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Football at Four: Examining Eagles Big Win Over the Buccaneers the Day After · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Siriani and you heard him right here on the Sports
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  Speaker 1: Bats Live. You know, he got asked about aj He said,
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: he's very important to our team. He wants to contribute
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  Speaker 1: to the wins, no question. His desire to want to
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  Speaker 1: be here is what Sirianni said as the start of
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: that thing. Now, one question. Now he is still talking.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently we cut it a little short there because Jeff
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  Speaker 1: Mosher is in the stream yard now and on the
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  Speaker 1: radio here at ninety seven three ESPN it's football at four,
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  Speaker 1: And I did not hear anybody ask about Jalen Hurts. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Martin Frank just asked a question about his first half
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  Speaker 1: to his second half and his first half in La
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  Speaker 1: versus second half in La. But most I want to
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  Speaker 1: start off with the question like nobody asked yesterday, But
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  Speaker 1: did Jalen Hurts look like he should have been playing
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  Speaker 1: in the game in the second half after he took
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: that shot he could barely get to his feet.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to say. Then then you get
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: into speculation he did. He was slow to get up,
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  Speaker 2: he took some the shots. It was also though, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, the league has people looking at.
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  Speaker 2: This, reviewing it from up top and nobody signaled for
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  Speaker 2: him to come to the side or get checked out.
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  Speaker 3: He spoke after the game.
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  Speaker 2: So sometimes you know, if you're suffering from percussion and
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  Speaker 2: showing symptoms, even if they didn't see it on the
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  Speaker 2: sideline after the game, they'll withhold you from speaking to
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  Speaker 2: the media. You'll get whatever treatment as you start to
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  Speaker 2: get into the protocol.
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  Speaker 3: And that didn't seem to happen. He spoke today.
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  Speaker 2: Look, the big giveaway will be if he's not in
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  Speaker 2: a concussion protocol tomorrow, then he didn't have a concussion,
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  Speaker 2: because they're certainly not going to be like, oh, in retrospect,
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  Speaker 2: he had a concussion, but let's not put him on
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  Speaker 2: the concussion protocol to save the leagues and are behind.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well, then I let's you know, and I'm not saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is wrong, but then because to me, he went
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  Speaker 1: fifteen to sixteen in the first half, he was oh
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  Speaker 1: of eight and the second half and he wasn't close.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was all over the place yesterday. And
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that Sirianni brought up is his
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  Speaker 1: efficiency and you know all that stuff. Well, he was
• 2:02
  Speaker 1: inefficient in the second and he didn't look like he
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  Speaker 1: was in the same stratosphere as the player he was
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  Speaker 1: in first, was that something that Tampa did well.
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  Speaker 3: They certainly made an adjustment, Like.
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  Speaker 2: I almost feel like they walked into a buzzsaw a
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  Speaker 2: little bit because two things. One, they always blitz that's
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  Speaker 2: what Todd Bowles does. That's what he always does, and
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  Speaker 2: he does it well against the Eagles. But the Eagles
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  Speaker 2: of him getting blitzed a lot the first three weeks,
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  Speaker 2: so they've seen it quite a bit, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams went out of carrot.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about this last week.
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  Speaker 2: The Rams blitz at twelve percent going into the game
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  Speaker 2: against the Eagles, and they blitzed around forty percent. So
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  Speaker 2: I almost felt like Todd did a little bit too much,
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  Speaker 2: almost tried too hard because he the Eagles were expecting it,
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  Speaker 2: and they built their offense around expecting it, and it
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  Speaker 2: set up a ton of one on ones for the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles to find. Right and then in the second half,
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  Speaker 2: Todd Bowles stopped blitzing. He showed it a lot of times,
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  Speaker 2: but he basically rushed three and four and dropped guys
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  Speaker 2: the coverage, which was a major adjustment and something that
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles I think didn't do a great job in
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  Speaker 2: total of adjusting to now.
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  Speaker 3: There were still opportunities as you're talking.
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  Speaker 2: About, and Hurts missed on a couple of one on
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  Speaker 2: ones on the outside that it usually hits.
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  Speaker 3: But I think you also have to a.
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  Speaker 2: Factor that the second half was about what two thirty
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  Speaker 2: three o'clock, that's when the sun's at its hottest. They
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  Speaker 2: were reporting that the Eagles sideline was really blazing in
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  Speaker 2: the second right at the start of the second half,
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that had something to do with that.
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  Speaker 3: I really don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We also have seen this offense do this quite often
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  Speaker 2: in the in games over the last year and a
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  Speaker 2: half to two years, where they are unstoppable for a
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  Speaker 2: half and don't have a clue for another half.
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  Speaker 1: So there's the one sequence where he throws the ball
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  Speaker 1: to AJ three straight plays. None of them were close.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on in that sequence? There is
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  Speaker 1: that him trying to appease AJ? Is that him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have anybody so let me try to get I
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  Speaker 1: mean one of them he throws it to two buccaneers essentially.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I think that that was a little
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  Speaker 2: bit that was in the second.
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  Speaker 3: Half of I'm not mistaken right, yeah, yep, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean in what the Bucks were doing where they're
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  Speaker 2: showing blitz.
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  Speaker 3: So you think you got that.
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  Speaker 2: One on one and Aj is your one on one guy, right,
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  Speaker 2: Aj and DeVante, But then right at the snap they
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  Speaker 2: drop guys in the coverage, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then what you thought was there is not there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm actually going to go take a look after this
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  Speaker 2: those three particular plays and see if I notice that.
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  Speaker 3: That was the case.
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  Speaker 2: But I know that that was going on in the
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  Speaker 2: second half quite a bit, and it's very possible that
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  Speaker 2: it was just the adjustment that was difficult for the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles to kind of counteract to.
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  Speaker 1: What is your take on Aj Brown and what you
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  Speaker 1: know has transpired. That's the first question that Nick gets today.
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  Speaker 1: Very important to our team. He wants to contribute, no question,
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  Speaker 1: his desire to want to be here. But when you
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  Speaker 1: see what Aj has done is just just a it's Aj,
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  Speaker 1: He's a wide receiver. This happens or is there something
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  Speaker 1: big going on here?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's it's not the first time that you know,
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  Speaker 2: Aj has either said something or tweeted something, or you know,
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  Speaker 2: and he's clearly been frustrated. I think Nick said in
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  Speaker 2: the press conference today something that made a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: He said, you know, these games have reminded us a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of the first four games of last year,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously they were.
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  Speaker 3: There were two and two last year and now they
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  Speaker 3: are four and oh.
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  Speaker 2: But there were some pitfalls and some obvious frustrations there
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  Speaker 2: last year that I think you're seeing this year. But
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles tend to win. They tend to kind of
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  Speaker 2: reverse it, and we'll have to see. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: AJ's not the only one either that was echoing some frustration,
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  Speaker 2: because Johan Dotson tweeted also something like something to the
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  Speaker 2: effective offense shouldn't be this hard. So obviously the wide
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  Speaker 2: receivers are are frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: There's there's no question that they are.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm sure everybody on the offense is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit frustrated by their Jekyl and Hydak that's been going on.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know this goes you know, they're up
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  Speaker 1: by eighteen in the game yesterday, and at that point
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  Speaker 1: do the Eagles say, you got to score three touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: against us. So we're just going to be ultra conservative.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna do anything to give you the ball.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, Tampa fumbled Philly scored a touchdown, Tampa
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  Speaker 1: threw an interception, and Philly ended up punting the ball
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  Speaker 1: down on the other end of the field and making
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  Speaker 1: Tampa go back down the other end. So where they
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  Speaker 1: just say, look, you're three scores behind us, we are
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  Speaker 1: not taking any chances.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, you know, I hope not. I mean, I can't imagine. Well,
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  Speaker 2: all right, let's break that down. Yes, I do think
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  Speaker 2: that having that kind of lead maybe taught them, should
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  Speaker 2: teach them a lesson now that you stay aggressive. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted them to stay aggressive, come out passing. They did pass,
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  Speaker 2: but like you were saying they were, he was wildly
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  Speaker 2: off the mark there. But if there's a lesson to
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  Speaker 2: be learned and said, you got to keep your foot
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  Speaker 2: on the pedal here, especially on the road against good teams,
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  Speaker 2: and not let up and not think that you have
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  Speaker 2: it and don't. You're still a working progress yourself offensively.
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  Speaker 2: If you're the Eagles, right, you haven't played a complete
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  Speaker 2: game offensively all year. So if you're up like two touchdowns, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and the fourth quarter, sure, but in the third quarter,
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  Speaker 2: you still gotta get your passing game going. You still
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  Speaker 2: gotta put your your pedal to the metal, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: You can't let up.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeff Boscher Football at four for the Inside
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  Speaker 1: of the Birds podcast. So I don't I mean, some
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  Speaker 1: people are talking about how frustrating this offense is. Similar
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  Speaker 1: conversations last year, right, and then they had the Carolina game?
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with the offense passing the next week? Is
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  Speaker 1: that what you all wanted to see? Do we think
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  Speaker 1: that this offense has similar issues to last year? Do
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  Speaker 1: they even have issues?
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  Speaker 3: Mike?
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  Speaker 2: I hate to make this sound so like repetitive the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that we have, but can you tell me I
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  Speaker 2: don't know anytime in the last three four years that
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  Speaker 2: the offense hasn't gone through this kind of haven't we
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  Speaker 2: had this conversation pretty much all the time, Like I know,
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  Speaker 2: I even remember saying to you last week that you
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  Speaker 2: hit it on the head when you tell people that
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  Speaker 2: the last thing they remember is what they remember the most,
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  Speaker 2: and the Super Bowl happens to be going into this
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  Speaker 2: year the last thing people remember.
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  Speaker 3: But this is what the offenses look like. The only
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  Speaker 3: thing that's missing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay is that The next question, Okay, that's a big thing,
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  Speaker 1: But the next question is then how long can you
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  Speaker 1: sustain this without the Browns and then the other guy saying, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: enough enough, I want mine.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's a really good question.
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  Speaker 1: So is that what they're fighting here? Okay, you're winning,
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  Speaker 1: you've won twenty out of twenty one, you're winning every game,
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  Speaker 1: but your guys are saying I want more.
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  Speaker 3: That is not the nature of guys. I mean, usually
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  Speaker 3: guys just want to win.
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  Speaker 2: And even AJ Brown has just talked about wanting to win,
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  Speaker 2: but he wants to contribute. I can't imagine that we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna go fo or five more straight games where AJ
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  Speaker 2: Brown's a non factor.
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  Speaker 3: But I got to admit I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Think we would be four weeks into the season without
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  Speaker 2: Sakuon Barkley having a big run. It's tough because the
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  Speaker 2: first half was so good, man, he was fifteen to sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Everything was working well, and we're really just talking about
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  Speaker 2: eight throws in the second half.
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  Speaker 3: I just looked at those three straight throws to.
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  Speaker 2: AJ Brown while I was talking to you on NFL,
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  Speaker 2: and honestly, there was nothing disguised.
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  Speaker 3: Just two throws were just overthrows.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was open, and they weren't the biggest
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  Speaker 2: overthrows but they were overthrows. So you know, I have
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  Speaker 2: a feeling that they're gonna play a game in the
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  Speaker 2: next two or three weeks and aj Brown's gonna get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of touches and score a touchdown and things
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  Speaker 2: will be good for at least a few weeks until
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  Speaker 2: it's not. I'm as curious as everybody else, Mike God,
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  Speaker 2: but I can't get past the fact that if.
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  Speaker 3: Won twenty of twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote this as my first observation after the win yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Is that we can be very nitpicky on certain things,
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  Speaker 3: or even justifiably concerned some things. But I know for
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: a lot of Eagles fans what their.
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  Speaker 2: Parents and grandparents used to tell them about what it's
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  Speaker 2: like being an Eagles fan and all the heartbreaking losses
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  Speaker 2: and all the letdowns. And this team has won twenty
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  Speaker 2: of the last twenty one games. I mean, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: almost equivalent to what the Dolphins did and you know
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  Speaker 2: before I was born, right, and what the Patriots nearly did.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they won that many, they just didn't finish
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  Speaker 2: it off with a super Bowl. But the Eagles are
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  Speaker 2: coming off a super Bowl, so in some regard, I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, those people who are really furious have to
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  Speaker 2: kind of take a step back and realize they're watching
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  Speaker 2: the greatest football the Eagles have played ever in their lifetime.
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  Speaker 1: How much does that twenty twenty three collapse enter into
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  Speaker 1: this conversation, do you think?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I've been listening to your show today. I
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  Speaker 3: know you and Pete and others.
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  Speaker 2: I'm talking about it and a lot of people are,
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  Speaker 2: and I think that there's got to be in middle
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  Speaker 2: ground there. I mean, I think it's perfectly acceptable and
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  Speaker 2: valid to say if you look at this Eagles defense
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  Speaker 2: compared to that Eagles defense and what was going on
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  Speaker 2: and the instibility.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense is definitely a different is a different
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  Speaker 1: thing here, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then the overall talent is better. There's just no question
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  Speaker 2: about it. And this is a tough schedule they're in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of and you know they're four and oh,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess what I'm saying is the other
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  Speaker 2: way to look at it is maybe they're not.
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  Speaker 3: Going to win the Super Bowl this year. We'll see.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I don't see them losing six
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  Speaker 2: out of seven games.
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  Speaker 3: Do you as bad as things have been?
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  Speaker 1: I said earlier, Look, you went to Kansas City and won.
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  Speaker 1: And look that by the way, they won at Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City in twenty twenty three as well, and they went
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  Speaker 1: to Buffalo and one before it fell a part, you
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  Speaker 1: went to Tampa, a place you've really struggled and won
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  Speaker 1: that game. You beat the Rams here. I mean those
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: are three teams that all are playoff quality opponents. I mean,
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Dallas is in the division, it's opening night, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of emotion, and you find a way to win
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  Speaker 1: that game. So they have four pretty impressive wins so
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  Speaker 1: far to start this year off. But they had impressive
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  Speaker 1: wins in that twenty twenty three year and it was
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  Speaker 1: like they're finding ways to win. The good teams find
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  Speaker 1: ways to win it no matter what it takes. And
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  Speaker 1: a Ceedee Lamb drops that pass and Kelsey drops a pass,
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  Speaker 1: and you needed a block field goal this week you
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: got a block pun At what point does that run out?
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  Speaker 1: And your offense has to carry you And I guess
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  Speaker 1: people are wondering if the offense is going to be
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  Speaker 1: there when they need it. And last year, Jalen says,
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  Speaker 1: is that what you all wanted to see? It was
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  Speaker 1: there when they needed it.
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  Speaker 3: It was Now does that happen every year. I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: but I mean, you go look at the Ravens. They
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  Speaker 3: were my number one team going into this year. I
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: thought they were.
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  Speaker 2: Gonna be the best team, and they have real, real issues.
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  Speaker 2: They can't win and finish these games. In fact, they're
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  Speaker 2: blowing leads left and right, and then they go and
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  Speaker 2: lose to a Kansas City team that they just gave
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: life back to the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 3: You look at the Bills. The Bills are four.
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  Speaker 2: And oh the only other team that's four and oh right.
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  Speaker 2: They gave up twenty one points to a Dolphins team
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  Speaker 2: that's bad, and they give up forty points to the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: So as dominant as they are, I'm sure somebody in
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  Speaker 2: their building, I'm sure their most critical fans are like,
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  Speaker 2: how are you giving up forty points? You know in
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  Speaker 2: the season opener at home? How are you giving up
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  Speaker 2: twenty one to the Dolphins? There's They're pass rush isn't great.
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  Speaker 2: So you can nitpick about even the You always can
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  Speaker 2: nitpick about the best teams. And I hate using the
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  Speaker 2: word nitpick because that makes it sound like I'm minimizing
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  Speaker 2: the complaints.
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  Speaker 3: The complaints are real here, you know, the Eagles have
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  Speaker 3: no running game right now, and that's not good.
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  Speaker 2: Their pass rush from the edges has not been great,
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  Speaker 2: but they seem to have a good response for the
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  Speaker 2: issues that they're having, whereas when they went into the
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  Speaker 2: tailspin they had no answers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as long as the team doesn't get hit by
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: a rash of injuries, then I think they'll be okay.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Moshes back on Wednesday, will dive deeper into it.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get more on that, of course, and Football at
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• 13:47
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  Speaker 1: take care of Mike Ye.