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Murder In Moscow: The White Hyundai Elantra And The Gas Station Clerk · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. As
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Speaker 1: we're all aware at this point, the police are looking
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Speaker 1: for a white Hyundai Elantra between the years of 2011
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Speaker 1: and 2013. Well, a gas station attendant up in Moscow
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Speaker 1: believes that she saw this kind of vehicle, a sedan,
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Speaker 1: resembling what the police are looking for and has now
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Speaker 1: turned over hours of footage, surveillance footage, to the investigators.
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Speaker 1: Up until now, we had not heard about anyone else
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Speaker 1: possibly spotting this vehicle, at least not publicly. I'm sure
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Speaker 1: the investigators are getting a bunch of tips, and that's
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Speaker 1: how they were led to this vehicle in the first place.
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Speaker 1: But as far as we know, this is the first
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Speaker 1: public commentary, the first public sighting by a witness, if
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Speaker 1: you will. Now, we have to remember, we don't know
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Speaker 1: if it was this vehicle that was seen in this footage,
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Speaker 1: If it was a Hyundai Elantra seen in this footage,
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Speaker 1: I was looking at the still a little bit and
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Speaker 1: it kind of looks like a hatchback. Now, let me
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Speaker 1: add to that. I'm certainly not an expert in cars.
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Speaker 1: I'm lucky I can put gas in my car. So
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Speaker 1: me taking a look at it and saying, oh, it
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Speaker 1: looks like a hatchback really carries no weight. But that's
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Speaker 1: where we're at. And as far as evidence, that's what
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Speaker 1: we have publicly that's been provided to us. And now
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Speaker 1: there's a tip or a possible tip in this direction.
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Speaker 1: So let's see what law and crime and author Colin
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Speaker 1: Kambacher have come up with. Headline, State police obtained surveillance
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Speaker 1: footage that could provide key insight into car being sought
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Speaker 1: in University of Idaho student murder case. This article was
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Speaker 1: authored by Colin Kambacher. Police on Tuesday reportedly obtained extensive
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Speaker 1: surveillance footage from a gas station in the rural college
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Speaker 1: town of Moscow, where four University of Idaho students were
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Speaker 1: murdered in early November. So that's promising, right? Even if
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Speaker 1: it turns out to be nothing, it means that people
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Speaker 1: are paying attention. And these are the kind of people
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Speaker 1: that you want paying attention. Gas station clerks, people that
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Speaker 1: are working overnight hours, people that might have been, you know,
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Speaker 1: doing a delivery or something like that. Those are the
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Speaker 1: kind of people that might have seen something. And if
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Speaker 1: you were in that area around this time, working, or
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Speaker 1: you had a surveillance camera, if you haven't turned it
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Speaker 1: over to the police yet, what are you waiting for?
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Speaker 1: Because these are the kind of tips that are tangible.
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Speaker 1: Even if they don't turn out, even if it ends
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Speaker 1: up being a different car, these are the sort of
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Speaker 1: tips that could end up blowing the case wide open. Now,
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Speaker 1: we all know it's not going to be solved in
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Speaker 1: a chat room or anything like that. And as I've
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Speaker 1: said many times before, our best hope for bringing the
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Speaker 1: person or persons responsible for this to justice is these investigators.
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Speaker 1: According to Fox News, the footage in question spans more
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Speaker 1: than eight hours. The relevant segment, at least for now,
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Speaker 1: is said to have been recorded around 3.45 a.m. on
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Speaker 1: the night of the homicidal stabbing. In that clip, a
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Speaker 1: white sedan drives past the gas station in question. An
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Speaker 1: image of the car from the footage can be seen
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Speaker 1: reflected onto an image of a cellular phone and shows
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Speaker 1: a white car driving at night, clearly denoted by its
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Speaker 1: strong and visible headlights. Now again, when you look at
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Speaker 1: this still, shoot me some emails and tell me what
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Speaker 1: you think, but I kind of think it looks like
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Speaker 1: a hatchback. Late last week, police in the until recently
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Speaker 1: sleepy community said that a white 2011-2013 Hyundai Elantra was
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Speaker 1: seen in the area on the night the students were
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Speaker 1: stabbed to death. No pictures of the actual vehicle singled
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Speaker 1: out by police have yet to be made available. So
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Speaker 1: that leads me to believe that they might have gotten
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Speaker 1: a tip that this is the vehicle or a vehicle
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Speaker 1: that might be relevant to their investigation, but they don't
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Speaker 1: have an actual picture of the actual car that they're
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Speaker 1: looking for. That's why they use the stock footage. The
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Speaker 1: surveillance footage from the gas station may offer the first
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Speaker 1: glimpse of the vehicle that has elicited investigators' attention. During
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Speaker 1: an interview with the network, the overnight assistant manager said
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Speaker 1: that she has slowly been reviewing surveillance footage over the
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Speaker 1: past few days during her moments of downtime, and I'm
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Speaker 1: guessing there's plenty of those in Moscow on an overnight shift,
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Speaker 1: especially right now. Under normal circumstances, I'm sure you have
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Speaker 1: a bunch of, you know, drunken college kids bouncing in,
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Speaker 1: buying whatever the hell they have to buy before they
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Speaker 1: head home or whatever. But right now, my guess is
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Speaker 1: things are pretty calm and she has a little bit
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Speaker 1: of time to go through that footage and maybe find
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Speaker 1: something that's relevant. I had a weird feeling to go
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Speaker 1: and get the cameras. The employee, who is being kept
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Speaker 1: anonymous out of concerns for her safety, told Fox News.
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Speaker 1: After the discovery, she reportedly said, she contacted police by
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Speaker 1: way of a tip line set up specifically to deal
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Speaker 1: with the mysterious murders. And I don't blame her for
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Speaker 1: wanting to remain anonymous. If this person's still running around
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Speaker 1: in the community, who's to say that they're not going
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Speaker 1: to come after her? I know it's not likely, but
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Speaker 1: who the hell wants to roll the dice, right? The
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Speaker 1: employee also said that the car drove by real quick,
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Speaker 1: before turning down a side street that runs off Highway 8.
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Speaker 1: The perhaps pivotal update comes in a case that has,
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Speaker 1: for many of those intimately involved, moved achingly slow. And
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Speaker 1: while I don't see it moving achingly slow, like some
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Speaker 1: other people might, I just have a big problem with
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Speaker 1: the communication. And I've said this time and time again.
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Speaker 1: But homicide cases, under the best circumstances, they move slowly.
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Speaker 1: But there usually is some movement. If there's something going
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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, or there's a suspect that might
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Speaker 1: be in the crosshairs, there's always a whiff of that.
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Speaker 1: And we haven't seen anything like that here, and considering
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Speaker 1: it's such a small town, you know people talk. So
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that if there was a person of interest
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Speaker 1: or a suspect, even if they hadn't mentioned publicly, there
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Speaker 1: would be rumor of that already. But as far as
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Speaker 1: moving slow, I wouldn't exactly say that. And I've said
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Speaker 1: several times here on the podcast before that this might
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Speaker 1: end up being a slow grind. The wheels of justice
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Speaker 1: always they grind slowly. So let's hope that's not the
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Speaker 1: case here. But I hope everybody is prepared for that
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Speaker 1: because the police just they can't come up with evidence.
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Speaker 1: If there's nothing there that's going to lead them to
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Speaker 1: the killer or the killers, then there won't be anything there.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think we've gotten to that point yet.
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Speaker 1: The police still have so much to go through. We're
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Speaker 1: just getting back forensic evidence. And there's a long way
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Speaker 1: to go here. During the early morning hours of November 13th, 2022,
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Speaker 1: University of Idaho students Ethan Chapin, Zanna Kernodle, Kaylee Gonsalves,
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Speaker 1: and Madison Mogan were stabbed to death at an off-campus
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Speaker 1: housing in the tiny college-focused community. Some, but not all
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Speaker 1: of them were killed as they slept, according to the
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Speaker 1: Latah County coroner. Now, remember, we've heard that they were
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Speaker 1: all sleeping when they were killed. Then we have heard, oh,
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Speaker 1: they weren't sleeping. Some were sleeping. So it's all over
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Speaker 1: the place still. And that's why I keep posting the
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Speaker 1: official press release provided to us by the Moscow Police Department.
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Speaker 1: That way we can at least attempt to try and
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Speaker 1: make heads or tails of what the hell's going on here.
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Speaker 1: The three young women live together in the three-story house
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Speaker 1: that has long been home for class after class of
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Speaker 1: university students in the area. Chapin, Kernodle's boyfriend, was sleeping
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Speaker 1: over on the night in question. Two other roommates who
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Speaker 1: were asleep on the first floor were left untouched by
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Speaker 1: the killer or killers. Gonsalves' father, Steve Gonsalves, who has
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Speaker 1: frequently criticized law enforcement, called police cowards on Monday for
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Speaker 1: the small amount of information shared. also remarking upon the
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Speaker 1: size of the wounds his daughter sustained and speculating about
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Speaker 1: the culprit. Police in Moscow recently said investigators believe the
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Speaker 1: occupants of the Elantra may have critical information to share.
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Speaker 1: Public details about the case are all but negligible. Local
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Speaker 1: authorities have acknowledged the slow-moving pace of the investigation so
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Speaker 1: far and eventually backed off of, and vacillated about previous
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Speaker 1: statements about the extent to which the victims themselves were
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Speaker 1: targeted in the shocking, unusual, quadruple homicide. That's what we
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Speaker 1: call poor messaging. That's what we call mismanaged messaging. And
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Speaker 1: it's still haunting them and plaguing them a month later.
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Speaker 1: It is presently unclear if the car on the gas
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Speaker 1: station footage is in fact the Elantra that the police
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Speaker 1: are after. According to Fox News, Moscow police spokesperson, Robbie Johnson,
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Speaker 1: could not confirm if the two cars are one and
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Speaker 1: the same, but continued to urge the public for any
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Speaker 1: help they can give. Well, that sounds a lot different
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Speaker 1: than what we heard from Mr. Lanier earlier, right? Where
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Speaker 1: he was just absolutely adamant that there was a bunch
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Speaker 1: of dumb tips coming in and it was impeding his investigation.
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Speaker 1: If you saw anything that night that looked strange, She told,
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Speaker 1: the network. Now, of course, that means people who were
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Speaker 1: in the relevant areas. That doesn't mean Joe Blow, who
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Speaker 1: was hanging out down in Manhattan when this was going
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Speaker 1: on and decides, oh yeah, I know what happened. Let
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Speaker 1: me send some information into the police or taking a
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Speaker 1: snapshot of some Instagram post or something like that. That's ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: You don't think the police are scouring the internet right now,
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Speaker 1: looking at social media especially? Of course they are. So
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Speaker 1: that's the kind of repetitive stuff that they want to avoid.
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Speaker 1: But if you were in the area and you saw
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Speaker 1: something go down, or you might have saw something, or
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Speaker 1: you think you saw something, they want to talk to you.
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Speaker 1: When we get that information, even if it's small, sometimes
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Speaker 1: it can piece together into The timeline, put those puzzle
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Speaker 1: pieces together and we get a greater, bigger picture of
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Speaker 1: what was going on. And that's the goal, right? Put
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Speaker 1: that puzzle together and find the person or persons responsible.
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Speaker 1: So let's hope that this footage from the gas station
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Speaker 1: pans out and it was actually the white Elantra that
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Speaker 1: they're looking for. All right, folks, that's going to do
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