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Bob Nightengale’s SPICY Hot Stove Notes + Breslow’s Red Sox plans · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: USA Today Insider Bob and I and got covering the
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  Speaker 1: GM meetings right now, joining us on FT not just
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  Speaker 1: today but more regularly. Bob, we're excited about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we love having you on here, so I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: to tell the world you'll see more, Bob. Bob, it's
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  Speaker 1: great to have you. Do you enjoy these appearances? I
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  Speaker 1: hope you do, because you're going to see us more now.
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  Speaker 2: Love hanging up with you guys, love watching you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a pleasure. Bob.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just happy we got you off the craps table
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  Speaker 3: to get you up here to do this interview. So
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  Speaker 3: thank you for taking a five minute break to come
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  Speaker 3: see us.
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  Speaker 2: I love craps I do. I know, I know. There
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  Speaker 2: you go.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Bob, we're excited. Yeah, we love doing these. So
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  Speaker 1: let's dive right in and let's pick some things out
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  Speaker 1: from your latest notes column. Let's start with the defending
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  Speaker 1: champce Los Angeles Dodgers. The storyline with them is always
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  Speaker 1: spending and they're out spending everyone. But I thought you
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  Speaker 1: took a different turn. That was interesting. News flash, there's
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  Speaker 1: actually a lot of money coming off the books for
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  Speaker 1: this team, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got eighty seven million dollars coming off, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going back to Chris Taylor no longer there, Michael Conporto
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  Speaker 2: will be gone playing Kershall will be gone. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: any seven million bucks come off the books. They need
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  Speaker 2: to get that bullpen right. Obviously, they're not going to
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  Speaker 2: pitch starters, you know, in relief like it did in
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  Speaker 2: the postseason. You can't do that in the regular season.
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  Speaker 2: But I think they got to go get a big
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  Speaker 2: time closer and kind of in the nonsense that happened
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  Speaker 2: last year. They got away with it, you know, last year.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they get away with it this year.
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  Speaker 3: Edwin Diz Bob Dz to the Dodgers. Are we talking
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  Speaker 3: big like that or are we talking smaller? Hopefully Tanner
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  Speaker 3: Scott who go has a new butt coming back and
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  Speaker 3: some of these other guys trying in another year like
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  Speaker 3: is there? Are we talking go out and sign a
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  Speaker 3: big name again.
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  Speaker 2: I think that you'll get a big name. I think
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  Speaker 2: they'll be in the DS thing. You know, he can
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  Speaker 2: do it. I don't know if they bringing back Kelly Janssen.
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  Speaker 2: I think a cool story uh if he did come back. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: but they'd love to get some stud Uh tell you what,
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  Speaker 2: and if listen for class A gambling thing and they
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  Speaker 2: would be all in on him, getting him to LA,
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  Speaker 2: training for him. So that type of guy, and they
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  Speaker 2: he had a guy that they don't worry about. I
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  Speaker 2: think Dave Roberts has loses his mind having to pick
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  Speaker 2: and choose night after night.
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  Speaker 3: What about p Fairbanks he just got he just got
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  Speaker 3: DFA or non tender or whatever they did however you
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  Speaker 3: want to he.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: He he likes pitching in warm weather because he gets
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  Speaker 3: the finger thing when it's too cold.
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  Speaker 4: And La is about the same every day. LA and
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  Speaker 4: San Diego, San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's well, San Francisco not so much, but
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  Speaker 3: the other two are pretty good in Arizona's insight.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good division.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good call. I mean, Freeman loves his
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  Speaker 2: Tampa guys, and uh, I was in a relationship there
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  Speaker 2: and they got you know, Blake Snell from there, and
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  Speaker 2: they got donand vast Now from there. Why not? So
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  Speaker 2: that's a good call.
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  Speaker 5: The trade, the trade part of it, because you just
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  Speaker 5: said they got Tyler Glass now and everybody thinks all
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  Speaker 5: they signed him as a free agent, they traded for
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  Speaker 5: him and then they extended him. Are there any candidates
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  Speaker 5: for the Dodgers out there where it's like a team
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  Speaker 5: that needs maybe some money coming off their books, and
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  Speaker 5: the Dodgers are like, hey, we're willing to take that
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  Speaker 5: because you know, we see the value in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you started off, there's that one reliever out there,
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  Speaker 2: But uh, I think they'll be in on everybody. I
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  Speaker 2: don't you know, I don't see Kyle Tucker going there.
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  Speaker 2: He's from you know, Tampa area. I think he still
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  Speaker 2: stays you don't like to stay back east, but I
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  Speaker 2: think they'll make him. Honest. Yeah, they were never in on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're never going a focal owner one, so doo they
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  Speaker 2: but they wanted to make sure the Yankees and Mets
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  Speaker 2: had a fair pay, fair price or overpay to get
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  Speaker 2: the guy. I think the same thing with the you know,
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  Speaker 2: with him as well, where you'll they'll say, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we need an outfielder. We got a hole here, but
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  Speaker 2: we don't need to spend three hundred and fifty four
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  Speaker 2: million from Kyle Tacker.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then my next question that leads you into
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  Speaker 3: my next question. You kind of brought up the Mets
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  Speaker 3: and then your call him, you said the Mets are
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  Speaker 3: one of the biggest disappointments and they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: spend again. But then you also mentioned the Orioles who
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  Speaker 3: did the bare minimum and free agency, right, So who's
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  Speaker 3: under more pressure the Mets to make the playoffs with
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  Speaker 3: the huge payroll or michae Elias to get it right
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  Speaker 3: with the new manager and everything else they have going
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  Speaker 3: on there.
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  Speaker 4: And also the window for the.
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  Speaker 3: Orioles kind of starting to shrink a little bit as
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  Speaker 3: these guys keep adding ears.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Elias is under more pressure just because
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  Speaker 2: I think his job is more on the line where
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, David Stearns is going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: But no, it's embarrassing to have that kind of payroll
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  Speaker 2: and not make the playoffs or even the Mets. The Orioles.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're right, a Jay. I mean, you got
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  Speaker 2: to take advantage of those young guys. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: have them step up. So you know, they got to
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  Speaker 2: make a big move. They lost Corbyn Burns, they got
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  Speaker 2: to replace him with his star so I think that
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  Speaker 2: they got to go get one of the top pitchers,
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  Speaker 2: and hey, you know, the guy you know, new ownership,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta spend some money. He hasn't spending big money yet.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 5: You talk about in your in your article, you talked
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  Speaker 5: about the lockout and how teams might be stashing money
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  Speaker 5: away for the lockout. You got a full season here.
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  Speaker 5: Are there any teams that are gonna say, you know what,
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  Speaker 5: if there is a lockout, we're gonna kind of be
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  Speaker 5: behind the eight ball a little bit because our young
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  Speaker 5: players are gonna get older. Are there any teams that
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  Speaker 5: are gonna say, screw the lockout, We're pushing all in
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  Speaker 5: for this next season because there could be a lockout
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  Speaker 5: and not just say ah, we're pulling back because we're
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  Speaker 5: fearful of the lockout.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they're all fearful. But I haven't heard
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  Speaker 2: any GM saying, hey, I got orders for my owner
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  Speaker 2: to say we're gonna scale back here. I think what's
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  Speaker 2: gonna be interesting in these free agent contracts is how
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  Speaker 2: they're structured. I think we're gonna see more contracts frontloaded. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if there's only a half a season in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven or what have you make, you make that more
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  Speaker 2: money lost. The Diamondbacks can't kicking themselves. They backloaded massive
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  Speaker 2: bottom leaders contract so during the COVID season it only
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  Speaker 2: cost you know, bum under a couple million dollars and
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  Speaker 2: he still got all the money in the back end.
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  Speaker 2: I think we'll see more frontload of contracts because of
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  Speaker 2: the potential lockout.
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  Speaker 1: to get to the trademarket. Let's start here. You put
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  Speaker 1: I get it. You don't think Trek Scoogle gets traded
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  Speaker 1: this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, you know, you push it to
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  Speaker 2: a limit there for the in the playoffs. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Tiger fans are going nuts. They're well below the
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  Speaker 2: luxury tacks, so you're not gonna get fair value. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what are you going to get for Cherry Scooble, You know,
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  Speaker 2: nothing compared to what he's worth now July. You know
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  Speaker 2: they can listen say what you know what we got
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  Speaker 2: to move them. We'll still get a lot back in return.
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  Speaker 2: I just think that the fan pushback would be so intense.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't trade this guy. Just too valuable. Mat Me,
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  Speaker 2: it's the number one guy out there.
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  Speaker 1: Counterpoint, what if they're good next year, which they should
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  Speaker 1: be I mean, if you're a contending team, how can
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  Speaker 1: you trade one of the best starters in this sport?
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  Speaker 2: You can't. Yeah, I just think ride with it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to worse, you get a uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a draft pick and return. But I think you gotta
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  Speaker 2: you'll go with it for him, and uh you see
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  Speaker 2: what the price is is someone gonna pay four hundred
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  Speaker 2: million and then it's up to you whether you want
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  Speaker 2: to match or not. I don't think he's gonna take
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  Speaker 2: a hometown discount. I think you like the stay needs right,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not gonna take less money to stand needs right.
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  Speaker 4: Bob, Why can't they sign him?
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  Speaker 3: Do we need do we need to raise mister Illich
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  Speaker 3: back up and get him to sign this guy? This
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  Speaker 3: guy needs to stay a Tiger. They have the money.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned the that they're under the luxury tax. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know Glabor Torres is a free agent, but they
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  Speaker 3: have some young guys that are on their way, and
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  Speaker 3: they're on their way fast. Why can't they just I
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  Speaker 3: know Boris doesn't do it, but I'm talking about after
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  Speaker 3: the season. Wouldn't they You think they'd be the favorite
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  Speaker 3: to sign him back? And why not try to get
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  Speaker 3: something done now to give your fans hope.
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  Speaker 2: They shit, I don't know what to take now, take
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  Speaker 2: over four hundred million to do it, Lisa nine are
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  Speaker 2: young to do it now and probably take ten years
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  Speaker 2: at least four or fifty million. I don't see the
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  Speaker 2: Tigers doing that. But yeah, I mean agree aging. If
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  Speaker 2: you know mister Eliz was still alive, he would get
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  Speaker 2: it done. He would do whatever it takes. But you
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  Speaker 2: know the rest of the family with mster real edge
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  Speaker 2: isn't built the same way they saw have been on
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  Speaker 2: the luxury tacks or when Mike Elitch was alive. You
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  Speaker 2: know he was spending as much money as a Steinberg
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  Speaker 2: family and everybody else.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Bob, you ruffled some feathers in San Diego when
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  Speaker 1: you threw out the name Fernando Tatist Junior for the
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  Speaker 1: Padres and the trade block. Can you explain what you
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  Speaker 1: wrote about.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they got so many backloaded contracts where you know
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  Speaker 2: they've lost money the last few years. When you talk
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  Speaker 2: to gms around the land, they say these guys are
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  Speaker 2: in big time trouble. You know they're losing money even
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  Speaker 2: though they're back in the place. So you can't trade
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  Speaker 2: any Machado. You can't raid Xander Bogarts. Tatisa's contract as
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  Speaker 2: big as it is, it's actually movable. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: the trail of this winner, but I think at some
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  Speaker 2: point you talk at GMS, at some point you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to move them. You're gonna have to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of one of these big contracts. You know, you're not
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  Speaker 2: moving darbish. You're not moving Musgrove or Machado or Bogarts.
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  Speaker 2: He's a guy that's actually still has value even with
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  Speaker 2: that big contract.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, that's the name we haven't heard until until now.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, everyone's talking Bragman, everyone's talking Tucker, everyone's
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  Speaker 4: talking but shet as free agents.
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  Speaker 3: But the guy that I'm interested in is ped Alonzo.
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  Speaker 3: Ped Alonso went through hell last year. Right to go
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  Speaker 3: back to a team you should have It shouldn't even
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  Speaker 3: have been close. Is he gonna end up back in
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  Speaker 3: New York again? And on a short term deal? Why
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  Speaker 3: will no team go out on a limbit sign pee
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  Speaker 3: Alonso to a long term deal? All this guy does
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  Speaker 3: is play one hundred and fifty plus games every year.
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  Speaker 3: Hit you forty homers driving a hundred bob like this
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  Speaker 3: is the guy. You would think he doesn't get in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: You would think this would be the guy that you
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  Speaker 3: just say, hey, we'll give you a five year twenty
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  Speaker 3: million or what I mean, just random numbers. But and
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  Speaker 3: go play first base for the next five years.
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  Speaker 4: And hit US two hundred homers.
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  Speaker 2: You would think so. But someone tells you that David
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  Speaker 2: Stearns just doesn't want him back. I mean his last
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  Speaker 2: press coverage into the season kept talking about runby bench
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  Speaker 2: and run Pa bench a million different times. And obviously,
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  Speaker 2: you know best at the best defensive first baseman I
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  Speaker 2: used to don't. I think they would rather plug in
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  Speaker 2: the holes different ways. And I think Stearns has got
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  Speaker 2: to talk to the owner, you know, Cohen, and say,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let's get to use the money. We
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  Speaker 2: don't have to have he a Lonzo back. If they
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  Speaker 2: want him back, they would have made him go through
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  Speaker 2: all the hoops he did last year. I think I
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  Speaker 2: think he walks. I think they'd raight go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: I think Alonso would be a great fit in Boston.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Well, what about Kyle Schwarmer, Because Kyle Schwarmer
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  Speaker 5: was a great fit when he was in Boston. Is
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  Speaker 5: there any way the Phillies let him go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see it. I don't you ever talked to
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  Speaker 2: Phillies just say forget what he does. You know on
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  Speaker 2: the field, but off the field he just means everything.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's the one most indispensable player in the
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  Speaker 2: will clubhouse. He's the clubhouse leader. Everything goes through him,
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  Speaker 2: that run things past him. I mean, you know, Bryce
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  Speaker 2: Harper is still a guy that I think Dave Debowski
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  Speaker 2: runs straight through with free agency. What do you think
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  Speaker 2: about this guy? But schwarbur is right there too. I
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  Speaker 2: just can't see no matter what kind of money he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get offered, that they'll let him want. I
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  Speaker 2: think just too valuable.
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  Speaker 5: Is it a case where he takes somebody else's offer
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  Speaker 5: and takes it back to the Phillies and the Phillies
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  Speaker 5: match it or exceed it, because that could get pricey
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  Speaker 5: for a d H with a team who has a
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  Speaker 5: lot of guys who are getting up there in age
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  Speaker 5: on extended contracts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they do do that. Remember the Yankees
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  Speaker 2: Is used that with Starnberg, and they would let those guys,
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  Speaker 2: they would try to lock them up, they let them
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  Speaker 2: hit free agency say Okay, what if you see out there,
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  Speaker 2: let us know it won't match it, or go above it.
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  Speaker 2: I think the same thing here, tell schwarb or go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and see what you get out there. I know
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  Speaker 2: they tried to sign him to extension last spring weren't
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  Speaker 2: even close, so I think they say, Okay, whatever you
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  Speaker 2: think your value is, go find out and come back
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  Speaker 2: to us. And I think he loves Philadelphia too. I
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  Speaker 2: just case a perfect fit where he ends up filling
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of his career.
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  Speaker 4: Bob. But everyone's saying Cincinnati because he's from Ohio. Come on,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, come on, Bob, we gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Keep up here, Bob. Everyone's saying Cincinnative though they'll never
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  Speaker 3: pay him, but they want him to go there so badly. Anyways,
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  Speaker 3: earlier before you came out, we were talking about the
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  Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. Okay, and Drake Baldwin won and
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  Speaker 3: the Nashley Kurtz is no brainer. Drake Baldwin won, but
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  Speaker 3: they have Sean Murphy and then there's Drake Baldwin. If
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  Speaker 3: you were the GMF, you're Alex and Toopolos of the Braves.
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  Speaker 3: Do you try to trade one of those guys? Probably
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  Speaker 3: Murphy because he makes more money and if you don't.
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  Speaker 3: We were kind of going back and forth. Did they
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  Speaker 3: split time like eighty one eighty one and mixing some
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  Speaker 3: DH time?
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  Speaker 4: Because if you do it that way, no one's gonna
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  Speaker 4: really be happy. You see what I'm saying. So what
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  Speaker 4: do you think the Braves will do? What they're catching them?
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  Speaker 2: I think it makes more sense to trade Murphy. You're
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  Speaker 2: not going to trade Drake. Baldwin just means too much
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  Speaker 2: that franchise and h yeah, you can have Murphy, you know,
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  Speaker 2: being more DH. But I agree with you is that
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  Speaker 2: they need to develop this guy. I mean, this guy
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  Speaker 2: is unbelievable talent, and I you know, I think it's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I mean a you know, you guys are both catchers,
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  Speaker 2: but the fact yet but you know, we haven't had
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  Speaker 2: a black catcher twenty five years, but this guy to
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  Speaker 2: do this, I think it's great for the sport, great
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  Speaker 2: for Atlanta, and uh, I can see Murphy on the
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  Speaker 2: trade block. Uh, you know, if they want to go
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  Speaker 2: that route. But Baldwin's a guy for the future. And
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  Speaker 2: I think even both catchers stay, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: Baldwin that gets more of the playing time. Than Murphy, Bob.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: I want to take us to something really relevant to
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: where you are right now. Fran Rabaldez made the trip
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to the GM meetings and he's going to meet with teams.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious why that is the case.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: There could be some questions about his character, and it
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: really is specifically linked to an incident a couple of
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: months ago that I believe initially was denied. So what
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: do you know? Have you seen him, have you walked
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: by him? And what do you know about the conversations
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: that might go on between Fromber and teams. I mean,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: that situation went hyper viral. Our guys were all over that,
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: but they didn't really address it. I mean they definitely
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: didn't admit it.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: No, I never admitted it. I think it's a smart
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: move on the agent's part to have and meet with teams.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I know, the guys who have had kind of character
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: issues the issue the agents have done that. I think
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: he's very smart in this thing. What happened there? What
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: kind of guy are you? You don't have to admit a publicly,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: but why did you do that? Why did you turn
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: your back when you're catch? You got to hit like
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: that and I think it rubbed a lot of you know,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: teams wrong way, and I think an eighteen that would
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: sign him has got to find out why did that happen?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Is it going to happen again? You know they want
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: to know about the character. So I remember going back
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: to Carl Ever days and that type of things. Guy's
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: a question of character. You want to get in fun
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: of GMS to say, hey, here's my guy. You know
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: you could ask me anything you want. So I think
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: no team in baseball would touch Framber Bell Daz without
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: addressing what happened that night.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, take it easy on Carl Everett, Okay, just because
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: he didn't believe in dinosaurs or astronauts or hold up
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different things. Bob, take care of my
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: teammate on the two thousand and five World Series. I
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: do with fight for you. I'll tell you that.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: So take it easy on Carl. You know he had
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: a bad reputation, but that dude will fight for you.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: If you're on the team now, Bob, I want to
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: know you have roots of Minnesota. That's where I first
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: got to know you, was up in Minneapolis. What the
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: heck's going on?
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: With the Twins.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Are they gonna trade Joe Ryan? Are they gonna sell
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: the team? Are they gonna try and move Pablo Lopez?
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Like Twins fans all the time, and people mostly know
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: him from the White Sox. But I still have friends
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: of Minnesota and they're like, what is going on with Twins?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So help me out, Bob, what is going on with
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: the Twins.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think even their front office knows what's going
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: to happen. They still don't have a budget. What's going
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: to happen next year? Yeah, I mean they got the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: new ownership in there and say, Okay, we're gonna cut
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: down debt, but hey, forget about the debt. We're gonna
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: do for us right now. I think they have to
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: spend money if you're going to sell tickets. I think
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: people are so disgusted there that the all that family
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: is still involved, that you know it's not going to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: get people go back in the stadium. I mean, I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: think Minnesota target Field is you know, right there behind
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you know PNC in Pittsburgh as far as the most
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: beautiful ballpark, So I think they got to spend I
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: think people are so discussed there that they haven't tried
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: to improve that team. So when that release came out, like, oh,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: good news, we're keeping the team, we have more money
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: coming in, and the fans say, oh, man, we're talking
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: about good news. That's portable news.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And also I flat out do not believe them, just
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like most fans don't believe them. They're still trying to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: sell the team. They're just going to wait until after
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the CBA and try and get a little more money.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: So this will be the ultimate test. If they have
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: more money, they're going to spend a little bit to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: try and replenish what they shut away. We shall see, Bob.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Great catching up with you. We're excited to have you
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: on more frequently. So we'll talk to you again soon
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and have fun out there and do well tonight. Uh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: not just coverage wise, but crafts wise, exactly.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Hit those dice, hey, Bob, Well, well before you go,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Bob real quick. So we have a person on the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: show that bets that don't pass line. You like fun, Bob,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: So I know you are not betting that don't pass line.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: You are you want? You're a man of the people.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I hate those people I hate.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you, Thank you, everybody does. Thank you.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: It just drives me nuts. You have to die. You
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: look at the guy, you look at the eye. Those
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: are the worst is That's the thing about crafts is
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: everybody's room for the same thing. That's what makes it fun,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a lot more fun.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Though, unless you know Mark and he's not he's rooting
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: against you. I always remember that, Bob when you're there.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: He loves the villain role.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, loves the villain.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Roll well, Bob, Thank you, enjoy it out there. We'll
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: talk to you soon.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
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• 20:14
  Speaker 1: We've got Craig Breslow quotes from the GM meetings. I'll
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: let you guys decide which category you'd like to jump
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: into first, because I have quotes good work by many
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of the reporters out there, including Jen McCaffrey of The Athletic.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Would you like to talk about Trevor's story, the pitching,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: the lineup or Alex Bragman And then I'll cue up
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a quote.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: What do you got to ching pitching? Because they need
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: pitching pitching?
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Okay? He said. The team will not pursue back of
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the rotation options, while hinting without explicitly saying, you might
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: prefer acquiring a starter in free agency over trade, he
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: said via The Athletic because of the depth that we've
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: built up over the last couple of years. We feel
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: pretty good about overall starting pitching and number three ish
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: through ten ish on the depth chart. That's not to
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: take away from guys who are certainly capable of doing more,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: but I don't think we're going to spend a ton
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of time trying to add a number four or five starter.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: If we're going to make a starting pitching edition, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: think it should be somebody who can pitch at the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: front of a rotation and start a playoff game for us.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I thought he worded that very well, because you have
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to say, hey, I'm looking for a top end starter,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: no offense to three through ten. You can elevate, but
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: I'm also still going to look for somebody that can
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: be that guy. I actually thought that was worded correctly.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: It was, but that means he also said they're going
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: to have to spend.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they've done it. I mean they traded for Garrett.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: Crochet traded for Garrett.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Right, they're in on everyone. But wait, what happened when
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: they got Kyrot? Crochet made the damn playoffs this year?
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Crochet was a top three starter in the ALE.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so who they going to go get in free agency?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Who's the best pitcher out.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: There, is Framber the best.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: One, He's one of them. Dylan Ce's you.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: He's the best with the highest highest ceiling. I mean
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: if the guys Obviously people argue like Michael King, Dylan
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: Cease has started playoff games all that stuff. I mean,
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: Framervadas has won. Did he win two World Series or
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: just one? But I mean, like some of his some
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: of his stats, some of Framber's stats. You know, he's
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: he's right up there with with Zach Wheeler and quality
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: starts with you know, over the last decade. I mean,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: this guy's probably the best. I have a hard time believing, though,
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: after a team goes and gets Crochet in a trade,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that they wouldn't be like that kind of worked out
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: for us. We got the guy for one hundred and
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: seventy million after we traded for him, when we extended him.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing they wouldn't they wouldn't
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: touch the trade market. And the other part that he said,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: he was like, yeah, you know, we've built up We've
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: built up a nice group of young He didn't build
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: nothing up. That was the other regime. He should have said.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: We inherited a lot of nice depth in our organization.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Right, that is very true. As far as the framber
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: fit now framber in Boston. Now, I think he needs
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to be in a place with less heat. And I'm
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: not talking about the weather, fan media, et cetera. Knowing
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the personality pretty well.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I just we'll too. I mean, because their big thing
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: is they got to find Starters's gone.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: They have starters, They have starters, but they need He
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: wants one more big boy. That's all. He wants one
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: more big boy. Right, we'll get him because they're gonna
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: have I'm not looking at a depth chart, but Crochet,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: they're going to have Bao, They're gonna have totally, They're
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: gonna have early Early, and a number of others. But
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and totally Early.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Might take Dobbins is out for the year.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hurt.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: But Chris Sale, Oh wait, no Valdi? Maybe they signed
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: a Valdi They worked out there once.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Is he a free agent?
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: I thought he was? No, maybe not, you know he's not.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: He signed, and I.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Think they I think I think there are teams that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: really want to get Japanese talent in their organization and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: open up that pipeline because it has been so heavily
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: dominated by the Dodgers right now. I think Michael King's
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: an option ceases an option. I think there's a chance
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they bring back Giolito. I think Zach Gallen would pitch
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: well there. I think Zach Gallen is the opposite. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: think he needs to be in a big market. He
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: he looks like New York starts. So put him in Boston.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Merrill Kelly, I think could be a fit.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: There's not ones or two's he said he wants to one. Well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Kelly did great.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Absolutely deserves a two year deal. Yeah, he's he's more
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: of a three or four. Like if you're going into
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: that in the postseason. I have a hard time believing,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: Like they see what starting pitching value is. Hopefully they
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: use some of that three hundred and twenty six million
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: they got off the books for getting rid of devors
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: because the other part they need to clean up their defense.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And I know people will say, well, if this person's
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: healthy and then the whole year of this, like they
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: need to clean their defense up. If you're a pitcher
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: and you're going somewhere, you're gonna have to pay somebody
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: because you have to get a ton of strikeouts because
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: there is not a lot of pitchers who are like,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, I'm fine without my defense behind me, Like
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: they need to clean up some of that defensive issues too.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: That leads to why his comments about Bregman were so interesting,
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: because Bregman's a solid defender at third base, cleans up
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: a lot of messes. And he's like, well, we know
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: what he did, but I'm not going to talk about it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: We also know what he could do. That's just that
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: it's so GM speaker, Bragman should be back.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: You look great.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: And then when they say add power to the lineup,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a full year room and Anthony will bring more power.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: You know, is Tristan Costs back?
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Is he is he back with the Red Sox again
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: to try to, you know, do crazy stuff in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: outfield with no shoes on and a modon in the
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: middle of the summer when he's hurt.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor's story had a nice bounty this year.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: But if you but if you lose Bragman, that's that's
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: that's thump and leadership and defense. That's why he fits
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: so perfect in Boston.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: He's number one priority.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: He has to be.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But you just can't say we desperately need him back.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: It's just not how the game works, which is fine.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: He can't say that. Fans will probably respect you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that is their top is not gonna say that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: One other name, by the way, pitching wise, that we
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I think forgot to mention who I think could pitch
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: well there, Ranger Suarez. Yeah, he doesn't like media, doesn't
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: give a crap like, he won't even pay attention. He'll
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: just tell everyone now I don't want to talk, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: he'll just pitch well. Seriously, Yeah, one or two though
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: he's not a one, but I think I mean he
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: could be a one.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Sometimes the thing is a crochet.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Do you want another lefty plus lefties in Boston they
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: don't really want because it loads of line up with righties.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think I love.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing for me is they need a bullpen
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: arm for this is for me, bullpen arm Besides Chapman
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: had unbelievable. They need a bullpen army.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Their bullpen's in good shade, and I think they need it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: They need a veteran guy because bullpens goes like this
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: as we all know. Okay, they need a veteran guy.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying a ninth inning guy. I'm saying, the
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: set sixth state inning guy that can clean up some
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: messes for him, and they need some right handed power.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: They gotta find right handed power somewhere in this lineup
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: because they're all lefties. Other than Bregman, they were all
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: but they're a historian. Bregman and the rest are all lefties. Duran,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I bray you casses Myer thet Alonzo. He looked he
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: fit real nice there.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: See.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: I like lefties in Boston. I like lefties who aren't
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: afraid to throw inside. The best lefties have to throw inside.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Max Freed does a great job of throwing inside, even
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: if they stack it with righties. To me, there's some
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: guys that that change up, that change up and heater in.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Some guys do the cutter in really just exploits exploits
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: right handed hitters in Boston because they see that they
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: can pull the ball, and now you're just never going
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: to be able to pull that cutter in, that heater in,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: and then it exposes you for the change up away.
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: So I like lefties in Boston, and the numbers were
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: lefties for lefties around the league this year. I think
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I think both those dudes are going to be very
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: highly coveted.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Ranger and Framber.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: We had a segment that I thought was really good
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: where we talked about the Golden era for left handed
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: pitching right now for a number of reasons that might
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: boost value for guys like Ranger Suarez on the free
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: agent market. And then lastly, he said with story he
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was aware of some of the errors. I'm aware of
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: what some of the defensive metrics indicate. I also think
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that he brought a stabilizing presence to the infield. And
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: my opinion is I think he was honest about wearing
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: down at the end of the year, because.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you see this full season in
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: a while and you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: See this burst where the defense kind of crumples, and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the whole year. I'm gonna put that on
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: body wearing out.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, he said it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: I won't even conjecture he said it. He's like, yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: kind of wearing down a little bit at the end
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: of the season.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get him on soon so we
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: can ask him about it. Story not Bresla, although Craig's invited,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: everyone's invited. We're on every day. Ken Rosenthal's off season
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: notes column, his first of the off season is up
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: on the Athletic Right Now, and also he gets into
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: some of those topics in fair Territory. Two of the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: teams that he touches on Texas Rangers, Minnesota Twins. We
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: did five intriguing teams to watch in the offseason last
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: fair Territory, so he picked up two other teams. He
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: was selling me. He's like, whoever we say for the five,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the other twenty five fan base, they're going to be
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: like hey, And so I made sure to preface it
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: when we started the segment. We're going to talk about
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: every team this offseason at some point on foul and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: on fair. But Ken will also be on with us tomorrow,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: so you can ask him about some of those.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: He also in Las Vegas.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'll wait for somebody to reply. Is he you know
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: he is Crat?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's in the hotel room.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: I just saw. I mean the show today. Didn't you
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: watch the show today? I did twice.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Here's something you can ask him about. So he wrote
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in his notes column that the Rays did some digging
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: before they didn't pick up the option for Fairbanks, and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: they said a few teams are willing to take on
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a salary that high for a reliever this early in
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the off season. The Orioles were the exception. They brought
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: back Andrew Kittridge last Wednesday, knowing that they were going
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to pick up his nine million dollar option. Man tough
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: time seeing that one. I'll take the over on Pete
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Fairbanks getting more than eleven million dollars guarantee, even on
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a one if it ends up being a one year,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Really you think he's less than eleven.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: I just think he's gonna be a multi I just
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: think he's gonna be a multi year deal. I think
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: if it's a one year deal, probably twelve to thirteen.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: If it's a two, two or even who knows, three
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: year deal. I don't know what teams think about his
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: fingers going numb and cold, but.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I think I have the beaf. My beef is.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Ken said the Twins are possibly going for it, possibly
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: still want to win. I'm like, what, Ken's the insider,
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: but he said that, and I was like, what I
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: wanted to comment when you got when we put that
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Good news. You get to talk to Ken twice a week.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I would love to see that.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: So you can ask the Twins are going for it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: They just sold they treated ten guys at the trade
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: deadline last year and said they're not going for it regress.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: So I mean, unless they're gonna go out and sign
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: a bunch of dudes Ken. See, this is a good explanation.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: This is why Ken fair territory.
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: You know you won't you have me as dork of
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: the week, but it should be you sometimes.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I got a little giggle out of this one. The
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: race pr put out that they traded Cameron Meisner to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the Royals in exchange for a player to be named
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: later a cash considerations raised the roof those jokesters over
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: there said chills when the player to be named later
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: is Bobby wit June.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: But I do have a legitimate are the raised? Do
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: they still have to pay Wander Franco? No, he's off
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the books.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I don't. I mean he is on I think the
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: restricted list, whatever it is, the list he's on. He's
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: not getting paid right now. Okay, Now if he suddenly
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: is free from whatever he's deal in jail, is he in.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Jail or he's I think he's on like sentenced to
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: jail time.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real with you. I don't know, stop
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: paying attention because he didn't get.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Sense but he got convicted.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: Right, No, he's still waiting because they're there's more things
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: that came up about him.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. To keep it somewhat simple, I don't think
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: he's coming back to the country.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: No, he can't. They won't let him in the country.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then you're not eligible and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: he won't get paid.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just so because then they could get if
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: they don't have him on the books, they can make
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: that trade for Bobby with Junior.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Right, it's actually a good comp money wise. What a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: ton of money off the books?
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Well, Bobby wit like three hundred some wonders, was like yeah,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: but I'm just saying.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: And Max is out in the two hundreds.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, it makes it much more feasible for this
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: trade to actually happen. It's not happening.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Let's bring up a tweet from Lumerloney, who does Red
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: tax broadcasting former player, been on with us. He's talking
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: specifically about Schoogle, who I could see the red talks
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: trying to acquire. I'll just read it. He said. One
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: thing to keep in mind in terms of Schooble wanting
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to hit free agency. He's going to be a free
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: agent during the lockout. Who knows when it will be resolved.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He would be on He could be on his couch
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: in March or April twenty twenty seven without knowing where
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: to report once camp starts. I'd want an extension through that. Bs.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I actually strongly disagree with almost everything in there. Number one.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: If you remember back to the last lockout, which was
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: not long ago, there was a little spree right before it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Corey Seger signed for a ton of money, sent me
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and signed for a ton of money. Schooble is not
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: your average Joe free agent. If they are motivated to
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: get a deal done, and he's coming off a year
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: in twenty six like he has previously, he'll be fine
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: and he can sign before the lockout. That's my take.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: The point is Trek Scoobl's not sitting there, and neither
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: is Scott boris his rap going? You know what, aj
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: We're we're two hundred and fifty million dollars apart between
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: what we think he should get and what the Tigers think.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Let's give in for the most part, because we're worried
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: about the lockout. Screw that. They don't care about that.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Because then after the lockout there actually might be more
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: money available.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Correct either way, And if he's motivated to get something
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: done before. The way that kind of sweepstakes work is
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: the player the superstar signs when they want to sign
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Boris has done this and others before too, where like
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you start to hear like, hey, SODA's going to make
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: decision this weekend or whatever. Right, if Scooble is motivated
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to get something done before whatever the lockout date is nextary,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I think December first, they'll get it done, that's my take.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Or it might be after the winter meetings. I think
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: they usually do it so that they can get that
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: in there. So maybe it's like December tenth, I don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: know whatever it is, or maybe it's before I don't know.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever it is, he can get it done, do you agree, Crats.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah you can.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I mean you're not talking about every day run of
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: the mill guy, like you're talking about a guy who
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: would single handedly brought his team to the playoffs. So yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: you can get it done in whatever whatever fashion. My
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: guess eight years three ninety he.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Gets wow, look at you putting a number out there already.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I like it, and that would be the largest bridge
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: in contract for a starting pitcher ever