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Deadspace with Ryan, Erin and Sarah · Trapped Souls Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, welcome Trap Souls.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: I am Ryan.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Aaron.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_02: Sarah.
• 0:03
  SPEAKER_00: And we're here with our special guest, Sarah.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_00: You guys might have seen her on the YouTube.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_00: We put a little video up of Sarah's revenge.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: And we want to talk a little bit about that.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah, so it was supposed to be a solo, it wasn't.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: Why wasn't it a solo?
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, one, because everybody was late.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: Dark as well.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_01: You told me that uh I'd be ever you we'd have everything set up.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I would be up there before the sun went down.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was a straight out lie from the beginning.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I mean, I took it as the truth, so nobody was there.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: So uh actually it was because I was scared as soon as there it is.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, she was scared and she did say she was gonna do it, but it worked out.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: We had Carly there.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: And she's never done an investigation before, so it worked out.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: You got to take her up there.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: What was her experience like in the beginning?
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you guys were just up there by yourselves?
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: She, I mean, the only thing so I don't know.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: There was that like growl, that grumble, and it was on it was on the interview, or not the interview, what was it called?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: The solo thing?
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_01: It was on that you heard it.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I literally in the video I look at her and I say, You heard that, did you you heard that, right?
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: I think at that point she was like, Did I get into?
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because she didn't expect it.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, the for the first night when I left early after my calf, I went straight to her house because like I'm not staying anywhere by myself for the near in the near future.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I slept with the TV's on, the lights on, whatever.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: She left for work and I was like, Yeah, I should be okay.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_01: That door shut, and boy, did I whimp my ass break out that door.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I think she kind of expected she thinks she thinks I'm dramatic.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I think I don't think she expected anything to actually happen, and when something happened, she was like, Oh, she's not being dramatic.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: There is actually shit here.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: So she also isn't as big as a scaredy cat as me, though.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: So she was like, she acknowledged it, like, okay, yeah, there's shit here for sure, but like you're still dramatic.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: So Yeah, I think it interests her for sure.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: Watching the video, it yeah, she realized there's actually real stuff out there.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: But she like just said, Oh, there's real stuff out here.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she doesn't get scared by it.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and she she asked a lot of good questions.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_00: She got toward the end of the video, you can say she got more comfortable kind of questions.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think she was a little camera shy at first, a little solo.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_01: New that's the first time she's ever done anything like this.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: First time she's met all of you.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I think she was a little like shy at the beginning, but then after I was like, I think what's up?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: What do you mean about?
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think the one thing that helped is you.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because you started asking questions.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I was a floor below you, I was watching you on camera.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, my phone's blowing up a little bit.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what do I ask?
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, I'm not gonna answer it because you know.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and so I think letting you go, you asked a lot of good questions.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: You took it, I guess, personal.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like you took it.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I did.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: I was pissed.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not in that, you took like your experiences and you being a a girl.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of growth too with you that I've seen since we've started doing this.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, you you're still scared, but I feel that you're actually getting out there more and you're you're putting yourself out there more in this whole situation.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I gotta say it being my second time there too definitely helped.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: I don't see myself doing anything along those lines the first time I went because I was so the first time I was like, I was terrified.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't even, when I was walking, I wouldn't even look up and walk straight.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: We barely got you up to that.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I I lasted 10 seconds until my calf muscle decided to blow up.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_00: So So what'd you think about when you're did you watch the video?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: What'd you think about when the EVP said I did that?
• 4:04
  SPEAKER_01: I got scared.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I was like, what the what the f like it was like why?
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you do that?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: For what?
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was answering your question.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_00: It was answering your question because it wasn't really a question.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're just telling how you're telling Carly how you got hurt and where you're at.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: Then all of a sudden, I mean, I'm just listening to this through my you know headset, and I'm just my eyes are like back, and I'm obviously doing it in a dark room and a little room.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: I did that.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, what the hell?
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so a lot of these I watch in pieces because they scare me.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: So then me talking shit to this whatever's up there, and then it grumbles at me, and I'm like, okay, pause.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: We'll revisit this.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm telling Carly what happens, and then you hear that I did that.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you know what, we're gonna have to wait until somebody else gets home.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna watch this.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm scared to watch it in my house too, so for obvious reasons, but so I had one person at work came to me and I told a story of my I think the last podcast that he's like, Hey, are you the guy that does a podcast?
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I don't think so.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and he's like, with Craig, I'm like, Oh yeah, that's my podcast.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I was watching that video, he's like, I turned it off when he heard that I I did that.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, I cannot watch anymore.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, That's freaky.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, the good thing is, like, for you and most of us, is we don't hear that till after.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, if I would if I heard I did that over my shoulder, I would have I would have been gone.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_01: Gone.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: I would have ran faster than I've ever ran.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder what she would have done at Bel Air.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean Bel Air was rough.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean it was rough, but it wasn't like you just saw a lot of stuff.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: It was impressive.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was impressive.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like you saw shadow figures, the SS method was great.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: We got a lot of stuff off that.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, teen got scratched.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean it was I I'm gonna say cool stuff because scratching, scratching, but it didn't happen to me, so it was cool.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it was Bel Air was interesting.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think after Belair, like everything else just kind of mellowed for me.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm not really scared to go anywhere.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: I never really was.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: I might have got that low nervous feeling, but I still do it.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm like, like at Ross House, I was like, hey, solo, see you.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you did.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_00: So just went down and did a solo basement.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, I made a note about Ross.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're doing Ross House next.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, just throw your phone.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_00: So we're wrapping up the year.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_00: Our first year as nuclear soul seekers.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: When you started, rumor has that I made you do this.
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_00: Just a rumor.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a rumor.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a rumor.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: How do you think the year has gone for you?
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_00: Growing.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: As far as ghosts?
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, when the one in my house so bothers me, I still get pretty fin scared.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't think too well.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think like, you know, I I think it's one of those like, I'm more comfortable in Madison.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_01: Did you hear that?
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: That was someone else in that.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think like cat to me, I don't know.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: But I was more comfortable in Madison because I'd already done it.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't really happy about going back in the attic.
• 7:37
  SPEAKER_01: Being that we were in a big group, that's was made it easier.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: Kinda almost took the fear away because there were so many people.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, my dad ended up having to have that surgery.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: I missed the big one.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then that other weekend when you guys went to what Ross, I couldn't go.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess in Madison I'm more comfortable, but overall, like, if I'm walking through my house, I still don't look into the dark spaces of the bedroom doors being open.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm still not cozy with ghosts.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, I think you respect them more.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean I never not respected them because I was been like, mind my P's and Q's.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going this way, you're going that way.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Let's not brush short.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm about a your way.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to move.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I think now, like, you're like, what's up?
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm going this way before you run, and now you're like, Don't go to me.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Just don't do that.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: I can sit in the room with them now.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_01: Before I like burn the building down.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: So that's good.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Run down the hallway.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: Screaming.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: Screaming.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:45
  unknown: Yeah.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, as a whole group, Aaron, how do you think that we've progressed?
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: As a group.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_02: As a group as a whole, I think that we're getting more um with I can't use words, sorry.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, progress through me.
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I think we're getting our act together, if you will.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_02: We're better with question asking, um, with how we're looking at each situation that we're in.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um it is there again, growth, like what I said with you.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_02: I think that we are not so, oh my god, what was that?
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my god, what was that?
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's okay, you're listening to it, you might hear something, you can move forward with it, as opposed to that panic moment of the cat ball went off, everybody's gonna, you know, jump 12 feet.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: The cat ball goes off now we're just like yeah, I think a group we have grown.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously we changed some personnel.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um we have more people in the group, some that don't do as much.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: But I think as a group we're adding key pieces.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um Reed, you know, being part of the group.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't know that yet.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: He thinks he's already is, but um, he's a big positive influence on our group.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: He's not scared.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean he hasn't had that experience yet.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure he will.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean he always says I'm not scared of anything.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, no one's ever scared till the cat because a cat jumps on your face.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_02: It hit me.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Whatever it was, just ran across the floor and it hit me.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: So there'll be there'll be times he'll get that feeling.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: But he's very he asks a lot of good questions.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously he's doing a little more social media stuff for us.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um Facebook Live, and we do have a new TikTok, Nuclear Soul Seekers.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um check that out.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Is it NukeSpooks?
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not NukeSoaks.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's nuclear.seoul dot seekers.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_00: So he's running that, which is good because people ask me to do TikTok, and I'm already doing too much, and I was like, dude, if you want to do it, do it.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, bad up.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Literally two minutes later, he had a page up and already stuff on it.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So we're hoping to get some videos out there, some shorts.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still working on how to do that.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_00: I did put shorts on YouTube, but I don't think it turned to shorts.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's just on my page.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I was told shorts are the way to get people to watch, and I failed.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_00: But it's okay.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we're over 800 followers now on our Facebook.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, bird.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: For trap souls.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think like 85 for nuclear soul seekers.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: But I think again, as a group.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: What's the difference between trap souls and soul seekers?
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Nuclear Soul Seekers was our is our group.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Trap Souls is the podcast.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: Word.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: Got it.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: So when I wanted to do a podcast, I wanted a name for the podcast, and Nuclear Soul Seekers just did not sound like a good podcast name.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, Trap Souls.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I'm rolling with.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, really?
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: So we added Chelsea also to the group.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: What do I got?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: You okay?
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's a cool cut.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought you'd appreciate it.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's cute.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's all.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I should close those doors.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we added Chelsea to the group.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we added Chelsea to the group.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know her that well.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: Erin's cousin.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: So she she came down to Ross House with us.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: She did Madison with us.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: After Madison, we decided her add her to the group.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: And she did Ross House, and I mean Ross House was quiet, but she did a good job there.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_02: The thing with Chelsea, she's always had this, um, she's always said that when she's around, she her energy chases things off.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_02: Not necessarily, but she has picked up on things and she is she's not afraid of a lot of things.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: And this is something, again, she's not afraid of.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: She just kind of goes headfirst, let's get this done.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_02: And she's again, she's a positive influence in this group, too.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I think at first, you know, I see a lot of people don't know, like Sarah in the beginning, didn't know what questions I asked.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: And she's kind of that way.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Reed, when he was by himself, he asked a lot of good questions, but as a group, they don't.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously the Esseys method with Tegan at the Ross House, which we'll talk about.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I was the only one asking questions.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and I don't know if just people expect me to ask questions, but more people need to jump in.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: You think they get shy?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you're shy, but maybe they're scared for the answers.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Shoot me down.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: I did shot you straight down.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: Just staring at camera who carriers.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I was doing.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: I know I saw you.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: Just like 30 seconds straight, I was just like.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty much it, but let's we'll make this a little longer.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_01: Backtrack to Madison.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: From the the second time I went, it was a lot more.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to say dead, but like a lot more dead, like no pun intended.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_01: It was very like mellow.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if that's because I temperature, um, the group, the group size, if there was just too much, if they were tired because it was you know, I wasn't I'm pretty sure it was right after Colleen.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: It was after Paracon, too.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so but Carly, we were upstairs.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: We went into the man's doctor office where he did the procedures, and it was just the girls we went up there to try to try to upset him, try to bother him, and he wasn't really doing anything.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: And at one point, one of them said something like, Touch one of us, and I said, Don't touch me.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then I think she said, Touch anybody but Sarah, then and Carly said, You can touch me because I need to feel something before I leave.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then within like, I don't know, five seconds, she was like, uh, like something's got my arm, something's got my arm.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then she started, you know, when someone were to grab your arm, you how you get that little tingle, she started to get that tingle down her arm into her finger.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: So there was something that did to be like, Okay, here's what you wanted, here you get it.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but she definitely felt it, yeah.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: So that helped with her uh like okay, there is shit out here, it just she doesn't get scared.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it was mellow, but obviously we know stuff is there.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_00: But again, we had a big group, which is fine because we try to get we had Baja, Ritt, Reed, a lot of new people, Chelsea, yeah, uh, the Lansky game, right?
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Matt.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, we had a lot of people that might have been has something to do with it.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Temperature might have something to do with it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: They had Madcon right before, which was like 4,000 people.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: So we don't know the main factor why nothing really happened.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: That's why we're going back into this month.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's cold.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be real cold.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: So dress accordingly.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna see if the temperature does have something to do with it.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_00: Which is kind of hard because Bel Air was like 150 degrees.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, it was so bad.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe because that's hell.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: But see, the first time we went, that grave room, I was literally shoulder to shoulder, Aaron and Craig was afraid to move, was afraid to look up, like there were shadow things on the wall, the rods were moving.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: It was and then I went in there the first time, it sm it even smelled different.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: It didn't, I mean, there was nothing.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: And like usually walking, you know, I remember the second time.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: We went the first time we went to Madison, we went back to the room to do whatever.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I literally stopped before the door and I was like, it doesn't feel right.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: And Aaron was like, you don't have to go if you don't want to, and I was like, No, I said we're st I'm still gonna go, but it like my stomach's queasy, this doesn't feel right.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: So there is some through that entire hallway all the way in, there was nothing.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know if like they moved, they're playing high-and seek, because it was Halloween.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, boom.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't know how even then the second time, like even in the grave room, that was one of the hottest areas.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: There was so I I've never really gotten anything out of the grave room.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, okay, I'm usually the addict in the background.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_02: The drunk tank is where I've had a lot.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the drunk tank, we saw something come out, mm-hmm.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: And then she said, Is that you, whoever?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: And he went right back.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we're like, oh.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: But then even this last time we went there, it wasn't really anything.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: Last few weeks they've been in a lot of stuff out there, it seems like.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: In Madison?
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, for the ideals I'm seeing and people posting.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: But like what you were saying with the fact that they had Madcon there, I do think that the more people that they've had in that area in that time leading up to you know the next group going in, yeah, it does suck up a lot of energy.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's a lot of because I in my opinion, it's an energy force that is a spirit.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_02: That's what's feeding off of our energy and our fear, and I think that's why it, you know, it boosts it up so much.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel like at that point it was just it was too much.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there was too many people in and out.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just think if people just kept coming to your house every single night.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: And you're gonna be like, dude.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're at you know, you're like, I don't want company.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're saying the others like too bad.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: Don't talk anymore.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: Hide.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: I'm done.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, all right, well, I'm gonna go to bed then.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: You yell at, so you can't go to bed.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: So you're stuck with it.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then you're just like, uh on the couch.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like, can you please leave?
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_01: That's probably what they were doing.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, I think it goes on stages, like, yeah, we can have fun, we wanna talk, then too many people, then they're like, we're gonna scare these people so they never come back.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Then people keep coming back, and they're like, I'm done with this.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, enough is enough.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Did you have sideline on yet?
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, not yet.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Trying to.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_02: That'll be a good one.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Put in a sheer.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_00: Scotty, yeah, that'll be good.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: Scotty doesn't install our stuff, and he watches the videos.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: But we're gonna have some more guests on in the future.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we'll talk a little bit about I guess our evidence that we've gotten this year.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what do you think some of the best techniques for evidence?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: What do you mean by like best techniques?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have cameras, we got cat balls, we got EVPs.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what do you prefer to use when you go out?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_02: Personally, myself, like because I can pick up on things and I can feel things being there.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: I I do like using the recorders.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_02: I will say that because that's gonna pick up something that I'm not necessarily gonna hear.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know how I feel about I mean the cameras, sure, if you can see something, but I I prefer to use the recorder or even the cat balls.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_02: It's so so simple and it's really hard to screw up.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_02: So you you've got that.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_00: So that's my I mean the one thing that we I don't know how to say it, like we're trying to gain like interesting stuff, so-called evidence, because you know, that's what we do when we want to show people, and personal experiences are great, but do people believe you?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Right, that's the hardest part about personal experiences.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now, as paranormal group, you everybody gets at A BGBs, you know.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: You want to get you walk into a room like uh yeah, it's not good in here, but I'm gonna go in anyways.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like Sarah should walk right in.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: As long as someone's with me.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I think EVPs are the best type of evidence.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, cameras, I don't do much.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: We're starting to do a little more because I think 99% of so-called evidence is on EVPs.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_00: Then cameras, you might pick up something.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about orbs since we're on the topic of stuff.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, I actually have a picture and there's an orb in it.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: But you said that, so it just popped my mind.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: But it's so my grandma died.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_01: It was the first time that my mom's another family got back together.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: They came up here, and my aunt and I, we were all like me and my aunts, my mom, my grandma were all really close.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like the girls.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: We're all really, really close.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: And this was the first time that I had seen them.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: We went, they came up here and got a cabin on the lake.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: We went down to the actual water, and she pulled out her phone and was like, Sanji, let's take a picture.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_01: So we take this selfie and we look at it, and there's an orb in that picture, and I'm like, that has to be my grandmother because who who else?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who else that would be.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Why else something would be there?
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, I'm not a big believer in orbs.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Doesn't surprise me.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_01: I hope an orb fucking shoots across your face like a fucking shooting star.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna tell you, I do believe there are orbs out there.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: But I think 99.9% of what people claim that are orbs is dust or boats.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, correct.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_00: So how do you tell the difference?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_02: One thing that I look at when I am looking at something that has an orb, or usually in video, especially.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Why don't we have service?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Oh look.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh I don't know how you would Were you saying it's dust from the water?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: On that very calm lake.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, people could say it's reflection of the sun, obviously.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying it's not.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: It could be.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: That's the whole thing.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Not believing it.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's always something that someone can say to try to bunk that.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: And honestly, like it could be your grandmother.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why it's possible, but there's so much other stuff.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I don't like orbs because there's so much there's no hard evidence.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, other stuff.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: When looking at, especially video, something I am always trying to define is movement of it.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_02: So is it traveling traveling in like a nice linear path?
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Is it, you know, going up and then shooting, coming back?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_02: If it's really erratic, makes me think more.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_02: And then, okay, what time of year is it?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_02: Is it a bug?
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like you said, is it dust?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: Is it, you know, did the heating system or cooling system kick on?
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_02: But if you can kind of like break all those things down and you're looking at it and you go, well, I wasn't in anywhere that there was bugs.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there really wasn't any sort of, you know, wind-air movement, and it was a very erratic, because usually you're gonna see things when they float, it's it's afloat.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_02: But if they're like boom, boom, boom, that's gonna make me think a little bit more to okay, why?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Why did it move in that pattern?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_00: The problem is a lot of insects do different types of insects.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Do fly different patterns.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying is like, okay, there's no bugs.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: There's no, you know, breaking down all those.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, no, not that there's no bugs, but like breaking down, okay, in the dead of winter.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: Are we gonna have a bunch of bugs flying around?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_02: No, not really.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: So it depends.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm just I'm just saying there's too many other factors.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not I'm not saying there are no such thing as orbs.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's just too hard to say, yes, that is an orb.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, that's why I like EVPs, like when you hear something, you hear it, yeah.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_00: That's I mean, we have a couple at Ross House.
• 25:02
  unknown: Okay.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Not much.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: But I think there might be two.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: One decent one, another one's not.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: But we have a lot of evidence.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: We had a lot of questions, and I got some answers.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: So that's pretty neat.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't you have something at Ross?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_02: Not at Ross.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: At Bell Air.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: She didn't have an at Ross besides some Z.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I was a wreck.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_02: I fell asleep on the floor.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: Face down.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_02: Tegan do.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_02: Me, Tegan, and Chelsea.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Tegan had a game, that's that poor kid was exhausted.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: She did go though, so I can't.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna drive.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, well, we're gonna wrap this one up.
• 25:43
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• 25:45
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• 25:48
  SPEAKER_00: I hate being on camera.
• 25:50
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• 25:51
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• 25:56
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• 26:00
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• 26:03
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• 26:05
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• 26:12
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• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Did you get a hold of me?
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know where to find me.