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The Impact of Recent Fires in Los Angeles on Health - Episode 279 · Gladden Longevity Podcast

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Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden Longevity Podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Jeffrey Gladden.
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And as always, we're here to answer big questions.
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How good can we be?
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How do we make 100 to the new 30?
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How do we live well beyond 120?
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How do we live young for a lifetime?
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And how do we develop a 300 year old mind?
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And today I'm going to be talking with Autumn Calabrese.
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Autumn is a client of ours and
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She's also going to be joining me as a co-host on a number of podcasts that we do.
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She's a very interesting woman who basically has a dance background, got into nutrition, fitness, hormone certifications, gut certifications, all related to her own health
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journey, if you will.
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She's worked for Beachbody and has been their number one super trainer.
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for some time now, actually, and she's developed a number of fitness and nutrition programs for them that have been very helpful to many people.
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She's also been on the E network.
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She's been part of TV shows.
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She's done a lot of different things.
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She lives in Los Angeles, and she's going to be coming on today to talk with us a little bit about the fires in L.A.
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and the impact that it's having on the city and the health of people around.
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her and also herself and her family.
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I think you're going to enjoy Autumn's perspective.
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She's very straightforward, very direct, and yet has a really big heart, really compassionate individual.
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And I think you're really going to enjoy this show.
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And I think you'll enjoy having Autumn on this show.
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And she'll be joining me in other shows as well.
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Not every single one, but certainly a number.
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And that'll be fun.
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enjoy the...
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Enjoy the conversation.
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Welcome everybody to this edition of the Gladden Longevity Podcast.
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I'm your host, Dr.
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Jeffrey Gladden, and I'm here with my new co-host, Autumn Calabresi.
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Autumn, great to have you here.
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How you doing?
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Hi Dr.
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Gladden, I'm doing great and it's so great to be here with you.
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Thank you for having me.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So I don't know if the audience knows, but you live in Los Angeles and you've been working with the Beachbody company for quite some time.
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When do you, in your own words, give people a little bit of an idea of kind of your relationship to health and fitness, just so they have a little feel for that?
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Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've grown up always interested in health and wellness and fitness.
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I was a competitive dancer growing up.
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And so even in the dance world, I was really blessed to have teachers that talked about proper nutrition to fool our bodies, which I know not everybody was always blessed with.
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And there's a lot that comes in the dance community with.
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you think about dancers, you think a lot about actually eating disorders almost, right?
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I mean, I don't know what kind of what kind of dance were you doing?
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Was it ballet or or?
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every jazz, ballet, tap, modern, but my strong suit was jazz.
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But I definitely was in ballet classes as well.
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yeah, yeah, exactly.
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When you think of dance and competitive dance or professional dancers, you do think about the fact that that community tends to struggle with disordered eating quite a bit.
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And I was really lucky to have teachers that spoke of proper nutrition.
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all the time, but I also grew up with an Italian dad who had Italian restaurants eating Italian food and pizza and pasta and subs.
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So I feel like I was always trying to learn about taking care of my body.
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And I went on to major in dance in college and started to learn anatomy and physiology.
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Went on to get certified as a personal trainer.
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been doing that for 20 plus years, but even in my years of personal training, what I realized was no matter how hard we were exercising, if we weren't addressing nutrition, we
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weren't making the progress.
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So I started to learn and get certified in different areas of nutrition.
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I've gone on to get a hormone health certification, a gut health certification, a holistic health coach certification, all through the Integrative Institute of Nutrition, because it
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all works together.
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what this is telling me is that you have a real passion, not just for fitness per se, but really, you know, kind of helping to answer the questions that we ask.
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How good can you be?
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Right?
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Like how good can we make this?
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How healthy can we make the clients that we're serving?
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Right.
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And that's kind of a cool question to be asking.
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So, you know, when we think about Los Angeles and I've got friends in Los Angeles, you're being one, but I other friends in Los Angeles.
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College roommate actually lives in Altadena and his house was recently damaged but not destroyed by the fire.
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Although I guess you can question whether or not it's going to be movable or he'll be able to move back into it in any reasonable period of time.
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But anyway, you're out there in LA and we recently had those horrendous fires in the Palisades and I think you live a little bit south of there if I'm not mistaken.
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But tell us a little bit about what's going on in LA.
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Yeah, I'm not too far from it.
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I'm probably about 12 miles from where the Palisades fire was.
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But then obviously we had the Altadena fire going at the same time.
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And then we had the we had one other fire that burned actually quite close to me that actually ended up causing evacuations for me power down for several days.
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Yeah, when the evacuation
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Where did you go?
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Where did you end up going?
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My ex-husband who lives not far from me was just outside of the evacuation zone.
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So that's where we went first because by the time I was evacuated the Palisades fires had already been going on for several days and so many of those people There there wasn't a
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hotel available for hundreds of miles.
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So I got out of my house, you know with what we needed obviously, thank goodness everything ended up being okay, but
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When that evacuation order came in, when that fire kicked up, I stepped out my front door and it looked like the apocalypse.
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Like just the clouds of black smoke, the planes, the water drop planes flying over the helicopters.
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And, you know, 24 days, the Palisades fire burned.
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it's, we lost an entire city.
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We lost multiple cities, obviously, with three fires going on at the same time.
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It's almost hard to imagine that unless you're kind of right in it.
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I mean, we saw the pictures, right?
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And I was in Texas or a little bit in Puerto Rico, maybe for part of it.
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But, um, I mean, the pictures just looked unbelievable.
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And, um, you know, I had friends that had homes in the Palisades as well that lost, that lost their homes.
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One of the guys is, uh, who's been on the podcast, actually Shelley Jordan, Dr.
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Shelley Jordan, who's a neurologist, uh, works at UCLA doing some really interesting longevity stuff.
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said,
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I lost a house, but I made a lot of friends.
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And so, which was interesting.
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So I'm curious, did you have a sense of community, sort of the community kind of coming together around stuff like this?
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Is that kind of what happened for you?
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for sure.
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I used to live in the Palisades.
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I spent several years there.
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That's actually where I started my personal training career was in the Palisades.
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losing it, knowing so many people that lived there, very, very emotional and hard to process that an entire city was gone.
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For me, I am definitely somebody who just likes to help.
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So immediately it was, I was going to the shelters.
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What can I bring?
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What can we donate?
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I took up a collection.
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And I allowed my followers to also be able to help.
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So I put up an Amazon list where people could buy and have the stuff come to me.
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And I went and then delivered it to multiple shelters, got my son involved because I wanted him to understand the importance of, hey, look, when stuff like this happens, we
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spring into action.
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Like, this is when we need to come together.
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So it was beautiful to watch people come together.
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but it's also heartbreaking to see what so many people had to experience.
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Yeah.
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And quite honestly, there's still experience in it, right?
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mean, even though the, even though the fires have been put out, the rains have come, you know, all that sort of thing.
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the aftermath, kind of the psychological trauma, I would imagine that there's a lot of people seeking counseling, of some sort, right?
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To kind of deal with loss and deal with the trauma of it all.
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I would think that's going on.
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Yeah.
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I would, yeah, I would think for sure there's, mean, I know several people, like I said, that unfortunately lost everything and, you know, they go through stages of grief.
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The first thing is sort of that shock and then, you know, anger, frustration, like what, you know, what happened, but also trying to figure out what is my next move?
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What is the next step?
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Rebuilding, am I gonna rebuild?
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Am I moving my family?
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Kids are in school.
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So there's definitely a lot of...
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a lot of trauma that comes with it.
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And it's really interesting to watch what's happening in our city because obviously we're getting rains now, so we're getting mudslides.
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We've been getting quite a bit of earthquake activity the last several days.
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So in Malibu, so same area, two of our major roads, the Pacific Coast Highway is still not open to through traffic.
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And then,
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Topanga Canyon, those are two things that people will take to avoid the highways.
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With both of those closed down, the traffic alone is, mean, commute.
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So how much more time we're spending in traffic, how much more time we're spending sitting.
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I had to go to Beverly Hills the other day at 17 miles from my house.
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It took two hours.
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wow.
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Yeah, that's, mean, LA traffic is, is pretty unbelievable.
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I remember being in LA, driving around at 11 o'clock at night one time on a, I don't know if it was a Thursday night or something, but it was bumper to bumper at 11 o'clock at
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night.
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That's like, that was without the fire.
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So I can only imagine how crazy it is now.
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But you know, there's, there's also a lot of health consequences there.
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So did you start to, you know, one of the things that's unusual about this fire is it's not like a forest fire, right?
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It's, it's you're burning.
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a lot more than trees and certainly forest fires, you know, throw off a lot of soot and a lot of toxins, so to speak.
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But when you're burning car batteries and electrical transformers and, know, everything's kind of going up tires and everything else, you're really inundated with a ton of, a ton
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of toxins in the air and it sort of pollutes, you know, the water runoff, the oceans, all that kind of stuff.
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So what's, what, what's been the sense, for you around, you know, how to deal with some of that.
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Yeah, that's been one that has been weighing on me incredibly heavy because I started to notice things for myself and my son probably within the first week and a half.
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Cause you know, you've got textiles, you've got cleaning products, like so many, I would think we had over 6,000 structures burn and then like you said, cars and all of that.
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One of the biggest things I noticed for me right away was actually my nose.
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I was waking up.
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Like I was having a really hard time breathing at night.
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I still am waking up with very I'm gonna be descriptive and sorry if it's gross but very dry thick Congestion mucus yeah that very sticky green and I'm not sick and I haven't been
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sick But it is still there every single morning.
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My son has been struggling quite a bit with his sinuses and congestion In fact, he just came in right now and asked me if he could take a clarotin
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because he took one last night because he's having trouble sleeping and I'm like, we can't, but you know, I'm doing everything that we can do to try to help with the
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detoxification, with the air purification.
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So there's four different Jasper air purifiers in my house, in our bedrooms, in our main living areas, you know, making sure I'm in for red sauna.
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go outside?
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I understand a lot of people are wearing masks and things.
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Is that something you're doing as well or how do you think about that?
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I haven't been wearing a mask outside.
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What I have been doing is not going outside as much.
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So like, I love to walk and I usually walk my neighborhood two to three miles every day.
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I'm not doing that right now.
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I'm keeping my walks inside on the treadmill with the air purifier going.
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I mean, you could probably speak better on this.
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I've read a lot of science in both directions on masks and when you're wearing it and how much more of your own carbon binoxide you're breathing back in and things like that.
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So for me, I didn't really want to be walking around in the mask.
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I just am trying to be more aware of the time I'm spending outside the air quality, you know, little bit better after it rains.
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But still, this is something we're going to be dealing with.
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Even the cleanup, you know, we're dealing with the cleanup that's going to take months, if not years.
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They're talking about
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using the Calabasas landfill, which is not too far from my house at all, as a place to drop quite a bit of the Palisades fire debris.
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And, you know, people in this area are having a very hard, yeah, because, you know, every time you move that stuff, you're kicking all that debris back into the air.
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so we people sort of think, OK, the fires are out.
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It's over.
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But it's so far from over.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, my friend saw him that it was in, Alta Dina that was damaged.
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think he had some, some roof damage and offense, damage and maybe a few other things.
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You know, they're talking about cleaning these, these structures, right?
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To be able to move back into them.
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And I'm like, my gosh, I don't, I don't know that I ever want to move back into that structure, right?
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Because it's hard to ever get.
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all of those chemicals out of there.
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mean, imagine you have a fine dust that just kind of permeates everything.
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Like, I don't know, I don't know if you can clean well enough, right?
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The insulation and everything else that's in a home to actually get all that stuff out.
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So it's really, it's really kind of a sad scenario.
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I guess your home wasn't damaged directly.
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Do you feel like there's a need to kind of clean your own, your own home or that sort of thing?
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Or do you feel pretty good about it?
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It wasn't damaged directly.
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And like I said, we were 12 miles with the air, like the wind usually blowing more towards the ocean instead of in my direction, which is probably why it didn't come closer to me.
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So I haven't felt a need for exhaustive cleaning.
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I I clean the house every week.
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I use only...
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really good quality cleaning products that don't have chemicals in them.
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Everything is non-toxic.
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Like I said, I put the air purifiers in.
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I have hardwood floors.
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I don't have carpets.
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I actually just bought this mini vacuum and kind of got influenced, but a mini vacuum that helps you like vacuum your bed and your sofas to try to just get the excess out of there.
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So I'm not seeing a whole lot in that aspect.
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I do change my
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air filters in the house just from the HVAC system.
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I usually change those every six months.
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I might take that to every three for a while just to make sure that everything is moving a little more, a little more.
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But I think one of the things that is interesting to me is the water quality.
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Like,
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know, talk to us about that because you do even drink city water there or how does that work?
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I don't, I have a special knob on my sink that's filtered water.
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So I'm getting that's pretty high quality filtered water, but then you start to think, okay, I don't drink it, but I shower in it.
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I wash my dishes in it when I run the dishwasher.
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So I wash my clothes in it.
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What, you know, how bad is it?
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It's, it's, you know, and that's one of the things that I don't really know.
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I don't really know just how bad it is.
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know certain areas, the palisades, Altadena, like definitely had alerts where it was do not drink.
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So it is, it's just things that we have to be aware of.
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yeah, it's ubiquitous, right?
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I mean, that's the problem with something like this.
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It becomes ubiquitous.
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It's impossible to escape it.
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And that's the, that's the scenario we're talking about.
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So, you know, I was just looking at some of the toxins that come out of a fire like this.
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have fine particulate matter, of course.
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Interesting thing, can cause lung inflammation, cardiovascular issues.
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It can worsen asthma, respiratory diseases.
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It's cleared by the lungs and typically a matter of weeks, but it does take weeks.
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And chronic exposure, if you keep getting it, like if they're going to do this landfill close to you, you know, can even cause long-term damage.
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And then you've got these volatile organic compounds, right?
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These toxic gases that come from, you know, burning all these different substances.
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And that can stay in your body for hours to days.
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So...
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That's pretty tricky.
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A lot of people have headaches, ear and eye irritation, or eye and nose rather, irritation, nausea, fatigue, dizziness.
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And then you've got metals, lead, mercury, arsenic, cadmium that come out of these buildings too.
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And some of the metals like arsenic can clear in a few days, but others like lead and cadmium can persist for years, right?
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So, you know, I think one of the things
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would be to potentially do some testing to kind of see how much oxidative stress your body's under.
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Do you have higher levels of minerals and environmental toxins than you ordinarily would have?
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There's testing that can be done for that.
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But to your point about the symptoms, there's respiratory symptoms here.
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This dry nose congestion, this thick, sticky mucus, shortness of breath, things like that.
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That's very common here.
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And it's pretty, pretty...
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ubiquitous.
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think most people are probably experiencing something from that.
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I was just going to add to that that, you know, there's some genetics that really kind of dictate how well we're able to detox.
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And there's a company called Intel X DNA.
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It was started by two women in Austin, Texas.
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It's Intel XX as in XX chromosome.
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And one of their panels is a detox panel basically.
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And there are a number of different genes that actually impact our ability to detox from something like this.
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So some people will be much more affected by this and other people much less affected by it.
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But one of the things that shows up over and over again in the panel as helping these genes, these detox genes to work better is something called sulforaphane, which you may
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have heard of sulforaphane because it's in pretty high concentrations in broccoli.
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It's even higher concentrations in broccoli sprouts and even higher concentrations in broccoli seeds.
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And there's a product called Abmacol, Abmacol Extra that's basically sulforaphane.
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It's combined with an enzyme called Myrinase that actually activates the sulforaphane.
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And that's maybe one of the best things that you can take to help up-regulate the genes that actually cause detox.
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Another thing that's really helpful is to boost your NAD levels.
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Right?
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So this is not like getting NAD IVs, but it's using products like Vitality that actually can boost NAD levels in the blood.
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And if you combine it with something like Apigenin, which blocks the degradation of NAD, you can have higher NAD levels, which help you detox as well.
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And then hydrogen water is super helpful because it upregulates all of your oxidative stress molecules.
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So the way it works is you have a toxin, the toxin's causing inflammation, the inflammation's associated with oxidative stress, the oxidative stress is damaging your
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cells.
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So when you're thinking about how am gonna deal with this, obviously you wanna block the intake, but the stuff you do take in, you've gotta be working across those different
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layers, right?
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So you wanna be taking care of the oxidative stress as well as the inflammation, right?
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And so super important to do that.
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And then glutathione genes are in there, right?
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So taking things that boost glutathione like N-acetylcysteine and glycine help people to do that.
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So anyway, those are some of the things that really, you know, kind of jump out.
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There are many other things that can be done.
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You know, you can use zeolite to help you bind up toxins in your gut, to get rid of things.
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And then, you know, I think saunas are a good way to detox.
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We use saunas to, you know, great efficacy with people that have heavy metal toxicity, combination of using something called metal free in the gut to help pull it out through
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the gut.
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But sitting in the sauna, we've been able to lower people's mercury levels and lead levels dramatically.
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So if you have access to a sauna, it would be a good time to kind of jump into that.
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I don't know if that's anything that you have been doing or have access to.
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there anything, any of those things that resonate?
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I mean, obviously from working with you for the last several years, Avmikol I've been taking, NAD, glutathione.
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I know I'm lucky I have an infrared at my house.
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I actually purchased one, believe it or not, like they are pricey, but for what I do, I purchased it during lockdown when I was in development of another fitness program and I
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wasn't able to go anywhere for any kind of self-care, but I really needed some extra self-care.
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I am one of those people that has a genetic predisposition to having a harder time of detoxing.
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And when we realized that in my genetics, it was like, okay, I've had heavy metal poisoning a few times now.
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And it's, you I always say like, what am I doing?
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I'm not eating the fish, you know, or I'm doing all the things, but my body tends to have a harder time.
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So I definitely try.
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to do all those extra things.
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I use the molecular hydrogen.
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The other thing I noticed is I've been more dehydrated lately, which is crazy because I'm 70, 80 ounces of water a day.
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I actually ended up calling and getting an IV the other day, like last week, because I just was like, I can tell I'm so dehydrated and I had done some blood work and it came
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back same thing that I was dehydrated, which didn't really make sense.
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actually run through more water, so to speak, right?
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There's more coming out in the urine, the stool, everything else, right?
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So it doesn't even mean you have diarrhea per se, but it just means that your body's using that water to process all those toxins.
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So yeah, and getting a good number of electrolytes is helpful also, right?
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Have you noticed a difference in your ability to work out?
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Has it impacted you there as well?
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think just sometimes, a little bit, yes, because when it's harder to breathe, especially when you're trying to sleep, you don't get as good of a night of sleep, which means then
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you don't have the same amount of energy.
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So I have noticed some things, and I will also say this, it's interesting, because I'm 44, almost 45, so I'm perimenopause menopause.
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I feel really good for the most part, but...
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I've noticed a little more aches in my joints, which could just be hormones, you know, fluctuating and doing their things.
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But everything was really solid.
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And then we had the fires and I've had some hot flashes.
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Not, not like I had consistently before I balanced blood sugar and insulin and things like that, but just little things that make me go, huh, everything was pretty stable.
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Then we had these fires.
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I definitely have some things going on.
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and I'm recognizing other symptoms happening.
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So I know I'm a person who's very in tune with my body.
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I have spent years and I pay attention.
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So when I get a signal, I'm going, I'm not just trying to squash the signal, I'm trying to understand what is causing the signal.
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And then what can I do to help improve it?
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Yeah.
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I think when you're exposed to a lot of toxins like that, it does increase this, you know, sort of systemic or body wide inflammation.
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Right.
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And so it can show up in your joints, your eyes, you know, anything, right to your lungs, your throat.
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So, yeah.
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So it's important for people to understand.
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And I think not to ignore this stuff.
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I would be doing the detox protocols.
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You know, one of the other things I was thinking about with, congestion and nasal sinuses, we had a woman here from Canada, last week who came down from Calgary, who
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has been living in a home that has mold in it and she's been unable to get better and they've done some remediation there but her husband loves his home.
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It has a beautiful view apparently of the mountains and doesn't want to leave this home and I'm like well you know I mean she's struggling, her son is struggling, as like maybe
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we need to remediate the home a little bit further but in the meantime what we did for her was we gave her ozone, an e-boot.
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So we did an Ibu treatment, which filters the blood of toxins and including mold toxins and ozonates the blood, which improves the NAD to NADH ratio.
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So you actually have more NAD.
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And then we actually did ozone gas insufflation into her sinuses to help clear them out and help clear out the mold.
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And so that can actually be very salutary and effective at, sort of detoxing the sinuses.
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So for people that are struggling with that, if you have access to a practitioner that has some ozone.
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or e-boo or that sort of thing.
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That can also be another nice ad for you.
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She left here feeling great.
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Like she hadn't felt this good in a long time, right?
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So those things can be super helpful.
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Would that also, I'm just curious, the 10 pass that we've done on me with ozone for blood, would that be something that would help as well?
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It does.
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I think in this case, when you've got so many toxins doing the ebu, the E-B-O-O is how that's spelled ebu.
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If you can find somebody that has ebu close to you, you know, that has a filtration process.
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And what we've noticed for people with mold is that we can take down their mold titers.
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It doesn't, it doesn't all go away in a single therapy.
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But if you do like two or three or four of them,
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you can get people to come way down and it seems to take out other toxins as well.
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So, and the ozonation is great because it improves energy for people.
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And a lot of times when you're suffering with inflammation or toxin exposure, one of the first things to go is your energy is just kind of, you know, it's kind of mitigated,
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right?
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It's just like, don't feel, just don't feel myself or whatever.
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And when you boost that NAD to NADH ratio, like I said, when you oxidize,
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Ozone is an oxidative stress, right?
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It's like exercise.
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Exercise is little bit of an oxidative stress.
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This is a therapeutic oxidative stress too.
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It improves that to where all of a sudden you've got energy again and that helps your body detox faster, right?
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Because you need ATP not only to do all the normal functions, but also detoxing takes a lot of energy and that's kind of why you feel fatigued.
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So those are, know, that when I was talking about the Vitality Plus that we use that powder along with the Apigenin,
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That's very important to keep your NAD levels up so you have the energy to actually do what you need to do.
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Yeah, I loved it when we did the 10 past the ozone on me.
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I remember sitting there and while we were doing it, I could feel myself becoming more alert, waking up.
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It was really incredible.
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And I do know we have facilities here in LA that do the Ibu.
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And actually it's something I was looking into.
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So it might be something I need to go try for this process.
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And if they have eBooth and if they have ozone, they might be able to help you with their sinuses too.
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You can't breathe ozone in, right?
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Because it's, it's toxic to the lungs, but, but there are ozone saunas out there also, right?
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A hot kit is one and you can sit in it with your head out and it's, it's hot steam.
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And then ozone is ozone gases put into the steam.
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now you're, you're taking those ozonoids through your skin.
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and getting the same effect that you would from a 10 pass, except you don't have to have an IV.
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just as people are listening to this, wondering, well, geez, what can I do?
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Well, these are some things you can do to kind of really move the needle, if you will.
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So yeah, cool.
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Let me ask, if you don't mind me asking a question, so I know, so many people are gonna be listening and we've sort of talked about a wide variety of things, especially being at
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different price ranges.
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What would be the good, better, best if we were looking to really detox ourselves?
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First,
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Yeah, I think the good, better, best, the good would be, you know, pick up some hydrogen, pick up some so for a fame, some admin call with my Renee's pick up some anesthetics,
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assisting to help you make glutathione.
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I think doing what you're doing, you know, with an air purifier, staying away from toxic things.
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If you're super sensitive, I would probably wear a mask if you're going to be around this stuff.
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If you're not, then I wouldn't wear the mask.
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I think it's really important though to maintain physical activity in all of this, right?
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So you don't want to give up on your exercise, but you may have to exercise at a lower level.
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So that would be the good.
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I think the better would be, okay, I'm going to actually up my ante a little bit more.
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So now I'm going to take the supplements, but now I'm going to maybe go do an Ibu and get some of this stuff out of my system.
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Maybe I do that.
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you know, every couple of weeks or something like that.
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And then maybe do some of the ozone insufflation.
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I think the best would be to say, okay, I'm going to get my genetics tested.
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I'm going to actually see how well I do detox and what I detox better than other things.
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Right.
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Am I, am I more susceptible to the organic toxins or am I more susceptible to the heavy metal toxins?
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Because then you can fine tune your supplementation based on, on your genetics.
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And that's really, you know, how you do a good job.
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Then from there, think you would buy a sauna and put it in your home, right?
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There are infrared saunas that work very well.
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So this would be best.
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Then you're also doing the supplementation.
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You're also doing the hydrogen.
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You're also doing the intermittent ozone.
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And I think that's probably how I would graduate that.
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Yeah, but for sure.
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how long should somebody do it for, right?
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Like we're here, we're experiencing it, we don't really know how long we're gonna...
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Yeah.
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So if it's a, if let's say it's a one-time exposure, uh, let's say you flew to LA and the fire broke out and you were stuck in a hotel there and you got exposed, but you left and
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you came back to, wherever you are, went back to wherever you're from.
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You know, what I would do also in the best categories, I would get lab tests done and be measured for toxin levels, right?
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Because you could see that.
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then, um,
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You know, some of those things like metals can take a while.
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Some of the, some of the other things are more short lived.
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So you could actually track it and say over three months, I'm going to actually make significant improvements.
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And, and I think if you're really diligent about it and you're outside of the exposure zone, you could probably detox really quite dramatically in, you know, eight weeks, 12
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weeks, something like that.
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I think if you're in the zone where you're constantly being re-exposed, that's another, that's another story.
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Right.
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I think.
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I think, you know, I talked with my, with my good friend, my, it's my college roommate for four years, right?
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We know each other extremely well, right?
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He lives there in Alta Dena and it's like, are you going to leave?
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You know, I mean, you know, he's got family in Colorado.
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He's got family in other places, right?
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So it's like, are you going to leave?
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And he ended up staying once to stay, because he has so much community there.
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And I totally get that, right?
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He's lived there for a long time, ever since college and.
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It's hard to leave community behind and yet sometimes there are hard decisions to be made.
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Like I think this is really going to damage my health if I stay around here.
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And so I think this is where, you know your levels and you know your genetics and you know what you're susceptible to, it's like, this just isn't the place for me, right?
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Maybe this was for a season, but now, now it's a different season and it's time to move on.
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I think one of the key things for humans that we always have to do is to be willing to adapt.
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Right.
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And we're so, we're so used to getting comfortable in a particular setting.
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Like I love California.
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I love the mountains.
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I love the ocean.
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I love this.
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It's like, how could I ever leave?
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Well, if there's a big enough earthquake, you will probably leave, right?
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If there's a big enough disaster, you will probably leave.
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So the question is, what's my threshold for leaving?
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And, and, you know, it's true here, right?
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I mean, if there's big tornadoes that come through in Texas or whatever, am I going to stay here?
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I don't know.
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You know?
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So I think, um,
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I think it's really important to have an adaptable mindset and not be married to a location, right?
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And you can, you can find community wherever you go, right?
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I have community around the country.
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I'm sure you do too.
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And so, I think it's really important not to feel like I'm fated to always be here because that's not the case.
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You can, there, you know, it's difficult, but you can pick up and go, right?
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So people do it all the time.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that is a big one.
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And I've seen a lot of people talking about it.
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There's a another girl who's very into longevity has a clinic and things like that.
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And her and she's here in LA and her and her husband are in their season of life where they're getting ready to conceive.
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And she has been very vocal about talking about her toxic load, measuring it, sharing it on social what's going on and, whether or not they're going to say they've only been here
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a couple years, but she is
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very highly considering leaving California because of the toxic load and trying to conceive and what that would mean.
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Sure.
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I mean, there's many reasons to go.
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I think that's one good reason to really think hard about it.
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I think another is if you have a child that's really susceptible in some way, right?
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Are you really going to have them grow up in that scenario where it's really kind of damaging to them?
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Certainly if you have young children, right, where their brains are still developing and everything, and they're susceptible, is that something you really want to do?
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So I think it's really important to think hard about this stuff.
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You know, I don't know.
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It's difficult to move, man, I don't know.
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would be thinking about it.
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If I was in LA, I would be gone.
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My daughter was in LA and I moved her out of LA to New York in September of last year.
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And I had a premonition that it was time for her to go.
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I couldn't put my finger on it, but I had a premonition it's time for her to go.
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her...
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her aunt and uncle had a home in the Palisades, right?
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She has a cousin out there, right?
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And her mom has had a home in the Palisades also.
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So a rental home, but it's like, no, I just feel like it's time for her to go.
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And she's so much happier in New York, it's a better fit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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But I also feel glad she's not out there being exposed to all the toxins, right?
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So.
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When you think about your family and your kids, it's not just about you either.
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It's about, you know, what environment am I going to allow my kids to experience?
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Right.
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So it's, it's a thing.
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Yeah.
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I have one other question for you since we're talking through all this.
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You mentioned trauma at the beginning.
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And I remember when you and I first started working together, we got on our very first initial call for you to say, Autumn, what are you looking for?
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What do you need help with?
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And one of the first questions you were asking me about was actually childhood trauma.
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And you were asking me like, what kind of levels of trauma have I experienced?
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And I thought it was really interesting at the time because I have actually experienced.
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quite a bit of emotional trauma in my life, but I had never been asked that question by a doctor, maybe a therapist, but not a doctor.
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And I remember thinking to myself, like, that's interesting.
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I wonder where he's going with this.
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And obviously we started looking when we started doing my genetics and how I handle stress.
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And that has been one of the things I've talked about it quite a bit with women's hormone health that unless we manage our stress and our trauma and really learn how to process it,
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We can take all the supplements and we can eat all the healthy things, but we're not, we're going to be missing a piece of the puzzle.
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So here we are with this massive trauma.
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How is this, how could it affect us?
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And what can we do?
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It's a great, it's a great point.
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I'm really glad you brought this up.
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you know, my glad longevity and I'll just refresh the audience's memory here, or maybe introduce it for the first time.
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You know, we work really around five different circles.
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The first circle is life energy.
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And that really has to do with the psycho spiritual space.
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And to me, that's actually the circle that binds all the other circles together.
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Because if we're not psychospiritually aligned, right, if we haven't gone back and actually analyzed the trauma, and I've never met anybody that hasn't suffered trauma.
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I mean, I can't name one person that hasn't suffered trauma.
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So, you know, if you go back and you actually really think about, we've all suffered trauma, we all end up living in reaction to that trauma, and now we're basically making
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decisions living in reaction to trauma.
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And I really feel like it's one of our goals in life to become our unencumbered selves, where we're no longer encumbered by living in reaction to that trauma.
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And when you, when you're able to get to that unencumbered place, it's like, Oh my gosh, it's like a breath of fresh air.
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like standing on a mountain top.
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like, where do we want to go today?
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We can do this and we can do that.
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It's like, Oh my gosh, I feel liberated, right?
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In an amazing way.
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But to get to that point.
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It's really, really important to do justice to the trauma.
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You have to really understand what actually happened.
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Who did what to who?
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What was my contribution?
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What was their contribution?
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How was I impacted?
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How did I potentially impact them?
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And eventually we can get to a point where we forgive all the parties involved, ourselves included, right?
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We forgive all the parties.
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And that begins the healing process.
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And when you're able to heal the trauma.
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then you actually can move to the next stage where you actually through more counseling therapy, in some cases even psychedelic experiences, you can get to a point where you
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actually transcend the trauma.
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And now you actually become grateful for everything that ever happened because it's been your path to bring you to this point, to where we're on this podcast together, talking
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about these things and sharing it, right?
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And so when you enter that transcendent space,
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Now you're just grateful for everything.
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And that's such a beautiful place to live.
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You're no longer living in reaction.
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You're no longer have resentment.
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You no longer feel shame or guilt.
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It's just, no, this is where I'm supposed to be, right?
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And so that unencumbered space, my gosh, it's incredibly liberating.
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And it lowers stress in the body dramatically to the point where you can be really healthy.
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So at Glad Longevity, we...
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we actually can measure the stress inside somebody's body.
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We didn't do this when you first came to see us, but we can do it now.
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We can hook people up to a machine and it will actually show us the stress inside their systems.
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Even though they feel fine, we can see it and it's really, really revealing.
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And so now we actually work with a woman, actually full disclosure, my partner, Mukti Devi, who basically is a...
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has a master's in psychology, but also spent five years in India in an ashram.
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She's done all kinds of spiritual things.
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She's doing a fellowship in psychedelic assisted therapies.
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And she really is wonderful for people to talk to because she can really help people start to process this.
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And this is the path because when you solve trauma and you heal trauma and you transcend trauma, and now you become your unencumbered self.
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my gosh, we see stress come out of the system dramatically and we can measure that progress too.
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So it's super, super interesting work.
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And I find that's really clearly one of the most important things we do for people because to your point, nobody else brings it up.
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No longevity clinic brings it up.
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It's all about your hormones and your biology and your NAD levels and whatever else, but really it's that psycho spiritual space that defines everything else.
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So yeah, super cool.
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so people are now dealing with, know, there isn't really anybody to forgive.
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It was a natural disaster.
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They have the trauma of they lost everything, right?
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Do they go talk to somebody?
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Do they?
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Yeah, it's a safety question, right?
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So in my life energy circle, if people want to want to look in the book, 100 is the New 30, I talk about this.
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And in the circle, there's there's about a dozen different points.
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And we probably don't maybe you and I in a future podcast will go through the whole circle.
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But one of the one of the points on the circle is feeling safe.
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And I think one of the things that really catches people up is that they don't feel safe, right?
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They're worried, they're stressed.
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And I think that all worry, stress, fear, anxiety, even to some extent, depression and greed are a function of not feeling safe.
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And so one of the realizations that I had was that nothing external to us can ever make us feel safe, right?
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There's no amount of money.
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There's no place you live, no family you have, no education you got, no...
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following that you have, know, no whatever, that can ultimately make you feel safe because everything can be taken away.
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And history has shown us that, and this fire just showed us that.
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Everything can be taken away.
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And yet people survived with their lives, right?
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And so ultimately to feel safe becomes really a psycho-spiritual question.
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How do I actually feel safe, feel loved, right?
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when everything's been taken away.
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And when you solve that equation, and that's something we help people with as well, when you solve that equation, now you're truly unencumbered.
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Now you're free to suffer the, what I call the vicissitudes of life, right?
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The ups and downs of life, if you will, and not really be impacted.
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And that's a wonderful place to be.
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Now you really have equilibrium and transcendence.
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Now...
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Now you're living on a completely different plane.
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And I think that's really the aspiration.
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You know, for us, it's when we're a hundred, to have a 30 year old body and a 300 year old mind.
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That's what we're going for.
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So how do you develop that 300 year old mind?
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Well, you have to, you have to dive into this life energy circle.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, definitely probably something that's hard to do in the moment, obviously, like, you know, to say, where is the silver lining?
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That is something I know personally, I've worked on where I've been able to, it's taken a lot of mental work, a lot of emotional work, to when something gets really hard, I let
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myself feel the hard and I let myself acknowledge how hard it is.
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But I also try to constantly remind myself.
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There's a silver lining.
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There's a life lesson.
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It might take days, weeks, months, or years for me to understand what it is, but at some point I'm gonna understand why I had to go through this and I'll be able to know that
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like, and have gratitude for it.
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So let me try to have gratitude for it now and acknowledge what do I need to learn?
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What is the universe pushing me to discover?
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I did that with my gut health journey.
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remember thinking to myself, like, why me?
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Because when I was in the thick of my gut health journey, it was pretty bad.
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Like, I looked sick.
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I felt sick.
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I was getting accused of being anorexic and not eating.
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And I was frustrated because I knew something was wrong, but nobody could tell me what it was.
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And I was getting into the why me mentality.
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Like, I exercise, I eat healthy.
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Why is this happening?
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What is happening?
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And then when we realized it was issues with my gut.
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I started to have that same mentality.
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Why me?
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Like I do all the things right.
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But it, and it took a little time, but then eventually I started going, wait a minute, Autumn, you have a platform, you have a voice and, and if it's happening to you, it's
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probably happening to other people.
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So you have the opportunity to learn so that you can then teach.
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So, and that same thing with my hormone journey.
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I had the opportunity to learn so that I can go teach.
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So while it's not fun to go through those processes,
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It is fun to be able to give it back and teach it back and help somebody else.
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So that's just my little example.
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I've never lost a home or lost everything, but.
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Yeah, no, I think it's a perfect example, quite honestly, because, you know, what I've discovered is that sometimes doors close and they close pretty hard and they kind of slap
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you in the face when they close.
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Right.
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And it's a little bit of a sting and that may be a big sting, maybe even get bruised by it.
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But what I found is that when a door closes, it's opening another door.
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And the question to ask yourself is, okay, what door is now opening?
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With my gut thing, what door is opening for me, right?
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It's opening the opportunity.
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And I've had some insights recently within the last six months on the meaning of life actually, that kind of factors into this.
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you know, during some deep meditations that I've done, I've...
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Connected to consciousness or pure love right it is pure love when you connect to consciousness It is pure pure love and what does love love to do it loves to create and
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hence we have this unfolding universe of constant creation, right and What's the feedback loop on creation for love?
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It's joy So the for me the meaning of life is from a loving place to create joy, right?
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And in the work that you do from a loving place you're creating joy
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for the clients that you have, right?
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And I've, in my work, it's from a loving place to create joy, right?
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And we think we're chasing all kinds of other things, right?
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Accolades or money or whatever we think we're chasing.
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But quite honestly, at the end of the day, when you're on your deathbed, it's all meaningless.
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What you're gonna really remember is that from a loving place, you created joy and you touch people's lives.
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And that's the sweetness of life right there.
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And when you can embrace that in the moment of quote unquote tragedy and understand that this is a nudge,
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pushing you in a direction that's gonna allow you to have from a loving place to create more joy.
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Now you're really starting to live a life that you would love to be living.
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So that's cool, yeah.
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that's really beautifully said and that's so true from a loving place create joy and I will say that is in all of the work that I do that is where I find the most fun the most
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happiness is when somebody messages me and says how good they feel and how happy they are and thank you Yes, I enjoy the the material things that come from working hard and making
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money but
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But those messages are what fill my cup.
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Seeing people get better, seeing them improve their health, that's the joy.
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Then that's the reason I'll work as hard as I work for as long as I can because that is, yeah, that's what brings me happiness.
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I've told people many times, our greatest joy is seeing our clients do well, right?
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It's our greatest joy when they come back and say, my gosh, I had no idea I could feel this good.
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It's like, we love that so much, right?
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We love that so much.
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So yeah, beautiful.
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Well, it's been, been lovely chatting with you.
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We're to look forward to more conversations.
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So that's great.
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So good.
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Thank you so much.
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This has been great.
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And you know, I know it's from a loving place.
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It's going to help bring more joy to people to understand this part of their body and what they can do to improve it.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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So we're in that together.
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All right.
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Great.
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Thank you so much.
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Thanks, Dr.
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Gladden.