Latest / Investor Exchange / Keppel Pacific Oak US REIT 1H 2025 Financial Highlights and Market Outlook
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- 0:02Time for another Investor Exchange podcast. Here are your hosts, Matt and Sally.
- 0:07Welcome to The Deep Dive. We're the show that helps you cut through the noise
- 0:11of those dense reports and complex financial statements. Exactly.
- 0:15We try to find what really matters.
- 0:17And today we're doing just that. We're plunging deep into Keppel,
- 0:20Pacific, Oak, U.S. REIT, or COREY.
- 0:24Specifically, their unaudited results for the first half of 2025.
- 0:28So the period ending June 30th. Yeah. And it's an important one to watch.
- 0:32Cori, well, they're not just any REIT. They focus on U.S. offices,
- 0:36specifically in what they call key growth markets. Right. Not just anywhere.
- 0:40Not just anywhere. I think fast-growing sectors, tech, advertising,
- 0:44media, the Tame of My Group, but also medical and healthcare.
- 0:47It's a diversified portfolio.
- 0:49So as of June 30th, what did that portfolio look like? Okay.
- 0:53So they had 13 freehold office buildings and business campuses.
- 0:56The valuation was roughly U.S. $1.3 billion, spread across eight of those key
- 1:01growth markets. Got it. So that's our focus.
- 1:03Our mission, really, is to unpack Corey's financial performance for this first
- 1:07half. Figure out the why behind the numbers.
- 1:09Exactly. And then we need to look at the broader market outlook,
- 1:12you know, see what it all means for Karat's future.
- 1:15And we're pulling this straight from their recent media release and presentation.
- 1:18So getting it directly from the source. Perfect. OK, so let's jump right in.
- 1:22The overall financial snapshot for 1H 2025, what immediately jumps out at you?
- 1:28Well, let's lay out the headline figures first.
- 1:30Gross revenue, it saw a tiny increase, just 0.2% year-on-year,
- 1:35up to U.S. $74.6 million.
- 1:38Okay. Pretty flat then. Pretty flat. But then, net property income,
- 1:41MPI, that decreased by 3.2%, landing at U.S. $40.7 million.
- 1:46Mm. Okay. A drop there. And if you look at adjusted MPI, which kind of gives
- 1:50you a better sense of the cash property income, it was down a bit more, 4.6%, to U.S.
- 1:55$41.4 million. So revenue basically flat, but property income,
- 1:59both reported and adjusted, is slipping.
- 2:01What about distributions? That's usually key for REIT investors.
- 2:03Ah, yes. That's probably the biggest headline here. Income available for distribution,
- 2:07well, it took a noticeable hit.
- 2:09Down 16.2% to U.S. $19.9 million. 16%, okay. And net income for the period fell even more sharply.
- 2:17Down 42.5% to U.S. $11.7 million.
- 2:21Wow, quite a drop. But here's the crucial part, and it ties into their strategy.
- 2:27No distribution was declared for the first half of 2025.
- 2:30Right. And this wasn't exactly a shock, was it? This was flagged before. Correct.
- 2:34It's part of a recapitalization plan they announced way back on February 15th, 2024.
- 2:39So it's playing out as planned, essentially. Okay. So remind us,
- 2:42what's the main purpose behind suspending these distributions?
- 2:45It runs for quite a while, right? It does.
- 2:47They suspended them starting from the second half of 2023.
- 2:50And it's planned to go right through to the second half 2025 distribution.
- 2:54That's the one that would normally be paid out in early 2026.
- 2:57And the goal? The stated goal is pretty clear.
- 2:59Address their capital needs and leverage concerns.
- 3:03Basically, hold on to cash. Makes sense in the current climate. Yeah.
- 3:07I mean, given the challenges in the U.S. real estate market,
- 3:09selling properties at good prices is tough and raising significant equity is,
- 3:13well, unlikely for many REITs right now. So this suspension is a deliberate move.
- 3:17Fortify the balance sheet. But they did leave the door open slightly for resuming earlier.
- 3:23They did. They mentioned distributions could start again sooner if market conditions
- 3:26really improve significantly. But, you know, that's a big if.
- 3:30OK, that sets the stage. It's about long term stability.
- 3:33But let's dig into the why. Why did those MPI numbers drop? What were the main drivers?
- 3:39The sources point to a few things. The main pressure on MPI came from increased
- 3:43repair and maintenance costs.
- 3:45Those jumped 13.2% year on year. That's quite a bit. Definitely.
- 3:50Anything else. Yeah. Also higher amortization of leasing commissions.
- 3:52It's basically spreading out the cost of getting tenants signed up.
- 3:56And, you know, general property management fees and other property expenses
- 3:59also ticked up. So rising operational costs are a big part of the story.
- 4:03Were there any counterweights, anything pushing the other way?
- 4:06There was one significant offset, lower property taxes.
- 4:10They were down 12.5%, which helped cushion the blow a bit. But then,
- 4:14looking at that adjusted NPI figure, the one that focuses more on cash,
- 4:19A key factor there was lower cash rental income. And that was because of what
- 4:23they called higher free rents.
- 4:25The rent-free periods for new tenants.
- 4:27Exactly. It's about the timing differences when new leases start.
- 4:31You often give a few months free rent as an incentive.
- 4:34So while you secure the tenant long term, the immediate cash coming in takes a temporary dip.
- 4:40That's interesting. It suggests maybe a pretty competitive leasing market out
- 4:44there offering those incentives.
- 4:45It certainly points that way. It's a common tactic, you know,
- 4:47to attract or keep tenants in tougher markets.
- 4:51OK, now moving to that bigger 16.2 percent drop in income available for distribution.
- 4:56Yeah. What drove that? Well, part of it was the lower cash NPI we just talked
- 5:00about. But another big piece was significantly higher other trust expenses.
- 5:04They jumped 34.1 percent. That's about U.S.
- 5:07Sort of 0.6 million dollars. And what falls under other trust expenses?
- 5:11Primarily increased professional fees. But also, this interesting item.
- 5:16Accrued withholding tax.
- 5:17Withholding tax. How does that work for a REIT? Yeah, it's quite specific.
- 5:20It seems this accrued tax happened because a chunk of their unit holders didn't
- 5:25submit the necessary valid U.S. tax forms.
- 5:28This is happening during the distribution suspension period.
- 5:31So it's an admin issue impacting the bottom line.
- 5:33Pretty much. KROE actually put out a call urging unit holders to get those forms
- 5:37in, because if they don't, it directly hits the retained income.
- 5:41And it could even mean clawbacks from future distributions when they restart.
- 5:46Wow. So, Uniholder action is directly impacting the trust's finances there.
- 5:49Okay. And then the big one, that 42.5% fall in net income. What happened there?
- 5:54A major factor there was non-cash. It was a fair value loss on derivatives.
- 5:58U.S. $6.5 million loss in the first half of 2025.
- 6:02Derivatives. So, interest rate hedges. Exactly. These are tools Carey uses to
- 6:06manage interest rate risk.
- 6:08But when market rates move, the value of these hedges on paper can swing quite wildly.
- 6:12So it's a big hit to reported income, but doesn't necessarily mean cash flowing
- 6:16out the door right now. Precisely.
- 6:18It reflects the volatility in interest rates, but it's a non-cash accounting item.
- 6:23It compared to a small gain in the same period last year, so it's a big swing factor.
- 6:28Also, tax expense nudged up 5.8%, mainly due to higher deferred taxes related
- 6:34to property depreciation.
- 6:36Okay, so we've covered the downward pressures, higher costs,
- 6:38tenant incentives hitting cash flow, some admin tax issues, and that big non-cash derivative loss.
- 6:45But it can't all be bad news. Were there any bright spots operationally?
- 6:49Any signs of resilience? Oh, absolutely.
- 6:52Yeah, despite those financial headwinds, operationally they showed some definite
- 6:55strength. Leasing Omendam was actually quite healthy. Really?
- 6:57How much space did they lease?
- 6:59They signed deals for 281,230 square feet in the first half.
- 7:03That represents almost 6% of their total portfolio area. And where was this activity happening?
- 7:10Predominantly in those key growth markets they target. Places like Seattle,
- 7:14Bill, V. Redmond, and Denver saw a lot of the action.
- 7:16That's a good sign their strategy is working on the ground. Okay,
- 7:19leasing volume looks decent. What about the actual rents? Are they getting higher rates on new deals?
- 7:24Yes, and that's another positive signal. They achieved positive rental reversion.
- 7:29Meaning rents on new and renewal leases were higher than the expiring ones. Correct.
- 7:33It was 3.3% positive for the second quarter and 0.5% positive for the first half overall.
- 7:39That means future income should benefit. And occupancy, did that hold up?
- 7:43It stayed pretty healthy.
- 7:45Portfolio-committed occupancy was 88.2% as of June 30th.
- 7:49It dipped slightly from 90% at the end of 2024, but, you know,
- 7:5488% is still a solid number in today's office market.
- 7:57Definitely. And the types of leases signed, new tenants, renewals. A good mix, actually.
- 8:02New leases made up about 35% of the square footage signed.
- 8:05Expansions were around 17%, and renewals took the largest share at about 48%.
- 8:10That suggests a healthy balance of attracting new business and retaining existing tenants.
- 8:15And they mentioned tenant diversification, right? That's usually a plus. A big plus.
- 8:19They really highlighted their low tenant concentration risk.
- 8:22Get this. Their top 10 tenants only account for about 29% of their cash rental income. That is low.
- 8:28Yeah, spread across over 390 distinct tenants.
- 8:31So if one major tenant leaves, it doesn't cripple them. Huge diversification
- 8:35benefit there. Plus, they have built-in rent increases.
- 8:38Ah, the annual escalations. Yep. An average annual rental escalation of 2.6%
- 8:43across the portfolio. So that provides a little bit of organic growth baked
- 8:47in regardless of market conditions. That's a nice safety net.
- 8:51Okay, let's shift gears to capital management. How are they handling their debt?
- 8:55What's the leverage situation?
- 8:57So their aggregate leverage was 43.7% at the end of June.
- 9:00That's pretty consistent with recent quarters. And importantly,
- 9:03it's within the regulatory limits.
- 9:05Okay, under the ceiling. What about interest coverage ratio, the ICR?
- 9:09That's always a focus. Their ICR stood at 2.5 times, and the all-in average
- 9:13cost of their debt was 4.45%. 2.5 times ICR.
- 9:18And managing interest rate risk in this environment must be crucial.
- 9:21What are they doing there?
- 9:22They've been quite active. About 76%, 75.7% to be precise, of their loans have
- 9:27been hedged using floating to fix interest rate swaps.
- 9:30That's designed to buffer them against rate hikes. And their debt maturity profile.
- 9:35Anything come and do soon. The weighted average turn to maturity is 2.0 years.
- 9:40Now, one point to note, their current liabilities did exceed their current assets
- 9:46by about U.S. $83.6 million.
- 9:49Okay. How are they addressing that liquidity aspect? Well, this brings us back
- 9:53again to the distribution suspension.
- 9:55The manager explicitly states that suspending distributions is key to maintaining
- 10:00sufficient liquidity for their obligations. Okay.
- 10:02And they believe it improves their refinancing prospects down the line,
- 10:06though, of course, they add the caveat that it's all subject to market conditions.
- 10:10So that suspension really is central to their whole capital strategy right now
- 10:14for liquidity, for leverage, for refinancing.
- 10:17Absolutely. It's the main lever they're pulling on the capital side to navigate this period.
- 10:20And like we mentioned, they're also pushing unit holders on those tax forms
- 10:24to help the cause. It impacts the trust's retained income directly. Right.
- 10:28OK, we've unpacked Karami's specific situation, but how does this all fit into the bigger picture?
- 10:34Let's zoom out to the U.S. economy and the office market overall. What's the vibe there?
- 10:39Well, economically, the U.S. picture is, you know, a bit mixed,
- 10:42but showing stability in some areas.
- 10:45Unemployment and labor force participation rates have held steady,
- 10:48even though Q1 GDP saw a little dip. And inflation.
- 10:52Still the big story. It's moderating. Holding in the 2.4 to 2.8 percent range,
- 10:58continuing that downward trend.
- 11:00The Fed is holding rates steady for now, despite, you know, quite a bit of political
- 11:04noise about cuts. Any word on those tariffs that were announced? Did they rattle things?
- 11:08According to the sources we looked at, the impact seems to have been somewhat dampened.
- 11:12Consumer confidence actually went up and market volatility lessened in Q2.
- 11:17So perhaps less disruptive than initially feared. Interesting.
- 11:20Okay, that's the macro backdrop.
- 11:22What about the U.S. office market specifically?
- 11:24Still doom and gloom, or are there green shoots? Definitely seeing signs of
- 11:28resilience, maybe even some green shoots.
- 11:30Office-using industries are holding up okay, and the big wave of federal lease
- 11:35termination seems to have passed, which helps stabilize occupancy overall.
- 11:39And the return-to-office push, is that actually happening?
- 11:41It looks like it. The data they cited, based on cell phone tracking,
- 11:45shows office traffic is up to nearly 73% of pre-pandemic levels.
- 11:5073%, that's significant. It is.
- 11:53And it's apparently being driven hard by sectors like finance and tech.
- 11:57You know, the big banks, companies like Dell, Amazon, pushing for five days
- 12:01a week back in the office.
- 12:02Okay, so people are coming back. What about leasing activity?
- 12:05Because Corey's numbers suggested some softness, maybe linked to incentives?
- 12:10Yeah, the overall market saw a slowdown in leasing in the first half of 2025.
- 12:15But the general view seems to be that it was maybe a temporary blip.
- 12:19Recovery is kind of expected in the second half of the year.
- 12:22And rents, concessions.
- 12:23Executed rents are apparently trending up, and those concession packages,
- 12:27like the free rent periods, seem to have stabilized after rising for years.
- 12:31That's a positive sign for landlords. Any movement on the sales side,
- 12:35are people actually buying office buildings again? Yes, and this is quite telling.
- 12:40Institutional investors, the big players, are starting to dip their toes back
- 12:44in. They apparently made up over 25% of office acquisitions in Q2.
- 12:48That's the highest share they've had since mid-2022.
- 12:51Wow. Okay, that suggests a real shift in sentiment if the big money is coming back.
- 12:56It could be a turning point or at least a sign that some see value at current pricing.
- 13:01Now, Cary focuses on these key growth markets, the Super Sun Belt 18-hour cities.
- 13:06How are those specific markets performing compared to, say, the national average
- 13:11or the big coastal gateway cities?
- 13:13Right, and this is central to Cary's whole thesis.
- 13:15These markets, like Seattle, Denver, Austin, they're generally expected to outperform.
- 13:20Over the last 12 months, office rental growth in Cary's key markets averaged
- 13:240.3%. Okay, 0.3%. How does that stack up?
- 13:27Well, the U.S. national average was slightly higher at 0.6%.
- 13:30But interestingly, the traditional gateway cities actually saw a decrease of 0.2 percent.
- 13:35So Cary's markets grew, just not quite as fast as the overall average in the
- 13:39last year, but significantly better than the gateways which actually shrank.
- 13:43What about the forecast?
- 13:44Looking ahead 12 months, the projection for Cary's markets is 1.0 percent rank growth.
- 13:49U.S. average forecast is 1.3 percent, and gateway cities are forecast at 0.9 percent.
- 13:55So still positive growth expected in their chosen areas, slightly behind the
- 13:59overall U.S., but ahead of the gateways.
- 14:01It reinforces that defensive positioning, maybe? Seems like it.
- 14:05Their markets are expected to be resilient, even if maybe not the absolute fastest
- 14:09growing in the immediate term.
- 14:11Now, the sources also mentioned some specific things happening in those gateway
- 14:15cities, didn't they? Some political or social factors.
- 14:18They did, and it's worth noting, just reporting what the sources said.
- 14:21In California, for instance, they mentioned job losses linked to deportations
- 14:25and concerns about ongoing protests potentially affecting the economy there.
- 14:29Okay. And New York? In New York City, the recent mayoral primary election won
- 14:34by a socialist Democrat reportedly created some uncertainty among business owners.
- 14:39The sources mentioned concerns about policies, taxes, crime,
- 14:42anti-Semitism, and specifically noted that some firms were considering relocating
- 14:47to markets seen as more business-friendly, like Miami, Dallas, or Nashville.
- 14:52Again, that's just relaying the information provided in the materials. Understood.
- 14:55Purely reporting the source material. But it certainly paints a picture of different
- 15:00dynamics at play in different major cities, maybe reinforcing Corey's focus
- 15:03on its chosen growth markets. So wrapping this all up, what's the manager's
- 15:08stated strategy going forward?
- 15:10It's pretty consistent. They're focused on enhancing operating performance.
- 15:15So leasing, managing costs, and that strategic capital management we discussed,
- 15:20especially the distribution suspension, the goal is sustainable long-term value.
- 15:24And they still believe in their market focus.
- 15:26Very much so. They highlight their presence in those fast-growing states and
- 15:29the focus on resilient sectors like TEMA and medical health care as key strengths.
- 15:33Plus, that tenant diversification provides a strong buffer. Okay.
- 15:37So this deep dive into Corey's first half of 2025.
- 15:41It's been really revealing. We've seen them navigating a, well,
- 15:45a pretty complex financial path. Definitely.
- 15:48Marked by that deliberate distribution suspension to shore up the balance sheet. Right.
- 15:52But alongside that, some healthy operational science, good leasing momentum.
- 15:56Positive rental reversion. They're managing debt carefully, and they're sticking
- 16:01to their strategy of being in specific U.S. growth markets.
- 16:04It really feels like a period of deliberate adjustment, weathering the storm
- 16:09now to be better positioned later.
- 16:11So here's something to think about as we finish. The broader U.S.
- 16:15Office market is showing these tentative signs of recovery, maybe starting in
- 16:19the second half of this year. At the same time, some of those big traditional
- 16:23gateway cities are facing, well, unique headwinds, political, economic.
- 16:29So what does this potential shift mean for REITs like CORE, the ones who deliberately
- 16:33chose not to be in those gateways, but instead bet on these emerging growth markets?
- 16:38Could we see a real shift in the balance of power or maybe opportunity in U.S.
- 16:43Commercial real estate in the next few years? That's the big question,
- 16:46isn't it? How this divergence plays out.
- 16:50Music.