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One Piece, 800-802 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes eight hundred through eight oh two.
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  Speaker 1: The first and the second join the vin Smoke Family,
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  Speaker 1: The Benefactor's Life, Sonjy and Owners Zeph and an angry
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  Speaker 1: Soanji the Secret of Germa sixty six. In these episodes,
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  Speaker 1: Sonji's family really sucks. Ass just keeps showing new levels
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  Speaker 1: of sucking, from bullying to creating soldiers out of science
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  Speaker 1: to bullying. It's just I really want him to take
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  Speaker 1: these guys down. Welcome to spoil Me. Welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: show everyone. I am Natasha. Thank you. I believe it's
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  Speaker 1: Bernadette for commissioning this episode. Apologies if I got that wrong,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go double check now. But yeah, this section, guys,
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm just going to acknowledge that, like
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  Speaker 1: we get a replay of Sanji's whole storyline, which is
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of like unnecessary. I I have Oh sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Florian says eight hundred. You only have like three hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty episodes left till you're caught up. Do you
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  Speaker 1: make three hundred and fifty eight podcast episodes, Florian? Or
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty TV show episode. I actually haven't
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  Speaker 1: been keeping track of like how many there are. Seraphim says,
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  Speaker 1: I believe you mean science. You need the emphasis to
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  Speaker 1: make clear it's mad science fair. I'm gonna do science
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  Speaker 1: in quotes TV show episodes. Oh shit, Okay, so wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very close to being caught up. Very interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see what it's like to be caught up because I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be able to go into like fandom spaces a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, not a lot, because like, I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: the show is going to immediately outpace me having caught up,
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  Speaker 1: But I wonder if that will draw like new listeners
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. If I'm now caught up and able to
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  Speaker 1: fully be spoiled, I imagine I'll still have to like stay
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  Speaker 1: out of the spoiler free discord and everything like that.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so okay, let's begin with I'm gonna just
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  Speaker 1: talk about Loofy first because frankly, what's going on with
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  Speaker 1: him is kind of the least interesting. And this isn't
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  Speaker 1: really shade because this is a good section. It's just
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  Speaker 1: more everybody else has got like new information being revealed
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  Speaker 1: or being able to flex in a different way, and
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  Speaker 1: he's the only one that's kind of just doing what
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  Speaker 1: he always does, which is fight, fight, fight, And there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that whatsoever. But you guys know that
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  Speaker 1: for me, mostly the action sequences in this show are
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  Speaker 1: what I find the least interesting. I am much more
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  Speaker 1: into the story and character development, or if Lufy does,
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  Speaker 1: like learn a new technique or something, that will be
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  Speaker 1: an exception. But usually it's just a lot of smashing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not that different from the other smashing that
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  Speaker 1: we have seen many many times. The only like, the
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  Speaker 1: main thing that I will say in favor of the
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  Speaker 1: difference here is because the people that he are fighting
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  Speaker 1: are these cookie people. I think that it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: fun to see him smash as much as he does,
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  Speaker 1: and then it sort of goes nowhere. You know, he's
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  Speaker 1: doing what he normally does, but because he isn't fighting
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  Speaker 1: your average enemy, it doesn't work out as it would
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  Speaker 1: with people they are. I won't say it's resilient, the
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  Speaker 1: word I want when they do like break apart, but
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  Speaker 1: they can basically get put back together again pretty quickly,
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  Speaker 1: pretty easily, and so breaking them isn't actually accomplishing anything.
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  Speaker 1: It's just slowing them down and it's causing Loofy to
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  Speaker 1: use up a ton of energy for nothing, so he
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  Speaker 1: winds up in this place where he has to literally
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  Speaker 1: like go sleep because he has spent all his mana.
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  Speaker 1: Is the way that I think of it. He has
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  Speaker 1: used up all his manna and he needs time to recharge.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't have any potions or food to eat. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if he couldn't eat some of
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  Speaker 1: his surroundings maybe and make up for some of this
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  Speaker 1: lost energy. I don't know how that works, but it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like him yelling at this guy, punching things,
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  Speaker 1: posturing this guy posturing right back, and it feels it
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  Speaker 1: feels like there's going to have to be a difference
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  Speaker 1: in the way he decides to approach things, because this
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  Speaker 1: is clearly not the method for this particular enemy. But
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  Speaker 1: Lufi isn't really known for being adaptable, so I genuinely
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  Speaker 1: am not sure what it is he's going to do.
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  Speaker 1: Even if he gets all his energy back, even if
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  Speaker 1: he wakes upt fully charged, Nami has managed to buy
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  Speaker 1: him all this time. If he goes through it again
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  Speaker 1: the same way he has been, it's not really going
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  Speaker 1: to be better. You know, I don't know. There's no
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  Speaker 1: point in just jumping back into the fight with the
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  Speaker 1: same methodology. So how will he change it up? Or
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  Speaker 1: how can he change it up? Now here's my approach,
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  Speaker 1: And you guys, I may be way off base on this.
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  Speaker 1: This might not work, Okay, I acknowledge this, but I
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  Speaker 1: will say that I want it to be explored just
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  Speaker 1: to verify that it won't work. I want Lufy to
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  Speaker 1: eat the enemy. I want him to eat all the cookies.
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  Speaker 1: I want Lufy to give in to his gluttonous nature
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  Speaker 1: while facing off against an enemy literally made a food.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to see if that, if there is
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  Speaker 1: like an unlimited supply of cookie, will this guy get
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  Speaker 1: worn out himself by having to produce more and more cookies?
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  Speaker 1: Is that possible? Does that wear him out? Because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think no matter how many cookies this man produces,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a while before Loofy starts
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  Speaker 1: to get sick of eating too many cookies. We saw
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  Speaker 1: him eat a cafe like granted, not the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: and he had help. But like you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: think that it's likely that could be effective. It would
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  Speaker 1: also keep up his own energy and potentially could be
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  Speaker 1: like an effective method against other enemies that have like
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  Speaker 1: food based weapons. And I I just I know that
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  Speaker 1: there's the possibility that this guy there's no limit to
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  Speaker 1: how many cookies he can make. It's possible that he,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if Lufy were to try this, this guy
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  Speaker 1: would just keep sending cookies at him until eventually Loofy
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  Speaker 1: was overwhelmed. Anyway, And yes, possible, But I keep imagining
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  Speaker 1: that episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets sent to
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  Speaker 1: Hell after making a deal with the devil for a doughnut,
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  Speaker 1: and then he winds up in how because he's paying
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  Speaker 1: the price for the donut and the punishment that he's
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  Speaker 1: being given is being force fed donuts, And eventually the
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  Speaker 1: demon in charge of force feeding him is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: anybody are we is this guy isn't getting tired of
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  Speaker 1: eating these? Should I keep doing this? Or I just
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  Speaker 1: see Loofy being very similar of like there's not a limit,
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  Speaker 1: He'll just keep going. Especially when he was eating a cafe,
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  Speaker 1: he was just eating. But this would be eating and
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  Speaker 1: fighting and thus burning off some of that energy. So
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  Speaker 1: it might be that he winds up not actually getting
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  Speaker 1: full because he's simultaneously burning the calories. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if this is how things work in this world,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that could be pretty fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: At least even if it doesn't wind up work, I
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  Speaker 1: think it could be cool. So that's that's my little
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  Speaker 1: suggestion Slash Druthers for Louvi's pov. So, and now let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about what's going on with Nami, Because Nami winds
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  Speaker 1: up like kind of swooping in right around the point
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  Speaker 1: where Lufy begins to lose his energy, and she has
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  Speaker 1: to draw this guy off and give Loofy time to
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  Speaker 1: hide and rest, and she has to convince all of
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  Speaker 1: the homies. I still can't get over that that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're called guys, genuinely, Like, I don't know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: so funny. But she has to convince them repeatedly to
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  Speaker 1: do what she says by brandishing the viver card of
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  Speaker 1: Big Moms over and over and over again. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I just don't really like this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very like tenuous her having this kind
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  Speaker 1: of power over them. It just doesn't really make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense to me that, like if they were
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  Speaker 1: worried that she could somehow hurt Big Mom because she
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  Speaker 1: has that viver card. Maybe, but I haven't seen evidence
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  Speaker 1: that that's really what this is. They're sort of behaving
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  Speaker 1: as if anything she says is coming through Big Mom
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  Speaker 1: and that and the way she's framing it is like,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't do what I say, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get in trouble from her. But she's telling you to
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  Speaker 1: do the opposite of what Big Mom gave you orders
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  Speaker 1: to do, so logically this doesn't really make any sense.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that if we had seen that the
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  Speaker 1: viver cards represented essentially I'm speaking with this person's voice
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  Speaker 1: before now, maybe I wouldn't be so hung up on it.
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  Speaker 1: But it just feels like we're suddenly reckconning that this
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  Speaker 1: is a thing in order to give Nami some power
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  Speaker 1: in this situation, and it just doesn't really feel legitimate.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like we didn't know what else to do
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  Speaker 1: with her, and so we're gonna have this vivercard thing
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  Speaker 1: actually give her power over these beings. It's just not
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  Speaker 1: really like, it doesn't make sense to me. It's not
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  Speaker 1: hitting for me. I don't like it, so just you know,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted I should mention that like last episode, I
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  Speaker 1: think right before I went on my birthday week break,
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  Speaker 1: I was saying that there was nobody in the chat,
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  Speaker 1: and it turned out later it does there was somebody
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  Speaker 1: in the chat, and our chat was just malfunctioning, so
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't see it. Once I ended the thing, I
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  Speaker 1: could see the chat, of course, So there were people
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  Speaker 1: trying to explain the whole thing with that. Like Big
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  Speaker 1: Mom imbued her a piece of her soul into the
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  Speaker 1: viaver card, I feel like it wasn't established that this
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  Speaker 1: was something that viver cards could do. It doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: sense to me that the homies are worried about getting
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  Speaker 1: in trouble with Big Mom for not doing what Nami
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  Speaker 1: says when she's telling them to do the opposite of
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  Speaker 1: what Big Mom's orders were. The whole thing feels like
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  Speaker 1: we're retconning how viver cards work because we didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a plot line for Nami, and we need something for
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  Speaker 1: her to do, and we need to give her some
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  Speaker 1: kind of power, and this was what we came up with.
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  Speaker 1: The viver card thing obviously was supposed to have been
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  Speaker 1: planted back when we met Lola, so I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it actually is a retcon, but it hasn't really been
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  Speaker 1: established rat like adequately in my mind that this is
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  Speaker 1: ever how they work. So this being pulled out now
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  Speaker 1: as some sort of leverage against these creatures, it fel
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  Speaker 1: very sudden and silly. It just doesn't really like I
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  Speaker 1: don't even understand why Nami would know that this is
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  Speaker 1: how it works, you know what I mean, She's she
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  Speaker 1: pulls it out in this way that feels like there's
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  Speaker 1: immediate understanding for her that, oh, everybody here is behaving
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  Speaker 1: in such a way because I have this and is
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  Speaker 1: really confident in the way that she's wielding it. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't get why she is like even putting it together.
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  Speaker 1: That's what's going on here because I don't know it
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  Speaker 1: just it doesn't work for me. And the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they are, like like I said, worried about getting in
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  Speaker 1: trouble when they are doing the opposite of what they
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  Speaker 1: were told to do by Big Mom herself. I don't
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  Speaker 1: get that either. You know. The whole thing is and
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  Speaker 1: like Serafrum says so on the favor card thing, this
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  Speaker 1: is likely not a usual thing, but something unique to
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  Speaker 1: Big Mom due to the soul so fruit right, it
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  Speaker 1: slipped out on accident at first, then she saw the
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  Speaker 1: homies reaction and was quick to exploit it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: guess it's just I don't know, guys, it's not hitting
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  Speaker 1: for me, and I think that also. Another part of
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  Speaker 1: it is it's very repetitive, you know. It's her telling
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  Speaker 1: them to do things, them insisting they can't do it,
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  Speaker 1: and then her wielding the card and being like did
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  Speaker 1: you forget about this? Even though she just wielded it
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  Speaker 1: and said did you forget about this? Literally ten seconds ago,
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  Speaker 1: And she's just doing that over and over and over.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not really interesting, you know. So overall for me,
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  Speaker 1: everything that's going on with Nami and Lufy is like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: by far the most boring part of these three episodes.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, punch punch, punch, punch punch. I'm tired.
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  Speaker 1: Loofy and Namy do the thing. We won't do the thing?
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  Speaker 1: Do you forget? I have the thing to make it?
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  Speaker 1: Do the thing we forgot? Yeah, we will do the
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  Speaker 1: thing ad nauseum, you know. So anyway, that's that's that.
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  Speaker 1: With that, it's fine, let's talk about Sony and his family.
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  Speaker 1: So we get a refresh and I say it refresh,
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  Speaker 1: It's not really, it's like a full on. We see
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  Speaker 1: the whole scene again of Soanjy on the island with Zev.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Is it Szev, guys, I've already forgotten his name, but Zef,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: thank you, Florien. We see that whole scene, which, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I am always puzzled with this show on how they
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  Speaker 1: determine what we need to be completely refreshed on and
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  Speaker 1: what we don't. There will be characters that we saw
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  Speaker 1: one time one hundred and fifty episodes ago in a
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  Speaker 1: minor scene and they kind of won't remind us where
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  Speaker 1: they're from and just expect us to remember. And then
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  Speaker 1: there's things like this where we have to see the
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  Speaker 1: whole scene again, as if we would ever forget how
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  Speaker 1: this went down because it's incredibly memorable and important to
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  Speaker 1: this character. Of course we didn't forget, you know. It's
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  Speaker 1: just weird. There are so many times where you guys
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  Speaker 1: have to be like, oh, yeah, we met this person
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  Speaker 1: here here, and I'm like, oh, and I have no
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  Speaker 1: recollection and the show doesn't remind me when it's a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: ripe moment for them to exploit the need for patting.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And then there are things like this where I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: nobody doesn't remember how important zeph is Tsanji. Nobody. There
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  Speaker 1: isn't a soul who doesn't remember that. Come on, it's
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  Speaker 1: also very funny now that you guys have like told
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  Speaker 1: me about what was originally meant to have happened, the
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  Speaker 1: fact that like, he ate his leg in the manga,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: but they softened it for the TV show and had
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it be that it came off due to an injury.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: It's so weak sauce that they decided to have it
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  Speaker 1: be an injury from trying to rescue Sanji. It's really pitiful,
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  Speaker 1: Like there is no other explanation for how he's still
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  Speaker 1: alive with having no food for that whole twenty days.
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  Speaker 1: There's no other explanation except that he ate his own leg.
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  Speaker 1: And the reveal after Sanji just said, you have to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have been eaten eating something and then you see that
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  Speaker 1: his leg is gone. Obviously, it's just a weird thing
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to have him say you had to have been eating something,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: his leg is gone, and then we flashed back to
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  Speaker 1: the thing getting yanked off in this in like underwater.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And the fact that they
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: thought people couldn't handle. It is just laughable. This show
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is full of all kinds of crazy violin. Why don't
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: we draw the line here? It doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 1: to me, frankly, Like this is the thing that we
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: think is so taboo that we can't you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just weird. So anyway, this whole thing
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  Speaker 1: is like brought up because they are planning to use
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  Speaker 1: zeph as leverage to make Soanji do what he's told.
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  Speaker 1: And I really just don't see a better method for
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  Speaker 1: controlling Sanji. This is pretty much it. It's that Eggman
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  Speaker 1: who is the one who brings this information to Sonji's father,
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  Speaker 1: and he tells his dad Judge like, this is his weakness.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that for the sake of you needing to
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: keep him in line, I needed to give you some
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: kind of ammunition. And yeah, it's I just don't really
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: see how Soanji overcomes his feeling of obligation to these guys,
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  Speaker 1: to this guy. And I can't help but wonder if
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be the reason why he winds
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: up marrying Pudding after all. Like, just for the record, everybody,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I know I've said it already, but I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 1: I am pro Sanji marrying Pudding. They are a great match.
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  Speaker 1: She's adorable. She loves to cook also, but she cooks
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  Speaker 1: different things. And I get that he doesn't want to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: do this because of what it would mean for the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: straw Hats. Whatever. We'll figure out a way around that.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: We'll find a way to deal with that later. But
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I for the just the principle of the marriage itself.
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  Speaker 1: I think they would be delightful together. So if he
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: were to go through with it, I'm down. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's just that I do get his look, even if
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: it weren't for the whole uh, I need to keep
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  Speaker 1: Big Mom from like basically either taking over the straw
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  Speaker 1: Hat Pirates or taking me away from the straw Hat Pirates.
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  Speaker 1: Even if that weren't the thing, I would understand not
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  Speaker 1: wanting to marry her simply out of principle of them
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  Speaker 1: telling him what to do, because I am also that
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  Speaker 1: kind of subborn you know, I am a person who
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: really doesn't respond well to being forced into anything. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: am going to be very very salty and uncooperative, even
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to the point where I wind up like injuring myself
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  Speaker 1: in some way. I know that it's not a good trait.
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  Speaker 1: I really am aware of it and try and fight it,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't help that that's how I feel. And
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  Speaker 1: so if it were just the fact that, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do what you want me to do,
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  Speaker 1: even if that were it, I would respect it. I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: really kind of would. But all things considered, his hang
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: ups about it are valid and understandable. I just really
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing what it looks like for Sanji
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  Speaker 1: to not only like be with somebody permanently, but also
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  Speaker 1: to be with somebody who has the same like interest
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  Speaker 1: that he has, you know what I mean. There's something
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: about both of them being into cooking that I think
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  Speaker 1: is just adorable, and I would I would love to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: see the two of them on the sunny, him making
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  Speaker 1: dinner and her making dessert, and the way that they
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  Speaker 1: would behave with each other. I think it would be adorable.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So it's just uh, Saraphim says, yeah, it makes sense
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to you, like Rioka in regard to the wandering in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: which I made a thread in the discord, because I'm
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: listening to the audiobook in my downtime, And yeah, I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: said that. I said that in the discord that like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I relate to Rioka just being obstinate for the sake
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: of it. I completely get Rioka as a character fundamentally,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: and her like simmering rage all the time. I get
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that too. I don't have the same reaction with it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: as she does, but I get it. So yeah. Uh.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: The scene that we start off with is him with
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: his family sitting down to a meal, and the first
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: thing that he says to one of his brothers is
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: finish your meal, don't waste that food, and his brother
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: says something about how the sauce that is made for
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: this for topping this meal is disgusting and he's not
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: going to finish it, and Sanji instantly like gets in
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: his feelings about it. And it's sort of funny because, look,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: if this were being written a different way, I understand
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that what we're doing is we're having characters act very
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: much in character and very obviously in character for the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: way that this story is told. But if we were
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: going to actually be smart about this, what we would
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: do is have sanjy unwilling to let it show how
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: much it bothers him, and he would be he would
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: say something about it, maybe, but he wouldn't be. So
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: what he does is he gives his siblings an opening
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: because he shows them what bothers him, and they are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: able to then zero in on oh, here's obviously a
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: way to get under his skin, and his brother whinds
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: up not only arguing about how like, no, I'm not
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: going to finish this, but then he calls the chef
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: into the room and beraates her in front of everybody
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and then throws the plate of food at her, and
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Soanji manages to interpose himself to keep her from getting hit.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: But it's really like for him the very last straw,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: He's like, it's one thing for you to be arrogant
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and wasteful, and it's another thing for you to hit women,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Like what the fuck is wrong with you? And clearly
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: his brother is just like, how can you give a fuck?
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: That's what it comes down to in all of this.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: At one point it's sort of weird. His brother says
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: something about, how ever, since you were a child, you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: have thought in a way that was completely inexplicable to
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the rest of the family. But then his father holds
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: up the picture of Zef and is like, I think
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: this is the guy who like corrupted your mind, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of wanted somebody to point out you just
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: said he's been like this since he was a kid,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: though you literally just said that, so obviously you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and what it is is, I'm holding this guy up
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm threatening him to you know. But it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: just that bit of dialogue that I kind of felt
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: like I thought we all had just established that he
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: has been like this since he was a child, So
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't make sense as an explanation either way.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I don't, like, I have no doubt that they would
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: be able to take down Zez. They know exactly the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: restaurant name, and even though he's far away. It's really funny,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: guys to think back, how do you guys feel sometimes
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: when this show does a when you start over and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you look at the fact that, like finding a map
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: to get into the Grand Line was in the beginnings
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of the show considered practically taboo, and then you get
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: here in the story and it's like everybody from all
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: over knows everybody, no matter where they are. It doesn't
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: really seem like anybody is out of reach or out
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: of sight. There's just something odd looking back at like
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the grand line being so off limits from the perspective
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: of people who aren't in it, and then now to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: how like it's a huge chunk of the world and
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: for so many people to just be like nobody goes there.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Apparently fucking everybody goes there. What do you mean? But anyway, this, uh,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we have a scene a little bit later where the
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: chef she is like by herself in I think a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: library or something, and she is thinking about Sangy, imagines
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: him and then thinks to herself as if which was
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a funny little bit and I was just like, oh shit,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: because her having a crush on him. So you guys,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I know that I know that like cartoons, it's gonna be.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: We've got different like language, so to speak, in terms
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: of the visuals to indicate when somebody is a trek
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and when they're not. But the whole way that it's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: played with this chef is that she's really unattractive. She's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: called homely by one of Sanji's brothers, and like the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: only thing different about her as compared to any of
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the other girls is the way that she's got freckles
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that seems to be it and like she's drawn without
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: real like kind of lipsticky lips, if that makes sense.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: A lot of female characters they're drawn with lips that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: are very exaggerated into different color and make it look
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like they have makeup on, and this girl doesn't have that.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Plus she's got like the freckles, and it's just one
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of those things, like I am somebody who is super freckly,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and I don't think that you can like necessarily see
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: it too much on camera, But I have a lot
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: of freckles, and I just grew up with freckles being
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the shorthand for somebody being unattractive my whole life, and
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it bothered me so much, like it really bummed me out,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And seeing it here is very funny because like she
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: looks otherwise identical to all the other girls. You know,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we've seen this this artist draw ugly women, but they
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: didn't do that with her. Sarah Fim says, I think
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the homely thing is just them being assholes. Disagree, if
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: only because her looking in the mirror and then thinking
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: about Soanjy and saying as if to me is the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: story itself, being like she doesn't think that she could
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: get with him because she's ugly and we're showing her
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: how ugly she is because she's looking in the mirror
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: and just like, oh my god, I can't stay to
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: look at myself. I think it's very much like canon
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that she's meant to be unattractive, but you know whatever,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's just I just want to register how funny it is.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: It's a similar thing in some ways, like any particular
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: woman in this series being meant to be super attractive
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: when she also looks just like everybody else. And yes,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Bo Hancock because you just look
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like Robin pretty much like you know. But yeah, so, uh,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Seraphim says, I think that's more a station thing. He's
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: a prince, she's just a I disagree. She's looking in
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the mirror. She's literally looking at her reflections. Seraphim like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think it could be more clear that it's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: about her appearance. That's just that's just how I'm interpreting that.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: It feels very much like it is about how she looks.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: She is looking at a reflection of herself, like that's
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: just shorthand, you know, but whatever. So anyway, this uh
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: for her? His brother Neon Blue, is that his name
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Electric Blue comes in, and he says something about how
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: she has gotten a big head because she's been defended
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: by Sanji. Maybe she's starting to think a little too
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: much of herself. And so he cracks his knuckles and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: we get like a zoom in on his hands as
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: he's cracking his knuckles, and then the camera pulls away
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and we see Sanji walking down the hall toward that
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: very room. And I was so ready for this to
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: be some kind of really awful sexual assault thing. This
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: show hasn't done that before, but I really feel like
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that's sort of the subtext here is probably that she
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: was not only beaten but sexually assaulted, you know what
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I mean. It just has that kind of tone to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: it of like he put her in her place. And
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the show is actually having that
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be what happened, but I feel that as part of
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the like head cannon, you know what I mean, that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: maybe we're not going to go that far because of
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this being geared more towards a family friendly audience, But
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that feels to me like very much the energy of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the scene, you know, And when he comes in, I
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: had thought she was going to be dead. To be honest,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I kind of had a moment of just like, oh
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: my god, did he kill her? And I should have
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: known that he didn't, but she looks so still when
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: she's on the floor when Sonji comes in that I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: genuinely was like, oh no, And Soanji I have no
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: idea what he's going to do now, because like he
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: can try and like nurse her back to health and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: protect her, but he is restrained in a very literal
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: sense from being able to help her in a material way.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, where can he put her that they wouldn't
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: find her? What can he do that they won't be
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: able to intercept and stop him from doing? I genuinely
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: can't imagine how he I don't know. So I appreciate
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the position that he is in with wanting to help,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but there's also a part of me that feels like, bro,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: maybe you should just leave her alone, because it seems
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like the more involved you get, the more they are
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: going to target her because they know it bothers you,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: and you just are giving them a target to zero
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: in on. You know, I don't believe that he means
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to do that at all, but that's just in effect
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: what is happening by him focusing on her, so anyway,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: the uh the there's another scene then after because you
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: know he's coping with this whole thing, and his other
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: brother comes in and it's just like, you're the one
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: who is basically you were the one who brought this
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: on her, and if you have a problem with what's
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: happened to her, maybe you should learn to keep your
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: mouth shut, and then says you should come with me,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and he brings Sanji with him down into the basement,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: which Sonji comments on the fact that I've never been
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: down here before, and he says that we weren't old enough,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: like while you were home, we hadn't reached the age
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: where it was okay for us. But now I'm going
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to show you something. It's sort of funny in a way,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: how uh, how cavalier he is about showing Sanji this
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: like family secret. I guess I don't like correct me
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, guys, but it seems like nobody knows
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: this information that this is secret? Right? Am I wrong
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: about that? If I'm wrong about it, then it kind
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: of changes up my feelings on the scene. But if
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: it is a secret, there's a feeling of maybe you
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: shouldn't show this to somebody who has said repeatedly how
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: much he doesn't want to be part of this family
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and how much he detests all of you. If you
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: want this to stay secret, my friend, this is not
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the guy to fucking like unload this information onto. But
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: he does. He tells him everything. And we see that
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: these soldiers, which like there have been plenty of soldiers
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: around that we've seen, are just regular people because they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: don't look like the guys in these tanks. So I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: think that it's like a mix. We've got some people
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: who are citizens and they're regular people, born in a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: normal way, and they are simply being trained, and then
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: we've got people who are literally like test tube babies
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and they are built to be similar to other really
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: powerful warriors. And it's uh, sort of it's very much
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: treated like, oh my god, this is so hideous, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: like it is it. It's a sort of a weird
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: place that I'm in because this family is such garbage
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: all ready that adding this on top of everything isn't
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: even making me feel any different about them, you know
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean. They're so despicable in their whole attitude
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: about everything that I am unchanged, utterly in regard to
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: what I think of them, because they already you know,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: them practicing this sort of thing. Yeah, this sucks, but
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: also like they are treating their own citizens so badly that,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you know, making them human shields, that I just don't
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: have any change in expression essentially when this is revealed. Honestly,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: I think that it's because I'm living in the age
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of Marvel, where everybody is trying to generate like superheroes
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and super soldiers and whatnot in all properties that this
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: kind of big reveal is played at this point in
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. This isn't a criticism of the writing
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: or anything at all. It's just like the nature of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: what happens when a certain type of fiction just becomes
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: really popular and so you get sort of inured to it,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and yeah, so there's just this feeling of like don
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: dun Dune, and I was just like, yawn, Yeah, so
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you guys already suck very much. This does not surprise me,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, especially considering that they evidently
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: want to team up with Mama, who's got Caesar Clown
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: working on another thing for her that's like about manipulating
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: human bodies and making them more like what she wants
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: from them. If they're willing to make regular people into
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: human shields and they are willing to throw in their
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: lot with Mama, who is as controlling as she is,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: all of this is just a piece, you know. But yeah,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: so let's jump over quickly to Carrot and Chopper. They
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: come up with a really fun idea that I liked
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a lot because there was this whole thing in the
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: last episodes of how they're locked in this mirror world
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and they're looking around trying to like figure out what
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: exactly is going on, and there's all of these like
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: spiraling walkways and other mirrors, and it's Chopper who finally
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: like puts it together. Oh, I think that all of
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: these are mirrors in other places that we can like
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: step out of, or not necessarily step out it, but
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: at least look out of. And thus, maybe if we
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: go to the right room where there is a mirror,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: and if Sanji is in there, we're going to be
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: able to like signal him somehow. I don't know if
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Sanji would be able to step into the mirror world
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: with them. It's clear like they're not able to get
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: out of that world. So if he did step in
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: with them, I don't know if it would be good
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: any good, because the only person that could evidently let
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: them out again would be the witch. And we saw that,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: like breaking the mirror doesn't let them out. Breaking the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: mirror doesn't hurt them, They're fine. But the mirror itself
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: isn't the trap they It can be broken and they
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: still are trapped in there, so it has nothing to
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: do with that apparently. So the question becomes, what's the
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: point Even if you can find and you can wave
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to him like, hey, we're inside this mirror, if he
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: can't climb in there with you, then you need to,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like what give him a message that you guys are
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: looking for him and he knows that you're on your way.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: He has to know. And they don't have like pen
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and paper. I don't know if they can hear each other.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I am just wondering, like, if they do manage to
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: find him, what exactly are they gonna do? How are
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: they going to you know what I'm saying. I just
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: don't know what to expect in that regard. So, yeah,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I will be curious to see it. But I do
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: really like the idea of being between places with mirrors
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: to travel. I've always found this whole concept to be
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: like really unsettling and always interesting. This is something that's
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: also in uh Doctor Strange, not Doctor Strange, Oh my god,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Strange and mister Noral right is the name of
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the book series if you haven't read it or they did,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I think a BBC mini series on it, and it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: was really good. I actually covered it with my now
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: husband and it was one of the better adaptations I've
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: ever seen, which I think is because they decided to
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: have it be like a series rather than a movie.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: But there's a similar thing in there where eventually somebody
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: learns how to travel like between mirrors, and it's really
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. So yeah, I just wonder exactly what
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: the like. I don't blame them for going to look
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: for him, because what else are you gonna do you're
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: stuck in here? You know you may as well, But
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know what actually this accomplishes. Saraphim said they
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: would at least know where he is to go get him.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I guess it depends on how good the communication is
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: on whether they would know where to go get him,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: because like you look out a mirror into a room,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't necessarily tell you that much. You can
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: see what room he's in, and maybe if you can
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: see out the window, you can see if they're close
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to a certain landmark or whatever, if he is able
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: to write down where he is and hold it up
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: for them to read, or if they are able to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: actually talk to each other. I think they must be
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: able to talk, because they were talking out of the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: mirror in the woods with Nami, So I think that's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: got to be like possible, right. I don't know if
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: it's different based on like, well, this is the mirror
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: that she used to put you in here, and so
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you can talk out of that one but not other ones.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna assume it's not that complicated. So probably
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: they could just talk to him and he could just
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: tell them where he is, which would be kind of
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: funny if it turned out that, like communicating him from
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the mirror was so much easier that they kind of
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be let out yet, And what if
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the witch was like gonna take them out of there,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and they were like, no, no, no, wait, maybe you
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: should just leave me, you know what I mean? That
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: would be sort of amusing, but yeah, so that's what
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: they're up to. And I just think that this is
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: a neat concept and I really like there's a whole
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: thing with Chopper asking Carrot to call him big brother,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and she she changes up what he asks to call him,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: like chopper bro something like that. Chow bro, I think,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is what she calls in and it feels like Chopper
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: does not like that art that nickname. Initially, eventually he
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: goes with it because she like compliments him while using
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that nickname, but uh, and eventually like she keeps using
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it and it seems to sort of roll off him
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and be fine. But it is sort of funny that
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: at first when she's like, oh, chow Bro, He's like, what, like,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't really apparently seem to like it, but yeah, you know,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I just think anytime that somebody winds up getting a
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: nickname from somebody, unless it's like obviously very offensive, but
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: mostly I always find it kind of charming. I think
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: it's cute, so I'm for it. And he's like the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: idea of the two of them getting a little bit
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: closer is very cute, and I just like the fact
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that they are finding a way to be useful. But
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: like from within their prison. This is a really tricky
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: situation that they have found themselves in, and they are
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: exploring and doing something with it, and that is admirable.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: We have a very brief check in with Brooke and Pedro.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Brooke is I think, like pretty much hiding in Pedro's coat,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. It's a weird thing. But it
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: seems like they're just kind of walking around at night,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: looking about, and there isn't really much actually happening with
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: the two of them yet. We're just sort of getting
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: an update on what it is that they're doing to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: remind us that they're there. And I do want to
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: point out that, like, we haven't gone back to the
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: group that was left with the Oh my god, what
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: are they called? The other animal people on the elephant.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I can't remember, Zoe. We haven't checked in with any
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: of those folks. It's kind of like interesting to me
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: how the story has gotten a lot more consistent with
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: splitting our people up quite far from each other. It's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: not it used to be We're going to reach a
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: location and our friends are going to be separated at
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: that island from each other, and now it's no our
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: friends are each going to be on different islands, on
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: different ships, doing completely different things. I don't love this
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: as much as a trend, and I'm curious how you
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: all feel about it, because, like, in large part, I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: understand it, and there have been times where I'm like, Okay,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: you know, like this is interesting, but I just feel
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: like it feels like we're doing this to cope with
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the fact that the straw Hat crew has gotten large
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: enough that it's become more unwieldy. And to that, I say, well,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: you don't need to ask everybody we meet to join
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the straw Hats, then oda. You know, we have this
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: whole thing as well, with fucking Jimbay now wanting to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: be one of them. And I'm just like, enough, already,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: we have plenty of members. You already have to split
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: them up to manage their storylines. Let's just leave it.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Let's just say that we have as many as we
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: need and let them stick together as a team. I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: just don't like being away from one group for so
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: long that we just don't get to see them at all,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: you know. I I think that part of it too,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: is like when we were in Dress Rosa, it was
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: let's see loofy Robin, Frankie, Oosop, Zoro was Brooke with them.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: He wasn't he was with the ones that went to Zoe, right,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: So it feels like basically everybody who was with Lufy
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and Dress Rosa got left on Zoe, so that now
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: we can spend more time with this other group. Of course,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: we still have to have Loofy with them. Lufy's present always,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: but I just don't really like the energy of there
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: being a huge chunk of the crew missing. It's one
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: thing when we're split up on the same island because
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: the camera goes back and forth between us and we
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: get to check in with them, But if we're not
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: doing that, we're just leaving them out of the story
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: entirely for huge chunks, and I don't like it. I
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: think it sucks. I miss my other people a lot,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Florian says, I have thoughts about the crew splitting.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: We are now with all the straw hats who were
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: not undressed Rosa for the most part. Okay, Yeah, I
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: think at the end of it all, you can make
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a call if it was worth it. I think there
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: are pros and cons. Yeah, agree, I mean, granted, it's
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: just I don't know I I'll be curious to see
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: exactly how this winds up, for sure, But just like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: from where I'm sitting right now, I feel like, again,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: we finally got everybody back together. I was really pleased
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to have the whole team, and then we were only
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: together for like a few episodes, like even when they
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: reached Oh, other members of the party are still separated
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: from the rest, and then Sanji leaves, so nobody has
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: like the whole crew hasn't been together in a minute
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: at this point. And I think that the dynamic between
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the characters is what makes things the most interesting, and
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: once you decide to like fuck with that in favor
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: of plot, I just really am not as interested. That's
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: just kind of what it comes down to. And I
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: know that that's not what interests Oda as much. I
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: am not in alignment with him in terms of what
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I find compelling. I am interested in very different things
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: in terms of story than he is. So it's something
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that I struggle with a lot with this series, where
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: there's points where I just love what's happening and what
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: we're doing and it's full of like weird surprises, and
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: he just decides to do something truly off the wall
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: and that sustains me, But then there are long portions
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: where I'm just like, why did you think this was
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: what was going to be of interest? Dude? What made
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: you feel like this was the way? Because to me,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: this is the least interesting and least compelling angle to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: come at this from. And I'm curious if, like, anything
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: about that approach changes or if it's just sort of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: this is how he does it forever, because this is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: one of those series that I think I would you know,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I'm not usually much of a fan of like fanfic,
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: but this is a series where I could see getting
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: very into fanfic, just because I am unsatisfied a lot
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: of the time with how much we go into actual
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: character stories. We go into like people's like history to
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: figure out what motivates them, but it is sort of
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: surface level and beyond that we just see the superficial
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: interactions a lot of the time, And I would be
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: very into seeing who these people are beyond the most
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: surface level. We're friends, we have each other's backs, and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: we like each other. Yeah, but like what else you know?
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Because not all of you like each other. We know
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: sorrow and Soanji don't like each other, who gets along
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: with who most and where does that come from beyond
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: just Loofy and Chopper get along because they both like food.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: You know. I just want a little bit more depth,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I think at this point, and in splitting the crew up,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it feels like it's a promise that we're not gonna
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: get that, and it makes me a little sad. But
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I don't know. I always, as
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: y'all know, get the most irritated when it feels like
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: there is a lot of potential in something that isn't realized.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: And I can have that with this show a lot,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: not as badly as some things that I have. In
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the end just quit watching because I got too annoyed.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: But this show, there are certainly moments that I'm like,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: either thinking we're gonna go in a certain direction and
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: we just don't and we do something very boring, or
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: we do something that is interesting but we don't go
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: hard enough into it. And then there are times where
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we get something incredible. You know, fucking Senor Pink's whole
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: thing was the best. It was so great, and the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: whole country on the back of an elephant is such
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: an interesting, weird idea. You know, he can pull things
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: out at times where I'm just like, where's this been
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the whole time? And you have like such an imagination clearly,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: so why do you play it so safe so often? Anyway?
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, this is uh, this might take away in
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: these three episodes. It's like some highs and some lows.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: It's mostly kind of mid right now. But I've been
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: enjoying the previous episodes a lot, so I'm hoping that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: will pick up again. All right, everybody, I'm gonna wrap up.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you again for hanging out with me in the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: chat and bearing with me when I had to restart
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: because of some weird issues, And thank you Bernadet for
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: commissioning this one. Until next time to the Loo, motherfuckers.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: That was an unspoiled work podcast