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Sweatiest Game Ever?! K-State Men’s & Women’s Hoops Breakdown + Week 13 Betting Locks! (S3//E35) · Cocaine Willie

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You're here to be on the cocaine, to be on the spot
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there. What's up everybody?
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You're listening to yet another edition of Cocaine Willie, the
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official K State representative on the college huddle.
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I am your commissioner, Bob Trollsby, and as always, I'm
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joined by my Co host, the good chef Andre Napier, and we're
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missing that yet again tonight. But rest assured, he is alive
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and well and over there, we'll just say that.
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But we're excited to have him back eventually whenever he gets
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back from over there. Tonight, we're going to be doing
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just some thoughts on men's basketball, women's basketball,
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and we're going to be providing you with our Week 13 locks and
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an update on the standings there.
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But Chef off to a strong start on the men's hoop side, some
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would say. I'm happy with it.
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I mean, I know we've had some close calls and I know we, we
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kind of, we, we blew out the 1st 2 opponents and we thought, you
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know, maybe this will be a different, but we've been
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sweating the last two games. I will say that none more
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sweatier than the last one versus Tulsa.
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That was the sweatiest sweaty games I've ever sweated through.
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That was that was a wild ending too.
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Definitely You're sweating through that one.
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You got to take a shower before you go to bed.
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That that type of that type of a game where you're sweating that
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All right, so looking at looking at the four games that the men's
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team has played so far, UNC, Greensboro, Bellarmine, Cal and
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Tulsa day-to-day. Ames making his return to
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Bramwich Coliseum and didn't didn't do much in that first
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half second-half absolutely lit it up.
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Like absolutely lit it up. No, he he was everything that we
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thought we were going to get from the Chicago guard and he
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was, he was really fun. I thought he was.
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He definitely looked like he grew a little bit since we had
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him on. He's definitely developed into
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his full adult, you know, basketball frame and he was a
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bucket. He was a walking bucket.
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He had the confidence and he could he was shooting the ball,
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which was very interesting to see.
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I think he is a very, very, very good piece.
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He's bounced around or was he at Virginia this the previous
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season before that? So he's definitely, you know,
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finally, you know, maybe he's he's reached his potential as a
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college basketball player and he showed it.
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He was on full display in that second-half.
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It's very funny like these personal games that when they
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these former Tang players that finally make their return trip
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was a Cam Carter the season before that for LSU and he they
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going. To get another one this week
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with Uganda on Yenzo. Really.
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Is it Ugo? No, no, no, no, no.
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It's a chore chore. I think a chore chore is a
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Mississippi. State, no freaking way.
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A chore. Chore.
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Still playing college basketball.
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Oh my God, that would be that's going to be a funny return.
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That's in Kansas City, right? That is in Kansas City, yeah.
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Yeah, but it it has been, it has been a fun start to the
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basketball season. That Cal game was very similar
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to the Cal game the last time or I think we had a monster lead
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versus Cal and it just slowly withered away and it's like,
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where's the stops at? Where's the stops?
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Where's the stop? Are we going to get a stop with
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let's get a stop And it just never happened.
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And they luckily we do have a responsive offensive team.
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And, and the thing about it is, I mean, even if you can't get
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any of the other guys open, PJ Haggerty is kind of that, you
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know, bail out guy. It's very similar to what Kiante
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would do. Where like, OK, yeah, nobody's
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really getting anything done. Dump at the Kiante on the block
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and he'll he'll get a, you know, a mid range or he'll get to the
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basket somehow. This is just PJ Haggerty top of
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the top of the key. Give him a screen and he's going
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to get fouled or he's going to get a bucket.
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It's it's, it's a true blessing to have him on the team because
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he covers up a lot of inefficiencies on the team.
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And you saw that actually in this pre this last game versus
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Tulsa where you know, he gets his 3rd or 4th foul, maybe third
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foul with four minutes left in the game.
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And you know, we have to take him out.
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We're just giving him a little respite until that 4 minute
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media timeout and we squander. AI think it was a 8 point lead
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at that point. It was unfortunate because he's
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some. It's a 7 or 8 point lead.
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Yeah, I think maybe. He was 72 to 65.
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I think it was a 7 point lead. Right.
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And then, you know, he comes out of the game and we just have no
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offense for nothing to set up the offense, nobody to handle
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the ball to get it. No, even David Castillo is
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having a great start to the season.
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He has improved dramatically. Obviously, the competition
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isn't, you know, out of this world or anything like that, but
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he is, he's shown leaps and bounds from what he was last
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season. But PJ Haggerty is the engine of
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this offense and you need him out there.
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And I think we need to find a way to assist him with obviously
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on offense, but even on defense, making sure that he is not
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absolutely being targeted to get fouls because he is very sloppy
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on defense. He's a risk taker.
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And I don't I can appreciate that, but I can't have that now
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if it's one one of our three and D guys, if it's Abby Bashir,
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you're not very good at defense to begin with.
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Take some whatever you you don't guard anybody anyway.
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So take some chances. And if you get a foul, you get a
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foul. But PJ Haggard, we need you,
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brother. You, you can't be reaching in
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on, you know, on a play with 15 seconds on the shot clock, you
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know, and a little drive to the basket where, you know, just
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putting his hands up. He didn't want to actually shoot
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that ball anyway and you foul. So those are the things that I'm
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seeing from the season that I think can stretch out throughout
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the season. But I think All in all, I think
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I'm happy we're four. No, this is a good change of
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pace from what we've seen the last two seasons.
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It's it's been good. It's been good and and PJ, he's
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really just got to watch those kick outs too.
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I think that's the only other thing I'll say about his game is
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he's got to watch the kick outs because he he got what two of
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them called against him against. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I think that ref was really looking for it.
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It was a sermons that was Doug Sermons.
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Yeah, it's it's subtle, but he does do it.
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I think a lot of players do it, but it's just his.
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I think one of those like we talked to a college basketball
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referee on the pod and I think if you talk to these guys, be
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like, hey, I'm not kicking out. It's just how my legs flow.
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I'm not intentionally RIP Hamilton my leg 4 feet in the
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air to have you run into it. It's it's more just how my
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landing is. I think a lot of referees will
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swallow that or even give you the foul.
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But you know, Doug was on one that night and he was like, you
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got the first one. I called it, don't do it again.
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And I'm definitely calling it the second time.
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So, yeah, PJ is he's he's everything that we paid for.
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And I appreciate that. It's no offense to Coleman
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Hawkins, but you know, we paid a pretty penny for him and he
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wasn't nearly the impact that PJ's had already through four
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games. And that's that's what you get
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when you get an All American. It's what only the second ever
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All American to transfer during during the modern portal era.
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Coleman Hawkins was honorable mention big 10.
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That's that's great and all, but he's not an all American.
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He wasn't even all big 10 first team.
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So being able to get the pedigree of a guy like PJ
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Haggerty, you can see a stark difference between his impact
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that he's having so far this season and versus the impact
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that you saw from a guy like Coleman Hawkins.
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And I think it translates to his leadership too.
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You can tell that he is a vocal leader in that locker room on
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that bench and and he's not, you know, again, I, I don't want
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this to be a Barry Coleman Hawkins spot.
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I could do that all day every day.
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But Coleman wasn't that he, he was not a vocal leader.
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If anything, he, he felt like a bit more of a complainer type of
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type of person just based on the shark week comments and things
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like that. You don't have guys on this team
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going out on podcast complaining about their conditioning work.
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They're not complaining about the, the preseason programming.
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So it it, it does feel like everything that Tang said and
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that he was trying to build for this season of a team with
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better chemistry, a better culture, a better locker room,
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more cohesion, you're seeing a lot more of that.
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That's not to say there aren't still flaws on this team.
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There's still some inconsistencies with certain
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players. But just want to go through some
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of the some of the facts and figures here.
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We got five guys on the team right now averaging 10 or more
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per game, points per game. PJ, Nate Johnson, David Castillo
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has been you. You mentioned him.
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He's been a good pleasant surprise this season.
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I feel like he's finally living up to some of that blue chip
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pedigree that we were hoping we would be able to get out of him
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when we initially recruited him out of out of Oklahoma.
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The Crime Dog, Kamari McGriff, he's he's 1010 plus points per
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game. And then Abdi Bashir is, is also
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in that group. You've got PJ Nate and Abdi are
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the are the three guys that are averaging 25 or more minutes per
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game. So you're starting to see who
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maybe that big three rotation might be of of the top three
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guys from a minutes pregame perspective.
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Nate Johnson currently leading the team in multiple other
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categories. I feel like he's maybe been the
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most well-rounded player on the team so far. 7 rebounds per
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game, 28 total rebounds, a second in total assists.
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He's seven in steals and 3rd and three pointers made you.
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We've really seen a lot of flashes and him just being a
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really good all around player on a team that's lacking some
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defense. It's good to have a guy who's at
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least still getting some of those steals and and making his
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presence known defensively went when he's on the court.
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P JS currently leading in assists with 5.8 assists per
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game. Assist to turnover ratio 5.8 to
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4.5 right now for PJA, little closer to 1:00 to 1:00 than you
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would like, but hopefully that's just early season jitters.
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He's starting to figure it out. The turnovers have been a
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problem. I would say though 15.3
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turnovers per game is what this team is averaging through four
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games against lower level to mid level competition which which I
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I would like to see that cleaned up.
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Then last last couple things I'll get to Doreen Buca didn't
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love him in the first game. Last couple of games he's looked
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better but averaging 1.8 blocks per game.
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Leading the team in blocks per game right now in general, the
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team shooting 54 percent, 73% from the line, 45% from 3.
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David Castillo leading the way with 61% from three and the team
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is averaging 93 1/2 points per game.
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Never thought, never thought I'd see the day.
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Never thought I'd see the day. No, I, I mean, this offense is
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way more explosive than I thought.
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I mean, I, I wrote down when we when we had that first game,
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when we were doing the live, the live that I had PJ at 19, NATA
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12, Abdi at 10. I had Andre at 11.
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You know, that's a little well under where I thought and I
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thought repeat would be at 9 or whatever his name is.
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I didn't expect Dave to be. I had him listed at 3 and he is
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a he has grown. He has grown into, you know what
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I expected him to be at this at this point in his career.
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He is actually maybe a little exceeding it from where I saw
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him the first time. Now I'm seeing him the second
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time. He's definitely growing.
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The thing about PJ is that that that the turnover or the
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assisted turnover ratio, it does look a little spooky from your
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lead guard to have a one to one. I will say he is a more, he's
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not going to be Marquis. So we need to get that out of
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our heads in terms of where we expect him to be the at the
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point guard position. He is definitely a wanna score
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first kind of guy and I can appreciate that.
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We need to get him off the ball sometimes and run some offense
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for him. But his best, but like I will
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say his best offense is get it at the top of the key.
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I take it, I'll take the ball up, we'll take the ball up, set
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me a screen. They started doing Scruff
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Mcgruff putting this booty out there at the top of the
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three-point line and let PJ pick a side and get to the rim.
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And I that offense will work. But I think versus better
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competition, they're not going to let you just walk that ball
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to the three-point line and do whatever you want.
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So that offense is going to have to, you know, evolve in that
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assisted turnover ratio. It's going to have to get a
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little bit more cleaned up because he's going to start
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going to have to start trusting his teammates to start scoring
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the ball more. And I think Nate can carry more
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of a load offensively. He's way more of a better
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athlete than I I thought that man can jump and get after the
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rim. I need him to start, you know,
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putting it on the rim instead of letting a three-point shooter
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swat it off the backboard. Don't need that anymore.
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God, I love this team, though. Defensively.
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It's just, it's going to take some time.
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Like you said, Buca, these Europeans are going to have to
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adjust to D1 power for college basketball, where you can't be
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lackadaisical and expect that you're just going to be able to.
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They were teaching Buca on the court.
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Like, listen, just put your hands up your 7 two.
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You don't have to swat down the ball.
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Try to swat it out of his hands. These guys are not going to make
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that shot contested with your hands straight up your 72.
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Just be there to contest and then be able to grab a rebound.
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I, I am happy with this team and I think Tang is working through
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who he wants out there. Elias, where does he fit in with
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his team? Because he's obviously Marcus
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Johnson, not going to touch the court.
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But Elias, for Pete, you've got to be able to be the mature one.
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He's like the oldest player on the team, for God's sakes.
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You got to be able to mature and be able to be out there and
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assist on defense because you are basically the second biggest
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player we have or third biggest player we have.
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And if Buca is, you know, doing whatever he does, I can't trust
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him as far as I can throw him. But I I can't trust Scruff
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Mcgruff where I need Eliza Repique or to whatever however
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you say it. Repiac.
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Repiac to do something I need him to.
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I need him to step up a little bit and I think this, yeah, take
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it another step once he gets going.
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I'm with you. Yeah.
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I'm, I'm with you on that. I, I think what my, my next
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question, my next point here is when you look at the team
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through four games, there's obviously a lot of areas that
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can be cleaned up, but they've still been able to win games,
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which I think says a lot about their resilience and, and
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ability to close things out. And, and I, you know, shout out
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to the KSO guys, Mason both made a great point that in the, in
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their instant reaction to the game, this team last year loses
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this game. If they're in the same situation
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against Tulsa, they're not going to have the resilience on last
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year's team to close that game out and find a way to win.
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And dude, you said it was a sweaty game.
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I mean, the, the final, the final 40 seconds of that game
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was the sweatiest I've been, even after a 30 mile bike ride.
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It's like a, dude, this is ridiculous.
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This is ridiculous. We're going to lose this game
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against Tulsa and CJ Jones fumbles it out of bound.
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It's just like, dude, what are what are we doing here?
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Why CJ? He also, he also dropped a dime
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to PJ Haggerty. Let's not, let's not papoo my
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boys. CJ.
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I think CJ has been playing. I think CJ has been playing
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somewhat good basketball and he's trusted, which is the crazy
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part. He is kind of the trusted one on
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the team when it comes down to the the last few possessions.
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He's going to be out there and I like it.
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I'm here for that CJ Jones crunch time player.
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I can't trust him as far as I can throw him.
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You said that about Buca. I'm saying that about CJI.
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Would I would trust Buca more than I trust CJ right now.
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That's just me, but I, I guess with the expectations for this
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team, we, we have a pretty good idea of who's at the top, who,
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who maybe our top three to top five players are so far through
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these four games. But but in general, just bigger
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picture, how have your expectations or, or what you
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feel like the ceiling for this team is?
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How has that changed for you through four games compared to
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what maybe you thought of the season?
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I'll tell you what I didn't like I said at the beginning of the
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season and and when we were doing the offseason stuff, I
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didn't have any expectations for this team.
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I was going to go in there. I'm going to.
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I'm still I don't even think I have any expectations for this
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team still. I think I have expectations for
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individual players, whether we can get wins or not.
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I think if things come together, I and the resolve of this team
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and we stay unified, things will take care of themselves because
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we still have some lower, lower tier opponents that we have to
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play. And we also have some monsters
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on. Well, I wouldn't say monsters,
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but we have some. We have some dogs on this.
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The schedule that if we can overcome those, then I will
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start having expectations of where I think we can go into Big
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12 play and all that because the Big 12 is not light at all this
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season. I think we've got some killers
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in this conference, but for in terms of this team, I think they
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are over performing. If I had set expectations but I
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didn't. So I I'm happy with what we have
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shown so far. I think the defense can get
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better and needs to get better if we want to win anything.
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And the offense is awesome. It's fun.
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It's it's not rolled the ball out there.
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I think Driscoll has made a hell of a difference for this team.
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It is not a plodding along offense.
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It is a fun running gun. Shoot the ball.
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There's a lot more motion, there's a lot more moving
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especially and then he can keep it simple.
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We keep it simple when you have a guy like PJ Haggerty, set a
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highball screen and let him get to work because he is a very
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smart ball player. He knows how to get to the rim
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and get fouled. And if the refs are, you know,
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feeling Froggy, he's going to he's going to take advantage of
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those referees and let that whistle be blown.
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I think going forward, I think we need, I think we're going to
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have to play some A level ball in Kansas City.
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And if we do that, then I will be on the record with what I
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expect from this team. All right, all right, I'm I'm
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going to go ahead and give what my prediction is just that after
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four games of the non conference and then the Big 12 conference
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record because it just did a quick reassessment.
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Maybe we'll do this throughout the season.
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I'm thinking we finished non conference 10 and three, and I'm
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thinking we finished conference play 9 and 9 for a 19 and 12
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overall record. You're solidly on the bubble,
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but I think you're on the correct side of the bubble.
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I think we lose at Creighton, I think we lose at Indiana, but I
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think we can win one game in Kansas City.
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I think we could beat a Mississippi State potentially
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you could win two games in Kansas City.
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I, I don't really know, but I, I currently have it slated to lose
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1 of the games in Kansas City. So I've got us losing that
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losing at Creighton and losing at Indiana for 10 and three
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record overall. I think they can take care of
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business against Seton Hall. I think they can take care of
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business against the rest of the non cons slate and then the Big
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12. I mean, dude, the big 12's a
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gauntlet. We, I don't know if you've
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watched as much as I've watched some of these other non
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conference games. Dude, these teams are good.
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These teams are good. BYU is a wagon.
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Arizona's a wagon KU who knows they got kind of curb stop by by
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North Carolina in that one but haven't seen the score of the
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Duke game tonight as we're recording this but.
24:22
They were, they were losing. It's been back and forth, but I
24:24
think they did just finally lose.
24:28
Yeah, they lost by 12, but it was closer than that.
24:32
They and, and who knows what's going to go, what's happening
24:35
with what's his name? Peterson, Yeah.
24:39
That's weird. That's weird.
24:40
Glad dodged. A bullet with.
24:41
That one, I'm glad that we were one second or third.
24:43
On his list. I think we did and.
24:45
Duke. Duke is, they've got some studs
24:49
on their team, too. The Duke is the big, the Big 12
24:53
in general. I think we're going to have
24:55
tomorrow. We've got a monster.
24:57
We've got Yukon versus Arizona, which is absolutely nuts.
25:02
Can't, TCU is taking some losses.
25:04
I wasn't expecting them to be very good, but yeah, I I think
25:10
the I think this season is going to be crazy in terms of where
25:15
the Big 12's expectations week in and week out are going to be
25:19
from a national perspective. It is going to be fun, though,
25:23
where Kansas State slides into that because if we're that will
25:28
and deal and high scoring kind of team, that could put a lot of
25:32
teams on red alert. Because if, you know, if the
25:35
defense is out of the window and we're scoring and they're
25:39
scoring, games could get decided by who's the hottest.
25:44
And who knows what that that could lead.
25:47
That could lead to some upset wins that could lead to some bad
25:50
losses. Who knows?
25:51
But yeah, I I like what you're like where your head's at.
25:55
I don't know anything about Creighton.
25:57
Obviously you're the Creighton expert of this this bunch.
26:00
Whenever match here, it's going to be a down year.
26:03
Compared to the last, probably 3.
26:04
Or four years, but they're. Still top 50 in Kenpom.
26:07
So the four, the four non conference games against
26:11
Mississippi State, potentially Nebraska if you play Nebraska IN
26:17
and Creighton, those four teams are all in the top 50 in Kenpom.
26:20
So those are going to be your toughest tests when it comes to
26:23
the non conference slate. So I think if you can get, you
26:26
know, two of those five that's still pretty solid.
26:30
I would say like I would be happy with two of five of those.
26:33
I would like. I would like.
26:34
That as well. I mean, especially because a lot
26:37
2 of them are on the road. Two of them are on the road.
26:40
Yeah, two of them are on the neutral.
26:42
Yeah, neutral. I mean four of them.
26:43
I mean, I guess technically four of them are on neutral or Rd.
26:48
Rd. set. So that's going to be very that
26:53
could help and it and it can't really hurt you that much either
26:57
because I like the way we scheduled that.
26:58
I like going on the road. Last time Kansas, Kansas State
27:03
was in Indiana was that Butler game and I was there.
27:07
Didn't really like that game at all.
27:09
But you know that that did help that team throughout the season.
27:14
I mean, we didn't perform very well throughout the season.
27:17
But you know, just those Rd. tests, I think we went on a nice
27:20
little stretch after that game. I think this team can grow and I
27:25
like, like you said, it's not the pity party.
27:28
Look at me, I made $2,000,000. I want to be the superstar and
27:33
all this stuff around the team that was last year.
27:36
A lot of this team seems that they're they're good with each
27:39
other. They're every time somebody's on
27:42
the deck, somebody's picking somebody up, they're huddling
27:45
after every play. I like this team.
27:48
I like this team in terms of a team, but the keyword is team
27:52
and I like where we're at. So be prepared for me to make
27:57
expectations and start to predict some things.
27:59
So I if we do what we got to do, I'll be ready to do it.
28:03
I'll be ready for my stamp on it.
28:06
I'm here for it. Just looking at some of the some
28:10
of the personnel, I guess let's just say most surprising player,
28:14
least surprising player and who do you want to see more from?
28:18
Most surprising is David Castillo.
28:21
I am. I am through the roof, through
28:23
the to the moon if you will, with David Castillo.
28:28
I think he has been the bright spot.
28:31
I think he's shown a lot of energy.
28:34
He's probably the most hype in terms of cause P JS, you know, a
28:40
very chill guy. Even when he gets fouled, he's
28:42
not screaming, He's not yelling or anything like that.
28:45
David Castillo is the biggest surprise.
28:49
What was the other ones you said most surprising?
28:53
Least surprising. And who do you want to see more
28:56
development from? OK, least surprising.
28:58
Is PJ Haggerty. I knew exactly what we were
29:01
getting and we're getting it. So that's not a shot at PJ.
29:04
That is the, the biggest compliment because I, I, I
29:08
thought this is the guy. He is a dude and he is proving
29:11
that to be very much the case. He is proved me right and I
29:17
didn't. I didn't.
29:18
He's not come up short at all. Who I want to see the most
29:24
improvement from it. It's one of the Europeans.
29:27
It it's either Kostich or it's Elias.
29:31
Elias, whatever his name is, God Dang it.
29:34
ER, my boy ER, but I think it needs to be Andre because
29:42
another guy that can back up where Nate plays or Abdi plays
29:48
that can still stretch the floor.
29:50
It has to come on the defensive end for him.
29:52
I think Tang, like we we brought up in the other episode, we're
29:57
talking about football, Chris Kleiman getting on somebody we
30:01
didn't know. He is very hard on Andre.
30:04
Jerome Tang is very hard on Andre Kostich and I think he's
30:07
just trying to get through to the young pup that this is a
30:10
different level of basketball. You have to be in the right
30:14
spot. You have to be doing the right
30:16
things. Kostich can propel this team to
30:21
different heights if he is a more dependable player because
30:26
if you stardom, he's alongside Nate, he's alongside PJ, he's
30:32
alongside McGriff, who is absolutely, I mean, maybe he's
30:38
the most surprising because I I thought at the beginning, even
30:41
in that first game, we. Weren't loving what he was
30:44
doing. I was like, what?
30:44
Is going on. I thought he was a different
30:46
kind of player, but he's actually way more skilled with
30:51
the ball in terms of his post moves.
30:55
I thought he was kind of like just like jump ball, kind of
30:58
dunk the ball kind of guy. He is very fluid with the ball
31:01
on the block. But back to my point, Kostich
31:05
needs to be that guy that can go out there and be with either one
31:09
of the units where it's either the backups or, you know, the
31:14
guys off the bench or in that starting rotation where we're
31:17
trying to pour it on people early.
31:19
So I think he can project and, and we, we had expectations for
31:23
him and he needs to, we knew it was going to take a little bit
31:26
of growing to get there. I think he's a little further
31:29
out than I expected, but if he improves, this team is going to
31:34
be tough. It's going to be fun, yeah.
31:37
So Outlook. For the next three games, Cats
31:40
play Mississippi State, the Bulldogs.
31:42
The Achor Chore revenge game is happening on Thursday.
31:46
That's going to be at 8:30 PM central time on Peacock in
31:50
Kansas City at the T-Mobile Center.
31:52
They are going to play the depending on if they're winner
31:56
or loser. The winner of that game will
31:58
play the winner of Nebraska versus New Mexico.
32:01
So you could potentially get a revenge game against Hoiberg and
32:04
Nebraska Ball who still have never won an NCAA tournament
32:08
game in their hundred plus year history of having a men's
32:11
basketball team. Don't want that to go unnoticed
32:14
or or unmentioned. You will either play them or
32:18
Richard Pitino and the New Mexico Lobos who are coming off
32:22
of a loss to New Mexico State in state rival.
32:25
So you'll play the winner or loser depending on if you were
32:28
the winner or loser. And that consolation or
32:31
championship game will be on Friday at either 6:00 or 8:30
32:35
central time. The next game is also going to
32:38
be Monday, which will happen or no Tuesday next Tuesday against
32:42
Indiana. That's going to be in
32:43
Bloomington. It's going to be at Assembly
32:45
Hall. I don't know if we're going to
32:48
maybe do a watch along for that game.
32:49
I don't know if Matt will be back.
32:51
We'll figure something out for it.
32:52
We might be recording, we might do a preview.
32:54
I don't really know what we're going to do for that, but we'll
32:56
figure something out. But that game's going to be at
32:59
7:00 central time next Tuesday. So exciting stuff for K State
33:04
men's basketball on the women's side, been a lot more of a mixed
33:07
bag. We can get into this in as much
33:10
detail or as little detail as you want to.
33:12
Chef. I know it's later for you, but
33:14
they're three and oh, they're four and two overall was pending
33:18
the results of the game tonight against Troy.
33:20
They've got losses to the Goobs, the Texas A&M Aggies 77 to 72
33:26
this past weekend, and a loss to South Dakota, the Yoats 72 to
33:33
71. Just a yucky, yucky, yucky
33:36
outcome there. They do have wins against SMU 46
33:40
to 44 with Gina Garcia getting that last second walk off layup
33:46
to to win the win the game against the Ponies down in
33:49
Dallas, 100 to 35 route of the Omaha Mavericks.
33:54
University of no opportunity as as my father likes to call it,
33:57
and Lamar, which is just a school.
34:00
And I still I don't know if the Texas, I don't know where
34:02
they're at 89 to 61. So they've either dominated
34:07
their opponents or they've won or lost close games so far.
34:10
There's not really been any in between.
34:12
Got 7 women who are averaging 20 plus minutes a game.
34:15
Got 2 scores, averaging 10 or more per game.
34:18
Tearing sides and Nasia Clawson's.
34:21
Nasia's averaging 8 1/2 rebounds per game.
34:24
Gina Garcia may be the bigger surprise of of this group, for
34:28
me at least. Averaging 4 and 4.4 assists per
34:32
game. 8.8 points per game, 2.2 rebounds per game.
34:35
A lot, A lot better all around than some of the other stats are
34:38
for for pretty much everybody else.
34:41
She also leads the team in turnovers, but generally pretty
34:43
low compared to the men's team and what we usually see on the
34:47
men's side. She's got 2.6 per game there, so
34:50
kind of a 2 to one assist to turnover ratio almost.
34:54
Brandy Harris leading in blocks with five total Terran sides,
34:58
leading in steals with 91.8 per game, 45% shooting, 29% from
35:03
373% from the charity stripe. And then Zella Arenas, currently
35:08
second in total points on the season, but third in point
35:12
average. Also just that side note for
35:15
everybody, I compiled all these stats before the Troy game and
35:18
they have not updated the stats yet as we're recording this for
35:21
the season stuff. So take that with a grain of
35:23
salt. But her scoring's been more
35:25
inconsistent. It's been kind of lumpier. 18 in
35:28
the first game, five in the next, 118 in the third game,
35:31
068. So just kind of.
35:35
Inconsistent is the. Best the best way to say that
35:38
she was shut out in the South Dakota game, which I don't think
35:41
anybody was really expecting for for her there.
35:44
So similar question to the last one with the men expectations
35:48
through these first five games. How have your expectations or I
35:52
guess six games they've played six games now.
35:53
How have your expectations or the ceiling for what you had for
35:57
this team changed from prior to the season to now?
36:01
I didn't have any. Expectations.
36:03
I haven't done any research on the women's basketball team at
36:07
all. This is nowhere near my level of
36:11
expertise. I don't think I've watched a
36:12
single game. I know I've watched the
36:14
highlights of of that devastating loss to South
36:19
Dakota. And then yeah, man, I mean, just
36:26
I just saw the box score for or win versus Troy.
36:31
You know, it's just just balanced.
36:34
I mean, we were going what, 9 deep, 9 deep and everybody
36:39
scored. So yeah, it's just I haven't I
36:43
didn't have any expectations going in this season after
36:45
losing a lot of pieces. Karen signs a dog.
36:48
So I mean, maybe she can carry us, but but I don't think this
36:53
team maybe maybe I'll be proven wrong, but it doesn't just
36:56
doesn't seem like upfront by name recognition and by, you
37:00
know, stature and by, you know, overall talent that this team is
37:05
better than last year's. I don't know, though, maybe
37:08
maybe they are, but they just going to take some time.
37:10
But I don't have any expectations for this team.
37:14
Or do are they are they top of the 12?
37:17
Could they be top of the 12? Or is this?
37:21
I don't think they're top of the. 12 I, I, I will say just
37:24
looking at looking at the Troy game, you've got a lot more
37:28
women who were, you know, 20 plus points in 20 plus minutes
37:32
in that game. The entire starting 5 was over
37:35
21 minutes. Jordan Spicer got a lot more
37:39
production in that match up. If you had a double double with
37:43
13 points and 10 rebounds, which is good to see that I think from
37:46
her and, and showing off her pedigree there, which is good.
37:51
Terran sides with 9, Brandy Herod with with 12 and Tess Heal
37:54
with 11 out of that starting 5 and Nastya Clawson's nine off
37:59
the bench and Mia Foy 9 off the bench and his elliness with
38:02
eight off the bench as well. So I think it's a little bit
38:06
more spread out. I just think, you know,
38:10
tempering my expectations for the women's side.
38:13
I think everybody pretty much did with some of the pieces that
38:16
you lost. But I, I think it's exciting to
38:19
see the future of this team and see who they who they have the
38:22
opportunity to build around, being able to build around Gina
38:25
Garcia and Jordan Spicer, Terrence Sides, obviously being
38:28
a good returner piece there. I think you have those elements
38:32
there. It's just a different game.
38:33
It's it's going to be a different game than what we're
38:35
used to on the women's side because we could, we could just
38:38
play the feed Yoki game for quite a bit against against a
38:42
lot of competition over the last six years when she was on the
38:45
team and, and having sharp shooters like Serena and, and
38:48
folks that, you know, like she could just control a game and
38:51
take over a game in a lot of respects.
38:53
Just going to be interesting to see that evolved.
38:55
Maybe that could be Jordan Spicer.
38:57
Maybe she could take over a game and and maybe we're starting to
39:00
see some of that development happening with her, but just
39:04
going to be going to be a little bit more of a mixed bag.
39:06
We don't get into a lot more detail with it, but if you have
39:10
any other thoughts, feel free to feel free to chime in.
39:14
That's Gilbert. Arenas daughter, Yeah.
39:17
And she was like God you're. Agent Zero, I didn't know that
39:20
we had I I just put those two and two together.
39:23
That's bad, you know bad case stating on my part, but I'm
39:27
going to I'm going to check it out now I mean shout out to
39:30
agent zero. I mean I got to look that up.
39:33
I want to see if he's had any comments on this, but transfer
39:38
from Louisville. I'll be interested to see this
39:41
now now, now I'm. Tapped in.
39:43
Now I'm tapped in, boys. I'm tapped in.
39:46
Their next three games are against Green Bay, Columbia and
39:50
the number 14 N Carolina Tar Heels.
39:52
So couple of pods and then a tough test against North
39:56
Carolina. So I think the positive is you,
39:58
you at least get that Tar Heels game at home Last year or the
40:02
year before that, I forget exactly when that was last year,
40:05
the year before you had to make that road.
40:06
I think it was last year was. When was when was?
40:10
It was the same year that we were playing like Caitlin Clark
40:12
every other week. That was two years ago.
40:15
Then OK, that was two years ago. Then Yep.
40:17
Yep. And I think we had Duke.
40:18
We had Duke last year, if I remember right.
40:20
So yeah, All right, without further ado, we're going to get
40:24
to locks. Just get a recap.
40:26
Last week, bad boy is the guy that happens to be overseas, so
40:32
bad boys dodging bad boy duty. This week Matt went two and
40:36
three. That brings his overall record
40:39
to 33 and 22. So still an opportunity to close
40:42
the gap there a little bit. He might go and five this week,
40:45
we'll see, who knows. I was sexy.
40:49
You and I were both 2nd place or first place, whatever.
40:52
However we want to do that. Three and two for both of us
40:56
last week. I won't go through the
40:58
individual games where we're getting a little late here, but
41:01
33 and 22 overall for Matt, 27 and 28 for me overall in second
41:05
place and chef 23 and 32. It's rocking the rocking the
41:10
palindrome, rocking the mirrored, mirrored record.
41:13
They're getting into Week 13, so I'll through Matt's picks first
41:18
because he's the bag boy and he's not here and we don't, we
41:22
don't need to give him any airtime if he's not going to be
41:24
here. For his Big 12 picks, he has
41:26
Arizona -6 1/2 versus Baylor. He has TCU plus 1 1/2 at
41:31
Houston, and he has Iowa State -1 1/2 versus KU.
41:34
His national game is also what I have for my national game.
41:38
I also have Georgia Tech -2 1/2 versus pit stinky, stinky pit
41:44
sicko game. He has Fresno State -2 1/2
41:47
versus Utah State for my picks. I have Utah -17 1/2 points
41:53
versus K State. If you listen to our preview pot
41:55
of that game, I am not optimistic that K State's going
41:58
to keep it remotely competitive. So I think Utah's going to
42:02
easily cover the 17 1/2 in that one.
42:05
I've got Arizona also -6 1/2 versus Baylor.
42:10
Yeah, I don't, I think Baylor's packing it in.
42:12
I think Aranda's last stand has already happened.
42:15
So I, I don't think we're going to see a whole lot more from
42:17
those Baylor Bears. Arizona State is my next pick -7
42:22
1/2 at Colorado Boulder. Not an intimidating atmosphere
42:25
this year. Not a very good team.
42:27
Juju at quarterback is getting better through the weeks.
42:31
But that's, that's just not a very game this year.
42:33
So I expect them to pack it in. They're not going to be able to
42:36
make a bowl this year. So give me give me the Sun
42:39
Devils in that one national game.
42:41
I also have Georgia Tech -2 1/2 versus Pitt.
42:44
Just don't feel like Pitt is really any good at all.
42:47
They lost to West Virginia, they lost to Notre Dame, who I also
42:50
don't think is very good this year.
42:52
I don't think they should be in the CFP picture.
42:54
But that's a different conversation for a different
42:56
day. So yeah, give me the give me the
42:59
the Yellow jackets -2 1/2. And then my second, we have the
43:04
Sam Houston State Bearcats, my brother in
43:23
If you're going to watch this game, you, you don't like nice
43:28
things. You, you just don't, you don't
43:31
like very good things. So I'm going to take the
43:33
Bearcats plus 6 1/2 Point Rd. Dogs at Middle Tennessee.
43:39
I love all. I love those picks.
43:41
I love those picks. I'm going to start my Big 12
43:45
play. I'm going to go the line is
43:49
opposite of what Matt had. Well, not opposite.
43:52
I'm going to take the opposite side.
43:53
I think this line is just spooky.
43:55
Like it just doesn't make any sense.
43:57
TCU is not very good. That just got throttled by BYU.
44:01
They're only 1 1/2 point dogs on the road at Houston who's very
44:07
competitive, who can control the ball.
44:09
I, I don't see a way where Houston doesn't cover 1 1/2.
44:14
I think they're outright winners obviously, and I don't think
44:16
it's going to be a one point game.
44:18
So give me Houston -1 1/2. I'm going to go very stinky Big
44:24
12. I'm going to go UCF -14 1/2.
44:28
I think they unloaded the clip at K State.
44:32
I think they did everything in their power to try to get that
44:35
dub versus a wounded animal in Kansas State who was whimpering
44:39
on the ground and they couldn't muster up a touchdown.
44:43
There's no way that they're going to go on the road after,
44:46
you know, being so close yet so far away from victory.
44:50
I think UCF covers the 14 1/2 very bad teams in Orlando, but
44:57
they get it done. And then my next pick, it was a
45:01
battle between the Kansas schools, which one I wanted to
45:04
take. I don't trust that line has
45:07
been, I think that lines move because I feel like it was 19
45:11
1/2 for Kansas State, but it might not have moved at all.
45:15
But I'm going to go, I'm going to go the, I'm going to go the
45:20
cyclones -4 four and a half versus KU.
45:27
It's very fitting that Kansas needs, you know, wins where they
45:32
can get them. They have the last two of their
45:36
final two games versus Iowa State, who's thirsty to just,
45:40
you know, keep winning. They're they're never going to
45:43
give up under Matt Campbell and I think they will give up on
45:46
their Lance live pole. And then they know that if they
45:49
don't get this dub that they got Utah on the schedule who
45:54
probably just throttled K State and they have to go the home
45:59
stand in the bird cage versus Utah.
46:02
They won't get that done. So they'll be ultimately
46:05
defeated. They'll give their all this
46:07
game. But I think Iowa State is going
46:09
to suffocate them with a pillow and they'll cover that. 4 1/2 My
46:15
national game, I'm going an old PAC 12 matchup.
46:18
Oregon versus USCUSC, traveling to Austin is one of those games.
46:26
I think the spreads 9 1/2, I don't know what USC is going to
46:30
show up. I really don't.
46:33
And I think that game versus Iowa might have uncovered
46:39
something that they, you know, they can keep up with the
46:42
physical teams in the country. I just don't know, going on the
46:47
road to do that, to try to unlock that, to finally unleash
46:54
it is what you want to do. I'm going to take Oregon -9 1/2.
46:59
They're not. USC is not Indiana, and I don't
47:03
think they're going to be able to get it done in Austin.
47:04
I think Oregon is going to make sure that their home slate is
47:08
clear the rest of the way. So give me the ducks -9 1/2.
47:14
Now my do I go back to the Mac again?
47:18
I think they might have actually played all their games, because
47:20
I think they played them all today.
47:21
No, they have. Do I do I take the final Mac
47:27
game on Saturday? I feel like all the sick of if
47:30
you haven't fit got your fill of maction before Saturday, why are
47:37
you still watching the Mac games on a Saturday with all the other
47:40
games They the Mac is for the weekdays, the Mac is for the
47:45
weekdays. But I'm going to take that
47:47
Saturday game and I'm just going to go back to Bend against Ball
47:52
State. Ball State is stinky garbage.
47:55
Give me Toledo -27 1/2. My God, that number is
48:03
astronomical. Toledo stompsom.
48:07
Midday, not midday. I guess that's a 2:00 PM game on
48:11
ESPN Plus I'll be tuned in. Why not?
48:14
I'll be tuned in to see the Rockets.
48:17
An Elon Musk rocket up a up a Cardinal's butt in me 27 minus
48:26
and I'm looking at. Ball State and it's a 27 1/2
48:29
point spread, but they've won three games in the Max.
48:31
Somehow they beat Kent State Akron in Ohio.
48:37
That'll do it. That will that tells you
48:40
everything you need to know. OU is actually, I feel like OU
48:43
is pretty good. I don't know how they for how
48:46
they ended up doing that. I mean they're they're they're
48:50
there's two teams that are actually worse than them, I
48:52
think. What is who's the Akron's pretty
48:55
bad, but they're not Kent State's garbage.
48:58
I don't understand but the. Ultimate worst.
49:01
Team is UMass haven't won a game they're getting.
49:05
There's no chance that they can stay in the they can't.
49:10
They can't stay D1 forever. The FBS, there's no way they
49:14
have to get sent back down. They have to get relegated.
49:17
They have to. There's no way.
49:19
They don't even have their stadium is like been under
49:22
construction for like 6 years. They have a gravel parking lot.
49:26
They have a gravel construction company right outside of the
49:29
stadium. It's crazy.
49:33
What are we doing, Minutemen? I don't understand why they're
49:37
in the. Mac I I feel like they should be
49:39
an independent nothing honestly. O and 11 O and seven and Mac
49:45
play. I mean, if honestly, if you had
49:48
told me they were in the Mac, I would have been like, what
49:51
there's they're not actually in the Mac.
49:53
I thought they were actually an independent.
49:55
No, they're in the. Mac and they stank.
49:57
They need brought back down, bring up, you know, hell, I'd
50:01
bring up AD 3 Mountain Union School before I played.
50:04
Have UMass out there. They stay smart.
50:08
That would be smart. I don't think that's the worst
50:11
thing that you could do. Have they all, have they always
50:14
been in the Mac? No, no, this is.
50:16
Maybe their second or first year, they're they're bad, man.
50:22
They're bad. They lost a Bryant, dude.
50:27
They lost a Bryant. My neighbor's name is Bryant,
50:31
for God's sake. They lost him.
50:34
They. Yeah, they, this is, no, this is
50:38
their first year back in the Mac.
50:39
So they were in the Mac from 2012 to 2015 and this is their
50:44
first year back in the Mac. That's why I thought they were
50:46
an independent because they're independent from 2016 to 2024.
50:49
I guess I just missed. I guess I just missed.
50:52
That footnote in the whole 2021 to 2024 realignment so that that
50:57
UMass went to the Mac, these guys.
51:00
Out man, they played three quarterbacks today, ran for
51:06
somehow ran for 125 yards. They think there was also.
51:12
I want to say there was a point in time, there was a point in
51:14
time they were playing in Foxboro, that the school is in
51:17
Amherst. Like that's halfway across the
51:21
freaking state. I mean, it's just anyway, we
51:24
don't have to get it. Tiny state.
51:25
Tiny state. Yeah, I know, I know.
51:27
But. Still, it's probably a 2 hour
51:28
drive. It's I, I went to, I, I worked
51:31
with a guy who went to, UM, at UMass Amherst.
51:34
He's like, yeah, we used to go to our games at Foxborough and
51:38
it's like you can't drink or anything because it's like
51:40
you're going to have to drive 2 hours to get back home.
51:43
Like it's just stupid that they did that anyway we could.
51:48
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