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RHOC Recap "It's Not That Bad!" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling Drama, Darling Drama Darling. Well, hey guys, what's up.
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Hello Darlings, Welcome back to Drama Darling. It's me Amy Phillips,
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very excited for this show today, Orange County, and just so you know,
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we've got some dish. Then we're gonna get into Orange County and Emily Dreesis
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is here on the East coast, coming in hot how's it going? Ms?
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It is great. It was all day here, a nice rainy summer
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day. Yeah lovely, how lovely? I know you remember those I do
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in California? Sure, south of California. For a second yesterday it rained
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bigger than drizzles for about four minutes here in Santa Clarita. Oh wow,
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big news, big news, that's big news, especially like in your like
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that isn't it more unlikely to remain there than it is in La? Oh?
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Yeah? I think so. I mean, like the city. Right,
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Sorry, I know you're La County. No, it's fine, I'm
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I would. I'm fully happy to be up here. By the way,
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speaking of Santa Clarita, the public school systems have gone back to school.
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Baby daughter, first day of school of first grade in the books just picked
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her up, very exciting. Wow. I didn't realize. Oh gosh,
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yeah, first grade. Wow, I know. I mean, you said,
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you know the teacher. I don't know why I assumed it was kindergarten.
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Well, because she well, she was in kindergarten. It was just
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a hot second ago, you know. So it's just crazy. I know,
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it's so crazy. But she did great. She had a great first
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day. We're so proud of our half day to day half day tomorrow.
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So excited. But we do have some major dish to get into. So
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we got to serve this up, Emily serving dish. All right, here
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we go. Let's kick it off with the drop of the new video by
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Morgan Wade with a cameo featuring Kyle Richards in the song called fall in Love.
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Now. This just dropped moments before we took to the airways here on
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Drama Darling and I have to say, you know, Wow. I mean
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just wow. So we've got Kyle in this music video. They are in
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a lesbian relationship. In this video, they are kissing, they are feeding
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each other. It's very nine and a half weeks, so you know,
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in the kitchen feeding each other food and such. Shout out to any of
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those you know, eighties and nineties people who know what I'm talking about by
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the Kim Beasinger movie nine and a half weeks where they have that sex food
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scene and you're familiar, Emily, Well, here we are. Now it's
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now out there and this is what we've been leading up to. I know
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a lot of people are saying they feel very gas lit by Kyle and Morgan
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for that in that if they weren't really having a relationship in real life,
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they are in this music video and they were leading us down this trail of
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making us believe that something was going on between the two of them for real,
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real, when it actually may just be this music video. Now,
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I would like to first point to the interview that they did that aired about
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on their instagrams about six days ago, how they told the story about how
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they met and leading up to this video. So the way that they both
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talked about. This was that Kyle, you know, heard her music on
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the radio. She really liked it, and then followed up with listening to
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all of her music. She started following Morgan Wade on Instagram, and Morgan
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DMed Kyle and was like, why are you following me? Because her friends
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knew Kyle and they were like why is a real housewife? You know?
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And you know Beverly Hill's following you blah blah blah, and so she just
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Morgan DMed her first. So then I guess they started talking. Next thing,
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you know, they and this is a quote from Kyle. If they're
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going to talk, you might as well give them something to talk about.
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And so here we were led all the way through this whole thing, and
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it seems like they had an agreement to troll the trolls and that's what they
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did. They made us all seem like fools. So whether or not there's
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a real relationship going on at this point, it seems like they're painting the
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picture that there isn't. It's just for the music video, and they're basically
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pulling one over on us. They wanted us all to think that, and
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yet here they are saying it was just for the video and now and now.
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Emily thoughts thoughts on this. I am scrolling through Twitter. I'm seeing
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the reactions. I'm seeing Oh my god, these are so funny. Lime
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is a slur, Uh says this is a Lesbo quake, measuring nine point
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nine on the Sappho scale. Logan simply says, oh wow, they're the
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reactions are next level, and Housewives Fanatics says, I never thought Kyle would
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become one of the most attention seeking housewives ever. Simply Jill says, no,
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I mean it is very funny the way that this is all going down.
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Well, do you think it's real? Because I don't think that the
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entire for one full year, Kyle would be building something on her Instagram Uh
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to lead to this video. I mean she she Mario. I mean like
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obviously there's something going on and she has not been posting, she hasn't been
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doing her normal I'm in a marriage with Mario's stuff, and I think,
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like, Kyle's not that like she was. This is real. I don't
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Also the videos. I really thought it was going to be kind of like
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look for the clues. They're right, it is a Krishelle and g pop.
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Is it ge pop? I'm trying to think, gee Twizzle, I
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can't remember, but it's it's like that, you know, they were making
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out in the grocery store, They're making out in the kitchen, They're seeing
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each other in the gym. Kyle's in full like Barbie workout gear from the
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eighties. It's a lot. There's a lot going on. Yeah, It's
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it's like she's yeah, milk eighties is what milks happening? Is this Morgan
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is some of her kids? Yes, but yeah, I think it's definitely
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going on. I just still am like, well, I don't know,
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like whatever it is, maybe it's not that serious, but it's something did
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or is going on. It's all right. At this point, I'm like,
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I do I really want to care that much? Well, now at
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this point with the Whole Face Reality sixteen and those matching tattoos, and now
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I'm thinking that those tattoos were obviously I'm guessing in this music video they go
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and get matching tattoos in the music video and they're not actually real, or
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maybe they ended up being real, but and those pictures were from a long
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time. Those tattoos at the reunion, right and they probably filmed that.
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They filmed that video probably all the way back then, is what I'm guessing.
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Think, No, that video. No, that's what I think.
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That's a long time ago, I know, and that's that's how these things
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work. I don't know, That's just what I'm thinking. Like even just
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watching Orange County tonight, they were gearing up on October, you know,
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and that was a full year ago almost you know. From now it just
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with production and what's going on with Kyle. They held they hold stuff,
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blah blah blah. Now Kyle is working on that documentary with Morgan, and
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so I don't know. Again, the timeline is off for us. We
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don't know. But right so that this whole like it is, it is
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happening right now, and I think all of us feel a little like really
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because it just seemed so it just seemed a lot more forced than it needed
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to be. We didn't need to go through all of this like it reeks
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of some thirst and it's bizarre. It's a weird move on behalf of Kyle
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that I will say that because she doesn't come across as this kind of a
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housewife to to basically say like if they're going to talk about something, you
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might as well give them something to talk about, So let's put on a
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ruse. And that's essentially what she said in the interview, which is,
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you know, you know it's not the time and the place. Oh so
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you believe, so you literally believe what Kyle is saying. Kind of.
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I mean, I know that a lot of people are would completely disagree with
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me, because obviously you see from the video they're way into each other.
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But like, maybe something more happened. But I think I am just saying
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what she did to make this a ruse for us to believe is what's annoying
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about it. She let us down this path of like they have a relationship,
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leading us, like giving us, having us all have these question marks,
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and then it turns out there's just a love interest in it. You're
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wrong, Amy's wrong, everybody. That's fine, no call out. I'm
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not saying I'm not saying I'm right in that. I don't I don't know
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if anything happened, and if it did, I'm not denying that it didn't
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happen. I'm just saying they took advantage of painting this storyline as if it
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was something more than a music video when we knew nothing about a music video.
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They could have said a long time ago, we were in a music
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video and I played her love interest, you know, like they weren't thinking
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about it. That is why I think they recently did the music video.
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Okay, and we're like, we're gonna say it was all for this music
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video. Oh that's an interesting theory. Okay, yeah, okay, because
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Kyle doesn't have time to be curating an Instagram account that spells something out.
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She's just posting pictures for a one full year to curate something that like leaves
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to this. But I think a PR person can be behind me and like
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people who want to set Morgan up for success and get attention. You know,
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Kyle wouldn't even set her own sister up for that kind of success.
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Like, I can't imagine she's that invested in Morgan unless she's dating her.
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So I do think something's going on. I think maybe Kyle doesn't. Maybe
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Kyle's back and forth on what her life is, but I mean something's amiss,
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something's ass Yeah, it's an it's I think at this point it's a
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little annoying now. It wasn't annoying until the videos. Yeah, a lot
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watching these videos, and I'm like, well, we're eating it up now.
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If they really want me to believe that this was all about videos,
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I don't believe that at all. Okay, I mean I just think it
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was a ploy for attention. Everything's a ploy. They're on reality television.
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Yeah, miss Phillips, I know everything's so ployed. I agree, But
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I also think, like, you really think her and Mario are going to
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be married in a year? No, not necessarily, unless they get I
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think they've got an arrangement. They could have an arrangement. Okay, Okay,
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they may have an arrangement. If Brett and Andy Cohen put out the
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video that Kyle and Morgan just put out, would you, as his wife,
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be like, yeah, this guy, I think I can handle this.
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This is great. I'm really everything's really great in our marriage. Well,
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Mauricio commented on the video and was like fire, fire fire, you
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know Krishelle's styles was like music videos are so fun. I mean, this
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is just it's too much. The other part of this is Mauricio and Kyle
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could be fully in a business relationship at this point. I have no idea,
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like best best friends who are in a business relationship together, which it's
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fine too. I just think that, like, I don't know here,
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I'm gonna wrestle back. I don't. I don't necessarily deny that something deeper
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is going on between them and it's a relationship. And your theory about this
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video is the cover up, that's your theory. Mine is more that this
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was just all for fodder and attention and a publicity and it was a publicity
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stunt and there's nothing more to it. Okay, Then why come out with
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this statement on July fourth or late July third, after the reality that her
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and Mauricio are having the worst year of marriage and all that, So why
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two separate things? Maybe? Well, I think Maurici is a cheater.
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I think Mauricio is a cheater. I think that was a set event.
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I think you probably cheated on her again. Yeah yeah, yeah, I
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allegedly, But I think all that's why I stand Kyle. But that aside,
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why not then make that statement like you guys have it all wrong.
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I just wait till this video drops out. That's what I'm saying. That's
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what pisses me off, and that's why I'm saying it's a publicity stunt for
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ratings for the show and for ratings for Beverly Hills. Ratings for Beverly Hills.
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And it's a two. It's a two fur. You get Morgan gets
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set up and you know, all eyes on her. I think accidental,
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two fur. I just don't think Kyle. I'm trying to think, like
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this is a move I could see somebody else. That's what I'm saying.
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That's why I'm exactly, this is not like Kyle to do something like this.
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I agree with you, it's not like her to do something like this.
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So it's I like her to do it something like this, even if
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it's not a bit I mean, the whole thing is totally out of her
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character. Yeah, but I'm going to I am going to stand by two
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things that I think the video was just made so that they could point to
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that as almost like a deflection. And two I'm annoyed that I am caring
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about it. I know, I'm trying to look at her face and I'm
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like, Okay, what what do they look like? I mean, she
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has it's definitely like she has her new nose, that's for sure. I'm
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trying to get like a marker on the way she looks. If there's any
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way to like, you know, identify the time, you know, like
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the time this song, this song Morgan, this is off her new album.
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Right. Also, I think that they just filmed it because I think
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we'd have a full video and there and so we're getting drips and well it
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says the video is out today. I can't seem to find it anywhere,
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but they say it's out today. I think this is NICs clips. I
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think it's new, I really do. Okay, I don't, but all
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right, And also if they wanted, if this was the thing they if
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they really wanted to make it not to be like ha ha, just about
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the video ha ha. I think that they should have maybe pulled in one
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or two of the other wives to be in the video. That would have
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been a cool video that Morgan is playing with like hooking up with all the
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wives. That would have been very cool actually, and somebody should do that.
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That's a fun idea. Yeah, Well, you know, Darling's way
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in, way in. I'm sure you'll all say I have egg on my
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face, but I just that's my opinion. And we'll see, we'll never
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know, we'll never see. We're probably both wrong. That's probably true.
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It's like that at that last episode of vander Pump Rules reunion where none of
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us were right because it was nothing. Yes, it's just a nothing burger.
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As the kids say, I hate but I did too. I really
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hate that. I'm sorry I said it. I'm gonna have to go back
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and edit. I never edit, but that I will edit out now.
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Well, so that happened, Okay, it's a big day. That happened.
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And then we have Face Reality sixteen actually retweeted Jarrett Weiselman's tweet and he
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says, Carol radso Will, I always said Radzeville. Carol Radziwill just revealed
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on Heather McDonald's podcast that Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer was the one who
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took the photo of Tom kissing that woman at the Regency and gave it to
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Beth through Dennis who he was friends with. WHOA, So this is next
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level. My head is spinning. This is when I feel like New York
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is a small town, like it just is like everybody does kind of know
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everybody at a certain point, like it is crazy. I just can't.
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I guess you run in those circles and eventually you are like, it's just
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like remember Sonia being like I bought it a j Jen Kennedy. Right,
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It's like, well she probably did. Oh I don't know if you would
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remember, right, Yeah, that's true. Oh boy, oh boy.
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Okay. So in other news, okay, this is also big news with
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this sag Aftra strike. So sag Aftra is rallying behind reality TV performers in
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residuals fight. And this variety had an article out and the sag After statement
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basically said, you know, Los Angeles. August tenth, twenty twenty three,
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sag After has engaged in discussions with Brian Friedman at the Freedman Taitleman LLP
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law firm, who has been retained by Bethany Frankel, around the subject of
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treatment of reality performers. Sag After is the union that represents reality performers.
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Depending on the structure of the production and the performers involved, we can cover
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these performers under our Network Code agreement. We stand ready to assist Bethany Frankel,
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Brian Friedman, and Mark Durragos, along with reality performers and our members
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in the fight and are tired of studios and production companies trying to circumvent the
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union in order to exploit the talent that they rely upon to make their product.
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We encourage any reality performers and or members members to reach out to sag
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After's entertainment contracts departments so that we may work together toward the production protection of
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the reality performers, ending the exploitive practices that have developed in this area,
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to engage in a new path to union coverage. Wow, Bethany, Wow,
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this is huge, This is enormous. I honestly didn't see it coming.
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I didn't think that sag after would jump on board. And just to
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make it clear, the network code is different than the other the than sag
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after contracts across the board, and I think I've talked about on this podcast
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before. So like, for example, things that are up and running right
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now that can can continue to move forward and work are things that are under
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the network code, which are things like game shows, talk shows, and
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I suppose reality shows, news. Yes, those types of broadcast shows.
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And they have a separate contract and actually in that contract is a no strike
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clause. So that's why they're able to continue to work and they have a
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different like coverage if you will, I know I'm not explaining this quite perfectly,
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but it is a little different, and so it does make sense that
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they would include, you know, have them under that network code and have
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them under that union, under that contract for network code. Right. I
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think technically award shows fall under award shows too, Yes, but are still
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still striking right because they want to stand firm and stand yeah. Right.
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It's just like it's just like if this strike goes down, them saying we
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don't want to go to Bravo kon. It's just like they could do Bravocon
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all day. That's a live event, but it would be making their statement
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if they're yeah, I mean, we'll have to see what happens. I
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mean, Wow, this is really heating up. I mean, I have
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to say. I also wonder if there might be like splinter reality unions,
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so you could either join SAG after or because SAGON after two different unions,
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but they merged. They did merge, But I wonder if there will be
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a separate reality only because I do think that reality has a lot of power
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right now, and some people might not want to just fall in with the
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Bethany order. I think some might want to do something else, So reality
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stars, you mean, yes, and production in general. So I just
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don't know where that will. I've heard that maybe they're so powerful that they
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could actually start two different unions. I mean they could, I just wonder
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how like how yeah, I mean they absolutely could because there's a you know,
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cast and crew. And by the way, Reality Blurb has this article
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here where they are citing an interview that Bethany did with e t And and
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I don't know where this interview is. I need to find it. But
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Reality Blurb says that in et interview, when asked which celebs have reached out
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to her, Bethany shared, I got a message from Hannah Berner, Caitlin
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Bristow, Chrissy Teagan, Jay, Wow, people from Love Is Blind,
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The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, below Deck, vander pump Rules, Summer House
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Page, Disorbo. Why Christy Tigan She's not reality I know she loves everything
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reality, but I would assume she would be. It's just just everyone reached
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out to her. I suppose. Yeah. From what I've heard, it's
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like eighty reality stars. And then, according to a fan account at by
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Wig Hello Drama, Bethany recently tagged several bra celebrities who have contacted her with
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interest in getting involved in the potential union. Some of the stars included Page,
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Hannah, Tom Sandoval, Stasi Schroeder. She went on to say,
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these are people that are messaging me back, they're listening, they're interested.
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And who else are there tagged in their I mean it's definitely Rachel Raquel.
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Oh, I'm sure, which, by the way, is has been seen
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by TMZ photographed in a spa in Tucson, Oh, Tucson, Okay,
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So she is not, you know, gearing up to be filming. That's
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why I'm like, she's clearly part of this lawsuit. Hasn't been named like
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she is probably This is my hunch is that she is like knee deep in
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this lawsuit. Her lawyers are, Yeah, Andy Cohen, She says.
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Andy Cohne is very involved in negotiations, and he produces the shows, and
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he knows everything about goes about goes what goes on inside entertainment. He's quite
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knowledgeable of what the television industry represents and what it means. And he's knowledgeable
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as a producer and as an observer and as a monetizer of this dynamic.
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His show is designed for gotcha moments in exchange for them getting promotion for whatever
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they're doing. It's a quid pro quo. What Andy doesn't know with institutional
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knowledge is what it feels like to be a degraded member of reality television and
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person Andy. I would think that she's not They're not friendly anymore. I
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don't think I yeah, I doubt it. And a person that experiences gotcha
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moments and is always the last one to know and effectively treated like a well
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paid famous handmaid. Wait, well, I'm sorry I interrupted you. She's
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saying Andy is a well paid thing. You No, she's saying that he
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doesn't know what it's like to be a person on reality television who's being used
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for gotcha moments and is effectively treated like a well paid, famous handmaid.
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Is what she's saying. Well in fairness to Andy, like he was at
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the forefront of this. And I don't know Andy from a hole in the
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wall, but I would think he's open to listening. I don't think he's
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actively against a concept like this. I think he's pretty into like an evolution
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of rest. I mean, he knows things change just like we all do.
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And I mean, I'm sure the writing was on the wall for production
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companies, for executives, knowing you know that this would ultimately end up happening
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at some point, so you know, I mean, this could be protection
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for everybody involved. And I wonder if he will be supportive of it or
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combative. I don't know. I mean, I would don't think he cares,
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right like, I don't think he has a dog in this fight anymore
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because he's not I mean, he's paid no matter what, he's not actively
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executive producer, right unless going after him personally in this lawsuit, and that's
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where we don't know the you know, the ins and outs of the lawsuits,
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so of like, is he he's being named as someone who's you know,
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the bad guy in this situation. That's where I could feel it would
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get ugly because then it becomes personal, where it's like, well, Andy
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has single handedly helped so many of these housewives and these women to lift them
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up and give them a platform. So if you're going to go after him
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personally, that's an issue. But if you're going for the network in general
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in terms of like restructuring the way that reality television is produced and having you
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know, rules in place, so that people aren't, you know, taking
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advantage of in sick ways. I mean, who wouldn't be for that?
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The game plan on any of this stuff, whatever it is. When you
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drop a bomb like a lawsuit, it gets really ugly, right too,
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people are like, may cry uncle and they sit down and figure it out.
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Yes, yes, so I think it's probably going to get kind of
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ugly. It's probably going to get personal. And I mean, God,
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bless Andy is the face of Bravo, so it's probably going to get personal
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for him, and he's probably going to want to cry uncle way before Bravo
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is, so he's I mean, if it will be I would be like,
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Okay, what do you want, Bethany, I'm on your side publicly,
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I'm on Bethany's side, like I would definitely like depending on how ugly
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that gets, right, right? So I ask you a question, Yeah,
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do you think this is now me being very cynical. Do you think
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that they went back and re edited that Below Deck episode to show production stepping
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in because the timing of them I said that, I said that, I'd
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no, I know, but I said that too, And boy, I
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said, is it possible that they did that to show that they are so
29:19
good about you know that they did the right thing and production does have their
29:22
back and they made sure that everybody was safe in that situation. And I
29:27
believe it was Angela that said, well, if they did take that out,
29:32
then you wouldn't have an entire rest of that episode because then there'd be
29:36
these huge holes in the storyline. So I don't know, I mean that
29:40
that was her argument, but I made that exact same point. Well,
29:45
God, I don't know, what a time? What a time? These
29:49
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29:56
And I haven't even been able to get over to the strike, you know,
30:02
any of the strikings, any of the strikings, because I'm working every
30:06
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30:08
I got this podcast of wear keg. So I haven't been able to like
30:14
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32:00
get in to Orange County. Honey. So wow, I mean haaba da
32:09
Tamra's pass. Tamras passed that Eddie's back from cut cuts Cut has closed its
32:15
stars and she wants them to be in office. Ignore the opening shot with
32:19
everybody's dogs look at you. I was gonna get there. I was.
32:22
I promised. That was like, I mean, move over, vander pump
32:29
dogs, because where did all these those puppies over at gems? Like a
32:35
lot of questions there. Yeah, she's fowering them, like what's happening?
32:39
Were those puppies or cats? I thought they were cats. They were puppies.
32:50
I don't know. They were on their on our boat. That's why
32:53
I thought that puppy puppy boat or cat's boat. Stop right now? Oh
33:00
my god, I can't even. And then of course we get Archie get
33:02
in the water. Go Archie. Oh yes, I hadn't seen. Yeah,
33:07
I do. I do like your relationship with Archie. It's pretty sweet
33:10
love. He's really been through it, that dog. There's been a lot
33:15
of drama darling with Archie, but I was happy to see he's been he's,
33:17
you know, living his best life. And then who else had a
33:21
dog? Was it Emily that we saw? Yes? Yes, and that
33:25
Emily and the dog water at the dog water at the beginning of the season.
33:30
Oh yeah. So now I'm always nervous when she's in a scene with
33:34
the dog. That dog likes to hump, right, they all do,
33:40
But I feel like that's always a cutaway shot that we don't have on all
33:46
the shows. Editors think it's so funny, like we need to see it,
33:50
but we don't. Okay, So Heather and Gina are at a nursery
33:54
and Heather's like Rogers Gardens. I want to gardens. I do too.
34:01
That looked lovely, I know, and it looked so like it was like
34:07
the autumn tip. I need that, like because we don't really get that
34:13
in La. Yeah. So I'm willing to drive out to that place.
34:16
Okay, October, Okay, why don't you come up to Okay? Well,
34:27
Heather's like, I heard Shannon has been poking around about your relationship with
34:30
Travis, and I mean it's just ping pong and across the border, like
34:34
this person's poking around about Travis and Gina and this. These people are all
34:37
poking into Shannon and uh and John Jansen and boy oh boy. And we
34:44
ended up getting to that, which we'll get into. But let's talk about
34:47
Jen and her friend Taylor and that this is like a good friend of hers
34:52
from I'm guessing Nebraska college together. Wait, is she up from Oklahoma?
35:00
Oklahoma? Yes, because she was like, oh yeah, I talked to
35:04
Ryan last night all night long. And I mean I talked to him last
35:07
night more than I talked to Will your entire marriage. I was like,
35:10
whoa, why is Taylor riding so hard for Ryan? Yeah? Friend Taylor,
35:16
not housewife Taylor right now? House Yes? Yeah, Well, I
35:21
think obviously that's really nice that Jen wanted her old college buddy to come film
35:27
a scene with her, and oh weird, she supports Ryan. That's how
35:31
weird funny you think Taylor friend Taylor is gonna get on Cameron be like he's
35:37
an ass, right, No, she just went so hard She's like,
35:42
what are you afraid of? Are you afraid that something is going to come
35:45
out that you don't know about? Yeah? What were you going to say?
35:51
Well, it's also like you don't think Ryan. Let's say Taylor didn't
35:54
see this all coming. Ryan did. Of course he's going to turn on
35:59
the charm for so passed all night long. Yes, the big scene is
36:04
tomorrow, the big scene. Yeah, and though it was finally nice to
36:12
hear a little inside information regarding the timeline. You know why Jen doesn't want
36:19
a divorce Will because of her family a family business, kicking him out of
36:23
the family business, which I'm like, what is this family business where you'd
36:28
have an amazingly resourceful employee so much so that you pick him over your daughter,
36:32
but they have to stay married. It just sounded like like just keep
36:37
the great employee, Like, what's the problem. I am very confused about
36:43
that, because what is this family business? I don't think they said no,
36:50
they haven't said we could probably figure it out in four clicks. But
36:54
I think, like, oh, meet the biotech entrepreneur running our technology for
37:00
his family busy and technology. Who is Will Padranthi? This is on business
37:09
news? Oh, this has nothing to do. Okay, realizes Orange County
37:16
star Jennifer divorces will after he refuses to move to Orange County with her.
37:22
He's from Ladera Oh he is originally from Ladera Ranch, California. Oh that's
37:28
interesting. Did you know that? Yeah, I'm sorry and holds specifically that
37:35
area, but they said that he was originally California. Okay. He worked
37:39
as a lawyer before moving to Spectrum Pharmaceuticals, where he served as vice president
37:45
as a member of executive committee. Since then, William has worked for biotech
37:50
companies as well as a law firms such as blah blah blah blah, though
37:55
it's established company. Okay, hold on, what where does he? Okay?
38:00
He often serves as a He often serves as an advisor to several life
38:04
science companies. According to his wife and cast member Jennifer, this led to
38:10
a lot of fights between the two and they finally got divorced in twenty twenty
38:15
one. They're not divorced yet. Well, they filmed this. That's wrong.
38:22
That information is wrong about it's when they got separated. Yeah. And
38:29
yeah, also, well, anyway, whatever it is. I thought that
38:35
was interesting that there was actually like a whole angle regarding the family business and
38:39
her guilt and the other thing. I'm like, everybody is demanding that Jen
38:45
and Ryan get married. Why I know, what's the rush? Just so
38:51
that they can be they can prove that they were right and they'll get divorced,
38:55
Like right, who wants that mess? And also Ryan saying like,
39:00
oh, we'll be together in twelve months. It's a matter of timing because
39:04
of the divorce. So it's ridiculous. And if this is because it's a
39:10
Christian thing, like, I'll throw up in my mouth. It's not.
39:14
It has nothing to do with religion. I don't think you think it is.
39:20
Maybe I think that they would that would be her whole thing. If
39:23
that was, it would be much more at the forefront, if it was.
39:28
Okay, well that's a good point. Yeah, at the end of
39:31
the day, she's like, this is complicated. You know, we're if
39:35
we're getting divorced, then maybe well shouldn't be a part of the family business.
39:37
Well, I mean, if you have kids together, what's what's the
39:40
problem? Like, it's not her saying that, it's her family saying your
39:45
family saying that. She said that, she said, my family thinks that
39:49
if he's not part of the family then right, He's like, and then
39:52
he'll lose his job. Right, But what's the why why would they have
39:55
that perspective when he's the father of their grandkids. What's the they're gonna be
40:00
co parenting anyway? It's ridiculous. I I hey, no counterpoint here.
40:05
I agree with And I think Jen is just kind of caught in this weird
40:08
loop with it, like she is in a loop of her own. Man.
40:14
Yeah, she looks so confused every time we see her. Well,
40:19
we're at Shannon's house getting ready for the party, which is the I'll do
40:22
you and you do Me party that Jen and Tamer are going to co host,
40:25
which is a very funny concept. And I love this party, probably
40:30
more than a lot of parties they've had. When it comes to costume party,
40:31
there's a never before seen seen when Shannon's getting ready. Is it on
40:37
peacock? Yes? Okay, what is it? The one of her daughters?
40:40
I forget which one comes down and Shannon asked her if she has panny
40:45
should wear pantyhose? Did you? Oh? That was in the real one,
40:49
And then the daughter and Shannon go back and forth because Shannon doesn't know
40:53
what panny or the daughter doesn't know what pantyhose are? Was that the one
40:57
that wasn't the one sold me a bill of goods? Said NBA, never
41:00
before seen that scene, was never before seen? That was in Peacock had
41:06
said that, and then screener. I wonder if it was cut out of
41:10
the real version. Oh wait, but you're saying you saw it, yeah,
41:16
but I saw it on the screener. Okay, oh interesting. Then
41:23
this goes back to my original idea. So I guess, Zack is that
41:27
they could absolutely add at the last Yeah, when she's like panic hoose panic,
41:35
and the daughter's so what is you know if she gave her She just
41:39
kept saying the word again at different tempos, and I was pany hose,
41:46
pante hose, pan tea, you don't know what pantyhose is. Well,
41:52
it's on you, Shannon, Okay, it's on you at this point,
41:55
you know, right, it's teach. I like, did she they're sheer?
42:04
There's they're tight. No, they're not tight, they're sheer. So
42:10
you were saying this was you love this party? I thought, I was
42:13
like, somebody is going to be very offended. I know at that party.
42:15
Well, and we know now that Gina is with with Shannon's because she's
42:21
on Twitter or she's on social media being like leave it to, she leave
42:24
it to she need to take the darkest beard in my life, and you
42:28
know, and she has a whole rant on social media, which you know,
42:32
I guess I understand what she's saying, but you gotta be able to
42:37
like just that Shannon thinks that I look or Gina looks like d Snyder.
42:47
That's terrible. And the whole thing was off. But I thought, like
42:55
everybody else that everybody Tamer nailed it. Oh that was so good. Heather,
43:01
Yeah, oh I loved it. And when the guy was doing her
43:05
makeup, she's like, how do I do? And he's like a lot
43:07
of contouring and she's like, oh my gosh, that's what she does and
43:10
he's like, no, Tamra for you. He's got to make her Heather's
43:15
exquisite cheekbones with a lot of contouring, exquisite cheekbones. I loved her commitment
43:22
to that. I love that she put everything in to do it. And
43:24
she's right, Taylor did not do her justice. She should have had like
43:29
a cut fitness hat. I mean, there's so much she could have done,
43:32
and she really dropped up with Taylor. That's just so Taylor. She
43:37
needed Heather Dubro to come over and coach her. She did an acting coach
43:42
to coach her on how to do tamra. She phoned it in barbells.
43:49
Really, I mean yeah, it was no. It was like also I
43:52
thought like maybe she was afraid to piss her off. Well Taylor, Yeah,
43:58
yeah, that's a good point, you know, when a pusser off
44:01
I did. I thought that Gina did a good job with Emily and Vicky
44:07
as Vicky was hilarious. Oh my god, Ah that was awesome. Keg
44:16
uh the keg stands to uh wow. Those were rough that were like really
44:22
disturbing, and the camera shot was I could watch them try to drink.
44:30
They were like licking the water. Yeah, they were water fountaining. They
44:37
weren't keg standing. They were water fountaining. Another everybody that's holding them up
44:43
is like shaking muscle and they're just like, you know, horizontal to the
44:47
ground. They're not even upside down. No, it's it was a disaster.
44:53
It was what you'd want to see realized, Like that's exactly what real
44:55
housewives would do if they were doing a keg stand. So yeah, or
45:00
anybody over twenty two mm hmm. I mean the fact that Vicky's still like
45:07
doing it whooa. She just comes in just trying, and then her little
45:12
takeaway, like her cutaway is like, I'm scared of daddy because less you
45:15
guys lie to shelebby. But I did like seeing that whole thing there with
45:21
them. Please do that list. Oh god, I took a screen list.
45:25
Oh my god. It was like a crazy things age fifty eight to
45:31
sixty three. Christian owed help into Petty Webby Entrepreneur, forward thinker, Have
45:37
Passport, love Lexico, love to travel, be divorced in the process,
45:40
have children, country Western boy love country music, Capashia a door, Vicky
45:46
make Vickie lab fight VICKI, I don't know what that says. And then
45:51
have fun together and then entrepreneur all the way through. I bet, but
45:59
you can't see is it just says entrepreneur again? Yeah? Just she to
46:04
work, loves to work. Oh my god, so so fun. Now
46:09
when they start doing this game, I was like, Okay, this is
46:14
where it kind of works, Like I know you and I see the same
46:17
thing with these ridiculous tropes of like let's go around these games and talk about
46:21
sex and how annoying it is. But this one was a little more elevated.
46:25
And the fact that they turned and said they were like the person to
46:30
your right, you have to lick the nipple of the person to your right.
46:32
I was like, you've got to be kidding me. I mean,
46:36
I have to say, I stand, I stand. These ladies of Orange
46:38
County. They've been around for a while. It's not just you know,
46:44
this is not their first rodeo. Like New York, the new cast of
46:46
New York. They shouldn't lean on those tropes. But I'm okay if the
46:51
Housewives of Orange County lean on it. They all know each other. They
46:54
don't always do stuff like that. And the fact that Emily just whipped down
46:59
her shirt and Taylor got in there and was like, give me a nipple
47:02
and I'll like it, like she just they just jumped right in there,
47:06
and I just was like, Okay, this is a party. I mean,
47:09
it was quite funny and I did have quite the laugh. I mean,
47:15
uh, it was definitely. I'm glad that they were down for it,
47:20
and it wasn't like four sons. I mean, but this would be
47:22
a bullet point in the lawsuit at this point. But the fact that there
47:25
was a lot of consent, Yeah, then I'm fine. Yeah, I'm
47:29
kind of with you on that. I kind of it's kind of like it
47:32
is part of their personality and the os the gals that were specifically at that
47:37
table at that moment, right, But like it's it's just like anything when
47:44
you see somebody try on a personality, all of a sudden, it does
47:47
it doesn't fit. That's what I kind of feel like, Uh, it's
47:52
becomes a trope. It becomes of a weird thing that these people are doing
47:55
that doesn't work for them. Yeah, so other times it does not work.
48:00
When we see the new Cast of New York doing it, it's like
48:04
this doesn't feel real organic. Yeah yeah, organic girls. Well, now
48:14
we really get into the whole Shannon, Heather, Emily Gina thing, and
48:20
you know, thankful to Tamarra for stirring it up and bringing it up.
48:23
Tamara asked Heather, if you said anything about Shannon's relationship with John and Shannon
48:29
really sticks to from beginning to end that she was very neutral about the relationship.
48:35
She even says it's to Shannon, she would never repeat what she was
48:37
told in the vault, and then Heather kind of throws the other gals under
48:40
the bus by saying, these girls say that you don't have a good relationship
48:44
and that you're hiding it. And Tamra whispers to Emily and Gina, did
48:50
Shannon express concern about her relationship? And they both say yes. Then Gina
48:59
says to Shannon, and I respect your boundaries. You're the one booking around
49:02
on my religion, yem I think you just Dian down. So now she
49:07
was like, you're concerned about my relationship with Travis. Shannon's like, you're
49:12
talking about my relationship with John, and but Shannon, Heather's doing the same
49:16
thing. And then Gina's like, why are you yelling it? It Heather
49:20
of You'll getsert and this whole thing was just an absolute mess. Shannon's yelling,
49:24
your boyfriend owes a you owe my boyfriend a huge fucking apology, which
49:30
I'm not sure about that, and then Gina says, your boyfriend owes you
49:34
a thousand apologies apparently for what everybody else is saying, and we're concerned about
49:37
you so now Shannon is losing her ever loving shit and she's like, I've
49:45
never been more alive, I've never heard more I I And then Emily's like
49:50
wood Jorn. So they're just going back and forth that Emily loses her shit
49:54
at Shannon when Shannon's trying to leave. Now, this was an interesting moment.
50:00
It like went from Shannon saying, I've never told you anything that was
50:04
two years ago, Emily two years ago, and Emily's like, no,
50:07
no, it was two months ago at Javier's and that long pause, and
50:10
then Shannon's like, yes, I okay, I don't know what I said.
50:16
I don't know what I said half years and then and so then it
50:22
becomes this whole thing where you're like, okay, so Shannon, she'll get
50:24
drunk and she'll say things that she doesn't remember. That's become very clear.
50:29
Now what are these guys gonna do with it? And this is where I
50:35
have to stand Shannon, because I was standing Shannon because I'm like, Okay,
50:40
you guys are bringing this up, and now you really are throwing her
50:43
relationship under the bus, and this is trouble. You know, this is
50:45
trouble because the second you bring this onto the show. Yeah, you know,
50:51
flush that relationship right down the toilet. And that's what Shannon's point is,
50:53
like, you guys are making the decision on where my relationship goes because
50:57
it's done, and so she doesn't know how she's gonna talk to John about
51:00
this. And then Emily's like, my relationship is private business, but I
51:05
share with you, Shannon. And then then it's just like, all of
51:08
a sudden, she it's not that bad. I mean, this is where
51:13
I was like feeling bad for Shannon because I was like, everyone's making this
51:15
such a big deal, and Shannon's like, oh my god. We just
51:20
argue, like we're just arguing. But then we get this montage of confessionals
51:27
with Emily saying like he's called her names and said that she's fat or unattractive,
51:34
Heather saying Shannon pace for everything. The family dynamic isn't great. He's
51:37
never slept over. I mean, then these gals are getting up into these
51:40
confessionals and they're really throwing it out there, and this is what's concerning.
51:45
So this is where I don't stand Shannon. It's like, Shannon, you're
51:52
on a reality show. You know what you signed up for John met you
51:57
well into your time on the OC on Real Housewives, he's got to know
52:02
what that is. And for him to put you in a position where he
52:07
is saying, I will benefit from your Housewives umbrella, but you can't talk
52:16
about the reality of our relationship. I think he's put her in a weird
52:22
position. I don't know why she's protecting it so hard because it doesn't seem
52:25
like it's a good relationship. I don't watch them together and think that they
52:30
enjoy each other. So I kind of think it's like, I almost feel
52:37
like drunk Shannon is putting out a cry for help. And then so where
52:43
Shannon's like, I don't feel like dealing with a breakup right now, Well,
52:45
she doesn't want to lose them. She loves him, and that's the
52:47
thing. That's here's the problem. I totally get what you're saying. And
52:52
when they got into those Confessionals Confessionals and they dropped that, I was like,
52:57
oh, well shit, I mean, I don't want Shannon to be
53:00
in a relationship where she's being talked to in that manner by any stretch of
53:06
the imagination. So you know, and on the flip side that Shannon really
53:08
loves him them. Absolutely. Yes, I don't think that she likes I
53:14
think she loves being in a relationship. Yes, I don't think she wants
53:16
to fail. She's I think one of those people that sees failing in relationships
53:22
as a personal issue, like she can't do it, she does it.
53:27
It's I don't think that she wants to be alone. I don't think that
53:30
she wants to break this up, considering many of their you know, them
53:35
being together for three and a half years, you know, for better or
53:37
worse. You know, their kids are involved at this point, you know.
53:40
I mean, it's here's the other thing, like with when Heather says
53:45
Shannon pays for everything, that's a cheap shot. To me, I just
53:47
thought, you know what, let if she's paying for stuff, they have
53:52
some sort of arrangement whatever like that to me was a little bit of a
53:57
cheap shot because that embarrasses she and John for that matter, that's not really
54:02
that big of a concern when it comes to like when Emily said he's called
54:07
her names. That's that to me is a red flag, and that's a
54:10
concern. Now. How I read that paying for everything was that Shannon must
54:15
have disclosed that to Heather, because it's not like Shannon and Heather hang out
54:20
with John and Terry all the time. So Shannon must have voiced that concern
54:25
to Heather is right that she doesn't like that, And if that's a concern
54:30
about Shannon's I get it. But that does seem like something that really should
54:34
stay in the vault. Like they really did expose some very dirty secrets about
54:39
their relationship, saying that he calls her names and that she's fat, the
54:44
fact that he's never slept over weird. Yeah, However, they also have
54:50
grown kids living in the house. That's a very complicated situation. Those kids
54:57
were just in Paris for how long? What do you get? Yeahon's kids
55:02
go away? Oh I see, okay, Well when they're not, when
55:07
it's an empty house, yeah yeah, yeah, okay, Well, I
55:10
mean that's a fine point. By the way, there was a great never
55:15
before seen did you see this? Did you see Vicky? No? Okay,
55:19
so she and Taylor in the kitchen complaining about the spread that there's not
55:22
real food. Oh no, oh no, it's a bullet point in the
55:29
lawsuit. Okay, And then well no, there was the most gorgeous Chikuteri
55:36
spread across the entire floor plan of the house. They were saying that it
55:40
wasn't sustenance, it wasn't real food, that they would but they were going
55:45
to order food. And I was like, oh my god, like wild
55:51
what we wouldn't give for that board? And then in a quick I just
55:54
wrote down real quick, Vicky Taylor complained about food. And then Vicky sadly
55:59
whoops it up for a bottle of wine outside in front of the cast and
56:02
is ignored. Oh you couldn't I saw the wine barn. They had no
56:07
time for Vickiy. No, she had to. She had to fly on
56:09
her own in this episode, and she did and she did, and good
56:13
for her and good for her well the sleeping over. You know, this
56:22
is so hard because like I really want this is where I'm showing a little
56:27
bit of bias. I'll say that, you know, and that is just
56:30
a little That's interesting that you would say a little bit. Okay, a
56:32
lot a lot. It's just that I really want Shannon to succeed and I
56:39
want her happiness to be protected, and so I feel quite protective over her.
56:45
Amy Phillips. She is succeeding, She's on a great show. No,
56:50
I know, a great business. I don't like her being flustered and
56:53
being like you know, and and they indeed, I'm broke up after this,
56:58
you know because in real time, remember then that breakup and they did,
57:01
oh for sure break up. But now they're back together. Are they
57:06
back together? I'm pretty sure they've been. They've been seen out together,
57:08
and yeah they're hobnobbing around. Well, look, maybe he figured some stuff
57:13
out, but I don't like the amount of control he was trying to put
57:16
on her. I agree with you and I And when Emily says, I
57:22
think, okay, she says, from what she told me, he's not
57:25
investing in their relationship, and I don't like she's wasting her time and she
57:29
can do better. Now that is a statement I can get behind. Yeah,
57:35
one hundred. But I guess I just am like, I don't care
57:38
about this guy in any real way. So he Shannon's telling someone these things
57:45
and they're listening. Yeah, I don't understand why Emily got so emotional.
57:53
I know she I think that she has a tendency to like fight fire with
57:59
fire. So Shannon was like, it's not that bad, and then she
58:02
was like I'm done. And then I think Emily was trying to escalate.
58:07
You know what I'm saying, like you match someone's energy, and Emily has
58:10
a tendency to do that, which I kind of love. It did seem
58:15
out of left field because I was like, why are you getting and She's
58:17
like, I share with you. And then I was like, well,
58:21
okay, that doesn't really have anything to do with it. But and then
58:24
Shan at the end says like, I do I have normal fights with my
58:29
boyfriend that, and I say that it paralyzes me. And I've talked about
58:31
that on camera, and she has talked about John Jansen, and yes,
58:37
I think she just was blindsided by all of us. That's the thing.
58:42
I keep watching it and thinking that we're missing something. I agree, because
58:49
the fact that she keeps running off camera to talk to the producers is weird.
58:52
We never have ever ever seen that. And the fact that she's protecting
58:58
everything so hard is there must have been something else that these ladies know that
59:02
they actually aren't saying that's in the vault exactly. And I also think Shannon's
59:07
afraid that it's getting too close to it. And then I just want I
59:12
just don't know what John has over Shannon that's making Shannon. Has he threatened
59:20
to sue her for example? Has does he have some crazy dirt on her?
59:24
I don't know, or does he know some shit on her kids?
59:28
Like I'm I shouldn't even I shouldn't even say that. I'm just saying all
59:32
of that. Yeah, but there's something weird. There's some weird reason why
59:37
Shannon is going nuclear on just being like, yeah, John and I have
59:42
got some stuff to work out. Whatever. It's bizarre, hmm. I
59:47
just don't think that she wants to break up. I don't think she wants
59:51
to lose this relationship. And I don't want any woman or man to be
59:57
in a relationship where they're not valued so and it sounds like she's not.
1:00:01
So I don't want her in this relationship. I want her to do better,
1:00:06
you know that. Being all that said, I would like to see
1:00:12
I'd like to know more, but I don't. I don't like seeing Shannon
1:00:15
so upset. I just feel like she can never get on top of things.
1:00:19
That's what pisses me off. It's like every season it's always like you
1:00:24
know, and I'm like, God, just give her a just give her
1:00:28
a season off, like she's constantly under hundred the gun. You know,
1:00:34
I don't know, and I don't want it to be a cheap shot at
1:00:37
her. But I like to think that it's not her desperation to be in
1:00:43
any relationship. She'll take it. I don't. I would like to think
1:00:46
it's not about that. I would like to think that Shannon is way more
1:00:51
in control, and maybe that she's afraid of John retaliating in some way.
1:00:58
Not basically they have broken up before and he certainly has had every opportunity to
1:01:01
retaliate. True, but all right, but I'm just saying, like going
1:01:07
back to that idea that if there's something that we don't know that if that's
1:01:10
right out, That's what I'm saying. So maybe since I didn't get out,
1:01:15
I mean, I don't know. Well, you're right, we don't
1:01:19
know. But now Heather calls out Emily for looking for stuff to get into
1:01:23
with her, and Emily's like, fair, okay, you got me on
1:01:25
that one. And then Gina's like everybody's Violina bold you can She was like,
1:01:34
you can't start chucking under the bus. All the people yeah about you,
1:01:38
And I was like, well, I don't. I don't know what
1:01:40
that means. I can't understand what you're saying. And then Emily says he's
1:01:46
gonna leave her if she talks about this shit, and then Gina's like,
1:01:50
well fuck him. So this is interesting because this is all now airing.
1:01:53
I'm curious to see how this is gonna pan out with Shannon and John,
1:01:57
and like, you know, I'm sure she gave him a real heads up
1:02:00
on what was going to happen, but yeah, who knows what Shannon knew
1:02:05
was gonna air about what all these ladies were going to say about him,
1:02:07
and you know, this will be interesting. I do like that. Emily
1:02:12
was like, give me a chance to be your friend. I'll be there
1:02:15
for you, and she has like, hey, it's not that bad.
1:02:17
You know. It is one of those things where I'm like, okay,
1:02:22
are you exaggerating it? Like as the Friends, you're exaggerating it so much
1:02:27
to make it such a storyline. And then the person's like, just it's
1:02:30
it's not that bad, Like it really isn't, so just chill out,
1:02:34
like step off, you know. Yeah, I mean, okay, let's
1:02:37
take Shannon and John's relationship out of this season. Okay, what else are
1:02:43
we talking about? Fitness? This cluss and Eddie's at home and chewing and
1:02:50
chewing. I mean that's everybody's problem, right. No one wants to hear
1:02:52
their pardon. I don't want to hear anybody cheo, no, or anyone
1:02:57
for that matter. I mean the Jen and Ryan thing is sort of happening,
1:03:00
and that's it. I guess that would be the season A new wife
1:03:05
and that we don't really know and everybody ganging up on her is sad,
1:03:10
so I maybe, yeah, yeah, they could just be falling on Shannon
1:03:17
to carry the season using her her relationship you know, is going to be
1:03:24
sacrificial lamb. But we shall see, uh brother well and jar Lings.
1:03:32
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1:03:50
No, Emily's off next week. I'm off. But Emily, by
1:03:52
the way, you did tell me. You did tell me this, and
1:03:55
it's so funny because I was like at pretend like it was the first time
1:03:58
I heard it yesterday but I had an my calendar. I know, I
1:04:01
knew you did. I'm just a scattered little mess pulling it together baby towards
1:04:05
in school. Now I'm gonna be a whole new mate. You're just watch,
1:04:09
just watch. Oh I can't wait. I mean, you're fine.
1:04:14
I don't know how you're doing everything you're doing now, So you're good.
1:04:17
I'm just chugging everybody under the bus. You're an entrepreneur. We'll have a
1:04:23
great time fly fishing, and I cannot wait to hear about it. It's
1:04:28
gonna be really exciting. I'm gonna have a lot of Bravo to catch up
1:04:30
on. Oh yeah that week. Yeah, so Gina's laughed during that game.
1:04:42
She's like, he I love it. I love it. The syllables
1:04:50
she's able to add into where yeah, it's a gift. It's a gift.
1:04:57
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