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- 0:03Your ultimate authority for daily Elon Musk news.
- 0:06Exploring the world's biggest ideas with your host Will
- 0:09Walden. There's something new everyday.
- 0:13Elon Musk helped finance Donald Trump's return to power with
- 0:16nearly $288 million in donations.
- 0:19Now, less than six months later, Musk is watching that investment
- 0:23destabilize his whole empire. Now, the alliance between the
- 0:27two men began as a mutual beneficial transaction.
- 0:30Musk funneled money into Republican campaigns and super
- 0:34PAC's, betting on Trump's re election to secure policy
- 0:37advantages and also business leverage.
- 0:40Tesla stocks surged after Trump's victory in November.
- 0:43SpaceX faced fewer regulatory hurdles, and Musk's influence in
- 0:47Washington reached a new peak. Now, after a sudden and ugly
- 0:52public fallout, the billionaire is totally exposed.
- 0:55Trump threatened to cancel federal contracts tied to Musk's
- 0:58companies. That threat carries real
- 1:00consequences because Musk relies heavily on government funding
- 1:04and Trump has the tools to interfere.
- 1:08Now the white households discretionary control over
- 1:11billions in federal contracts and tax credits.
- 1:14Trump reminded Musk of that power in a statement last week,
- 1:17warning of very serious consequences if Musk supported
- 1:20Democrats. Now, Musk hasn't endorsed anyone
- 1:24for 2028, but he has hinted at starting his own third party
- 1:30now. The comment, according to
- 1:31sources close to the administration, irritated Donald
- 1:35Trump, who views political loyalty as transactional.
- 1:38Musk tried to dial things down over the weekend but deleted a
- 1:41series of attacks he posted about Trump on X.
- 1:44But the damage has already been spreading across Musk's business
- 1:47empire. SpaceX and Tesla all feeling it.
- 1:51But Tesla lost $34 billion in market value after the feud
- 1:56became public, according to Bloomberg's Billionaires Index.
- 2:00The loss is the second biggest single week decline in the
- 2:03index's history. The sell off erased months of
- 2:06gains and rattled Tesla shareholders, many of whom have
- 2:10grown frustrated with Musk's political distractions.
- 2:13And Tesla shares are down more than 20% this year, and its
- 2:16quarterly profits fell 71% compared to the same period last
- 2:20year. Analysts traced the slide to
- 2:22slumping EV demand and political backlash.
- 2:25And Trump's new tax plan aims to eliminate the $7500 EV credit,
- 2:30which is a move that could cost Tesla $1.2 billion in annual
- 2:35revenues, according to JP Morgan.
- 2:38Tesla's financial downturn comes as Musk faces mounting federal
- 2:42scrutiny. The National Highway Traffic
- 2:45Safety Administration recently asked Tesla to provide detailed
- 2:48plans for its robo taxi launch, citing safety concerns.
- 2:52Now, the company has several active investigations related to
- 2:55its Autopilot and Full Self Driving software going on.
- 2:58And these probes began under the Biden administration but also
- 3:02remain ongoing under Trump. And if Trump decides to increase
- 3:07pressure, he has tools to stall permits or ramp up regulatory
- 3:12reviews. That creates more unnecessary
- 3:15uncertainty for Tesla at a moment when investors are
- 3:18already uneasy. Meanwhile, Elon Musk is
- 3:21attempting to shift public focus back to the product side.
- 3:24Tesla is preferring to unveil his robotaxi in Austin this
- 3:28week, and Musk has teased this event on X, claiming the company
- 3:31is now testing self driving. Model Y is on the streets.
- 3:35He hopes the launch will improve sentiment around Tesla and
- 3:39rebuild investor confidence, But internal pressure is mounting.
- 3:43A coalition of activist shareholders sent a letter last
- 3:45week to Tesla's board chair demanding that must commit at
- 3:49least 40 hours per week to Tesla alone, and the group accused him
- 3:52of neglecting his duties while chasing political ambitions and
- 3:56running unrelated businesses. Brad Lander, who overseas the
- 4:00New York City public pension system, criticized Musk's recent
- 4:03actions after Thursday's Tesla stock drop.
- 4:06The pension fund, which holds more than 3,000,000 Tesla
- 4:10shares, lost over $150 million in one day.
- 4:14Lander, who is also running for New York City mayor, called the
- 4:17feud a disaster and said Musk's political obsession has created
- 4:21direct financial harm to many investors.
- 4:25His comments reflect growing discontent among institutional
- 4:28shareholders, who once praised Musk's risk taking but now see
- 4:32it as erratic and also see him as a reckless individual.
- 4:38And beyond Tesla, Musk's other companies face similar threats
- 4:42from Donald Trump. SpaceX relies on federal
- 4:44contracts to launch NASA astronauts and Pentagon
- 4:47satellites. Trump's threat to cancel those
- 4:49contracts sent a chill through SpaceX.
- 4:53Officials at NASA and the Department of Defense privately
- 4:56acknowledged that terminating existing SpaceX deals would be
- 4:59logistically difficult. Still, they have started urging
- 5:03competitors to accelerate development as a hedge.
- 5:06SpaceX remains the only active U.S. company with the ability to
- 5:10launch humans into space, but officials say they do not want
- 5:14to be held hostage by 1 supplier now.
- 5:19Analyst Ross Gerber, a longtime Musk supporter turned critic,
- 5:23estimates that SpaceX would lose half its valuation if it lost
- 5:26access to federal money. The company has built a
- 5:29lucrative commercial business, but it's more consistent and
- 5:32high paying client is still the US government.
- 5:34Any disruption in those contracts would ripple through
- 5:39Musk's entire operation from * lake expansion to Starship
- 5:44development. Gerber also warned that Musk's
- 5:46current behavior is damaging relationships with regulators
- 5:50and customers. He reduced his Tesla stake last
- 5:53week. Suddenly that he called Musk
- 5:54self-destructive leadership style.
- 5:57And I don't know if you remember this, but at the beginning of
- 6:00Starship development, the FAA and SpaceX were always kind of
- 6:06at odds. SpaceX would be done with a part
- 6:09of the mission so they could fly the actual ship, but it would
- 6:13take the FAA months to regulate that one launch and they went
- 6:18through numerous cycles of a Starship in one go from the FAA.
- 6:25So if anything happens with this administration to slow down
- 6:29Starship development, that means that SpaceX and NASA won't be
- 6:33getting astronauts to the moon anytime soon if they delay
- 6:39Starships. Now, let me let me back this up
- 6:42a little bit. SpaceX will need to test 100
- 6:47Starships before they get to the moon.
- 6:48They need to be able to refuel in orbit.
- 6:51They need to be able to orbit the Earth properly.
- 6:53They need to be able to get a Starship to the moon, land it on
- 6:57the moon, and then take off from the moon into lunar orbit, where
- 7:02they will meet up with another craft and that craft will take
- 7:06the astronauts back down to Earth.
- 7:09Now, if they're slowed down, Spacex's Lander, the lunar
- 7:13Starship, the HLS contract Starship is slowed down in
- 7:16development cycle. This means that SpaceX probably
- 7:19won't get to the moon in the next 6-7 years, and that's not a
- 7:27good thing. SpaceX is on flight 10, next of
- 7:32Starship. The last three flights have been
- 7:34a disaster. There has been explosions of the
- 7:37ship for the last three ship flights.
- 7:40The booster exploded last time because they were pushing it
- 7:42towards its limits and they pushed it past the limits, which
- 7:45was kind of expected. But the ship, they thought they
- 7:48had everything fixed, but apparently either something else
- 7:52was wrong or they didn't have the same problem fixed and the
- 7:56thing exploded. So right now SpaceX is trying to
- 8:03get back into the cycle of actually testing the ships in
- 8:08orbit so they can eventually send it or sorry sorry to
- 8:13orbital velocity until someday they will make Starship in
- 8:18orbit, place it in orbit and they'll orbit the earth a few
- 8:21times and come back down in the ocean probably.
- 8:24So if they can succeed in the next few missions, I can see
- 8:27that happening in the next within the next 5 missions.
- 8:30They are also want to do a star link drop off in space and if
- 8:37they get that done, that's a huge step as well because then
- 8:41they can launch Starships and Starlinks at the same time, make
- 8:44money from the Starlinks and also test Starships at the same
- 8:48time. So when SpaceX is going to do
- 8:52the next round of testing after ship, after the flight 10,
- 8:57flight 11, flight 12, flight 13, we're expecting bigger things
- 9:01from them, more kind of experimental things from them,
- 9:06because right now they just have to make it to orbital velocity
- 9:09and make it back down to the Indian Ocean.
- 9:11But you know, it's not just about SpaceX or Tesla must has a
- 9:16hands and a lot of things, XAI and brain tech from Neuralink
- 9:22also depend on clear pathways through highly regulated,
- 9:25regulated sectors. X AI competes directly with Open
- 9:28AI, Anthropic and Google DeepMind, and all of which have
- 9:32relationships in Washington and teams focused on policy
- 9:35compliance. All of those people in those
- 9:38companies, they're kind of quiet, unlike Elon Musk who
- 9:42likes to speak his mind and likes to be a free speech
- 9:44absolutist. Of course, on X, where he can
- 9:46say anything he wants without repercussions until there are
- 9:51repercussions, and Neurolink, which works on brain computer
- 9:55interfaces, must secure approvals from the Food and Drug
- 9:58Administration and maintain trust with medical institutions,
- 10:02Any perception of political instability at the top of Musk's
- 10:06empire could delay approvals or dry up strategic partnerships.
- 10:11Now, as those sectors mature, though, policy risks will rise
- 10:15because they're going to be doing more invasive and higher
- 10:20tier things, so the policy risks will not fall.
- 10:27And Trump's campaign aligned closely with Musk throughout
- 10:292023 and early 2024. And Trump appointed Musk to Lee
- 10:34Doge, which is an economic advisory panel, and he's invited
- 10:40him to many of his events, invited him to Mar a Lago.
- 10:44Tesla was featured prominently during a March White House event
- 10:46celebrating electric vehicles. Trump personally test drove one
- 10:50of the company's red model wise and.
- 10:52He still has it at the White House, he says.
- 10:53He's not getting rid of it. The public embrace stood in
- 10:56stark contrast to the Biden administration, which
- 10:59consistently excluded Tesla from clean energy events.
- 11:03Now, the change gave Musk and his company's rear inside track.
- 11:06But that track now looks far more precarious.
- 11:09But it also looks like Elon and Trump may be making up.
- 11:14We're going to keep you abreast of that situation of the few
- 11:17days coming forward. And Musk's original plan was to
- 11:20gain access, reduce regulation and redirect subsidies towards
- 11:24his businesses. And that that unraveled current
- 11:28public feud has not only raised billions in market value for
- 11:32harder, hard working people that earn that money to invest in his
- 11:36companies and invest in Elon. Now this is the person that once
- 11:42walked into Washington as a kingmaker, and now he faces
- 11:45potential retaliation from the same system that he tried to
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