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BONUS: Wired To Hunt’s Rut Radio 11/9/16 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, this is Spencer new Art with Weird Hunt.
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Speaker 1: And this is the fourth week of our miniseries Radio
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Speaker 1: and it is November eight, election day. So Mark and
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Speaker 1: I are going to talk about politics for the next
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Speaker 1: half hour. I'm perfect. Yeah, yeah, I'm just kidding. But Mark, I,
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Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what state you're in right now.
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Speaker 1: What's going on with you? Well, it is a little
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Speaker 1: bit change up for me right now because instead of
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Speaker 1: me being recorded this in my computer like usual with
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Speaker 1: all the podcasts I do, I'm actually on a cell
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Speaker 1: phone right now in my truck driving to Ohio. So yeah, changing,
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Speaker 1: changing up. My scenery. Have been pounding at Heart in
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Speaker 1: Michigan and it's finally time to check out a new spot.
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Speaker 1: And so do we have a happy ending yet with
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Speaker 1: holy Field? Uh? No, no happy ending yet. Um. I
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Speaker 1: have been hunt seeing my tail off for him and Um.
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Speaker 1: In in this week's episode of the Wired Hunt podcast,
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Speaker 1: which will be out tomorrow, I go into excruciating detail
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Speaker 1: of everything I've been trying to do and it's just
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Speaker 1: been frustrating because of limitations with Um, with my property, UM,
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Speaker 1: the moral of the stories that I've seen him so
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Speaker 1: so many times, but he's always just a little bit
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Speaker 1: out of reach and most of the time on the
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Speaker 1: other side of the property line that I can't get
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Speaker 1: too obviously. So um so yeah, you know, it's been
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Speaker 1: really cool hunting this buck and getting to know him
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Speaker 1: and see him so often. But he has won this round,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure. Yeah. Well, that's that's November for you.
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Speaker 1: It can be fun and it can be frustrating. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's we're just talking about. It could be the best
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Speaker 1: of times in the worst of times. But for you,
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Speaker 1: you have you've had some success, right, Yeah. So I'm
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Speaker 1: an opportunity hunter, not just specifically an archery hunter. That's
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Speaker 1: my passion. But if I can pick up a rifle
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Speaker 1: tag now and then I will, and I'll table to
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Speaker 1: draw a pretty easy rifle tag for western South Dakota. Um.
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Speaker 1: But it's a pretty tough haunt. There's a lot of orange,
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Speaker 1: and there isn't much public to go around. So I
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Speaker 1: went in with it with lowered expectations like if I
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Speaker 1: could take a one thirty or something like that, I'd
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Speaker 1: be happy. And and I was able to get a
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Speaker 1: buck just around there, so I was really excited with
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Speaker 1: how it went and Uh, it's a good way to
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Speaker 1: start the route for me. It Uh, it makes things
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Speaker 1: easier to come back home now and haunt archery there.
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Speaker 1: It feels like there's a little bit less pressure now
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Speaker 1: to take off that. I love that feeling when you've
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Speaker 1: got tag killed and everything after that's kind of just crazy.
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Speaker 1: So so this right, this podcast is all about right
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Speaker 1: activity and reporting on what we're seeing. So can we
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Speaker 1: maybe get our first rout report from you? What have
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Speaker 1: you been seen in South Dakota on that hunt or otherwise? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: well I'll start with the rifle hunt. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: when you get a rifle season opening like that with
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Speaker 1: heavily pressured public land, uh, the rut can basically just
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Speaker 1: go right out the window because suddenly the deer aren't
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Speaker 1: acting like deer anymore. They're acting like deer that are
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Speaker 1: being chased by a group of humans. So it's way different. Um.
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Speaker 1: But the first morning was when I shot this buck,
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Speaker 1: and it was a tough morning. Um, I hadn't seen
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Speaker 1: much and it was actually when I was on my
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Speaker 1: way back to the truck, I spotted this buck in
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Speaker 1: a draw and it was like ten am and he
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Speaker 1: was up and kind of moving about and he saw
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Speaker 1: me about when I saw him, and he allowed me
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Speaker 1: to get in position. I was at like ninety yards
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Speaker 1: and he didn't move much, he didn't flee or anything
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Speaker 1: like that, and I dropped him in one shot. And
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Speaker 1: so because of because of how he was acting, you know,
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Speaker 1: there was definitely something else on his mind. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: too concerned about what I was doing or getting out
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Speaker 1: of that area. So all the no, no, no chasing
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Speaker 1: or anything like that on that just probably because of
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Speaker 1: all of Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I think the
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Speaker 1: ruck kind of goes out the window. And in that case,
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Speaker 1: but I have been back home archery hunting now as
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Speaker 1: far as the deer activity goes, like the younger bucks
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Speaker 1: are moving so much, um, you know, I see as
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Speaker 1: much moving and as much activity on my trail cameras
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Speaker 1: with those one and a half and two and a
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Speaker 1: half year old bucks in the morning and evenings as
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Speaker 1: I do it midday, and so they're definitely on about now.
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Speaker 1: I'm just hoping their excessive movement will translate to the
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Speaker 1: bigger bucks starting to move a little more now for
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Speaker 1: me in daylight. Now, that's the hope that the time
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Speaker 1: of years happened that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, if it's
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Speaker 1: if it's gonna happen, it will be now. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: been actually seeing you know, like we talked about last week, um,
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Speaker 1: and really the last two weeks, I've been seeing really
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Speaker 1: good running activity in Michigan compared to what I usually
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Speaker 1: do on a farm. And I don't know if that's
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Speaker 1: just a product of changes with my fear. The last
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Speaker 1: seven days I've seen Hobly feel I think three times,
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Speaker 1: and each one of those times i've seen him chasing does. Um.
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Speaker 1: I've seen another two bucks that I believe at three
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Speaker 1: and a half years old, and both of them i've
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Speaker 1: seen them several different times. A couple of different times.
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Speaker 1: I've seen them on their own just cruising, um, at
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Speaker 1: three o'clock in the afternoon, at ten o'clock in the morning,
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Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the afternoon, and then I've also
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Speaker 1: seen both of them chasing does too. So they're definitely
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Speaker 1: getting after it. Um. Tons of dinks, you know, a
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Speaker 1: year and a half old running all over the place
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Speaker 1: to all all times of the day as well. So
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Speaker 1: I mean as far as running activity by me, yeah,
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Speaker 1: as the buzzi as he gets in this part of Michigan,
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Speaker 1: at least on the property's I hunt. Um been been
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Speaker 1: seeing a lot and just I usually don't see three
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Speaker 1: and a half year old running around like this. Um,
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Speaker 1: so it's what I've it's what I've wanted to see.
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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of fun. I mean. So two
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Speaker 1: days ago I was hanging a new stand, kind of
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Speaker 1: running down Sat trying to get on Holy Field. And
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Speaker 1: while I'm playing my six in the tree trying to
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Speaker 1: climb up there here comes Frazier, this three and after
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Speaker 1: all I've been watching for a while now, starts walking
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Speaker 1: right towards me here merely the wrestling, and he heard
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Speaker 1: a noise and was interested in what it was, and
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Speaker 1: he walked in about ten yards of me while I'm
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Speaker 1: standing on the ground just frozen until he kind of
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Speaker 1: figured out there was something not quite right about the situation.
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Speaker 1: So their first year, they're curious, they're looking for they're
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Speaker 1: looking for love right now, but unfortunately for him, in
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Speaker 1: all the wrong places. Yeah, and how does that translate
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Speaker 1: to Ohio? For you? What are your expectations going there?
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Speaker 1: What kind of tactics are you gonna use? You know,
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Speaker 1: that's gonna be the big question, big question mark right
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Speaker 1: now is what will be going down in Ohio. What
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Speaker 1: I've always historically seen in the five or six years
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Speaker 1: I've been hunting down here has always been that the
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Speaker 1: activity seems to be better a little bit later down
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Speaker 1: here for us compared to a home. And I've kind
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Speaker 1: of hypothesized that that's just because is I'm hunting in
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Speaker 1: the far southern part of Ohio, so it's usually like
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Speaker 1: ten degrees warmer down there than it is compared to
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Speaker 1: my home in Michigan. So there's just a better chance
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Speaker 1: in the second week or third week vever I'm getting
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Speaker 1: some cooler weather, um than not. So when I get
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Speaker 1: those cooler temperatures, that just seems to always kick the
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Speaker 1: daily activity up a notch or two. So a cold
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Speaker 1: frems actually hitting today and tonight and the temps will
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Speaker 1: be like thirteen degrees cooler than they were yesterday when
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Speaker 1: I'm out there tomorrow, So I'm hoping that means there's
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Speaker 1: been some good activity. Um. I've got a wireless trail
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Speaker 1: camera down there that showed a really nice big buck
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Speaker 1: on the property in the middle of the day, one
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Speaker 1: thirty in the afternoon on camera. UM. A couple of
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Speaker 1: days ago so they're definitely starting to move more. And
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Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those areas that doesn't have
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Speaker 1: a ton of deer, is not a very high deer population,
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Speaker 1: so I know I'm not gonna see a lot deer,
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Speaker 1: but usually because it's kind of a travel quarter, they're there.
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Speaker 1: You just have to be there when the right one
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Speaker 1: cruise there. Um. So that's my plans. I'm just gonna
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Speaker 1: set up in a travel corridor, whether it will be
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Speaker 1: funneling between two big areas of timber, where there's gonna
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Speaker 1: be do's about it, and I'm just gonna hunt all
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Speaker 1: day in these kind of pinch points for as long
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Speaker 1: as I possibly can, as many days as I can.
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Speaker 1: And it's just kind of a crime. Um. There's no fancy,
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Speaker 1: no fancy tactics, just kind of grinded out will I
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Speaker 1: will say. In Michigan, what I found the most subcessed
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Speaker 1: with was focusing on dope betting areas. When I whenever
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Speaker 1: I was tied to a dope betting area, that was
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Speaker 1: when I was seeing these deer in daylight. There weren't
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Speaker 1: so much traveling in different places. It was all really
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Speaker 1: tight to the best to betting areas that have in
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Speaker 1: the area. Yeah, well, I think this is as good
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Speaker 1: as it gets right now, and if our conversations are
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Speaker 1: are any implication of what's going on right now. My
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Speaker 1: contexts were really hard to get hold of this week
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Speaker 1: because they were all sitting in the woods all day.
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Speaker 1: That's a tough problem to have, but this is a
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Speaker 1: good problem to have because it means we're out there
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Speaker 1: doing what we love. Yeah. Absolutely, So We're gonna start
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Speaker 1: with Ben harsh Shine in Iowa with hunt Tera Mapping,
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Speaker 1: and then we have Mike hunt Sucker in Wyoming with
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Speaker 1: heart Lambow Hunter. Then we go to New Hampshire and
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Speaker 1: talk to Tim Bieble from the four Pointer dot Com.
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Speaker 1: And then we end with Haynes Shelton in Kansas and
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Speaker 1: North American White Tailed TV. Excellent, Well should we should
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Speaker 1: we get right to it and stop our rambler? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: We better you You enjoy your drive, Mark he thanks,
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Speaker 1: good luck coming you too, but quickly before we get
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Speaker 1: now onto the show. Are joining us on the line.
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Speaker 1: First is Ben Harshine, the founder of Huntera Mapping. Now
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Speaker 1: Ben in Iowa, what would you say the buck activity
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Speaker 1: has been there on a scale of one to ten, Um, boy,
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Speaker 1: I probably put it at I would say, uh seven
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Speaker 1: or an eighth in the mornings over the past um
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Speaker 1: five days to past week pre you know, really good
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Speaker 1: pre rut action leading into some classic heart for rut chasing. UM.
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Speaker 1: Mornings definitely seemed to be significantly better for movement. UM.
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Speaker 1: Here in the Midwest, we're dealing with UM midday highs
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Speaker 1: and probably the mid to high sixties, low seventies, but
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Speaker 1: the the lows in the mornings at first lighter in
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Speaker 1: the low forties to mid forties, and that seems to
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Speaker 1: really um get them pretty fired up. So my mornings
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Speaker 1: have been super hot as far as dear movement and
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Speaker 1: seeing four or five six bucks every morning between first
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Speaker 1: light and UM I'd say nine, nine to ten o'clock.
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Speaker 1: These past couple fits recently have been seeing more mature
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Speaker 1: bucks on their feet. UM. Seemed like earlier last week
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Speaker 1: a lot of my sits were I've seen a lot
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Speaker 1: of a lot of cruising, but you know, uh, two
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Speaker 1: year olds, some three year olds. Um. And then these
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Speaker 1: past handful of days started to see some some dear
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Speaker 1: that I haven't recognized, but definitely four year old plus
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Speaker 1: tear that are that are up on their feet, and
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Speaker 1: some of them have been really actively pursuing those. Sure,
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Speaker 1: and so a seven or eight in the morning, what
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Speaker 1: do you think about that evening movement, in that midday movement? Uh,
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Speaker 1: you know that we're pretty concerned about during the route
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Speaker 1: like this. Yeah, I've seen I've been sitting it's yet
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Speaker 1: at three times now, um, three all day sits and
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Speaker 1: the mid day um, I believe. And two of them
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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of three year olds either come
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Speaker 1: scooting through. I saw one on Sunday with a dough
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Speaker 1: she she was he was tending her and she they
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Speaker 1: were actively breathing. I mean she brought basically brought him
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Speaker 1: up to a pretty secluded ditch and and um, he
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Speaker 1: tended her right there. So there they are definitely starting
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Speaker 1: to uh connect with those more and more. Um, mid
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Speaker 1: day I think it's kind of hit or miss. And
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Speaker 1: in the evening when the sun starts dropping and it
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Speaker 1: starts getting cool a little bit, and seeing some decent movement,
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Speaker 1: but really nothing like the cruise that I've been seeing
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Speaker 1: in the in the mornings. So and Ben, I saw
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Speaker 1: on Facebook a couple of days ago you asked a
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Speaker 1: really compelling question, um, and it was basically asking, Uh,
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Speaker 1: come this time of year, peak rot, how important is
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Speaker 1: a mature bucks betting? Um? You know when he's out
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Speaker 1: chasing and basically looking for aut dolls. And I saw
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Speaker 1: you got like seventy plus comments on that. What did
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Speaker 1: you learn from from that status? Ben? And is there
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Speaker 1: a consensus answer to that question? There was a lot
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Speaker 1: of opinions on it. Um. I do think it's one
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Speaker 1: thing to point out is that it's a matter of
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Speaker 1: that specific animal. Um. You know, what he chooses to
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Speaker 1: do is not exactly the same thing as what the
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Speaker 1: next six and a half year old lifetell is going
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Speaker 1: to choose to do. Um, he got this far in life,
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Speaker 1: I believe that he's probably going to start to stick
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Speaker 1: to the situations that he's put himself in, in the
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Speaker 1: locations he's put himself into get this far in his life. So, UM,
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Speaker 1: whether he's betting there year round, I'm not sure whether
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Speaker 1: he's betting there UM right now? Possibly it's probably an
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Speaker 1: area of security for him. What happens whenever that first
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Speaker 1: dough that comes through that he catch his window? Will
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Speaker 1: he get with her and bring her back to that
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Speaker 1: area go off where she wants to take him? I'm
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Speaker 1: not I'm really not quite sure. But it's just really
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Speaker 1: interesting to think about that kind of stuff. And I've
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Speaker 1: got a lot uht of phenomenal uh answers from some
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Speaker 1: big buck killers. Uh and there their take on on it.
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Speaker 1: So pretty cool topic though. Yeah, And what I kind
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Speaker 1: of gathered was that, you know, each buck is unique,
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Speaker 1: but overall, a lot of them they got that big
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Speaker 1: for a reason and that and that's kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: staying safe and keeping in the area they're familiar with.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. What about going forward, Ben,
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Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think
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Speaker 1: the rut activity is going to be there? On a
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Speaker 1: scale of one to ten, I think it's going to
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Speaker 1: continue to be solid um and uh, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: we're getting to the point, I'm in the bell curve
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Speaker 1: where we're really creeping into some time when a lot
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Speaker 1: of more and more doughs are going to be coming
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Speaker 1: into Estrau. So the availability and the supply is going
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Speaker 1: to be significantly greater than it was, say right now
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Speaker 1: or even a week kill um, But that doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: that all of the bucks are getting on does at
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Speaker 1: the same time in the woods are going to completely
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Speaker 1: go silent. Um. There's dose on bucks right now that
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Speaker 1: will be on does for the next twenty four to
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Speaker 1: thirty six hours that will then again have to go
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Speaker 1: find another one. And there's there's bucks currently right now
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Speaker 1: that are looking for them. That's going to be the
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Speaker 1: case the whole way through the run. You just have
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Speaker 1: to be there for whenever that right one comes through,
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Speaker 1: whether he's with a dough or not. Absolutely well, for
15:31
Speaker 1: your sake, I hope those big bucks stick around to
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Speaker 1: what they're familiar with and you get a shot at him.
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Speaker 1: So thanks for your time, Ben, I appreciate the call. Hey,
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Speaker 1: thanks Wat Spencer and joining us on the line. Next
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Speaker 1: is Mike hun Sucker, host of heart Lamb Bow Hunter. Now, Mike,
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Speaker 1: in northeastern Wyoming, what would you say the buck activity
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Speaker 1: has been there on a scale of one to ten. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, uh, this part of the state is is
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Speaker 1: quite a bit different than anywhere um, and in the
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Speaker 1: middle West, there's just a ton of ton of deer,
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Speaker 1: really high numbers and so, um, you know, the buck
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Speaker 1: activities always pretty good. I mean depending on the time
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Speaker 1: of the year, but I mean anywhere from you know,
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Speaker 1: early season through October. You know, I seems like you know,
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Speaker 1: they're they're they're moving, they're they're doing you know, they're
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Speaker 1: doing their things. So UM, I would say right now,
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Speaker 1: you know, we're seeing deer, we're seeing bucks, and and
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Speaker 1: they're moving in daylight. As as far as the ruts concerned, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I would probably say it's about a seven
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Speaker 1: seven six or seven. You know. I we're from what
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Speaker 1: we've seen, you know, we've only hunted for two days. Um,
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Speaker 1: but we're seeing some seeking, you know, some bucks you know,
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Speaker 1: bumping doughs around and making scrapes and that type of stuff.
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Speaker 1: But nothing. I haven't seen any situation where I've I've
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Speaker 1: seen a dough it's for sure hot and for sure
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Speaker 1: and heating that that bucks are kind of fighting over.
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Speaker 1: So sure. And would you say that your morning sits
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Speaker 1: are better right now or your evenings, Um, the evening
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Speaker 1: sits have actually been better, um, the the past couple
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Speaker 1: of days. This morning, we hunted this morning and it
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Speaker 1: was just really really slow. Um, but usually like I
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Speaker 1: don't know when in in the midwest of Missourian stuff.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I love morning this time of year just
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Speaker 1: because it's you know, the weather is a lot cooler.
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Speaker 1: But um, it's just been so on the seasonal we
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Speaker 1: warm across the whole Midwest and even out here. And
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Speaker 1: why when he was sixty degrees today, when hasn't heard
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Speaker 1: of so Um, you know, just kind of want those
17:25
Speaker 1: one of those things, you know, you gotta we gotta
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Speaker 1: deal with what we're what we're doing, and the weather
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Speaker 1: is you know, I mean they're still running the ruts.
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Speaker 1: The ruts gonna happen no matter what. It's just you know,
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Speaker 1: when the when the temperatures get up into the sixties,
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Speaker 1: it just really suffused the daylight activity absolutely. And what
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Speaker 1: kind of areas are you guys focusing in on right now?
17:43
Speaker 1: Are you near their bedding? Are you looking for water
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Speaker 1: or food or what are you doing there? In Wyoming?
17:48
Speaker 1: We're actually out here it's super super dry, so we're
17:51
Speaker 1: we're kind of concentrating on some some water areas and
17:55
Speaker 1: that may be why are our barning runt was so
17:57
Speaker 1: slow because we went to this we went to this
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Speaker 1: spot that say, usually as a nice, nice water hole,
18:03
Speaker 1: but it's been so dry that literally there was no
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Speaker 1: water and it so we were sitting over a water
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Speaker 1: hole and the water more but um, yeah, water is
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Speaker 1: kind of the limited resource out here at the moment.
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Speaker 1: So um, we're kind of keen on water, and the
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Speaker 1: water sources typically are kind of you know, in transition
18:18
Speaker 1: areas between bed and food. Sure, And so you talked
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Speaker 1: about sign a little bit earlier with some scrapes and uh,
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Speaker 1: the scrapes and rubs in your area, are are they
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Speaker 1: hitting them in daylight yet or not? Yeah? I mean
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Speaker 1: there's rubs all over the place, you know, and and
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Speaker 1: they you know, they started making rubs a lot of
18:35
Speaker 1: times right out of velvet and so it's kind of
18:37
Speaker 1: hard to tell. But um, a lot of rubs and
18:39
Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes. And actually we had a hunt's
18:42
Speaker 1: night and had had two nice bucks come in. Unfortunately
18:47
Speaker 1: the one we were wanting to shoot was a big
18:49
Speaker 1: nine for sure, mature deer, its like six plus. Um.
18:53
Speaker 1: He came out plenty of daylight and then kind of
18:56
Speaker 1: fed off to our our south and then he um
19:00
Speaker 1: didn't come back until like last last light and um,
19:04
Speaker 1: there was another he was with another nice buck and
19:06
Speaker 1: he kind of bumped him, pushed him out of the way,
19:07
Speaker 1: and I passed him up. Um, I wasn't sure if
19:10
Speaker 1: he was three or four. He was he was really nice,
19:12
Speaker 1: but he was quickly might have been a younger deer.
19:14
Speaker 1: And then he finally made his way in within bow
19:17
Speaker 1: range about thirty five yards, but it was just too
19:19
Speaker 1: dark for for film for footage, so he got the
19:22
Speaker 1: past tonight. But um, after after we passed him up,
19:25
Speaker 1: he went down the draw and bumped a few dolls
19:28
Speaker 1: around and when he was down there thrashing, making a
19:30
Speaker 1: rup and making some scrapes down there. So um, they're
19:32
Speaker 1: definitely still hitting them. And um, you know, usually this
19:36
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite favorite weeks out of the
19:37
Speaker 1: whole year to hunt, but it seems to me, um,
19:40
Speaker 1: just from what I've seen, it's like not not quite
19:43
Speaker 1: there yet, So share until with that said, going forward,
19:46
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna get better? Like, what do
19:48
Speaker 1: you think on a scale of one to ten, the
19:50
Speaker 1: bunk activity will be in this coming week? You know,
19:53
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it's gonna be better based on the weather conditions. Um,
19:57
Speaker 1: obviously you know the next over the course of the
19:59
Speaker 1: next week, think is is gonna be. It should be
20:02
Speaker 1: better than better than anything that that's happened yet this year.
20:05
Speaker 1: I would I would imagine, Um, you know, obviously the
20:08
Speaker 1: rut is it's so and you know you talk to
20:10
Speaker 1: somebody and they're like, oh, it's on, it's on. It's
20:12
Speaker 1: going crazy here and you know it's all situational. It
20:15
Speaker 1: depends on where you're at and in the location and
20:17
Speaker 1: the spot you are. I mean I've been, you know,
20:20
Speaker 1: had had hunts in November when everything was perfect, you know,
20:23
Speaker 1: pressures through the roof conditions, you know, temperatures are low
20:26
Speaker 1: and you don't see any deer just like you know,
20:28
Speaker 1: there's bad luck. You happen to be the wrong spot
20:30
Speaker 1: of the wrong at the wrong time. So, um, I
20:32
Speaker 1: do think it'll get better, though, I really do. And
20:34
Speaker 1: out here, you know, it's it's different too. You know,
20:37
Speaker 1: it's not like it's hunting in Kansas or Western Kansas.
20:39
Speaker 1: For the the numbers are super low and the rut
20:42
Speaker 1: the competition is through the roof. You know. Um, there's
20:45
Speaker 1: just literally more dear per square mile than anybody anywhere
20:48
Speaker 1: else that ever hunting out here, So there's so many doughs,
20:52
Speaker 1: and there's you know there there's a ton of bucks too,
20:55
Speaker 1: but there's you know, a limited amount of mature box
20:57
Speaker 1: and they kind of run things and so you know,
21:00
Speaker 1: it's almost like they don't really have to compete that
21:01
Speaker 1: much to find a dough and heat. Yeah, well, I
21:04
Speaker 1: know either way, you guys are gonna lay down some
21:06
Speaker 1: sick footage and stuff. I can't wait to see next season,
21:10
Speaker 1: Harlan bow Hunter. So thanks for your time, Mike, Yeah, hey,
21:13
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm I'm looking forward to the next few
21:15
Speaker 1: days alright. And joining us on the phone. Next is
21:20
Speaker 1: Tim Bieble of the four pointer dot Com. Now, Tim
21:23
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire, what would you say the buck activity
21:26
Speaker 1: has been there? On the scale of one to ten,
21:29
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a seven right now. Definitely up
21:32
Speaker 1: from last time we spoke. Um, I've seen more buck
21:37
Speaker 1: activity this year than I've seen in many years past.
21:43
Speaker 1: Very active scrape line I've been seeing. It seems like
21:46
Speaker 1: every time I got out there to hunt again there
21:49
Speaker 1: was a fresh grape or two on the ground and
21:51
Speaker 1: and uh, definitely exciting rubs too, So very active out there. Um,
21:56
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'll give it a seven. And can you
21:58
Speaker 1: think of a reason why you would say it's been
22:01
Speaker 1: better movement this time of year than a year's past.
22:04
Speaker 1: I can. I've been racking my brain to figure out
22:06
Speaker 1: what it is. I think maybe I've just got a
22:08
Speaker 1: buck in there this year, and that's particular property that's
22:11
Speaker 1: a little bit more active or more dominant than than
22:14
Speaker 1: there has been a year's passed. And um, that's you know,
22:17
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I can think of at this point. Um.
22:19
Speaker 1: But otherwise I've been I've been trying to figure it
22:21
Speaker 1: out myself. Sure. And and so you're saying you're seeing
22:25
Speaker 1: a lot of scrapes right now, do you think that's
22:27
Speaker 1: typical for this time of year two there or not? Yeah, definitely,
22:31
Speaker 1: this is usually when we see him, Uh, first part
22:34
Speaker 1: of November for sure. And uh, you know we're out
22:38
Speaker 1: of the woods and Vermont. I like to hunt in
22:40
Speaker 1: there too. We're not usually in Vermont this time of
22:42
Speaker 1: year because there's no seasons open, but that season open Saturday,
22:46
Speaker 1: and typically when the rifle season open Saturday, typically when
22:50
Speaker 1: I get out there for opening day on on Saturday,
22:53
Speaker 1: I see scrapes that are a week older. So so
22:56
Speaker 1: you know, usually it's the first week or two in
22:58
Speaker 1: November when we see these scrapes. And what about with
23:02
Speaker 1: the doughs that you've been seeing, have you noticed them
23:04
Speaker 1: acting any differently or no? I wouldn't say that I
23:09
Speaker 1: been looking for it, but I haven't seen it. Um,
23:11
Speaker 1: I mean deer sightings. My deer sightings have been pretty
23:14
Speaker 1: low as it is, um, just hunting big woods, you
23:17
Speaker 1: just don't see a lot of deer. But the ones
23:19
Speaker 1: I have seen haven't really been acting any different than
23:22
Speaker 1: than what I would expect this type of year. Sure,
23:25
Speaker 1: in the in the deer are you see? Are you
23:27
Speaker 1: are seeing? Would you say they're from more of morning
23:29
Speaker 1: sits or evening sits? Evening for me? Um? You know,
23:34
Speaker 1: the last week I tried to sneak out a little
23:36
Speaker 1: bit before work. Um got out for an hour or
23:38
Speaker 1: two each morning, But so I haven't been able to
23:41
Speaker 1: put in a lot of time in the mornings. Um,
23:44
Speaker 1: So most of my longer sits have been in the evenings,
23:46
Speaker 1: and that's when I'm definitely seeing deer. Um. They just
23:49
Speaker 1: seemed to be on their feet just an hour before
23:51
Speaker 1: dark or so, working their way out of their bedding
23:54
Speaker 1: areas and back up. You know, two oaks that are
23:58
Speaker 1: loaded with acorns and and just on the feet to
24:01
Speaker 1: go feed. Sure, and so what sort of an area
24:03
Speaker 1: have you found this big bucket? I know you told
24:06
Speaker 1: me you have a bigger buck maybe like five and
24:07
Speaker 1: a half years old, that you've been targeting. What's the area? Yeah,
24:11
Speaker 1: you've had encounters with him in Yeah, he's pretty cool
24:15
Speaker 1: looking buck. Um. I just got him on camera last week. Honestly,
24:19
Speaker 1: I didn't didn't know he was still in the area.
24:21
Speaker 1: I have him on camera, um, three years ago, I
24:25
Speaker 1: believe as a two and a half year old. He's
24:27
Speaker 1: gotta he's gotta messed up right side his right pedicles,
24:31
Speaker 1: it's kind of been off of the side, so it's
24:33
Speaker 1: right angler grows funny. So he's pretty recognizable. But um,
24:37
Speaker 1: this is uh, you know, he's he's following roots along
24:42
Speaker 1: the top of a probably a mile long ridge. Um,
24:46
Speaker 1: he's just cutting across it. And from what I can tell,
24:48
Speaker 1: he's of course doing it in the middle of the
24:50
Speaker 1: night when I'm not there. But um, he's coming up
24:53
Speaker 1: from his betting area, which I think is down in
24:55
Speaker 1: the valley, deep valley and up on a hillside across
24:59
Speaker 1: a swamp on the other side pretty hard to get to,
25:02
Speaker 1: but it's a mixture of hardwoods and pines, and uh,
25:06
Speaker 1: he's following the edges of these oaks where they meet
25:09
Speaker 1: up with thick pine stands. And then uh, as he
25:13
Speaker 1: goes down over over the ridge back to his bedding area,
25:16
Speaker 1: he's just following the slight rises in uh, you know,
25:19
Speaker 1: in the hardwoods where he can see both directions as
25:23
Speaker 1: he heads back down the hill. And pretty neat to
25:25
Speaker 1: find that bucks on there. I mean, it's right where
25:27
Speaker 1: you'd expect to see it, but oftentimes you just don't
25:29
Speaker 1: know you're you're standing in that spot un till you
25:32
Speaker 1: until you're there. Um, you know, twenty yards to the
25:35
Speaker 1: right or left, you wouldn't know any different. But once
25:38
Speaker 1: you're there, he realized why a buck's traveling where's traveling?
25:41
Speaker 1: He can just see he's got good visuals, um, and
25:44
Speaker 1: he can use the wind in the evening and in
25:46
Speaker 1: the mornings to travel back and forth. But so far
25:49
Speaker 1: I just haven't been able to catch up with him.
25:50
Speaker 1: But hoping that changes tomorrow. Sure, And what about going
25:54
Speaker 1: forward to the next week or so, what do you
25:56
Speaker 1: think the Buck ACTV is going to be? Then? On
25:58
Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten. No, I'm gonna keep
26:01
Speaker 1: it pretty high. I mean seven or eight, I would
26:03
Speaker 1: think definitely. Hearing you know, stories of people seeing bucks
26:08
Speaker 1: chasing now, um, you know, and I'm hoping that's the
26:11
Speaker 1: way that this guy is gonna mess up. I think
26:13
Speaker 1: he's just got to make a mistake and and I
26:15
Speaker 1: think for the most part just comes down to me
26:18
Speaker 1: being there, you know, just having the time to actually
26:20
Speaker 1: be there and wait him out to make that mistake
26:22
Speaker 1: and chase a dough through the area. I just think
26:25
Speaker 1: he's he's old and smart, and that's probably the only
26:27
Speaker 1: way he's gonna get get killed. So yeah, i'd keep
26:31
Speaker 1: it pretty high, seven or eight for sure. Well, that's
26:33
Speaker 1: exciting to hear, and I hope that all comes together
26:36
Speaker 1: for you. Tim. Thanks for your time. Yeah, I appreciate
26:39
Speaker 1: it very much, Talk too soon. And joining us on
26:41
Speaker 1: the line next is Haynes Schillon, associate editor of North
26:45
Speaker 1: American Whitetail. Now. Haynes has been doing some filming in
26:48
Speaker 1: Kansas and Haynes, on a scale of one to ten,
26:51
Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activity has been there
26:53
Speaker 1: in the last week or so, Hi Spencer as go
26:56
Speaker 1: man Um Well, I'll tell you. We came into uh,
27:02
Speaker 1: Kansas on November three, UH first afternoon sit. I saw
27:07
Speaker 1: a big hundred and sixty inch tank of a buck
27:10
Speaker 1: out there tending two does, and had a hundred forty
27:14
Speaker 1: inch buck come in right after him, and we thought
27:18
Speaker 1: it was on fire, you know. Uh. The next day
27:22
Speaker 1: had another shooter come in, um dog and two does,
27:27
Speaker 1: and you know, things were looking really hot. And you know,
27:30
Speaker 1: if you'd asked me after our first two days here,
27:33
Speaker 1: I would have told you man eight or nine, you know,
27:37
Speaker 1: we had We've been using a doe decoy and a
27:41
Speaker 1: buck decoy, switching them out, you know, day by day,
27:45
Speaker 1: and it's had tremendous response to both. At the start
27:49
Speaker 1: of our hunt, I had three bucks right at one
27:54
Speaker 1: thirty young deer three year old uh, come right into
27:58
Speaker 1: both the buck and a doe DKI. I had bucks
28:02
Speaker 1: blowing up on it. I didn't have any knock them over,
28:05
Speaker 1: but I had them you know how they get all
28:08
Speaker 1: bristle back, hair stands up, they lay those ears back.
28:12
Speaker 1: I had them circling the buck, and I had bucks
28:17
Speaker 1: coming in looking like they were going to breathe my dodecoy.
28:20
Speaker 1: I mean just sniffing the butt on that thing, looking
28:23
Speaker 1: like they're getting ready to hop on it and mount.
28:26
Speaker 1: And uh. Ever since then the past three days and
28:29
Speaker 1: then really slow. You know, you know, if I had
28:33
Speaker 1: to give you one to ten today, I might tell
28:35
Speaker 1: you four or five. You know, it's almost, uh, it's
28:39
Speaker 1: almost varying day by day so much that it's hard
28:42
Speaker 1: to say. Now. Yeah, well that sounds like the rut um.
28:46
Speaker 1: And with that decoying, let's go into a little more
28:49
Speaker 1: on what techniques have been using there. Have you've been
28:51
Speaker 1: using any sense or calling and what type in the
28:53
Speaker 1: area are you sitting those decoys up in? Yeah? Yeah, well,
28:58
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty wide open here in the part
29:00
Speaker 1: of Kansas I'm at. We're hunting uh two big agg
29:04
Speaker 1: fields milo and a corn field that are split apart
29:09
Speaker 1: by the slough. We call it a plum thicket, and
29:11
Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, it's a great travel corridor slash
29:15
Speaker 1: bedding area combo. And you know, we hunt right on
29:19
Speaker 1: the edge of that thing, and the bucks and does
29:22
Speaker 1: can pile out. It's almost like a wind break too.
29:26
Speaker 1: They can pile out from there into these agg fields.
29:28
Speaker 1: And that's where we're setting up our decoy. And like
29:31
Speaker 1: I said, basically, they've got a flambeau boss buck decoy.
29:36
Speaker 1: It looks like a great, big, mature buck. You take
29:38
Speaker 1: the horns off, it looks like a big like a
29:41
Speaker 1: nanny dough and uh, you know, been trying both and
29:46
Speaker 1: you know when it's the dough. I got a piece
29:49
Speaker 1: of white uh fabric that I cut out looks like
29:52
Speaker 1: a tail, and I'll put that thing on there and
29:54
Speaker 1: I might apply some you know Estra sent to it.
29:57
Speaker 1: And that's where I've had my bucks coming in checking
30:00
Speaker 1: that and you know, send checking or smelling around. So
30:04
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's awesome when you use the decoy
30:07
Speaker 1: and it's working. It's some of the most fun hunting
30:10
Speaker 1: you can do, you know, to see those great big
30:13
Speaker 1: bucks or those you know, young bucks or or whatever
30:17
Speaker 1: coming in to check it out. It's just at the rush, Matt. Yeah.
30:20
Speaker 1: And what about for your seats on morning versus evening?
30:23
Speaker 1: Are you seeing more activity on on one or the other.
30:27
Speaker 1: It's variable, you know, it's seeing good deer movement on
30:30
Speaker 1: both um. But the mornings is where I'm getting. You know,
30:34
Speaker 1: that good rut activity that I saw the first two days,
30:37
Speaker 1: that was both mornings were we're really on fire. You know.
30:42
Speaker 1: The evenings are more more travel you know, if I
30:45
Speaker 1: can catch them traveling. We've had them come in and react.
30:47
Speaker 1: But I'd say mornings, if I had to lean one
30:50
Speaker 1: way or another, probably mournings a little hotter right now. Yeah,
30:53
Speaker 1: and what about going forward? What do you think the
30:55
Speaker 1: bucket activity is gonna be then on a scale of
30:58
Speaker 1: one to ten in this next week or so. Well,
31:01
Speaker 1: and I'm in a good part of Kansas, um during
31:06
Speaker 1: the darn right time of year, you know that could
31:08
Speaker 1: I could go in in the morning and it's full throttle.
31:11
Speaker 1: You know, it could be a teen. You know, we've
31:13
Speaker 1: got a big coal front coming in to night. There's
31:16
Speaker 1: a frost advisory for the morning. It's gonna hang around
31:21
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty six degrees. I think it will
31:24
Speaker 1: have them wrapped up. But you know they gotta rut.
31:27
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it. They only get one chance a year,
31:29
Speaker 1: you know. I'd say in the next week it could
31:32
Speaker 1: be an eight or nine. Man. Yeah, well, I hope
31:34
Speaker 1: the timing works out for you there. Thanks for your time, Hains.
31:37
Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. Yeah, absolutely, thank you, Spencer. And
31:41
Speaker 1: that concludes that this week's episode of Where To Hunt's Radio.
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