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#432 - Rapsody · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Yo yo, what's up?
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Speaker 2: This is Rap City and check me out on the
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Speaker 2: Bootleg cav podcast.
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Speaker 3: Boutlet Cap show Man special guests in here one of
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Speaker 3: the greatest MC's on the planet, Rhapsody.
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Speaker 1: What's up, brother man?
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Speaker 3: I see you.
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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be back.
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Speaker 3: May seventeen, were finally getting your album?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, four and a half years.
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Speaker 3: It's it's been it's been four and a half years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty nineteen was my last album.
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Speaker 3: And then The L's Wisdom was what twenty seventeen. Yep,
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Speaker 3: that was a Grammy album. Yeah, who were you nominated
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Speaker 3: against that year? Because I remember thinking specifically like jay
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Speaker 3: Z four four.
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Speaker 2: Four, Kendrick dam Tyler to creator flower.
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Speaker 3: Boy, that was a good year.
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Speaker 1: There's one more I'm forgetting.
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Speaker 3: That was a good year. Yeah, we ended up winning. Damn.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kendrick took that. I am never mad.
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Speaker 3: You're in a very particular best dance. With everything going
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Speaker 3: on in the world of hip.
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Speaker 1: Hop, it's exciting right now.
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Speaker 3: It is, and I you know, obviously there's been some
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Speaker 3: I'm like extra unnecessary noise.
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Speaker 1: And I was just having that conversation.
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Speaker 2: It's a lot of noise right now and inserting into
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Speaker 2: a moment that's.
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Speaker 1: Like special and making it corny now, Like.
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Speaker 3: Right, I feel like it's gotten really corny this past week.
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Speaker 1: Let the main event be the main event, please.
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Speaker 3: I agree. But it's interesting because I always like, even
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Speaker 3: like rewinding a few weeks, you've worked with Cole and
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Speaker 3: you obviously have worked with Kendrick a bunch. You're you know,
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Speaker 3: like I remember talking to Punch about this at the
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Speaker 3: iHeart Awards. I saw him backstage and I was like,
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Speaker 3: this was before my delete later came out, okay, and
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Speaker 3: I was like Dreamville Fest was coming that weekend, and
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Speaker 3: I was like, this feels really weird because like we're
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Speaker 3: everyone's friends with each other, like TD and Dreamville are
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Speaker 3: like this, like all the fans are kind of like innerwoven,
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Speaker 3: like you know, Schoolboy Q and Scissors on dream bill Fest,
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Speaker 3: like Kendrick and Cole are friends. But it felt great.
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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, like, how did you feel when you
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Speaker 3: first heard everything? Being like somebody who's worked with both people,
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Speaker 3: and like, you know, a lot of people discovered you
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Speaker 3: from working with Kendrick. You're obviously on the Bemper Butterfly,
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Speaker 3: Like what was what was your thoughts?
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Speaker 2: I was excited. I mean, I thought, this is hip hop.
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Speaker 2: It was built on competition. Yes, so let's compete. It's
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Speaker 2: just words. It's just words, you know, if it comes
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Speaker 2: anything out of that. But I think this is really
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Speaker 2: in the spirit of hip hop, and it's like, okay, I.
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Speaker 1: Respects I equated to basketball.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: I was having a conversation with my nephew right, he
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Speaker 2: was texting me about it. I said, look, man, when
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Speaker 2: you play your homie one on one on the court,
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Speaker 2: are you are you trying to look out for him
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Speaker 2: because you're a homie. No, you're trying to beat that ass.
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Speaker 2: And afterwards, y'all wap it up and be like good game.
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Speaker 2: You either run it back or take your l and
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Speaker 2: go home. So that's just how I looked at it.
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, hip hop is exciting, it's a sport. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: we need it for the culture. So you know, I
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Speaker 2: just looked at it as like made the best man win.
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Speaker 3: What were your thoughts when you saw Cole retract his
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Speaker 3: his you know, statements and apology. I just wonder because
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Speaker 3: I actually kind of like, there's no way he actually thought,
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Speaker 3: like to Pinper, Butterfly wasn't amazing, Like I was like,
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Speaker 3: he don't even believe what he says, like this is
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Speaker 3: one of the greatest of hours of all time. But
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Speaker 3: when he apologized, I was like, you know what, like
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Speaker 3: I understood where he was coming from because he's been
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Speaker 3: moving a certain way for so long, you know, But
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Speaker 3: what were your thoughts.
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Speaker 1: I try not to speak on these things the whole
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Speaker 1: month thoughts myself. I mean, but a he's a man.
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Speaker 1: He made his decision. He made his decision.
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Speaker 2: But I'm if I'm just speaking from me, if I'm
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Speaker 2: in that position, I love this the spirit of what
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Speaker 2: this is and the sport of it, and if it's me,
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Speaker 2: I'm going homie and not like let's go like, you know,
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Speaker 2: he approached it how he approached it.
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Speaker 3: Did you It wasn't funny to you to like hear
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Speaker 3: people like all of a sudden like you're on to
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Speaker 3: Pinper Butterfly, which is like, in my opinion, it's.
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Speaker 1: One of the greatest albums ever.
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Speaker 3: I actually think it's Kendrick's best album.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's one of my favorite of all time. Even
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Speaker 2: taking me off of it, I.
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Speaker 3: Feel and it aged in a way that not a
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Speaker 3: lot of albums of age, like a lot of people
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Speaker 3: like during like the BLM protests and stuff like, started
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Speaker 3: to revisit that and we're like, damn. Kendrick was like
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Speaker 3: kind of talking about a lot of the shit that's
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Speaker 3: happening right now, you know, But it was just funny
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Speaker 3: to see like the album trending. And then Punch tweeted
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Speaker 3: I thought the Tipper Butterfly was actually a pretty good album.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I thought about that when when Cole made
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Speaker 1: his apology, and when he did it, I was like,
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Speaker 1: I would never approach it when at his discography, but
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Speaker 1: at the art of Wars, it's just wars war, so
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: But it's it's funny to see the landscape of sheep
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Speaker 2: to me, right, and it's like, okay, because we're in
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Speaker 2: this battle and he says it's not good that everybody
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Speaker 2: like we don't think.
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Speaker 1: It's that good.
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Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here. Like granted there's some
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Speaker 2: people that they generally don't like it. That's okay, that's
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Speaker 2: fine everything not everybody, but like, it's one of the
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Speaker 2: greatest albums of all times.
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Speaker 3: I think if you're gonna say anything like to me,
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Speaker 3: Kendrick's got a flawless discography, it'd be like dis an
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Speaker 3: Outcasts discography.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely got one of the uns.
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Speaker 3: That's something you gotta to leave him alone on that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: To me, it's like, that's why I'm really interested, because
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Drake, I'm not sure what else you got
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Speaker 3: besides m being short and maybe he had an unfavorable
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Speaker 3: deal TV back in the day. Because outside of that,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's gotten corny. Though the AI
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Speaker 3: shit was super corny. I thought that shit was lame
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Speaker 3: as fuck, and then Kanye doing this interview and I'm
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Speaker 3: just like, like you said, we're here for the main event,
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Speaker 3: like all the side characters. I want to like, I'm
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Speaker 3: waiting for this bomb to drop that Kendrick's cooking, and
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Speaker 3: I'm tired of people acting like we didn't have to
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Speaker 3: wait twenty nine days for Drake to reply.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is the social media. Everybody thinks
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Speaker 2: that you have to move at their page. Like if
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Speaker 2: we told about the spirited hip hop I was. I
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Speaker 2: was thinking of back when NAS and j were in
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Speaker 2: battle and Jay put out Takeover or September eleventh, on
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Speaker 2: two thousand and one. Na's responding on December fourth, his birthday,
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Speaker 2: like three months later. Three months later, so you know,
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Speaker 2: and I we know Kendrick. He's intentional about everything, so
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Speaker 2: you know, I love that he's always continuing to do
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Speaker 2: him and moving at the pace he has, Like let
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Speaker 2: the noise die down if anything, please.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we waited twenty nine days for Drake to reply.
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Speaker 3: Just again, twenty nine days. But with that being said,
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Speaker 3: it is the most excited. Yeah, I'm just excited because
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Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, one day, like I just want I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna wake up, and Kendrick's because I know he's about
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Speaker 3: to come crazy.
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Speaker 1: It's exciting. I'm just it's exciting.
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Speaker 3: And then Quavo and Chris Brown are going at you
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Speaker 3: that she's getting a little ugly, but it's just a lot.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like people are seeing how good
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Speaker 3: it is for business to beef kind of, and they're
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Speaker 3: all trying to get their little Like.
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Speaker 1: Kat Williams said it all, didn't he He.
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Speaker 3: Set it off. He kicked the year off with the
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Speaker 3: craziest interview ever, and people just been moving like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's getting weird out here.
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Speaker 3: It's pretty crazy. Talk to me about why it's taken
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Speaker 3: you four and a half years to drop a new
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Speaker 3: body of work.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a lot to say, and it took
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Speaker 2: me about four years to get it all out. I
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Speaker 2: was told, you don't stop recording until you don't have
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Speaker 2: anything else to say. So I allow myself the grace
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Speaker 2: and the time to grow in that period, to heal,
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Speaker 2: in that period, to learn, and you know, to really
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Speaker 2: figure out all of what I wanted to say and
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Speaker 2: then what I wanted to share with the world.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it, I think too, Like sometimes people
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Speaker 3: will put out music just because they feel like they
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Speaker 3: have to or just for the sake of putting out music,
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Speaker 3: but there's not intention behind it. No, And usually that's
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Speaker 3: when we get like this microwavable music that people don't
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Speaker 3: live with, that doesn't age.
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Speaker 2: It's there for the moment, and which is okay if
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Speaker 2: that's what you want to do.
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Speaker 1: I'm just not that type of artist, right, you know.
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Speaker 2: I want to put out things that will stand and
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Speaker 2: test the time, that'll be a blueprint for people to
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Speaker 2: look back to, that will be a soundtrack for this
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Speaker 2: life and the next.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: So what was your like, where did you draw the
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Speaker 3: most inspiration for this body of work?
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Speaker 1: Musically?
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Speaker 2: Lauryn Hill's Unplugged The honesty, the wrongness of the best
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Speaker 2: unplugs ever.
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Speaker 1: That you ain't never lied bro a day of your life.
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Speaker 2: So that was a big inspiration, probably the biggest, honestly.
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Speaker 2: That's that's where I really poured from the most. During
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, I would drive to New York six seven
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Speaker 2: times and just play that album over and over again.
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Speaker 2: Other than that, it was just like things I would read.
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Speaker 2: Untamed by Glennon Dole was a book that I read,
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Speaker 2: James Allen twenty one books. It just it just really
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Speaker 2: allowed me to give myself permission to be human, right,
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Speaker 2: and that's what fed everything else.
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Speaker 3: Do you feel like because I always when when you're
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Speaker 3: brought up, you're always brought up as like one of
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Speaker 3: the elite MC's period, like, regardless of gender. But since
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, since twenty twenty, you know, there has been
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Speaker 3: like a huge you know, I feel like we used
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Speaker 3: to have these female MC conversations and it's now just
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Speaker 3: turned into like ladies are kind of running hip hop now.
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Speaker 3: In my opinion, they're I mean, all the big hit
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Speaker 3: records are yeah, women, They're only the only women who
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Speaker 3: are making like I feel like the women are actually
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Speaker 3: putting effort into quote unquote records. Yep, you know, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like now like it's it's been I mean,
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Speaker 3: the last time I remember it being like this female
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Speaker 3: dominated or at least so many options out there was
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Speaker 3: like when it was Eve the Brad, Little King, Foxy Brown, like,
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Speaker 3: but it's I feel like it's even bigger than that now. No. Yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 3: Like do you feel like we're kind of like in
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Speaker 3: the middle of like a special moment when it terms
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Speaker 3: to just females running hip hop?
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Speaker 1: I do. I do running it in this way. I
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Speaker 1: don't think we've I.
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Speaker 3: Don't think it's ever happened. No, because even back then
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Speaker 3: there was jay Z, there was no there was death Row,
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Speaker 3: there was all.
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Speaker 2: That at the same time, and and two it was
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Speaker 2: uh yeah, this is just.
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Speaker 3: Different and everyone's got their own thing, Like it's it
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Speaker 3: feels good and you know, for the most part, everyone's
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Speaker 3: working together for.
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Speaker 2: The most part, Yeah, which is exciting, and I think
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Speaker 2: it helps the moment, right, and it's needed. The woman's voice,
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Speaker 2: her perspective is needed. I love to see in the
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Speaker 2: mainstream a lot more harmony. But it's it's exciting, you know,
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Speaker 2: for sure.
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Speaker 3: You obviously got Erica and I heard the record on
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Speaker 3: the way over here. Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, she's she's out here.
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Speaker 3: She got her own weeds train now to.
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Speaker 2: Yep cookies that and she's got her own perfume that
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Speaker 2: I think she does. I didn't know about the.
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Speaker 3: I want to say it's a candle or about she's
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Speaker 3: got something that.
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Speaker 1: I gotta. I got a box at the house. It
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Speaker 1: smells amazing, It smells amazing good.
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Speaker 3: I was like, damn, was that something that you said
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Speaker 3: to her? Did you guys actually get in?
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Speaker 1: How did I get that?
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Speaker 2: She gave it to me as a gift for performing
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Speaker 2: at her birthday bash fire?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have two boxes.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm about the record.
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Speaker 1: I thought we were still the record. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was in Dallas, Texas working with s one and
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Speaker 2: I did uh. I did two verses. The second verse
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Speaker 2: was different than what we have now. But at the
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Speaker 2: end I left the hook open because I knew I
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Speaker 2: wanted a singer.
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Speaker 1: And he was like, yo, who you here? Rap? I said,
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Speaker 1: I only hear bad I'm in Dallas.
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Speaker 2: So he reached out because I didn't have a contact
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Speaker 2: at the time, and she said yes, and you know,
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Speaker 2: we continue to work on it. For about eight more months,
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Speaker 2: but it was a beautiful time. We never got in
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Speaker 2: the studio together, but you know.
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Speaker 1: We text.
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Speaker 2: She facetimed me and seeing melodies for the hook, she
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Speaker 2: shared lyrics with me, and it was just a beautiful
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Speaker 2: process of eating a record and building a friendship. Like
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Speaker 2: one of the most gifted artists we've ever seen. Creative
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Speaker 2: style icon but her heart is beautiful, like amazing.
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Speaker 3: Who all do you have doing production on the album?
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Speaker 2: We have s one who also serves as an executive
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Speaker 2: producer Black Odyssey. They also serve as an executive producer
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Speaker 2: Major seven out of Atlanta.
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Speaker 3: By the way, people who don't know, there's a guy,
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Speaker 3: there's a guy in Black Odyssey, not black, Yes, Alejandro Rico. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I interviewed that, and I was like, what's it like
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Speaker 3: being a not black guy in Black Well, because technically
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Speaker 3: Black Odyssey lead, you know the crew, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, we accept him in our delegation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were amazing to work with. Eric g
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Speaker 2: of the Soul Council soundtrack of the Soul Council hit boy.
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Speaker 1: Let me make sure I'm not forgetting anybody. No ninth
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Speaker 1: beats not on this one.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we did about two songs. One I had
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Speaker 2: uh with Mary but I wanted to work on it more.
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Speaker 3: And six Mary Mary J Yeah, yeah, yeah, you left
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Speaker 3: the Marry J. Blain's record off the album.
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Speaker 1: We both wanted to work on it more crazy, you
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Speaker 1: know we put that out. We wanted to feel right
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Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, I love Mary. Oh.
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Speaker 3: I feel like anyone who works with hit boy these
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Speaker 3: days ends up doing the whole album with him, would you.
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we talked about it. I would say
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Speaker 3: that'd be crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when Astroids drop, we talked about it. I told
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Speaker 2: him I would love to. He said the same, So
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Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes, you know time, but I
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Speaker 2: would love to.
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Speaker 3: I just got to thank him for getting NAS in place. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think we've gotten six albums three three Magics, three
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Speaker 3: Kings Diseases, And then I also think if it weren't
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Speaker 3: for those six albums, we wouldn't be getting this premiere
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Speaker 3: NAS album that we're getting on, which is what produced
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Speaker 3: we've wanted for fucking twenty fucking years years.
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Speaker 1: Everything has this time.
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Speaker 3: I know when I heard that the song just dropped
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Speaker 3: last Friday, and then at the end they're like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: and the albums I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god, Yo, everybody was excited. Is
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Speaker 1: hip hop is exciting this year?
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Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 2: It's just it feels the energy feels good. It does
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Speaker 2: like a different good for sure.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: I feel like it's like the most. I feel like
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Speaker 3: last year was kind of like a down year energy
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Speaker 3: wise for rap. This year, I feel like it's like
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Speaker 3: because there was like a people questioning, Like I saw
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Speaker 3: a Carl post something about like the same people who
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Speaker 3: were saying that hip hop was dying last year need
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Speaker 3: to give make sure that people know it's alive and
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Speaker 3: well and running the charts this year.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it.
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Speaker 3: Honey, going nowhere, I'm curious. You're such a hip hop head.
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Speaker 3: What are your like if you were to go to
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Speaker 3: an island then you can only take like three or
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Speaker 3: four albums with you. What are the albums you're taking
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Speaker 3: that are hip hop?
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Speaker 1: Strictly Reasonable Doubt by Jay Z to Butterfly by Kendrick
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Speaker 1: more strictly hip hop?
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Speaker 2: The Score by the fujis yes, ooh.
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Speaker 1: And it Illmatic Happy thirty years thirty years Age is
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Speaker 1: like fine one absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great four. I think Reasonable that was
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Speaker 3: Jayz's best album. I'll stand by that forever.
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Speaker 2: I go back and forth between it's the top three, Blueprint,
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Speaker 2: Black and Reasonable, depending on the.
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Speaker 1: Day I'll give you.
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Speaker 3: Those are my three.
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Speaker 1: Those are the three, and I interchange them.
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Speaker 3: Like to me, it's like reasonable Doubt is like so
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Speaker 3: fucking crazy, like friend or foe, like yeah.
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Speaker 1: In my life. No, that's the feeling.
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Speaker 3: Feeling it, Oh yeah, feeling it, fucking.
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Speaker 1: Cap with Biggie the Evils.
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Speaker 3: Yes, the Evils is crazy with the Snoop samples. Reasonable
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Speaker 3: doubts the one for me.
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Speaker 1: But twenty two tools, Oh my god, it's.
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Speaker 3: He the Blueprint or Black albums. Then you know what
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Speaker 3: I saw. I hated Old the hov though. To me,
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Speaker 3: the Black or the Blue Blueprint has one song that
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Speaker 3: I can I skip. It's O Lajo Vito. I can't,
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Speaker 3: I can't. I just can't do it. It's the Brave
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Speaker 3: Heart Party of that album. Do you remember Brave Heart
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Speaker 3: Party on Stematic? Oh so Stillmatic was a perfect album,
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Speaker 3: but there was a song called Brave Heart Party with
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Speaker 3: Mary J. Blige, and it's one of the worst rap
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Speaker 3: songs ever created. It's so bad that when they reissued
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Speaker 3: the album they took it off.
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Speaker 1: I feel like you always give me a moment where
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Speaker 1: I'm like.
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Speaker 3: No, NAS knows, it's terrible. Listen, if you were to
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Speaker 3: go to the store right now and buy like a
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Speaker 3: stealmatic that's been pressed in the last fifteen years, Brave
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Speaker 3: Heart Party is not on. Do you remember when jay
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Speaker 3: Z did the Blueprint two point one?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and because the Blueprint too had some shit on it,
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Speaker 4: but it also had some shit on it so much
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Speaker 4: so that they were like, let's do the blue point
16:50
Speaker 4: two point one and just put all the good shit
16:52
Speaker 4: on one album.
16:53
Speaker 3: That's what NAS had to do with Brave Heart Party.
16:55
Speaker 3: He knows it's a bad song.
16:56
Speaker 1: I love you so much.
17:01
Speaker 3: Whenever I interviewed Nows, I specifically want to bring that up, Like, hey,
17:03
Speaker 3: so who I mean interviewed him when I was like
17:08
Speaker 3: fucking nineteen and I brought him a box of ship
17:11
Speaker 3: to autograph.
17:12
Speaker 1: Was that one of them?
17:13
Speaker 4: Yeah?
17:14
Speaker 1: Fire, that's fire?
17:15
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I brought him like I was like I
17:17
Speaker 5: saw that and I was like, oh, bottom stuff.
17:19
Speaker 3: And I was like, hey, dude, like if you could
17:21
Speaker 3: interview all the sign all this ship, it'd be great.
17:25
Speaker 3: If you don't want to, I get it, but this
17:27
Speaker 3: is like the biggest moment of my life.
17:29
Speaker 1: That's love.
17:30
Speaker 3: You signed it all. I asked him what happened? Do
17:33
Speaker 3: you know what my main question was because I only
17:34
Speaker 3: got the interview like ten minutes, but it was like Yo,
17:36
Speaker 3: Win's Lost Tapes two coming.
17:37
Speaker 1: Out and Lost Tapes was a.
17:40
Speaker 3: Joint, probably my third favorite NAS album.
17:44
Speaker 1: Up there, It's up there.
17:45
Speaker 3: Then Lost Tapes two came and it was I should
17:48
Speaker 3: have stood, stayed, lost shouts and nots. Anyway, who else
17:55
Speaker 3: is on this album?
17:57
Speaker 1: Okay?
17:58
Speaker 2: We talked about Eric Abad have Little Wayne, Oh yeah,
18:02
Speaker 2: Nico brim alex Issley Dixon, Baby Tape, and Banaving hold on.
18:12
Speaker 2: Let me make sure I'm not forgetting anybody.
18:16
Speaker 1: I think I think?
18:17
Speaker 2: I said, Oh, kez Namdi Knew an artist from Jamaica, bb.
18:22
Speaker 1: Fire, That's it. I got everybody Wayne.
18:28
Speaker 2: So I've always been a fan since I was thirteen
18:30
Speaker 2: during the pandemic. I've been working with bel Air here
18:33
Speaker 2: and there.
18:35
Speaker 1: But you know the Bomboo.
18:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Brett the guy, Yeah that's Brett good good folk.
18:43
Speaker 2: But I think Maine or Brett one of them told
18:46
Speaker 2: me that uh Wayne wanted me to do a song
18:49
Speaker 2: for Bomboo at the time, and it never materialized, but
18:53
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, he's tapped in. So when we
18:56
Speaker 2: started doing the record and I knew I wanted to
18:58
Speaker 2: do it with him, I I've been talking to Mac
19:01
Speaker 2: for a little bit, so I just hit Mac.
19:03
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, I got this record.
19:04
Speaker 2: I want to see h Wayne, see if he'll get
19:06
Speaker 2: on it.
19:07
Speaker 1: He connected us. Uh, you know, we were texting, playing
19:11
Speaker 1: the record, send him the record. He did it in
19:13
Speaker 1: like a week.
19:14
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, like fast like so I appreciate his
19:17
Speaker 2: grace and just extending his services.
19:19
Speaker 1: But that was it, you know. And I would tap
19:21
Speaker 1: in every now and again just to check in. Happy
19:23
Speaker 1: Father's Day.
19:23
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, he's been a god send. He made
19:29
Speaker 2: the business easy song.
19:31
Speaker 3: I feel like we underappreciate Little Wayne somehow, now we do.
19:34
Speaker 1: He's he's one and two.
19:38
Speaker 3: He's one of your one or two.
19:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's Jay, but he like right there.
19:42
Speaker 3: I got him liking around nine. I mean my top
19:45
Speaker 3: ten is very like it's like super fucking I got
19:48
Speaker 3: ghost face above a little wad like I'm not I know,
19:51
Speaker 3: I got like a super like. I always say, like
19:55
Speaker 3: Kendrick's top five all time because if we if people
20:00
Speaker 3: put Biggie in their top one or two off of
20:03
Speaker 3: two albums. Oh yeah, you have to put Kendrick in
20:07
Speaker 3: your top five off of his discography because his discography is.
20:11
Speaker 5: Albums, EPs, impact, mixtapes, all of it. Yeah, and then
20:17
Speaker 5: like one and two is to me, it's Jay and
20:19
Speaker 5: and NAS and then I could just like swap shit around.
20:23
Speaker 5: It just becomes after like one and two are the
20:25
Speaker 5: only two that like don't move for me. Ever, it's
20:26
Speaker 5: jay Z, it'sn and it is how you feelings.
20:29
Speaker 3: However, I'm feeling it for the day. You know, Kendrick's
20:32
Speaker 3: up there. I say, if Drake comes away from this
20:34
Speaker 3: whole thing on top mm hmm. I finally gotta stop
20:40
Speaker 3: hating on Drake if he can come out of now.
20:45
Speaker 3: I thought the AI thing was one of the corniest
20:48
Speaker 3: things I've ever seen a rapper do in my entire life.
20:50
Speaker 3: You did, I thought it was terrible because I'm sure
20:53
Speaker 3: Snoop didn't go sign that fucking using Tupac's voice. Come
20:55
Speaker 3: on anyway, Nonetheless, if he can come out from every
21:00
Speaker 3: you want diss in it the weekend the biggest artist
21:05
Speaker 3: in the world on Spotify number If you look at
21:09
Speaker 3: the ranking of the Weekend is number one. You got
21:12
Speaker 3: the Weekend dissing you, bro, if you got the twenty
21:15
Speaker 3: verse one. He posted that ship with a kill bill
21:19
Speaker 3: and he comes out on top. I gotta, I just gotta.
21:25
Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but he might be up there, bro,
21:27
Speaker 3: he might be.
21:27
Speaker 1: The I mean, the boy can rap. That's what makes
21:29
Speaker 1: this so exciting.
21:30
Speaker 3: He can wrap his ass off. And he's the biggest,
21:34
Speaker 3: probably the biggest rapper ever commercially successful. Yeah, especially for
21:40
Speaker 3: the run. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, like Wayne had
21:44
Speaker 3: like that three year run that was fucking crazy. Like uh,
21:47
Speaker 3: Eminem had like h what probably five or six years
21:49
Speaker 3: where he was like the biggest shit ever. But Drake's like,
21:52
Speaker 3: oh nine to now, never seen it. With that being said, he.
21:57
Speaker 1: Sings too, though, So he sings too. That's good.
22:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, it helps, it helps, It help does help. I
22:04
Speaker 3: ain't fucking singing, jay Z ain't singing, thank god, I
22:09
Speaker 3: ain't need but I need Drake to give me a
22:14
Speaker 3: rewind or a fucking meet the parents, or I need
22:18
Speaker 3: something like that. We ain't got one of those. But
22:20
Speaker 3: if it comes out on top, I don't listen to me.
22:23
Speaker 3: Kendrick Mars Indeed, the boogie man. I think, I think
22:27
Speaker 3: I just can't wait man shots at k dot. I'm
22:29
Speaker 3: super biased in this whole thing.
22:31
Speaker 1: So likewise, but it is what it is. I mean,
22:34
Speaker 1: I know the calib of human we talk when.
22:36
Speaker 3: You So when you got nominated for like hip Hop
22:40
Speaker 3: Album of the Year, that was a big deal and
22:43
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like that kind of kicked off
22:46
Speaker 3: like a wave of the Grammy is at least semi
22:49
Speaker 3: getting some of the nominees, right, you know, a few
22:53
Speaker 3: years later, I know pusha T got nominated and Royster
22:56
Speaker 3: five nine got nominated. Actually think it was the next year.
22:59
Speaker 1: The process was different, right, That was a.
23:02
Speaker 3: Year after Right, it was twenty eighteen because Daytona came
23:04
Speaker 3: out on twenty eighteen.
23:05
Speaker 2: So there was a time when the Grammys were trying
23:09
Speaker 2: to get it right, especially for hip hop. So they
23:11
Speaker 2: created these committees for all genres. And the way the
23:14
Speaker 2: Grammys works is you have to be a member of
23:17
Speaker 2: the voting committee, which means you have to be nominated
23:20
Speaker 2: and have one pasi bla. Everybody, no matter what genre
23:25
Speaker 2: you and everybody who's in the voting committee gets to vote.
23:29
Speaker 1: Right.
23:30
Speaker 2: So a lot of times if you're a country artist
23:32
Speaker 2: and maybe you're not really into.
23:33
Speaker 1: Hip hop, it's gonna vote name recognition.
23:35
Speaker 2: Right, So to balance that out, they created these committees
23:40
Speaker 2: of trusted individuals from each genre and that culture. Country
23:43
Speaker 2: had theirs, pop had, there's R and B. Hip hop
23:45
Speaker 2: had it's trusted committee, and you would get the top whatever,
23:52
Speaker 2: and you would go through the list and if you
23:53
Speaker 2: felt like there was somebody that needed to be in
23:55
Speaker 2: there that wasn't represented, you got to go through a
23:58
Speaker 2: process of listening to that record to get it, going
24:01
Speaker 2: through it, and voting it in because you were of
24:05
Speaker 2: the community. So that's how you get a Voice to
24:07
Speaker 2: five non nomina NATed, That's how you get a nipsy
24:10
Speaker 2: nominaefraidh exactly. That was the balance in the checks and
24:14
Speaker 2: balance the system to make sure this is not just
24:16
Speaker 2: a popularity contest that hip hop.
24:18
Speaker 3: That makes sense why I'm saying, I mean shot to
24:20
Speaker 3: my boy macl my Love, but that would make sense
24:22
Speaker 3: why he won over Kendrick that year.
24:25
Speaker 1: It's just popularity name recogniztion.
24:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like this year, I feel like they knocked
24:29
Speaker 3: it out the park with Killer Mike. I'm like, of course,
24:32
Speaker 3: Killer Mike had the best rap album of the year.
24:33
Speaker 3: I don't even think it was It wasn't even I
24:35
Speaker 3: didn't think it was close.
24:36
Speaker 1: It wasn't even close.
24:37
Speaker 2: It was solid and they got a ride and they
24:40
Speaker 2: got it right. Yeah, So that's exciting to see one hundred.
24:44
Speaker 2: I was.
24:44
Speaker 3: I was super stoked to see that. But I wonder, like,
24:47
Speaker 3: when you get a taste of that, are you like,
24:50
Speaker 3: do you when you create now? Do you create with
24:52
Speaker 3: the Grammys in mind?
24:53
Speaker 1: Are you super? Not anymore? Nothing in mind? No Grammys,
24:58
Speaker 1: no BT Awards, no.
25:01
Speaker 2: Billboard, which I've never really been high on anymore, no
25:04
Speaker 2: platinum plats.
25:05
Speaker 1: This one, I was like, you know, I'm tired of.
25:07
Speaker 3: Chasing these accolades.
25:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and these measurements, and sometimes some of it is
25:12
Speaker 2: real and some oftimes it's not.
25:14
Speaker 1: Like you say, something is a popularity.
25:15
Speaker 3: So hey, I'm gonna throw you my phone. Yeap, put
25:18
Speaker 3: it on the white shot. I think this is the
25:19
Speaker 3: guy who's coming to power wash out signs, hold on,
25:26
Speaker 3: just just go and put on the white chot. Sorry,
25:30
Speaker 3: this guy's doing this painting tomorrow.
25:32
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, gotta get this wash Yeah you want miss that.
25:35
Speaker 3: Tell him if he could come tonight. He needs to
25:37
Speaker 3: come tonight. So that because I always wonder, like, you know,
25:41
Speaker 3: like when people I always feel like when people on
25:44
Speaker 3: the other side of the spectrum, like when people have
25:46
Speaker 3: like certain commercial success where they feel like they have
25:49
Speaker 3: to go in and they have to create like a
25:50
Speaker 3: radio record or like a hit record, it always comes
25:53
Speaker 3: off like the forest, and I feel like that can
25:55
Speaker 3: happen on the other side where you're like, we gotta
25:58
Speaker 3: make this album for the Grammys.
26:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do that, but this one
26:02
Speaker 2: is super intentional. I want to have a connection with people.
26:05
Speaker 2: I want them to get to know me better. That
26:07
Speaker 2: was my only only goal. You know, some people can
26:10
Speaker 2: do that, they they.
26:12
Speaker 1: Do it well. Drake does it well for sure.
26:14
Speaker 5: You know.
26:15
Speaker 1: My space and how I create is different.
26:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if it comes, it comes, but it
26:20
Speaker 2: has to come naturally, Like I don't want to chase chase.
26:23
Speaker 3: It, you know, do you uh? Because somebody like yourself,
26:29
Speaker 3: I feel like it's like obviously criminally slept on underrated
26:31
Speaker 3: if you will, when we talk about just like the
26:34
Speaker 3: upper echelon of hip hop artists in the game, is
26:37
Speaker 3: that something that bothers you anymore? Being underrated or being
26:40
Speaker 3: slept on? No? Did it ever it did to you,
26:44
Speaker 3: It did.
26:44
Speaker 1: It did a lot. You know, you you compare yourself,
26:49
Speaker 1: you use that as a measure of its success. You're like,
26:52
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? What am I missing? Where do
26:54
Speaker 1: I fit in? Why is it? Why aren't I connecting?
26:57
Speaker 1: And translated? Now it's just like I don't don't really
27:00
Speaker 1: care anymore.
27:01
Speaker 3: It's easy to like look across the way and see
27:04
Speaker 3: what everyone else is doing and then let let that
27:06
Speaker 3: kind of affect your energy or let that affect your process.
27:10
Speaker 3: But I feel like it's like you gotta just kind
27:12
Speaker 3: of stay stay down, like you do what you do
27:14
Speaker 3: and like people love you for it.
27:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm content with that. My place is my place.
27:20
Speaker 3: You know.
27:21
Speaker 2: For whatever reason this is, it goes its way from
27:23
Speaker 2: me inside, it goes I receive it.
27:25
Speaker 3: How are you? How hip are you to like, like,
27:29
Speaker 3: do you still try to like discover new.
27:31
Speaker 1: Artists all the time? Yeah, as much as I can.
27:35
Speaker 2: You know, when I'm creating, I don't listen to a
27:37
Speaker 2: lot of music, but if I fall into it, I'm
27:40
Speaker 2: definitely tapped in all the time.
27:41
Speaker 3: Have you heard of this girl famsin that name Sounds.
27:45
Speaker 3: She's been going super viral with her firstyle, she's crazy.
27:48
Speaker 1: What she looked like.
27:49
Speaker 3: She's like light skinturly hair.
27:52
Speaker 2: She did the Badu flip. She's dope, She's super dope,
27:56
Speaker 2: super dope. I want to say I follow her.
27:58
Speaker 3: She's hardest.
27:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's crazy. Yeah.
28:01
Speaker 3: I was like, what I asked you about it?
28:03
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, I already yeah, already, No, I
28:06
Speaker 1: saw it. I was like, oh, she cold?
28:09
Speaker 3: Are you already? Even like, so album comes out, you
28:12
Speaker 3: get through the process of working the album. How much
28:15
Speaker 3: time do you take before you even start thinking about
28:18
Speaker 3: getting back in.
28:19
Speaker 2: Man, everyone is different the other ones. I would take
28:22
Speaker 2: like two months and I'm right back in. I finished
28:25
Speaker 2: this album completely in August. I've probably been in the
28:29
Speaker 2: studio once or twice.
28:31
Speaker 3: So for you, it's like, because you know there's some
28:34
Speaker 3: people who are like, yeo, no matter why I'm recording,
28:36
Speaker 3: I got thousands of songs for you, it's like, like
28:38
Speaker 3: you said, it's about intentions. So it's like you get
28:40
Speaker 3: to the end of that chapter, breathe a little, let's
28:43
Speaker 3: get the album out. Yeah, time for yourself, get reinspired.
28:47
Speaker 1: Yep, that's it.
28:48
Speaker 2: I'm just like I've told myself, even though if I'm
28:52
Speaker 2: not actively in the studio on the mic recording writing.
28:55
Speaker 2: I'm still creating right the conversations I have, the things
28:58
Speaker 2: I see, like my brain is all it never turns off.
29:02
Speaker 2: But I'm just keeping accounting record when the time comes.
29:05
Speaker 2: It's like I got the spark now, yeah, but I'll
29:10
Speaker 2: every day every now and again.
29:11
Speaker 3: We got to get the sparks. So you and hip
29:13
Speaker 3: Boy can do au ep.
29:14
Speaker 1: Oh No, we're gonna get it. There's a lot I
29:16
Speaker 1: want to do with a lot of people.
29:17
Speaker 3: So I think it's human hip Boy. You gotta do
29:20
Speaker 3: the hip boy album. That's gonna be crazy. Yeah.
29:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
29:23
Speaker 3: He's got his room and childice. You just go over
29:24
Speaker 3: there with him, a big hit big he will be
29:27
Speaker 3: doing push ups in the corner, pull up ball. I
29:34
Speaker 3: love him anyway. So the album comes out May seventeenth.
29:37
Speaker 3: What's the name of the album?
29:38
Speaker 1: Please Don't Cry?
29:39
Speaker 3: Please Don't Cry? Why that title? Are we gonna cry
29:42
Speaker 3: when we listen?
29:43
Speaker 1: You may?
29:44
Speaker 2: You know if it touches you, it's really about just
29:45
Speaker 2: allowing yourself to be human. You know it's ironic and
29:48
Speaker 2: it's like please don't cry with the whole album is
29:50
Speaker 2: like yo, no pheel be vulnerable, Be vulnerable. Cry when
29:54
Speaker 2: you sad, cry when you're mad, cry when you're happy,
29:56
Speaker 2: Cry because sh it's so fucking funny. Your stomach is
29:58
Speaker 2: a nuts like just be you know.
30:02
Speaker 1: That's what it says.
30:03
Speaker 3: The seventeenth go support. Appreciate you coming.
30:07
Speaker 1: By, thank you, looking forward to hearing that album.
30:10
Speaker 2: See you.
30:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope you hope you dig it.
30:12
Speaker 3: She likes hey man shout out to Rhapsody. Man, we
30:14
Speaker 3: like well cooked meals. A DJ heads is on the
30:16
Speaker 3: West Coast.
30:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, her is the full the full plate.
30:19
Speaker 3: There it is. I appreciate you for coming through.
30:22
Speaker 1: Thank you, Yes Booth, I love you man
30:25
Speaker 3: Fire, this is great