Latest / The Daily Play With Joy Taylor / Messi vs Spain in the World Cup Final and Caitlin Clark’s Officiating Controversy
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- 0:06Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to The Daily Play with Joey Taylor.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining me.
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- 0:12Speaker 2: at The Daily Play Joy Taylor.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Whoop.
- 0:17Speaker 2: Well, this World Cup has been a dramatic one, it
- 0:21Speaker 2: has been a fun one. It has been a controversial one,
- 0:26Speaker 2: and this Sunday will be one of those moments thanks
- 0:31Speaker 2: to a picture of the game's stars from twenty years ago.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have seen this online,
- 0:36Speaker 2: but there's an amazing picture of Lionel Messi and Lamin Yamal.
- 0:42Speaker 1: He was photographed nearly two decades together.
- 0:44Speaker 2: The two of them were photographed when Lamine was a
- 0:46Speaker 2: baby and Messi was.
- 0:48Speaker 1: Just put on the map at Barcelona.
- 0:51Speaker 2: He was just a young player, So you guys have
- 0:54Speaker 2: to google these photos.
- 0:55Speaker 1: It's actually crazy.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Lamine's family won a raffle run by a Catalan newspaper
- 1:00Speaker 2: in conjunction with a Barcelona shirt sponsor in international children's
- 1:05Speaker 2: charity UNISEFT that would select randomly to have a professional
- 1:10Speaker 2: photo taken up their baby with a Barcelona first team player,
- 1:15Speaker 2: and now they are facing off in the World Cup.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Like if you don't believe in fates and like the
- 1:19Speaker 2: universe aligning.
- 1:21Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:22Speaker 2: I don't know what else to tell you, because it's
- 1:25Speaker 2: actually insane that that is not Ai and it is
- 1:27Speaker 2: a real photo. And now we are going to see
- 1:32Speaker 2: if Messi and Argentina can repeat. And they are taking
- 1:35Speaker 2: on Lamina mal In Spain in the.
- 1:39Speaker 1: One of the largest World Cups in history.
- 1:41Speaker 2: It's amazing and it sets up an epic World Cup final.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Two of the highest ranked teams in the world. Spain
- 1:49Speaker 2: handled France to nil in their semifinal and have only
- 1:52Speaker 2: allowed one goal all tournaments. Lamina is the star, but
- 1:58Speaker 2: they've had six different goalscorer in this tournament and Argentina,
- 2:02Speaker 2: on the other hand, started with two shutout wins but
- 2:05Speaker 2: have either trailed or been tied.
- 2:07Speaker 1: In the second half of all five games since.
- 2:09Speaker 2: And Messi assisted on both goals in the win over England,
- 2:14Speaker 2: which was incredibly meaningful.
- 2:15Speaker 1: He said, although it was just one match.
- 2:16Speaker 2: We experienced in special moments, the fans wanted this victory
- 2:20Speaker 2: more than any other because of what it means to
- 2:21Speaker 2: face England in the semi file and reach another World
- 2:25Speaker 2: Cup final.
- 2:26Speaker 1: So he has an unbelievable amount of records Messi does.
- 2:34Speaker 2: I can go down the list, but it will wore you.
- 2:36Speaker 2: He's got a lot. Obviously, he's compared to Pele when
- 2:42Speaker 2: it comes to the greatest of all time, particularly at
- 2:45Speaker 2: the World Cup level. Messi has had so much club
- 2:50Speaker 2: success on top of the World Cup success. If he
- 2:55Speaker 2: was able to go back to back and win this
- 2:58Speaker 2: World Cup, it's going to be very difficult to argue
- 3:01Speaker 2: that he is not the greatest of all time. It's
- 3:05Speaker 2: been exceptional to watch him play in this World Cup.
- 3:11Speaker 2: The way that Argentina has never been out. I think
- 3:18Speaker 2: it's actually kind of incredible to watch teams play against
- 3:22Speaker 2: them and check out before the game is over, like
- 3:27Speaker 2: you gotta play till the end, but particularly with Argentina,
- 3:31Speaker 2: you gotta play till the end, and it's like choke
- 3:33Speaker 2: after choke after choke, and it's just been it's been
- 3:38Speaker 2: crazy to watch. And I know that it's been a
- 3:41Speaker 2: controversial World Cup, but I feel like we got a
- 3:45Speaker 2: really great matchup to round this out.
- 3:49Speaker 1: We're going to.
- 3:50Speaker 2: See the young up and coming LA mean you mal
- 3:54Speaker 2: against arguably the goat. This feels very Patrick Mahomes and
- 3:59Speaker 2: Tom Brady and I can't I just can't wait to
- 4:05Speaker 2: see what happens. I cannot wait to see who ends
- 4:09Speaker 2: up winning this World Cup. And I know that we
- 4:13Speaker 2: are all on the bain side as far as team
- 4:16Speaker 2: success goes.
- 4:17Speaker 1: But I you know, I am a goat person and.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I'm gonna be rooting for le me Namal, But I
- 4:25Speaker 2: really just want to watch an incredible World Cup final, and.
- 4:28Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get one, all right.
- 4:30Speaker 2: So year three in the WNBA is becoming a very
- 4:38Speaker 2: very interesting one for Caitlyn Clark. The Indiana Fever continues
- 4:46Speaker 2: to put up numbers on the court. She made an
- 4:48Speaker 2: All Star team for the third consecutive season. Her team
- 4:51Speaker 2: is right in the middle of the playoff picture if
- 4:53Speaker 2: the season ended at the All Star break. But this
- 4:57Speaker 2: week has been actually really the past two weeks and
- 5:00Speaker 2: some pretty controversial weeks for Kaitlin Clark, starting with the
- 5:03Speaker 2: Alyssa Thomas fowl situation, and now she has voiced her
- 5:09Speaker 2: frustrations with the officiating and opponents. The latest incident stems
- 5:15Speaker 2: from a no call in Indiana's lost to the Golden
- 5:18Speaker 2: State Valkyries Wednesday night. Caitlin said about the play, the
- 5:22Speaker 2: ref can't miss that, and I have to play with
- 5:25Speaker 2: the contusion in my leg the rest of the game.
- 5:27Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
- 5:28Speaker 2: The ref said, I initiated the contact, which was fine,
- 5:30Speaker 2: but you can't nee me in the leg knock me over.
- 5:33Speaker 2: And then she said, we'll just rub it out, good
- 5:37Speaker 2: old knuckles on.
- 5:37Speaker 1: It and call it a day. So this play happens
- 5:40Speaker 1: in the second.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Quarter of the Fevers eighty eight to seventy five loss
- 5:46Speaker 2: to the Valkyries. Kaylin was driving to the basket. She
- 5:51Speaker 2: took an introverted me and inverted me from Kia Stokes
- 5:55Speaker 2: and was not awarded a foul. This, I mean has
- 5:59Speaker 2: been used and rewatched a million times by everyone on
- 6:03Speaker 2: the internet. She did talk about Valkyrie's defense and said,
- 6:07Speaker 2: they're in my grill. They're probably the best defensive team
- 6:09Speaker 2: in the league. They're really good at that. I thought
- 6:10Speaker 2: I finally played with a little more paced and a
- 6:12Speaker 2: little more burst, especially down the stretch in the fourth.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Valkyries have held opponents to seventy five points a fewer
- 6:17Speaker 2: twelve times this season, and they're eleven in one of
- 6:19Speaker 2: those games. That's the most of the league and double
- 6:22Speaker 2: the next closest team. That's the Links, Mercury and mystics.
- 6:25Speaker 2: They have six a piece. This is this is becoming,
- 6:33Speaker 2: this is becoming a real thing with Kaitlin Clark. We
- 6:36Speaker 2: have the letter from Congress, We have pundits on every
- 6:42Speaker 2: news station, every podcast, every daily show constantly discussing Caitlyn Clark,
- 6:52Speaker 2: the way she's being treated in the league, the way
- 6:55Speaker 2: she is being officiated, the way that she is treating
- 6:58Speaker 2: the officials.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Her antics on the court.
- 7:01Speaker 2: And I think she's she's in uncharted territory and she
- 7:07Speaker 2: is really flying close to the sun with everything that
- 7:13Speaker 2: is boiling. I don't think Caitlyn asked for the attention
- 7:18Speaker 2: that she's gotten. I don't think she's asked for the
- 7:23Speaker 2: commentary that.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Has surrounded her.
- 7:27Speaker 2: I don't think she's turned it down either, And I
- 7:30Speaker 2: do feel like that feels strategic. The WNBA is an
- 7:39Speaker 2: incredibly physical league. I think a lot of the new
- 7:42Speaker 2: fans are learning that. I think Congress is learning that,
- 7:47Speaker 2: and certainly Caitlin Clark is learning that. Nobody is getting
- 7:51Speaker 2: any free passes, nobody is getting special treatment. This is competition,
- 7:57Speaker 2: this is the physical game. And yeah, if you come
- 8:01Speaker 2: down the lane and you initiate contacts, that's not a foul.
- 8:10Speaker 2: If anything, it's an offensive vowel and the antics after
- 8:14Speaker 2: that in the referee space is not a good look.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Star players go at referees. They do not go at
- 8:22Speaker 2: referees every single game. They do not go at referees
- 8:26Speaker 2: every single time they feel like they didn't get a foul.
- 8:28Speaker 1: There is a treatment, there's an exchange, there is.
- 8:30Speaker 2: A respect, and this goes right along with players in
- 8:37Speaker 2: the NBA as well, who have at times behaved like
- 8:40Speaker 2: this and their reputations have suffered for it.
- 8:44Speaker 1: So nothing I'm saying is particularly that innovative.
- 8:47Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of people complain about Luca, A
- 8:50Speaker 2: lot of people complain about the way that Shay Gildas
- 8:52Speaker 2: Alexander is officiated. People have talked about the way that
- 8:55Speaker 2: Lebron has been officiated, for better or worse, because he
- 8:58Speaker 2: is a big player, he doesn't get certain calls, and
- 9:00Speaker 2: that he's also a star so he gets certain calls.
- 9:02Speaker 2: Officiating is not done by robots. Do I think that
- 9:06Speaker 2: the officiating could be better in the WNBA.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Absolutely do.
- 9:09Speaker 2: I think it is something that they are going to
- 9:10Speaker 2: focus on throughout the rest of the season and particularly
- 9:14Speaker 2: the off season. Absolutely, and as they should, as the
- 9:16Speaker 2: league grows, it gets more attention.
- 9:18Speaker 1: The standards for everything need to rise. But this is
- 9:22Speaker 1: a real This is a real.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Inflection point for Caitlin Clark because tensions are high, attention
- 9:31Speaker 2: is high, and I think she has an opportunity to
- 9:35Speaker 2: turn down the temperature in the room.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I think she has an.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Opportunity to show up as a real professional, as a
- 9:44Speaker 2: real star, and set a standard for herself for how
- 9:51Speaker 2: she is viewed by the public on you know, both
- 9:54Speaker 2: by supporters and by people that are critical of her.
- 9:58Speaker 2: And you're seeing other stars do that very easily. So
- 10:05Speaker 2: it's a choice like this is the moment where people
- 10:08Speaker 2: are solidifying what they think about you as a player,
- 10:13Speaker 2: and when these incidents are constantly happening, when the only
- 10:17Speaker 2: conversation that we're having about Caitlin is about her ferocious
- 10:26Speaker 2: conversations with the referees, with how she's being officiated, with
- 10:30Speaker 2: how other players are being physical with her. It's not
- 10:34Speaker 2: about her game. Nothing criminal is going on here. I
- 10:40Speaker 2: just think it's it's probably time to take the temperature
- 10:43Speaker 2: down in the room. And while I did not initially
- 10:47Speaker 2: put this at the feet of Caitlyn Clark, because she
- 10:49Speaker 2: did not ask for this, and was an unbelievable college
- 10:55Speaker 2: player and came into the league with a huge firestorm
- 10:59Speaker 2: of attention.
- 11:01Speaker 1: And now we're in it.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Like, now you've been playing for multiple years, You've had
- 11:08Speaker 2: the opportunity to adjust to the WNBA, You've had the
- 11:10Speaker 2: opportunity to put on some muscle, to strengthen your game,
- 11:16Speaker 2: to adjust to how you're going to be played, And
- 11:20Speaker 2: the constant, the constant demanding of.
- 11:26Speaker 1: This treatments is it's becoming.
- 11:29Speaker 2: Very strange, and we're all watching the games, so like,
- 11:33Speaker 2: this particular play.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Was not the hill to die on.
- 11:36Speaker 2: And when you are dying on these hills, it only
- 11:39Speaker 2: further solidifies people that are critical of your play and
- 11:43Speaker 2: your antics because it's like we can see that this
- 11:48Speaker 2: was not what you're very vocally angry about that did
- 11:52Speaker 2: not happen. Now, maybe it's a response to all the
- 11:55Speaker 2: other ones, but you do need to be strategic when
- 11:57Speaker 2: you're talking about how you treat reps frees, what you
- 12:01Speaker 2: expect the referees to do.
- 12:02Speaker 1: You're not going to get a call every time you
- 12:04Speaker 1: go into the lane.
- 12:06Speaker 2: No one does because it's not always about and you're
- 12:11Speaker 2: not gonna get special treatment because no one should because
- 12:14Speaker 2: that's not competition. So yeah, I'm concerned because the conversation
- 12:19Speaker 2: is completely gone off the rails. That's been off the
- 12:21Speaker 2: rails at the point in which Congress gets involved, Like myself,
- 12:25Speaker 2: as a competitor, I would have shut that down immediately.
- 12:28Speaker 2: I don't need no help from Congress. The world is burning.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Do your jobs over there. Don't worry about little one me.
- 12:35Speaker 1: I got it. I'm gonna be fine. This is a
- 12:38Speaker 1: league issue.
- 12:39Speaker 2: You've got women getting death threats, You've got women getting
- 12:44Speaker 2: called racial slurs left and right. Let's keep the main
- 12:48Speaker 2: thing the main thing, and right now with Kaylyn Clark,
- 12:50Speaker 2: the main thing is not the main thing. Every ref
- 12:54Speaker 2: miss is a call. Okay, The officiating could be better.
- 12:57Speaker 2: It is not that bad. It is not that bad
- 13:00Speaker 2: that Congress needs to get involved. I assure you, it's
- 13:03Speaker 2: not that bad. It is not that deep, It is
- 13:04Speaker 2: not that serious.
- 13:05Speaker 1: It is not that bad. It is not criminal.
- 13:08Speaker 2: And for everyone who is freaking out about it, you're
- 13:13Speaker 2: to be the same ones who talk about how the
- 13:15Speaker 2: NBA is soft. You'd be the same ones who talk
- 13:18Speaker 2: about how Shay just walks past someone and gets a
- 13:22Speaker 2: foul called, and you don't like that style of play.
- 13:27Speaker 2: So make up your mind. Are we playing a physical
- 13:30Speaker 2: game of basketball? Or are we giving stars these passes
- 13:34Speaker 2: to constantly being called fouls.
- 13:36Speaker 1: That's not enjoyable basketball.
- 13:37Speaker 2: We know that because we are constantly complaining about it
- 13:40Speaker 2: in the NBA, the officiating could be better.
- 13:44Speaker 1: Take a temperature down the room.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Let's all just get a grip, okay, so I'll just
- 13:49Speaker 2: like put toes on grass and enjoy the basketball. It's
- 13:59Speaker 2: become this race war, it's become this gender war. It's
- 14:04Speaker 2: become a privileged war. It is just obnoxious. No one
- 14:08Speaker 2: can have a serious conversation.
- 14:10Speaker 1: About it anymore. There's no conspiracy. Guys. We have eyeballs.
- 14:16Speaker 1: We can see what's happening. This was not the hill
- 14:19Speaker 1: to die on.
- 14:20Speaker 2: This only furthers the conversation in a negative way. So
- 14:23Speaker 2: I hope we all can just this get a grip
- 14:26Speaker 2: as we head into they all start weekend very soon.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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