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Manti Te'o on Jay-Z Experience, Surviving Training Camp, and Polynesian Football HOF (ENCORE) · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 1: What's up people, it's your boy, Cam Jay back with
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  Speaker 1: another episode of Off the Edge with Cam Jordan. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as we gear it for another exciting season, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to reflect on some of the incredible guests I had
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  Speaker 1: the pleasure of sitting down with last season. But hey,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry, though, I got you new episodes coming your
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  Speaker 1: way real soon. Relax, I got you. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: in between time, let's rewind and play back some of
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  Speaker 1: my favorite interviews from season one. This week, I'm bringing
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  Speaker 1: you a heart to heart interview I had with the
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame legend man Tito, the Saints' former player, as
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  Speaker 1: he shares with me his journey of overcoming adversity and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately inspiring millions. So sit back and take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: Super excited bro that you're even tapping in. It's my dog,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my but up, my oos my man didn't
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  Speaker 1: walked over to the house and left some food on
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  Speaker 1: while we was playing, you know, back in the gap.
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  Speaker 1: But when I tell you, I'm excited to have you
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast, Bro, like strictly because you know, one
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  Speaker 1: we were teammates, but two because you're you're an honest,
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  Speaker 1: positive force to be reckoned with, Bro, and like you,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you don't get enough flowers as it is,
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  Speaker 1: and you probably do, like I'm not sure. You know
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  Speaker 1: you out Utah. You rolled down your window and it's
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  Speaker 1: probably snowing outside. You know, I'm not meant for the snow.
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  Speaker 1: But ooh, I say, uh manti tal. You know, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: everything that you did in college over at Notre Dame
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  Speaker 1: was spectaclar. You know you played there. You were should
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  Speaker 1: have been in my mind, a Heisman Trophy winner. You
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  Speaker 1: had a Heisman push. You know, I'm saying a runner
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  Speaker 1: up if you will. But the the things that you
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  Speaker 1: did in college were absolutely special.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: You know you look down and you were gonna have
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  Speaker 1: accolades for days. You talk about the Maxwell Award, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Walter Camp Award, you talk about the Lot Award,
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  Speaker 1: the Chuck I can never get the that Linebacker Award,
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  Speaker 1: Merik Award. Bro. Like what in college there was no
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  Speaker 1: no reward untouched that you didn't have. Bro, You're a
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  Speaker 1: unanimous All American. Like I say, you you should in
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  Speaker 1: my mind, you should have been a Heisman Trophy winner.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it just is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: You get drafted in the second round to the San
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  Speaker 1: Diego Chargers. Does that feel weird that you know it's
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  Speaker 1: not San Diego no more? Are you ready? Ye, La Chargers?
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  Speaker 2: I know I always rep San Diego's you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know how it is. You know, even even when
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  Speaker 2: I was playing, you know, with New Orleans, I was
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  Speaker 2: still living in San Diego. I would send you the
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  Speaker 2: pictures of my tacos at oscars, you know. And so you,
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  Speaker 2: you and the family are supposed to come out many
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  Speaker 2: at times. And then we moved and you refuse to
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  Speaker 2: come out here in the cold snow, So we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have to link up in San Diego.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna get out there.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Are you out outside of City Park where you at somewhere?
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  Speaker 2: We're in Lehigh right between Propo and South Lake, And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we gotta take you on the slopes. I know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you got the elite level of athleticism. The
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  Speaker 2: only lineman, know, the only d lineman that I know,
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  Speaker 2: leads the conditioning and the half gasser, so you definitely
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  Speaker 2: could make it down the hills.
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  Speaker 1: I look see that, but I'm not I'm not conditioned
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  Speaker 1: for snow film.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: We played that one game in Cleveland, and it changed
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  Speaker 1: my like it solidified my perspective on nobody should play
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  Speaker 1: in colde games. But it also changed my life in
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  Speaker 1: terms of I was like, I can't be in America anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I left it and we lived in Spain this off season.
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  Speaker 1: Because of that Cleveland game. I said, I was like, Babe,
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  Speaker 1: pack it up, take off, We're taking all four kids,
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  Speaker 1: are your homeschooling, and we're leaving.
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  Speaker 2: See just a little a little cam slight flex right there.
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  Speaker 2: I decided I'm going to go to Spain. Pack your
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  Speaker 2: stuff up. See a lot of us can't make those
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  Speaker 2: type of decisions, bro, you know, so.
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  Speaker 1: You packed up a mood of utah. You were like
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  Speaker 1: this breeze feels too good.
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  Speaker 2: Yo, okay, okay. But my decision was it was because
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  Speaker 2: of living purposes. It was like, I don't have the
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  Speaker 2: cam type of tax brackets, so we got to get
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  Speaker 2: out of these high taxes and go to a lower
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  Speaker 2: I did. I didn't just say let's go to Spain.
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  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we're not there yet.
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  Speaker 1: Freeze like I frolt.
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  Speaker 2: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was negative twenty eight. It was the coldest game
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  Speaker 1: in Saint's history. The second coadest game for Cleveland, and
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  Speaker 1: I said, wait, the fact that it was the second
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  Speaker 1: coadest game for Cleveland, I should not be here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you remember I went to college. Oops. You know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the negative temperatures, you know, it's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Learned close that you chose. You're like, ooh yeah, no, no, no, anyway, bro,
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  Speaker 1: So let's let's just say. You know, you got drafted
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  Speaker 1: to the San Diego Chargers. We just moved past that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, get us to the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: You you come on to the team. What year was it,
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  Speaker 1: twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seventeen, Yeah, there was seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: To twenty nineteen. Bro, you're on the Saints for a
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  Speaker 1: few years. Bro, you come in and you bring automatic
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  Speaker 1: juice like I've never seen. I've never seen somebody come
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  Speaker 1: in and mold so well with the team. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like it was like you just like coming off of
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  Speaker 1: a fresh team whatever that was. You came on to
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  Speaker 1: the team and everybody just fully embraced you, and or
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  Speaker 1: you embraced us. Yeah, and bro, what was that like
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  Speaker 1: the first day, the first day that you came in there,
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  Speaker 1: I said, right next to you, I was like, all right, bro,
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  Speaker 1: me give me the real story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And you know, honestly, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, I brought the juice, but honestly, the team
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  Speaker 2: brought the juice back to me, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So that was what was so beautiful about being in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans. It was it was the locker room. It
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  Speaker 2: was the personal relationships that I had with you, with Craig,
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  Speaker 2: with Alex you know. And then came in the next year.
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  Speaker 1: Detroit right now, Davis is that guy you know, Craig
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  Speaker 1: Robinson used to bring that juice bro, You and him.
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  Speaker 2: Yah, yeah, you know, And so it was, it went,
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  Speaker 2: It went both ways. You know. I'm forever grateful to
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  Speaker 2: all my brothers over there at New Orleans for kind
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  Speaker 2: of helping me to resurrect my career because I played
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  Speaker 2: some I played the best spall that I played in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans. And I had everything to do with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the the pat that I took personally to get back
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  Speaker 2: to where I needed to get to, but the people
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  Speaker 2: that I surrounded myself with the people in that locker
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  Speaker 2: room that helped me to you know, once once you
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  Speaker 2: sat next to me, we had that conversation I remember
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting in my locker. We had that conversation.
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  Speaker 2: It was like all right, it was like, oh, let's
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  Speaker 2: go play ball, you know what I mean. And that's
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  Speaker 2: that's where the first time that I felt that people
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  Speaker 2: saw me as a teammate, you know, and not just
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  Speaker 2: a news clipping, you know what I mean. And my
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  Speaker 2: play was able to raise from there, and man, I
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  Speaker 2: had I had the most fun playing over there in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans, and especially that we got we got to
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  Speaker 2: go back to California during the preseason and we played
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  Speaker 2: you know, we had a joint practice against the Chargers and.
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  Speaker 1: You might as well like hit your hit your Hoker film,
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  Speaker 1: and like I was like, all right, this clearly meant
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  Speaker 1: something to him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think it was a It was a
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  Speaker 2: benefit because then we got out of that humidity, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember man Sean was trying to make he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to make a point, you know, that that year,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just like, I remember thinking to myself,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, so the year that I signed here,
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  Speaker 2: you decided to bring the team back to New Orleans.
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  Speaker 1: We had just done like three off seasons in Northern
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  Speaker 1: Virginia with all those training camps with Northern Vidia where
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  Speaker 1: it was like sixty five and Sonny seventy sunny, and
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  Speaker 1: we had like three years of back to back, back
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  Speaker 1: to back to back losing seasons of seven to nine,
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  Speaker 1: seven and nine, seven and nine, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the older kid down was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: the way you guys want to play. Tom Benson came down,
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  Speaker 1: was like this is the way you got. You'll never
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  Speaker 1: go back to Virginia again. And Sean Payton was like,
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  Speaker 1: you heard what he said, Now let's double down.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like Jesus that you came in. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: He came in and like we went days of straight hitting.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we had to run off the practice field
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  Speaker 1: because were running out of time at practice in that
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  Speaker 1: training camp. So by the time we hit Cali Bro
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  Speaker 1: for that joint practice, everybody was like, how this it?
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  Speaker 1: This all you guys? Do you only have thirty plays?
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  Speaker 2: Come on? No? I remember I remember who was it.
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  Speaker 2: He came off the edge and just thumped the running
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  Speaker 2: back and I remember thinking like Mark and I know
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  Speaker 2: it was Marcus remember, and there was like a whole
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  Speaker 2: little ruckus that broke out, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They were upset, like Marcus that comes off hills this
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  Speaker 1: running back and George's are like, this is not how we.
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  Speaker 2: Practice like this how we practiced. So no idea, but
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  Speaker 2: it was that I have that level of confidence that
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  Speaker 2: because of what we went through, like you stand no chance,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And that's what I felt like.
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  Speaker 2: It helped us to get into that mentality of man, like,
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  Speaker 2: there's no way that you guys went through what we
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  Speaker 2: went through, Like having thirty forty plus people. I remember
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  Speaker 2: after practice, like forty of us in there with Ivy's
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  Speaker 2: just it looked like a scene from a movie.
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  Speaker 1: And I walked by everybody like I'm you know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't cramp up, bro, So I just walked everybody. I'm like, weakness, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I was like, look at you, you and
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  Speaker 1: your ivs.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: You're like you're you're taking two bags? My guy? What
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  Speaker 1: was that was the name? Devaux whatever? Devro's got like
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  Speaker 1: three bags in bro. There's there's guys hurting everywhere. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, weakness, can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: It went from it went from a fashion statement, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like everybody coming in with advisors on. By day two,
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  Speaker 2: the advisors are.
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  Speaker 1: Off sleeves everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: It's just trying to survive. You know, you took out
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  Speaker 2: two pairs of cleats, three pairs of socks, like at
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  Speaker 2: the at the second like special teams period, everybody was
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  Speaker 2: switching out their socks, switching out their cleats, like switching
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  Speaker 2: out gloves. You know, it was to switch out those fleets. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like a training a training camp in New Orleans when
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  Speaker 1: it's it's like ninety eight degrees one hundred percent humidity,
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  Speaker 1: You're you're practicing for two and a half hours, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: an hour in your shoes like you're stepping in it
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  Speaker 1: feels like you gotta puddle your shoes. You bring two
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  Speaker 1: or three pairs of codes to practice, just so like conditioningwise,
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  Speaker 1: you're not moving under water. But Bro, that's crazy. But
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  Speaker 1: I really want to start off with, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations on you know, all your success, bro, starting with
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame of course, Polynesian Hall of Fame. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like even even your high school, isn't the force
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  Speaker 1: Buckner from your high school too out in Hawaii? Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I'm not even going to attempt
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  Speaker 1: to say your high school prep school. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: you got it in there in there, Bro, But like,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to how does it feel, Bro, to
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  Speaker 1: to know that you become an all time great at
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame?
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  Speaker 2: Bro?
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  Speaker 1: Like everything that you did, Bro. You know, you throw
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  Speaker 1: the stats out there and there's a reason why, you know,
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  Speaker 1: four years, four hundred and thirty seven tackles, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ranked third all time and in the in history there, Like,
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  Speaker 1: how does it feel to know you put such a
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  Speaker 1: phenomenal college crew together to even have a chance to
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  Speaker 1: go to the league, Like that's always been a dream
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  Speaker 1: of mine.
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  Speaker 2: So for you, well, I think it goes back to
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  Speaker 2: the saying, like you always want to leave the place
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  Speaker 2: better than when you found it, you know, And for
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  Speaker 2: me to be able to do that in my way
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  Speaker 2: and the fashion that I did it. Obviously, Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: is one of the most stored football programs in the country,
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  Speaker 2: and I just literally went in there to you know,
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  Speaker 2: continue the dominance that my father Thomas, since I was little,
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  Speaker 2: to you know, really stick to my routines and you know,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully the result would be what I wanted it to be.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the result was always success just based off
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  Speaker 2: of the work ethic. And so for me to do
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  Speaker 2: that and to have an impact on people off of
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  Speaker 2: the field was exactly what I would want my career
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  Speaker 2: to be like while I was at Notre Dame, and
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  Speaker 2: it's a special place. And it's nice now because we
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  Speaker 2: literally just got back from South Bend this past weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I took my wife and my babies out there. And
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  Speaker 2: you know what's nice is my wife didn't know the
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame me. You know, she knew the NFL ME
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  Speaker 2: and you know, unfortunately the NFL ME didn't it didn't
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  Speaker 2: reach the heights of the Notre Dame ME. And so
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  Speaker 2: when we go back to South Bend, she gets to
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  Speaker 2: see like the plaques, the murals that all of the
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  Speaker 2: trophies and.
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  Speaker 1: College there's not many people reached that level of success,
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  Speaker 1: not like there's there's only a few cats, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like not too many of you. You heard what I said,
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  Speaker 1: third and third in all times the tackles.
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  Speaker 2: Now, like yeah, yeah, it was, it was it was
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  Speaker 2: up there. It was like that that was what we
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  Speaker 2: like to as a summit. You know what I mean
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  Speaker 2: when people when people talk about reaching the summit, like
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  Speaker 2: in my life for that time, like that was the
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  Speaker 2: summit of college football. You know what I was able
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  Speaker 2: to achieve and attain on a personal level and on
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  Speaker 2: a team level, you know, to to make it to
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  Speaker 2: the national championship. You know. Obviously we got whooped up
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  Speaker 2: on by by Alabama, you know, and you know, I had,
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  Speaker 2: I had, I had. I had a bad taste of
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: Alabama for a long time. And then I met Duce
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  Speaker 2: Stews and and you know, just to know Mark and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like jeez, and then you know, too went there
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  Speaker 2: and so it was one of those things, honestly to
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  Speaker 2: have my family experience it with me, to people to
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  Speaker 2: know my name, my last name, and to recognize my
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  Speaker 2: family in public, Like that's for a kid growing up
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  Speaker 2: in a small town in Hawi. That was everything that
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  Speaker 2: I wanted it to be, to have that type of impact.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still don't understand this whole. Like I was,
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Hawaii, and then I lived in San Diego
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  Speaker 1: and then I moved to Utah. I'm like, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about this forever, like nothing but nothing but breeze
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  Speaker 1: and views of ocean, and like now you're.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, when the milk goes from
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  Speaker 2: twenty dollars a gallon in hoy and you come over there,
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  Speaker 2: and as five dollars, You're like, yeah, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: the temperature I could deal with, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: My duck is a stretch. It a lot farther.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, bro.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about the Polynesian Hall of Fame, bro,
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  Speaker 1: because like now there's there's you're part of the living legends.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's in there now. Palmalu would probably be the
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  Speaker 1: first name to come to my mind, and now.
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  Speaker 2: The second name is gonna be Man Thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm just saying, like when you're when
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  Speaker 1: you're when you're in that same breath Polynesia Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm a joke, but like, well the
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  Speaker 1: Rocks in there too. But but in terms of football,
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  Speaker 1: Troy Palus, you him, you know you're probably up next
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  Speaker 1: is probably Marcus Mariota, like you know, the four probably
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be Eavy Company.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, DFO is definitely going to be in there, Tour
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  Speaker 2: is definitely gonna be in there. Tlana is definitely gonna
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  Speaker 2: be in there. You know, obviously there's still careers are
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  Speaker 2: still going but to be in the Polynesian Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 2: it's a big deal because now life comes full circle.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Like when I was a little kid, Troy
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  Speaker 2: was my example of oh, I could do it, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like to see Troy play at
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  Speaker 2: play at USC and for him to be drafted to
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  Speaker 2: the Stealers and watch his career you know, go as
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  Speaker 2: it went and you know, hall of Famer, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame. For me growing up as
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  Speaker 2: a little kid, and I look up to those type
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  Speaker 2: of individuals, you know what I mean, like, man, if
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  Speaker 2: Troy can do it, I can do it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a way to do it because he's he's kind
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  Speaker 2: of blazed that path. For me now to be in
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  Speaker 2: that position and understanding that, you know, there's there's kids
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  Speaker 2: back at home, there's kids around the world that's looking
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: up to me and say, hey, man, Ti, I did it.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: I could do it. And I think, you know, for
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: for like to come full circle that way just goes
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to show that all the hard work and the sacrifices
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: that myself and my family you know, put in, you know,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: it all paid off. And hopefully, you know, we'll be
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: able to push the script with allowing younger the younger
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: generations to say, hey, we can do what he did
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and more. You know what I mean, Let's let's take
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: it higher, let's take it further, and then hopefully the
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: next generation comes around and pushes that even further. And
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what that Polynesian Hall of Fame means
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: for me. It's it's it's a it's a celebration that
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: all the hard work was was was worth it. But
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: at the same time, it's just another flag up there
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: to tell those kids that's behind me, to say, hey, bro,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: like you could do the same thing, they'll take it further,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Big legacy. Yeah, it's legacy.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, And that's what it's all about,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: you know. So you know we all can relate, you
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: know with that is like when we die, like obviously,
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the only thing that stays here is our names and
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: the stories that people tell about us, and you know,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: their interactions with us, you know what I mean. And
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: so I always wanted those interactions and those stories to
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: be positive, you know, to be like, man, my life's
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: better because I met mantime, my life's better because I
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: met Camp and I and you know, you know how
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I feel about you. You know, you know that the
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: impact that you've had on me and my family, and
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: you know, when a document documentary came out, like it
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: was one of the first that I text, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: just say hey, it's like I wouldn't be where I'm
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: at if it wasn't for you personally, you know, like
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: taking all of us to the jay Z concert, Like
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: you have no idea. So I like, how much that
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: concert changed my life, Like where I was at that time,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: and you invited me just being around the fellas, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: was like, okay, cool, like getting to know my teammates.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: But then the spiritual journey that that concert had on
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: me because obviously jay Z was going through his stuff
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: with Beyonce, and you know, he had a lot of
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: people like saying this about him. And I remember he
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: started off the whole thing with his dialogue and the
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: narrative and he went through to kill jay Z stuff
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and I remember like just thinking about it and listening
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to him, and I'm like, man, those are some of
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: the things that go on in my head, you know
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: what I mean. And then when he ended it with saying,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: you can't heal what you don't reveal, like bro, that
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: was just it was mind blowing to me. And I'm
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: like bro, Like, that's what I got to do. And
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: so from that moment on, it was like my whole
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: life kind of took a one eighty of Man, I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: looking about I'm looking at this the whole the wrong way,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And it had everything to
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: do with that concert. And then you look at how
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I played ball that year and look at you know,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and everybody would come to me, it's like, man, that's
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: a Notre dame man titness playing. I was like, well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: in order for me to get here there there are
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: events that needed to take place, you know what I mean,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in order for me to get to display this this
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: the space mentally and emotionally, and that concert that you
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: took me to had it was a big, big part
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: of that healing. And so like again, it was like,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I never forget the people that was there for me,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: and you was obviously one of those one of those people,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and that's why I had to I had to pay
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: my respects to you. And you was the you know, like,
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: like I said, one of the few people that I text.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Bro. You you hit me and
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know the impact, you know, Like I'm like, yeah, bro, Like,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you know, like if I'm in if I'm in a
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Switeen D line and the suite A, you know, the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: defense is always welcome. We even open it to the
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: office sometimes, you know, Like I'm all about that defense
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: camaraderiecause I think that makes the team better when you
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: know what your brothers are going through, you know, like
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: we bleed together. Why would I not you know, why
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: would I want not want to know more about you
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: as a person. You know. So it's always it's always
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: that idea of building family, But just that how did
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you even navigate? Like, bro, Like why do those words
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: hit you so hard that when you when you when
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: that documentary came out earlier this year, Like how did
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: you navigate that emotional aspect of sort of having to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: relive through everything? Right?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, you know it goes back to that
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: saying that jay Z said, you can't heal what you
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: don't reveal, you know, and there's a lot of healing
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that occurs when you can verbalize things, you know what
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I mean. I didn't realize how heavily I was I was.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I was holding everything in and you can't heal it
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: when the poison is inside of you. You know, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: have to bring that poison out. And the amount of
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: healing that I did all the way up to that
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: point was enough for me to be comfortable in certain
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: certain circles. You know. There there was a time where
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I wasn't comfortable in public. Like I literally would just
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: go to work, do what I had to do, come
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: home and just be a hermit. Like I didn't want
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: to be around anybody.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I just must have because like is looseid I know
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans, big people person, big heart.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Person, you know what I'm saying, Like, but but what
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: you need.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm here for you. I got you some food at
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: your front door. I knocked on your door, like.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You And that's that's the that's the evolution of it all,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like that was who I
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: am at my core. I'm a guy who I love people,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I love, you know, having great experiences with my friends,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: creating memories with my friends. You know that the hermit,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: that's not me, you know. But in order for me
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: to get from the hermit to the guy who was
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: just you know, love was excitement, was just enjoying the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: process and being grateful for the day. Like there was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: a transition, and and and and a journey that that
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I had to go on, and a lot of it
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: had to be done by myself, but there are key
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: moments where I needed somebody to be there with me,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so like you're one
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: of those guys, Craig is one of those guys. Alex
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: is one of those guys that I really leaned heavily on.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And you said something that that that was so real.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You said, you, I want to know I had all
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of these experiences, You would have all of these experiences
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: with the team, the defense to to know what they're
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: going through, right. I think what took it a step
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: further was you don't even you didn't even know the
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: impact that you were making. You didn't even know what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: your teammates are going through. But because you had them around,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: you were doing healing form that you didn't even know
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you were doing. You know what I mean. That's the
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: quality of a great leader, you know what I mean,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Just somebody that understands that what happens on the football
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: field is just a result of all the things that
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: we've done together at dinners, you know what I mean,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: all the things that we've done on the on the
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: practice field. Man, you guys would play. You would play
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Smash Bros. Like for hours. Bro, Like I remember, like
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: your nigga gonna call and I'm your neighbor, So yeah,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: you gotta go out there.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Can't go home before you broke with the boys, Like
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: after I need I need that.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's gonna see my truck in the driveway and
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: she'd be like cavade home yet like something he he
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: still plays Smash Bros. Yeah, So it was. It was.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It was a special transition. It was a special journey,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and it was a journey that you know, made me
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: into who I am moves to to really appreciate genuine relationships,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: appreciate good people and bro. Like again, our locker room
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: was special, bro, you know and that's what I always
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: tell people, Like the locker room in New Orleans is
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: what made the success of our team, you know, like
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: how close we were and so and now I always
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: watch my boys, always watch the guys on Sundays, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like, they gotta have fun again, you know what
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, You have fun, celebrate you know what I mean,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: just bring that energy. Got so we was like we
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: were like I don't care what nobody says we was
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the one who started that turnof for sure, I.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Think I think that's just that's that's already known, like
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the same started that. I don't know, but like that
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: happened from from us. Yeah, but you know, Craig Robertson,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: we out there with the big bucket of flowers, Like yeah, flowers,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We get an interception and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: like running in and everybody rallied behind it, and that
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: for sure is the same thing. Like they still do
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it as long as it's to a close end zone.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I'm with the jog, Like if you're the thirty and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we go to the you know, we go to the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: end zone. Beat if we had the thirty and you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: turn around and you jogged seventy no no no, no, no, no,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: no no no. I see what sideline?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You know what? That reminds me of Remember when we
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: had that goal line stand against Atlanta and I recovered
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that fumble. I remember we're on the goal line twenty seventeen.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: That happened, that's twenty seventeen. That was a second. That
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: was the second Atlanta game. Remember I picked the ball
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: off and I started to run. I ran to the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: opposite side of the field. Remember as I'm running, I
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: remember watching the clip and your face was like, ooh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: so would love I'm with your dog. But right later, yeah, yeah,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: that probably was a bad, bad decision for me to
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: run to the opposite.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: You want to go, you want to go ninety seven yards?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: We're still the conditioning testing now. Yeah, this thing.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You talked about emotional intelligence, you talk about just the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: quality of of knowing who you are.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: You found that over the years, But like, how did
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: how did that come about? Or what is it now
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that you have a unique perspective on what it is
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to be because you've lived at the highest peak of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: what the athlete is when everybody's looking up at you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: You're still balling everything about it too. You've had setbacks whatever,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: you know, the whole the whole cat fit situation to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: coming back and we're getting drafted second round two playing
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: your type of your brand of football here with it
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: or here previously with the with the normans saying like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: what did that all take it to you? And how
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: do you look at the status of mental health now?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Well, mental health to me, right is when you're mentally healthy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: It's I like to think that there's not a lot
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of voices in your head. You know, those that are
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that are mentally unhealthy, it's because they have so many
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: voices in their head. They're kind of they kind of
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: get lost, they get lost in the source of like
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: man like whether it's they're they're they're at a certain peak,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: right and they think that there's something that they're not
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: or they're at a valley and there's so many critics
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: in their head that they can't just they can't seem
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: to shake it. And so I've been at both right
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: right now. The journey has allowed me to identify all
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: of those voices, identify the sources of those voices, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: get them out right. But now that the only voice
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: that I hear is mine, and when my.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Voice is like social media, your girl, your family, you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: know what. Oh I got to take care of my parents. Oh,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: like I need to be I need to be this
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: nicole of a player for me to be accepted. Yeah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's all types of pressures that are
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: equal voices in the head. You said, you said voice.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: It made me think about the first time we ever
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: had a conversation. I was like, all right, before you
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: before you be a mic and call these plays girlfriend
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: imagination or was she like that? That's they So, yeah,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the voices are surrounding you.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well they're they're pressures and and they're also they're
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the critics, and they're also the fans, you know what
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, because when you're living extreme, Yeah, whether they're
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: dragging you or whether you have just like ten sacks
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: one game and they're like telling you the greatest thing ever. Yeah,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: like both both extremes are dangerous, you know what I mean,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: especially if it's not the beliefs that you have in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: your head, like the fact that I know who I
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: am to a point where there's nothing that the praise
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: or the criticism can sway me.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yea.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: That is why I mean, like men mental health and
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you being so sure of what your identity is, who
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you are as a person, that you're not swayed either way.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Like that's you know where I feel I got to
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: that I that I know who I am. There's nothing
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: that you could tell me that's going to sway that.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: Because I was swayed a lot, and when I kept swaying, swinging,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: eventually I felt face flat, you know, and so I
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: had to literally pick myself back up and figure out,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you know, from score one, and build myself up from
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: score one from Brooke one. And again I had to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: do a lot of it by myself, but there were
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: people that helped me to to to to to build that,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: you know, whether it be my family and my parents,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: my siblings, my friends like yourself, my wife, you know,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: my kids now you know. So it's a journey that
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: everybody must take. It's a journey that you know, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: hope that it doesn't take people as long as it
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: took me. But the journey is is what you know
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: creates and it modes, and you know, you'll be happy
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: with the final product. And I'm definitely happy with with
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: you know, who I came up to be as a man.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: You know. So for anybody that's going through mental health issues,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: in order for you to be the best version of yourself,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: you need to be internally the best version of you
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: because what happens outside is just a reflection of what's
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: going on inside, you know. And so that's that's kind
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: of my piece on that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. But you never know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: you never know, Like even talking about it, bro who
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you're affecting or you know, it feels like it's a
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: sermon at times, bro, Like that's just a message somebody
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: may need to hear, you know, in this in this
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: day and age, well, you know, we're starting to under
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: understand this EQ or this even like I call twenty
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: like I call twenty twenty im like the error to
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: be soft, right, and and I sort of chuckle about it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: But it's literally like, you know, everybody's worried about other
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: people's opinions. Everybody's worried about everybody's you know, how I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: affecting the next person over? Or how are they affecting me?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Or social media does this and all in all these
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: other circumstances, it's like, bro, know who you are and
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: stand on it, you know, like like live live your truth,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: live your life, and you know, be blessed. Like there's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: so many ways it can go. Life can always be
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: worse and life can always be better. You know. It's
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: just like watching you after a game football film, you'd
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: be like, Bro, I played terrible game. Film is not
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: going to be as good as you think it is,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: and you're not going to be as bad as you
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: think it is. Those games you're like, oh I killed them.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: I half four sacks that couldn't touch me, and you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: walk on like, dang I got locked up like three
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: or four times, bro, like that or are you close?
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: It could have been a seven sack game and all
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I left was with three or four you know.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Like that's a great analogy. That is actually a great
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: analogy of of of how life is right, you know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: And like I never thought of that analogy, but now
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that you put it that way, that's actually the perfect
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: analogy for it. It's never as bad as you think
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: it is, and it's never as great as you think
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it is, you know. So like again, to stay grounded
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: in it all, to be grateful for it all, because
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, like like life happens
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: for you, doesn't happen to you, you know, And so
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you have the ability and the power to make life
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: what you need to make it. You know, you could
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: make it great. You could also make it a living hell,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So you have that power
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like people who let things happen to them and say, oh, man,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: like I'm the victim, and I was like, no, bro,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you're the only You're only the victim of your decisions,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: you know, because no matter what you do to me,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I still have the ability to filter it and perceive
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: it the way that I need to perceive it in
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: order for me to progress. Like I'm never gonna let
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: anybody do anything to me, say anything to me that's
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: going to cripple me, and you know, you know, stunt
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: my growth as a person. And the reason why I
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: know that is because I used to let that do it,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: do it, do it to me, you know what I mean?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: And so that's what you know for me? Mental health,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's it's something that's important. I think
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: some people look at it as uh as a reason
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to do the things they do. No, that's not what
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: mental health is, you know what I mean. Mental health
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: is you understanding who you are, the best version of yourself,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the best form of yourself, and you're doing all that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: you can to get there. You know. It's not an
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: excuse to do stupid things, you know what I mean.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: That's not what it is, you know what I mean.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Like I don't like when people say, oh no, no, no, bro,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: that's not what this is. It's understanding where I'm at
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: and where I need to get to and the things
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that I need to do in order to get there,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: you know. And so that's that's what I that I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: think mental health is. It's it's it's for me to
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: be the best version of me to do the most good.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: You know what, what can I what version of me
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: brings out the most good? What what what version of
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: me brings out the most production? That's that's what I
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: need to do. That's that's the person to bless me?
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: How can I be a blessing to others?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Brother, I'm still breathing, I'm still standing. Bright you I said,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you're a fan of man. Now that you know, I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: can't say like football is over because I don't think
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: football ever leaves the blood. Now, you've got a legacy
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: if you're own.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: But like I said, Mary, my dog got two kids. Now,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Jit with the at the end,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, what was it not? Because
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: there's no off season now? You know, like me, off season,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I'm flitting. I'm like, man, what else can I do?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: What's what's next for you?
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Bro? Like you?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Now, now you don't drop the documentary, you probably got
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: to executive produce your credit out of there, you ep things? Now,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: what what what else is it in Utah for you?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: You know? What's what was amazing was when when you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: every parent will we'll understand this, when my kids came
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: into my life, especially with my son, when my daughter came,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: like I went to the dad phase that dad bought
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: to gain a whole bunch of weight. And you know
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that the baby girl, Yeah, my daughter's fault, bro.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Like you know, my princess softened me up, you know.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But then when my son came and with both of them,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: immediately life took a turn from you. I immediately wanted
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: everything great in this world for my kids. I wanted
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: everything that was great in this world I wanted for them.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: But the person that the first thing that needed to
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: happen was I needed to be great. You know. I
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: needed to be the greatest version of me because my
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: kids aren't going to remember what I tell them, but
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: they're going to remember what they saw me do. They're
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: going to remember how they saw Daddy work, how he
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: saw how they saw me walk through this life. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: so it was I was two ninety five, Yeah, Jenny,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: first that day teat that for I was yes, Yeah.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So my wife decided. She told me, she was like, hey,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: when I'm done giving birth to this boy, I wanted
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: to do a fitness show. I said, okay, cool, she
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: did fitness shows before, so I was like, all right,
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: what a perfect what a perfect opportunity for me to
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: get back to shape. So she and I went on
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: this fitness journey and my goal was to get back
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: down to my plane with two thirty seven. I hit that,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: and so it was all way of getting back to
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: the best version of me. Now. Throughout that process, doing
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of public speaking. Since the documentar came out,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I met with a lot of a lot of successful
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: people and they just happened to be in the private
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: equity world, and they're telling me like, why aren't you
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: doing what we're doing. He's like, there's no reason why
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: you shouldn't be doing what you know we're doing. You know,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you have the network, you have the abilities. You just
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: need to make those decisions for yourself. And I'm sitting
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: over here in Utah and I'm like, Okay, Like we're
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: living a comfortable life, but we're not living the off
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: season go to Spain life, like Cam, you know what,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I mean like I want to. I want to. I
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: want to give that to my kids, you know what
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I mean. I know Tony is out here in Utah
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and I watch him how he moves and it inspires me.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, he's on a private jet everywhere, you know.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just came back from the F the
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: F one race over there and in Vegas. You know,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I want to do that. You know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: how can I do that? Well? I started, I started
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to contact a lot of people, talk to a lot
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: of people, and you know, so we're in the process
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: of getting into the private equity work world. And that's
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: that's where I know that I can do everything that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I want to do. One, I can be present in
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: my in my kid's life the way that I want to. Two,
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: I can be the example to them of what I
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: want life to be for them. And three I can
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: build generational wealth. I can I can introduce my children
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: and my children's children to a thinking and a mentality
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and an approach to life that it's gonna get them
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: to a place you know where Okay, daddy got the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: private jet. Now what you're gonna do? You know what
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I mean? So that's different. You know what I'm saying.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But that's the envelope that I'm trying to push, you
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. Why not? Like why not? You
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, it's all up to me,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So it's up to me.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Then you know I'm gonna take it as far as
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I can take it. And then, son, I taught you
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: everything that I could learn and everything that I've done.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Now you got to take it, you know.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: What I mean. I can get you so far. Bro,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I took I took the Family of Spain, and Tank
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, we could do that again. No, no, no, baby,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: I took you to Spain for a reason. We lived
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: out there this all season because one I want to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: introduce you to a different world. Two I wanted I
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: want you to be inspired to learn Spanish, and three
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I want you to understand when you talk to your friends,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: not everybody gets to live in Spain for two and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: a half three months, you know, Like when you like,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: it takes it takes a certain way of working, take
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: a certain lifestyle to get to where you are. So
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you can't just be like, oh, I'm just gonna live
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: off my dad. No, baby, Like when why spout turn off.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what my daddy told me. Hey,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. I don't know how you're gonna live,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: but I'm always gonna live, like yes, and that's that's
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: me shout out to pops like Steve Steve Jordan. I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: was like, I remember, bro I used to, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: have a TJ Max budget. I had a checking book
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that I had to and I was like, I'm living
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in a big house, you know, five six fifty three
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: fifty four hundred square feet, which is huge to me.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to all my friends places and
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: they're sitting on you know, a thousand square feed or
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: twelve hundred square feet, tw twenty two hundredquare feet. I
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I got a big house, you know what
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And they're in Jay's and they're in you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: Koogie back in the Gap and they rocking, you know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Louis Batan felt, hey, like I'm over here. I came
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: to my dad at like twelve, thirteen years old, once
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I understood what materials things were, and I was like, man,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: are we broke? I was like, Dad, you play leave
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for thirteen years? And he looked at me and was like, nah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: I'm doing really good.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Actually.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm an engineer. You know, I got
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: my degree from Brown. I'm still an engineer. I played
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the lead for thirteen years, like I'm doing really well. Actually,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: but you son, you're broke. And I was like, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: that stuck with me.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Bro But that's but that's the power of parenting, though,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: you understand, because Dad could have took taken a totally
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: different way. He could have had you dressed to the
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: nicest things and enabled you. You know. And that's one
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: thing that I told my wife is I'll never do
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: is I'm never going to enable my kids like I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: going to do with what you just said, Cam. I'm
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: going to take them around the world. I'm going to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: give them those experiences. I'm going to open up their
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: eyes to see, like, hey, man, like your dreams. I'm
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: going to show you what your dream looks like. I'm
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: not just gonna tell you write it on a paper. No,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you want to do this, cool, I'm going to take
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you over there so that you can be in the buildings,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you could see the environments, you could talk to the people,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: you could smell, you could taste you could feel, you know,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: because then it becomes a reality for you. Now it
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: becomes a goal. Now you know what it looks like.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Now you could picture yourself in those places, you know.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: And I made a post a few months ago when
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: we was in in Vegas. We stayed at the Palms
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: at one of their huge suites, Bro that just overlooks everything,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: and it was it was a humbling experience for me
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: because I remember my dad and my mom worked their
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: butts off. You know, we was one of those kids.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: We grew up in the three bed, one bath house,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: no A c you know what I mean. So when
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: dad would take us to the inn at at you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: in our hometown, or we would be able to go
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: to one of the hotels in Waikiki, like, it was
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a it was a huge solution for us, you know, like, oh,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: smokes like we're here, well now a few months ago,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: we're over there at in this executive suite, bro. Like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: it was just stupid, bro like the amenities, you know
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: what I mean. We had a butler bro that bringing
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: us food. Like, and there was a picture that I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: posted as my baby girl and she's looking out right
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: and I literally sat there, Bro just grateful. I was like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: and I made a post that saying, you know, grand Grandpa,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Grandpa got us to the hotel, Daddy got us to
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the to the penthouse. Right now, what you're gonna do?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean to take me to the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: private jet? Come on, now, take that to the next level.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what it's all about. For me. It
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: was like, you ask me, what's next, Well, what's next
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: is the top? Okay, now we get to this summit
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: of this mountain. Well, there's always another mountain to climb.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Let's get to the top of that one. There's always
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you know, and it never stops. It never stops. And
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I don't ever want it to stop from my kids,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and and I'm always going to learn from you. I'm
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: always gonna learn from your dad. You know, your dad's
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: one of the best humans I ever met. Man. Every
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: time he saw me, he always said what's up, always
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: asked how I was doing. And you never if you
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: ever ran into your dad, you never knew that he
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: played in the league as long as I had had
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: that success. You'll never know because he's just so down
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to earth. And you meet you, You're like, oh makes sense,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: you know it makes sense because you was raised by
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that guy, you know what I mean? Like your you
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: run into The only way you would know that your
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: professional athlete is because you look like one. If you
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: talk to can't.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: You can't hide these shoulders fail. I'm not even in
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: the camp camp frame now.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, either either know that or you know that camera
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: professional athlete because his big selfie coming out of the
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: small some small car sometimes, remember he was rolling the
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: suv sometimes and he was parking the parking lot you're
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: supposed to not park at. You know, I was the
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: only camp can park over there, you know what I mean?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: But you know you never know, right, And that's what
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I feel is the best thing that somebody could tell you, Like,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: is my interactions with you was on a human level
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: one of the best interactions that I could ever have.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: And they had nothing to do with your social status,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so all of those
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: people that I've met that's in this private equity world
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: that's pro billions, Like when I'm met a dude who
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: he runs a two hundred billion dollar firm, bro like
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: with a bee can walking in with Louis Bouton everything,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: like I thought I was stunning with some Travis, some Trevors.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Scott's like, I was like a boy came in some
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Louise left in a Lambeo truck. But like the conversations, bro,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: human and human right, and he's just like, how can
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: I help you? How can well, man, Clay, I want
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: to do that, you know, I want to get to
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: that level so I can turn back around and say, hey, bro,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: how can I help you? You know, how can I
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: get you here? You know what I mean? Because that's
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: that's what I want to see everybody win, bro, And
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: that's what you know, there's people that helped me to win.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I want to see everybody win. So yeah,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that's that's what's next. That's what we're working on. That's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: what's current. You know. That's that's the current events for
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: the Tetle family right now. Future events. Hopefully my son
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: goes to Notre Dame. You know, he already got a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: verbal offer this weekend, so he's ten months old, can't
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: you tens old? Coach Coach Freeman came over, He's like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: you have an offer. I was like, all right, coach,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna make make sure he read now he ain't
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: gonna play linebacker. You gonna play quarterback because autumn autumn
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: rules and football right now, protecting that boy like you
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: can't land on You can't hit him above the shoulder.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: You can hit them below the knees, and.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Once he releases, you better not touch them.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: You better not touch them, said Sons, You're gonna play quarterback.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you tapping in, Bro, I'm gonna get you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: out of here. I try and keep it around thirty five,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but I love having great people on here. Bro. It's
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: been nothing but a pleasure keeping you on off the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: edge with me. Bro, it's my ted tell you know
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying always, Bro, I appreciate you for everything
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that you are.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tap in shortly. I love you brother always.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: So there you have it. It's a round. I just
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: want to say a huge thank you to all my
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: awesome listeners for rocking with me. I've got a whole
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: locker room full of my favorite interviews from season one
• 42:51
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• 42:54
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• 43:08
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