Latest / The OneCry Podcast / #182 Special Report - Looking Back and Looking Forward
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- 0:01So, my encouragement to be to our listeners, as you look back in your account
- 0:05and look forward, just get in the greatest position possible for the move of.
- 0:07Music.
- 0:11God that's coming for you and your church and in our land these days.
- 0:17Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
- 0:22The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
- 0:32Well, hello, One Cry family, and this is Byron Paulus, and I'm on podcasts from time to time.
- 0:38But today, I am so blessed to be able to be on a podcast with the co-host of
- 0:44the regular One Cry podcast, all the way from Mississippi, Kyle Reno.
- 0:51Kyle, this is a privilege for me, man.
- 0:55I don't get to hang out with you on podcasts like this, like Bill Elif gets
- 1:00to. So, man, thank you for joining us.
- 1:03Yeah, man, live from Brandon, Mississippi. Honored to be a part of it,
- 1:07and it's good to see you, too.
- 1:08Well, it's great to be together. And I just thought, as we come to the year end here in 2024,
- 1:15to be able to reflect about the podcast this past year, because it's really
- 1:21been an amazing year of impact among pastors and leaders particularly.
- 1:27And I think, Kyle, we're somewhere around, hovering around 175 podcasts.
- 1:33Most of which you have been a part of, which translates to about,
- 1:39what, three and a half years.
- 1:40From Mississippi, you can do good math. That's a lot of content.
- 1:45Yeah, it is. That's way out of my pay grade, man. Don't ask me to do the math on how long it is.
- 1:51It's been a lot. But the beauty of it, it's all things that come out of Bill's
- 1:56heart and my heart and things that I know that One Cry is passionate about and
- 2:00a heart for personal revival and see it spread across the nation.
- 2:04And we're in real-time moments where we've got testimony of things God's doing.
- 2:08So it's been a fun three-plus years, and I believe that there's more to come.
- 2:12And I think at the outset, we just kind of had a byline accelerating the movements of revival.
- 2:17And now it's not a matter of any form of having to initiate them.
- 2:21I mean, they are happening and they're happening in so many different places
- 2:26and so many different arenas.
- 2:28And I think obviously on campuses and Gen Z, it's amazing what we're watching God do.
- 2:34And then as we also look beyond that and the sports world, I mean,
- 2:39I don't want to mention any football teams from South Bend, Indiana,
- 2:44but the quarterback goes to my church and the coaches are meeting for Bible study.
- 2:50And that's happening in campuses. I mean, on sports programs everywhere,
- 2:54it seems like, and even in media and Christian films.
- 2:57And it just seems like that there is a movement and you and Bill and the whole
- 3:02podcast that the OneCry family has been able to accelerate those movements. What a blessing.
- 3:08And that's what I want to talk with you about today. Kyle, looking back on all
- 3:12the podcasts in 2024, I would think some of them kind of stand out where you would say,
- 3:21man, I just sense God's hand was on this, or I just sense it resonated with
- 3:26the pastors and particularly in leaders that are watching and listening to this.
- 3:31And I just wondered if just off your heart, Kyle, as you look back,
- 3:35what are some of those themes, and maybe a little cliff note,
- 3:40one takeaway maybe from that theme that just keeps lingering in your own heart.
- 3:46Yeah, I mean, I think the series that really Bill led through around the present-centered
- 3:51life, and man, if you've been around the One Cry podcast, you've heard this
- 3:55a lot, that everything flows from the presence of the Lord.
- 3:58I mean, like the desire to so position ourselves as personally,
- 4:02but as a people, as a church, as a nation to experience the presence of the Lord.
- 4:08And Bill had several teachings that led us to pray and to believe for God's presence personally.
- 4:15And the centrality of that, you see in Exodus, a lot of moments that he shared
- 4:19about where the desire to be distinct
- 4:22because of the manifest glory and transcendence and presence of God.
- 4:27So that was a teaching that I sat under and thought, man, yeah, that is so true.
- 4:32I think personally for me in 2024 and recounting just some of the podcast and
- 4:40really a word that God gave me for our church was looking at the moment where
- 4:44Jesus clears the temple and things that the Lord showed me about his why behind that.
- 4:50And that the desire was for the temple to be a place where people could experience the presence of God.
- 4:58And that the religious leaders had made it harder for far-from-God people to
- 5:05experience the presence of the Lord by setting up in the court of the Gentiles
- 5:10all the different merchandise things.
- 5:12It wasn't wrong for them necessarily to provide these things for people to bring for sacrifice,
- 5:17But where they did it had made it harder for far-from-God people to get as close
- 5:23to God's presence as possible,
- 5:25and that that was the one place that the Gentiles could come and pray and worship
- 5:31and make their offerings to the one true God.
- 5:35And it struck me that Jesus was irate at the idea that religion would make it
- 5:42harder for people to be in his father's house.
- 5:46And the correlating passage in Matthew 11, it shows us that moment again that
- 5:53Jesus has run people out of the temple.
- 5:56And once he's run everybody out, and I've referenced this in the podcast—.
- 6:01That when they're all run out, Gentiles, people that were sick and those that
- 6:07needed healing, came to Jesus in the temple.
- 6:11So defiled people that would not normally be able to come into the temple came
- 6:16into the presence of Jesus and he healed them there. Wow.
- 6:20And it's like when he got religion out of the way and real people that are desperately
- 6:26panting for God could come, they come. and then Jesus does what he does.
- 6:31He helps people in a profound way. And it just, for me, it made me as a pastor
- 6:36say, I want to remove all the obstacles.
- 6:39I want to make sure that there's no religious barriers.
- 6:43Instead, we're building bridges so that people far from God could come into
- 6:48the presence of God, into the presence of Jesus.
- 6:51And when that happens, Jesus changes lives. So that was probably a takeaway
- 6:56moment that I'm still, I'm leading in light of that truth still today.
- 7:02And you know, that reminds me, Kyle, of Duncan Campbell, I think it was,
- 7:06when asked, how do you define revival? He says, it's a going of God among His people.
- 7:13And I've often wondered, when you walk into churches today, most churches,
- 7:19most times, that it's the going of programs.
- 7:22It's a going of plans. It's a going of the charisma or the popularity of a particular individual.
- 7:31And how many times do I step in the church and I just say, God is here?
- 7:37And when it does happen, it's like we just fall on our faces and surrender.
- 7:43So I so appreciated that whole series on the presence of God.
- 7:48And I think you and Bill sometimes talk about a friend of Bill's called Richard
- 7:52Owen Roberts which is his name, and a real historian on revival.
- 7:55And he gave us a definition one time as revival being an extraordinary movement
- 8:01of God that produces extraordinary results.
- 8:05But then years later, he said, I changed my definition.
- 8:08And I remember thinking to myself, how can you do that to me?
- 8:11I've been quoting you all these years, you know?
- 8:13And he says, I'm shortening it. It's just God.
- 8:18It's the presence of God. And I so appreciated that whole series on that emphasis.
- 8:24And I think it's probably redirected the thinking of pastors as they prepare
- 8:30and plan and pray with their leadership for what even the Sunday worship service should be like.
- 8:37And they may be asking the questions, are we doing what the Bible says we need
- 8:42to do to evoke, to bring about the presence of God? So thank you for doing that series.
- 8:48It was so rich and so grateful for that.
- 8:52Any other particular series? I know you did a series on fasting and just numerous others.
- 8:58And I know there were special reports, even that I did a number of this last year,
- 9:03on stirrings and movements of God, especially with, we interviewed campus leaders
- 9:08like Drew Humphrey from Baylor and Jay Anderson, I think, from the POS movement.
- 9:14And my favorite was David Thomas
- 9:17from Asbury, who I think laid out more quality, I guess you would say,
- 9:25principles of revival, perhaps of any single one-hour message I've heard.
- 9:31So, so grateful for all those podcasts this last year.
- 9:36Yeah. Yeah, and I would just echo that with, I think, the building.
- 9:42I've, and this is mine. so everybody don't have to agree with me on this.
- 9:46I believe that revival has begun.
- 9:50And I'm not speaking from a hope so. I'm speaking from is here statement.
- 9:59And now, do I think it's at the magnitude yet? No.
- 10:02But I'm watching too much of what God is doing.
- 10:05If we're looking into the future, looking in 25, ending 24, I would just say
- 10:11to our listeners, Man, there is no overestimating.
- 10:17I guess you could underestimate what God has been cumulatively doing here for a couple years.
- 10:24And my faith for 25, and God doesn't work on calendar years.
- 10:30I believe our God's a God of seasons, and He's strategically putting things together.
- 10:34But practically for me and for my local church, the state of Mississippi,
- 10:40what we're seeing, I have great faith that the tide is swelling and that there's more to come.
- 10:49So my encouragement to be our listeners, as you look back and recount and look
- 10:53forward, just get in the greatest position possible for the move of God that's
- 10:59coming for you and your church and in our land in these days.
- 11:03And I remember, Kyle, when we launched these podcasts, we said,
- 11:06you know, this may not be the season where they'll be in the greatest demand,
- 11:10but when God begins to move,
- 11:12they're going to be looking for resources from those who have walked the pathway
- 11:19and sensed and have gotten to
- 11:21know the nature and the character of God and the ways of God in revival.
- 11:24And so I do believe this is a divine moment.
- 11:28It is a season, as you said, and what a season it is.
- 11:32And I would just add, and I think, Kyle, I'm sure you and Bill and others are
- 11:37picking up on this, just online on social media, the stories of revival that are happening.
- 11:46And I just picked up one this morning where at the North Carolina University
- 11:52of North Carolina, North Carolina State,
- 11:53I guess, they actually took chalk and wrote the whole Gospel of John on the
- 11:58sidewalks there at North Carolina State University.
- 12:02I mean, no one told them to do that.
- 12:04God's spirit had to come to the hearts of those students and say,
- 12:09hey, here's something that will attract other students. And it's the gospel
- 12:14of John written literally in chalk on that campus.
- 12:17So those are stories, right?
- 12:20Stories of where God is at work.
- 12:22And I'm with you. 2025, I believe,
- 12:26could be the explosion year of where God takes all these little pockets of revival
- 12:32and just above and beyond anything we could ever think or imagine.
- 12:40And I'm excited about that.
- 12:43So, Kyle, talk to me a little bit about a vision maybe that you've had.
- 12:48Why did you ever get involved in the One Cry podcast?
- 12:52What has been your hopes and desires? How would you like to see God use it?
- 12:57And I just love hearing your heart on that.
- 13:01Yeah, I mean, a statement I've used often in the podcast is,
- 13:05revival ruins you, and in the best ways possible.
- 13:10So for me, I didn't grow up in the faith, around the things of God.
- 13:14I walked into church, Garden of First Baptist in 1999, as a far from God 18, 19-year-old.
- 13:25And experienced the presence of God. And seven days later, was born again and
- 13:30immediately discipled by men that were white hot for God in the midst of a little
- 13:37r revival in a local church.
- 13:39And so I tell people all the time, I was ruined. I never knew,
- 13:42I didn't grow up in church around the things of God, so I didn't know church at all.
- 13:45But when I came to Christ, all I knew was a church fully alive.
- 13:50And it wasn't until later when surrendering to ministry and getting out a little
- 13:55bit more that I realized that wasn't normative, that that was abnormal.
- 14:01And so it ruined me. And by God's grace,
- 14:05I've been very blessed to be at churches that believe in the power of the Spirit
- 14:11and to be a Word and Spirit church and believe that the presence of God can
- 14:16change any person's life and heart and city and beyond.
- 14:20And so I guess my hope around the One Cry podcast is to take things that was
- 14:26invested into me through men like Steve Gaines and David Jett and Bill Eliff
- 14:32and in my generation to help hand those off to future leaders to rightly position
- 14:39the church for the future.
- 14:40I guess one of the greatest fears I have for the local church in the future
- 14:44is I'm I'm about to be 44 years old.
- 14:47There's a lot of guys like me that are starting to lead in different local churches,
- 14:52every expression, size, scope.
- 14:55But a lot have never experienced the manifest glory of God in a local church.
- 15:03They know church, but have never had the opportunity maybe to know a move of God.
- 15:11And I think the past generation's leaders, I take Steve's.
- 15:15And, you know, I go across the spectrum of they were shaped and their leadership
- 15:20was shaped by the Jesus movement.
- 15:23And the way they led in local expressions of the church.
- 15:26And I think that the church, Big C, in our nation have been led by men that
- 15:32were really marked by that era.
- 15:35Well, if we don't have a similar experience in our nation, will there be leaders
- 15:42that know how to lead and believe for more than merely doing church, a move of God?
- 15:49So I think our heart around this, I know, and my involvement was just to be
- 15:54able to maybe have a moment to share some things that I've caught with others.
- 16:01Wow, Kyle, I so appreciate that and what you said about not being satisfied
- 16:08with less than the manifest presence of God.
- 16:11I think the fear that I would have, and I'm sure you would join me in this, is that we would relax,
- 16:17that we'd say, hey, this is really cool what God's doing, and we would just
- 16:21sit back and watch instead of saying there's so much more,
- 16:25that the outpouring of God's Spirit, echoes of Pentecost, if you will,
- 16:29could change the world forever, and that we would believe Him and trust Him for that.
- 16:35And then finally, Kyle, as we wrap up here, if we can, here in a moment,
- 16:38but I just want to, I just want to say, and I think I sent you an email of, um.
- 16:45Conversation I had with a pastor in Uganda who said that he has listened to
- 16:5170 podcasts of the One Cry podcast,
- 16:55and he is leading 500 churches, I think it is, there in Uganda and bringing
- 17:00other denominations and streams into this One Cry movement, Uganda.
- 17:05And now One Cry leaders are going over there to just come alongside of him and
- 17:10to see it spread in other nations, apparently an influential leader there in
- 17:15a different stream than Kyle.
- 17:17You're in maybe, and I'm in typically, but a stream of just godly pastors seeking him.
- 17:23So we can never lose sight of the impact of how God uses digital world podcasts
- 17:32to impact entire nations.
- 17:35Kyle, I just thank you. Thank you for being an anchor on the podcast.
- 17:41Thank you for what your heart is and that you are speaking and pouring out your
- 17:46heart through a life message of something that you experienced.
- 17:50And therefore, the fire is coming forth. And I'm so grateful for that.
- 17:55So would you close in prayer and just close this time?
- 18:00Let's just cry out to God for revival and ask him to use not only one cry,
- 18:06obviously, but all the stirrings and movements that are taking place right now. Yeah, let's do it.
- 18:12Well, let's lean in together, as we always say to our listener,
- 18:15not to merely hear a prayer, but to participate, be a part of it. That's right.
- 18:20So join us in this as we pray. Lord, thank you.
- 18:24Thank you that there's no revival without a real God.
- 18:28And I thank you that you're real and that you're moving and doing in our day, that you're not done.
- 18:33You're not done in our nation and in the nations. So I ask for every listener
- 18:38and for every follower of Christ in the United States of America,
- 18:41God, would you give us faith?
- 18:44To believe, Lord, for the wind of your Spirit to blow,
- 18:48for the fire to fall, Lord, to see Jesus rightly glorified and exalted,
- 18:54and that, Lord, our nation and future generations changed, Lord.
- 19:00So, Father, I pray for the message of hope, Lord.
- 19:04I think that the enemy loves that doomsday message, Lord, But I pray for the
- 19:10hope that we have, that you're a rebuilder, a restorer,
- 19:15Lord, that you renew things, God, that the story in redemptive history is the
- 19:20fallenness and brokenness and how we just break things.
- 19:24But you can bring things to life.
- 19:27You can restore and renew and breathe.
- 19:31So, Lord, breathe on us as we look back over 24. Thank you for all you've taught us this year.
- 19:36And as we look forward into 25, help us to believe as big as our God.
- 19:41So, Lord, we look to you and ask that you would send a mighty movement of your
- 19:46spirit. In Jesus' name, amen.
- 19:48Well, amen and amen. And thank you, Kyle. And you listeners out there and viewers,
- 19:54I just want to say thank you for being faithful this past year.
- 19:58So many of you, week after week after week, just like that pastor in Uganda,
- 20:02are tuning in. You're listening.
- 20:04You're downloading. and many of you are just pushing the share button and sending
- 20:08it to others so they can listen.
- 20:11And if there's a moment in history that this is the time to get anything about
- 20:16revival out there to accelerate the movement.
- 20:21We just encourage you to do that and pray with us as we're trusting God for
- 20:26a major miracle to keep the One Cry podcast going forward and to multiply it during this moment.
- 20:32I remember just the Asbury revival, the one in the 70s, Dennis Kinlaw just wrote
- 20:38a little book, One Divine Moment, and this may be that one divine moment.
- 20:43So thank you, and God bless you, and thank you, Lord, for joining us.
- 20:48Music.