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Sentencing disparities · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Yesterday I was talking about the guy, the Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: former Ohio State player that was sittenced to five years
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  Speaker 1: for taking a life. I've got another story today that
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  Speaker 1: just shows you why I get so blasted and frustrated
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  Speaker 1: with our legit justice system because it's out of whack.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is out of whack. Also, I did not get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to talk last night about the whole how
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  Speaker 1: could you sell out to my grandson thing? I want
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  Speaker 1: to get into that tonight, assuming nothing else gets in
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  Speaker 1: my way, because you know how I am. I want
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  Speaker 1: to give you a good news story though, right off
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  Speaker 1: the bat from JFK Airport, the John F. Kennedy Airport
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  Speaker 1: up there in New York. Did you see this already, Zachary,
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  Speaker 1: Because this isn't a typical story. No, I have an
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  Speaker 1: ICE agent saved the life of an unresponsive baby at
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  Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York after the
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  Speaker 1: child stopped breathing.
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  Speaker 2: Well how about that?
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  Speaker 1: Maxine Waters probably doesn't want this story to get out,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll tell you anyway. DHS said on Thursday shared
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  Speaker 1: security footage of the incident. They noted the infant was
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  Speaker 1: waiting in line with a family member at security checkpoint.
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  Speaker 1: When the agent rushed in to help, the baby just
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  Speaker 1: just stopped breathing. The quote here says the panic of
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  Speaker 1: the child's family and nearby passengers were heard by an
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  Speaker 1: ICE agent who was stationed at this checkpoint. The heroic
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  Speaker 1: officer immediately sprang to action, rushing towards the christ, taking
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  Speaker 1: the child, performing a Heimlich maneuver that restored the infants breathing.
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  Speaker 1: After nearly two minutes, DHS said the infant regained consciousness
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  Speaker 1: before emergency medical personnel arrived at the scene. Child's condition
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  Speaker 1: after the incident not immediately released. While officers did not
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  Speaker 1: name the agent or the child, Fox News says the
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  Speaker 1: infant was involved or that was involved was a one
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  Speaker 1: year old baby boy. The media outlet also said it
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  Speaker 1: marks the second time a child has been saved by
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  Speaker 1: an ICE agent in the last month or so. So
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  Speaker 1: there you go. See, those are the stories you don't hear.
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  Speaker 1: And I just want to make sure that I brought
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  Speaker 1: to your attention to night because and I hope there
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  Speaker 1: are no repercussions. Isn't it sad to say that the
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  Speaker 1: agent saved a baby's life and I have to say
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  Speaker 1: there are no repercussions for it, But you know how
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  Speaker 1: people are.
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  Speaker 2: Would that fall under good Samaritan even though he's working enough.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, especially in New York, where you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you stop somebody from killing people on the subway,
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  Speaker 1: you go to court for it. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking out loud.
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea. Everybody wants a lawsuit, everybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to get paid. So, you know, let's say we didn't
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  Speaker 1: give him permission to perform a baby Heimlich on our
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  Speaker 1: baby boy. There's always you never know with people these days.
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  Speaker 1: So I say it, you know, tongue in sarcastic cheek.
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  Speaker 1: I hope there are no repercussions for this ice agent
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  Speaker 1: saving the baby's life. Yesterday, as I talked about the
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  Speaker 1: five lousy five years received by this guy for driving
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  Speaker 1: drunk way drunk, seriously drunk, very very very very very drunk,
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  Speaker 1: the wrong way, one hundred and twenty six miles an
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  Speaker 1: hour one direction, one hundred fourteen miles an hour hour
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  Speaker 1: the other direction, struck and killed a twenty four year
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  Speaker 1: old man just at the beginning of life. And you
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  Speaker 1: really are at that age, you really are I've tried
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  Speaker 1: to tell that to my kids, to my grandkids. You
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  Speaker 1: think you're an adult at eighteen, Oh, I'm an adult. No.
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  Speaker 1: The difference between you at eighteen and you at twenty
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  Speaker 1: one will be extreme. The difference between you at twenty
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  Speaker 1: one and you in twenty five is extreme. So this
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  Speaker 1: young man's just really coming into his own, just about
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  Speaker 1: to begin real serious adulthood. He'll never be an adult.
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  Speaker 1: And for ending his life, this guy gets five years.
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  Speaker 1: Then tonight comes this story that a man, a man
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  Speaker 1: convicted of stealing money, builking customers out of four hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, goes to court marrying Mann. Prosecutors say he
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  Speaker 1: took hundreds of thousands of dollars from customers for pole
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  Speaker 1: barns and other construction projects, but he never delivered the work.
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  Speaker 1: He has been sentenced to at least seventeen years in prison.
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  Speaker 1: I am not excusing this guy's conduct. I am in
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  Speaker 1: no way excusing what he did. But he gets seventeen
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  Speaker 1: years for money when yesterday we were talking about five
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  Speaker 1: years for ending a life. Our system of justice, the
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  Speaker 1: penalties portion needs to be seriously reworked. It's amazing that
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  Speaker 1: just twenty four hours later, I have a prime example
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  Speaker 1: of exactly what I've been griping about for years. We're
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  Speaker 1: very select. This is the frailty of a human based
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  Speaker 1: justice system. And I'm in no way saying let's go
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  Speaker 1: all Logan's run. But human beings have their prejudices and
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  Speaker 1: their biases, and unfortunately, I think they show you've got
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  Speaker 1: a you know, a former Buckeye takes life, gets five years.
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  Speaker 1: This guy, Ryan C. Needles seventeen years at least. He
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  Speaker 1: was the owner of a company called Clearview Construction. Convicted
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  Speaker 1: on forty seven felony counts sentenced in Delaware Common Police Court,
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  Speaker 1: Needles defrauded customers of more than four hundred thousand. Authorities
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  Speaker 1: also said that Needles ran a long term scheme in
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  Speaker 1: which he accepted large payments for pole barns or other
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  Speaker 1: construction projects, but instead stole the victims money. A long
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  Speaker 1: term scheme. If it was long term, Wohnen't you say
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  Speaker 1: think we're to get around, especially in this age of
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  Speaker 1: social media, just saying charges included engaging in a pattern
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  Speaker 1: of corrupt corrupt activity, telecommunity caations, fraud, seven counts of
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  Speaker 1: money laundering, and thirty eight counts of theft. Neil's pled
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  Speaker 1: or previously entered a guilty plead to some of the
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  Speaker 1: counts in the indictment, but that plea was appealed and
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  Speaker 1: the convictions were vacated at least seventeen years for mere money.
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  Speaker 1: Does that? I don't know. How do we even decide?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the process. To be honest with you,
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  Speaker 1: I do not know the process deciding what a crime
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  Speaker 1: is worth when it comes to jail time. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have any idea how that works? Act? Does somebody just
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  Speaker 1: make it up?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's all the things are different, different states,
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  Speaker 2: and whatever the reasoning is, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I got plenty of lawyers that listen, a couple of
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  Speaker 1: actually retired judges that listen to, and one prosecutor. So
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  Speaker 1: if any of them happened to be listening, I seriously
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  Speaker 1: I would love I would love a realistic answer to that.
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  Speaker 1: Who decides? How is it decided what crime is worth
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  Speaker 1: what time? I don't know if you were you know
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  Speaker 1: you're too young to remember this, Zach, But back in
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  Speaker 1: the nineties when crack cocaine was all the rage and
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  Speaker 1: we had a big you know, if you were caught with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, half a pound a crack, you would get
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  Speaker 1: four times the jail time. Is somebody who was caught
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  Speaker 1: with half a pound of pure cocaine.
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  Speaker 2: I do remember, well, I don't remember it, but I
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  Speaker 2: remember reading about it.
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  Speaker 1: And the half a pound of pure cocaine was generally
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  Speaker 1: because it was you know, it was found in the
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  Speaker 1: back of a Dolorean or something. It wasn't found in
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  Speaker 1: the hood in the pocket of a hoodie, a kid
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  Speaker 1: on the corner. Good what you need, what you need,
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  Speaker 1: what you need. That's that was the problem. It was
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  Speaker 1: essentially racially based prosecution. You both had a half a
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  Speaker 1: pound of cocaine, one in the form of pure cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: one in the form of crack cocaine. The choice of
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  Speaker 1: a poor generation and the people on the poor end
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  Speaker 1: of the economic scale, which were largely non white, we're
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  Speaker 1: getting ridiculous penalties as compared to the people on the
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  Speaker 1: upper end with you know, oh yes, I had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of kilos darling, but they let us go.
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  Speaker 2: I have read that that was a massive problem in
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  Speaker 2: California in the mid eighties to mid nineties.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a little bit further.
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  Speaker 2: They had arbitrary. What if you had five I'm guessing akis,
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly like five pounds of this you
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  Speaker 2: got a major sentence, But if you had four pounds
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  Speaker 2: and nine ounces then it wouldn't be as bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it did, does crack, especially the whole system needs
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  Speaker 1: needs revamped. And I don't and again, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: how you do this. I don't know who decides or
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  Speaker 1: what the method is for deciding what a penalty should be.
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  Speaker 1: I just know that in the last twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 1: I I've told you about a man who did things
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  Speaker 1: and a life was lost because you know, he chose
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  Speaker 1: to get on the road and drive at ridiculous rates
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  Speaker 1: of speed with three times the legal limit of alcohol
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  Speaker 1: in his system, and a twenty four year old person
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  Speaker 1: is dead. And this guy goes to jail for five years.
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  Speaker 1: And then this man who stole money, scammed people out
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  Speaker 1: of bucks saying he was going to build him a
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  Speaker 1: pole barn or whatever, stole money. That gets him seventeen
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  Speaker 1: years at least in jail, plus he has to pay
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  Speaker 1: for it at forty eight thousand dollars back. That's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: That is wrong. This is something I guess we have
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  Speaker 1: to I don't even know who you would talk to.
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  Speaker 1: We need to find this out, because I mean this
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  Speaker 1: very legitimately. We need to have this conversation and it
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  Speaker 1: needs to be it needs to be brought to the fore.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what your racing is. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: what your economic status is. I don't care about who
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  Speaker 1: you go to bed with at night. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about how you identify whatever. None of it matters. What
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  Speaker 1: matters is if you're convicted of a crime, here's what
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  Speaker 1: the penalty should be, and there should be no more.
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  Speaker 1: This just arbitrary. Yeah, well we'll give you five years.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry this this is wrong, or maybe that's just me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I'm overreacting eight two one ninety
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  Speaker 1: eight six number eight two one WTV. And you're always
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  Speaker 1: welcome to call and tell me why I'm wrong, although
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  Speaker 1: I will never ever agree with you.