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Full Show Podcast: 30 July 2025 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on
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  Speaker 1: early edition with ex pol insulation keeping Kimi Holmes warm
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  Speaker 1: and dry. This winter news talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be good morning. It is six after five. Great
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  Speaker 2: to have your company on a Wednesday. Rob Campbell this
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  Speaker 2: morning before six on the nurses strike, nets all kicking
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  Speaker 2: off in a couple of hours time. We'll go to
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  Speaker 2: the UK. Kirs Starmer's got an ultimatum for Israel on Palestine,
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  Speaker 2: a new home for netball this morning. We'll tell you where, why,
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  Speaker 2: when and will it mean the players are paid less?
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  Speaker 2: Deals are plenty as well. If you're switching banks and
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  Speaker 2: we've got some new numbers. There are records well highest
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  Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen in terms of switching banks and trying
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  Speaker 2: to get a deal at the moment. We'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: totality about that shortly.
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  Speaker 1: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the thirtieth of July. The UK Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister so Kirstarm has just finished an emergency UN meeting
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  Speaker 2: on Gaza today.
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  Speaker 3: As part of this process towards peace, I can confirm
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  Speaker 3: the UK will recognize the State of Palestine by the
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  Speaker 3: United Nations General Assembly in September unless the Israeli government
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  Speaker 3: takes substantive steps to end the appalling situation in Gaza,
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  Speaker 3: agree to a cease fire and commit to a long
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  Speaker 3: term sustainable peace, reviving the prospect of a two state solution.
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  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the question are they starving? Are they not starving
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza? Trump says yes, Nitnya who still says no.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got international journalists unable to freely report inside Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: But the reporters now saying they can actually see the
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  Speaker 2: starvation even from the year.
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  Speaker 4: I've spent ten minutes looking at it with my own eyes,
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  Speaker 4: and I can tell you that communities in the north
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  Speaker 4: of Gaza that I.
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  Speaker 2: Do well.
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  Speaker 5: Are black. There's nothing left of them.
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  Speaker 2: Israel still denies this.
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  Speaker 5: There is a lay delay is the servation policies which
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  Speaker 5: the international media is cooperating with.
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  Speaker 2: Another assassination style shootings in New York City. Four people
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  Speaker 2: have died and after this is after a gunment open
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  Speaker 2: fire in a skyscraper in Manhattan, then shot himself. The
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  Speaker 2: shooter with twenty seven years old Shane Timura, stormed into
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  Speaker 2: the NFL headquarters, took the wrong lift, but still carried
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  Speaker 2: out an attack. He left a note blaming the NFL
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  Speaker 2: for a brain disease linked to head injuries, saying it
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  Speaker 2: ruined his mind.
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  Speaker 6: According to our law enforcement partners in Las Vegas, mister
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  Speaker 6: Tremora has a documented mental health history. His motives are
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  Speaker 6: still under investigation and we are working to understand why
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  Speaker 6: he targeted this particular location.
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  Speaker 2: If you're looking to have kids anytime soon, then you
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  Speaker 2: might want to go to China to have them. This
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  Speaker 2: is interesting why parents there are being offered nearly nine
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  Speaker 2: hundred New Zealand dollars a year for each of their
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  Speaker 2: children under the age of three. They hope to boost
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  Speaker 2: the birth rates, which is surely a sign that the
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  Speaker 2: one child policy was a bit of a flob.
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  Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines on an early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Branch and ex fole insulation keeping Kiwi Holmes warm
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  Speaker 1: and dry.
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  Speaker 2: This winter news talks. He'd been nine after five. So
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  Speaker 2: with this legislation for the voters, you know, going out
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  Speaker 2: and casting doing your democratic duty. I see that the
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  Speaker 2: past first reading on Tuesday afternoon in the house. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this for a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: because I wasn't sure how I felt about it. But
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  Speaker 2: now I know how I feel about it, I will
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  Speaker 2: share it with you. If you are a lazy person
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  Speaker 2: and you want to enroll on the same day that
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  Speaker 2: you vote, that should be up to you. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you should be stopping people because society is filled
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  Speaker 2: with It takes all sorts, doesn't it. Some of us
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  Speaker 2: are really efficient onto it, we put stuff in our diaries.
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  Speaker 2: Others are just lazy. Now, should you get paid the
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  Speaker 2: doll just because you're a lazy person, No, because that's
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  Speaker 2: everybody's money. But should you be able to if you're
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  Speaker 2: lazy or forgetful or your moved household. There's a whole
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  Speaker 2: bunch of reasons why you might need to enroll late,
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  Speaker 2: but you shouldn't be excluded from democracy just because of
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  Speaker 2: that reason. So I think this is a backward step.
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  Speaker 2: And also, what's the cost? I mean you had? This
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  Speaker 2: is what Paul Goldsmith had to say.
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  Speaker 7: Said.
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  Speaker 2: We had the Electoral Commission on the one hand with
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  Speaker 2: a message saying get and rolled, get and rolled, and
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  Speaker 2: they were funded with many millions of dollars to encourage
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  Speaker 2: people to enroll, which is what the law says you
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  Speaker 2: should do. But on the other hand they were also saying,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, don't bother because you can just rock
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  Speaker 2: up on election day and vote. Now, I think you
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  Speaker 2: should be able to do both. You should be able
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  Speaker 2: to do it early if you want to, or later
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  Speaker 2: if you want to, and be lazy if you want to.
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  Speaker 2: Because at the end of the day, the fact that
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  Speaker 2: we live in a democracy is a great thing. But
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  Speaker 2: we all need to be able to take part, whether
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  Speaker 2: we're lazy or whether we're highly motivated individuals, because the
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  Speaker 2: legitimacy of a democracy comes from everybody being involved. So
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  Speaker 2: the more you try to share, And what is the cost?
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  Speaker 2: What an extra week counting the votes? I mean, does
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  Speaker 2: that going to will the sky fall in? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. So I'm not really in favor of what
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  Speaker 2: the government's trying to do. They're the prisoners. Well, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in prison, so that doesn't affect me. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really particularly concerned. But for late voting and for
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting your enrollment done on time, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: quite sure it's the right road to be going down. Personally.
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  Speaker 2: Eleven minutes after five and ninety ninety two is the
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  Speaker 2: number to text coming up next. If you're refinancing at
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  Speaker 2: the moment your mortgage you are certainly not alone, highest
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  Speaker 2: numbers since twenty seventeen doing this. So where are the deals?
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  Speaker 2: Calvin Davidson from Totality next.
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  Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and ex full into keeping Keey Holmes warm
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  Speaker 1: and dry this winter news talk, said.
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  Speaker 2: Be it is five fourteen news talks. He'd be, Andy,
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  Speaker 2: says Ryan. I bet you turn up late to board
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  Speaker 2: the plane as well. Seriously, it's not that hard to
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  Speaker 2: enroll early, Andy, I no, I used to do that,
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  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I did used to be
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  Speaker 2: late to board the plane. Well, not late. I never
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  Speaker 2: held a plane up, but I would never want to
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  Speaker 2: get there early and sit in frustrated anxiety for the
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  Speaker 2: flight to be called and then for everyone to line
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  Speaker 2: up and then to board. Not my thing, Andy, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: not my thing. But in terms of voter I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a very different thing catching a plane to participating
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  Speaker 2: in democracy, and isn't it. And I think you should
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  Speaker 2: be able to get away with being a little bit
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  Speaker 2: lazy and the participation should trump the slow count in
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  Speaker 2: my view. Fourteen after five, Ryan Bridge, record numbers of
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  Speaker 2: US are refinancing our mortgages with a new bank At
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  Speaker 2: the moment. Numbers from the Reserve Bank show more than
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  Speaker 2: three and a half thousand mortgage holders switched in the
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  Speaker 2: last year. This makes it the highest rate of refinancing
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  Speaker 2: since twenty seventeen. Calvin Davidson's Totality, Chief Property Economist with
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  Speaker 2: me this morning. Calvin, good morning, Good morning. So how
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  Speaker 2: many are coming off fixed? You have all the mortgage holders,
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  Speaker 2: how many are coming off our fixed and the next
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  Speaker 2: we are.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's quite a lot.
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  Speaker 4: So well, if you start with about ten to twelve
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  Speaker 4: percent of the loans they are on fludging rates right now,
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  Speaker 4: and then if you look at perhaps the next six months,
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  Speaker 4: there's about another forty percent of debt that's on a
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  Speaker 4: fix rate now but due to rollover.
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  Speaker 7: In six months.
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  Speaker 4: So by the end of the year we're going to
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  Speaker 4: have fifty five percent of loans seeing a rate change.
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  Speaker 4: And so yeah, there's there's quite a bit of flexibility
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  Speaker 4: there at the moment, and that's the thing people have,
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  Speaker 4: the flexibility. Cash backs are being offered, So thank switching
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  Speaker 4: is looking pretty appealing to people at thelone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what are the deals that you've heard about people are.
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  Speaker 4: Getting, Well, sometimes those are having a little bit behind
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  Speaker 4: the scenes, but few anecdotes a bit of personal experience.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's reasonably common to get sort of
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  Speaker 4: point seven point eight percent of the loan as a
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  Speaker 4: cash back up to certain caps. So it can be
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  Speaker 4: a decent chunk of money if you're looking at a
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  Speaker 4: fairly large mortgage. So it considerly makes sense for people
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  Speaker 4: who are potentially under cash flow stress for sure.
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  Speaker 2: With fifty to fifty five percent, as you said, coming
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  Speaker 2: off by year end. At what point do these lower
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  Speaker 2: rates translate into higher prices for property?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, the market in general at the moment is
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  Speaker 4: we're calling it conflicting forces. So yes, ordinarily expect that
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  Speaker 4: impact of lower morgite rates to be pushing out house prices,
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  Speaker 4: and there's just a leg at the moment. I think
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  Speaker 4: that's reflecting the other side of the ledge of those
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  Speaker 4: conflicting forces, things like the weak economy and labor market.
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  Speaker 4: Even if people have kept their job, perhaps still not
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  Speaker 4: feeling as secure as they were, and so I think
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  Speaker 4: that's really holding things back. I think the second half
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  Speaker 4: of you could still be predy sejured for the market
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  Speaker 4: for those impacts of lower interest rates start to come
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  Speaker 4: through early next year. But even then it's unlikely to
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  Speaker 4: be a boom because there's still a lot of supply
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  Speaker 4: out there, and affordability isn't an't great. It's better than
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  Speaker 4: it was, but still not great. So I think we're
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  Speaker 4: looking at a flatish market.
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  Speaker 7: For a while.
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  Speaker 2: Calvin, what about the loan to value ratio limits? Are they?
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  Speaker 2: Are we getting close to? Are people getting close to
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  Speaker 2: that yet? What's the situation with that and is that
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  Speaker 2: potentially going to act as a ceiling on any future booms.
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  Speaker 4: I think the OBVI is, yeah, that's sort of doing
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  Speaker 4: this thing they're taking along. It's very tough as an
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  Speaker 4: investor to get a loan if you don't have a
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  Speaker 4: thirty percent deposit. Low deposit finance is more available for
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  Speaker 4: owner occupiers, but even then the limits aren't really being tested.
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  Speaker 4: I think the credit restraint that people are probably watching
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  Speaker 4: more closely is the debt to income ratios. Now, they're
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  Speaker 4: not necessarily doing too much either just yet, because test
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  Speaker 4: rates inside the bank's still high enough that that's what's
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  Speaker 4: kepting loan sizes. So those rates coming down is why
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  Speaker 4: the MORGIT rates come down, and that's the point at
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  Speaker 4: which those formal debt to income ratio rules.
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  Speaker 7: Will start to kicking.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that's the thing that probably limits the
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  Speaker 4: market over the medium term. And yeah, cert sector to
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  Speaker 4: Adam's net mix of I guess a cautious outlook.
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  Speaker 2: Calvin appreciate that interesting stuff. Calvin Davidson, Totality Chief Property
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  Speaker 2: Economists with us this morning eighteen minutes after five. If
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  Speaker 2: you didn't catch the start of that interview, we're talking
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that loads of us are refinancing at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, and we're switching banks are record in ut
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  Speaker 2: well since twenty seventeen, we've got the highest number of
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  Speaker 2: Kiwi switching banks for their mortgage lending. So many people
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  Speaker 2: are against the enrollment late enrollment to vault vote. I'll
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  Speaker 2: get to some of those techs in a second. Also,
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  Speaker 2: next we're going to talk about netball. It's got a
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  Speaker 2: new home and will this new home mean less money
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  Speaker 2: for our players? We'll ask that question next.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Bridge on early edition with X bowl insulation, keeping
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  Speaker 1: kiey hoes warm and try this winter news talks.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be good tech from Barbe. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 2: in a second. Twenty one after five. Now netball players
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  Speaker 2: and fans alike can breathe a sigh of relief this morning,
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  Speaker 2: the an Z Premiership has found a home for the
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  Speaker 2: next few next year's season, this time it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be free to air TV and Z. Steph Bond is
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  Speaker 2: executive manager of the Netball Players Association, joining us this morning. Steph,
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  Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning. You must be relieved that there
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  Speaker 2: is a deal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I think we are excited that it's going to be
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  Speaker 8: on TV next year and a free at your platform
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  Speaker 8: is exciting for the sport.
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  Speaker 2: Do you get more people watching on free to air
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  Speaker 2: than on Sky?
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  Speaker 8: Absolutely? I think especially for a sport like netball, when
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  Speaker 8: where there's a huge amount of people playing it at
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  Speaker 8: a community level, to have all those all those people
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  Speaker 8: over to watch it on free to air will definitely
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  Speaker 8: increase that as on the game.
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  Speaker 2: Does it mean that they have settled for a lower
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  Speaker 2: paying option with in terms of a broadcast partner.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, Look, we can't obviously answer that. You'll have to
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  Speaker 8: ask that question. That is is just I think that
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  Speaker 8: we have ideals the next year in terms of what
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  Speaker 8: it looks like.
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  Speaker 2: Now, do you know any details yet about what it
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  Speaker 2: might mean for players?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we're working through that at the moment, so we're
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  Speaker 8: embargaining with it when you're done at the moment, So
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  Speaker 8: that will now form part of the piece of what
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  Speaker 8: it may look like next year in terms of payments
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  Speaker 8: for players.
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  Speaker 2: What is the worry that players have? Is it that
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  Speaker 2: you go with TV ands and you get less money.
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  Speaker 2: There's less you know, salary or less pay for netball players.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, we are obviously having to look at that right
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  Speaker 8: now in terms of how it does in terms of
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  Speaker 8: player payments. Over the last couple of weeks, players to
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  Speaker 8: have a fairly good idea now of the picture for
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  Speaker 8: next year. So it is really sitting down for each
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  Speaker 8: individual player and looking at that and actually working out
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  Speaker 8: with a play that will is the right option for
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  Speaker 8: their next year.
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  Speaker 2: So it could come down to can I survive doing
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  Speaker 2: this or do I actually need to get another job?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that is right. I think players will have to
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  Speaker 8: look at it a little bit differently, especially for some players.
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  Speaker 8: All of our players do already work at the same time,
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  Speaker 8: so it may just been packing up a few extra hours.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it will be a little bit different
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  Speaker 8: in terms of potentially what it may look like next year.
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  Speaker 8: But I think it will still work for the majority
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  Speaker 8: of sas all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Steph, appreciate your time this morning, Steph Bond, executive
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  Speaker 2: manager at New Zealand Netball Players Association. Time is twenty
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  Speaker 2: three minutes half of five morning, Ryan says, Barb. If
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  Speaker 2: you're too lazy to enroll to vote, then you're probably
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  Speaker 2: too lazy to do any research, take any time to
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  Speaker 2: really consider the different parties in the policies. We want
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  Speaker 2: people who are engaged in the democratic process, and in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, enrolling in time is one indicator of that.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Bob, lovely to have you texting the show.
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  Speaker 2: I disagree with you. I think that might be your expectation, Barb,
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  Speaker 2: of people that they are very prepared and on the
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  Speaker 2: ball and crossing all the t's and dotting all the
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  Speaker 2: eyes and getting there on time time. But people are busy.
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  Speaker 2: People have a lot going on in their lives. They're
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  Speaker 2: stuck in traffic, that battle through a cycle way, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whatever it might be. Not everybody is the same, and
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  Speaker 2: just because you don't share the same values as the
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  Speaker 2: next person doesn't mean they shouldn't be voting. Now. The
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  Speaker 2: question is how much extra time will it add to
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  Speaker 2: account if we allow people to turn up and enroll
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  Speaker 2: on the same day that they vote. Is it a
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  Speaker 2: week and is a week worth stopping potentially up to
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand people from voting. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it justifies it personally. Twenty four after five,
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  Speaker 2: News Talks VB.
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  Speaker 1: The early edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power
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  Speaker 1: It by NEWSTALKSB News TALKSB.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty six minutes after five, Brook van Valden's anti health
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  Speaker 2: and safety crusades taken a rather bizarre twist, don't you
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  Speaker 2: think the plot twist that no one saw coming? All
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  Speaker 2: but weird. She's consulting the public on safe activities for
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  Speaker 2: kids and what they're allowed to do on farms, like
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  Speaker 2: I cad you not watering plants and collecting chicken eggs.
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  Speaker 2: It's a bit of an odd strategy, but the strategy
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  Speaker 2: seems to be there's a potential problem with the law here.
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  Speaker 2: Anyone under fifteen is technically not allowed to work on
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  Speaker 2: a working farm. You could get fine. You can find
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  Speaker 2: up to fifty thousand dollars actually, so quite a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money not to be scoffed at. But nobody's actually
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  Speaker 2: been done for letting little Johnny pick up eggs. So
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  Speaker 2: it's a potential problem, not an actual problem, and the
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  Speaker 2: minister's strategy surely is just to point out how ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: the law is in the first place. But her response
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  Speaker 2: sounds a bit off. Remember this is a minister who
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  Speaker 2: says we need to get away from over regulation, away
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  Speaker 2: from consultation, away from the nonsense. Just get let Kiwis
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  Speaker 2: get on with it, Let the businesses get on with it,
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  Speaker 2: Let the families get on with it and run their
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  Speaker 2: own lives. She's quoted as saying, we'll be consulting with
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  Speaker 2: farmers in the agricultural sector on the safety thresholds for
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  Speaker 2: light chores children can do on farms while ensuring safety
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  Speaker 2: is not compromised. I mean, what on earth? All of
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  Speaker 2: it gobbledygook. Sounds a bit unnecessary, All sounds a bit odd.
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  Speaker 2: If there's a problem, then why not just change it?
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  Speaker 2: Why consult up the wazoo through till September, then waste
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  Speaker 2: time and money on officials and advice and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: If it's a problem, then just make it go away quickly,
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  Speaker 2: Brian Bread, That would be the act thing to do,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Twenty eight minutes after five News Talk said
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  Speaker 2: b Now the Brits are joining the French and recognizing
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  Speaker 2: a Palestinian state. Well, it's an ultimatum that Keir Starmer
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  Speaker 2: has issued overnight and ultimatum to Israel. The UK will
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  Speaker 2: do this, will recognize a Palestinian state at the General
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  Speaker 2: Assembly meeting in September. French are going to do it too,
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  Speaker 2: unless the Israelis agree to a bunch of conditions, including
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: a cease fire. One hundred and forty countries have recognized
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: a palace in the estates so far. Gavin Gray out
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: of the UK on that afternoons and we will check
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: in with our reporters around the country as well, including
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Claire Schubert, who's got a good story out of christ
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Church this morning, all to do with architecture. A lot
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: of building going on in christ Church, Isn't there a
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: lot of things happening in christ Church at the moment
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: our reporters, and then Gavin Gray half five News Talk
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: said be.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: analysis earlier this with Ryan Bridge and ex Bowl Insulation
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: keeping Kiwi homes warm and dry this winter News Talks
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: at b.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes away from the six News Talk said,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: but we'll get to our reporters in just a second.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Gavin Gray out of the UK on Keir Starmer's threat
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: to Israel, which has happened overnight, also before six, the
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: nurses strike kicking off in just a couple of hours.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: We'll get to Rob Campbell on that. Ryan. This is
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: from John. I was made to work in the ball
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: shed when I was ten. I now realize on reflection,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I was a victim of chrial slave labor. I can
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: hopefully sue someone if they change the laws. Here and John,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: you're preaching to the choir here. Ryan, can all governments
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: and councils please just get the beep out of our lives?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Says Luke. It would be nice, wouldn't it. This is
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: on the lazy voters situation. Ryan, d cut you a deal.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: A lazy, inconsiderate person's vote should be worth half a vote,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So two half wits equal one vote, reflecting the value
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: that they put on the electoral system, says Simon. Right
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: twenty three away from six, Bryan breedsue to our reporters
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: around the country, Rosy Leishman's and Dunedan Rosi, good morning,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: good morning, households. There you could be looking at bigger
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: power bills.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: So.
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: The Commerce Commission is seeking feedback on new revenue limits
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: for electricity lines company Aurora, which supplies power to Dunedin,
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: Central Opago and Queenstown Lakes. Its draft decision is to
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: allow Aurora to recover up to six hundred and sixty
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: three point seven million dollars over four years. Household electricity
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: bills could increase by around ten dollars a month next year,
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: followed by three dollar increases each year after feedback is
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: due by the end of next month.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather at Rosie?
• 19:41
  Speaker 9: Cloudy periods and some southwesterlies today with the odd possibly
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: heavy shower becoming more frequent this afternoon and a high
• 19:48
  Speaker 9: of twelve degrees.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Nice one, Thanks Rosie. And clear than christ Church, Clear,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: good morning to you.
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: Good morning.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Now Open christ Church? What is it and what do
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: they want from us?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: Open christ Church is this festival It's been running for
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: several years now in christ Church. Effectively, what it does
• 20:03
  Speaker 10: is open up the doors of buildings that people may
• 20:06
  Speaker 10: or may not want to have a peek inside. Actually,
• 20:08
  Speaker 10: our building here at enzb Me and arm Street has
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: been in the open christ Church Festival. Before last year
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: we had Takaha Stadium that I went in and had
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: a look around of the stadium as part of Open
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: christ Church. Previously it's been some old buildings at Boys
• 20:22
  Speaker 10: High and things like the cathedral. Now the Open christ
• 20:25
  Speaker 10: Church team has put the call out to say, look
• 20:27
  Speaker 10: what buildings would you like to see behind the doors
• 20:30
  Speaker 10: of and they will consider them for next year's festival.
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: The key thing is the director, Jessica Halliday says, anyone
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: who does that needs to make sure that they actually
• 20:38
  Speaker 10: have permission to nominate the building from the owner or
• 20:41
  Speaker 10: kaitiaki or occupier. Obviously, without the permission to do so,
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: then they wouldn't know which nominations were serious or not.
• 20:48
  Speaker 10: But if you do have a building that you'd like
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: to see behind the doors of, you can nominate it
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: from now up until August twenty two.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I've not been to ended me off for some christ Church.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: What's so great about why would people want to see
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: inside apart from to see you your lovely self?
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: Clear?
• 21:02
  Speaker 10: Of course, of course it is the old Ministry buildings
• 21:07
  Speaker 10: building here. It's a very historic building and obviously we've
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: gutted it and then put a radio station inside it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 10: So it's one of those interesting situations where it's a
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: very old building but looks very mod and cool inside.
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: So believe it or not, they came parading through.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: There we go house you weather well, Claudy.
• 21:22
  Speaker 10: A bit of showers on the forecast today could be
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: a thunderstorm with HAILO bit later to southwesterlies and the
• 21:27
  Speaker 10: highest fourteenth.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: All right, thank you Max and Wellington. Hey Max, good morning.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Have you got two for one drinks in the capital year.
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: We should be celebrating, but rather a bar's license has
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: been suspended for advertising two for one drinks, quite a
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: severe penalty for the residents. Bar on Courtney Place forced
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: to close for two days after promoting this happy hour
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: deal on a chalkboard that was inside the bar, but
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: which could still be seen from the footpath outside. The
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: rule being you can't do business in a way that's
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: seen from outside the business. And so the City Council
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: took the residence to the Alcohol Regulatory Licensing Authority and
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: it has to shut not just on a Monday or
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: a Tuesday, which is what you might think you would do,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: would you have to close for two days? But by
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: rule apparently it has to close on a Wednesday and Thursday,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: which will inevitably cost the residents thousands of dollars. The
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: bar's owner, he's run a foul of the council a
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: few times. In fact, he's complaining about how unnecessarily strict
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: anti business it can be. In this instance, though, he
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: is just going to lump it and abide by the ruling,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: despite saying this was a minor breach.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather showers today?
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: Northerlys fourteen the high central.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Right thinks Max Neighbors and aukl Nava, good morning, good morning,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: that damn rain that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 11: Day, or you're firing an old cylinders? Is your comedy?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, Auckland's dams.
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: Expected to reach full capacity. This for the first time
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: Ryan in almost two years.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: So today's with the system to push Auckland's water supply
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: damps to about over one hundred percent. Now water care
• 23:06
  Speaker 11: head of water, water key head of water. Yeah, Sharon denks.
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: Now she says that look the stuff. They're going to
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: keep a close eye on this total storage levels as
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: the rain continues. But I can tell you that at
• 23:17
  Speaker 11: at four pm yesterday, the total storage for Auckland was
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: sitting at ninety nine point eight percent.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Ah, so surely they would have got there because it
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: rain cats and dogs last night.
• 23:26
  Speaker 11: Last night exactly and that wonder yep so expected to
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: reach one hundred percent sometime today. They're all very, very
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: excited because I remember over the last couple of years,
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: if there weren't any Auckland stories to run over winter
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: over the last two you know seasons, I'd say, what's
• 23:40
  Speaker 11: our damn level sitting at? It was always one you
• 23:42
  Speaker 11: knew you could you could read out because you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 11: it was never over one hundred percent. Then I selt, right, well,
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: I'm going to have to find a new story now.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I always thought, you know, when they do the Savior water,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: conserve your water, we want to, yes, I always thought
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that they should to encourage Aucklanders to light the skytower
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: up with how full the day as also it'll be
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: a challenge for everybody to get the lights going all
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the way to the top.
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: That would be quite cool. You know, that would be
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: very expensive though, wouldn't it was?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: That probably rain on my parade? How's that weather?
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: Rain?
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: More rain, rain, easy in two showers.
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: Look, I've got to tell you though, the show is
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: becoming more frequent in the afternoon, possibly heavy and thunderya
• 24:21
  Speaker 11: and not my words, but you know this is what
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: met to s small hale. Small hale as opposed to
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: big hale seventeen is a high brilliance.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So it won't knock us over. Then, never think you
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: never ready made an orphan small hail and a bit
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: of rain. Seventeen away from six News Talks B, we'll
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: get to Gavin Gray out of the UK on Kers
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Starmer and his threat to Israel.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Next International Correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business quarter.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Effects on your Wednesday morning. We'll get to Rob Campbell
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: on the nurses strike in a second. Right now, Gavin
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Gray are UK europe Correspondent, Gavin, welcome to the show.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Other run so Kirs Starmer's come out and basically join
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: the French saying to Israel, if you don't sort out
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a ceasefire by September by this UN meeting, then we'll
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: recognize Palestinian state.
• 25:07
  Speaker 12: Yeah, this is quite a change of tactic here by
• 25:10
  Speaker 12: the British and buy indeed, Sirkir Starmer himself, who has
• 25:13
  Speaker 12: really shrugged off demands from his own MPs and others
• 25:16
  Speaker 12: saying the situation in Gaza is so bad now we
• 25:20
  Speaker 12: really need to demand a two state solution to this.
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: Just a few days ago, two hundred and twenty one
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: MPs from nine parties urged the recognition of a Palestinian state,
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: many of them from the Labor Government Sakir Starmer's own
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: Labor Party. So what they're saying is unless Israel meets
• 25:38
  Speaker 12: certain conditions, and those conditions are substantive steps to end
• 25:43
  Speaker 12: the appalling situation in Gaza, including a ceasefire and the
• 25:47
  Speaker 12: commitment of long term peace process talks, then the UK
• 25:52
  Speaker 12: will officially at the UN meeting, along with France, basically
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: recognize Palestinian state. So France was going to be the
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: first G seven country to do it. Now it's looking
• 26:03
  Speaker 12: like the first and second we'll do it at the
• 26:05
  Speaker 12: same time. This, as I said, is a huge U turn,
• 26:08
  Speaker 12: but amid huge pressure as well and terrible terrible headlines.
• 26:11
  Speaker 12: Sixty thousand now killed in Gaza, it's been estimated during
• 26:15
  Speaker 12: the Israeli action there, the UN Agency saying famine is
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: now playing out on a wide scale. Israel says no
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: starvation and of the UK's latest move. Israel says it
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: rejects the statement it's rewarding hammers for the October twenty
• 26:28
  Speaker 12: twenty three attack, and also says that the British move
• 26:31
  Speaker 12: Harm's efforts for a ceasefar.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Trump's wrapping up his trip to Scotland. We golf
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: truck yes on his.
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: Way on his way back home after four days here
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: in the UK in what I can only describe as
• 26:42
  Speaker 12: a sort of private trip and a business trip, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: funded by the American taxpayer. The visiting of two golf
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: course is okay. The long discussion of course with the
• 26:53
  Speaker 12: UK Prime Minister Sir Clear Starmer, the announcement of the
• 26:56
  Speaker 12: trade deal with the EU, and today a conversation it
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: was said to be up to about fifteen to twenty
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: minutes with John Swinney, the First Minister of Scotland. The
• 27:06
  Speaker 12: main thing was discussing whiskey tariffs. John Swinney is desperate
• 27:09
  Speaker 12: that this business, worth one point nine billion New Zealand
• 27:14
  Speaker 12: dollars last year, is going to be hit by the
• 27:17
  Speaker 12: ten percent tariffs that Donald Trump has imposed. Donald Trump
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: said he didn't realize that tariffs were going to affect
• 27:24
  Speaker 12: the industry so much, so maybe just maybe John Swinney's
• 27:27
  Speaker 12: words might get the tax break for the whiskey industry,
• 27:31
  Speaker 12: but I wouldn't hold your breath. Donald Trump apparently not
• 27:33
  Speaker 12: a big whiskey fan.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: No, doesn't drink at all. Appreciate that. Gavin Graykay, your correspondent.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Time now is twelve minutes.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: To six rand Bridge, nine am.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Thirty six thousand nurses go on strike. It's a twenty
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: four hour strike. Pay staffing levels, big sticking points and
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: negotiations Health New Zealand rickens more than four and a
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: half thousand plan procedures and specialist appointments will have to
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: be postponed.
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: We'll be running at a very light levelness and the
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: sort of calvi you'd expect on a bank holiday Christmas Day.
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: So the minimum to provide safe care, that's what we
• 28:03
  Speaker 11: aim to do.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Rob Campbell is the former. I don't know what I
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: was expecting from the accent, but no, it wasn't that
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Rob Campbell's former healthyciens here, Hey Rob.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: Good morning Ryan. Now, don't don't you be racist or
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: anything about that?
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's just a lovely Welsh accent for
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a Wednesday morning. But probably the tone doesn't match the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: way that nurses are feeling. I would imagine, can you
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: tell me, because I've asked the union and I've asked
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Health New Zealand, do we have a shortage of how
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: many nurses are we short in our hospitals? Right now?
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: I can't give you a number, but there's no question
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: that there's a shortage. On Health New Zealand's own safe
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: staffing levels numbers, there are any number of shifts, some
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: say up to half which are not properly staffed, so
• 28:50
  Speaker 7: there's no question there is a shortage of nurses available
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: in our public hospitals. There are nurses available to fill
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: those jobs in many cases, but Health News is shall
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: we say, quite slow to take up many of those opportunities,
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: so they are running with staffing levels below those which
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: are ideal, or even ones to which they've previously agreed.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: How much of this do you think can be solved
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: by increasing the salaries, the wages.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: All of the salaries are important to the people, to
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: the men and women involved as nurses. But actually I
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: think the bigger issue is one of trust. There's been
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: a complete breakdown of trust between nurses and many other
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: health professionals, and the leadership and political and administrative of
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: the health system. And I think that people don't simply
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: trust general assurances anymore. They want to see rules which
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: are enforceable so that their working conditions are safe and
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: capable of being met. So pay is part of it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: But I don't think simply increasing the payoff or will
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: solve the problem. This has to be solved face to
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: face with the nurses and the people that they're working for.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: They strike off. I mean, it doesn't matter who's empower
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: they strike. You know, what do you say to people
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: who will say, well, you know, you just after more money.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not getting paid more. I mean one percent is
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: better than no percent.
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: Well, it looks as if you're on the board of
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Health US and you might be in for a bit
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: of an increase from yesterday's announcement by the government. But
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: this is not particularly about this current government. There have
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: been successive governments that have not been dealing with the
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: issue of how the health workforce is properly treated and
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: involved in their own workplace. You know, we rely on
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: these people, the men and women who are nurses. We
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: rely on them when we're at our most vulnerable, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: it's not reasonable that we take advantage of them in
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: the ways that we currently do. So somehow that trust
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: has to be re established and that's going to be
• 30:48
  Speaker 7: a process that takes quite some time in my opinion,
• 30:51
  Speaker 7: but some steps have to be made by giving assurances
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: about these safe staffing levels and meeting at least a
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: wage increase which covers the red and appears to be
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: the main trust of the nurse's pay demon.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Rob appreciate that. This morning. Rob Campbell, former Health ends
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: in Cheer, it is eight minutes away from six Probably
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: would have got a lot more money had he been
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in power under this government. Just coming up to eight
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: minutes away from six now, and we'll give you the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: gang the latest numbers on how many gang members on
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the National gang List from police.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Next the first word on the News of the Day
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and x fol Insulation keeping
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Kiwi Holmes warm and dry. This winter news talks a'd
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: be It is.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Six minutes away from six now. The national gang list,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: this is the one the police put together in twenty
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: twenty three at the election. Remember it was a huge deal.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: During the election campaign we had nine two hundred odd
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: on the list and now we have more than ten thousand.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: First time it's cracked ten thousand. It's an increase of
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: seven hundred gang members and associates. You can argue until
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the cows come home about how accurate the day is,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: but you got you had one party using it. Now
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: you've got another part of using it. And Labor's basically
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: using this all day long. However, the inconvenient part for
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Labor is the fact that it went up four thousand
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: over the six years they were in power. It's five
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: to six. Mike's in the studio, Good morning, Mike Morning.
• 32:20
  Speaker 13: That's Mitchell's argument that the increase has slowed down now
• 32:23
  Speaker 13: more and more importantly, apart from obsessing about numbers, surely
• 32:26
  Speaker 13: the crime connections, the key isn't it is crime going
• 32:29
  Speaker 13: up exponentially because you have more gang members or are
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: they just joining for brotherhood and to play twister at not.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Better at stats. But the thing is that they haven't
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: proved themselves on crime yet. I don't think. I think
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: ye see that if you look at the numbers they've
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: got down, it's it's margin of era stuff. So ye,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I would would a gang list going up still.
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: Depicted by the gangs, and that's so it's it's perception,
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: and it's downtown. The story of the weekend is a
• 32:57
  Speaker 13: little bit of crime and down Auckland. Downtown Aukland spiked,
• 33:01
  Speaker 13: so they're jumping on that. But I think the perception,
• 33:03
  Speaker 13: which is half the battle, as opposed to the numbers,
• 33:05
  Speaker 13: is do you feel safe? Do you see the same
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: sort of trouble around the streets? Are the toyoti erras
• 33:10
  Speaker 13: is being driven into the dairy doors the way they
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: used to be? And the answers, no, wasn't it, Well
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: if you haven't seen evidence stats.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Of it, Yeah, but we don't.
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: We don't won't run those things on evidence. What what
• 33:20
  Speaker 13: you do run on crimes out of control?
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: Is it prove it?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Do you feel safer? Yes, I do prove it. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: think you can safely say that the police have sort
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: of hardened up a bit, correct, you know.
• 33:32
  Speaker 13: And I think it's like it's like the health thing
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: you were talking about a moment ago. I mean, do
• 33:36
  Speaker 13: you feel that the health system is better? Do you
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  Speaker 13: feel more confident in the health system? And that's a
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  Speaker 13: bit of a no at the moment, that's a that's
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  Speaker 13: a sort of a back and forward kind of we're
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  Speaker 13: doing more, paying more.
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  Speaker 2: Unless you've got a cataract you just had done via
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  Speaker 2: the private system, and then you're.
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  Speaker 13: Probably that's and that's part of the argument, isn't it then?
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  Speaker 13: And I think Siman's right on that if you're if
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  Speaker 13: you're in there getting your operation, you couldn't care less
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  Speaker 13: where it's done, could you at the end of the
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  Speaker 13: day anyway, all of.
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  Speaker 2: That more after six o'clock. Very good, looking forward to it,
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  Speaker 2: Mike with the next I'll be back tomorrow. Have a
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  Speaker 2: great day everyone.
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