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ENGLISH MCMUFFIN PEDO CASE · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a game statue. It takes a little tangle.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to mess with me. Mess with me, baby,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a gangsta touch Baby, You're a game statue. For
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  Speaker 1: good warning, this podcast is designed to take you outside
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  Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and make you question reality.
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  Speaker 2: Listener discretion is a vibe.
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  Speaker 1: Tukwardly fellas, this ain't my first time at the rodeo.
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  Speaker 3: H h, Hello and welcome back to that show. Thanks
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  Speaker 3: for being here, things for being born, Thank you for
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  Speaker 3: being listeners and supporters of the Cosmic Beach Podcast. Back
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  Speaker 3: to business as usual today, no more motown, but like
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  Speaker 3: I said, not holding my breath on that. I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: there will be a part four in the future. Today
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna hit it hard and heavy with a little
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  Speaker 3: pedophilia case one you may be familiar with. But before
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  Speaker 3: we jump right into it, I have plans to go
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  Speaker 3: visit my family in Ohio for Christmas this year, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them, most of them haven't met my boy yet,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm really excited about that. I've been dreading it
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  Speaker 3: kind of because I have never traveled with a small
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  Speaker 3: Tasmanian devil before, so it should make for an interesting trip.
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  Speaker 3: I always look forward to going back home just to
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  Speaker 3: eat at all my favorite restaurants that I grew up cherishing.
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  Speaker 3: And I got a text from my cousin Brittany, and
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  Speaker 3: she said, Oh, by the way, they've closed this one.
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  Speaker 3: And they've closed this one. Oh, by the way, they've
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  Speaker 3: closed this one. It's like the place I grew up
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  Speaker 3: in Ohio, on the outside of Cleveland. It's like a
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  Speaker 3: ghost town. Now my childhood is slowly vanishing. It's like evaporating.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of these places you drive by and there abandoned, there,
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  Speaker 3: all in ruins, and it just makes my stomach sick.
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  Speaker 3: An entire childhood erased. I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 3: have ever been through some like that's something beloved to
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  Speaker 3: you as a child, and you can just taste it,
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  Speaker 3: you know. Every year I go visit my family, and
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  Speaker 3: I look forward to eating at these places, and all
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  Speaker 3: the way there, I'm just thinking in my head, how
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to eat at these places, and I can't
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  Speaker 3: wait to get there, and then they're gone out of business.
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  Speaker 3: Family restaurants that I'll never ever savor again.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 3: I did live in Kentucky for about ten years as
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  Speaker 3: well as a child, and there was this drive in
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  Speaker 3: movie theater. It was a double drive in that had
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  Speaker 3: two screens and four different movie options that had a
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  Speaker 3: huge concession stand. We went every weekend in the summer
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  Speaker 3: growing up. Out of business. It's closed. There's almost no
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  Speaker 3: trace of my childhood ever existing. If you went based
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  Speaker 3: off of these places that I went to as a kid,
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  Speaker 3: they're all gone, obliterated. I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 3: have ever lived through this, but it makes me feel old,
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  Speaker 3: and it makes me feel sick to my stomach, to
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  Speaker 3: be honest with you, it's very, very sad. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted my son to go to these places. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to live vicariously through him or anything. Shit
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  Speaker 3: weird shit like that. But there's just something about having
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  Speaker 3: memories of these places as a child, magical memories that
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  Speaker 3: you want to recreate for your own child, and you
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  Speaker 3: can't because they don't fucking exist anymore. Yeah, it's really weird.
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  Speaker 3: But let me catch up on some shout outs. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't want to do too many shout outs during the
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  Speaker 3: Motown series. I just wanted it to be focused on
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  Speaker 3: this subject matter. But I have a lot of shout
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  Speaker 3: outs here. Let's see I have one shout out from Angel.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit older. She said, what you said
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  Speaker 3: about IVF is what I'm going through. I have heard
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  Speaker 3: too many horror stories and spiritually, the doctor doing the
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  Speaker 3: insemination is part of your child's conception. What if this
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  Speaker 3: doctor is a satanic sorcerer and secretly wants to implant
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  Speaker 3: me with the devil's seed. I'm sure it has happened before.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely it's happened before. I watched a Netflix documentary where
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  Speaker 3: this sadistic guy was inseminating all these women. They were
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  Speaker 3: supposed to be getting inseminated with their husband's baby juice,
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  Speaker 3: but it was all his and he was a narcissistic
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  Speaker 3: psychopath and he's got like, I don't know, twenty kids
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. But you don't know what they're
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  Speaker 3: doing in there, girl, You don't know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 3: But what you can do, and I'm not telling you
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  Speaker 3: this is what you have to do. This is just
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  Speaker 3: a little suggestion from the old peacher. Live your own life.
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  Speaker 3: Don't live any certain way because I say so. But
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  Speaker 3: you could always say a prayer to the Most High
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  Speaker 3: before you go in each and every time, and God's
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  Speaker 3: will be done, and God bless you. I hope you're successful.
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  Speaker 3: Motherhood is the greatest joy you could ever receive in life. Again,
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  Speaker 3: that's my opinion, but let me know how it goes
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  Speaker 3: for you. Next shout out is from Zee. Do you
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  Speaker 3: have any opinions on caffeine or coffee as far as
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  Speaker 3: a drug. We all have our vices. Maybe we all
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  Speaker 3: have our vices. I'm sitting here drinking a cup right now.
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  Speaker 3: Of course it is a half calf. I do a
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  Speaker 3: half calf in the afternoons or else I'll be up
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  Speaker 3: all night. But I drink a cup every morning, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: in the afternoon when I'm doing a recording. Just helps
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  Speaker 3: me push through. But I'm sure it could be considered
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  Speaker 3: caffeine could be considered a drug. I think energy drinks
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  Speaker 3: can be addictive. I vape, so you know before back
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  Speaker 3: in the day when I was like eighteen, eighteen nineteen,
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  Speaker 3: I think actually from eighteen to about twenty one, I
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  Speaker 3: smoked roughly two packs of Marlboro Reds a day. I
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  Speaker 3: know even the feature has her vices, but I think
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  Speaker 3: vapin's better. It could be worse. I don't know. Sure
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  Speaker 3: the fuck smells better and it tastes a lot better. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't actually mind the taste of a Marlboro Red. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: what's really good is a cup of coffee and a
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  Speaker 3: Marlboro Red? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, But it didn't
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  Speaker 3: do this to my voice, by the way. That was pregnancy.
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  Speaker 3: I still, you know, even after two packs of Marlboro
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  Speaker 3: Reds every day, I still had the voice of an angel.
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  Speaker 3: But no pregnancy changed all that. I'm not mad at it,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, don't correlate the two, because I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure you'd be quick to think that they were related.
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  Speaker 3: But sadly, no, no, thank god. I stopped when I did, though,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't want to be when those stoma haven't
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  Speaker 3: motherfuckers pretty hard to have a podcast when you have
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  Speaker 3: a stoma. Can you imagine bedafies? But Zoe, I say,
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  Speaker 3: everything in moderation, that's what I go on. Drink a
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  Speaker 3: little coffee, smoke a little sig. Everything in moderation, except
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  Speaker 3: for pedophilia. That's not There's no not any modern or
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  Speaker 3: murdered anything legal, okay, coffee, cigarettes, vape, whatever, alcohol, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everything in moderation. But there are some things, of course
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  Speaker 3: in life that there is no amount that is acceptable
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  Speaker 3: of But yeah, I mean sure Mormons think that coffee
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  Speaker 3: is some type of devil's juice or not to do it.
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  Speaker 3: But I love a good old coke on a summer's day.
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  Speaker 3: I love hot coffee in the fall. I love hot
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  Speaker 3: coffee every morning, but just especially get you a little
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  Speaker 3: pumpkin spice going. It's the simple things in life. But
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  Speaker 3: next shout out we got Ari, Julia and my siss
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  Speaker 3: I woke up one day and my subscription was canceled
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  Speaker 3: because of my form of payment was a process, so
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  Speaker 3: I one upped it and tripled down for my monthly subscription.
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  Speaker 3: I love you, says God. Bless you, you sweet little angel.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I cannot tell you how honored
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  Speaker 3: I am. She also says another one from Ari, I
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  Speaker 3: love your episodes with your cousin Brian. I laugh so
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  Speaker 3: hard at work like a crazy person. I loved y'all
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  Speaker 3: Jack the Ripper episode, and my favorite was when you
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  Speaker 3: guys and your brother and niece went to the Haunted
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  Speaker 3: House in Ohio. OMG, I nearly ped my pants so good.
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  Speaker 3: Please do that as the next Throwback Thursday. Well, Ari,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it for a Throwback Thursday, just for you, baby,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna save it for an October throwback. Since
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  Speaker 3: it is a Haunted House episode, I might go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and reshare for a throwback Thursday coming up the Jack
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  Speaker 3: the Ripper episode, because we've been talking about him recently.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I record it and God, bless you, Ari,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much. I love you with all my heart.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like when I recorded the Jack the Ripper episode,
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  Speaker 3: I had really good information and I fucked it up
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  Speaker 3: because I wasn't really good at the background music volume
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  Speaker 3: with the editing, yet I was still learning. I think
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  Speaker 3: it's a little loud. I think it tends to be
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  Speaker 3: obnoxious that episode, but if you can overlook the background music,
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to create an ambiyonce, you know, as
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  Speaker 3: I do, but it obviously took time and trial and
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  Speaker 3: error before I got it right. Sometimes I still don't
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  Speaker 3: think I got it right. But if I do a
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  Speaker 3: throwback Thursday with the Jack the Ripper episode, just keep
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  Speaker 3: in mind that was my bee. Got the background on
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  Speaker 3: Beyonce a little too loud in that one, but it's
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  Speaker 3: good information and Ari, I love you. I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 3: that Haunted House throwback for October now I have a
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  Speaker 3: couple things that I saved to talk to you about.
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  Speaker 3: Uh oh right, here says the phrase dog days of
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  Speaker 3: summer has nothing to do with your four legged friend.
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  Speaker 3: It originated in the ancient world with the time of
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  Speaker 3: year when Serious, the brightest star in the constellation Canus
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  Speaker 3: major rose alongside the Sun, a period that also marked
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  Speaker 3: the hottest stretch of the year. This century's old tradition
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  Speaker 3: was written in the stars. The Romans called this period
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  Speaker 3: days of the dog Star, a name that has endured
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  Speaker 3: for centuries. I use that term all the time, talking
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  Speaker 3: about August, the dog days of summer, and I always
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  Speaker 3: talk about how the eight pops up in the August connection.
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  Speaker 3: That eight representing the snake eating its tail the symbolism,
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  Speaker 3: but it also, mind you, represents serious the dog star, which, hello,
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  Speaker 3: if you look hard enough, they put dog star symbolism
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  Speaker 3: in everything. It's a calling card. And I did not
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  Speaker 3: know that about that fucking phrase, it's the dog days
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  Speaker 3: of summer. I'm never gonna say it again. That's probably
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  Speaker 3: on some devil worship stuff. Dog days of summer. Goddamn it. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the next thing I have, Florida Advances law allowing the
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  Speaker 3: death penalty for certain child's sexual abuse cases. Well, thank god,
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  Speaker 3: Idaho and Florida, God bless you. They're finally coming around
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  Speaker 3: to understanding that the only solution to child sex crime
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  Speaker 3: predators is swing sweet chaio death. It's death. And you know, Lord,
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  Speaker 3: if you could just see fit to send all these
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  Speaker 3: mutant motherfuckers to Florida or Idaho. You have options now, Lord,
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  Speaker 3: and thank you in advance. Amen. The pedophile puppet master
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  Speaker 3: he was in Florida. Maybe we could go back and
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  Speaker 3: rewrite history give him the old death penalty, but I
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  Speaker 3: think that's double jeopardy. I don't think he can do
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  Speaker 3: that anyways, onto the topic of the hour now. I
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  Speaker 3: found this video on the Imagination podcast. YouTube Chantel, which
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  Speaker 3: was the Imagination Podcast, was recom to me by one
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  Speaker 3: of you little sweeties out there. I'm pretty sure I
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  Speaker 3: read that on a shout out, so I checked it
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  Speaker 3: out and I've been keeping up with it this video.
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  Speaker 3: It was captioned A fascinating case of a massive Satanic
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  Speaker 3: cult discovered in Hampstead in the UK by the police.
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  Speaker 3: The case was amazingly well documented by camera. During the
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  Speaker 3: interviews of the children, scenes of satanic rituals, sexual abuse,
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  Speaker 3: infant murder, and cannibalism were described in vivid detail by
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  Speaker 3: the children. Those who were named by the children inside
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  Speaker 3: the cult include the children's biological father, a number of
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  Speaker 3: the staff members and parents of their classmates at the school,
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  Speaker 3: members of the police force in the school jurisdiction, members
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  Speaker 3: of the Hampstead community, including shop and restaurant owners, staff
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  Speaker 3: from at least seven other schools in the area, and
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  Speaker 3: clergy members from the local church. All of these videos
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  Speaker 3: and details were private case files that were later leaked
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  Speaker 3: to the public. The children were later intimidated, told to
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  Speaker 3: redact their stories, and taken back by their abusers. The
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  Speaker 3: mother of these children has never seen them again. The
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  Speaker 3: lady who exposed these tapes was sentenced to nine years
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  Speaker 3: of her life in prison. This case is massive in
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  Speaker 3: itself with who is incriminated. There are now updates in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, and there is a brief covering of
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  Speaker 3: it by someone who has also been exposed to this abuse.
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  Speaker 3: It goes on to say this video is part one
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  Speaker 3: interview by child A who discusses allegations of a large
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  Speaker 3: child abuse ring Enhancestad, London that was allegedly covered up
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  Speaker 3: by police and courts. Two children, Alisa and Gabrielle, made
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  Speaker 3: detailed allegations in twenty fourteen of being sexually abused by
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  Speaker 3: over one hundred people, including teachers and members of a
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  Speaker 3: satanic cult. However, police did not properly investigate or arrest
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  Speaker 3: any suspects. While a doctor found injuries consistent with abuse,
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  Speaker 3: a judge ruled the claims were baseless without considering failures
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  Speaker 3: in the police investigation. The mother of the children has
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  Speaker 3: not seen them since twenty fifteen. Supporters demand a proper
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  Speaker 3: police investigation into the children's original claims of abuse. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what it read. I had seen snippets of this
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  Speaker 3: case on Instagram, maybe Facebook back in the day, TikTok,
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  Speaker 3: you name it, but it was always just like a
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  Speaker 3: five minute segment or a two minute clip, or even
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  Speaker 3: at like a thirty second chunk. But never had I
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  Speaker 3: ever sat and listened in full gory detail the whole testimony.
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  Speaker 3: Oh boy, Now, I'm sure you guys have probably seen
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  Speaker 3: these tapes floating around as I had, but you haven't
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  Speaker 3: seen them with the feature. And guess what we need
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  Speaker 3: to talk about it because, in my opinion, hello, this
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  Speaker 3: is the English McMartin case, the English McMuffin, if you wish,
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  Speaker 3: except it's worse. Yes, it's worse because the kids are
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  Speaker 3: a little bit older and it's much more recent, and
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  Speaker 3: hearing it from the mouth of babes hits you a
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  Speaker 3: little differently than just reading about it in a book
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  Speaker 3: like program to kill what happened to the kids in
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  Speaker 3: the McMartin case. But I want to watch it now.
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  Speaker 3: The whole thing is about two hours long, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't really have time to sit here and watch a
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  Speaker 3: two hour long video. I'm mostly focusing on the first
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  Speaker 3: interview with the little girl. I think it's like twenty
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  Speaker 3: minutes or something like that, and I just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: watch it with you, bust In and talk about it because,
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  Speaker 3: according to the information provided here, a doctor found injuries
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  Speaker 3: consistent with abuse, and a judge ruled the claims were
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  Speaker 3: baseless without considering failures in the police investigation. So nothing
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  Speaker 3: ever happened, no justice was ever served for these children's
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  Speaker 3: and we need to talk about it. So without further ado,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to share my screen here, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: get the video queued up, and we're going to be
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  Speaker 3: watching it together, Roll one one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I just first of all, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: everyone's name so clear. Who is Mine's Steve and I'm
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  Speaker 2: a placement and I work here at Barnett Police Station.
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  Speaker 2: This lady here, her name's Cleo Claire and Steve Cleo.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't met Jean Clement, but we do similar jobs.
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  Speaker 2: But he works in a different part of London. I
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  Speaker 2: think he works, so yeah, somewhere else, so I've never
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  Speaker 2: met him. I've never met him, but he does work.
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  Speaker 2: He's a policeman.
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  Speaker 1: She's a sergeant.
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  Speaker 2: He is a police sergeant, okay. And Cleo's a police
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  Speaker 2: lady and her job is the controller today, and that
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  Speaker 2: means she controls everything that's going on there, making sure
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  Speaker 2: it's all working, okay. And if you see, she had
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  Speaker 2: a pen and paper and she might make some notes
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  Speaker 2: because she might want to ask something. At the end,
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  Speaker 2: John Penn and then from then we'll just we'll talk.
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  Speaker 2: So that leaves one other person here, and that's you.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just ask you to say your full name.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's your first.
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  Speaker 1: Name, Alisa, Alisa, my real my real name is Grace Grace.
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  Speaker 1: My name, my name is Alisa Giva, dearmon. But my
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  Speaker 1: second name is Grace, as I.
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  Speaker 2: Said, Alicia, Grace Demon. Okay. So there's four names you've got, okay. So,
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  Speaker 2: and if you've got a middle name, is Grace your
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  Speaker 2: middle names?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And no other names? Is Grace so perfect? Alicia Grace
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  Speaker 2: Goriva Demon, Yes, okay. And how old are you? Nine years?
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  Speaker 1: I was not nine years old right now?
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  Speaker 2: And so do you prefer to called Alicia or Grace?
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  Speaker 1: Lisa?
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  Speaker 2: Alisa called Alisa? Yeah, Alisa being called Grace. Okay. So
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  Speaker 2: what I'd like to do is just go through some
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  Speaker 2: of the rules and just explain today's day.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's half past ten in the evening. It's the fifth
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  Speaker 2: of September. And as I said, we're here at Barnet
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  Speaker 2: and what we're going to talk about. I wasn't there,
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  Speaker 2: So because I wasn't there, I need you to explain
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  Speaker 2: in are's much detail everything you can remember, okay. So
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  Speaker 2: just really think about everything that you can remember and
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  Speaker 2: tell me about it. Okay. If I ask you something
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  Speaker 2: you don't understand what I'm saying, tell me and I'll
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  Speaker 2: look at a different way, okay. And that goes the
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  Speaker 2: other way. If you say something and I'm not really
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  Speaker 2: sure what you mean. I might ask you to say
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  Speaker 2: it again, or am I ask a question in a
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  Speaker 2: different way? Yeah, I might say, well what does that mean?
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  Speaker 2: Or what can you tell me? And so that's that one. Really,
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  Speaker 2: if I ask you a question you don't know the answer,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine. Just tell me you don't know, okay. And
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  Speaker 2: that's because I want you to tell everything the truth, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want you to guess if you don't if
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  Speaker 2: you don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know, we're going to skip past some of this.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Let's go right here. Let's see all right, let's start
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: right here.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So you've come here with your mom, and do you
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: live with your mom?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Do you live with?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: And who else do you live with?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And that's just my mom. I live with my mom,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: my dads. I live with my my brother, Gabriel, Gabriel
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: your mom. Yes, and we are when free, yes, okay.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: And my big brother James he sometimes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Comes, okay, and he's James.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: James is just my big brother. But he's not really
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: like he knows he knows this about this, but no,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: he doesn't really like doing yet. What'd you mean my
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: big brother, James?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: James Harold is James.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: He's about seventeen, but he doesn't he doesn't. He's not
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's not really included because he doesn't really
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: live with us. Okay, he lives with his other dad.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: He doesn't live with us, but he comes to visit
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: us on Saturdays.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: So is he your half brother?
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He is my brother. He is my brother. So he's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: just that his dad is married to to. So my
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: mom married two men. So first is when when my
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: big brother was born, and after she broke up with
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: His name is Will. He broke up with him, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: after she don't marry, but she she like she loved Ricky,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: which is my dad, so then they so then we
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: were born, so then she broke up.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: So your dad is Ricky James. His daddy is Will.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Well Will Draper, and my mom's name is Ella Draper.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: And but you and James both have the same mom.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Who understand? And what about Gabriel?
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: He's my brother and is he.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: The son of Will? Is the son of Ricky?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Sends Ricky and me and Gay so the daughter and
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: son of Ricky and James's son of Will.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Perfect? So you live with your mom?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: And do you ever get to see your dad. Do
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: you my dad ricky Ricky.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Every two saturdays? But actually, in fact, he lies to
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: my mom and he says that he just sees He
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: just sees us every two saturdays and orders.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you see him every two saturdays.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: We see him every single day.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Every single day. And how do you do that?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: He comes to our school.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And what does he do at the school?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: He does except does sex? To us, he kills babies. There.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: We eat babies, We drink dad blood. Okay, because this
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: is how we do it. So on Wednesdays, Wednesdays is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: the most special day.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Let me just break out god. First off, the little
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: girl is extremely eloquent, very intelligent, very emotionally intelligent, very
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: detailed in descriptions, and she Okay, this is the part
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: that bothers me the most about this is the way
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: she describes this stuff. She's so matter of fact about it.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: It would be as if you asked her to describe
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: what she had for dinner last night. And I can't believe. See,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: if I was doing the interview, I wouldn't be able
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: to keep my cool like this guy is, Oh, we
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: chopped the babies and we eat the babies. Oh, okay,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and what else I wouldn't.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Be able to do it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: You guys, Oh my god, let's continue.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Is his days special day?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll start. We'll take it a little bit by
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit. So you say your dad comes to
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: your school every day? Yes, what does that mean?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: So that means he comes like whenever we have school
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: on Saturdays, he comes and sees us stuff.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Whereabouts does he come and see you?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: My school? Christ Church Primary School? That's where that's where,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that's when the area we live next to Christi Primary
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: School because we live in by Patterson Road. And then
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: after he comes to our school.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So who drops you off at school in the morning?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: So you get dropped off at school? When you get
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: dropped off at school, what do you do then?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: So then they check if the coast is clear, my
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: mom is not there or anything around the area to go,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: mister Morris, he did take care take carp He goes
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: around the school of school areas and checks as my
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: mom is there or anything like if the coast is clear.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: And after and after they called my dad and say
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that everything's all right, my mom is not there. It's
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's very clear. How do you know that because that's
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: because they got the number of my dad.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: And how do you know that?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Because I heard them talking to my dad. That was
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: exactly my own my dad's own dad was.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: As, where were you when you heard this? Caretakers?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Staff room? Staff room?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Where were you in the staff room?
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Because that's where they do sex to me?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: So you've got to school. We've got school, you mum,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you've got how did you get to school?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: So so we just gone and buy a car though.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: So you go by a car, you mom, get to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: the school? Yes, So we get out of the car
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and where'd you go? Festival?
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Then? So this is where the parkner's just thettle path.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: We go upstairs and there's a little path and then
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: here's the big our school and you just walk in.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: But that's the way the infants are, but you have
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to go further along and that's where the junior because
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: I'm in junior. So when you go in, the junior
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: does downstairs and just and then there's a big playground
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: and then there's this office the whole schoolder.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: She's going to the school in the infants part and
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: you walk crown to the price the front.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: When you just come in the room there's just an office,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: just office, just at the front. There's the door going
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: in the in the hallway where we do assembly. Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and on the right, not on the left, you going,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and there's this the head.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: You see how she corrected herself, right, then that's the
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: sign that she's telling the truth. And she's also motioning
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: with her hands. This what she's about to say is
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: outside the imagination of a child. And I don't care
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: what anybody thinks to me for saying that. I know
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: some people have children with wild invest imaginations, but this
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: is outside any normal, healthy child's imagination.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: It's just office there and the staff toilet, and there's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: just this like where the teachers go and do the
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: tie typing and work, and there's upstairs there's you four
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: and your five and after just like I'm in your four,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: So in your four, there's just there and then your
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: five is there on that side. And the staff room
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: is just at the front of us. So just walk
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: in the staff room and then there's just two. There's
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: just just this kitchen and then there's a sofa and
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that's where we do sex.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: So why do you go in there? First of all,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: why don't you just go to class.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We'd go to class sometimes to yes, we go to class, to.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Go to class, yes, okay, and then what happens.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And then they got this in my classroom. They've got
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: this little door at the back, right back the classroom.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: They've got a little door and it's just a lof
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of tiny little room. There's all stuff to a sweet priders,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: especially to pay the children sweat to do sex to them. Yeah,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: so they give sweets as much as they like. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: they so they give sweets so till they're like folly,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: they're done. So they because while they eat the sweets,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: they do sex to them. So they pay them sweets
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and and then after they do what they want them
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to do, okay, because they will because the children children children,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: So there's there's loads, there's children from our school. Two
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: hundred children in our school. But it's not like all
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: there's twenty special children. There's Millie, she's a brown girl,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Millie Caroll.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Millie Caw.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so how do you know she's one of the
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: twenty special children.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Because she's because I know because she comes into they
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: do sex to her.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Mostly who's they who's there?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: The teachers, the parents, the staff.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Every teachable specific teacher, every.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Single the whole school does it, the whole the whole school.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: And we've got our own church too. So so because
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: they do that because after, as I said, we kill babies,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: we drink their blood, we eat them. But then after
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we so the social services who are in it, they
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: so they go to families or so they go to families.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: So the families can't afford so they get a baby,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: but they can't look after it or anything. They can't
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: buy food or they can't buy clothes, they can't look
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: after it. So they sell their families who sell their children.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: So the social services get them. They say they get
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: them fro foster home, whether they don't, they get the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: babies or the children. And then they then they put
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: they get miss Marden our house in our school. She
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: injects the child or baby in the internet. Just here though,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: because I saw her doing it. I saw her doing it.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: How did you see her doing it?
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Because I saw her in the staff room she was
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: getting this this this, so she got this injection and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: she done so the baby was that it was just
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: sitting on the table and I was just laughing that
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: and after she just injected and it was just like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just like it was like I slowly went to sleep
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and like it was just like budd not like this foul.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Straight away, they just they put it because it was
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like it was like it looked like it was slowly
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: moving down like that. Yeah. So then after yes, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: then after they get put put on this bit they.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: From One of the biggest signs to me that this
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: is all true is that she's re enacting what she saw.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: She even made her eyes heavy when she said that
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: it didn't just like flap down down it like slowly.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You can tell she's she's remembering and she's visualizing it
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: in her mind and she's trying to reenact it as
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: she remembers it. And that's just another that's just another
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: clue in it. First off, they found physical evidence people
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: that this was happening. But anyways, let's continue.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: You get the baby to hang it up so down.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I think that's worth the string on the on the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: wall because there's this little this this little like uh
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: swear it is a screw. And as they put a
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: string as like a circle string turned to the legs,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: hang it up so down, and then they get a
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: special the knife they use for cutting the baby's head off.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: So you know this big big big ones, like there's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: this big Chinese ones which you chop up coconut off. Right,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: he has to get cleavers, aren't they. I don't know
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: what they're called.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: You've described it, but enough.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, you remember Fiona Barnett's testimony, She said they always
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: cut the baby's head off with the samurai sword. They
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: always got their baby's head off with the samur eyes
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: sord cerd.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Because our dad he forces me and Gabel to do it,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but because we can't, we're not strong enough to cut
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the baby's set off. He has us to hold an
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: eye and he puts his hand at the top of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: our hand and he helps us to cut your baby's
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: head off. Because he's learning. He's teaching me and Gabriel,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: so when we're older to do it to our own children,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and do this kind of.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Stuff to our own Where is it this that happens.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: The church, in the kitchen, in our church?
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: This string? Tell me about this, just.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: This, it's just like it's not just like just a
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: thin normal string. It's a bit thick. Is like maybe
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that that thick?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: And they tie around in a circle, hang it up
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: so it's on legs. They put the legs together tie
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on and so there's like one string around and then
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: one string attached and it's hanging upside down. They get
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the the knife, the knife, but they do just cut
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it off. Absolutely this is still on. So it's they
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: slight their head off, but they're still hanging on. Okay, yes,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And then there's a big white bobble on the floor
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and then the blood drips in and then they put
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: we put it pour it, you know, a big silver goblet.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, So where's this white Where do they get the
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: white bow from?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: They bought they bought the big white bubble from where from?
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Doesn't in any shop?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: And white and where? But where do they get the
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: but where did they get the ball from? This time?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Any shop? Any shot like this?
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: So you know, but you obviously didn't see them.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Get no, I don't know. You don't know what's shot.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: But I think I think they went to this h
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: what is your called next brank cross? Okay, isn't it?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: It's near brand cross?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: And where where is it? Kept?
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: In a cupboard? In a cupboard?
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: What cupboard?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: There's just just like a like a normal cupboard.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: So it's like.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: A cupboard, like a kitchen cupboard.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, where is this kitchen cupboard?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: They say, there's a kitchen in the church and in a.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: School, right kitchen kitchen in the kitchen is hanging up? Yes,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: and you said that, yes, yes, And it's kept in
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: the cupboard. So what cupboard is it kept in.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: It's just a wooden cupboard.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: So it's if I had to go in the kitchen,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: how would I find it? Tell me how I can.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: It's not as big as this room is much bigger,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: much bigger. So there's just like maybe just around just
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: around on this wall. It's around here is this little cupboard.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: It's not little, it's a medium size.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Right, there's a medium cover. So where's the door.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: The door is a bit of that.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Doors over there. Then you said the cupboard would be
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: in the other corner, yes, okay, And it's the cupboard
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: up up at the top or down at the bottom.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: It's at the top in the middle like that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, said wood. And what color would do?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Just normal brown wood?
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Okay? And there are any other cupboards around it?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, there is some other cubs look around the walls,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots few.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: If I come in. How can I go to that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: cupboard without making any mistake with one of the other side.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: If you come in a room, here's just the stink
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: and here's the big table and instead as little as
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I said, the cupboard. So you see this frame and
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it's a wish. It's just it's a bit bigger then
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the size, and it's just that a bit that colored
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: wood but brown. And then it's just this cupboard and
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: then just got the normal handles and then just like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: there's just wooden handles. So you have to open and
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there's this white bobble and it's silver goblet. The two
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: things that we use the plates that we used to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: eat the baby on. Yes, so and then tell they
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: tell me and Gabriel, But who actually killed the babies
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: was my father. He kills the babies.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the baby's hanging up. Do they hang it up?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: What do they use? It's got the string and what's
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it attached to?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's it got screwdrivering on the wall.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Screwdriver.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: It's just it's just like a wall. It's not like
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: the same like the screw The door is actually down.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Then that's the's the kitchen where we are to do
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the like the that's the usual kitchen where we usually.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Like to go in the door. So where's this screw
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: on the wall.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: It's just just just like the door, the door, pretended
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: door is just there. It's another kitchen though this is
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: the kitchen we usually use.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: So how how do I know that it's a different kitchen?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: What's different about this kitchen?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: This is just it is just a different shape and
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: it looks it looks different.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Whereabouts this kitchen in our school, in our squareabouts in school.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: It's just look at this in the school. Just there's
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: normal kitchen school the kitchen. Yes the word they made
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the school dinners so the.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: School can team. Yes, okay, it's in there to go
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: in the door. Where's the screw on the wall.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: So it's just just like there's just this. So here's
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the door when you come in, and there's this little
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: screwdriver screw. It's not a screwdriver screw screw. Yes, it's
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: in the wall and it got space on so you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: have to hang the string on, but you make sure
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it's still it's like secure. So they put it because
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: they got because mister Morris, he works, he works hard,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: he works with hammers. He works that kind of stuff. Yeah,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: So he gets this screw in the wall and after
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: he hangs it up, he hangs the baby up and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Papa and me they either me or Gabriel hold on
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: to the life. But he actually kills the baby because
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: he puts his hand on our hand. So then he
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: says to swing and just chop off the baby's head off.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But they stop straight away like maybe maybe so like once,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: so you go like this one and then just leave
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: a bit of space so it's still on the head,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: but it's better. It's just the blood is dripping in ball.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: That's how we drain out the blood.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, to do that blood does blood go like everywhere?
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we don't make that that. We
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: go like that's like, we don't just go to smash
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: like that. We go to this one like like like
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: like not so speedy, just like medium speed. You just
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: got it like that fast like that, and we make
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: sure it's not like blood spilled everywhere because they we
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: make sure that everything everything is clean as much as
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: clean as they can dole it because they're cleaner after
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that too. If this blood is on the floor or
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: something like that, they wipe it off, yes, yes, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: then we put and then after we we pull pour
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: it in the silver goblet.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: And where do they get the silver goblet from.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know where, what shop? Yes, it's with the
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: white bowl in the same cupboard.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: In the same cupboard, its wooden cupboard. Yes, that's not
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: in this kitchen where they hanging on the scrows and
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: a different kitchen, is that right?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, because they get the ball from the other
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: kitchen to that kitchen.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Understood. So where are all the people work in the canteen?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: And I don'derstand.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: If it's a kitchen to make assume is it to
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: make all the children's lunches.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, but instead instead of making those the children lunches
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: they put they give baby to the children.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: They give baby to the children.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, so they give if they make if they say
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: they're spaghetti bolonnaise that day, they put a baby eachen
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: all the time?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: How to make baby meats?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Because they get because they cut the baby missus faulst
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: like they had mistress. She cuts the baby.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: And what about all the bones and that, yes.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, they keep the bones after they go, I know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: but the bones they do just like keep them. They
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: like they make stuff out of them. So they make
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: like statues of the church. Yes, because they got carving.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Like the people carving people. They're working nearest with cottage
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: somewhere there that that's where they work in the carving shop.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: And it's just and then they got this, they've got
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the child. There's a man called Felix there and then
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: he makes this like he makes statues of church churches.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: He makes that kind of stuff. Let's see he makes.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Can you make quiet? They just an interview cheers, yeah, no,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: find cheers.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So it's just like they make they make like statues
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and stuff out of the bones because they got carved.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: As I said, they've got carving people. So they've got Felix,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: they've got man the two people got the best ones
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: at carving. So our church, we've got our own church. Yes,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: they make carving of that church. And they don't just
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: sell it. They sell it sometime, keep it. The school
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: keeps it sometimes.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't it take two seconds of looking into this to
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: realize that this is all true. There's a man named Fredix,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: and he takes the bones and he grinds them up
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: and he makes a little bit of bread and a
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: little statue, and he's all you gotta do is look
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: for Felix and max it to corroborate this story. Missus
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: fast Ike, she gets the baby up and she put
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: it in a spaghetti baline. They do this to everyone.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: That's why I now see this is on a small scale.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: What do you think they do on the big scale
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: with the vast food restaurants? What do you think they
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: do with all the processed food? If this is the
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: small scale, what do you think they're doing on the
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: corporate level.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Usually they sell it for money because they want money.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: How do you know this because I saw they have
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: statues of them.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Felix makestche.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Yes, and the skulls of the babies, you know the skulls. Yes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: they get the scars and they make hole. They may
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: make a hole with a driller, so they make a
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: hole in and they put these tye string around and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: then they put all around the body. But they're naked,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and they got this tattoo on the private with like
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: little piercings okay, not like ear rings, but like little
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: gold piercings around their private and they all dance around
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: with skulls.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: On in the church.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: That okay.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: So they put their skulls like the teachers and stuff.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: They got twenty skulls each.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: And how do I got twenty?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: H Yes, because I counted once. They were like there's
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: one here, and then there's one here, and there's one
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: on here. Like it looks like like like skulls everywhere
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: on her knees, on their elbows. It looks like armor.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. So if I was to try and find these skulls.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Wherever, yes, yes, in the church. So there's this secret rooms.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: They've got secret rooms. Secret so when you go in
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the sacred rooms, because they hide it in loads of places.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: Would help me find them, would yes?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yes, they just hide them anyway. They just hide
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: it in one place, then they move to other place,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: then they move to other place.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: There's just okay, So I go into the church now, yes.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: And they hide Usually they hide it in their houses
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: because they have parties in their houses.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Because mister Hollings, my teacher, he lives in Highgate right, Yes,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: if you can see him house because he's Porsch. He
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: got Porsch and it's just at the front of his house.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, So how do you know he keeps him in his.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: House because I know because of what his house once.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Tell me about his house. What does it look like?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It's big? It's big, okay, big.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: We go in the front door. What kinds to the
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: front door?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: It's just normal black color, normal black.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Normal black. Yes, Yes, we go, I go in. I've
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: gone in mister Peter's house, is it? Sorry, mister Holling,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: mister Hollings, sorry, going into miss through the black door?
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And what do I go in?
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Corridor? There's a corridor.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: Tell me about the corridor.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: First of all, there's a corridora. It's just like it's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: just a corridorna. Is this little table and the shoes
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: there all his kind of shoes?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Yes? And stop there? Sorry, sorry, So going into this corridor,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it's small corridor. It's a table, yes, with shoes. Tell
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: me about the table. Tell me everything about.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: This tables they've got It's not like it does not
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: have stuff on. It doesn't have just like skulls on.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have that. It got just like maybe car keys.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Maybe it got his jacket on, maybe it got his
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: bag on. I don't know, different kind of stuff, personal stuff.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So this table, what does it look.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Like it's just a normal looking a square table.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It's square there like in here, but someone could describe
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: that as a table. This is a table. They're all
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: very different, aren't they. So tell me about first of all,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: if you stand up, stand, so how high to you
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: is the table? Okay? There's someone here, Okay, so somewhere there.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: What color is it?
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: It's just normal like normal, just normal like black color
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: like this, it is normal wood and black.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Wood and black. Yes, it's wood and black, yes, okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: it's a little bit hard wood and black. Square.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's just like that big that's the thing.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Like this and like this okay, and then right, so
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: that's that's the top of it described it's square. Yes.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: And then when you go down a bit, there's.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Just under the table there's shoes that his shoes. They're
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: so all his different kind of shoes, yes, yes, okay.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: And then what about the floor. What's on the floor
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: on floor?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: It is just as I said, it's just got shoes
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: on gott car floor. It got carpet on the floor.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: To what the sort of carpet.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not like a carpet, like it's not a
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: carpet everywhere everywhere, Like you know when you come in
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: the house, and it's just usually a small like a
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: small carpet, a carpet at the front of the door. Yeah,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I got that, and then the rest is just wooden brown.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: Just you see this colored door, just that like that quite.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: That shows quite a dark brown. So that's sort of
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: color brown. So that's color brown for his floor. Yes,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: so you go down the corridor, yes, and then what
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: rooms are off the corridor?
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Se where the where's this corridor? Here's the living room,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: here's the kitchen, and then just stare, there's this toilet,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: and then here's you go up the room stairs.
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, so right, so go in. Yes, there's a living room, yes,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: a kitchen, yes, a downstairs toilet yes, and stairs go
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: upstairs yes, yes. And have you been in all of
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: those rooms downstairs?
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, tell me about the living room firstival what's the
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: living room?
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: They've got secret rooms in there?
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: They've got secret rooms in there in the living room? Okay, secret,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: top secret?
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, if we talk about the not top secret bits.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: First of all, tell me about the normal bits of
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: the living room.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's just like it's bigger than this.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's a room bigger than that.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a big, large room. And then you go
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: to go to the vision so far as it's like
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: a normal living room okay, yes, and just that there's
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: like a half part is a living room and half
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: part is the dining room. Okay, So there's like mixed
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: rooms that that's why it's big.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, a living room and a dining room. And in
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: one room has got any tables or chairs or sofas.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: What's he got?
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: So he's got television, just a big Samsung because you
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: consume silver writing some song?
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, she's got Samson te big one and once does that?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Where is that?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Telly? It's just a good fun like it looks a
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: bit like a table like that, but it's a bit
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: smaller this size this like this heart and how big
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: is the same size, but there's just this height.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: It's as big as this but smaller.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Television is done and the sofas table sort of it's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: not like a sofa's not like like like a multi colored.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: It's just like this not brown, but it's kind of blackish,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: really really really dark brown.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: And what sort of size is the sofa?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like this, but like if you join
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: that chair to the sofa, so if it's like that
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: chair just here, it's a joint.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: So it's long ago is it? And what about?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: And then okay, there's a long sofas like that, like
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: like this, and what shape is it?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Sofa?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: It's like this, so you go, it's like that the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: sofa like.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: An L shape. Yeah, okay, yeah, she's got a bigger
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: than this. It's like a blackie color.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's really really dark brown, much darker.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: And where does he keep the baby skulls?
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: The baby skulls in his house?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Whereabouts?
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: So they say, then at the front to the were
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the dining room has this big wardrobe and he just
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: keeps maybe spare clothes or anything like that, like maybe
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: like if there's like maybe places, bowls or anything like that,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: he just keeps it there. But it's not like the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: wardrobe is just like discussed right in the wardrobe you
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: can see it, like you open the door and you
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: can see it. It's not like that it's top secret
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: in that sodden after just maybe because sometimes he keeps
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: spare close as he said. So they've got the hangar
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: and just close their coats or anything like that. And
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: after you have to apart the clothes and there's a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: little door there, but it's like it's like it looks camouflaged.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: You can't really see it find it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: So here's the close but you can't see the door
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: because it closed out in front of it. It's all
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: like all covered like that. But you have to part
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: the clothes and after you can see it's like it
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: looks like it looks like it just like a normal wool,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: but it's not a normal wool. It got little handle
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: there is there?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, And what does his handle look like? How could
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I find it?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: It's like you like more like a handle like that,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: but it's still wooden. It's like like a bendy one,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: like like how do you say? Like that?
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Okay? And when I opened that door, I.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: S inside you have to go downstairs to underground underground.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: What's in their underground?
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: So then we got underground and after there's this little hallway,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and then the right there's this door, and then there's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: this big normal secret room.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: What's in the secret room?
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: In the secret room, there's cupboards everywhere, it looks like everywhere.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: But then they do sex there too.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: How do you know to do sex there?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Because they took me there to do sex.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: Who took you there?
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: My father, mister Hollings chick.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: My father, your father? Sorry? Okay do you call him father?
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: A papa? Papa? So papa's taking you down there? And
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: what did you do There's just so you do sex.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: They have plastic So they have plastic with their bip
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: plastic willies, okay, yes, and then they strap it on.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: And but they make sure they want plastic willies. They
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: don't want to really use their real WILLI why because
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't hurt. They want to make sure it hurts.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, So who's they so, Papa and who else?
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Mister Holings, head.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Mistress, the head mistress.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yes, Ms Mardon, mister Foni, mister Borge.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: So who done it when you went to the house?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Who was there?
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: So all the all the staff, all the stuff, all
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: the parents, you know, the parents of all the children,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: they all know about it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, they do it, okay? And so you've got in there, yes,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: And who's used the plastic willies?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: All of them? All of them?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And where they keep the plastic willies?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: They keep them in the cupboards they've got as I said,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: they've got cupboards around. So they've got maybe two governments
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: there and two cupboards that they've got cupboards around all
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: around the room.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I wanted to make sure it gets absolutely correct.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Exits saving the case of because in case, because they
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: know that they know that, because they do not trust
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: me and Gabriel, because they say that not to tell
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: anyone about Yes, but they do not trust us. But
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: because they can see them, because they because they when
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: they tell us not to tell about this anything, they
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: look so curious. It looks like it looks like they're
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: not trust they don't trust us.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, So I just get mister hollings house. Yes, go
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: there side. Then you go to the door. Yes, you
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: go into a corridor. Got a little carpet, wooden floor,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: very dark like this door. Yes, on the on the
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: side of.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: The living room at the front, there's a kitchen and there's.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: A little table. Then go into the living room. He's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: got a large sofa which is in an L shaped
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: big samson on a large black shelf. Describe, he said.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: In the dining room area, he's got a wardrobe.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Then and all the stuffed in spare clothes, all.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Stuff with spare but if you part it, yeah, to
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: find a little door.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yes you can. You can't really see it because it's
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: currently like kind of camouflaged its camouflage.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, it looks a bit a little wooden handle.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, you can open that. Yes, that's the thing
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: is that they've got exits stuff because they can run
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: out of the house too.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, but you go down into this, it takes you
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: into a basement. Yes, and then in there there's loads
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: of cupboards.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: There's loads of cupboards.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: And I said, yes, your dad, pastor Papa, mister Hollings,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: some other members of staff. Yes, then had sex with you, yes,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: using plastic.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, and then they touched each other okay. And as
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: they said, they sell me and my brother of fifty
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: pounds each every single day to any people, any people
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: who like like, any people who would like do well,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: who are like the kind of people who will actually
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: do sex to, like who can't come to to school
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: if we are busy or anything like that. But then
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: they keep me and Gabriel to do sex towards. They've
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: got their equipment, so they got the plastic quillies, and
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: then they do it. And then after maybe for two hours,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: maybe one during school hours.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, so the what is sex? We haven't said what
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: sex is?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: What is it? Like sex? So they touch each So
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: they touch each other on the private and as they said,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: they well I didn't tell you about this, but they've
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  Speaker 1: got this big plastic stick yes, not not plastic but wooden. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and then they put it between our legs and they
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  Speaker 1: hit it right between us. But like they're in between our.
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  Speaker 2: Legs, so they hit you with yes, what's what's that
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  Speaker 2: is that sex?
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  Speaker 4: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: No? No, no, but that's how they had hurt us.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But the real sex is like they get plastic quillies.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: They put sticky in our bomb. That's what kind of
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: sex they do?
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  Speaker 2: And what is your bomb?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: So they stick in the plastic quilly in our bomb?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Where so where the poop comes out?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so they put in the boom where yes, yes,
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  Speaker 2: and anywhere else yes?
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  Speaker 1: Not from private and yes no no, So if they
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  Speaker 1: if they like if because if we if we say
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  Speaker 1: it hurts, so if we cry or make a sound,
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  Speaker 1: they will give us spoon licks. So they'll get a
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  Speaker 1: spoon to get spoons, and then they hit us, hit us,
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  Speaker 1: hit us on the head. That's when whenever we come
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  Speaker 1: back to our mom she always says. She doesn't say,
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  Speaker 1: but that's why we always got bumps on our heads.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't say, why do you have bumps on
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: your head? She hasn't say that.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how to get to mister Hollings house?
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  Speaker 4: Do you.
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  Speaker 1: Me from from our school?
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: From us? From school? Do you a bit? I know?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I know some of the way. I know some of
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  Speaker 1: the way.
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  Speaker 2: Where where could where? If we took yourself where would
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: you be able to find? Where his house is?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Is that I do remember the like the number of
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  Speaker 1: his actual house?
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  Speaker 2: Could you say, say we drive near it? Is that one?
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Yes? I can. I can spot it because I know
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  Speaker 1: because he always park he went, no matter what, he
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: always parks his Porsche the front always. I know, all
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: like his car looks like I know.
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  Speaker 2: Actually know what street is? The name of the street
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  Speaker 2: is where?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I know it's Highgate? Is high Gate?
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: If we went to high Gate? Would you be able
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: to find the house?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Yes? If we drove around high Gate? Drove around and
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: if I spot like like if I spot the house
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  Speaker 1: because I know how the house looks.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a thousand houses. Yes, yes, yes, How would you
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: know where to go?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Because that's because because when me, my Abraham, my mom's friend,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: and my mom and Gabriel, we go to this other
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: friend's house called Gary. Yes, and then you go through Highgate.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: He lives near Highgate, so he goes so when you
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: go through high Gate, just at the bottom of Higher Gate,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: he lives there. So then when we go through, I
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: can also when you go through on the on the left,
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  Speaker 1: you can that's the road where I remember, that's around there.
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  Speaker 1: That's where his house is.
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  Speaker 2: If we went to Gary's house, you'd be able to
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  Speaker 2: tell me from there, which yeah, but.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: My my, my mom and a Brown knows how to
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: go to Gary's house. So when we're on the way,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay. And does anything ever happened to your dad's house?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, my father lives at Angel Road. But it's like
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: on the corner, right on the corner.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: What happened there?
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: And so there's they got the same, like mister Hollings,
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  Speaker 1: a bit, they a bit the same house, a bit
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the same in this the same looks this, like I said,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: said the wardrobe, there's that kind of stuff that's the same.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: So the godless little distairs down says yes, get yeah,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: he's one of this kind of light lightish brown, lightish brown's.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Got lightish brown door. Go in there? Where's this wardrobe in.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: The living room? As I said, a bit this like like, mister.
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  Speaker 2: Hollings, go to the living room. What does this wardrobe
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: look like?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: It's not like mister Hollings is, but similar. It's long,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: it's long.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So go to the wardrobe. Yes, And how do
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I get through the secret door? How do I get
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: into the secret door?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They got keys. They got keys to the door.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Because mister Morris, my father, like, well, Papa, how.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Could I tell there's a door there? So I go
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: to the wardrobe. Yes, how would I know that? It's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: not just the back of a wardrobe and it's a door.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: How could I tell what's different about it?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: There's no difference, there's no difference.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: Where do you put the key?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Then? No, no, no, there's no key to go in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: a wardrobe. There's no key. Sorry, But when you go
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: down the stairs into the secret room underground, they got
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the room in there, they got the keys to it,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: mister Morris, Papa, mister forstaid, mister Hollings they've got the big,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: big bunches of keys. Big.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: So how do I get so open the wardrobe? What's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: in the wardrobe?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: So there's just stuffed in of closed.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Stare closed? Get all the closed out of the way. Yes,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and what do I find?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: And then after you find it's just it looks just
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: like a normal wardrobe because it's cam flooded. And make
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: sure you can't see it. Yes, because it's just right
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: in the middle. So here's here's the here's this is
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: the water.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I'll be able to see gap.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: It's like comflowd imagine this was like red and then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: they imagine this was like this is this is the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: same color.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: Would be able to move the wardrobe out of the
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: way and find a hole in the wall or not?
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: No, because you have to the door. It's attached to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: the wall, and it got stairs going down the wardrobe.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Would I see the door?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: But then if something the best thing to do, then yes.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Sometimes yes, But sometimes when they go in the wardrobe
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: and they go downstairs, they close behind the door and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: then they've got this another like it looks like like
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: like another brick wall. It looks like a brick wall door.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: And then they close it behind too, so it looks
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: like a double door.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Let me just make shoun clips. So go to your
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: dead's house there, move the wardrobe out the way the door, Yes,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: go down the stairs, Yes, And then what do I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: see down the stairs?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Downstairs? You go down and as I said, they've got
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: a little corridor, a little hallway. So there's a little hallway.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: And then on the right just tier there's just then
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: there's just a little another just a tiny tiny corridor.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: So maybe like from there from here to here, and
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: then the stairs this door just here, and then that's
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: where the secret rumors. But they've got special keys though,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: as I said, they've got big bunches of keys.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: Got it understood, You've got loads?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, if you go to mister Morris in our schools.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: If you wait till our school, so today's Friday, wait
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: till Monday or Tuesday, go to our school. Catch mister Morris,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: he's a big tall guy. Catch the whole school, to
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: catch all the all the staff there.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: What children you told us one child to speak to?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: What are the children?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Carl Sophie her lookasts Ella Derby near garbish, loads of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: other children. Loads, But me and Gabriel your.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Friends out of school? Sorry, are any of these friends
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: of yours out of school?
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: No? But Millie, Millie Caroll, she left school because she does.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: She doesn't like it. She went to Salisbury's.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Salisbury Yeah, okay, yes, but still.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Because when she went to Salisbury she thought that was
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the school. It won't do because other schools do it.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: So Hampstead of Rocky do it. So Lukes does it.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: All the Hampstead schools do it. The area and this,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: you know, the school of this tree, the school of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: this tree, that school, and then there's the school it's
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: between houses, okay, and then and then there's this between
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: houses there is yeah, and you know there's our neighbors
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: in our on our road, five Patterson Road up there
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: this his old house and just go up and just
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: that there's this. We've got a neighbor. She's Russian and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: she's in it. She's in it because she comes to
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: her the school. Because she's got two sons, one just
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: a tiny baby. It's Russian though. His name is Misha, yes,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: and the other one is called.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Alexander. Is it yes? Yes?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, his really his real name is his name is Sasha,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: but they call him Alexander. Yes, so then they that
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: family they do they do it, they have I don't
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: know what the school is called, but it's just you know,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: you know tesco next to this parish church. Yes, yes,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: the tesco. And then just like when you go there,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: there's this this just this just this station and you
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: just go down and down and then you can see
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: the post office there and you go straight down and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: it's on the right. You can see this little road
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: and then you go there and after they're there, and
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: after there's the school. You know, the school between there, Yes,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: that school that's where they go. That's the school, Pedophile school.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, well, have a little break, it's all right, I mean,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: me and courage just have a quick church see if
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: there's anything else we're going to cover, because I know
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: it's late and I don't want you to getting too
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: tired because it's been a long day.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Well, folks, has about as much as mastmach and take
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: for the evening again, they ken, it says. Reading from
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: the caption, it says, this is part one interviewed by
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: child A discusses allegations of large child abuse ring in Hampstead,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: London that was allegedly covered up by police. And courts.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: Two children, Elisa and Gabriel, made detailed allegations in twenty
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: fourteen of being sexually abused by over one hundred people,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: including teachers and members of a satanic cult. However, police
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: did not properly investigate or arrest any subjects. While a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: doctor found injuries consistent with abuse, a judge ruled these
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: claims were baseless without considering failures in the police investigation.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: The judge was probably in on it. The mother of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: the children has not seen them since twenty fifteen. Supporters
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: demand a proper police investigation into the children's original claims
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: of abuse. I'm just going to take it because they
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: said that the children were removed from the mother, that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: they placed them, because this is an inside job, people,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: this is an inside job. They were probably placed with
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: the father and full time, and God only knows what
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: happened to him after that. It does make me think
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: of John Bennet of the Christmas Party and as if
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: I needed any more proof that these socialites get up
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: to this shit. The elite of society was in attendance
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: to this fucking Christmas party with the John Benet situation.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: As if I needed any more proof that I know
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: exactly what happened. This little girl brings it all the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: way home. Stuff of nightmarees people, stuff of nightmares. Again,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: nobody went down for the McMartin case either, nobody went
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: down for the presidio case. And these children, my God,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: God to have mercianas. Oh. I want to know your thoughts, though,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Your thoughts are feelings, your opinions on this English McMuffin case.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: What the hell do you think? There never will be justice? No, no, no,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: no no, there will never be justice people. And it's
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: this is why I'm homeschooling. You better believe it.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Baby.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to homeschool if he can join a club,
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: all right, if he needs some social interaction with my supervision.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: And you might call me a helicopter parent or whatever
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: you wish, but it's better than somebody ripping and running
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: through my baby's bee hole. Yeah, you better believe it. Anyways,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: your thoughts, your feelings, your pensions in the comments section.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: I'll be checking them out. Thanks for hanging with me today, folks.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: This was another nasty one, just stomach turning, but again,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: thanks for listening, Thanks for being here. I love each
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: and every one of you and I will catch you
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: on the next one way wars.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Grinding up the distance on my side, grew down and
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: just stop by the night. Then she stood in the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: doorway with the mission map. I was thinking to myself,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: this could be happening, and this could be there. Then
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: she lived up Agendom, and then she showed me the way.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: There were bosses down the horny door.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna livesay, Welcome to.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: The Hotel California.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: It's such a love, because such a love places such
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: a love of things