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S5 E18 Safari of Death - Larry Rudolph's Dark Secret · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 3: The truth behind this insane story tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, tonight, we're covering the Keys of Partney of Larry Rudolph. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he's a danist.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so today recover in the case of Larry Rudolph,
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  Speaker 1: who is a dentist and a big game hunter whose
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  Speaker 1: wife died in a tragic hunting accident or did she?
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  Speaker 3: Before we get into what we're drinking. I need to
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  Speaker 1: That's fine. I feel like it's going to be the second,
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  Speaker 1: Anyway. You're drinking, all right, So tonight I'm drinking Cave
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  Speaker 1: and Cove, Miss American Moscato. It says nothing about it,
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's all I have to share about that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm drinking tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I am drinking a Chateau viven Rose and let's
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  Speaker 3: see what it says.
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  Speaker 2: It's in French, miss.
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  Speaker 1: You always get the French ones.
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  Speaker 3: Well, because I'm going to Paris with one of my
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, love that, love that, well, you guys, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into where we're all here, the case of Larry Rudolph. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so if you're already, you're all going to be pissed
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  Speaker 1: because we've been pissed too. So prepare yourselves. Prepare yourselves.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start off with Lawrence Rudolph. We call him Larry,
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  Speaker 1: his real name is Lawrence. He had everything, a successful
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  Speaker 1: dental practice, a beautiful wife, too, smart and loving children.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with all the dentists
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  Speaker 1: lately covering on the show. We can't escape them. And
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  Speaker 1: that's how came the show to dental crimes and mind
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  Speaker 1: time for sure, that's.
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  Speaker 3: How I wound up in the Intadunti's chair and I
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  Speaker 3: told her today, I said, it's all because on my
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  Speaker 3: podcast we covered dentists and now here I am.
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  Speaker 1: I think the last is when we did Lady and
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  Speaker 1: Gray had to go to the dentist the next day.
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  Speaker 1: That's where she listened to it.
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  Speaker 3: Can we cover people who win the lotteries, then maybe
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  Speaker 3: we'll win the lottery.
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  Speaker 1: Are there have they committed crimes? I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I there are people who've been killed for the lottery winnings.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to need to look into that.
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  Speaker 2: That's people on the back end.
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  Speaker 3: Could you like write that down and editor list, then
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  Speaker 3: maybe we'll win the lottery.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, I hope. So I forgot to put the pictures
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  Speaker 1: up here. On goodness, that's Larry, everybody. I'm sorry. I'm
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  Speaker 1: also reading Entertaining and running a sly show tonight.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, physically not unattractive, but as a person
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  Speaker 3: he's the idios.
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  Speaker 1: The worst, the worst, separating the lies from the two.
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  Speaker 1: To get out of hair, elbow feet, you're out of key,
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  Speaker 1: but guys.
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  Speaker 3: Larry met his wife, Bianca Finisio, in the cafeteria at
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  Speaker 3: the University of Pittsburgh. Larry was getting his DMD, or
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  Speaker 3: Doctor of Medicine and Dentistry, and Bianca was an undergrad.
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  Speaker 3: They got married in nineteen eighty two. Guys, you can
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  Speaker 3: tell from that hand that hat tells you all you
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  Speaker 3: need to know about what era it was. Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just after she graduated, guy, they spent their newlywood years
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  Speaker 3: building his dental practice, Total Dentistry.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Bianca worked in his office until they became parents, when
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  Speaker 3: she shifted her attention to raising her children, while Larry
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  Speaker 3: built the business that would support the family.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, and business was good because eventually they
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  Speaker 1: bought another home. Traveling between Pittsburgh and Arizona. Look at
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  Speaker 1: these houses. Look at those that's ridiculous. They're beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I wouldn't suck to live in one,
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  Speaker 2: but I.
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  Speaker 1: U huh, I said, I take both.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I'll take Beth.
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  Speaker 1: And their income also supported a very expensive hobby of theirs.
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  Speaker 2: We're not talking.
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  Speaker 1: Larry and Bianca were both avid big game hunters, and
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  Speaker 1: with that we must now address the elephant in the
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  Speaker 1: room unintended. You guys are not going to like this
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  Speaker 1: picture and promise not to leave it up for that long.
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  Speaker 1: But I hate them.
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  Speaker 2: I hate them a lot.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a pecture of an elephant, but that's just
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  Speaker 3: as bad, just as bad. Now, this is a controversial
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  Speaker 3: topic for some. Okay, you guys know we love our
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  Speaker 3: animals here at True Crime and Wine Time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: my god, I now have three goats who would have
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  Speaker 3: funked that. But obviously there are responsible ways to hunt,
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  Speaker 3: and if you're following laws and safety requirements, I got
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  Speaker 3: no problem with you, guys. It also can be used
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  Speaker 3: for population control, for food, for hides, and for all
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  Speaker 3: sorts of things that are actually useful. Okay, so that
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  Speaker 3: an animal didn't die in vain. Now, guys, I will
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  Speaker 3: tell you I was raised in a family that hunted.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the deer lease every weekend, saw it happen.
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  Speaker 3: My dad quit taking me in the deer lease because
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  Speaker 3: we want to pull the gun up to go to shoot.
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  Speaker 3: I would make noise and scare the deer off because
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  Speaker 3: I didn't like that. But I will eat venison, I
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  Speaker 3: will eat jerky. All of that I'm okay with. If
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  Speaker 3: you do it and you eat them and you utilize it,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be there to see it, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I don't personally even like to kill insects, except for
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  Speaker 3: all spiders. Okay, So I don't really understand seeing an
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  Speaker 3: exotic animal I'm thinking, ooh.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to kill the heck out of that either.
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  Speaker 3: And I also don't see the joy in killing something
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  Speaker 3: just to hang its head on the wall or dump
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  Speaker 3: its body unless as directs husband. I mean, there's that,
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  Speaker 3: there's I will get off my snowbox, but it will
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  Speaker 3: probably con I mean, I have a problem with that.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, I've heard in some places, and like Tanzania,
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  Speaker 3: they do take the meat from the big game and
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  Speaker 3: they do feed, you know, the poorer populations.
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  Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 3: But also guys can hunts. Can hunts where you go
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  Speaker 3: sit there and they make it come to you.
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  Speaker 2: That's not really hunting.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, not okay with it. I don't like any
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  Speaker 1: of it. Oh, I damn it.
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  Speaker 3: We absolutely not. Elbow feet, no, pan di skin, rugs.
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  Speaker 1: Pantas are the words, but no even that, emmon, guns,
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  Speaker 1: don't tell the stupid pandas just because you can. It's
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  Speaker 1: weird and I don't like it. But anyway, so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So both Larry and beyonda or into hunting exotic animals
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  Speaker 1: and often traveling to different locales to hunt. Larry became
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  Speaker 1: the president of the Oh Honan Again Doom both come on,
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  Speaker 1: get together, mama. Larry became the president of the Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: chapter Safari Club International, an organization whose website states their
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  Speaker 1: mission as quote, to defend the freedom to hunt and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: promote wildlife conservation worldwide. I don't think Safari Club is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a good name for that, because that makes it seem
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like you're non killing animals. You're going to look at them.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: But okay, anyway. They also have a political action committee
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that lobby's governments internationally, and Larry even received the weather
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: be Award for his Hunting Achievement outstanding support of conservation
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: and a dedication to ethical sport hunting.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Sure, they even built their own hunting cabin in Zambia.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, do you guys know that to go
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: kill these big animals, it's like forty thousand dollars.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of money.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Think of other better things you could spend the money.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: So I do not I do not like these people.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I do not respect these people. It is very hard
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: to give a shit about anybody in the story. But
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: here we are.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm going to just go on record right now.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: If somebody wants to send me an email and explain
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: it to me. I do not understand how conservation and
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: hunting go hand in hand when some of these animals
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: are on the near extinction list and yet you go
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to certain countries and you can kill them.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Albophie says the money actually is what makes
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: up the majority of the funding for the reserves. That
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: is true. It does help in that degree. But again
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it's be as people having like the need to spend
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: all of this money to do like I can't, and.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: They do it more than once, so it's not like
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: they just go once do it. Why don't you just
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: donate money to the conservation.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm sure they just will take money. But okay, anyway,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. We're coming out the soapboxing. Okay, we're
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: just moving on. Anyway. Why don't you tell us more Terry?
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at one point Larry had a little
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: hunting accident. Now there were no witnesses, and there are
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: two different versions out there of what happened on this
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: safari in Zambia. One city shut off the tip of
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: one of his thumbs. He told a fellow Safari club
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: member that it was bitten off by a ten foot crocodile. Guys,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: did he steal that from Captain Hook?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Your crook, Captain Hook? Sorry, that's an arrested development joke
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: from my arrested development friends.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Now, he said he was pulling a fish from the
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: water when I crocodile bit his thumb and pulled him
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: into the water, where they proceeded to wrestle. And obviously
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Larry won and had no other injuries from this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I oh, so you wrestled a freaking crocodile that pulled
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: you into the water into All you lost was the
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: tip of your thumb. Like, sure, jam, he needs to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: lay off nitrous. Okay, he's got a whole supply. And
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: this is the most insane story I have ever heard.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: I I mean, I have a pretty good idea of
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: what story is true. But either way, he lost some
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: use of one of his thumbs, which was a problem
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: for a dentist.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: He had to file for disability in two thousand and six.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Oh God, this guy, this guy. So by two thousand
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: and seven he was collected thirty thousand dollars a month
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: in disability. Y'all heard, correctly, thirty thousand dollars a month
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: in disability for a freaking missing thumb. Tip, like, are
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you kidding me?
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: I buy big insurance policies or I know surgeons do
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: some assuming dentists do too, for their hands, so that
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: if something happens, you can do that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: It's only to like, it's this little nub thirty thousand,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: don't get out of here, and it's on his left hand.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Get out of here, all right? But anyway, Total dentistry
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: has has become a chain of practices at this point,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and he was still working there in more of a
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: managerial capacity, which I did not understand how he got
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: disability and yet was still.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Working because he could no longer perform the duties he
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: went to school for, so he made less money.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: But he can though. I'm literally it's a tip of
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: your thumb on your left hand. Get out of here, sir.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I don't leave you. What a joke. I keep this guy.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: So we started to gain a reputation at work for
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: his temper. He was known to throw objects so hard
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: they stuck in the walls for days, because apparently he's fore.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He even allegedly threw a syringe at a coworker, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: all the while he would yell at them for being unprofessional.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when you fought a cropdial you
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: behave however you want, apparently, but other partners at the
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Chin wanted him gone out. Larry attempted to sue the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: chain for defamation, but the partners were one step ahead.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: They noticed some let's say, creative booking from Larry and
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: his time there. He was told to walk away or
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: they would be pressing charges against him for investment. And
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I bet his excuse was the crocodile ate all the money.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Probably probably now.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Larry of course denied in bestling, but he did separate
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: from the practice, starting a new group of dental offices
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: known as Three Rivers of Things.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I keep forgetting. You're the sleigh show. I skipped a slide.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to do this one a little while ago.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: When he said the captain hooked fingers.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, why would you?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Oh that's sweet little that's the crocodile from Tatianace Frog.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I think Spearman.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I was not the one from Princess and the Frog
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: where he gets up on the boat and he plays
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: the trumpet.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never actually seen that is we
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: talked about that, but anyway, so.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, but because he is a petty little bitch. The
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: first location was five hundred feet from his old job.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, Now, Three.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Rivers grew to a group of five offices in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh area specializing in sedation dentistry.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm here for that.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Larry's assistant at Three Rivers, Sherry Hawk, said, I liked
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: everything about how we treated our patients, and I really
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: believed in everything we did, in how he did it.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: And I don't know why. I just got an accent.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Especially when they're in Pittsburgh, Terry, but I love it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You stick with it. I like it.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: It was the Hawk that did it. It was the name.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I like it. Keep using that because well, we'll hear
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: more from Sherry. So Larry and Bianca's children grew up
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to be successful in their own right. Julian became a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: lawyer in Florida, and Anna Bianca or Anna, became a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: dentist herself, working at her father's practice. Julian said that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Larry was a good father who was generous and charismatic.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: He also noted that his father worked a lot, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: he said his mother was amazing and his best friend.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I mean he's attractive. I mean he's doing and she
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: does have very pretty eyes. Yes, now Larry's assistant, Okay,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I'll try not to.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Sherry said that.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Anna described her mom as like an angel. She loved
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: her mom. People knew that Bianca Rudolph described her as
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: a very kind, caring person. Sarry herself did not know Bianca.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Bianca had never come into the office. Sherry assumed that
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: was because of Larry's affair with his office manager, Laurie Milron.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: To just tell you, as a former's doctor's wife, why
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: would you not go to the office and make sure
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: everybody there knew who the heck you were. It would
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: have not happened if you were there and they were
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: scared of you. Just saying now, Larry and Laurie's affair
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: just seemed like it was very open as far as
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I know, it was probably going on for twenty years.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: It was just uncomfortable and you just didn't talk about it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, Larry really did have everything, Yeah, except for
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: two working thumbs. I guess. Larry took Laurie on many
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: trips and gave her expensive gifts. As they you. This
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: guy is just the worst.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, why would you have your daughter come to
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: work with you there.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if she worked in that specific
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Remember he owns a chain, so I don't know if
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the daughter worked at that specific one.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Or we went to the same point. But they talk there.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: I got so many questions.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: But okay, he.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Probably like let her have her own building and stuff.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: It didn't take long for Larry's temper to show it
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: the new dental practice because guys, guess what, I guess
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the tiger can't change their stripes.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Oh she managed the chain.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, interesting Now, as assistant Cherry recalled, Larry could be
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: very nice and he could change attitude within a matter
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of minutes. He could throw temper tantrums and we would
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: sort of just call it like he was going Rudolph.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: That's never good.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: She decided that behavior is one of the reasons she
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: eventually left her job at the practice. That and because
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: I gave her a god awful accent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: That's why she left.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I just want to throw potatoes at
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this guy that was in chat. Feel free to throw
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: all the potatoes at this guy. We hate him. It's fine,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: nobody likes him. So as we said before, Larry was
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: an active member. Yeah, we won't leave that up for
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: too long. I just want everybody to hate this guy
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: even more so. As we said before, Larry was an
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: active member of the Safari Club International. Then he was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the president of the Pittsburgh chapter, and then he became
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: president of the whole board of directors in two thousand
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and nine, and that's a pretty big deal. Unfortunately for him, though,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: his term was cut short when in twenty twelve he
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: was voted out by the club and stripped of his awards.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Oh what, Larry, honest, Larry what? There were reports that
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: he quote used his title to commit adult truth. Okay,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Apparently they were not happy about Larry taking Laurie on
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: an SCI trip to meet Sarah Bailin. No, that's not
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: how that works. There, we got a giant crab. No anyway, Yes,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: there you go, Kavin there and all the datos and chat.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Please please keina what and set potatoes? Come in to
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: throw bottles or something.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: That's something a little more painful.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: He did not take this well, as y'all could imagine,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: because it hurt his little feelers, okay, I mean his
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: ego and the legal battle begin SCI filed litigation that
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Rudolph was negligent and damaged its reputation. Larry denied all
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: accusations of adultery and secretly recorded a conversation with an
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: s FI official, releasing it on social media with the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: title Safari Club International SCI President tells the truth on video.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Rudolph exonerated.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Of course he did. Of course he did.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: So then they filed another lawsuit for invasion of privacy
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: because of that video. Here's a heavily cut down version
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: of the original, because we don't want any legal trouble
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: with a bunch of hunters, But we did want you
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: to get a little taste of Larry's famous charisma as
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: he walks in front of a various fake background.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: You guys ready for this, I'm ready for every long Okay.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Hi, my name is Larry Rudolph. As a fellow hunter
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: and conservationist, you may know me for my many years
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: as a strong supporter of both hunting and conservation. Maybe
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: we just shared a laugh over a great hunting story
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: and glass of wine. You know, I've been very fortunate
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: as a hunter, having collected nearly big game species and
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: most of the major international hunting awards that it became
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: apparent to myself and others that SCI was being abused, mismanaged,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: and controlled by several of its past presidents for personal
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: financial benefit, their personal agenda and benefit overshadowing the best
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: interest of SCI and hunting. They instead chose an age
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: old tactic to destroy the messenger using their ethics process
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: to regain their political power.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Not ethics.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: No.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: As a result, SCI chose instead to defame and slander
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: my reputation in a mean spirited a town, culminating in
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: my expulsion. In hunting terms, we call this a hard shot,
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: and it was designed to kill me in the interest
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: of the truth and hunting. Please take a few minutes
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: to listen to this video. I mean, they could have
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: just spank me, They.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Could have just staked me. How did we just watch?
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: What is that madness?
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, did he say he has seen over three hundred
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: or he has killed over three hundred?
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I think over three hundred.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: So basically he is killing animals because he wants to
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: be a serial killer in real.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Life very much.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I don't like this guy.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: I don't like this guy so.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Any of the people in the story. But you know what,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite part of the video. Is is
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the way he talks about ethics like they're mythological, like
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: those pesky ethics. How dare they They're trying to sabotage
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: me with ethics? Gross mill. Anyway, he was putting this
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: stuff out there as if it wasn't just making things
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: worse and screwing over the one guy who liked him
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: that was left at the sci and surprisingly Bianca was
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: supportive throughout, saying, quote, we discussed it, we resolved it,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we moved on. It's done. Like okay, okay, sure, okay.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: The Rudolph's moved to their Arizona home in twenty twelve.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: The dentistry practice remained in Pennsylvania, and Larry traveled back.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And fourth for work.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Talk about a commute commute doth Laurie live in at
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: this time? That's what I was trying, mind is I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: think so? I think she has looked in Pittsburgh. That's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: what I think about that. Anyway, though the lawsuits would
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: continue for years, and it certainly didn't change Larry's love
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: of hunting. No no. He and Bianca flew to Zambia
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: many times in twenty sixteen, and in October twenty sixteen
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: they traveled to Kafui National Park in Zambia. I love
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: the name of this place to get to say Kafui
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: live now.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I want to know because I mean, I really hope
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: he was looking for his thumb while he was there.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I hope so too. So Kafui National Park is one
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: of the largest wildlife reserves in Africa. Look at how
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: big and beautiful that is. Gorgeous. So it's adjacent to
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a game management area with a highly regulated hunting season
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: allowing the hunt of species like antelope, buffalo, leopards, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: even lions. And the Rudolphs went to Zambia because Bianca
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: one and two hunts a leopard. Oh, I want to
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: get on the soapbox again, but I won't. I won't,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I won't it just it makes it so difficult to
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: root for you, Bianca.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, Bianca, just go buy a leopard print outfit
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: or something a fake for leopard print coat.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: So hard.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: So in Kafui, the rudolph stayed in their two room cabin.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: It was a bedroom and a bathroom. The cabin next
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: door was referred to as a dining area, but presumably
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: also how the guest.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Who weren't sleeping with Larry.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Even know.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: They were there for ten days. A local game scout,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Spencer Kukuma, accompanied them on their hunts. He said they
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: seemed very happy. They were laughing at each other, kissing
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: each other, lugging each other. I didn't see any tension
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: for the hunt that had brought two weapons, a Remington
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: three seventy five rifle and a Brown Browning twelve gage shotgun.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I want to know why they took two, but that's.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, one for each of them. I guess. Well, Bianca
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: did not kill a leopard by she didn't kill numerous
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: other animals on their trip, including a hippo, zebra, a warthog,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and an impala.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: She killed pumba.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Larry did not actively. I just want you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: to remember that she hung to the zebra because I'm
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: going to point something out later, So just ring over that,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: all right, Larry did not actively hunt on the trip,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: do it? Two limitations on permits. The trip was drawing
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to a close and they had one more night at
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the cabin.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: At approximately five point thirty am on October eleventh, twenty sixteen,
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: a shot and a scream rang out in the remote
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: lodging area spencer Kakuma and hunting guide Mark Swanapole were
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: nearby and ran to Rudolph's cabin. They found Larry Rudolph's
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: shouting for help and Bianca Rudolph on the floor bleeding
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: from a large wound.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: In her chest. Swanna Pole said that the.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Browning shotgun was nearby on the floor, sticking out of
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: a partially zipped soft sided case with a large hole
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: from the blast.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Hmmm interesting now. Kakoma said that he and Swanapple had
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: only been about thirty yards away and they made it
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to the cabin cavin in roughly fifteen seconds to find
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Rudolph's all sobbing. Let me just kill myself because my
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: wife she just committed suicide. She just killed herself. I
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: just want to kill myself. Also, Rudolph said he had
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: been in the bathroom when his wife shot herself, and
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: he was so distraught he immediately ran to the nearby riverbank,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: saying he was going to drown himself. Oh, Tacoma topped
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to Larry down and they returned to the cabin. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: two points, how did he go straight to suicide when
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: there was a hole in the case? What a weird
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: fricking thing to say. Seems more like your first off
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: would be like an accident and Venice sue side right.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to just go to suicide first. That's weird.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And two, sir, that was dramatics are a bit over
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: the top. I don't even think I did my rendition justice,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to be quite honest.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think Buffy would do a great
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: reenactment of it.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: But I'm sorry.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: If there's a hole in the rifle case, why would
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: you instantly go to suicide?
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And she was happy? Y'all were laughing she killed all
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: these animals. Why was she depressed?
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird except for she's sorry. Wow, don't worry,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna joke with that later.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Kathui National Park investigator masamuse Say found the crime scene
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: to be troubling. The barrel of the shotgun was so long,
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: he wondered how she could have pulled the trigger.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: With it facing her.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: He later said, I suspected this to be foul play
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: because the way the firearm was lying, the way the
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: deceased was lying, the way the bullet went through. Because
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: to me to say that she shot herself, uh, I'm sorry.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I doubt it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: And let's not forget that Bianca was an experienced hunter
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: and guys, she would have known better than to aim
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: a weapon at herself even if she thought it was unloaded.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: M doesn't make no sense.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Oh were you peeing?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I was not peeing. I was pouring more wine, you guys. Okay.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: But there was another inconsistency, by the way, because scout
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Spencer Cocoma watched Bianca unload and cleaned the rifle the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: previous night, as they did after each and every hunt
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: as part of their safety protocol. So he's like, what
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: why is this?
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: So why would is she reloaded somebody into inntionally loaded it?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Now, when Rudolph was interviewed by the Zambian police, his
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: story had changed. He no longer thought that Bianca had
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: died by suicide, but this had been a tragic accident.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Bianca had shot herself while packing up the shotgun, all
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: while Larry had been taking a shower. The interview lasted
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: about thirty minutes. Police Commander Ross Stone Yaya yanga, Okay,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: story guy said simply I believed him because I wasn't there.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, sir, that is not good it's not good detective work.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: You know, criminals lie, right, sir, right.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Let get out of here anyway. Kacoma was shocked to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: hear this new version of the story, especially because Rudolph
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: had been fully dressed wearing shoes less than a minute
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: after the gunshot. He told police he'd only been wearing
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: a towel.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: So my first thought in question here is how did
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: he lie about having a mistress for twenty years? Because
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: let me tell you, he sucks it lying.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she knew about it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I I yeah.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: But now Kukoma and Musseyse voice their concerns to the police.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Mussese later said, the Zambian police told me that they
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: would really investigate the issue.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: They didn't.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to just go on the limb and say
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: thank you eighties music man.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought she's good. Oh, africantings are hard, so
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: we have little cheat sheets throughout this. She's doing great
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: nailing it because she has all the names. For some reason,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that wasn't on purpose.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: Y'all did it on purpose because you know I was
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: going to do a bad job at it.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: So it's okay, it's.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Not a promise. So the police confiscated the shotgun and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a ballistics expert performed multiple drop tests to try to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: recreate an accidental shot. The expert found that the gun
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: did not missfire during the course of the test. The
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: gun was returned to Rudolph and a forensic pathologist examined
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the body and found the cause of death to be
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: a hemorrhetic shot, an emascrated left side of heart, and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: perforated lung from gunshot injury. That's a big shotgun.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: It's got to kill big animals.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I know saying that big.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, you leave my Saint Louis alone. Okay, Kevin, I'll
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: take that out of you next weekend. Now, the police
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: investigators found the scene to match Rudolph's story. I don't
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: know what scene they were looking at, but okay. They
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: believe that the shotgun had discharged while inside of the case,
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: about three feet away from Bianca, and that Larry had
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: tried to recitate resuscitate his wife. I mean, guys, am,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I taking crazy pills, because if the gun didn't misfire
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: when dropped, I would to go off in a case
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: three feet away with nothing to pull the trigger.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Happy birthday, girl, I I'm going to just say right now, Bs,
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I'm calling bullshit. Doesn't happen now, Like call the mystery
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: machine because this may be the work of a ghost.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: And exactly how does one attempt to resuscitate someone who
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: has been shot through the heart, Because the witnesses didn't
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: mention that, and I one, and I'm sure I'm not
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: the only one. I'm glad that Commander Yayanga has since
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: retired because I don't think he was doing a great job.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: No, he would have literally had blood all over him
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: and he was trying to all over him.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, Scooby and the gang would have figured that
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: out exactly.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: So the Zambian police concluded that this was all a
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: tragic accident. Rudolph quickly called the US embassy to report
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that his wife had died of an accidental gun shot
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: round right, not suicide anymore. He then told them that
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: he wanted to have her cremated in Zambia and plan
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: his trip back home. The cremation request was granted, but
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: it did raise a red flag for the embassy consular cheap.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: He needed to identify the body for himself first and
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: hurry to ideal funeral home in Lusaka with two other
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: embassy officials, and I love that it says ideal funeral
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: home on the side with a hummer herself.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Friend, I do, I'm sorry, I have to go back, Buffy.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: What did you do to your cat to make your
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: cat throw up in your bed to say happy birthday
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: to you? I mean I could see it bringing you
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: a dead mouse or something. So what did you do
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: to that poor kids?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, sirs.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: So. After seeing the wound, he proceeded to photograph the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: body in an attempt to preserve any potential evidence and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: bless this man okay as a former marine with decades
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: of experience on weapons. He recorded that the bullet wound
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: was straight on the heart, that it was not a
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: tight group of pellets, but was about six meters in diameter,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and noted a second injury caused by wadding from a
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: shotgun cartridge. This injury suggested to him that Bianca had
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: been shot from a distance of six and a half
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: to eight feet, which is pretty freaking close range.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: I'm no, six and a half to eight feet and
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: it's not I know close.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It's close because I'm like the gun that's that big.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: But for her to have shot herself by accidentally dropping it.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I saw the small those cabins were,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: so I mean like, yeah.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've shot one of those shotguns before, and I
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: will tell you I walked away with a bruise that
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: covered my shoulder and one of the girls, I mean,
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: they will kick your butt.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Now, guys, are you ready?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: Larry was livid when he learned that the counselor Chief
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: had visited the funeral home and photographed Bianca's body.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: How damn it.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: The councilor Chief still needed to collect Bianca's passport and
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: met with Larry and Mark Swanepoole at the crematorium. The
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: chief offered to help Larry notify the family, and Larry
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: told them that he preferred to tell the family personally.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: He also told him that the children were his from
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: a previous marriage and not biologically related to Bianca.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: What they like that because he's trying to do the
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: crawfish crawl now.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: He also asked a lot of questions about who would
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: have access to any police records about the accident. The
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: chief made him nervous.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, yes, very much so. So obviously
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: all of this led to the consular chief to contact
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: the SBI and tell them that he had a bad
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: feeling about the situation and so did defend. When they
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: looked into Rudolph's many many insurance policies on Bianca, there
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: were nine policies in Beyonca's name, totally just under five
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: million dollars. What nine nine policies? I don't know if
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen one a case that had that many
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: life insurance policies.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I want to know the date they were taken.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Out there on that chart, now.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: That's the claim date and the date the claim paid.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want to know the daity took
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: him out.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: I could see him having that much on him because
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: he owned a chain of practices.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Why her, she was a stay at home mom. Why
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: does she need to be covered for fight million dollars? Oh? No, okay,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: sus okay.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Now, Bianca Rudolph was cremated three days after her death,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: and Larry Rudolph flew back to Pennsylvania his her children.
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Guys didn't know she died until a week after her death.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Not suspicious at all, guys, That to me is another crime. Yeah,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, especially when said that he was a good dat.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: According to one of Bianca's friends. Many of her family
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: and friends did not know about the death until the funeral.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, guys, surprise party suck. I mean, I wouldn't know.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: I've never had one. But surprise funerals are just cruel.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: I mean no, no. Larry and Bianca's children had a
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: lot of questions, but their father didn't want to talk
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: about it. He insisted that it was an accident and
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: he gave them no details. Guys, Remember his son is
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: an attorney. You can't tell me his son did not
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: have a lot.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Of questions, right right? Oh. Kaptin says the earliest policy
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: was from eighty seven, most were from twenty sixteen, and
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the old ones were updated in twenty sixteen. So ooh,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that's not good for you, Larry.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: That's not oh oh my gosh.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: Y yay surprise and Fuffy and I didn't happen for that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: There was just glitter bomb on the photo, but not
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: in real life.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: That's true. So one of Bianca's friends helped get the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: investigation rolling. The red flag for her was the cremation,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: because Bianca was a strict Catholic and has said she
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: did not want to be cremated. Co Hold on. Sorry,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: we're behind here. The friend told the FBI that Larry
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: had been verbally abusive to Bianca, that he was cheating
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: on her, and that the couple fought over money. She said,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Larry is never going to divorce her because he doesn't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: want to lose his money, and she's never going to
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: divorce him because of her Catholicism. Now the federal case
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: begins to take sheep. Oh, it's not great. One offends
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: her home.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: It's not And I just want to say to any
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: other woman who is Catholic and married, you can get
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: a divorce in Catholicism. You go to the priest and
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: you talk to them. I did it, Okay, you can Now.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: It's not the taboo like it was back in the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: eighties or nineties. You do not have to stay married
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: to a man that is verbally abusive to you and
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: cheating on you. Okay, if you are in that situation,
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: call me. I'll help you figure out what to say
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: the priest. Now, within a month, Larry started following claims
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: on all of Bianca's insurance policies.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Now, remember that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Hunting guide Mark Swanapole at the camp Well, he personally
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: spoke to all of the insurance companies and told them
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: that it was an accident, specifically saying that she could
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: reach the trigger despite the gun's thirty one inch barrel
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and her being a five foot four woman. He suggested
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: that she could reach with her long fingernails.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: For fock's sake, how are you so bad at this?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Swanabul and Larry, both of you.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I wonder did he have a double indemnity policy on
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: any of those where if it was an accident, they
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: paid double.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Probably I don't know that to be true, but it
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: wouldn't surpice me. Yeah, now, or maybe those were the
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: double amounts.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: May okay.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Between his statements and the investigation from the Zambient police,
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: the policy's paid out. He also kept the entirety of
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: their fourteen million dollar fortune, even though half of it
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: should have become property of her state, which would have
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: been passed on to their children. Guys, I just need
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: to stop a dentist fourteen million dollars now, I know
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: why after insurance of paying eighty percent, I still have
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: to pay eight hundred and fifty eight dollars one broot canal.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, It's a racket. It's a racket. Well, in
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: January of twenty seventeen, so we're talking a couple months
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: after Beyonca's death, Laurie moved in with Larry, of course
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: she did. Around the same time. Mark Swanepole was paid
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars by Rudolph, and he received an additional
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: twenty three thousand dollars two months later. Sometimes I can't
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: even really comprehend how stupid people are. Okay, so if
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: he paid mo, you paid him. You guys gotta figure
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: that out.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Do you know how much money that is over in
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: Antania a time? That's like a million dollars to them.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Why else would you say just got money?
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: Haveing that suspicious?
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm pretty sure the FOD found is suspicious.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Let's find out.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Eventually.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: The photographs of Beianga's body made it back to a
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: Colorado medical examiner, who concluded that it would be physically
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: impossible to accidentally fire this shotgun in its carrying case
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: and produce the entrance defect noted on the body of
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: missus Rudolph. The tip of the carrying case was most
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: likely at least two feet from miss Rudolph when the
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: weapon was discharged, regardless if it was on a cylinder
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: or full choke settings. Father, it would be extremely difficult,
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: if not impossible, for missus Rudolph to reach the trigger
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: of this weapon, even if it was placed in the
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: case with the muzzle pressed against her chest. We knew it, guys,
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: that action hero Embassy guy told us. But yes, guys,
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: obviously Leeps Bianca did not have bigfoot arms.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: She did not.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: This whole accident story was bonker. I mean, it just
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: it was bumper.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: It's wild. So by twenty twenty one, Lauri and Larry
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: had begun building their own dream mansion in Paradise Valley
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: in Arizona. Laurie didn't want to live in the old
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: mansion since it had been his and beyond home. They
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: also bought a condo in Cavot and traveled there regularly.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: They were just absolutely living it up put in their dream.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: That December, they flew to Cavo to celebrate Christmas. They
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: were met on the tarmac by Mexican police. Also say, does.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: Anyone find it interesting she doesn't mind sleeping with another
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: woman's husban's been for twenty years, but she doesn't want
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: to live in that woman's house.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Apparently, though they never moved into this house, but.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Bookie trone man. Now.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Finally, a little over five years after Bianca Rudolph's death,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: Larry Rudolph was arrested for murdering his wife in defrauding
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: seven insurance companies. Returned Larry and Laurie to the US,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: and Larry was taken to jail in Colorado. Why Colorado,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: you ask? Colorado was the home of one of the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: insurance companies that Rudolph had received money from, and it
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: was the home of the FBI Dinver Division, who took
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: the lead on the federal investigation.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: He has such a punchable face.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: He does I.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: I don't like him.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I don't like him.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I don't like him, So they have the David filed
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: for Rudolph's arrest included a thorough breakdown of the facts
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: my FBI Special Agent Donald Peterson. It included testimony from
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the Zimbian witnesses and experts, financial details on the various
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: insurance policies, and details of the investigations done by the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: insurance company. Because you know.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Now, guess what, guys.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: It also included facts found by the FBI's investigation.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: Why that's down.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: You're the best.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: You're the best of that now, like I said.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: Included facts by the FBI's investigation, including testimony from Mark
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Swandapol's ex wife, who had socialized many times with Bianca
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: and Larry over minty mini hunting trips. She was uncomfortable
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: about the rush nature of the cremation and Larry's lack
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: of concern over Bianca's Catholic tradition. She took it upon
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: herself to dress Bianca's body in black and place across
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: around her neck before her cremation. She had also seen
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Larry bribe a worker to expedite the cremation.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: Oh what a nice lady. I know, but I just
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: got a dick. But whatever, she seems lovely. Yeah, she
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: seems lovely. An employee from the dental office also testified,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: saying that Larry's girlfriend, Laurie, had given him an ultimatum
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: to sell his practice and leave Bianca within the year,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and that she suspected Larry and Laurie had stockpiled the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: cash earned at the dental's office. All together from the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: FBI had probable cause. Oh boy, did they I mean.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: You?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I'm sorry.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Laurie is just as culpable in this, but I'm not
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: going to say that, but that's my thoughts. The FBI
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: had also used various tests to prove that Bianca could
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: not have shot herself. They worked with an anthroo pometer,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: anthrow palm tree that specialist from Ohio represent, I mean
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: that is the scientific study of the measurement and proportions
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: of the human body. Why can't we just say that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: instead of calling it an anthrow whatever. It's usually used
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: more for product development. But the FBI asked the founder,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Bruce bratt Miller, to test their theory. About fifty local
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: women of similar stature to Bianca's volunteered to attempt three
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: tests to recreate Bianca's death.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, of all the tests.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: And of all the volunteers, one woman was able to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: just barely pass one of the reach test with significant effort.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: As you can see the lady in the picture there, yeah,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: trying to like, like, look how massive that freaking gun is.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: There's no way.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: It is in guys, I don't know if you've ever
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: held a gun in one of these type.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: Of carriers, it's you.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know how they could say you can't put
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: your finger through and pull the trigger even I.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Mean, okay, it don't make no sense. Well, around this time,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the government began to process the process of seizing Larry's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: assets wah wah, including multiple properties, accounts, a twenty seventeen
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Bentley and the twenty eighteen asketon Martin so Si. Meanwhile,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: remember the kids didn't even get their inheritance. I wonder
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: if anybody stuffed his Bentley and put it on their
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: all about their fireplace, I would have.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Did they call Mark?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: Oh boy?
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: Rudolph was remanded without bond on January fourth, twenty twenty two.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: He was indicted the following day. His attorneys released a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: statement saying doctor Randolph is innocent. The Zambian authorities who
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: were there and investigated said so. The insurance companies who
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: paid the claim after they investigated said so. Strangely, five
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: years later, the FEDS brought charges without any real evidence,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: no eye witnesses, no forensics, no anything except for some
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: speculation sprinkled into the chasm of conjecture. That is an
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: incredibly fancy rebuttal But guys, I expect nothing less from
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: a rich man's defense.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Attorney, right this guy, and they're doing the job. But like, really, come.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: So they asked the federal judge to release Larry from
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: jail pending trial with supporting affidavids from his children that
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: express their full support. Which crazy quote. We know him
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: better than anyone else and we know that he is innocent,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: they wrote. Which again, they're his kids. I understand what
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: are they going to do?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, you must remember your brain protects you from
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: things that.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: It thinks you can't handle.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Kay wants to believe that it's a wild Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: Now. District Court Judge William J.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Martinez refused to release Rudolph despite Larry offering to pay
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: for private security guards to monitor him and his home,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: saying the court is also deeply troubled by any suggestion
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: that the defendant, by virtue of his wealth, should be
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: able to buy his way out of detention by constructing
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: a private jail from the comfort of his girlfriend or
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: relative's home.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Judge Martinez wrote.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, Mike, drop Judge Martinez for the win.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Judge.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, Laurie Milron, look at her. She's looking
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: roughs on't the last pecture I saw her? And testified
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: in front of the grand jury investigating Beyonca's death On
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: January fifth, twenty twenty two, she was asked about her
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: relationship with Rudolph and about cash payments he'd made to
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: her before Beianca's death. She testified that Rudolph was only
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: being generous. When asked about Larry's behavior during the investigation,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: she replied that he was irritated because he was probably innocent,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: and Larry's children reported that they received abusive text messages
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: from Laurie after Larry's arrest. Oh wicked stepmother?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Did she say probably in this probably yeah, i'd be
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Could you not have chose your words a little better?
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Lorii, Lord, Laurie lor Now Laurie was allowed to return
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: to Arizona, but guys, on February fifteenth, she was arrested.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: She was charged with obstruction, perjury, and being an accessory
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: after the fact. She turned down a plea deal, refusing
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: to help the prosecution's case, maintaining that Bianca's death was accident.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: I did not have the mistress getting arrested all being
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: a card.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I wanted her arrested just because just.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Because yeah, huzzah okay. So then Larry Rudolph and Laurie
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Milron had a joint trial in a Denver federal courtroom,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: and the trial took thirteen days and they saw fifty witnesses,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: call them a lot of witnesses for that short amount
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: But now the prosecution presented their murder case, all of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: the witnesses, photos and ballistic tests. Larry's children are in
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: court every day, and nothing could have prepared us for
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: those visuals for that testimony. Julian Letter later said it
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: was horrific. Prosecutors also alleged that Larry had built his
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: fortune by committing fraud. They brought up the millions of
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: dollars in disability insurance he had received after shooting off
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: his own thumb.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, so it wasn't It wasn't the crocodile. Oh, I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: can't believe that.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, is that the zebra belt on the floor.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: That's a zebra blanket covering her dead bodies. That's what
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: I was like. Remember she killed a zebra that day,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and I just thought that was that was interesting to irony.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: So the prosecution even alleged that he had cheated his
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: own dental patience for years by personally by purposely doing
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: bad dental work to ensure that they would later need
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: root canals and by drilling holes and their teeth while
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: they were asleep.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, guys, what the actual fuck Larry?
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Ask somebody who's having to get a root canal redone.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Ten years later, I will say it was very encouraging
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: to hear the end of dauntes say, oh, those were
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: done really well, but it happens. But the fact that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: you are purposely causing people pain and suffering to make
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: more money wild.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: He is the worst. Everybody stays together class. Larry is
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: the worst. So the prosecution also brought in is surprising
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: final witness, the bartender at Larry and Laurie's favorite watering
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: hole Stake forty four in Phoenix, Arizona. Bartender Brian Lovelace
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: testified that he'd overheard Larry tell Laurie I killed my
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: fooking wife for you while they dined at the bar. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: so Lovelace had told his coworkers this after hearing it,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: and one of them had contacted the FBI after reading
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: about Larry's arrest. Tip your servers, people, and as a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: former server, if your table says something weird, ex weird,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: there's something going on. They have told everybody that they
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: work with about it.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: But you're to say you might not want to confess
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: to killing someone or committing a crime where your server
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: can hear.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: You, because they are going right back to that kitchen
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: and being like what you guys, guess what I just heard.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, kudos to them for not just letting it
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: go and actually doing something about it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, agreed, that is very true, perhaps on because
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: Know if I would want to get involved.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, kudos in the defense presented beyonc as well
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Will that did say she wanted to be cremated, and
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: the manual that came with the shotgun that said there
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: was a risk of misfire if dropped. Their star witness
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: was Larry himself, who wanted to testify.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: Of course he did. Of course he did. Of course
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: he did. Let's see what this face wants to.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: I think he should have met up a Lori Vallo.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I think they would have been great in Arizona. I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: know that. So what I'm saying they I just put
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: it together.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now the stand he said, I did not kill
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: my wife.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: I could not murder my wife. I would not murder
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: my wife.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: He cried as he apologized to children for the pain
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: the trial was causing them.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: Shut the fuck up, Larry. Sorry. The jury foreman later
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: said in an interview she noticed that when Larry cried,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: there weren't any real tears.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Not even crocodile tears. No. Sorry, I didn't even write that.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: One just came out annoying. Oh did he get his
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: test the mommy tips from Alec Murdoch, because I think, so,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: what speaking that's true?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: I just read and I don't remember who it is,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: but that is probably going to share be in the
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: same prison as day Bell. It'll come from Coburg co worker,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: thank you, Yeah.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're both Max security, though Devel will be
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: on the death row levels, but co worker will be
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: in max security until he levels down, which takes a while.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: It takes quite a few years to lower your security level.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: So they actually won't see each other because Dave Bell
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: is on death row now. Anyway. Unfortunately for Larry getting
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: on the stand neck getting on the stand meant giving
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: the prosecution the chance to cross examine him. Yeah, Arry,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: so he don't take the stand brow. They asked him
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: about the fact that he testified to being in the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: shower when beyond the die and showed a crime scene
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: photo of him neatly dressed with a belt and his
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: shirt tucked in exhibit whatever. Right there, that is Larry
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: dressed with a belt on next to his west and
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: body covered in a zebra plankan he allus So they
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: asked him about the gun, and he said he had
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: paid to have it taken away by trash callers two
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: years after the accident. He told them, quote, I'm not
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: a gun guy, which is a pretty bold claim for
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: an avid trophy hunter. You're not a gun.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, wait a minute, So you like to hunt and
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: kill big game animals, but you're not a gun guy.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, he's not a gun guy, you guys. Okay,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: that makes sense.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Now.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: They also brought up that pesky legal action with Safari
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: Club International is part of that lawsuit. He'd given a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: deposition in which he said he was not an adulterer.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: The prosecution made him admit on the stand to previously
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: lying under oath.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: Oh one, very well, you guys. Fairy tales do come true.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Because Larry Rudolph and Laurie Milron were both found guilty
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: of the charges against them. Oh no, many jurors who
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: were undecided before Larry's testimony, thought he was guilty after
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: he testified. That's why I don't take the sand. Larry's
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: only interaction with Laurie in the courtroom was waving goodbye
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: to her. Awesome quick shout out to I might say
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: your name wrong, miho oconn ocon for their courtroom sketches.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: I love their style. I love courtroom sketches.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: I did you These are great?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: They're so great they did. I love the style, the watercolor.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I love whoever you are. Mayho o'con.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Great job, great, We've you've got fans. Yes now.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Larry was sentenced to life in prison and Laurie was
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: sentenced to seventeen years in prison, which was an upward
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: departure for her charges. The judge cided that she showed
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: no remorse and had gone out of her way to
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: show cruelty to Bianca Rudolph's children, because if you want
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: to go look up you can see some of the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: text and things she sent to his children.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: She was horrible.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: I did not look up the text. Oh I'm going
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: to how I did it, but it is horrible. Wow. Well.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: At Laurie's sentencing, Anna Beyonca Rudolph spoke saying, quote, Laurie,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: you have taken my parents, but despite everything you have done,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: you will never take my solf. This might be difficult
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: to understand because you don't have one burn baby, Yes,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: get her Bianca. And Bianca seemed genuinely heartbroken, to the
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: point of putting all of the blame on Laurie directly
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: after the trial, and that that is despite a particularly
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: gross a jail call between her and her father in
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: which he tells his daughter that he didn't love Laurie,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: saying quote, get your bark, guys ready, everybody, Quote Daddy
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: just needed somebody to have sex with. I mean, why
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: would you say that, Larry to your daughter?
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: I yeah.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Now, Julian felt differently. He letters later said the trial
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: was eye opening and that seeing the prosecution's evidence. Remember guy,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: he's an attorney. Okay, he's an at journey he thought.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: He said, the evidence brought a lot of clarity and
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: answered a lot of questions for us.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: For that, he says he is eternally.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: Grateful to the federal prosecutors and various investigators who bought
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: brought the truth about his mother's death to light.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well that's they like doing Westerns oil paintings.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Well that is the end of that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: tragic story. We'll go on to our closing thoughts. And really,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: all I have to say is that Larry is quite
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: literally is the worst. That is all. That's all I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: have to say it. I have nothing more.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: I second that, and he is exactly where he needs
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that's true.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: I really really hope he drops the bar soap a
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: whole lot.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: I hate those guys so much.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: That's all I got for him, because he just I'm sorry.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: I got nothing. He's just awful. I've got nothing now.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: And listen, I do not condone beyond because hobbies. If
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: you will, No, I don't like but she don't even
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: like her as a person. But that doesn't mean that
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: she doesn't have to be murdered.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: I kind of have to wonder thinking about Catholicism and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: thinking about the fact my mom hunted because my dad did,
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: and she wanted to spend time with my dad and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: my brother, and you erased to do the hobbies that
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: your husbands do. So I can't help, but wonder did
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: she love it or did she love that he loved it.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'll be it sounded like she loved it.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: She would she had a kill list, remember that, Well
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: they went there, she had a kill list. So listen,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't like her.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to give her a little bit.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean she deserves to be murdered, deserve and
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: she didn't deserve like that ship bag sheill didn't deserve her.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: So she just want to make that clear.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to know, and I will have
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: to google it.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: Did they at least donate the meat from their kills?
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: I need? I mean, it's not gonna make me like
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: them anymore, but it'll make me feel a little better.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: And then I'm going to just have to say I'm
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: gonna have to go love on my baby goats after this. Yeah,
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: but they're not gonna watch my brother so anyway, that's yeah,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 3: I got nothing.
• 1:22:48
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• 1:22:51
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• 1:22:55
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  Speaker 1: little bit on a hiatus for the month of July.
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  Speaker 1: I have my son's birthday next week. All my besties
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  Speaker 1: are coming in for our High Life show, and apparently
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  Speaker 1: I'm having a bathroom remodeled. It was supposed to happen
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  Speaker 1: last week. Now I got pushed to and I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I hate it.
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  Speaker 2: I hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I hate it. So I won't be able to stream
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  Speaker 1: every day like I have been doing them, but I
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  Speaker 1: will be doing pop ups when I can, so if
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  Speaker 1: you haven't yet subscribed to our channel, please hit in
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  Speaker 1: artification mod so you don't miss when we go live
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  Speaker 1: and I do crops. Guess that wraps that up well.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm also going to say for the month of July,
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  Speaker 3: I will be having surgery on July thirtieth, and I
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  Speaker 3: will be on heavy meds for two weeks. I might
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  Speaker 3: just pop and do a live just so everybody can
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  Speaker 3: have to enjoy me sleeping, sitting up for two weeks
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  Speaker 3: and being on heavy pain medication like doubleh has two.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to share the love.
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  Speaker 1: Yay, Yeah, yeah, yay, because you.
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  Speaker 3: Want to care and read for me to watch. But
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  Speaker 3: now I've got this big brother thing to watch. I
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  Speaker 3: mean not have time.
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  Speaker 1: Haar knows what's going to go on by the end
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  Speaker 1: of the month. We keep trying to plan things and
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  Speaker 1: then it just falls through. You never know, expect the unexpected.
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  Speaker 1: As Julie Channing Mupez would say.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, I'm aware that the Black Eyed Peas beat
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  Speaker 3: Texas last year.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna get beat up in Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Just kidd hi, though I honestly thought it was Black
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  Speaker 3: Eyed Peas, not black Guys. I know, I know you, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I want to thank you all for joining us and
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  Speaker 3: as always, guys, please stay safe, take care of yourself
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  Speaker 3: and guys, enjoy your wine time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you everyone for listening and supporting us. It
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  Speaker 1: means everything. Until next time, take care of your mind,
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  Speaker 1: take care of each other, and never stop asking the
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  Speaker 1: hard questions. Now go forth and be amazing, my guys,