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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Familylaw Talk. Familylaw Talk presented by Kirk Stangy
- 0:06of Stangy Law Firm PC. Stangy Law Firm is a
- 0:10multi state family law firm. Now here's your host, Kirk Stangy.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome to Family Law Talk. We have an interesting topic today.
- 0:21The topic is how does co parent counseling work? And
- 0:24this episode today is based on an article on our
- 0:27blog Familylawheadquarters dot com dated October twelfth, twenty twenty five,
- 0:33and the title of the article is the scoop on
- 0:36co Parentcounseling. So as a follow up to the episode
- 0:39today and going over to familaw Headquarters dot com and
- 0:42read this article from more information. But let's go ahead
- 0:45and jump on in. The reality is that co parent
- 0:48counseling is a popular trend in divorcing FAMI law matters.
- 0:52In some cases, the parties might agree to go to
- 0:55co parenting counseling together on their own accord in order
- 0:59to try to communicate better with one another, and a
- 1:02lot of cases this isn't the situation, but what ends
- 1:05up happening is the court with the guardian at l
- 1:08item recommend co parent counseling. In some cases, They might
- 1:11even do an order for co parent counseling which orders
- 1:14the parties to engage in it in meaningful attempts to
- 1:18try to communicate better. All right. The idea behind co
- 1:22parent counseling is that it can enhance the communication skills
- 1:26of parties that are divorcing or separating, and then the
- 1:29hope is that by communicating more effectively, then the parties
- 1:33will be able to work together in a more amicable
- 1:36manner for the best interests of their kids. Right, and so,
- 1:39lots of parties when going through these cases can be
- 1:42aver serial, They can be upset with one another, there
- 1:45can be hard feelings. But the idea is that if
- 1:47parties are able to work together in a cordial manner,
- 1:50then this will be good for the parties, this will
- 1:52be good for the kids, and hopefully this will result
- 1:56in less repeat litigation in really an amicable resolution to
- 2:01disputes that might take place. All right, So, in hearing this,
- 2:04many wonder, well, what does this look like and how
- 2:07does this work? Okay? Obviously, co parent counseling can be
- 2:11different based on the co parent counselor and based on
- 2:15the facts, but in a general sense, what happens is
- 2:18the co parent counselor will meet each party alone for
- 2:21a certain number of sessions, get to know each of
- 2:24the parties individually, try to find out who they are,
- 2:28what they're about, and what their communications styles are, and
- 2:32then you know what are the differences between the parties. Okay.
- 2:35So typically the co parent counselor will meet each of
- 2:38the parties separately for a while, and then ultimately we'll
- 2:42bring the parties together into joint sessions. I mean this
- 2:45is normally the case, and the joint sessions could be
- 2:49in person. In the day and age of virtual meetings,
- 2:54it could be via zoom something like that, where the
- 2:57parties are not in the same room. But the idea
- 3:00is that therapist then works with the parties on how
- 3:03to communicate better. Okay, And so the sessions can be
- 3:06quite a bit different based on the parties and the
- 3:09circumstances in the communication that takes place between the parties.
- 3:14Sometimes communication might be more free flowing with a therapist
- 3:18sort of sitting back and letting the communication happen and
- 3:22they offer suggestions. In other cases where maybe it's adverseerial
- 3:27or maybe there's a lot of hard feelings the therapists
- 3:30might have to regulate the conversation much more in a
- 3:32structured manner, all right. Therapists also might ask the parties
- 3:38to do some work between the sessions. Okay, And this
- 3:41could really entail a lot of stuff from reading books,
- 3:46reading literature, to maybe writing things down for the next
- 3:50meetings or homework of things to think about coming into
- 3:54the next sessions. Okay, And this can again look very
- 3:56different based on the parties, how they communicate, what the
- 4:00differences are, and what the backgrounds are. All right. And
- 4:03again the hope is that by doing this, parties are
- 4:06able to co parent better, They're able to get along
- 4:10in a way that it is at least cordial and
- 4:13that is at least amicable, and that this can result
- 4:15in the parties settling their issues outside of the court system.
- 4:21All right, So this is the hope, This is the aspiration.
- 4:25You know. One of the other questions parties have is well,
- 4:27how long does a co parent counseling continue. This is
- 4:31going to vary based on the facts too, but sometimes
- 4:33co parent counseling can be for many many months, maybe
- 4:36even longer. Sometimes co parenting counseling could be for a
- 4:40shorter duration of time where the parties are able to
- 4:43get on the same page a lot quicker okay. For
- 4:46some parties, you know, they might be in some form
- 4:48of co parenting counseling into the kids are emancipated theoretically,
- 4:52all right, So this can vary a whole lot, okay.
- 4:56Another question parties have is does co parenting counseling always work?
- 5:00And the answer to that question is no, it doesn't
- 5:03always work, and some parties tempers can flare, people can
- 5:08get angry with each other, right, And in these kinds
- 5:11of cases, co parenting counseling can be quite difficult. So
- 5:15there can be circumstances where the parties try co parenting
- 5:18counseling and want or both parties back out of it
- 5:21and don't want to do it anymore. There could be
- 5:23a situation where the co parent counselor recommends that the
- 5:26parties not do it any longer if it's not going well.
- 5:31Other cases where co parenting counseling can be quite difficult,
- 5:35and I think a lot of attorneys would say it's
- 5:37not advisable in cases where there's been some significant domestic violence.
- 5:41Right where there's been domestic violence of a significant nature,
- 5:47it can be very difficult for this to work, and
- 5:50it could be harmful on the party who's been abused
- 5:54to want to participate in the in the co parenting
- 5:56counseling as well. Okay, so no, co parenting counseling doesn't
- 6:01always work, and so then a lot of parties ask, well,
- 6:03is they're worth trying? And the question to that or
- 6:07the answer to that question is a little bit complicated. Obviously,
- 6:11there's never any guarantees in terms of co parenting counseling,
- 6:14never any guarantees. Sometimes co parenting counseling can can truly work,
- 6:19but it ultimately entails both parties wanting it to work,
- 6:24both parties being willing to bury the haget with one
- 6:27another and co parent and compromise. Okay, so that is
- 6:31very very important. But for a lot of parties, yes,
- 6:36it's worth the attempt at least, and parties ought to
- 6:39try it and try it in a meaningful manner. But
- 6:42in some circumstances where one party doesn't want to bury
- 6:45the hatchet, or one party wants to threaten litigation repeatedly
- 6:49if they don't get their way, or where one party
- 6:53is committed, you know, significant accid domestic violence upon somebody.
- 6:57You know, then maybe it's not worth the effort in
- 6:59these circumstances. And I think with the domestic violence, I
- 7:01think a lot of attorneys would say, yeah, probably a
- 7:03bad idea to do this, particularly in person, you know,
- 7:06where there could be concerns with people coming in and
- 7:08out of the sessions together. You know, that would have
- 7:12to be via zoom or something like that if it
- 7:14were even to happen. Okay. Other circumstances where co parenting
- 7:18counseling could be difficult, where one or both of the
- 7:21parties have significant mental illness or personality disorders, or where
- 7:25somebody is very high conflict and not acting rationally, this
- 7:28can be very difficult and there can not be a
- 7:31great likelihood of this succeeding. Okay, So to really kind
- 7:35of sum this up, look, a lot of courts guardia
- 7:39items are fond of co parenting counseling. They're fond of
- 7:42parties at least trying it. So in a lot of
- 7:44cases the parties should probably at least try it, should
- 7:47attempt it, all right. Some parties have success with co
- 7:50parenting counseling, so it can work at times, all right,
- 7:54In cases where both parties want it to work and
- 7:57they want things to get better, there can definitely be
- 8:00a positive impact. And there can be a situation where
- 8:03parties are at least able to be cordial with one another,
- 8:06civil with one another, and that can be extremely helpful.
- 8:09All right, and other circumstances, you know, it might not
- 8:13work and it might not be worth the effort, where
- 8:15there again been domestic violence, a lot of mental illness,
- 8:20or where one party is not really willing to move
- 8:22on and as always threatening litigation if they don't get
- 8:24their way, And these kinds of circumstances very challenging to
- 8:28see it work. But look, I wanted to at least
- 8:30cover this topic and bring it up. This is very common,
- 8:34the idea of co parenting counseling. It's really gaining prominence
- 8:37more and more people trying it, so I thought it
- 8:39was an important topic to cover here today. So again,
- 8:41as a follow up to the episode, going over to
- 8:43FAMI lawheadquarters dot com, read the article titled the Scoop
- 8:47on co parent Counseling. This will give you more information
- 8:50on this topic. But thanks for tuning in today, Stay
- 8:53tuned for our next episode of Family Law Talk coming up.
- 8:55Thank you very much.
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