and show the thing.
- 9:38She in a scene played by a friend of mine, Stacy.
- 9:44Stacy and I have the scene where you see them fall apart and it's touching.
- 9:54She says to him, in this play you're always looking over the other side, saying, is the grass greener?
- 10:05But the grass is greener where you water it.
- 10:11And it's funny when this play came up because I'd already recorded a trope that mentioned Dante, you know, Dante's Inferno, going through the circles following Virgil.
- 10:25And this play arose and kind of tapped into something that's been echoing recently for me, which is the roles I get cast in are Telling me things about myself.
- 10:40They're echoing parts of what's inside me that if I wanted to, I could water, I could ground into what.
- 10:49And just to lay the groundwork, these are rather misogynist characters.
- 10:55These are characters that have run the gamut from happy go lucky fuckboys with delusions of grandeur and mommy issues all the way to, you know, Epstein esque characters on Death Row.
- 11:14And to ground in to these roles has been interesting because they're not entirely dissimilar from me.
- 11:27And I'm going to do a proper breakdown of this in a future episode of that old trope.
- 11:32The working title I've been rolling over my head is Good morning, Mr.
- 11:35Misogyny.
- 11:37But these rolls, for the purposes of today's episode, just take them to mean that they reveal to me parts of myself that I really would rather were not there, but that I understand and I know that they are
- 11:52not the totality of me.
- 11:54And it's my choices and my decisions on how to direct my energy, how to move forward, how to treat other people, how to prioritize, how to grow, what to grow, what to water, what not to water.
- 12:08It allows me insight into fully realized versions of the other choice, the other decisions, or at the very least, paint a nuanced portrait of somebody who could be written off.
- 12:24So there are these echoes that have been coming to me through these acting roles, and there are echoes all the time.
- 12:30I'm going to talk a little bit on this subject of echoing these roles and real people too, understanding, really just noticing how people move through the world, how they treat one another, how they decide where to put their
- 12:47energy, what they fixate on, what they talk about, what they hope to grow versus what they complain about.
- 12:55Life is a full spectrum.
- 12:57It is fucking hard.
- 12:59It is a terrible time to.
- 13:03There's never been a more important time or a more terrible time to feel deeply because there's a lot going on in the world that if one wants to, they can feel very negative about.
- 13:12That is not.
- 13:17Is completely understandable.
- 13:19I have been there.
- 13:21I am there too, sometimes.
- 13:23Get it?
- 13:24And at some point, there comes a point in every man's life where he must throw off suffering like an old cloak.
- 13:32There is a time in every man's life when he must throw off suffering like an old cloak.
- 13:41For true paralopians, my thousand true fans, you will recognize that from a past episode, coming from Lust for Life, a fictionalized novelization of Vincent Van Gogh's life that came to me in a very interesting moment in my own.
- 14:02We can water the suffering, easiest thing in the world.
- 14:06We can suffer and suffer and suffer and nobody will stop us from suffering.
- 14:10Because you know what?
- 14:10We don't challenge or change anything.
- 14:12If we're suffering, We can all clap each other on the back and do nothing.
- 14:21We can all do that.
- 14:24That has been a defining pattern, let's just say, since the beginnings of time.
- 14:33Let's point to what's wrong and do nothing about it.
- 14:37Let's rally around change.
- 14:38And then once we take our chosen savior, push him forward to face the entire other army, and go back to whatever the fuck we were doing before.
- 14:49There are echoes of eternity in today.
- 14:54Anything I can point to in terms of how I choose to move through the world has already been done countless times and not done countless more times.
- 15:06The echo I'm giving is voice.
- 15:11I'm giving voice to what feels most inevitable and true to me.
- 15:17Because I do think that maybe we need more truth and vulnerability and sensitivity and autonomy and ownership and walking the walk in the world.
- 15:27That is not to say any illusion of perfection is residing over here, Any illusion of whatever.
- 15:34But I am tuning into what the best life, the most fully realized, truest, elevated, spiritually connected, humanly connected, artistically connected life is for me and just putting it out there.
- 15:50I'm looking at the field, coach.
- 15:53I'm looking at the field and I see a wide open fucking place to run.
- 15:57And that is the what heartfelt Muppet artist dude who fucks.
- 16:05Let me run for the open field, Let me chant to the rafters what it's like the whole time I'm doing it, because why the fuck not?
- 16:13I wanted this peacock life.
- 16:14This is me living it.
- 16:15This is me being rather than becoming.
- 16:18So here I am now.
- 16:22I joke about this.
- 16:24I joke about this plenty.
- 16:26This joke of the trope, that old trope, this entire show built around this middle aged white dude who goes through divorce and PTSD and comes out the other side thinking he has a podcast idea, a artistic, creative vision
- 16:48idea that has the power to change the world.
- 16:53Look at these indicators.
- 16:56Look at this vegetarianism.
- 16:58Look at these dried branches in his apartment.
- 17:01Look at this podcast where he talks about all his own problems and all his own solutions.
- 17:08Listen to him talk about his garden in that time in Macedonia.
- 17:15There's this photo.
- 17:19I don't know if you all know who Danny Elfman is.
- 17:23He is a frequent collaborator.
- 17:25He's a musician and an orchestrator, a composer who frequently works with Tim Burton, did the Simpsons theme song.
- 17:35And I listened to a interview with him on Marc Maron's podcast wtf?
- 17:41When it was still around.
- 17:41One of my favorites.
- 17:43That is a.
- 17:45He was instrumental.
- 17:46Marc Maron was instrumental to me.
- 17:50Understanding how to participate in an interview, to really ask and ground into the questions that elicit meaningful responses, how to frame questions, how to offer of self to get somebody else to offer of themselves.
- 18:09I think he's a really gifted interviewer.
- 18:15And in his conversation with Danny Elfman, something struck me just about the creative spirit and the drive and the thinking, the philosophy of the man that felt true to me, felt echoed to me.
- 18:27And I looked up a picture of him and I was expecting kind of like this Waifish, you know, Tim Burton esque character or something.
- 18:34And he's this Jack dude playing in a rock band with his shirt off, with tons of fucking tattoos and like a post punk haircut and like all this stuff.
- 18:44And I'm like, this is Danny Elfman.
- 18:46And I look at it and the more I look at it, I'm like, oh my God, that's me.
- 18:52That's me in the future.
- 18:54And I said it to my ex and a couple other people, I think, and they didn't see it.
- 19:03They were like, yeah, but the thing is, I'm doing these pull ups and I'm talking about some more tattoos and it's, you know, I'm in a rock band.
- 19:18I'm shaping the gravel honey thing.
- 19:21So, like, it's not that far off.
- 19:26And there was another time, and this was a little bit more intuitive to be seen.
- 19:31But I went to this VRBO so pre Airbnb vacation rentals by owner, and it was in Kingston, I think, and it was this dude who had basically had this long sloping lawn, and it was a building on a
- 19:52larger property.
- 19:53Long sloping lawn with wood sculptures he was making.
- 19:55And he was building a garage while I was there.
- 19:58And there was a tree house he had built with books inside it and a little sawdust outhouse right by a creek, like all this shit.
- 20:06And I'm looking at this, I'm just like, this is me.
- 20:08I don't know how, but like, this is me in like 10, 15 years.
- 20:12And I don't really remember when I went there, but I'm kind of like really on track to being in that exact mode, like very soon.
- 20:21And even if it takes longer than very soon, I'm grounding into that mode.
- 20:26So all of these things, from Jacked Up Danny Elfman to the Sculptor, it's falling into this mode that to me felt inevitable.
- 20:43I knew these parts of me that felt like a true vision of what I wanted life to look like and how I envisioned myself walking through it.
- 20:50And it was these glimpses, it was these echoes of something that immediately felt true and inevitable.
- 20:54And it was surprising to me when others couldn't see the same thing.
- 21:01And unfortunately, I think that is one of the biggest heartbreaks of life, is we are all in it with one another, but entirely alone.
- 21:16Nobody knows what's in my head or heart completely.
- 21:22It's impossible to communicate it.
- 21:25It's impossible to share my full self.
- 21:30And I didn't always know that as a truth.
- 21:32I thought if I couldn't share something with somebody, I felt empty and alone.
- 21:37I felt abandoned.
- 21:40I felt misunderstood, not cared about.
- 21:45And the truth is, is that no matter how much somebody cares about me, they can't live my life for me.
- 21:51It's my responsibility, it's my joy, it's my challenge, it's my opportunity.
- 21:55It's whatever I choose to do it.
- 21:58A dear friend named Bryce.
- 22:00Shout out to Bryce, who was helping out with some Jack Noid paralope stuff.
- 22:05Beautiful human being.
- 22:08Bryce said this thing the other day, and it amounted to, no one is coming to save you.
- 22:19At the same time.
- 22:20No one is coming to stop you.
- 22:25That is a phrase that has been rolling over in my head that my partner and I have rolled over in our heads a few times.
- 22:34Bryce and she finally met each other as of the recording of this a couple days ago.
- 22:39That was beautiful.
- 22:45So knowing that nobody is coming to save me, nobody is coming to stop me, it's on me to live whatever life I want, whatever truest life I can imagine for myself, it's on me.
- 22:56And it's going to be a lot of fucking work.
- 22:59But the work can be joyful.
- 23:01I can savor the moment while I'm watering the garden rather than shaking my fist as to how long it takes, as to how my focus is prevented from doing something else.
- 23:10It's like, water the garden, man, just water the garden.
- 23:16Because you like having a garden.
- 23:18And this is what it takes to have it.
- 23:23So there are experiences that have echoed.
- 23:28There are people I've come across that have echoed for me.
- 23:30There are words and books and in poetry and movie lines and music that all echo.
- 23:41They echo different parts of me that feel true and inevitable and awakened for having felt that connection.
- 23:47There's another episode of Trope where it talks about the role of art, you know, the power of art in connecting to our own humanity, our own experience, by having it echoed from outside.
- 24:04And that's one of the greatest things that art can do is help us feel seen and understood and not alone, even as we are.
- 24:13Our shared experience.
- 24:14Giving voice to our shared experience.
- 24:21Songs come on for me at certain times and it feels quite mystical.
- 24:27You know, it feels like messaging, feels like constant messaging from the universe that help, that does help me tune in.
- 24:32And whether or not it's true, whether or not there's some divine power on a jukebox that's sending me signals, the point is, because I believe there is.
- 24:41But even if you don't want to go all woo woo with me, the point is I feel something when certain songs come on.
- 24:48I hear certain words in those songs that make me feel insight, that help give me insight into something that's already on my mind or in the background of my mind.
- 25:00Something that just like flashes and it's like a spotlight.
- 25:05Be like, here's some insight.
- 25:06Do with it what you want.
- 25:10I take those signals and whenever possible, and it is quite often whenever possible, like walking up the dune and going to the, you know, the road with the plastic bag in hand and ending up on a private beach
- 25:24with calm waters.
- 25:28Things end up working, things end up feeling true.
- 25:34Because at the very least I am taking a first step that feels true, that echoes truth within me and that leads to something else.
- 25:42And when I this is almost like, you know, this can be a thing in its own right.
- 25:49If I take the first true step, it reveals more options.
- 25:53And from those, if I take the truest option out of that, then that opens up to other ones and I can feel what's truest from there.
- 25:59So really it's just a practice, a process of moving forward through the world, moving through decisions and grounding into inner truth that then yields more reward.
- 26:12Because if we're always true, then we're always getting truth back if we choose something that's less than true.
- 26:19And you know, no shame casting here, like we all have responsibilities and competing things and like all that stuff.
- 26:25It's not always possible to be purely self motivated and, you know, self righteous about what truth is, but there are times when it is possible.
- 26:35So let's just focus on those, you know, rather than lamenting that it's not always possible to be perfect or not always possible to do something, let's tune in decision by decision.
- 26:44Maybe some things actually do feel possible if we break it down into bite sized chunks, breath by breath by breath.
- 26:53So this episode's title is Listen for When It Echoes.
- 26:58And this title came to me in a moment.
- 26:59This Morning when I was in my backyard and I had that savor the moment water the garden thing.
- 27:09It was shortly before 9 o' clock here in Brooklyn.
- 27:13I'm getting ready.
- 27:14I'm getting ready to amp up.
- 27:15And, you know, I bring the watering can in, this watering can that is rather kind of rustic brown.
- 27:24Maybe a little bit of rose gold in there, but it's kind of rustic brown.
- 27:27It's plastic, and it's not something I would have bought, but it used to belong to neighbors, dear friends who were neighbors, and it's their leftover watering can.
- 27:47These are not folks who are in my life anymore.
- 27:51I wish them well, I send them love, but they're not in my life anymore.
- 27:57As I went through some of the darkest, hardest days of my life, those friendships that I could have really used were not there.
- 28:09And it hurt.
- 28:13And it's not to say they won't come back when it echoes, true, but I just kind of listened.
- 28:22I listened for who.
- 28:25Who in my life was there when I needed them, When I express something, who heard me versus who focused on something else.
- 28:40And I have this watering can and I use it because there is no spigot out back.
- 28:47There's no spigot out back.
- 28:49So once again, it's like six or seven times inside, outside to water this garden.
- 28:54But I can fix that.
- 28:59Maybe now is the time to put one in.
- 29:01Maybe now is the time to hire a plumber to run it.
- 29:03I know how it would be run, and it will take money that I probably, you know, don't need to spend on that, but it will help me water my garden and it will make me joyful, or at the
- 29:16very least, I can buy a fucking watering can that's my own.
- 29:20That feels true to Shea Peacock.
- 29:27There are any number of things that are possible if I just decide to figure them out and take the steps to accomplish them.
- 29:41That is a very daunting and scary admission that my life is mine to cultivate, and my life is mine to cultivate, and yours is too.
- 30:02My partner asked me the other day what I would change about shape Peacock if I could, what would I change visually?
- 30:10And the beautiful thing is that this has been a place that echoes the personal growth and the self actualization, self acceptance and unbridled creativity.
- 30:24You know, got a giant peacock mural, a color wheel thing, dried branches, instruments, paintings.
- 30:32You know, it's a vibe.
- 30:36What would I change?
- 30:37And really, I came down to a couple things.
- 30:41There's some lighting fixtures that are missing right now.
- 30:44And I have a vision for what they will be when I come across them.
- 30:48And I would like a better bathroom door.
- 30:50I was working on one, but don't have access to that door anymore.
- 30:54So I need to get another door when it's right for me.
- 30:57And the Spigot Outback.
- 30:58The Spigot Outback would be nice, But it feels like the inevitable realization of what echoes true to end up here in such a place.
- 31:12It feels so obvious to me, and it's not obvious to anybody else, but it's obvious to me.
- 31:18I followed the truth and decision by decision, you know, like it's coming together in the silly, weird way that it does.
- 31:28Great.
- 31:29It's mine to enjoy.
- 31:30Great.
- 31:33So I bring this watering can inside to my kitchen and put it in the sink.
- 31:42And as it's filling up, I get down the ground and I do a forearm plank.
- 31:49And this is not just because I want to, you know, feel good in my body and feel fit and stuff.
- 31:54I also got some lower back stuff going on.
- 31:55And this is now practice I'm employing.
- 31:58I want to feel better.
- 31:59I got to take the steps to feel better.
- 32:01I can't just lament the fact that my back hurts.
- 32:03That does nobody any good.
- 32:07So I'm on the ground, I'm doing this plank, and it sounds like it's starting to fill up.
- 32:11So I get up and it turns out, oh, it's only half full and it's filling up, and I'm like, huh, I misjudged it.
- 32:19And rather than be like, okay, well, let me get back down and then back up when it starts overflowing and stuff, I'm like, well, let me just observe and let me listen for when it sounds like it's almost
- 32:32full.
- 32:32So I know.
- 32:33So next time when I bring this back and fill it up for the second time, I can get down on the floor and do a plank, you know, for the full length of time.
- 32:40I don't have to cut it short.
- 32:42I'm listening and listening and listening.
- 32:44And then it starts echoing.
- 32:50It starts echoing when it's close because it's filled up enough that the splash of the water is echoing across the insides of the top lid, the inside lid of this watering can.
- 33:07I stop the thing and I, you know, plug the little spout with my thumb and I'm carrying it back with little splish splashes.
- 33:15It's okay.
- 33:16It's my place.
- 33:17I'm okay with some splish splashes.
- 33:18On the way back, I'm carrying it outside.
- 33:22The church bells start going just as I'm thinking the Phrase, listen for when it echoes.
- 33:28It's when it echoes.
- 33:33And if you listen in the background right now, church bells were earlier, but there's somebody backing up some van or something.
- 33:40There's traffic, there's Pan American Airlines flying abovehead.
- 33:47There's the hiss of this space.
- 33:50There's little things with my mics that I would improve.
- 33:53But bottom line, my words are reaching you with all this surrounding context and all these sounds.
- 34:01We're together.
- 34:03It's alright, it's okay if it isn't perfect.
- 34:14There's something beautiful and just noticing how much good there is.
- 34:23Understanding that there's a lot of hard, of course, but truly grounding in like there's a lot of good.
- 34:37The things that are most difficult to feel gratitude for are the ones that don't feel true.
- 34:43That we are forcing the compromises and the begrudging acceptances and agreements.
- 34:54The things where we feel beyond capacity, where we feel misunderstood or unseen.
- 35:00That's when it really gets hard.
- 35:03That's when it really gets hard to accept life and feel grateful for it is when we aren't living true life.
- 35:17I couldn't have imagined being here a year ago, month ago, shit, a couple days ago, some things were dawning on me that helped land me right here.
- 35:34And I keep deepening my understanding of where I want to be based on what feels inevitable and true.
- 35:42I just take it one step at a time, one breath at a time, and acknowledge that I don't have answers for some things and action isn't always needed on everything that I feel discomfort or dissatisfaction with.
- 35:55Some things just kind of suck.
- 35:58And that's okay.
- 35:59It's not mine to fix.
- 36:00I can't fix it.
- 36:02Fuck it.
- 36:04This shirt I have that I wore yesterday and the day before called Never Worried, Never Hurried, and it has a picture of a brontosaurus kind of taking a hot bath as the asteroids fall all down around him.
- 36:21It felt good to wear that shirt and tear open the neck a little bit because I was feeling constrained.
- 36:30So, Paralopians.
- 36:31I want you to do something.
- 36:34You have three options.
- 36:36Because I'm not a fan of prescriptive content, you have three options.
- 36:41One, you can close your eyes and breathe for 60 seconds and think about something that either exists now or might exist by taking some step that you feel grateful for, something that will bring you joy.
- 37:02Two, you can listen for a moment to this hum in the background and write in the comments of this episode what the heck you think is happening.
- 37:13Because it just started and I'm curious.
- 37:16Here we go.
- 37:26If it is a spaceship rising up from underneath this place and this episode reaches you, it means I'm dispatching from Mars 3.
- 37:39You can listen for the music around you and see if something catches you in a true way.
- 37:53That's all.
- 37:54That's homework.
- 37:55I got my Calvin and Hobbes to read, so I'll let you know how things turn out.
- 38:11Sa.