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"Turnout Gear" (Thursday October 30, 2025, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that jerry mandering is a threat
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  Speaker 1: to our democracy. It allows politicians to pick their voters.
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  Speaker 2: First Thing Today by Joe Thomas on the Chunk Media Network,
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  Speaker 2: All natural and free of artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 3: Stuart said, steal me stem.
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  Speaker 4: You have a day at least for work.
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  Speaker 3: When the sun comes up, drops a pet.
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  Speaker 5: At the school.
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  Speaker 6: Joe has everything, a daenda, all the treasure needs no
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  Speaker 6: one that Joe's as smiled, he only as.
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  Speaker 3: Joe. Thank you for letting me be of service to
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  Speaker 3: you this morning. I want to be Joe, or we
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  Speaker 3: tell you what happened, and then we'll tell you how
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  Speaker 3: we see what happened. But mostly I like to hear
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  Speaker 3: about it, how it's impacting you where you are at
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  Speaker 3: four three four eight eight two four to two one seven.
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  Speaker 3: The boss at the Heritage founder, doctor Kevin Roberts, coming
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  Speaker 3: up with us in just a moment. So let's jump
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  Speaker 3: and tell you all of that. What went on stuff
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  Speaker 3: Our first things? First, President Trump, our and forty five meeting,
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  Speaker 3: A minute meeting with Chairman she of China, lifting restrictions
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  Speaker 3: on rare earth mineral exports, loosening farm trade and promising
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  Speaker 3: to do more to punish fentanyl dealers out of China.
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  Speaker 3: Has brought the President of the United States to lift
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  Speaker 3: ten percent off of the tariffs charged on that country,
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  Speaker 3: and he's being touted as saying more to come. He
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  Speaker 3: also said that he's called on the Department of War
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  Speaker 3: to immediately restart nuclear weapons testing. Pakistan is saber rattling
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  Speaker 3: after the peace talks between Afghanistan and their government failed
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  Speaker 3: and they have vowed to obliterate the Taliban. The Seventh
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  Speaker 3: Circuit Court of Appeals granted the Department of Justice requests
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  Speaker 3: to pause a lower court order or requiring the Operation
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  Speaker 3: Midway Blitz chief to check in with a judge every day,
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  Speaker 3: and Colorado is suing to keep space command there over
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  Speaker 3: the Huntsville, Alabama move and Steve Scali says the Republican
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  Speaker 3: House has some fixes for the funding of the Affordable
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  Speaker 3: Care Act. Dodtor Kevin Roberts from the Heritage Foundation is
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  Speaker 3: on with us. Don To Roberts, thank you for taking
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  Speaker 3: some time out with us. How are you doing, sir, Well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing well. It's wonderful to be with you.
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  Speaker 7: Joe.
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  Speaker 8: There are a lot of challenges in the country across
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  Speaker 8: the world, but there are also a lot of opportunities.
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  Speaker 8: As I like to remind people, and you know this, well,
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  Speaker 8: we're winning and we need to.
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  Speaker 7: Backlife it well.
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  Speaker 3: And that's where I think a lot of this mania
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  Speaker 3: comes from is and I made this case yesterday. I'm
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  Speaker 3: curious your thought all this redistricting mania that I haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen since the Jim Crow days. I mean, you want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Jim Crow two point zero. We're trying
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  Speaker 3: to district out entire swaths of a population from having
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  Speaker 3: any electoral voice. It all really, I think ties to
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  Speaker 3: the power of the Turning Point USA movement, because I
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  Speaker 3: truly believe the American Marxists believe that if they don't
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  Speaker 3: gain power now, by the time these kids that are
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  Speaker 3: in all these Turning Point USA chapters graduate and get
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  Speaker 3: out into the world, they could be facing seventy years
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  Speaker 3: of political irrelevancy in very quick order because of all
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  Speaker 3: these kids that are coming through Turning Point USA.
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  Speaker 7: I believe that's one hundred percent correct.
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  Speaker 8: At Heritage and especially at Heritage Action our campaign arm
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  Speaker 8: as you know, we do a lot of collaboration with
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  Speaker 8: Turning Point. We always have where we're perhaps going to
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  Speaker 8: be doing more of that in the near future, but
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  Speaker 8: even beyond the election cycles where we might be doing
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  Speaker 8: some work with them, there's a larger point to be made,
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  Speaker 8: and you just made it really well, and.
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  Speaker 7: It's more social, it's more cultural. And that is that
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  Speaker 7: the left which has got this.
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  Speaker 8: Really weird but also tragic coalition going on between the
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  Speaker 8: neo Marxists like AOC with the radical Islamists like.
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  Speaker 7: The soon to be mayor of New York, Mamdani.
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  Speaker 8: That's something that is so radical that I would like
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  Speaker 8: to think there will never be a time that very
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  Speaker 8: Americans would adhere to that, and so they've got to
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  Speaker 8: attempt to impose their will from their thought on the
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  Speaker 8: left right now. But contrast that with the positive, abuliant
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  Speaker 8: rally in Mississippi last night, that turning Point organized with
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  Speaker 8: Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow and Vice President J. D.
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  Speaker 7: Vance.
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  Speaker 8: This is something The tenor, the tone of those rallies,
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  Speaker 8: in addition to their size, very impressive ten thousand people,
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  Speaker 8: is the tenor and tone are really optimistic. They're aspiration
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  Speaker 8: about the American future. And I think that scares the
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  Speaker 8: daylight out of the left, because ultimately the political project
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  Speaker 8: of the left has only two things to it hate
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  Speaker 8: Donald Trump and divide the populace so that they can
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  Speaker 8: have power well.
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  Speaker 3: And that America in and of itself is a racist,
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  Speaker 3: inequitable society. I think is something that I can't even
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  Speaker 3: remember when I first noticed that that was their argument.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the Ibram Kendi anti racist school curriculums
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  Speaker 3: here in Charlottesville, the riots of twenty seventeen, this idea.
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  Speaker 3: And what's funny is they'll talk about Thomas Jefferson being
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  Speaker 3: a racist, but then you'll look at the very people
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  Speaker 3: who wrote the Permanent Reapportionment Act of nineteen twenty nine,
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  Speaker 3: and they were actual members of the Klan in some
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  Speaker 3: cases because they were afraid that if they didn't cap
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  Speaker 3: the size of the House of Representatives, the black population
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  Speaker 3: would continue to grow and continue to gain congressional power
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  Speaker 3: and weaken theirs. And yet we're told that Jefferson is
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  Speaker 3: the racist. I mean, that's where I really feel like
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  Speaker 3: I almost feel bad for the people who've been so
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  Speaker 3: gasolt into believing this stuff.
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  Speaker 8: No, it's true, and it offer just a sliver of
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  Speaker 8: optimism there. I'm still hopeful we operate with this this
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  Speaker 8: rationale at Heritage, as you know that maybe there are
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  Speaker 8: still some people on the left, on the center left who.
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  Speaker 7: Are open to persuasion.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's let's let's hope and pray, because the future
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  Speaker 8: of America would be good. But the point I wanted
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  Speaker 8: to make in response to your great observation there about
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  Speaker 8: the racism on the left is the irony that all
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  Speaker 8: of that revisionist history really accelerated at the exact same
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  Speaker 8: time that the country elected its first black president, Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 8: and politically, the tragedy beyond really terrible policy, is that
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  Speaker 8: as the first black president, he did more to harm
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  Speaker 2: From the home of the First Amendment. First thing today.
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  Speaker 3: I want to ask doctor Kevin roberts On with us
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  Speaker 3: from the Heritage Foundation where he is president, and please,
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  Speaker 3: almost almost more important than it's been since Russell Kirk
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  Speaker 3: and company, you know started Need Felner, the Heritage Foundation
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  Speaker 3: more important now than almost ever before in its history.
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  Speaker 3: Where we meet today, Kevin, so, I appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 3: I have floated a theory on what's going on in
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  Speaker 3: the I mentioned earlier, the Permanent Reapportionment Act, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and if you go back to nineteen thirty, which was
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  Speaker 3: the census right after it was enacted, and you say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: the population was one hundred and twenty two million. Then
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  Speaker 3: it's three hundred and forty million. Now, so even if
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  Speaker 3: you go back to that number, we would have three
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  Speaker 3: to almost three times as many congress.
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  Speaker 7: People as we did then.
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  Speaker 3: The original draft of the Bill of Rights, the very
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  Speaker 3: first thing that George Mason thought would be the most
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  Speaker 3: important thing to protect Americans from an out of control
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  Speaker 3: central government was congressional districts that didn't exceed fifty thousand people,
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  Speaker 3: which I know would mean six four hundred people in Congress.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that you would have a country that
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  Speaker 3: certainly wouldn't fall prey to this redistricting mania where we're
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  Speaker 3: watching people gerrymander districts in a fifty three forty seven
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  Speaker 3: state like Virginia into ten to one Democrat congress people.
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  Speaker 3: Is does that make any sense whatsoever? Or am I
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  Speaker 3: just a talk show host who may have had won
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  Speaker 3: too many cups of coffee?
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  Speaker 8: Now you make a hundred since, which is no surprise
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  Speaker 8: to me, Joe. In fact, my Heritage colleague Hans van Spocotski,
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  Speaker 8: who is one of the foremost election law experts, says
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  Speaker 8: that he's observed for years that your thesis is exactly correct.
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  Speaker 8: Let's just posit that what the country decided to do
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  Speaker 8: with the Voting Rights Act in the mid nineteen sixties
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  Speaker 8: was fair and important to correct what was indeed racial injustice.
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  Speaker 8: The time has come very context for your question. The
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  Speaker 8: time has come to realize, as the Supreme Court is
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  Speaker 8: considering now, that that served its purpose, but even worse,
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  Speaker 8: to the heart of your question, that law in others,
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  Speaker 8: particularly state laws and blue states, are being used as
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  Speaker 8: a cudgel by the radical left to accrue more political
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  Speaker 8: power illegitimately. And so the good news, the silver lining,
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  Speaker 8: and it's really legitimate in all of that, is that
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  Speaker 8: I think the Supreme Court is likely to at least
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  Speaker 8: partially overturn the Voting Rights Act soon, and then that
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  Speaker 8: gives us the opportunity on the political right not to
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  Speaker 8: do to the left what they have done to us,
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  Speaker 8: but instead to the great aspiration in your question, to
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  Speaker 8: actually do the will of the people in every state,
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  Speaker 8: to be fair and certainly to have honest elections, but
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  Speaker 8: most of all socially and culturally, to come back to
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  Speaker 8: that point that we're no longer dividing Americans along racial
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  Speaker 8: and ethnic lines.
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  Speaker 7: That is in our past, and we need to recognize it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's so important because recognizing that we're different and
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  Speaker 3: being okay with it is such an essential part of
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  Speaker 3: what makes America and why when people say, well, what's
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  Speaker 3: a conservative is conservative? Maga is a conservative means conserving
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  Speaker 3: the society, and that is so essential to the society.
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  Speaker 3: If we lose it, there's nothing left to conserve.
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  Speaker 8: That's so true, and this is why the left has
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  Speaker 8: been so zealous in taking over most of our institutions,
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  Speaker 8: are K twelve schools, our colleges and universities, and as
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  Speaker 8: we've talked about this morning, our politics and our elections,
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  Speaker 8: and so not only do we need to have the
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  Speaker 8: policy solutions for that, which I have been to think
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  Speaker 8: we do at Heritage, but we also have to convince
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  Speaker 8: our fellow Americans, wherever they are on the political spectrum,
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  Speaker 8: our neighbors, our friends, our family members who maybe don't
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  Speaker 8: follow politics as closely as you and me, that in
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  Speaker 8: order to achieve the American dream individually, but in order
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  Speaker 8: for this republic to be on a path toward a
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  Speaker 8: golden age, that we have to put all that divisiveness
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  Speaker 8: in the past, and not just our policies, but our
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  Speaker 8: own behavior and rhetoric have to exemplify that. And I'm
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  Speaker 8: just I lamit the following I'm not jabbing at the
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  Speaker 8: left when I say it. I just don't see a
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  Speaker 8: lot of aspirational rhetoric from the left right now. And
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  Speaker 8: I think the American people are going to hold them
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  Speaker 8: accountable to that in the next couple of election cycles.
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  Speaker 3: Doctor Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation President, with this morning first
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  Speaker 3: thing today, Well, and you bring this up, and I
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  Speaker 3: think some of it has to do with this idea
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  Speaker 3: that there's poverty, and I go back to the Great Society.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we just celebrated quote unquote sixty years of
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  Speaker 3: the Great Society. We have four times as many people
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  Speaker 3: living below the poverty line, which then allows the politicians
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  Speaker 3: who prey on reparations and you're poor, they're not really
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  Speaker 3: to a great degree. And I know you're a historian
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  Speaker 3: as well. A lot of what a lot of these
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  Speaker 3: Marxist movements, whether it be Germany in the thirties or
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  Speaker 3: Russia in the teens of the nineteenth of the twentieth
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  Speaker 3: century use is they pointed the middle class and say
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  Speaker 3: those are the rich guys, and the poor, having grown
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  Speaker 3: in such destitutions, say well, we're going to go get them,
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  Speaker 3: and the actual rich people are hiding out with the
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  Speaker 3: Marxists at the end of it, and we're watching it
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  Speaker 3: happen in real time, No, we are.
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  Speaker 8: And just think of how successful the left has been
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  Speaker 8: in marching three through the institutions over that century. And
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  Speaker 8: as my great colleague and friend at Heritage, Mike Gonzalez's
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  Speaker 8: track in his last couple of books, really the last
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  Speaker 8: several years in his career, the intellectual history, if you will,
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  Speaker 8: of Marxism, from the famous names of Marx himself and
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  Speaker 8: Lenin up to the modern neo Marxists, not just AOC
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  Speaker 8: and Congress, but perhaps even more importantly, the majority of
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  Speaker 8: American professors, at least in the arts and the liberal arts,
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  Speaker 8: somewhat at least adhere to that ideology. And at the
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  Speaker 8: base of that is dividing the populace first on economic
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  Speaker 16: We the people are guaranteed five freedoms in the First Amendment.
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  Speaker 16: Only the United States has these five freedoms. So simply
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  Speaker 6: No word in English language is less convincing than probably.
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  Speaker 5: Are you sure we should get matching tattoos on our
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  Speaker 10: Sure?
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  Speaker 2: We'll probably stay together.
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  Speaker 9: Probably, it's been twenty three minutes since I ate. I
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  Speaker 19: You should wait thirty minutes.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, I'll tell me what to do.
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  Speaker 4: Can it bar.
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  Speaker 15: Cramp?
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  Speaker 19: Oh?
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  Speaker 17: I can probably hit the green from here?
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  Speaker 2: Probably?
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  Speaker 7: Can I get a Mulligan.
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  Speaker 3: Ready to go?
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  Speaker 18: Hey?
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  Speaker 5: Are you sure you're okay to drive?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sober. Yeah, I'm probably okay.
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  Speaker 6: Probably okay isn't okay, especially when it comes to drinking
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely for you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today.
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  Speaker 7: That's not me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't wait on Yeah, with their Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 3: t shirts on and their living wage pins? What did
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  Speaker 3: the what did the girl call it? In Boston? The
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  Speaker 3: Q tips elderly Caucasian women all protesting were well, I
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  Speaker 3: guess virtue signaling happens, you know, And if you've ever
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  Speaker 3: been behind a seasoned citizen, I think is what Rush
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  Speaker 3: used to call us who have forgotten to turn their
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  Speaker 3: signal off. Well, societally they've forgotten to turn their virtue
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  Speaker 3: signal off as well. Thank you for letting me be
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  Speaker 3: of service to you on the program where we tell
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  Speaker 3: you what went on. I certainly will share with you
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  Speaker 3: how I see it, but I want to hear how
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  Speaker 3: you see it happening on your streets as well. Here
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  Speaker 3: quick points. You know Blue Colorado and that Trump's only
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  Speaker 3: moving space Force to Huntsville because he's being punitive over
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  Speaker 3: Jared Polis and the Democrats that run Colorado. Is Colorado
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  Speaker 3: any more of a blue state than Virginia? Virginia barely,
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  Speaker 3: And just by electoral results, Virginia is fifty three forty seven.
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  Speaker 3: But that's just how we've turned out to vote in
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  Speaker 3: elections that we struggle to get past fifty percent of
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  Speaker 3: the population. So how do you know for sure? Demographically?
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  Speaker 3: So Colorado in Jared Poulis's election in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 3: had a fifty eight percent voter turnout. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: again midterms, Biden administration, all of that still going on posts,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then we've got the hearings going on
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  Speaker 3: in prime time Hollywood for not so attractive people going
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  Speaker 3: on in the J six stuff. Still, they managed to
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  Speaker 3: pull fifty eight percent of the Colorado population out to vote,
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: which means Jared Polus, who got I think fifty six
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  Speaker 3: or so percent of the vote was voted in by
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: trying to do some extrapolative math here, maybe thirty percent
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  Speaker 3: of the population. So where's the other seventy percent? What
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  Speaker 3: are you not hearing? And this is where I think
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  Speaker 3: constitutional representation helps, because if you're closer to your congressional representative.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what it was, By the way, I did quickly
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  Speaker 3: check during the break. It is New Hampshire. They have
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  Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty four members of the New Hampshire
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  Speaker 3: just House, just the House of Representatives in New Hampshire's
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  Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty four people. That's three thousand citizens
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  Speaker 3: per representative. The United States is seven hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 3: thousand people per congressperson. This is what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 3: If you feel like you have a say, and yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 3: there are areas that might have a Republican congressman over
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  Speaker 3: what is you know, over an area that's particularly blue,
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  Speaker 3: because that happens too. I think of our flagship city
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  Speaker 3: of Charlottesville and Stanton both have Republican congressman the city council.
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  Speaker 3: Not so much in Stanton, but Harrisonburg. We've had horrific
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  Speaker 3: voter fraud happening at the behest of the university professors
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  Speaker 3: in Harrisonburg. Charlottesville as well, it's Charlottesville. But yet they
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  Speaker 3: have a Republican congressman. Why because the rest of this
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  Speaker 3: massive district is very red. Would my plan create a
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  Speaker 3: Democrat congressman for perhaps Harrisonburg or Charlottesville. Sure absolutely, that's
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  Speaker 3: how they've been voting. And if that's what they want,
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  Speaker 3: that's who should be representing them. This is why we're
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  Speaker 3: not hair on fire zealots like the left. Is I
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  Speaker 3: accept the fact that there are people who disagree with me.
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  Speaker 3: It's what does that opinion become dominion? So you think
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  Speaker 3: more people should help the poor, and you're going to
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  Speaker 3: dictate to me how I help the poor through taxation
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  Speaker 3: and regulation and that kind of thing. Is that what
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  Speaker 3: you want, because that's what the virtue signalers do. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, the national average in twenty twenty two for
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  Speaker 3: that big midterms, Biden's midterms forty six percent. So anyone
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  Speaker 3: who wins an election on average nationwide in a midterm
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  Speaker 3: and still midterms are not trifling. I mean, I've seen
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  Speaker 3: election turnouts that have gone down into the thirties some
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  Speaker 3: years for very specific local and statewide elections, into the
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  Speaker 3: high twenties. Think about that. You're allowing fifteen percent of
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  Speaker 3: the population to rule over the remainder. Now does it
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  Speaker 3: extrapolate out to larger number, Sure it can, But all
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  Speaker 3: I have proof of is that if there's forty percent
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  Speaker 3: voter turnout, then twenty one percent of the population gets
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  Speaker 3: to decide and if you drive down. This is why
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  Speaker 3: I talk about voter suppression, the gas lighting, voter suppression
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  Speaker 3: of saying, oh, you don't have any chance in New York,
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  Speaker 3: you don't have any I talk to Kevin Smith, Kevin
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  Speaker 3: Smith at the Long Island Loud Majority and some of
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  Speaker 3: these folks. We look at all these red counties just
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  Speaker 3: in New York State, or California or even Illinois. This
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  Speaker 3: is why JB. Pritzker wants to redistrict Illinois even though
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: they only have I think three Republicans, because they want
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  Speaker 3: to read district the House seats. They want to make
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  Speaker 3: sure that those red counties don't get uppity and all
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  Speaker 3: of a sudden elect somebody because it's easy to say, well, Joe,
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  Speaker 3: aren't there bigger things societal things, Yes, But to secure
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  Speaker 3: these rights, governments are instituted amongst men, deriving their just
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  Speaker 3: powers from the governed, period, full stop. We need to
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  Speaker 3: secure our rights. They don't give them to us, but
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  Speaker 3: they have to swear to protect them. And we need
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  Speaker 3: people who will do that. And as long as they
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  Speaker 3: continue to jerry mander in this way and stretch out
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  Speaker 3: these districts until they're unrecognizable. This is what we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get, right, Eric.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that jerrymandering is a threat to
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  Speaker 1: our democracy. It allows politicians to pick their voters as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to citizens choosing their representatives. But we are now
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  Speaker 1: in a situation where we find ourselves where authoritarian moves
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  Speaker 1: are being made by the White House through various states,
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  Speaker 1: Texas most prominent among them.
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  Speaker 3: And that's funny in that statement, because that was because
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  Speaker 3: of a court ruling. Eric used to be the Attorney general.
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  Speaker 3: You figured before that.
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  Speaker 1: And there has to be a response to that. What
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  Speaker 1: I've said is that we have to protect our democracy
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  Speaker 1: now if we ultimately want to be able to save it.
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  Speaker 3: So and so, this is what Julius Caesar said, this
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  Speaker 3: is what the World War One corporal said when he
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  Speaker 3: rose to the top of the Nationalist Socialist Party in
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  Speaker 3: Germany in the thirties as well. But for me and you,
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  Speaker 3: we must do it again tomorrow at five Eastern, Joe Thomas,
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  Speaker 3: so long and thanks for all the fish.
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