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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, February 26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeff Warris, did you don't talk with Jack Morris? Did
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  Speaker 1: you Jack Warres? Drive Time? Ryan Sex sexty John says
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  Speaker 1: it actually Jeff Warres Drive Time starts right now when
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  Speaker 1: we have a game plan before we go in every interview,
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  Speaker 1: and each player has a detailed game plan of what
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  Speaker 1: we want to find out in that fifteen minutes. So
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  Speaker 1: certain players we might know everything about their background, but
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  Speaker 1: we want to get them on the board or watch
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  Speaker 1: the video. For him, it's probably their first job interview
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  Speaker 1: they've ever had, um for most of them, but it's important.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's the next phase of their life, the next
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  Speaker 1: phase of their career. And this is really the Dave
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  Speaker 1: Caldwell Show this week is the Jaguars get set to
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  Speaker 1: head the Indianapolis and the twenty nineteen NFL Combine. There
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  Speaker 1: was a day when none of that was there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about the stadium. I'm talking about the tents
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  Speaker 1: outside and the extra security and the signs hanging. The
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  Speaker 1: combine was the place where the scouts got together and
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  Speaker 1: just did the dirty work, the stuff that needed to
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  Speaker 1: get done, the heights and the weights and the medical checks,
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  Speaker 1: and there wasn't anything sexy about it, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: look at it now, it's like a mini super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome in Jags drive time on a
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday here in North Florida. The people next to me
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  Speaker 1: are getting set to get on an airplane and head
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  Speaker 1: to Indianapolis, where it's getting busier and busier by the day. John,
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  Speaker 1: we probably have this, probably this conversation every year, good
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  Speaker 1: oppression about what this thing has become. But you covered
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  Speaker 1: it when you were here in Jacksonville in the early days,
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  Speaker 1: back when there really was no coverage, and then in
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  Speaker 1: India now today, I guess you're probably not surprised at
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  Speaker 1: what it's become, because no one's surprised by what the
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  Speaker 1: NFL does. But it is still kind of head scratching
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  Speaker 1: it how big the underwear Olympics have become. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not so old as to be in the really old
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  Speaker 1: writer group. They covered it, you know before. That's a
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  Speaker 1: stretch because covering it was sitting in the hotel lobby
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  Speaker 1: across the street. You weren't allowed in the building. Right
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  Speaker 1: you went to there was a there's a train, uh
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  Speaker 1: station slash hotel down way down. You know what I
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  Speaker 1: think of his way down in Indy and that's where
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  Speaker 1: the writers would go because where the players stayed. But
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  Speaker 1: there were no cameras. Uh. I do predate the podium access.
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  Speaker 1: There was a time when the players were not brought
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  Speaker 1: in for interviews that that was necessary off limits. But
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  Speaker 1: you had to go there and you maybe got one
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  Speaker 1: or two guys that you really worked for. UM and
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  Speaker 1: I certainly predate the time where coaches were available. Coaches
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  Speaker 1: and general managers were available. So yes, why did you go?
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  Speaker 1: You basically chased down your guys. I can remember talking
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  Speaker 1: to Tom Coughlin as he was on his way to
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  Speaker 1: mass on Saturday night, after three or four days of
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  Speaker 1: trying to get him, calling Dan Edwards, Hey, where's Tom
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  Speaker 1: gonna be? Uh, and then him the first thing he
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  Speaker 1: said when he saw me was like, my cap figured out, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: because I had. I've been writing about the salary cap
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. So that was sort of the combine
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  Speaker 1: it was. You went. It was like the old owners
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  Speaker 1: meetings where you basically went and you tried to chase
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  Speaker 1: down a few guys, try to get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of information, but there was not the media access. Now
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  Speaker 1: it's become a touchstone point for the media in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL League year in the sense that you get an
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  Speaker 1: update on on on. Most teams are at the podium,
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  Speaker 1: meaning they're people are speaking, which Dave called well and
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  Speaker 1: Doug Marron will speak. But there was certainly a time
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  Speaker 1: where this was a vastly different event. The big turn was,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it was it was two thousand
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  Speaker 1: to two thousand three when they decided to let the
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  Speaker 1: television cameras in for the workouts. In the nineties. That
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  Speaker 1: would have been absolutely something that would have never been done.
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  Speaker 1: When you talk to football people, they said, television cameras
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  Speaker 1: will ruin the combine, it will never happen. What it
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  Speaker 1: did instead was it improved the combine because now guys
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  Speaker 1: always run, almost always work out. Back in the day, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: these guys didn't. The story was always well who's running? Well,
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  Speaker 1: now they all run the forty because they're scared not to,
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  Speaker 1: and time to get you in here. Take a breath, John,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely indies man, right here, it's okay. I just I
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  Speaker 1: was amazed at how you just kept running. I can
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  Speaker 1: go if you keep talking talking. Absolutely, Uh Hi, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just realized that this week you will gain an
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  Speaker 1: experience that I've never had in the NFL because I've
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  Speaker 1: never gone to cover the combine. I've always draft or
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  Speaker 1: Senior Bowl other things. I've just never taken the time
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  Speaker 1: to go to Indie for it. So you'll have to.
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  Speaker 1: Now you can have a little experience on me. I'll
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  Speaker 1: fill you in. Yeah, I wouldn't be able to say, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know the first combine you go to, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you how to do it right exactly. Let's hit
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  Speaker 1: big things and get started. We'll go right back to John.
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  Speaker 1: All right, big thing one, no surprises. The combine Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: schedule is a big one. We'll here dug Morown and
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  Speaker 1: Dave Cobba on the podium. Dug rown and Dave Cabill
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  Speaker 1: also join John and I live on Facebook. The importance
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  Speaker 1: here is that this is the first time we've heard
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  Speaker 1: heard Dave Cobbell speak in quite a while, before even
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  Speaker 1: the start of last football season is the last time
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  Speaker 1: we heard from Dave. Like portals will be addressed, Nick
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  Speaker 1: Foles will be addressed, getting a quarterback possibly in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: that's also going to be addressed. So it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things to say for Dave, and it's something that
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  Speaker 1: we haven't heard in quite a while so you know, John,
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  Speaker 1: for all the history of the combine and where it is,
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  Speaker 1: the reality of it is is that the throwing, the running,
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  Speaker 1: the drills, that's That's not what the combine really is
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  Speaker 1: all about. It's the interviews that Dave talked off the
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  Speaker 1: top and the medical checks. The opportunity for your doctors
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  Speaker 1: and physical guys, uh, the strength coaches and and the
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  Speaker 1: medical trainers to you know, to get a look at
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  Speaker 1: some of these guys. I have nothing left to say.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, come onive sensitive John. It actually is at
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  Speaker 1: its heart. When you talk to football people, they consider
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  Speaker 1: the medical examinations number one with a bullet in this thing,
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  Speaker 1: even past the interviews because they can get the interviews
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  Speaker 1: at another time. A lot of these guys have already
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  Speaker 1: talked to people at the Senior I mean, I be
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  Speaker 1: general managers, scouts have talked to players at the Senior Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: They will get a chance to come in if if
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  Speaker 1: if they're targeting guys to bring I think it's thirty
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  Speaker 1: guys in UH, they can have on campus visits. So
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  Speaker 1: they've gotten to know these guys a lot. The interviews
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  Speaker 1: are important, but it's the medical because it gets every
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  Speaker 1: team doctor a chance to do the physical examinations on
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  Speaker 1: the guys. That's the information that they really want. And
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  Speaker 1: that's why Indie is such an important spot because all
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  Speaker 1: of the medical stuff, all of the hospitals they need
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  Speaker 1: to get guys to, are right in downtown Indianapolis. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the biggest fear for trying to move it somewhere
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  Speaker 1: is if they lose those logistics, then it becomes a
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  Speaker 1: much more cumbersome process. Wrap up the whole combine with
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  Speaker 1: this um the ratings and the popularity of the game,
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  Speaker 1: and you can measure it many different ways. But I
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  Speaker 1: use the combine to explain to people just how strong
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  Speaker 1: the hunger for professional football is. Because you've got guys
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  Speaker 1: running around, uh in shorts and T shirts. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even a practice, right, It's guys that some
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  Speaker 1: of them you know their names, maybe a small handful,
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  Speaker 1: most of them no clue, you know. And yet people
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  Speaker 1: will watch this and they will draw better ratings for
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  Speaker 1: the combine than for an NBA game, or a hockey game,
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  Speaker 1: or a Major League Baseball game. The underwear Olympics, is
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  Speaker 1: they have been dubbed, are immensely popular. I'm not interested
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  Speaker 1: in the running side of it, the throwing side of
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  Speaker 1: it really at all, and yet so many people want
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  Speaker 1: to know what's going on at the combine, not to
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  Speaker 1: me really explains just the depth of the NFL's roots
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  Speaker 1: in our society. Well, I think if it's presented well,
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  Speaker 1: it's antifl Network is a nice job of presenting it,
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  Speaker 1: and in the past when Mike Mayock has been on it,
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  Speaker 1: it's been very, very good in terms of the analysis
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  Speaker 1: of the players. My sense and my hope is that
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  Speaker 1: that's what people are are tuning in for, just as
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  Speaker 1: much as actually to watch the guys around the forty
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  Speaker 1: is a chance all weekend to sort of gather information
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  Speaker 1: on the draft, to hear people talk about it, to
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  Speaker 1: hear the analysis. But you see what I'm saying. Don't
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  Speaker 1: people have better things to do with their lives then
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  Speaker 1: here analysis on college football players, most of whom won't
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  Speaker 1: make it. Yes, But I think it's the chance that
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  Speaker 1: your favorite NFL team might take that one player that
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  Speaker 1: you have to be paying attention to. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, is is that this which is not sporting,
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  Speaker 1: really has drawn the sporting public in at a greater
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  Speaker 1: level than the other professional sports have, which just goes
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  Speaker 1: to show you the depth of the NFL. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the importance of the medical evaluation.
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  Speaker 1: We were with Dave Cobble yesterday talking about the combine
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  Speaker 1: experience and it was really focused on the interview aspect
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  Speaker 1: of it. And I was hyping up because I've read
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  Speaker 1: all week about how important the fifteen minute interview is.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, but we have fifteen minutes. But
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  Speaker 1: if we really want to know something about a play there,
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  Speaker 1: we can go find him and ask. So I mean
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  Speaker 1: made this hype up NFL network fifteen minute interview and
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  Speaker 1: really it's all medical for the most part. Yeah, that's true. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Big thing too, Big thing too is the quarterbacks. The
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  Speaker 1: major story, of course of the combine will be Kyler Murray,
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  Speaker 1: Dayne Haskins, all the other quarterbacks that could go in
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  Speaker 1: Round one. And just once Kyler Murray declared that he
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  Speaker 1: would be in the NFL Draft and participating in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Combine, it has taken a whole new storm to
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  Speaker 1: this storyline. But I mean, he's the major storyline of
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  Speaker 1: this combine. Question, John, any doubt he's the first round pick? Um? No,
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  Speaker 1: not a first round pick. I do doubt you can
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  Speaker 1: see a scenario easily where he's a top five pick,
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  Speaker 1: or you can see a scenario where he's the story
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  Speaker 1: of him sliding because teams are just so worried about it.
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  Speaker 1: But top pick right, first round pick, top story, certainly,
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  Speaker 1: but a top sure. I think most people would agree
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  Speaker 1: on that. So if I'm him, I asked the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: if you want me to throw, then where's my scratch? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Because everyone's going to tune in to watch this kid throw.
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  Speaker 1: They put it on Saturday to increase their Saturday ratings.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm Kyler Murray, Dwayne Haskins, I'm thinking, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 1: have a little something for the effort here. Huh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame because that's what everyone's tuning into. I
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  Speaker 1: mean a tongue in cheek, but the reality of it
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  Speaker 1: is is that the quarterback storyline is big because of
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  Speaker 1: all the guys who are in the bucket for possible
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  Speaker 1: first round pick. And then you've got Murray, who is
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  Speaker 1: as compelling a story as I can remember heading into
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  Speaker 1: the combine. He's a guy. It could be interesting to
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  Speaker 1: see how people react if he doesn't throw, because does
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  Speaker 1: he need to? You've seen his arm well, but there
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  Speaker 1: is an issue with him with hand size. Size of
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  Speaker 1: the NFL ball is different. If if there's anything that
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  Speaker 1: people are now focusing on with him, the bulk thing
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  Speaker 1: has sort of faded a little bit because the word
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  Speaker 1: is he's tuned in five tun and six pounds, which
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  Speaker 1: is important. But um, I heard Tony Boselli say a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago that when you look at him,
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  Speaker 1: he just looks little and the ball looks a little
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  Speaker 1: you know why the ball looks big in his hands.
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  Speaker 1: He's just a small human being to be playing in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL quarterback position. So um, if he goes out
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  Speaker 1: there and just has sort of a it looks little moment,
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  Speaker 1: does that hurt him? You know, I can't imagine that
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  Speaker 1: it Actually, I'm not a big believer that the combine
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  Speaker 1: truly pushes guys as far up and down draft boards
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  Speaker 1: as the media makes it out to be. Because but
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  Speaker 1: with him, if if, if you're talking about a perception
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  Speaker 1: pick and about a team that's just sort of worried
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  Speaker 1: about taking it because there it's a risk there, you
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  Speaker 1: do wonder if having that moment where you look little
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  Speaker 1: on a big stage would hurt I doubt it, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe his participation will have meat turning on. And there's
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  Speaker 1: only one other time I've ever watched the combine. I
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  Speaker 1: read everything and talk to people, but I watched when
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  Speaker 1: Leonard ran a couple of years ago because I was
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  Speaker 1: curious how fast he would run. I'll watch him on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday throw because it's as well. And look, I don't
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  Speaker 1: watch much college football. I catch up on it all
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  Speaker 1: during this time of the year, but when Oklahoma was on,
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  Speaker 1: I watched because he's such a compelling athlete. It shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be this way with him, but it will. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: get picked apart whatever GM drafts him, and it's going
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  Speaker 1: to take a GM with guts to go against the
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  Speaker 1: old school grain. So that's why I say that there
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  Speaker 1: may be more perception in this pick and worried about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't look at the combine. Well, what are my
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  Speaker 1: friend GM is gonna say if I drafted you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm exaggerating that, but a little bit of the
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  Speaker 1: perception of how can you take this guy when he
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  Speaker 1: looks like this, meaning how small he is. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if he'll have a big deal, but maybe with
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  Speaker 1: him gonna have more of a deal than it would
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of other players. All right, and it's
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  Speaker 1: not the same size wise, but I can recall last
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  Speaker 1: year in Baker Mayfield was at the Combine. Everyone was
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  Speaker 1: talking about he's not the pro style quarterback, and yeah
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  Speaker 1: he was short, but not as short as Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 1: But look how that turned out for him in the
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  Speaker 1: same system. We'll find out. All right, big thing three
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  Speaker 1: is on the clock already, the cap is the deadline
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  Speaker 1: for the cap is quickly approaching. We keep talking about
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  Speaker 1: adding all these players we just talked about the Combine
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  Speaker 1: and the draft, but none of them have been cut
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  Speaker 1: yet to clear the room for the players that this
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  Speaker 1: team wants to at. There were a couple of players
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  Speaker 1: around the league yesterday that were informed that they were
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  Speaker 1: going to be released. Uh, nothing from Jacksonville, but just
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  Speaker 1: you know, some notable guys who were told they would
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  Speaker 1: not be brought back, some in Carolina. UM. And the
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  Speaker 1: reality of it is that this next week, next ten
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  Speaker 1: day really about addition the draft. UM. But then we've
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  Speaker 1: gotta start talking about some traction around here with guys
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  Speaker 1: who have big salary cap numbers. And the Jaguars are
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  Speaker 1: still at this moment in negative salary cap territory, they've
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  Speaker 1: got to start clearing some room and that will become
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  Speaker 1: the next story. Yeah, and uh, they know they're going
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  Speaker 1: or at the very least, it's now down to a
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  Speaker 1: few Plan A, Plan B, Plan C. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it will be very hard to get to because
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  Speaker 1: they do know the plan. I don't think like Boils
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  Speaker 1: will be back, and I think Millie Jackson'll be back.
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  Speaker 1: Those are some others, and those are the two biggest
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  Speaker 1: that gets you down really close to where you need
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  Speaker 1: to be. And because you just need to get to
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  Speaker 1: zero at this point, I mean, you can clear you
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  Speaker 1: don't have to be technically being in the cab by
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  Speaker 1: Mars thirteenth. They don't have to have all the cap
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  Speaker 1: room that they want to have. But the combine is
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  Speaker 1: a time when they've called well of the world. He
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  Speaker 1: and his counterparts will get together with the agents for
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  Speaker 1: the veteran free agents that they have and just veteran
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  Speaker 1: players and start talking about restructuring, which is another area
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  Speaker 1: of creating cap room. It's one that I get wary
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  Speaker 1: of because we've seen it really go south Jacksonville before.
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  Speaker 1: But if you've got the right player and can do
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  Speaker 1: the right deal. Some of that restructuring could take place
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  Speaker 1: over the next few days too. I can't imagine, Brian,
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  Speaker 1: that we're going to see the massive restructuring, massing, massive
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  Speaker 1: push out that we saw in the late nineties and
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  Speaker 1: early two thousand. I would be on board with you
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  Speaker 1: of being very concerned about that, but I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: that you'll have more than one, two, three of those,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it will be. When the Jaguars did
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  Speaker 1: that in the late nineties, they became the prototype of
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  Speaker 1: what not to do, and I don't think you see
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  Speaker 1: as many teams do that in such a dangerous, risky
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  Speaker 1: fashion as they did at that point. No, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the idea that you've always got to have your eye
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  Speaker 1: on three years from now and not in. They went
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  Speaker 1: all in salary cap wise and signed Carnell Lake, Gary Walker,
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  Speaker 1: Kyle Brady, and what that did was put them in
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  Speaker 1: a position where a few years later they couldn't compete.
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  Speaker 1: So again, I don't see that happening here. Lessons learned, um,
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  Speaker 1: But you've got to be careful with the restructures because
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  Speaker 1: if a guy gets hurt and you can't have him
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  Speaker 1: on your roster. All that money you push out comes
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  Speaker 1: into a into the year. You have to release him right,
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  Speaker 1: and creates a mess. You're scarred by the late nights. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: actually give him a hug. It was the it was
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  Speaker 1: the early part. It was the early part. Two thousand two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. I get fans out there
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  Speaker 1: who lived through it, right, They've never fully recovered from it.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean the guy a break. Yeah, let's see.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here. I hope it doesn't happen to you. I
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  Speaker 1: am here, all right, let's take a break. What's next?
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  Speaker 1: What are we do when we come? Just what we need? More?
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• 18:38
  Speaker 1: tell me it was a lie. But uh yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: I could, if I could take, if I can get
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  Speaker 1: from some of my speed, he give me some of
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  Speaker 1: that just natural ability that he have. I think we
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  Speaker 1: would be having a pretty good understanding. There's a guy
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  Speaker 1: that Jaguars have a couple of questions about, hopefully he
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  Speaker 1: can find that speed and hands and everything it takes
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  Speaker 1: FELL from a guy that we have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: questions about to a guy that we have a couple
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  Speaker 1: of questions for him the transition, I'll give you that.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: There's no combines for that question. I knew you. I
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  Speaker 1: remember him being fast. I've heard of forgotten the four three.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't play that fast last year as a wide receiver. No,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: but don't we always talk about them nicky receivers struggled
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to come in and slate to their great attributes. I mean,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Julio Jones is a rare exception, but most of them
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: do because they're learning in NFL office, which is much
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: more intricate. He walked in here yesterday, was walking through
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the gate and I was walking in, and he stopped high.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: How are you? How's your off season going? Just such
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: a personable kid. But the thing I couldn't help as
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I walked behind him and his girlfriend is think his boy,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that Jaggers really need this kid this year because he
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: looks like an NFL receiver. Yes, he is tall, he's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: got broad shoulders, he's got length in the arms, in
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: the hands. He's got everything he needs to succeed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him in the hall and I thought, okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: this big important player in this and he looks a
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: little more comfortable, which happens with the rookies. You know,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: they come back and you've been away for a little while,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: a little more of a feeling that it it's his time,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: his team, he belongs Hopefully for him, that will raise
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  Speaker 1: his comfort and he'll be what his physical attributes show
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  Speaker 1: he can be. Yeah. The best was after we sat
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: down with him. He goes, Man, you guys are here
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: all year. You work all year. And I'm like, yeah,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: we're here almost, you know, Monday through Friday. He goes,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I pulled into the parking lot and I couldn't believe
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  Speaker 1: all the cars that were here. Never forget every day exactly.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: They don't. They don't quite grasp that concept because they
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: don't have to. Someday, lots of them do. We gotta
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: laugh out of it, man, you guys are here. It's
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  Speaker 1: still yeah, we're still here. You know what I was
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  Speaker 1: impressed with He wore did you see his shoes up?
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  Speaker 1: Red shoes? And I told him, you're only waist up
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  Speaker 1: Jordan's or not. They were huge shoes, and outside of
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• 21:13
  Speaker 1: could pull off big red shoes. The Angels have my redes. Okay,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: here we go Travis High Springs, Florida. Last year during
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: training camp, there are a lot of statements made about
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a s J being one of b B five's favorite targets,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: making big plays and being a better blocker than initially thought.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: He obviously got injured early and didn't play much, But
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: do you think they may be giving up on him
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: too soon? You know, I wrestled with this because in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: one sense maybe, but it just feels Brian like they
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: need to reset the tight end position, and I keep
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: saying that Blake borders it. Sometimes it's just time to
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: move on. It feels that way with tight end that
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: they need to get I think they need to draft
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: in the first two rounds. I'm more and more leaning
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: towards if if you trade back a couple of spots
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: but taken maybe even in the first round, to get
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that position right. It's becoming such an important position in
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL. Uh. It just feels like they need a
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: fresh start, new direction. Let's get this thing the way
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: we want to get it. And with the hype of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: t J. Hawkins. And I've heard that even if you
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: stay at seven, he's that good of a guy that
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you can say at seven and take him there. He
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: might be gone before that too. He's really climbing up.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: So John, my sense is that there's a personality issue there. Um.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I loved him because he would stand there and tell
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you anything he thought. I didn't get the sense that
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that was always well received. You know, he made a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: comment again, this was well received. He was asked a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: question if your call, about his alcoholism and his troubles
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: with that, and he looked at the media down in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the TV studio where we do news conferences one day
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: after training camp and said, all we're gonna have this
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: conversation once. Don't ever ask me about it again. So
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: he had a little locker room lawyer to him, And
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you know that doesn't always go over as well. There's
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not as much room for that in in every NFL
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: locker room. And I just kind of got the sense
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that he didn't necessarily fit from a personality perspective. I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: think that was part of it. He also, you know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: he's been injured, had to stand the field and past
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: stops and in place five games six million dollars to stop. UH.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: At some point do they look at him and say, Okay,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: we think this is what he is. We need young
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: reliable guy at that spot. I would think that probably
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: tips the balance a little more than what you're talking about,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: although I think that's a factor as well. Well. You're
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: talking about bringing in a young tight end. UH. Coaches
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they know these guys and how they fit with where
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: they're going, and perhaps they just didn't see it. No not,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: perhaps they didn't see it, which is why they moved on.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: The salarycap though was also an issue. Is a six
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: million dollar head there four or five million under? I
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: mean you you need to move on from some of
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: those veterans that you aren't absolutely rock solid certain of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: about their place in your organization and on your team,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and they chose him to be John. I get why
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you wrestle with it, because I remember last August he
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was like the topic of our show many shows was
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: their relationship with Blake and how honest and at times blunt,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: but we appreciated in the media how honest he was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: with us. Yes, I get why it's it's a good
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: question from Travis because yeah, yeah, I mean you do.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You don't want to see a guy that you saw
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: so much potential from necessarily walk but that may be
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: an indicator of where where they might be going early
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: in the draft. Also, Tom puts a premium on availability. Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: it wasn't available. All right, Let's go to Chapel Hill
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina with Geba. If the Jags signed Nick
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Foles and then Ohio State quarterback Dwayne Haskins falls and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that number seven overall, what would you say the chance
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they draft him ten percent him falling at number seven. Yeah,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's out of the question. He falls
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: number seven because the draft plays out in weird way
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and send it takes Murray above him, you usually see
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: him fall into seven. I think it's about I think
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty low percentage chance that they go Folds
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and a first round quarterback, but that could depend on
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: just how much they're infatuated with Haskins. You signed Folds
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: in this scenario, you signed Folds assuming that he's going
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: to be your guy for a couple of years. So
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: it makes quarterback non essential on draft day. But if
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: you've scouted this guy and you love him and you
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: think he's franchise material, Uh, that could be the curve
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: ball of the draft. If it comes up. I would
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: still put it very, very low, but I could see
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: them maybe maybe doing it. Here's why I go a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: little bit higher. And I mean we've talked about developing
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks used the Chiefs example the last couple of weeks
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and how many years they recycled other teams and Niners
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks in particular. But when you look at a franchise,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: look at Cleveland and all the cap space they have.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: This franchise that didn't have a franchise quarterback for years,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: had the cap room to maneuver and add players in
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: free agency. A rookie quarterback is a valuable asset because
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: if they're any good, they're playing at a fixed cost.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Nick Foles comes in. If he does and we're not
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: saying that we know for sure that's the case, he's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: going to play a twenty million or more, and that
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: rookie quarterback is more valuable than Nick Foles to me.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get the situation where they're at because
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they want to win now and they've got defensive players
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and salary cap tied up and winning now. But man,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you've got to have your eye on the future. And
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: if Haskins is a guy that has a grave that
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: deserves to go at number seven and they like him,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: well it should be a hundred percent. I get it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You know people are gonna say, they say, well, why
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: don't you draft the tight end. I mean, you've got
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to give false weapons. We absolutely, but you can get
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that later in the draft possible. But to me, well,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to me, you you have to take the young quarterback.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: You have to take that. Yeah, I mean it's a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: strong argument, and but I'm with you. I don't think
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: it's likely if they take Folds. Just hard to see
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: them actually doing it because then you've got fold without
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: enough weapons. Yeah. So, I mean it's uh, I instinctively
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: completely agree with you. I just don't think they would
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: do it. You're answering the question the way he asked it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: What do you think the percentage is if it happens.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is is that I wouldn't pass on
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the quartership. If you don't have one, do not pass
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback? And you, well you got foals. Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: that's someone else's quarterback and make you no idea how
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: he'll play next year. And you know what, no knock
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: on him, right, he's not here. So this is the fact.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: In November, we went to Kansas City and Alex Smith
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: was injured and so nick Foles started. That was not
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: a good Jacksonville team, if you recall the fact it
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: got the coach fired. It was not very good at all.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: And yet they made Nick Foles look as average is
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: average could be the only reason that Jaguars lost the
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: game that day was because they had four turnovers, right,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and Chris I refumbled at a goal line in what
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: should have been a go ahead touchdown in the second half.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I wasn't all then impressed with Nick Foles. Right now,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: he's playing with a coach that fits him perfectly and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a system that fits what he does, and he's played great.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's better, I don't know, but I'd be really
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: scared based on what I saw. Personally, I'd take Haskins
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: or I take Murray if I think those guys have
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: the grade and belong that If they're yeah, it's it's
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: a theoretically you're dead on never passing a quarterback, never
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: pass on the quarterback. That's a reality you need. All right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: let's go to Mike from Atlanta. I forgot that Dante
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Moncrief was on the roster. The Jaguars have three receivers
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: definitely worth keeping Marquisley, D D. Westbrook and D J.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Chark Jr. Do you think they will bring in another
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: mid level veteran receiver. May have forgotten too because he's
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: counting his nine. I think he's okay, Yeah, he's fine.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah. I think they will bring in a mid
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: level veteran of of some ILK. I don't think it
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: will be nearly the cost. I think it be nearly
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the frontline guy that Moncrief was. UM. I think Keel
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and Cole will have more of an opportunity. I mean
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: maybe fans have written him off a little bit. I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: think he'll have a very real opportunity to show that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: he can get back to his rookie level, to get
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: back to that six yard guy that he was as
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: a rookie. UM. I think they'll need one more element
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: in the receiving corps to be productive next year. And
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think that where they'll be able to draft receiver,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: which at this point I can't see them taking it
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: high in the draft. I don't think that they will
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: get it in mid round. So I think unless they
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: surprise me and go first second round with it, then
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I think it will be a veteran guy coming in
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with the hope that he can give you, that he
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: can be the guy to to step in and a pinch.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I think the availability of Marquis Lee is going to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: be the telltale factor for how much time an effort
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: they spend in the veteran free agent market. UM. I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: was walking out one day last week and Marquis was
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: walking in and he looked at me. He goes, you
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna be ready? And I said, well,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I said was it didn't look like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you would be ready. That was a serious injury. And
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: he said, I'll be ready. And I said, Marky's Everyone
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: says that there's never a player coming back from the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: A c L that's cautious with it to go. I'll
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: be ready. I'm you know, I want to practice. They
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: all say that, will you be ready? That was a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: serious injury. He said, I'll be ready. I'm ahead of schedule.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I said, they all say that too. He smiled he
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: goes you know me, and I said, I know you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: and I love him. He's a great dude, fantastic guy. Um,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I hope he is. If he is ready, right, be
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: surprised because that was a serious injury. But if he's ready,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about it as much. You
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: you spend more time focusing on the development of the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: big boy, because if he's ready, then they really have
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: something DJ Stark when they maybe as much as Taven
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Brian Uh. How DJ plays this year will determine whether
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: their approach last year in the draft was a success
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: or folly, if you will. Because they drafted DJ Chark
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: with the idea of a first round grade that he'd
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: be developing. Shouldn't be any question that he starts this
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: year none, right, um, which he didn't start last year.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So he's got to start this year and he's got
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to be much closer to a one than he ever
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: showed last year. You can do that, as you said,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you're two guys developed, but that will show whether they
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: were smart or where they were foolish. Let's not forget,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: by the way, that he missed a big chunk of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the season with the quad injury and He's a guy
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that was on the rise if you talk to coaches
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and other players on the practice field. So his development
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: was stunted by that to a degree. Oh one more
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: thing on DJ Chark though that we have to point out.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: He was an absolute terror on special team. Long fast
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: got down there on punt coverage and may play after
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: play after play. And the one plan it's escaping me
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: was at the Houston game where he it was the
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: huge game where he forced the fumble right when the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: guy moved it, so he didn't force it. It was
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: muffed and he backed up. Do you remember that he
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: backed up? And I remember the coaches on the side,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I go, WHOA did you see that? The body control
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: that he showed. The The expectation for him is very high.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: He's a key okay, yeah, because it was about you.
• 32:26
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• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Campbell leads the way. What a stud pretty good stuff.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Not just a great player, but I mean what a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: fantastic human being, A lot of fun to be around him. Well,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: that stat shows you he grades high in all areas.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Edge rusher is getting so tied in with sack number.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: He's a great pass rusher, but his unbelievable value is
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that he everything at the position well, and he's more
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: than just an edge guy. What Miller mac all all
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: pros Campbell should have been too. Yes, absolutely, all right,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: let's go to Peter Peter Schraeger from Good Morning Football.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That's a top twister. Good discussion on Good Morning Football.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson decided not to run the forty a year
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: ago at the combine. Could Cayler Murray declined height and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: weight measurements this year? Yes he could? Should he though?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Absolutely not? And I'm I saw this tweet
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and I saw the discussion around it, and I forget
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: who said this, and I apologized, but they made a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: good point. Lamar Jackson declined to run the forty last year.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: My understanding is because he didn't want to be portrayed
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. It was a perception, is right, um,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And that makes sense. You know, you don't want to
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: go there and run the four two and all of
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: a sudden people are talking about well, so there was
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a percession. The there is no perception like that involved
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: with this. If Kyler Murray runs, I mean, if Kyler
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Murray measures five six, they're not gonna say let's have
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: him play kicker. It's gonna be well. So at some
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: point that's going to come out. They all know Lamar
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Jackson is fast. It was not going to be a
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: negative if he was fast or slow. So it also,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: in Lamar Jackson's point of view, wasn't really pertinent to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: his conversation. This is very pertinent Kyler Murray's conversations. Well,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and look, good morning football. If you've ever watched it,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: they come up with different things like this. There's never
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: been a player who's who said I won't get on
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the scale, I won't stand and have you measured me? Um.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So it's a bit out there as a thought, but
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it's great banter for conversation. The reality of it is
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: is that his agent came out last week and said
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he's two hundred and five pounds. All right, Well, if
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: your agents saying that, then you gotta step on the scale,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: improve it. And while you're there, we're just gonna measure you. Right,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: he needs to be His height is what his height is.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: His weight is something obviously that he and his agent
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: and whatever coach he trusts will decide, you know, the target.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's two in, maybe it's two or five right
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: wherever they figure he can play his game. That will
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: be the issue. Right because of the durability of the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: NFL and him getting hit. He can't do anything about hype,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: but he can do something. He'll get on the scale.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: The guests here, though, is that you know there's just
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: something about him that doesn't look as thick as Russell
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Wilson um and has been in comparison. That's gonna you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Russell was I think of the commines, that's what he's Yeah,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: and again I don't know medically what that means, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that's going to be the discussion among jams. Does he
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: get closer his boy? He just doesn't look quite like
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson? Did you know? I had a conversation with
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: a scout in December and at that point he hadn't
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: even declared that he was going to play, and most
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: people thought. The conversation went like this, can he make
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: plays on the edge in our league? In college football,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: he could run away from those guys, But in our game,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he's going to get hit. And if he gets hit,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: which he didn't get a lot of at Oklahoma, will
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: he be durable? Can he play every Sunday in the NFL.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: That's the decision process that they've got to come to
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray. And you may not know until he
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: actually plays. And that's that is the point that you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: just made, is one that when I write it, when
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: you talk about it with a lot of observers, they
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: dismiss it as just another factor. It's the factor with
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: him because you know he can throw and you know
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: he can play, and it's one that a lot of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: gms can't get around. Is I don't know if this
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: kid is going to be on the field for me
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: every Sunday. It's risky. It is all right, let's finish
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it off with some positivity, Unique and dock Way because
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: we did this out yesterday. Can the season come yet? John?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: You were asking this the other day, football season. I'm
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: miss I really was. I was thinking, boy, I wish
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it was training game. Everybody. I said that to you. Brian, Yeah, boy,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for August. I would think you can't
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: wait for Nay, there's nothing. I don't look forward to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: anything really except football except football season. Boy. Well, that's
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: that's one player that you can count on. That Oh
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that he's I mean, he's just always wound up. And
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: by the way I mean he's he's playing for a
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: new deal, so he wants to get through that season,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: have a big year, and then have a big contract.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, if I'm him, I'm tweeting that too. Lame him.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Final break, We'll come back with he will he won't
• 39:26
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• 41:39
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• 41:54
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• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the can't wait? What a right? Through the eyes of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the senior writer, get that it's called nobody wants to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: see it's called it's called what do you call it snapshot. Yeah,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: we get it all the time. Okay. Uh, we haven't
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: done this in a while, not since the season, So
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: let's do a little he'll he will, he won't. He might,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: and we'll start with you John and he won't. He
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: will talk, which will be the first time. I'm not
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: sure the last time Dave talked. I think it was
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: before last season. So it'll be important. It'll be waited
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: for by fans. Uh anxiously for some questions along the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: lines of, you know, he might get asked about Dante
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Fowler Jr. He might get asked about like Bortles just
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: maybe slam you hear her, Sho's over here cracking her
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: knuckles and anticipation if you ask some questions. Um so, yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: that happened. It is a big event. Uh in terms
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of the news for this team. Uh, he won't say
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: very much, so uh don't you'll get too jacked up
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: about it because they're in a mode right now where
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot to say. If he's asked about Blake,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: I anticipated being hey, Uh, we have a plan, We're
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: of adding anything. Blake's our quarterback until he's not, essentially,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Uh So it will be along those lines. You can
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: probably get a hint of some things with Dave because
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: he he likes to be as transparent as possible when
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: it's reasonable. He might not be very entertaining, and that's
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: just all right, and that's okay. But I mean again,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I don't expect Dave's media availability to outline the Folds
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: plan or the Dwayne Haskins plan. I do want to
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: ask him, what do you think about Kyler Murray? Just
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: conceptually is the guy I think complaining the league. But again,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I anticipate him saying absolutely. You know, he's not going
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: to give away any plans for the next two months,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: so you hope you get some sort of hint about
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: the directions they might be going. I have Dwayne Haskins
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: as my He will, he won't, he might. He will
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: be the most impressive quarterback at the Combine. I've heard
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: about his i Q and his football knowledge. I think
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: once teams get him in the interview room and get
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: him on the board, I think he's going to separate
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: himself from Kyler Murray that storyline of this year's combine.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: He won't listen to the critics that said he doesn't
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: have enough experience, only starting one year at Ohio State.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: But if you got it, you got it, and it
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: seems like he's got it. He might be the Jaguars guy.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier in the show. If you're
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: there at seven and he's there, you might just have
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to take him about it. If it's there. But that's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: that's me and I'm not making the call. So here's
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: my He will, he won't, he might be. Ok I
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: won't be making the call. You can go with that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: one and Brian Um Tom Coughlin will have the biggest
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: decision to make yes a Jaguars coachure executive since he
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that guy, Mark Brunel. I've shared this story, I know,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: with both of you and John. I wrote it in
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: a in a story that that was on the web
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: not not to too long ago. But back in the
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: trailer day on Wednesdays, I would go into his office
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and we would talk about the show that we were
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: going to do, the radio show that we were going
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: to do. And there was a stack of tapes filled
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: with names of quarterbacks and I could list them all
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and nobody would care or even remember them, okay um,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: But there was always one case that was empty, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: one tape that was in the tape player, and I
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: never could figure out what it was because he didn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: want me to see. Then one day he had to
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: go up and get something and the tape actually was
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: desk got up to go look and it said Mark
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Brunell not gonna be honest with you the time, I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't know really that much about Mark Brunell, fifth
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: round pick of the Packers, but that was a huge
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: choice for the Jaguars and it played out very, very well.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So he will have the biggest decision that he's made
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: as a Jaguar since that one. He won't tell us.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: He won't talk this week. He is that's not what
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: he does right now. Um. He might be the perfect
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: person to make this pick. Um, And if you were here, right,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: he might. Um. But he picked Mark Uh, he picked
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Eli Manning. Uh. He was Doug Flutie's coach. So he
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: has seen all types of quarterbacks. If you're looking for comparison,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Doug Flutie, Connor Murray about the same size, right. So
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: he has seen small quarterbacks, he has seen big quarterbacks,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: he has seen pocket passers, he has seen mobile He
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: might be the perfect person to make this choice and
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: he might be the guy who makes the pick. I'm
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Doug and Dave will both have a lot of input,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: but it's likely to be Tom who is the guy.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: This is the most important decision that he will make
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: since returning to Jacksonville, and Shad is giving him the keys.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure they've ever had a spotlight decision
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: quite like this at the quarterback position. Back they chose Mark,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: they were an expansion team. Maybe NEThing about him. Uh
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: now it's the lead story on Good Morning Football. Yeah,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: Byron's year, they had been down, they hadn't been to
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the n f C Championship game two years. There's a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: perception and correctly so that if they get the quarterback choice, right,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: this competitor again their competitor, you know. And uh so
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: that's an unusual situation to be in, even in even
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: in Blake's year, and he was fourteen. If you remember,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you didn't know going to that off season that they
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: were going to pick their quarterback the future. You thought
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: it might be the time, but you also thought it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: might be the next year. So it was a little
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. If they don't go folds, everybody's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: expecting the quarterback at number seven. I don't know that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that's been the case, because that wasn't the case with Gabbert,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: uh they traded up. It was probably the case with
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Byron that you knew they were gonna take a quarterback.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: But if they don't go Folds, it'll be maybe their
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: first time where you knew they had to go quarterback
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: in the top ten. So one other scenario for might
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: would be this might be as difficult a decision as
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: he's had to make because Tom the coach takes the
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: quarterback and then adds the tight end or I'm just
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: assuming right or receiver somewhere at Sevan, Tom the the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: vice president of football operations, needs to think about this
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: year right and winning this year, but he's also responsible
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: for three and five years down the road. He's got
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: to pick the quarterback that takes this this team, this
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: franchise beyond his tenure here because right because you're about
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: seventy two year old man, I mean maybe he defies logic,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: but five years from now you think he'd be retired. Okay,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: you'd think you never know what tc um. He's got
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: to pick that guy that goes well beyond his tenure,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: right that Eli Manning guy who is a Jaguar well
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: beyond the time the Tom cough and is you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: roaming the hallways in the sidelines right. So it might
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: be the most important and it might be the most
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: difficult decision that he will make as a Jaguars executive. Okay,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure. He'll tell you that he
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is up for the challenge and those of us who
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: know him would agree with that. So work hand in
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: hand with the with David. It would be a big
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: week for those guys, all right, that we'll do it
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: for our show. John Ashland, you take care of Max,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: uh for these two, for Max, for Jolton, Joe Fortunato,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: we will say, have a pleasant day. More to come
• 49:36
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• 49:39
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