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The Shias never cared for Palestine (Ft. Hassan Al-Qadri) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Smila Rahmad, Rahim Ya Mehdi Adrikani, Salaam Alaikum and
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welcome back to another episode on your favorite Shia Muslim
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podcast. After Muslim last week, we were
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blessed to have Sister Batool on our podcast where she shared
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with us a number of key points which were beneficial,
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insightful and educational about the ongoing situation in Lebanon
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as well as the ongoing genocide in Gaza.
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This week is no different. The discussion continues and we
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can see a number of key events that have now changed and
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possibly are about to shape the Middle East region.
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We've seen the unfortunate assassination of Seth Hassan
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Nasrallah, a Shia state, retaliation against the against
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the occupation entity. And insha'allah, this week we
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have a guest who's going to allow us understand, you know,
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what is happening in the world today, Where we go next?
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And more importantly, I have a number of questions I think that
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concern the entire Muslim Ummah. As always, before we introduce
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our amazing guests, I would like to welcome my amazing Co host
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Ahmed Salamat. Alaikum Salam Abdullah.
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How are you doing, Saeed? I, you know, last week you asked
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me that question. I said I'm well, but inside I'm
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not well. I think I'm worth now seeing,
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you know, the events unfold in front of my eyes online, on
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social media, beyond the news. But I think we'll discuss it
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more on the episode. How are you feeling?
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Yeah, I think pretty accurately, as you said, the same from a
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humanitarian level, quite disheartened a million people
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displaced in Lebanon, which is just astonishingly great as a
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number we can't really comprehend.
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So there's one to 1.2. Wow.
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And obviously we're now seeing the escalation into what we call
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what we may call a full scale regional war.
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And of course this comes down to none other than the occupation
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entity and their devious treacherous tactics to occupy,
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invade and inflict genocide, as you said, on to the people of
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Gaza and now of course the people of Lebanon.
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The attacks which are happening are are really unprecedented.
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And it's ironic because we're now seeing what's called an
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escalation because of the retaliation of Iran, which of
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course you alluded to. But the, the, the talk of
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escalation hadn't come up until now, when ironically, over the
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last 12 months, we've seen what the last general says is up to
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200,000 people directly or indirectly killed by Israeli
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operations in Gaza. We've seen assassination of
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state actors, sovereign leaders, we've seen cutting off food and
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water and humanitarian aid and just absolutely preposterous
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means to inflict torture. This is really torture.
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And now unfortunately they're trying to do this in Lebanon.
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Now, obviously we we want to also, we are a Muslim podcast
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and we have to just say to everyone at home that we are
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talking about this for the second week running.
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It's not our usual kind of means and methods of doing things, but
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because of the absolute sheer gravity of the situation, it's
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very important for us to do so, for you and us to be informed of
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what's going on around the world.
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Regardless where you're from, what age you are, your level of
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practice or belief, your level of Iman at this time.
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We're going to talk about it from the religious perspective
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today. How you as a Muslim in the West
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can improve your relationship with the last one of the Allah
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and the other beta in Musalam in a time like this, the Holy Quran
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as well, but also from an analytical perspective as well.
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So we have brought on someone who has been in many ways one of
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the key leading voices, especially on social media, for
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our share community in the UK and has been representing us
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incredibly well for the third time, welcome back our dear
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brother Hassan Al Qadri Islam Alaikum.
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Alaikum Salaam. How are you bro?
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How are you? How are you feeling?
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I think with with everything which has been happening, of
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course, we're approaching now, but I think by the time I think
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this releases, we are only a couple of days away from the one
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year mark of the the conflict, the genocide in Gaza.
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How how are you feeling both over the last 12 months and
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especially over the last week or two?
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Suinda Rahman, Rahim Allah, Muhammad Ali Muhammad.
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Honestly, I've been feeling strong, proud, honoured,
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dignified. I feel so honoured to wake up
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every day and to be a Shia in this specific time.
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There is no better time to wake up in this generation in this
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time than to wake up and be a Shia.
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I say actually I believe every single Shia.
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I should wake up every day, especially in these days.
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And do Sir Jude prostate to Allah, subhanahu to Allah and
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thank him for being a Shia. And then straight after that, go
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to your mother and father, kiss their hands and feet for them,
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planting the seed of wilaya in your heart.
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And not just that, go to your mother even more for her, giving
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you the nourishment of wilaya, the wilaya of Ali bin Abiyat
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Ali. There isn't a better time to be
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a Shia. I am so honoured to be a Shia in
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this current time that words can't even express it.
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You know, a lot of people forget that what we are seeing in
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Lebanon and the resistance in Lebanon, this is a small faction
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compared to the superpower that's attacking Lebanon.
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Of course. Yeah.
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But the one thing that the world has forgotten, the Muslim, the
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non-muslim and the whole entire world is that we are the Shia of
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Ali bin Abiya Talib. That is powerful.
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Of course I'm upset, of course I'm hurt, but I'm a Shia of
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Aliya Abiya Talib. Look at the honour we are
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bringing to Islam. People forget we are the sons of
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better Ahud Haibar, her name Jamal Safin Nahrawan.
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We're the sons of the companions of Rasulullah, the likes of
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Mekdad Amar Salman, the likes of Abu Dhar, Abu Ayub Al Ansari,
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Jaberbin Abdullah Al Ansari, all of these individuals that have
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made us who we are today. People forget that.
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People forget that we are the Shia of Ali bin ABI Talib.
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There is nothing like it. We are the people of the man who
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said when there was thousands standing in front of him, Hey
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heart Minadilla, we will never be humiliated in any shape or
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form. We will not retreat.
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We have one objective and that is to make sure the people of
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Palestine first and foremost are safe and for us to have a, to
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take back from this Zionist entity what they have taken from
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the Palestinians. It's as simple as that.
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And we are, we should be so proud that we are Shia.
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I can't, I can continue for the whole podcast.
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Just saying that you should feel honoured for that.
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So I think we shouldn't wake up, feel depressed, don't wake up,
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feel upset, don't wake up feeling Where do I, what do I
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do, where do I go? There is a Imam that's alive,
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there is a imam that's looking after our affairs.
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Even though it's behind closed doors, even though we cannot see
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him, he is there. His daughter is powerful.
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Allah answers his daughter. Don't let anyone take that away
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from you. So when you wake up, wake up
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strong because we are strong and because our people back home
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need us to be strong. So we should be strong.
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No, brothers, I don't want to hear that from you.
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I don't want to hear I'm upset. No, of course we're upset.
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They're getting hurt. But we are strong.
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We are powerful. We are pushing forward.
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Let our manner yard, our psychology, our mannerism, be
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strong. Push forward.
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We are the sons of Abu Fatwa Abbas.
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When the companions, he's one of the last ones to be killed.
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No. In Karbala, we are the graduates
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of Karbala. We are the graduates of
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Aishwarya. We are the graduates of the
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school of Sayyid Zainab. What do we fear?
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Fear what? Death.
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Kill us. Martyrdom.
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Honour. You can't defeat us.
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There's no defeating us. So we have to remember that.
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I don't want to see anyone feeling sorry for themselves.
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Do not feel sorry for yourself. The only thing you should be
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doing to put it into perspective.
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Your sadness for what's happening is but of.
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Course there's a human. Like, look, I completely agree
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with everything you're saying, but there's a human natural
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reaction, whether it's Sunni, Shia, non-muslim, anyone in the
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east or the West. When you see the oppression,
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when you see the mutilation that is that, you know, these people
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are faced with and, and the human suffering that people are
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going through, there's a level of questioning that what is my
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responsibility living in the West?
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I can't, for example, go to the immediate aid of people in need.
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I can't give my home. I can't give aid and and you
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know, shelter them and embrace them or whatnot.
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But my aim and the West is still to be of service to them in the
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East. But my means are limited.
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So what do you think? No, I think you're very right.
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And rather, Hassan, I echo, I think everything you said and I
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believe everyone listening here today.
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That means not ahead, not ahead. I think we all resonate with the
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words you mentioned. And just to add to Ahmed, I
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think he's right. We're so far away from those
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lands, right? And we see what's happening,
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what's unfolding in front of our eyes.
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I mentioned earlier in the intro that we see this daily on our
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social media. We want to do something and I
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and I think our duty here first, first of all, is giving them a
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voice in a way. And I think allowing people to
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understand what is truthfully taking place.
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Because, you know, the amount of misinformation and hypocrisy
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that's taking place in the West makes it more important for us
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as Muslims to speak out the truth.
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And as Shia, we know what the hackers, nothing's important
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that we do mention the truth. But I think what's vital here
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it's how do we channel that that that yearning of wanting to do
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something, unable to being here in the West.
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Does it, does it link to our faith?
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Is there something we can take like the corridor of our Iman?
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Yeah, I think that's a very beautiful question.
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You see, I think there's a few points that needs to be
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considered that are vital. The first and foremost, it's
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it's a big shame that this nation, Sunni, Shia, whoever you
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are, the Muslim nation, the nation of Muhammad Ali, Ali, we
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have forgotten the power of Doha.
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Yeah, we have forgotten the power of Doha.
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We are more powerful because we have the weapon of the prophets,
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the weapon of the prophets. When our last panel to Allah
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goes through and tells us the stories of the prophets, he's
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not telling. It's not a it's not a book of
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stories. It's to take the Aibar.
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The examples learn from what they're going through.
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They go through these hardships and they he's showing us how a
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great servant of Allah, a great slave of Allah deals with
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hardships, trials and tribulations.
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We have forgotten the power of Daar.
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Let me read you a report. It's found in Al Kafi Al Quleni,
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narrator from Imam Roba. He says you must hold on to the
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weapon of the prophets, Allah. Let me ask you a question.
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Which is more powerful, what America and Israel have or what
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the prophets have? Of course.
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And they asked him the companions, what is the weapon
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of the prophets? He says do ha a lot.
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What do our you you care about the people of Lebanon and
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Palestine make do our for them. Our imams have given us do our
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against the enemies have given us do our for protection.
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Our imams have given us a Saifa Jadiya, you said to me just
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before we started recording, you said to me, there was a sister
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that asked. She said I feel lost, what do we
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do? What's the first stage?
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How do? Let me tell you, Imam Sajjad saw
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what he saw in Karbala. He went through what he went
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through in Sharm Kufa. What did he give us?
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The weapon of the prophets as Sahifa Sajjad said.
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So this is to answer the question first and foremost is
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dua. We have to rely upon a lot.
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Dua is so powerful and another hadith al Khulani in al kafi
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narrates from the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi.
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He says pleading before Allah for help is the believers
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weapon, the pillar of religion, the light of the heaven of the
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heavens and earth. So this is the the foundation of
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how we support them. Do our you finish your fetcher,
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do our and by the way and every Salah by the way, you, you do do
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our Inshallah. But one thing we have to do, we
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should do it in our local communities and our local
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Husseini yard centres, mosques. We have to gather by the
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thousands, put our hands up, recited to our of Imam Sajjad,
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recited to our of Amir al Mukmanin, recited to our of Imam
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al Hassan al Hussain. We have we have the weapon of
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the prophets. Believe me, we have forgotten
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this very important weapon that we should be using.
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I agree with that. And I think the second point is,
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is if you are a doctor, if you are a journalist, if you are
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someone that has podcasts, you know, you're saying I don't feel
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like I'm doing enough. No, you're doing enough.
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Do more, but you're doing enough.
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Don't worry. You have a podcast.
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You've used it to bring on people to to be a voice for them
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oppressed people. You're doing good.
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Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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Use your social media. Make sure other people do it.
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Try, try do Magilis get people together beside the art
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together? And have we forgotten that we
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have an imam to ask the imam to make the art for us to protect
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the Omar? Yeah.
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So I think these crucial 2 crucial points are very
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important. Use your platform, use whatever.
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If you're a doctor, do a video explaining if if I don't know if
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someone gets cut or someone gets shot, what's the best thing to
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do straight away If you can't get to the hospital Can be fun
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as an example. There's a lot of ways to tie
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your. Professional.
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There's so much you can do. If you're someone that does
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doesn't have too much skills but you have money, give money.
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Do you know what The thing is? As well as we, we constantly
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feel like we can't do anything at all but this the, the, the
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difference between previous conflicts which we've seen in
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the region or even worldwide and what we've seen in the last year
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is what this is an information war.
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This is an information war. We've seen shadow banning.
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We've seen accounts being suspended.
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We've seen people get like kind of incarcerated because of their
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social media posts, purely because the, the absolute reach
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you can have online tweeting from your home or posting from
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your home or creating a TikTok video or an Instagram Reel and
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allowing that to go viral. The, the, the reach is, is, is
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so fundamentally important that we sometimes overlook it.
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Do you see what I mean? I think The thing is, as well as
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a lot of people feel like there's not much I can do now,
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there is at the absolute minimum, use your tongue.
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And when we say that, we say it metaphorically, of course,
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because not everyone wants to come out and speak, you know,
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but like you said, using your social media, even a retweet, a
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repost, at the bare minimum, the number of people that we've seen
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who have just stayed silent. And even by, by the way, I'm,
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I'm directly talking to those members of our community who for
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a year have been silent, but in the last week when they see Shia
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in South Lebanon being attacked, have decided to have a voice.
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Where you at, bro? Where have you been for the last
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year, honestly speaking? And now people are coming
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forward. Oh, may Allah protect the Shia
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of South Lebanon. Habibi, We're talking about a
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multicultural, pluralistic society in Lebanon where Shia
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are not a majority. And you're only making data for
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the Shia in South Lebanon. Where have you been for a year?
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When we see the resistance that are taking place, where we see
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Shia being killed for Sunni children in Gaza?
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Come on, man. At the bare minimum, at the bare
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minimum, as a Shia community in the West or a Muslim community
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in general, use your voice. And like, if you can't use your
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voice, as you say, use your money, use something, have a
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conversation with a colleague at work, you know, speak to people
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in your community, Encourage them to to go out on the streets
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when there are demonstrations and protests, to sign petitions.
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There's so many ways of being involved politically when you
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don't actually have to put yourself out in front of a
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camera and do the hard work like that.
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Because some people are great at that like you, but some people
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are not maybe as as as confident in that field.
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But there are different ways to get involved.
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Oh, you're absolutely right. You know, I'm thinking you
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mentioned the point where you mentioned people are only
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speaking out now, as in I think you're referring to just the
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Shiite. Community.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let's say the ongoing
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situation now in Lebanon is that people are now standing out
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saying, you know, may Allah protect the Shia of Lebanon,
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which is a good thing by the way.
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Of course, of course, any we only that dua and said Hassan
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Habibi just back to your point, you mentioned that we should use
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dua and it makes me think we are Shia.
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We are a Shia podcast. The majority of our audience are
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Shia. We come from the school of the
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the end of both have left us so much treasure, the best, the
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best, the best of the US. But I want to come back to
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Ahmed's point here. And I think it's it's beautiful
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if we can move the conversation this way.
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Is that recently, since the involvement of Lebanon OR the
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escalation, Lubnan, we see this noise, this chatter, especially
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online on Twitter where people speak about Sunnis and Shia.
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And I, and I think it's a great point to mention now, is there a
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point in having Sunni, Shia unity to defeat this entity, to
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work together, to unite against a common enemy?
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So there's a there's a few ways to answer the question.
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First and foremost like you mentioned we are Shia so we
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follow the imams of Alibeit, Ali, Muslim, our imams Alaima
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Salaam. Especially the later imams where
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when the Abbas of caliphate took over.
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My memory is not serving me correctly but they were at war
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with a non-muslim nation at the time.
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Imagine that Abbas's and some scholars even say that Abbas's
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were even worse than the Umayids against the imams of Ellebeid.
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And they and and our later imams told some of their campaign go
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and fight with the army of the Abbasid.
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Why? Because there is the wider
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objective Muslim land. This guy comes in, he's going
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to, he's going to, he's going to take, he's going to remove the
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Kelima, he's going to remove La La.
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No, no, we don't want that. John, do you understand what I'm
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saying to you? So this is very important to
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understand, very important is that the imams in many cases
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will tell their companions, go and fight with the Abbas army
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and Abbas are the ones that are killing the imams.
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Yet they understood the wider picture.
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Even we have a report in Rovatil Kafi, the last volume of Al
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Kafi. Where it says why did Imam Ali
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not revolt? So I'm paraphrasing here.
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He basically says he says well is Imam Al Barker answering he
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goes 1. He didn't have the supporters
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enough 2. If he did, they would have went
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back to worshipping the idols. Who's they?
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So the yeah, I mean some of the combat, because they have this
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thing, they think that we think all of the Sahaba are postated
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except three or four or five. It's another discussion.
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I've got a video on it. Everyone wants to whoever wants
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to is called the Sahaba or the companions and of the messenger
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of a light and shit. I thought the final cut or
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something like that, you could refer back to it.
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But anyway, putting that aside, he's saying the companions that
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actually knew the truth and then went with the first caliph, Imam
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Barker, say Imam Ali didn't revolt because of it.
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Because there is the wider picture, because there is the
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wider truth there. Look at it as a onion.
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The first layer of course has conditions.
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As you go deeper them conditions get more specific.
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But at a wide disco, yes, our imams did things to support the
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oppressive Muslim government, to support the Muslims and Imam Ali
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didn't revolt. One of the reasons because of
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this. So they don't, they don't go
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back to worshipping the idols. Imagine that's one.
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The second thing is, of course, we need unity.
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Who do you think in the ground in in Gaza is fighting Sunnis?
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It's not Shias, Let's let's just say how it is.
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But yes, through the support of Shias, through the support of
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certain governments, they are getting help to do so.
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So this is a crucial time for unity.
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Absolutely. And with unity there's strength,
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but there's a thing we do not, and I say this clearly, I say
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this to the camera. So everyone watching, we do not
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want unity with these extremist Sunnis, these ones that are
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given our sweets because of the shit as being killed, because of
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this leader getting killed and so on.
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We don't want you, don't worry. We don't want unity with you.
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Don't worry. The conversation is not talking
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about you. Not the no answer.
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Yeah, yeah. Not just I don't want to say no
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answer for now because there's it's a technical term and as a
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fifty term and so on, not even take, I'm just going to say
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extremist Sunnis. OK, Let's just say extremist
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Sunnis, these don't worry. We don't want unity.
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Yeah, but we're saying 100 and up, bro.
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You don't understand how many messages I'm getting from
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Sunnis. They're like, voila, you guys
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lifted our heads up. Yeah, voila.
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Yeah. Because bro, at times, sorry to
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interrupt you, but it's at times like this, like you say, where
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the values and the lessons and the teachings that we have
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learned from birth come to light.
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And even if, even if, like you said, we are living in the West,
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but our unequivocal stand for justice, undisputed undivided
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desire to stand for justice, hey, Hartman Nadindler, like you
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said, comes to light at these times when you have unapologetic
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approaches towards standing for rights and human rights and
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standing for the people's right to to defend themselves and
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their rights to possession and land and homes and property and
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all of these things. The people need to be vocal in
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these things. And that that comes from our
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leadership, our thought process, our mud hub, our hearted.
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These kind of things have been taught and passed down through
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generations. Our teachers have taught us this
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from birth. Can I just say something as well
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that the say it said? I want to add a point to it
24:35
which he said he was talking about, you know, that he kind of
24:43
spoke about the is it a religious thing?
24:46
I think it was you or you. No, I think it was both of you a
24:48
religious thing. OK.
24:51
It's without shadow of a doubt it's religious.
24:54
It's from a human perspective, it's political, it's
24:58
geopolitical. Of course, it's all in one.
25:02
But we our drive, our driving mechanism is our Akida. 100%.
25:08
Our driving mechanism is Karbala.
25:12
To say the Zainab is charm is Kulfa, of course.
25:17
Yeah. I mean, if we don't, if we don't
25:19
use those lessons now, those narratives now, when are we
25:21
going to use it? A month ago we were less to be
25:26
in Karbala or or mourning Arubaeen.
25:28
Wherever we are in the world, we hear these lessons.
25:31
We mourn to the point I really believe it.
25:34
Now obviously we know this Kuluyama Ashura is, is not a
25:37
legitimate hadith per SE. But the message that we know is
25:40
clear. The message is what the message
25:42
is that wherever you see any sort of humiliation around the
25:45
world, oppression around the world, do something about it,
25:47
Say something about it. It doesn't matter how many foes
25:50
you have against you. Be vocal, stand up.
25:53
And I don't mean that in a cliche way, because we tend to
25:56
do that a lot. Do you know what I mean?
25:57
I said to Ahmed, no. And all these points you're both
25:59
mentioning is what makes our Shia at the end of the day, what
26:01
makes us stand down and be different, right?
26:03
But there is a tweet that I came across by the the famous
26:07
Mohammed Hijab was a very influential person in the Sunni
26:11
world, in the Western, in the Western world where he said, I
26:14
want, I want your reaction on this, Hassan Mohammed Hijab
26:17
said. How low have we set the bar when
26:21
the impotence and weaknesses of all Sunni Muslim states have
26:25
less have left us so desperate that a mere fireworks display by
26:30
a Shia state can spark a false sense of joy?
26:33
What's your reaction? So I think the first part of his
26:39
tweet. Since we're talking about Sunni
26:41
Shia. I think for the first part of
26:42
his tweet, damn right he's right.
26:47
Like the first part, yeah, of course, is that you know, where,
26:52
where, where is the Sunni government?
26:54
That's true. Where are you?
26:58
How are you not, not allow not saying anything in your
27:01
countries when you're seeing your brothers and sisters being
27:04
butchered? 100% get him to the second part
27:08
of his tweet about firework display.
27:11
You know what it is some people. And a false sense of joy.
27:15
Yeah, some people, you know what it is with them is and believe
27:20
me, believe me, believe me when I say it because I experience it
27:25
on on a day-to-day basis. Yeah, some and I, this is very
27:30
important that we don't brush a Hindu Sunna with the same brush.
27:32
Of course. Please, this is very important.
27:36
Some of the best human beings I've ever met in my life are
27:39
Sunnis, but there are a small group of them.
27:44
Anything she, they, they can't even they don't.
27:48
The hearts can't accept it. He doesn't want firework
27:51
display. Firework display.
27:53
Have you not been seeing the videos?
27:55
He's basically saying what Western media and what the
27:58
Zionists are saying. Oh, they didn't do anything.
28:02
They didn't do it. They didn't hear anything.
28:04
Oh, no, they did. Oh, no, they did.
28:07
We saw the videos, we saw the people from Jordan, we saw the
28:11
people from Egypt, we saw the people from Tel Aviv.
28:14
We saw the people from Haifa, we saw the people from Gaza.
28:17
We saw it. We know what happened, but they
28:21
can't call us. You know what a loss I know to
28:24
Alan. The Quran says they've become
28:26
blind. They have become blind.
28:29
They have become blind. They they can't accept it.
28:33
They can't accept that. The ones that are bringing Ezra
28:36
Karama, Isawa Karama, honour and dignity to this Omar, is the
28:42
Shia of Ali bin ABI Talib. They can't accept it.
28:46
No matter what you do, no matter what you do.
28:49
We've sacrificed children, women, men, everything.
28:54
Firework display before they had lamp posts in, in, in northern
28:59
Israel, they had. They're hitting phone lines.
29:02
Amount of channel. Yeah, that's what they're doing.
29:05
More truth and insan Islam teaches you to be monsif insaf.
29:13
What do you mean nothing? Over 1000 people have been
29:17
killed in Lebanon at least and and the people and the
29:23
resistance is saying to you it's OK let our blood go.
29:28
It's all for Gaza. They can't accept this.
29:33
It's it's in. It's like they make it seem as
29:36
if it's in their DNA. They're fully.
29:38
Blinded by this hatred. Firework display.
29:41
All right, good for you. Firework display.
29:43
Well, let me see some firework display from somewhere else.
29:46
Let me see it. I think.
29:47
Let me see some honour and dignity.
29:49
Let me see it. At best, at best it's
29:54
distasteful and at worst it's an embarrassment.
29:57
And it's humiliation to the dozens and dozens of Muslim
30:01
states worldwide who've done nothing, nothing, when it comes
30:06
to aid, when it comes to support, when it comes to being
30:09
even even cutting ties. Instead of normalizing ties with
30:13
a genocidal, bloodthirsty colonial settler entity, you're
30:18
normalizing relations. Well, there was only lip
30:20
service, and that was in the first few weeks of the genocide.
30:23
Maybe. The Turkish president is still
30:26
giving oil. Of course we will.
30:28
Invade Israel. We will do the you're not going
30:30
to do anything. The only thing you're going to
30:32
do is sit there and have some iskandar kebab and eat it.
30:35
That's the only thing you're going to do.
30:36
He's allowing the pipelines through Turkey to to Israel.
30:40
And their largest supply of. Allah, do you know when the
30:43
Muslims do you know why the Muslims have got to the stage
30:47
that they've got to? Because there's no such thing as
30:50
a Zen karama. There's no such thing as dignity
30:54
and honor. Do you know what it is?
30:56
Yeah, We have so many Muslim states around the world, and I
30:59
mean it. If you think about the Far East,
31:01
East Asia, you think about Asia, subcontinent, Africa, there's so
31:06
many, yeah, there's so many Muslim states around the world.
31:09
There's a 1.8 billion of us around the world.
31:12
And the only one or two or three who are standing up, and we have
31:16
to name them, we give credit to them, to Iran, to those in
31:19
Syria, to those in Iraq and Yemen, in Yemen who have been.
31:24
Which by the way, yeah, I have to interrupt you here.
31:26
Which by the way, are not Shia Imamiya.
31:30
Yes, they are Zaidis. Zaidiya, yeah.
31:32
They are Zaidis. Yeah, they're not.
31:34
Bro, did you see, did you see the drone that they the American
31:37
drone they hit? Yeah, it landed.
31:39
The band are standing on top of it.
31:41
Wallah, he was he was on. He's wearing slippers.
31:45
He looked like he just smashed a Mendi and he's sitting there
31:48
with his dagger and like AK47 that he that he inherited from
31:52
his great grandfather. These are the people that are a
31:56
poor country like that. Of course.
31:58
Well, they have more than Karama than any.
32:00
Of US 80% of people who are malnourished in Yemen who have
32:04
been obliterated by the proxy war led by Saudi, the coalition
32:08
in Yemen since 2015 are now the same ones who are standing up
32:12
against oppression action and standing up for the Gazans
32:14
standing up for the Lebanese that's.
32:15
Because they have morals, Ahmed, they have principles.
32:17
And you know, you know what, it was shocking.
32:20
You know, hey, you're mentioning just, I think four or five
32:22
countries that are standing against world superpowers.
32:25
Is that what makes them stand out?
32:29
The Shia? So I'm, I'm, I'm, I don't want
32:32
to say this is like a sectarian thing, but I think in the Sunni,
32:36
in the Sunni world, they don't have this thing where I think
32:39
let's collectively stand against oppression.
32:42
If we listen to what our leader says, our current leader, if he
32:44
says nothing, then we're chilling.
32:45
Am I right in saying that? I've seen that.
32:47
I must say no, I must say, and I have to be honest, I could say
32:52
majority of the Sunni world, the people.
32:55
Yeah, they want. To no, no, no.
32:56
They want to do something, of course.
32:58
Of course, no, without a shadow of.
32:59
A doubt. Do I feel?
33:00
Do I feel? A shadow of a doubt.
33:01
Yeah. Do I feel and and we've, I'm not
33:03
saying it in the sense that I'm taking it away from them.
33:07
And when I say Ezen Karama, I'm not talking about the Sunnis.
33:09
I'm, of course, the governments. Yeah, yeah, that has to.
33:13
Be very clear. These are the richest
33:15
governments in the world, literally the richest
33:17
governments in the world who are bending backwards to secularize
33:20
their own countries, who are bending back and without causing
33:23
jeopardy to the potential, the chance of hosting a World Cup
33:26
and hosting in the Olympics and hosting Anthony Joshua boxing
33:29
ring matches. These guys who don't want to
33:32
jeopardize and risk commercial gain in, in, in, in, in hope
33:38
that they can, you know, keep earning money and keep
33:40
commercializing their commodities and their land and
33:43
their people to the West. They're betraying their own
33:46
people. Only what shocks me the most is
33:48
that the land of Torhades doesn't give a flying monkey
33:53
that hurts. I think that really hurts the
33:54
Muslim ummah when they see. The land where it is the
33:57
correct. Way you know, the land of Mecca
33:59
and Medina, they're very proud of them.
34:01
Every Muslim is proud of those lands, right?
34:03
That's when you see your leaders who supposedly are the
34:06
custodians of the cabin, doing nothing, not even trying to give
34:12
a ball or a single ball of water to the people of Gaza, right?
34:15
Very. I think that should make your
34:17
question like, what's next in the Muslim world?
34:19
Like where do we go as Muslims? Of course.
34:21
Do we still look at scary people scary?
34:24
Because, yeah, I don't want to say I'm proud for being Shia,
34:27
but I'll say Al Hamdallah, I'm Shia.
34:29
Of course my leaders won't do this.
34:31
They won't abandoned someone. They won't let someone be
34:34
butchered and massacred. Your women, you know, killed and
34:37
your children mutilated. This is not something
34:39
acceptable. And now it's become something
34:41
very normal in the Muslim world, sadly, sadly.
34:45
Yeah. And 100% you know I mentioned
34:47
the country in case I was wondering what am I talking
34:49
about? Saudi Arabia ruled why Mohammed
34:51
bin Salman removed the M from his MBS and just keep the BS
34:54
back to you. That's the truth, man.
34:58
I like that one. That's.
35:01
Good, that's good. I haven't heard that one.
35:03
I haven't heard that. One, I came from the heart, man.
35:05
From the heart, Yeah. Anyways.
35:07
So let's kind of move the conversation.
35:09
On we spoke to our audience by. Yeah, I was about to say.
35:12
So I wanna firstly thank everyone.
35:14
We put out some stories earlier today to get your guys thoughts
35:19
and in a matter of like 5 hours, we've had like 6-7 hundred
35:23
responses. So thank you so much to
35:24
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35:44
Yeah. I was just thinking.
35:47
Yeah, he agrees. He knows he goes to the flow.
35:51
What what the people want is what the people get.
35:53
So listen, guys. All right?
35:55
So I'm going to read a few things and questions that we've
35:59
asked and also some points that you guys have mentioned.
36:01
Number one, would you like to see Muslim states working
36:04
together to defend the oppressed?
36:07
OK, 97% said yes, overwhelming 97%.
36:11
But then we asked, do you think Sunni and Shia have effectively
36:15
worked together now, one year on the one year mark of course, of
36:18
the genocide taking place in Gaza, 80% said no, they haven't
36:21
been working effectively together.
36:23
So 97% of people want to see that with the 80% disagree
36:27
haven't seen them. On the groundwork, the
36:29
groundwork we have, we absolutely have in all ways what
36:34
we're absolutely and. Of course, in terms of defence
36:36
of one another, but in terms of organization and something
36:39
strategic from the East or the West.
36:41
I've seen doors open for unity among the Muslims more now in
36:50
the last few weeks than I've ever have.
36:52
I feel like I feel like all Muslims, in terms of we're not
36:56
talking about politicians now or governments or kings.
36:59
All Muslims unite on this. All Muslims unite.
37:04
This is blood of of the Ummah being spilled, innocent blood
37:07
being shed, sands turning red through the blood of innocent
37:11
children. You know when you hear a story
37:14
like Hind Rajab, The story of Hind Rajab, the girl who was
37:17
killed in the car. For those who don't know, Hind
37:19
was a six year old girl in in Gaza.
37:22
She was in the car with her family.
37:25
Her family got opened with machine gunfire from the Israeli
37:29
army. Her family died leaving her and
37:32
her 15 year old cousin. They rang for aid.
37:35
They called for aid. While on the phone, they sent
37:38
paramedics. The paramedics approached the
37:40
car. They opened fire on the
37:41
paramedics and then they opened fire on the car, killing her
37:44
cousin. Then she was left alone. 6 year
37:46
old girl. 6 year old girl left alone pleading, crying for help
37:51
with her relatives, her family dead, surrounding her in the car
37:56
and then they open fire on the car and then you know what the
37:58
report says over 300 bullets penetrated that car on a six
38:02
year old girl. For what crime?
38:03
I'm I'm not gonna lie, it makes me a bit emotional.
38:06
It is emotional, bro. And these these stories are.
38:09
My daughter is five years old. Well, Habibi, it's very
38:12
dishearting. And of us as fathers, Hamdullah,
38:14
we all have, we all have daughters.
38:16
We all have daughters. It's the most tragic, painful
38:19
thing to witness. And, you know, you hear stories
38:21
about Rheem Roharo. You know, these, these, these
38:24
kind of stories which have have cropped up over the last year.
38:27
It has brought us together emotionally, sentimentally.
38:30
We have become united in heart, in heart and mind, in our desire
38:35
to stand up for those people who are oppressed, who have no water
38:37
345 days into this, into this war.
38:40
Last year, they cut off water supplies to the densest
38:43
population on planet Earth. Do you know what I mean?
38:46
How on earth is that possible? You know, they, they go into
38:50
women's homes and widows homes and, and, and wear their
38:53
garments. And what sort of animals are
38:56
these bloodthirsty pigs like? There's no other way to describe
39:00
them. And now we're seeing a, a
39:03
Hamdullah, a collaborated effort for people who want to speak up.
39:07
And that's the most amazing thing we finally found.
39:10
You know, there's a silver lining, there's, there's wisdom
39:12
and hekma to everything on earth.
39:14
And the last Bantallah knows best.
39:15
And we can never say that it was the right it was, it was the
39:18
best thing that could have happened, but Allah knows that
39:20
this was the right thing. And this was ultimately, you
39:23
know, la jochero makarin. Do you know what I mean?
39:25
It's like this is this is the, the will of our last Bantallah.
39:28
We submit to it. So I just want to go back to it.
39:31
Sorry to kind of go on a bit of a tangent.
39:33
The last question we asked or two more questions.
39:35
Are you feeling more or less prepared for the coming of Imam
39:38
Al Mehthi Ajallah Alafajah Sharif?
39:41
40% said less prepared, 60 said more and we'll come to this.
39:45
And the last question we'll ask is, has the events of the last
39:47
year improved your Dean in terms of Quran, Hadith, Iman?
39:50
And 87% of people said, yes, it has.
39:54
Now I want to ask you hasn't about specifically this point
39:57
about Iman Tawakul belief, understanding of the horn of the
40:03
Imam, whether you are Sunni or Shia, you believe in the coming
40:05
of the Holy Imam. You believe that the Imam will
40:08
be sovereign, that it will be wajib to follow the Imam, that
40:11
the Imam will lead prayer in front of the Nabi Isa Ali
40:13
Salaam, that he will be sent by Allah spam to Allah and it's
40:16
wajib on all Muslims to follow the Imam.
40:19
So given that, and we know that the Imam is due to come and
40:23
bring justice to the lands, we know that the Imam in our hadith
40:27
talks about the deceit of the Arab nations.
40:29
And the Imam talks about how how what's halalu become Haram or
40:34
what's Haram will become halal and there will be a conflation
40:36
of issues and morals in the time of the Lahore.
40:40
But on a personal level, if I can be very honest with you in
40:42
many ways, and I told you this before, I feel like in some ways
40:46
I feel less prepared for the upcoming of the Imam because I
40:49
realized that the Jihad Al Asgar, which is against myself,
40:54
the battle with myself, the willpower that I must have is
40:58
maybe not as strong as I thought it would be.
41:00
And when I look at the oppression taking place around
41:02
the world and I see people who are strong in their Iman and
41:05
they have yakin and they know Allah spent Allah is constantly
41:07
there, you know, has to be Allah when I'm Allah, These people are
41:11
saying, despite seeing the bloodshed around them, I'm
41:14
thinking, am I truly ready to be there when the call comes?
41:18
And because of that, as a result, one may argue or I may
41:21
argue that maybe I feel less prepared and that I have to
41:23
consistently work on myself. Maybe I'm not less prepared, but
41:26
maybe I realize there's much more work to for me to do.
41:29
Maybe I maybe beforehand I was arrogant and maybe I had ego and
41:34
I thought, no, I'm in a great community.
41:36
I have good brothers who I know will recognize the Imam and
41:38
we'll just go, we'll go with the flow.
41:40
No, it's not going to be like that.
41:42
You know, the Imam will be deceived by his own people.
41:44
We see in our hadith 16,000 Ilama will turn against Imam and
41:46
Mehdi and the land between Najaf and Karbala.
41:48
Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the batteries.
41:52
And because of this, I then questioned it.
41:54
And the Hadith says that these are Ilama who've got marks of
41:57
subdued on their head and they failed their, their faces turn
42:00
pale brown from fasting. And I'm thinking, well, if these
42:04
are the visible Shia who are going to turn against the Imam,
42:06
where am I? Am I going to be able to
42:08
recognize the the, the coming of the Imam?
42:10
And there's so many questions. People are doing research.
42:13
There's more inquisitiveness now more than ever when it comes to
42:15
the the understanding of the labour and the signs of the
42:18
reappearance. Ultimately, in my humble
42:21
opinion, if our foundations are weak, there's no point learning
42:23
about the labour of the Imam. If if my foundation and my
42:26
relationship with Olas Mantala itself is weak.
42:28
But I just wanted to get your guys thoughts on this.
42:30
I know I've been speaking a lot. Beautiful reflection, by the
42:34
way. That was a beautiful reflection.
42:36
Bib. I was about to do, but look,
42:46
the, I think the first first steps and they are the most
42:52
crucial steps that we must take to being making sure that we are
43:00
ready for the Imam is first of all, knowing the Imam.
43:06
Every time we look at the Ziara that's found in our books, the
43:11
ziara of Imam Hussain that we recite, it always talks about
43:14
marifa. There's a hadith that is found
43:18
in a book called El Imam O Tabsara by Ibn Baba Wei.
43:24
So the father of the famous scholar Sheikh Hassadur, he
43:28
wrote this book. Actually, when he is called El
43:31
Imam O Tabsara min al Hira, there was confusion.
43:36
He came just after the Haeba Tel cobra.
43:39
Now I actually when the Imam was in Haeba, he was alive.
43:44
He died in the same year at Sheffield Kulini 329.
43:48
He says. He says that there was
43:55
confusion. So he wrote this book to prove
44:00
the Haeba, to prove the Imam exists, to prove all of these
44:04
things, to give you a matter of fact.
44:06
But there's a very nice hadith found in the book that I think
44:10
is the most crucial hadith for us to ponder over and to apply.
44:18
Zurara says to Imam Masadaq, No, Imam Masada says to Zurara,
44:22
sorry. He says the Imam says, ya
44:25
Zurara, there will come a time the Imam is not going to be
44:30
there. He's going to be in Reba.
44:31
I'm paraphrasing, he's going to be in Reba, Zorado says, So what
44:37
do we do at this time? Now I'm a follower.
44:41
All I know is how to follow. The Imam said go to be upon what
44:46
you are upon. What does that mean?
44:50
We have to go back to the books of hadith.
44:55
It is so crucial that we do wake up in the morning, read some
45:01
Quran and just read 2 pages of Al Kafi.
45:06
Learn about your Imam. The first volume of Al Kafi.
45:11
There's a chapter called Kitab al Hodja, if I'm not wrong,
45:16
where it talks about the Imama. It's all about the sefat of the
45:21
Imam. Our imam comes, you're not even
45:23
going to know who he is. Nah, he's impostor.
45:25
He's a liar. We don't know.
45:27
You don't know, you don't read. So it begins with L marifa.
45:32
Everything goes back to marifa, to have knowledge of something,
45:38
to know what it is. That's why you need to know who
45:41
you are worshipping, who Allah is, the sefat of Allah, the
45:45
Sharia of Allah, the wisdom of Allah, understand all of these
45:49
factors, the prophets, the imams and so on.
45:53
So that's the first point. The second one is, see, there's
45:57
a beautiful hadith, and this is probably one of one of my most
46:02
favorite hadith that really, it really makes my heart soft.
46:10
The imams teachers, they say when you are going through
46:13
hardship, when you are going through trials and tribulations,
46:18
remember the trials and tribulations of Rasul Allah.
46:24
Why, why why did they want this from us is because we are
46:30
connected to him mentally, spiritually, psychologically and
46:35
for us to be like Rasul Allah went through all of this, I'm
46:40
OK. I said 100%.
46:42
May my soul, may my mother and father be sacrificed for him.
46:46
It's OK. You think Rasulullah didn't see
46:48
killing? You think Rasulullah didn't see
46:52
tyrants, didn't see oppressors? He did.
46:54
And I'll handle Allah. And I'll handle Allah.
46:59
Our Imams want us to connect to the Rasulullah for us to have a
47:05
emotional attachment. That's why we cry.
47:07
By the way, people look at crying as it's just become
47:10
culture like Salaam Alaik and then they cry.
47:13
It's like have even the crying but they look try to understand
47:18
the psychological mental benefits of crying for Imam and
47:21
I say. Reflect on it.
47:23
Reflect on it. So I do believe, I believe if
47:28
there's a time for us to begin, let's start beginning by reading
47:32
the books of Hadi. Let's begin by reading the books
47:35
of Hadi. Let's go back to the Arthur, the
47:38
culture, sayings, actions, biographies of the imams.
47:43
Let's do it. What are you waiting for?
47:47
It's all there for you. It's as easy as possible.
47:50
Can I just shout out, can I just shout out which app which I've
47:53
been using a lot recently, which is something I know you're part
47:56
of, which is Tucker Lane. And thanks to Thakleen, I'm now
48:00
I have at the tip of my finger. This is not a sponsorship, but
48:02
you're welcome. Sponsor if you want in the
48:05
future, the books of hadith, a lot of the books of our hadith
48:09
in English. And now it's just amazing.
48:11
If I wanna search a phrase or if I wanna search a topic, I'll be
48:14
able to search and I'll find hadith relating to that.
48:17
And we've we touched, of course, as you know, said obviously in
48:19
the past, in in a couple of weeks ago, we released the
48:23
philosophies of the label, which is an incredible, I would go as
48:26
far as saying one of the best productions after mockups ever
48:28
made on Geminis with Shamani Mohammed Ali, which was amazing.
48:33
We did a three-part series on science, excuse me, Signs of the
48:36
Reappearance, where Muhammad Ali talks about a lot of the major
48:39
books. We did a a review of Ketabul
48:42
Gaber by Sheikh Anatmani, which is of course such a short book,
48:46
but one of our classical and if not one of our oldest books on
48:48
the gaber on on analyzing only 470 hadith in the Ketabul gabali
48:53
but. It's a brilliant book.
48:55
And it's, it's just goes to show that there is actually a wealth
48:58
of knowledge there and we haven't really tapped into it.
49:01
That's that's very true. The the resources are there easy
49:05
accessible, but it's it's on to us to make that step, make that
49:08
NIA and Inshallah we do make that move.
49:10
And Hassan, you know, you mentioned the points of having
49:12
to, you know, pick up the Quran, pick up the books of Hadith, get
49:16
to know your Imam, build that matter for that relationship
49:18
with that connection with the Imam of our time, which is a
49:20
point because the one who dies without knowing the Imam of his
49:23
time lies. That was one considered that's
49:25
ignorant. Now I think this is very
49:28
important to the conversation we're having here today because
49:30
we always get this question. It comes in day in day out ever
49:34
since the 7th of October last year.
49:36
Which is where is Imam al Mehdi in all of this first of all and
49:41
where is Allah Azzawajal? Why is he allowing this to
49:45
happen and why is Imam al Mehdi in all of these are always like
49:47
2 questions that happening where people blame Allah for what's
49:51
happening on the ground and then blame Imam Mehdi not coming to
49:55
save the day on the current situation where they sort of
49:58
lose belief in a way. Like where is Imam Mehdi?
50:01
We've been told you're going to come here, restore justice.
50:04
What's happening? How do we?
50:06
Well, first of all, I would say there's been there in throughout
50:09
history, there's been more tragic.
50:13
Yeah, of course. Events, yes.
50:14
I mean, when the Mongols came into Baghdad, yeah, they they
50:19
were using the bodies of the Muslims as a bridge to get to
50:23
get to go get through the river. It's not a joke.
50:30
The discussion of a loss of Hannah were to Allah.
50:32
And this whole thing. Now, of course, this is a more
50:35
of a theological discussion of evil and it's a long one, but in
50:40
short, I would say this, I would say that a loss of Hannah were
50:46
to Allah. Remember, these people that are
50:49
dying, they're going the hearts, they're martyrs, they're going
50:53
heaven. It's that's the that's the end
50:54
of the end of the discussion. You know, there's no it's
50:58
they're going heaven guaranteed. Agenda.
51:01
Yeah, a last of Hannah to Allah. Also, we must understand from a
51:04
theological standpoint that evil goodness will never be
51:10
understood if there was no evil. I understand what I'm saying,
51:14
yes. So that means you'll never
51:16
understand something is good unless there's evil, or you'll
51:20
never understand that something is good unless there is evil or
51:24
there's something good for you to know that something is evil.
51:28
And a last panel to Anna. This is an examination for us.
51:33
Who's going to stand up? Who's going to use his DAR, his
51:37
heart, his tongue, his hands to aid the Muslims?
51:43
Who's going to stand before the people?
51:46
Of Allah so. This is all an examination.
51:49
Every prophet went through it. Hardships happen.
51:53
This is what makes us stronger. This is what should make us
51:56
elevate our status in the eyes of Allah, Subhanahu to Allah.
52:00
And by the way, I must say this, have you seen how many people
52:04
have converted to Islam? That's so true.
52:05
Just seeing the Iman of the people of Palestine.
52:09
That's very true. Yeah, Yeah.
52:11
Did you ever see any of these Palestinians complain to Allah?
52:14
No, they're complaining to the Muslim leaders, but to Allah,
52:20
never. Alhamdulillah, who?
52:22
Praise be to Allah. That's what we've been seeing.
52:25
And As for Imam al Mahdi, Imam al Mahdi, Abdullah Farid Joshi,
52:29
the fact that this is again, it is a Shia discussion, it is the
52:34
fact that he exists. Because we believe he's born.
52:38
Yeah, because, yeah, because Allah, because in the hadith it
52:42
says if there was no Imam, there was no Hajjah on the earth, the
52:47
existence wouldn't exist. There has to be a Hajjah that's
52:51
guiding to Allah. And yes, the Imam, through his
52:56
through him being a lie, through him waiting for the call of
52:59
Allah. That's guidance within within
53:01
itself. Just like when the NBR left
53:06
their people for a certain amount of time, he left them
53:09
with certain guidance. Our Imams told us go back to
53:12
their Imam. Work, work, work.
53:15
Reach the highest level of Iman. Get your attributes to be
53:21
stronger. Get the attributes of the
53:23
movement. All of these factors will make
53:26
the Imam reappear. So the Imam has a major role in
53:31
this. Do you think these people in
53:33
Lebanon, especially the people of Lebanon I'm talking about,
53:35
Yeah. OK.
53:36
Because they're Shia, You think that dying is just because they
53:42
feel like they need to protect their land?
53:45
You think they would sacrifice all of that just for land?
53:48
That's a bigger picture. There is a bigger picture.
53:52
We are working towards the Imam and that's what we want to do.
53:55
So a loss of Hanoi to Allah is guiding us to what To see the
54:03
evil through that you, you have to see it.
54:06
Sometimes we don't understand what evil is until you see it.
54:09
We truly don't, because sometimes you could talk about
54:13
evil, but seeing it is different.
54:16
So this is a very important point and I think it was a very
54:18
good. Question as well.
54:19
Sounds beautiful. Beautiful.
54:21
Answer. I want to ask you because
54:22
obviously we had a lot of people contribute on Instagram and a
54:27
lot of the points mentioned were very much directly in relation
54:31
to what you mentioned hasn't and all of the points you mentioned.
54:34
But obviously we can't go through all of them.
54:36
But are there any ones which stood out to you particular?
54:38
There was, I've got a few open right now actually, you know the
54:40
last question that we asked, which was has the events of the
54:45
last year improved your Dean, your Quran, your hadith, your
54:48
man, etcetera. And there was a very few
54:49
interesting one. I'm going to read a few.
54:53
One brother said it's a clear sign from a last panel at Allah.
54:58
We must improve our Amal and pray for others.
55:00
Yeah, more calamities means closer to the reappearance.
55:05
So more so so so more need to improve our faith.
55:10
Someone said this weakened it, but I'm on an action plan to get
55:13
it back up. I.
55:14
Said. I like that, that's nice.
55:16
Seeing what's going on in the world is really a wake up call.
55:18
Getting closer to Allah is the way to go.
55:23
Someone said the it's constant. Yes it has increased my
55:26
geopolitical knowledge. Someone said I definitely have
55:30
gotten closer to our last panel at Allah and feel the importance
55:33
of Ahil Bates during these times.
55:38
This is all down to the advent of our Imam Hajalat al Afarja,
55:41
meaning it's not far. We need to wake up.
55:44
Someone else mentioned I think importantly Palestinians have
55:46
showed what faith is and humans can lack humanity.
55:49
This is what I've learnt and I'll read one more.
55:53
I reverted to Shia Azim because of Imam Al Mehdi and the Raznam
55:57
massacre played a huge role in my reversion.
56:00
And I think that's one example. You know, when we when we say,
56:02
you know, the Shia are giving their life on the ground.
56:05
You know, we had, what's his name say that Sam Mekhi had a
56:09
very beautiful quote he put up on on Twitter where he said the
56:14
Shia Shia leader died for the Sunni Muslims, which which I
56:19
think that there's a point in saying I need.
56:23
It's it. There is a bigger picture to
56:24
this. When you say, for example, the
56:26
Lebanese resistance, it's not just about a piece of land.
56:29
There is more. And, you know, you have roots
56:31
back to Lebanon. Yeah.
56:33
And I I just want you to. Most people think I'm Arab,
56:35
yeah. Do you have you got family in
56:37
Lebanon right now? Yeah, he does.
56:38
Yeah. Yeah, your grandmother.
56:39
My grandmother's house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:42
Bro, what's my grandmother's? What's my sorry to say?
56:45
That's what grandmother got. She got Batata and Bev and what
56:50
she got. Are you bombing a house?
56:52
They bombed the whole she she has a whole building.
56:54
They bombed the whole thing. Charlotte House and gender.
56:58
Where? Where is she now?
56:59
We'll see it. We were fighting with her for
57:01
time to get her out, to get her out.
57:04
She didn't want to leave two days before they bombed it or
57:07
three days before we got her to Trablos, Tripoli.
57:11
OK, in the North, She's, she's safe now.
57:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's got family around.
57:15
Her. Yeah, yeah.
57:15
She's with my uncle, I remember. Once we went translated, I think
57:24
your grandmother. 'S family hosted us oh was it no
57:25
way it was really for those who couldn't hear it was about
57:28
saying that husband's grandmother was hosted in in
57:31
Lebanon, the soldiers in. Their family, you know what I
57:35
actually, I think I remember we met a family that I think one of
57:41
the they call Omar Shahid, one of one of her sons died, died
57:46
protecting the shrine of say, the Zainab.
57:48
Yeah, Ali has Salaam. And, you know, since we're
57:50
mentioning this, and I think if we can go back to this, I think
57:54
as a final question from me and this discussion on the Sundar
57:56
Shia topic, is that something that's like driving me crazy
58:01
online? Right.
58:02
Yeah. And it's been gone on for a very
58:05
long time. Then ever since, you know, the
58:06
Lebanese resistance got heavily involved in in very recent days,
58:13
is that there's like an uptick of people claiming that the Shia
58:17
killed the hell of Sunnah and Surya.
58:20
What on earth is this? Because for me when I see it,
58:24
it's like, bro, the Shias when and defended the Muslim Ummah
58:28
from the likes of ISIS, the filth of ISIS, you know, Jabhat
58:31
and Nusra, Nusra, Fraun and all these people Gania.
58:35
Who were we killing if we were, if the Shia were killing Muslims
58:38
in Syria? Yeah, so.
58:40
Sorry to go to. That no, no, no.
58:42
There's so many Shiites. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:44
But. How is was the kind of U-turn
58:45
this? Surya discussion is a very
58:47
complicated one. It's a complicated one, but I'll
58:50
try to break it down in a very simplistic.
58:52
Because you know the likes of hijab and all this.
58:54
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Always reference they, they
58:56
always reference this stuff. So you had the Arab Spring that
59:05
was happening in the Arab Muslim countries, right?
59:08
Yes, they were revolting and things like that.
59:13
So they were doing what they were doing.
59:15
I think people need to understand majority of the Shia
59:22
do not hold Bashar al-Assad in a high regard.
59:26
He is a volume, there's no doubt about it.
59:29
Of course. Like, I mean, there's no doubt,
59:31
yeah, but he has a few points that are worthy to be
59:39
considered, which is he is a Arab nationalist and he cares
59:46
about or he's shown, he's shown that he cares about the
59:51
Palestinian 'cause that's something to be, to be very
59:57
important that we consider. We're talking to Father from the
59:59
very. Beginning.
1:00:00
Yeah, yeah. Even his father, who's probably
1:00:02
a bigger tyrant than he he is, he did the same thing.
1:00:05
Arab nationalists, he, he cared about Arab world and he cared
1:00:09
about Palestine and he was against Israel, the Zionists.
1:00:14
Yeah. So when the protests and things
1:00:18
like that started happening, it was all fine.
1:00:21
Everything, you know, not fine, but as in the Lebanese
1:00:24
resistance haven't got involved yet or anything like that.
1:00:31
And they were protesting, so it got out of hand.
1:00:36
Now they started to become rebels.
1:00:40
Yes. And when they became rebels, it
1:00:43
became OK, this is when. And there were different
1:00:48
factions within the rebels. So they weren't all just Jabhat
1:00:52
al Nusra or there were different factions.
1:00:55
That was FSA. Yeah, there was all different
1:00:58
ones. And what started happening, some
1:01:03
of these factions start to get funded by Israel and America
1:01:09
then. And by the way, a funny
1:01:12
question, a very funny question. When you look at Palestine and
1:01:17
what's happening in Palestine, are you seeing anyone from
1:01:20
around the world travelling? They started travelling to go
1:01:24
and fight in Palestine from the Muslim world.
1:01:27
That's not true. What happened in Surya 1?
1:01:30
Observation in Surya Woo. The calls for jihad, did you
1:01:34
see? The calls for jihad.
1:01:35
And by the way, them scholars were scholars for the dollars.
1:01:40
Not all of them, but a big majority of them.
1:01:44
Why? Because the war became Israel
1:01:48
got involved, America got involved, Russia got involved,
1:01:54
Qatar got involved, Sodia got involved and it was all a
1:01:59
playing field because Surya holds a very crucial
1:02:06
geographical position in the world next to Israel.
1:02:12
They, they help the resistance, all of these things.
1:02:16
So they, they started attacking, they started saying Luknan next
1:02:22
they wanted to go to Sham. They started doing bombing all
1:02:27
of these different shrines. What do you expect that she had
1:02:32
to do? Do you expect me to come say to
1:02:35
you, here's the plan, here are my sisters.
1:02:40
Oh, by the way, I've got family down there as well.
1:02:42
You want to go and see them, Of course you're going to fight.
1:02:45
I just remembered they also dug out the grave.
1:02:47
I should have been the ID. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:02:49
And that's the problem. So people forget that it wasn't
1:02:54
that she has came in. They're like, oh, I hate
1:02:58
Anderson. Let me just go and kill them.
1:03:00
No, what all the Billah, our Dean, our Sharia doesn't permit
1:03:05
that at all. I don't care what you say, but
1:03:09
the way it happened, I know someone that was there and he
1:03:14
was trying to get out of the country and when they were
1:03:17
pushing back these rebels, he goes, I was able they one of
1:03:23
their store house storage units, it was all Israeli missiles and
1:03:28
weapons. It was clear that these some of
1:03:33
these factions or a lot of these factions knowingly or
1:03:36
unknowingly was getting funded by Israel designers.
1:03:40
It's simple. To even to add to that, by the
1:03:42
way, there is evidential proof and this is factual and you can
1:03:45
find on Western sources, western sources that the injured of
1:03:50
these so-called rebels, well part of Jupiter Northern and
1:03:54
other groups like that were actually being treated in this
1:03:56
hospitals. Yeah.
1:03:59
And it's. And you watch now, a lot of
1:04:02
these rebels now are all in Idlib.
1:04:04
Yeah. So they're putting out posters.
1:04:07
They're like, thank you, Netanyahu.
1:04:08
Matisse shut off my deck. So.
1:04:11
Karama, my deck. What do you mean?
1:04:13
Thank you, Netanyahu. Thank you, Netanyahu.
1:04:15
For what? And they're, they're, they're,
1:04:17
they're they're coming together now and they're going to come
1:04:20
back stronger. And they're not even talking
1:04:22
about fighting for Palestine. They have even mentioned they
1:04:24
just said they want to fight. Who?
1:04:25
Shia, the Shia, Lobnan, Iran and this is a big problem by the
1:04:35
way, this is a major problem, major problem.
1:04:38
The Soviet thing they keep on me or the treachery.
1:04:41
You know, I want to read you out something.
1:04:43
This is very important. Actually I've put on my social
1:04:46
media before, but I want you to listen and and look how these
1:04:51
people think. Sure.
1:04:53
So Ibn Kathir, he is the student of Dahebi and Ibn Tamiya, he has
1:04:58
a book on history, it's called Al Bidya on Nihaya, he says.
1:05:03
And thereafter came the year 443 after Hijra, in the month of
1:05:10
Safar, there occurred a war between the Rawafil and the
1:05:15
Sunnah and elder Sunnah. It probably happened in a place
1:05:19
called Karah, because that's where I loved the Shia.
1:05:21
I was in Baghdad, so many individuals were killed from
1:05:26
both sides and this was because the Rahafu erected signs and
1:05:31
would write on them in gold. Muhammad and Ali are the best of
1:05:35
Croatian and whoever is pleased has displayed displaced pleasure
1:05:42
and whoever denies this has disbelieved that Ehrlu Sunnah
1:05:46
denied the comparison of Ali to Muhammad.
1:05:49
Therefore war erupted between them and the fighting continued
1:05:53
to Rabi al Awal. So a hashemi was killed.
1:05:58
So someone from Beni Hashem was killed and buried with Imam
1:06:02
Ahmed and the Sunnis tortured and sorry, and the Sunnis
1:06:06
returned from his burial and ransacked the grave of Musa bin
1:06:11
Jafar and burnt the shrines of Musa and Muhammad al Jawat.
1:06:19
All the Shia I did, by the way, before they more or less had
1:06:21
peace. How does you do your thing?
1:06:23
We do. He put up a sign.
1:06:26
It's the Shia area, the Tisha Aliq la merit.
1:06:30
He wants his foot on top of your head.
1:06:34
Sorry, the time of the omeids and the Abbas is gone, finished.
1:06:40
No more. No more feet on top of our
1:06:44
heads. We are the Shia of Ali.
1:06:47
Understand it. They think they think I would
1:06:51
rather a fair just Sunni take over Surya than Bashar al-Assad
1:06:58
100% but some of it's not going to work with America and Israel
1:07:02
someone that's going to help fight the resistance against
1:07:05
Israel. I don't want I don't want to see
1:07:08
any anyone from any Sunnah get killed Hash Alinda.
1:07:12
But look at look, this is by the way, history repeats itself.
1:07:17
History repeats itself. You you think when Salahuddin
1:07:20
Ayubi, he entered the Egypt, it was a Fatimid.
1:07:24
The Fatimid, the empire was there?
1:07:27
No. Yeah.
1:07:28
Do you know what they were doing?
1:07:30
They were killing babies, you know, around 150 years ago in
1:07:36
Afghanistan. And shout out to my Hazara
1:07:40
brothers and sisters. Voila, They are warriors.
1:07:42
Yeah. Do you know what they did 150
1:07:44
years ago? The king at the time, and no one
1:07:47
knows this. Their own historians say this.
1:07:50
Their own historians say this. Do you know what they said?
1:07:53
He goes. The king at the time, there was
1:07:55
a lot of Hazaras. Hazaras.
1:07:57
There was a big percentage of the Hazaras in Afghanistan.
1:08:00
Do you know why it went down? I'm going to tell you now, their
1:08:03
own historians say he got a fatwa from Saudi Arabia based
1:08:07
upon the words of Alam al Majlisi in his book Hayat al
1:08:12
Ulu, where he talks against Aisha.
1:08:16
So he got the fatwa That is permissible.
1:08:18
Kill them. They were throwing babies in the
1:08:21
air and catching them with Spears.
1:08:26
These are the people that were that we was fighting in Syria.
1:08:29
Yes, some of the rebel, some of the groups within the rebels
1:08:33
didn't support America and the Zionists.
1:08:35
Even at one point they started fighting each other and so on.
1:08:38
I get that. But at the end of the day, when
1:08:41
we are seeing that America and Israel is getting involved, what
1:08:44
do you want the people of Lebanon to do?
1:08:46
Open their doors? So it wasn't just about being
1:08:52
with Bashar, but Sharon was already fighting you and we had
1:08:55
to get involved and push you guys back.
1:08:58
No one wanted it, but that's just the reality of it.
1:09:03
Sorry I get a bit passionate. Forgive.
1:09:05
Me no, no support. Passion is great.
1:09:06
We need to understand. I think this goes to show for
1:09:09
everyone. History.
1:09:11
Look, today you've covered everything from contemporary
1:09:14
understanding and like understanding geopolitical stuff
1:09:17
today, recent history and modern history, as well as classical
1:09:21
history in Islam, Hadith, Quran, da.
1:09:24
We've touched on everything today, Hamdullah.
1:09:26
And I think the main thing, look, for me takeaways, which
1:09:29
I've learnt, of course, the first thing you talked about was
1:09:31
pride, having pride in our acquired, in our mud hub, on our
1:09:35
lineage, on our belief system and what we foresee and what we
1:09:39
are told is to come. And beyond that as well,
1:09:43
understanding generally how we yearn for unity amongst Omar.
1:09:47
We yearn to protect our Sunni brothers and sisters and vice
1:09:49
versa. We hope that's the same.
1:09:51
But we stand against extremism, fundamentalism, literalism when
1:09:54
it comes in any form or shape. But more so than ever, this is a
1:09:59
time where we need to be a united front against the
1:10:03
oppressor because we are facing, as we mentioned, an apartheid
1:10:06
state who will not stop at any means, at any means from
1:10:13
pillaging and destruction of innocent homes, families,
1:10:15
villages. And they will achieve their
1:10:18
goals if they have it their way. And unfortunately, it needs to
1:10:21
be such a case where the people of the world come against that,
1:10:25
fight against that and don't allow it to take place.
1:10:28
Because if that manifests, then we have a very, very unfortunate
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few years to come. And inshallah, listen, we know
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the coming weeks and months are going to be difficult, I think
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for everyone, but none more so than those who are battling on
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the ground and those who are losing family members and losing
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their lives, losing their loved ones because they are really
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doing the jihad. They are the ones who are
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surrendering to the will of a lost panel.
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They are doing the almost work. Yes, yes.
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And we have it easy in the West and we are, our concerns are our
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taxes and petrol prices and stuff like that.
1:11:06
You know, our grades, our grades in school and our relationship
1:11:11
with our parents and stopping listening to music.
1:11:13
And these are our struggles. We're now talking about a
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community of people, not just a community.
1:11:19
I need 2 million people in Gaza, okay, a million displaced in
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Lebanon, including your grandmother.
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May Allah bless her and protect her and her family there.
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These are people who are struggling and they need us now
1:11:30
more than ever. So we can't afford to be weak.
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We can't afford to be weak minded.
1:11:34
Weak willed. Ultimately, the jihad in Neffs
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is very important for us now because if we can say no to
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ourselves, if we can restrain from ourselves, then it'll be
1:11:46
easy for us to join the Imam inshallah because we know that
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we'll do the right thing. We have conviction, we have
1:11:51
experience of it. If we continuously do the right
1:11:54
thing and we prepare our nests and we become into a habit of
1:11:57
developing, I love for doing halal and wajibat and mustahabat
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and restraining and refraining from from Haram and makuru.
1:12:06
It will become easy for us to do the right thing at the at the
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right time. In Charlotte we pray to be alive
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with the whole of the Imam and if not, to return.
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With I think we should be nice if we recite that to end in
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Charlotte. Allah Humma Kuni Alikal Hajati
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Abdel Hassan. Yeah, I mean Allah, Muhammad.
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Muhammad, my Allah, hasten his reappearance, you know, read the
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lines of Mehta Tarana when Iraq and Inshallah that day comes
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very soon. Hassan.
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It's been an amazing conversation.
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So much I've. Learned so much and there's so
1:13:13
much I need to reflect on, you know, and we learn from Russell
1:13:15
Allah, Allah when he was telling me no, he says an hour of
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reflection is equal to 70 years of worship.
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And I think we can all use the opportunity to get closer to
1:13:24
Allah and build that amarafa with the Imam of our time during
1:13:28
these typical days. Santia and guys, listen, if you
1:13:31
were still tuning in, thank you so much.
1:13:33
We will try our best to keep doing this kind of conversation
1:13:37
and listen even if we revert back to the usual style of
1:13:40
conversation, the usual topics, we will continually update,
1:13:44
inform and Sharla educate ourselves such that we can share
1:13:49
with yourselves as well. But look, we don't want to be
1:13:52
silent and and passive and complicit in in in allowing the
1:13:57
aggression to take place towards our brothers, sisters and such.
1:14:00
We have a voice and we'll try our best to continue using it
1:14:03
inshallah. One more thing guys, if you are
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still listening and if you are UK based or even not, we are
1:14:11
hoping to release details and Shot Allah soon about an event
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we have taking place in Shot Allah in January.
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So it's still unconfirmed, it's still kind of lining things up,
1:14:22
but we want to do a grand celebration around the birth of
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Amiram, what Manin Alim Dalim Ali Salaam.
1:14:29
And we want to invite every single subscriber to come,
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everyone who tunes in week in, week out, whether you're a new
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or an old member of our family that we want to see you there.
1:14:37
So stay tuned, keep your eyes peeled.
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We're going to have an incredible lineup.
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We're going to have so many familiar faces.
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This is to you guys, those some of your favorites who have been
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on the podcast and maybe even some new faces who Charlotte we
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can introduce to our community here after Magadhab.
1:14:51
So stay tuned. Make sure you're keeping up to
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date. We'll release the details in
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Charlotte in due course once we finalized everything on social
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media. Aziz.
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