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Super Marios Bros. (1993) with Abby Russell · The Bechdel Cast

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  Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast. The questions asked if movies have
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  Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
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  Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and best
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  Speaker 1: start changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hey, Jamie, I've
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  Speaker 1: got a really good intro. Ready, Okay, let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: It's some Beckdel cast. Hello, Oh my god, it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: good listeners. I just want you to know that. Caitlin,
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  Speaker 1: right before saying that, said I've got a really good intro. No,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna leave that in the episode. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I thought you were gonna I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were gonna do something like really heady and be like,
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  Speaker 1: do you believe in podcast? Because that's for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: the journey of this movie, Mario has to believe in
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  Speaker 1: dinosaurs question Mark, which is also his journey in the game.
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  Speaker 1: So it makes total sense. Yeah, this, he would be
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  Speaker 1: on a dinosaur based journey, right, the reliance on the
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  Speaker 1: source material. Yeah, it's it's there. It's palpable. We can
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  Speaker 1: feel it. You can feel I can feel it in
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  Speaker 1: my little freaky dinosaur bones. Well, I thought that was
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  Speaker 1: a great intro, even though I insulted it immediately. I
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  Speaker 1: was just being insecure. I wish I thought of it myself.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's why this is a collaborative effort. It's
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  Speaker 1: true and welcome to the Bectel Cast. My name is
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus Mario. Oh wow, my name is Caitlin Mario Durante,
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  Speaker 1: which actually almost works because my middle name is Marie.
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  Speaker 1: You shouldn't letter off of Mario. You should get that changed.
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  Speaker 1: You should. You should figure that out. It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be a big deal, but like I think it
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  Speaker 1: would really turn some things around. Thank you. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I'll work on it. I'm going to change my middle
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  Speaker 1: name to Bethana or something. I'll change to the last
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  Speaker 1: let's just slap an out on the end of both
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  Speaker 1: of our middle names. Well, here's the thing, Loftus Luigi.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound that similar, but Jamie Loftus Mario. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it could have just been Jamie Luigi. It was right there.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I'm keeping Jamie Loftus Mario. Unfortunately, it's already
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  Speaker 1: legally reflected on my first certificate. I should have asked people. Nah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's your choice anyway. Yeah, I'm Kaitlin Mario Durante.
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  Speaker 1: My voice remains sounding like this. I like this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's the new you baby. And this week we're covering
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  Speaker 1: a movie that is no longer available publicly. I would
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  Speaker 1: guess I don't know how long it's been unavailable publicly,
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  Speaker 1: but I would guess partially because and this is why
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  Speaker 1: we're releasing this now, because of the New Mario movie.
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  Speaker 1: I think this movie has such a bad reputation that
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  Speaker 1: maybe the like studio didn't even want it out for
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  Speaker 1: like comparison. Oh huge, miss Steak. There's no wait, Chris Pratt,
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  Speaker 1: Mario is going to be able to do the things
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  Speaker 1: that are done in this movie. I bet there's not
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  Speaker 1: even going to be a horny fungus. Where's the like
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  Speaker 1: fungus penis coming out of foreskin? It's probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to be in this new movie. And that's a huge disappointment.
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  Speaker 1: It's a disaster. I really, I mean whatever, I guess
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  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for this movie to be good. I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know why. I feel, like Chris Pratt mart Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We've got to We've got to get
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  Speaker 1: our our expert in here because I need I need
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  Speaker 1: some thoughts, I need some experience, I need some I
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  Speaker 1: need to understand what's happening here. But yes, we're covering
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  Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers nineteen ninety three today and we have
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  Speaker 1: an incredible guest. But first we have to tell you
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  Speaker 1: what the Bechtel test is so that we can explain
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  Speaker 1: to you how this movie does pass it. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: the Bechtel test is what we use as a jumping
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  Speaker 1: off point on our podcasts, which we also didn't explain
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  Speaker 1: what this is. Here's what we do. We examine movies
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  Speaker 1: through an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechtel test simply
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  Speaker 1: as a jumping off point to initiate a much more
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  Speaker 1: thoughtful conversation, okay, about representation and such. And the Bechtel
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  Speaker 1: test our version requires that two characters of a marginalized
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  Speaker 1: gender who ideally have names, they must speak to each
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  Speaker 1: other about something other than a man, and ideally, for us,
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  Speaker 1: it's a narratively relevant conversation. And I was so pleasantly
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  Speaker 1: surprised by so many things that happened in this movie,
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  Speaker 1: but that was one of them. And without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: we have an incredible guest today. Let's get her in
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  Speaker 1: the She's a comedian and gamer and a front of ours.
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  Speaker 1: It's Abby Russell. Hello, that's me. I love Wow. That
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  Speaker 1: feels good. Have you ever said that before? I love games? Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: I try to keep it deep down, but it just
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  Speaker 1: feels like a safe space where I can be authentically
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  Speaker 1: myself as a gamer and virgin exactly. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: we accept all kinds here, thank you. So okay, we
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  Speaker 1: have been wanting to cover this movie with you for
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  Speaker 1: a while, only to realize a few days before recording
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  Speaker 1: that it is not available anywhere. However, if listeners are interested,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think John Leguizamo's getting residuals from this movie anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say, don't feel bad about watching it
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  Speaker 1: illegally online, which is what we all did. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: worth it. It's worth your time because this movie rocks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: spoiler alert. We all really liked this movie. I loved it.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of shocked. I didn't think I would
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  Speaker 1: like it as much as I did. I Yeah, well
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  Speaker 1: it was so like I feel like I knew about
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  Speaker 1: this movie's reputation a lot, and then I was like
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  Speaker 1: ready for something that was way less like comprehend principle
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  Speaker 1: or like fun to want. Then I don't know, like yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He ending is a little confusing, but it's like, who,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, Abby, what's your history with this movie?
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  Speaker 1: And I guess the Mario franchise in general? Wow, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I guess with this movie. I've never seen it, heard
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  Speaker 1: a lot about it. I heard it was one of
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  Speaker 1: those like, oh, it's so bad kind of movies. And
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  Speaker 1: I found it to be genuinely fun and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of really inspired choices. And I guess my history with Mario.
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  Speaker 1: I've been working in the gaming industry for far too
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  Speaker 1: long now, so I've played quite a number of Mario games.
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  Speaker 1: I'm familiar with Mario Mario Mario, excuse me, canonically he
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  Speaker 1: is Mario Mario. Do you have a favorite Mario game? Oh, gosh,
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  Speaker 1: there's so many. I mean, I love the Mario Party games.
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's the first choice. I love Mario Party.
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  Speaker 1: Think Mario Party is so fun. There are a billion
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  Speaker 1: of them. I think it's just a good time to
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  Speaker 1: be had all around. Also, Mario Kart. Hard to go
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  Speaker 1: wrong with Mario Kart, perfect game, no notes. Agreed, Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: What is your relationship with this movie slash Mario in general? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a gamer girl and I'm trying to fix
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  Speaker 1: that about myself, but I'm not that's a huge flaw
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  Speaker 1: of yours. I'm really trying to change as a person fundamentally.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't. I Like we've talked about because we've
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  Speaker 1: covered a handful of video game movies on this show before,
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  Speaker 1: not too many. We've covered Lara Croft. Is there anything
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  Speaker 1: else Mortal Kombat movies? Never did a Mortal Kombat Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there's always time. Maybe this is the second one we've covered.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't. I don't know. I wasn't allowed to
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  Speaker 1: play video games growing up, and so by the time
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  Speaker 1: I got them, Yeah, we had a hand me down
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  Speaker 1: console from my cousin that we had to use like
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  Speaker 1: in secret. And then when I got older, my brother
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  Speaker 1: was allowed to play video games, and by that point
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  Speaker 1: I didn't care. But so I played very, very few
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  Speaker 1: video games. I watched my cousins play video game. I
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  Speaker 1: watched my cousins play Mario Kart a lot. I love
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  Speaker 1: Spiro the Dragon, and that's kind of it. But during Lockdown,
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  Speaker 1: I played Top to Botta. Like I've played a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Mario Party, I've watched a lot of Mario Kart,
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  Speaker 1: and I played Luigi's mansion top to Botta during Lockdown,
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  Speaker 1: and I loved Luigi's fucking mansion. I don't really know
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  Speaker 1: what makes a good game or a bad game other
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  Speaker 1: than is it fun for me? And did I finish it?
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  Speaker 1: And so that five mansions for Luigi's mansion. And I
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  Speaker 1: just love Luigi as a guy too. He's just a
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  Speaker 1: long piece of pasta. I love that guy. And I
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  Speaker 1: love John Leguizamo's horny, naive luigish what a sweetie pie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm just like first and Foremosa a Luigi hit.
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  Speaker 1: And I would always like if I did play Mario
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  Speaker 1: Kart with my um oh, that's another question I have
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  Speaker 1: for both of you. When I would play Mario Kart
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  Speaker 1: with my cousins, I would always be Luigi because they're like,
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  Speaker 1: you're tall, and your your favorite colors green. I was like, damn,
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  Speaker 1: they're right. Honestly, I will say, Jamie, you do feel
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  Speaker 1: like a Luigi, and Caitlin you feel like a Mario.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that makes sense for the podd Wait,
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  Speaker 1: that's so, what are your go to characters? If you're
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  Speaker 1: in Mario Kart? Who? Who you? Who? Are you jumping
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  Speaker 1: for it? I love Yoshi, who I guess is canonically
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  Speaker 1: a dinosaur. We can confirm it. There are a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions about it. But when now we know he's
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  Speaker 1: a dinosaur. Yes, I also love shy guy who I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it was in this movie. Unfortunately, there's a
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  Speaker 1: guy and there is room for him. Right. It depends
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  Speaker 1: on the Mario Kart in question, because I was a
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  Speaker 1: big Mario Kart sixty four head as a youth, and
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  Speaker 1: I would almost always actually I did not discriminate. I
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  Speaker 1: was every character in equal parts played the field. I
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  Speaker 1: was playing the field. It was kind of a slut
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  Speaker 1: actually when it came to a proud slut when it
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  Speaker 1: came to who I who I was driving around as
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  Speaker 1: in Mario Kart sixty four. Mario Kart OUI is the
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  Speaker 1: next one. Oh I maybe I don't know enough about
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  Speaker 1: like which Nintendo games showed up with which consoles I
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  Speaker 1: now have a switch. I don't know if there's like
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  Speaker 1: a specifically a switch Mario Kart game or if it's
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  Speaker 1: just sort of like a carryover from Abby do you know?
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  Speaker 1: So there is Mario Kartate Deluxe, which is originally on
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  Speaker 1: the WIIU, but because a lot of people didn't buy
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  Speaker 1: the Wiu. They poured it it to the switch. So
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  Speaker 1: Mari Kardate Deluxe is on the switch and they've released
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  Speaker 1: like DLC just for the switch since then. It's a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of deal it's come out. I play a lot
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  Speaker 1: of Mario Kartate Deluxe, to be honest, so I think
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  Speaker 1: that is like v vest Mario Kart. They haven't made
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  Speaker 1: a new Mario Kart in years, but Mari Kredit is
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  Speaker 1: still very good. So I accepted. It's okay, God, well
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  Speaker 1: allow it. This was all to say that I have
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  Speaker 1: no go to characters. I just play as everyone all
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  Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I think that. And also well again
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  Speaker 1: not to just keep piling on the Luigi praise, but
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  Speaker 1: with Luigi. Maybe this is just a list of questions
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  Speaker 1: I have for Abby in relation to Luigi. Who is Walluigi? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Interesting question? Okay, So like Mario and Luigi are brothers, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then Wario and Walluuigi are like the anti Mario
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  Speaker 1: and Luigi. Okay, but I like to think that Warrio
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  Speaker 1: and Walluwigi are lovers and not brothers. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's canonical. I think that's just a me thing,
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  Speaker 1: But I think they have lover energy and I like
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  Speaker 1: their dynamic personally. I don't know if that answered your question,
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  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to talk about my fan fiction.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I think it does. I think that that
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  Speaker 1: Yin and Yang, you know that that makes sense to
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  Speaker 1: me that that scans. I feel like Warrio and Walluigi
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  Speaker 1: aren't like true villains. They're sort of like fun anti
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  Speaker 1: hero I think they're goofy. People love Walluigi or a
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  Speaker 1: couple of rascals. I like their mustaches. They're spiky because
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  Speaker 1: they're evil. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like real Luigi's mustache. That's
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  Speaker 1: smoothe butter baby. Have you have one more question before
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  Speaker 1: we start talking about the movie? Oh? Great? And then
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  Speaker 1: oh wait, Kito, wait, Caitlyn, what is your history with
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  Speaker 1: the Mario franchise? Oh my gosh, I thought you'd never
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  Speaker 1: ask a right first thing with questions this morning. I
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  Speaker 1: had seen this movie once before, but it's been like
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  Speaker 1: probably twenty years since I've seen it. I knew at
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  Speaker 1: the time that it had like a cult following and
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  Speaker 1: that it was like widely regarded as one of the
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  Speaker 1: worst movies ever made. I watched it, but I think
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't paying very close attention to it back then
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  Speaker 1: because I was just like, man, whatever, like it was
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  Speaker 1: a weird, not very good movie. And then when I
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  Speaker 1: watched it again for this episode, I was like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute, We've been sleeping on this movie for decades.
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  Speaker 1: This movie rocks, and like, no, it's not good quote unquote,
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  Speaker 1: but it's awesome. It's so much not unoring, which is
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  Speaker 1: it's not. It looks amazing. The production designed is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: The performance it's funny. There are jokes and they land.
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  Speaker 1: The casting is incredible, the performances are incredible. It's just
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  Speaker 1: like camp trash and I love it. Yeah, even like
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  Speaker 1: from our perspective, the movie did much better than I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was going right to do. They made Daisy
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  Speaker 1: a paleontologist. It's also so wild that this movie comes
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  Speaker 1: out a few months I think before Jurassic Park. It's like, wow, really,
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  Speaker 1: oh well, Steven Spielberg must have been so happy that
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  Speaker 1: people hated this movie. It's so silly to hate this movie.
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  Speaker 1: What's it doing wrong? I loved it. This movie to
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  Speaker 1: me felt like if you asked an eight year old
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  Speaker 1: boy in the eighties, like, okay, you want to make
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  Speaker 1: a Mario movie. What's it gonna be? And then the
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  Speaker 1: child wrote the script. That's what it felt like to me,
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  Speaker 1: but in like the best way. Yeah, it reminded me
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like the live action teenage Mutant inter
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  Speaker 1: Turtle movies. It reminded me a lot of like Power Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it reminded me of like Casper too, Like
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  Speaker 1: it just like it's like all of these I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's funny that like this movie seems to
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  Speaker 1: be singled out as uniquely bad when it's like doing
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  Speaker 1: I think so many things that like attempting to adapt
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  Speaker 1: olds or properties or like just properties that hadn't been
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  Speaker 1: adapted to like Hollywood movies. It's like you wouldn't. Casper
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  Speaker 1: was like such a goofy, like nothing poofy cartoon that
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  Speaker 1: they turned into like a gritty, kind of like overly
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  Speaker 1: horny live action movie with really fun practical effects. And
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what this is doing. And it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why it caught so much shit. I
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  Speaker 1: truly don't know. Yeah, the third act kind of falls
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  Speaker 1: apart in the climax is barely a climax, But other
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  Speaker 1: than that, it's a perfect film. It's just Snow Tunnel
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  Speaker 1: and it's Ladies from Brooklyn and she doesn't even lose
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  Speaker 1: her s sigarette, and you're just like, wow, I have
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  Speaker 1: no complaints. It's great. See I love the movie. And
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  Speaker 1: then as far as like Mario properties in general, I
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  Speaker 1: grew up playing. I didn't have a Super Nintendo, but
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  Speaker 1: I had like a regular ass Nintendo. So whatever Mario
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  Speaker 1: game was on that I played quite a bit as
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  Speaker 1: a kid. And then my sister and I got a
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  Speaker 1: Nintendo sixty four when I was maybe like twelve or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, and I played Super Mario sixty four.
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  Speaker 1: I played Mario Kart sixty four. Then I got my switch.
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  Speaker 1: At the beginning of the pandemic, I've been playing Mario Party.
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  Speaker 1: I started replaying Mario sixty four, but then I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I have to move on to other things such as
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  Speaker 1: Zelda and Pokemon. There comes a time in every person's
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  Speaker 1: life exactly. And I will say controversially that Smash Brothers
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it either. Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: I don't thank you so much. I also don't like
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  Speaker 1: crossover stuff. I think it is unnatural and unright. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think Mario should be anywhere near Link or any
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  Speaker 1: of the other little freaks they put in that game,
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  Speaker 1: the animal crossing people with bowser, I don't think so,
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  Speaker 1: oh that's the one where they all play together. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like people are like, do you want to play smash,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, I want to have fun? Yeah, exactly. Wow. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so that's just my tirade about Mario stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I have one more question for you before we get
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  Speaker 1: into this discussion, which is, do you have any opinions
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  Speaker 1: on video game movie adaptations in general? Are there any
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  Speaker 1: video game movies that you are like, this is a
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  Speaker 1: good one because they feel like they generally and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong here, but they think they generally kind of
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  Speaker 1: get a bad rap. I think, yeah, I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: I think most do get a bad rap, and most
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  Speaker 1: are not very good. I think the live action ones
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  Speaker 1: of like the eighties and nineties are typically thought of
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  Speaker 1: as like pretty terrible but fun, and then I think
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  Speaker 1: like live action ones today are sort of like they're
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  Speaker 1: so wrote, they're boring, like the Uncharted movies. And then
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  Speaker 1: I think things like the Sonic movies, and I expect
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  Speaker 1: the New Mario movie that will come out is like
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  Speaker 1: a perfectly passable movie for children. Like I think people
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  Speaker 1: go in be like, it's going to be so stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is just for families, it's not really
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  Speaker 1: for you. And I think that's ultimately okay. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think in general a lot of adult viewers should
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  Speaker 1: maybe keep in mind that not all movies are made
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  Speaker 1: for them. Yes, but this seems to be a very
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  Speaker 1: difficult thing for large groups of people to accept. But
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  Speaker 1: then it's like the Last of Us just came out
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like that, I mean, that's been extremely
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  Speaker 1: well received. But that's also mini series for The Last
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  Speaker 1: Us is also based off of a game that is
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  Speaker 1: incredibly cinematic and narrative. Like, so, I think it adapts
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  Speaker 1: really well to television, especially now on the age of
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  Speaker 1: like Prestige TV, whereas like Mario does not have a
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  Speaker 1: coherent narrative. So you're really gonna have to make some
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  Speaker 1: big choices to make a narrative happened, I guess, And
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: they do, they really do. Also, I was like, as
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I was watching this movie, I was like, Wow, a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: world covered in fungus? What is this the Last of Us?
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: There's parallels. Yeah, Mario walked the Last of Us could
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: run exactly. Yes, yes, I haven't watched The Last of
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Us because because you hate having a great time and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: looking at Pedro Pascal, it does not okay to be
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: fair the Last of Us. I don't look at that
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: poster and say that looks like a great time it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe it looks like a good show, but it doesn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like it. I'm gonna have a great time. It's from
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: the I can't talk about the guy who made the
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Last of Us. I have a positive opinion of him,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: but it's his career so wild. He wrote Two Hangovers
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and then Chernobyl and then Last of Us. You're just wow,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: he's as good for him I know. I was like, God,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I was talking to my boyfriend about it about it
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, men can do anything.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: They're They're allowed to try so many things. It's not fair.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted to share speaking of Actually, this is a
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: male director I really really like, and I think most
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: people do. This isn't a hot take, but there's a
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: quote I found from Edgar Wright about how he thinks
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that video game movies don't work in general, and then
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: like said kind of concisely why because he's a gamer girl,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Edgar Wright. He said, quote, there's never been a good
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: video game film. The reason for that is staring you
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: in the face. A video game is a unique experience
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: to you. You are playing the game, just like watching
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: somebody else play a video game is not fun. I disagree,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: it's not fun watching a video game adaptation if you're
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not playing it. There is no game that I would
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: like to adapt. Maybe Rampage, but somebody's probably already doing that.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I believe someone could do that. Did that happen? Yeah,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the raw. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Oh
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: my god. I agree with parts of that. But I think,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like you said, people love watching people play video games,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: like Twitch is huge. I also think there are some
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: good video game adaptions, and I think there are so
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: many video games like The Last of Us where you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: do it does add something to play the game, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: also because it's so narrative and kind of trying to
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: be a movie anyway, it like adapts really easily. Yeah,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: whereas someone like Mario, Yeah, is a different challenge again, Yeah,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: damn well, she'll be Should we get into Super Mario
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Brothers nineteen ninety three, let's two jaguazzone was so handsome,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: all right, and yes, let's do it right after this break. Yes, okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: so here's the recap. So for anyone who has not
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: seen this movie, fix that right now. Yeah, go find
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: go watch this movie. That's impossible to find, literally, Caitlin
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: message me and I Unfortunately, I'm a deviant and I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: know how to find a movie. If I can't find it,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and as like, just google the name of the movie
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and then one to three movies. You'll find it. Your
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: computer will explode, but you'll find it. So it was,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: and sure enough it is there. Yeah, thank you for
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the link. So just for anyone who hasn't seen this movie,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: if you're picturing like an animated or you know, like
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: something esthetically similar to the Mario games you're familiar with,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that is not at all what this is. This movie
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: is a live action reimagining of Mario where Mario and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: his brother Luigi are plumbers in modern day Brooklyn or
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like nineties, nineteen ninety three when it came out. Okay,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: so that's what we're getting into. But first we open
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on animation of dinosaurs sixty five million years ago, which
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: also I don't know if anyone has seen sixty five
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: starring Adam Driver. No, I did not like it was
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Is there an Adam Driver dinosaur movie that's literally in theater? Well,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: at the time of this recording, it's in theaters. What's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: going on? I did see it, and it's another live
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: action movie about humans interacting with t rexes and other dinosaurs.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Did they show a big dinosaur egg that then a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: baby girl comes out of? That? Almost happens in sixty five.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: The opening sequence with the woman running to the church
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: reminded me of the Hunchback of Notre Dame, except it
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: goes way better for her. I don't know, the church
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: is nice to her. So it's sixty five million years ago.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Then a meteorite hits and voiceover says, yeah, this meteorite
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: hit the earth. But what if not all dinosaurs were destroyed?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: What if the impact of this meteorite created an alternate
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: dimension where dinosaurs continue to thrive and evolve into intelligent species.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: You're like, what movie? Then we cut too? I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies where a woman is running frantically around Brooklyn.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: She leaves something on the stoop of a church, then
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: goes into the sewer where she runs into Coopa played
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: by Dennis Hopper, and he's mean and she's scared of him,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: and then maybe like the tunnel collapses on him. We're
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: not really sure. We cut to the church. What has
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: been left on this stoop was a large egg which
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: hatches and inside is what appears to be a human baby. Yes,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: so it's a bunch of nuns who are like touching
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the egg and you're like, oh my god, what is it?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And then like a human baby comes out and they're like,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: whoa a miracle? Better raise it, like I'm saying, I mean,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it just turns out way. And then later this is
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the being raised in a church thing is only brought
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: up one other time, and she's like, yeah, it was great.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, huge divergence from Hunchback of Notre Dame.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He had a brutal time in that damn church. The
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: what was it? Oh? At first, at first I assumed
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that the baby coming out of the egg was Mario.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So it made me laugh when it was like twenty
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: years later, I'm like, are they gonna try to tell
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: me Bob Hoskins is twenty years old? But it would
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: have been fun though along with the egg, this woman
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: also left behind a bluish crystal, which will become important later.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: We then cut to present day aka nineteen ninety three.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: We meet Mario played by Bob Hoskins and his younger
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: brother Luigi played by John leg was almost incredible, perfect cast,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: perfect casting. It's so good you wouldn't think that. I mean,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I guess it's just like two people with just like
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: off the charts levels of charisma, where were like, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: guess they would work together, how could they not? And
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: they do and they do. They are plumbers who get
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: called in for a job, but their competitor, the mean
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: mister Scapelli, gets their first. Mister Scappelli is also trying
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: to shut down a paleontological dig where NYU students are
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: digging up dinosaur bones, which is a project led by
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Daisy played by Samantha Mathis. This is also like eighties
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and nineties kind of villains where I mean, and I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: kind of miss this in like big cartoonish real estate
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: developer villains who get humiliated by the end of the movie.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Like this happens in almost all of these kinds of adaptations,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: and I always like it. Yeah, it's always some scrappy
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: kids that are like, don't build them all here, and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: then they don't. That's why. Then they don't and works
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: and we love it, just like in real life exactly.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Then we meet these two goons, Spike and Iggy, who
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: work for Cooper, and it seems like they are fish
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: out of water. They're eating hot dogs the wrong way,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: which Jamie's cheering, always cheering. They think that they're eating
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: actual dog meat. They throw away the buns. It's hilarious.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, depending on where you source it, you could
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: be eating actual dog meat. Sometimes the rumors are true,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and I appreciated that deconstruction of the form. Oh sorry, sorry, guys.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Fleet just pooped and so he's walking around and screaming
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: that's what I do too. He's sometimes when he really
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: lays an egg, it has to he's like, call the nuns.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Scream it out, called the nuns. We get a live one. Okay,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: all right, sorry, no worries. So Mike and Iggy are
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: maybe from another dimension in but they are trying to
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: kidnap Daisy. Yeah, Daisy. Meanwhile, cross his path with Luigi
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and he's like, hubb a hubba whooah, who is that?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: But Luigi is really bad at flirting, so Mario steps
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in and helps Mario smooth as hell, Mario. Women are
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: dropping at this guy's feet. Yeah, I love and he's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a good boyfriend. I was like, wow, he treats women right.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I was into it. He does both of them. They're
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: so sweet to the women in their lives, and it's like, wow,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it's really nice. We never see this. I was like jealous.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I was jealous of Daniella. Yeah, he's so affectionate, he's
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: so nice and that. So they offer Daisy a ride
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: and then Luigi asks her to dinner that night. Cut
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: to dinner. It's a double date between Luigi and Daisy
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and Mario and his girlfriend Daniella. This is where we
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: discover that Daisy is the baby who hatched from the
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: egg at the beginning, because she has that blue crystal
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: which she wears around her neck as a necklace, and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: we're like, wow, blue crystal necklace, Heart of the Ocean much. Also,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: there's a moment where Luigi's like I'm flying Mario and
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you're like, whoa James Cameron ripped it off. Okay, So
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: then Luigi is like, wow, Daisy, your job digging up
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: dinosaur Bones is so cool, and she's like, I'll show you,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: so she takes him down to the sewer. Meanwhile, Spike
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: and Iggy kidnap Mario's girlfriend Daniella because they mistake her
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: for Daisy, but they realize they've gotten the wrong person,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: so then they follow Daisy and Luigi into the sewer. Meanwhile,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Daisy and Luigi are about to smooch, but then some
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: pipes burst And this is maybe my favorite joke of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the movie, where Luigi, who is a plumber, she's like,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, thank goodness you're here. You're a plumber,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and he's like, that's right, I know exactly what to do.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Cut to them going to Mario because because Luigi doesn't
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: know what he's doing. Yeah, it's like, I also like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that it's sort of cannon that Luigi doesn't know what
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: he's doing. He's just an apprentice. True God. Also not
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to like keep Thursday after John l. Zamba. But I
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, he's probably like twenty two. Here he's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: thirty three. Really, oh my god. I was like he
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: looks so young. Good for him. Look, I mean I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: have no explanation, I just have the truth. I will
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: say I did appreciate how many times that they got
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: out of situations via plumbing, either like messing with the
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: plumbing or repairing the plumbing. I thought that was a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: really fun way to be like, look, they're plumbers. This
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: is what they know how to do. They are going
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: to plumb. Yeah, they're not Mary Sue plumbers, so they
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: use skills they already have all the time. There's even
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: like it got more. I was like, wow, this is
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: getting kind of granular, Like Mario is talking Luigi through
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: some HVAC shit at one point, and you're just like,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: this is like pretty intense, working class heroes, blue color heroes.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: And then they mentioned their union. Yeah, plumbers famously have
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: like some of the strongest unions in like the world.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So it's also like, man, I believe that these guys
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: working class heroes. Luigi has like a rainbow tool belt.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: He's an ally ally god. I love these guys. They rock.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I also wondered the way that they set up, like
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it seems like the way that Mario and Luigi get
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: plumbing work is by like walking around. I was like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: don't they call you? Why are you walking around looking
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: for plumbing problems? But I don't know. I've never worked,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I've never apprenticed, so I can't say for sure. Sure,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: um okay, So now they all go back down to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the sewer to fix these pipes. But oh no, the
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: goons kidnapped Daisy and bring her through this port hole,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but her crystal necklace gets left behind. Luigi and Mario
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: grab it, and then they jump through the port hole
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: as well, which is just like a rock face. They
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: go into the sewers and then it's like kind of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: an underground like kve canyon thing and they jump into
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: like a wiggly rock essentially precisely, This like helped me
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: understand a little better when like the two directors who
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: did this also invented that character Max Headroom, who looks
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: similarly bizarre. It was like an eighties I associated with MTV,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: but it was like this eighties TV host that was
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: just a computer generated head and I think he wore sunglasses,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And it was supposed to be like this cool futuristic
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: like gen X kids love this, and they did. You're like,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: all right, but it like the graphics are super similar,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and that was well, I'm excited to talk about the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: production of this movie because it's there's so much cue.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. One of the directors poured hot coffee,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: had an extra You're like, what the fuck is man
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: John Leguizamo, Like injured Bob. They was driving the Mario
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like their plumbing car drunk because they were drunk all
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, I already hurt Bob Hoskins and he
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: had to wear a cast for most of the movie.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: He's wearing a flush, flush colored cast. Anyways, the backstories
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: wild good trivia. They did flip a lot of cars.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I was kind I'm amazed at how many big action
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: sequences there were. I loved it. They spared no expense.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: It felt like almost Tim Burton Batmanny the way the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: action was at some point, whereas like big action sequences
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: with like a pause for jokes. Yes, this is not
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: really the tone of the script, but more the aesthetics
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: of like especially on the villain's dressed. Have you y'all
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: seen the movie Dead Ringers. No, No, it's a freaky,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: weird movie that is very totally different. But it's about
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: these two twin gynecologists based off of like I think,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: real life, and then they like I think maybe start
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: like mutilating and murdering people and then also like each other,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and then they have these weird, freaky tools. But anyway,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I felt like real similar aesthetics, like they were in
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the same world kind of vibe. Okay, God, that's wild,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: all right. So Luigi and Mario jump through to this
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: alternate dimension which is similar to New York City, but
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's really kooky and some people look like reptiles and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: everything is covered in ungus, and Mario and Luigi are like,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? But they have to keep chasing the
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: goons who captured Daisy. Meanwhile, Coopa and his sidekick slash
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: girlfriend or I don't really know what their relationship is exactly,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: It was unclear, but she definitely like it's that will
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: get back to her. But yeah, it's like she definitely
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: is primarily motivated by ambition, but it also does seem
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: like she's kind of in love with Dennis Hopper. Yes,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: it does seem because she So this is Lena played
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: by Fiona Shaw, who some listeners might recognize as Aunt
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Petunia from Harry Potter movies. Is that her most famous role?
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: That was what I recognized her? I guess I know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: her from like Killing Eve. Oh. Yes, she's great in
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: killing Eve. Yeah, she's so good. She's great, and this
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: is this is like peak good villain costuming for her. Yes,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: such good outfits. So Coopa and Lena reveal their plan.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So Coopa needs the missing piece of the meteorite that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: had split the two dimensions because they're in the dimension
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: where the people evolved from reptiles. So Coopa hates mammals
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: because he's like a dinosaur man, and he also resents
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: that mammals get to live above ground with clean water
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and fresh air, and that he and his reptile people
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: are stuck in this like seward dimension. So this piece
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: of the meteorite will help them merge the worlds because
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: he's gonna like stick it in the big meteorite and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: it's gonna bring these two worlds together, and he wants
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: to who over everyone. And if you're if you don't understand,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that's fine, hell, like it doesn't really I can't really
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: get it out. It's like something about merging the word.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And then it gets really really heavy where it's like
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: we want to do it, and then there's like kind
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: of there's like some attempted commentary on like fascistic societies
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: because Kopa is like this fascist leader and then he's
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: trying to like brainwash people into being gumbas that don't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: question him. And then he can also make people smarter.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: But if you make them smarter, they've become socialist revolutionaries.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: There's like a lot of like stuff going on. Correct,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and I liked it all. But it's like this, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: don't know if Mario is like able to handle this
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: level of commentary, but I like that they tried, right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: They're like this dinosaur realm is a police state and
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Mario Luigi have to come in and dismantle it. Their
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: rest toad for singing like a Bob Dylan song about popa.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: You're like, whoa this is? This is intense, it's wild.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, So as Mario and Luigi are trying
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to navigate through the chaos with being in this alternate dimension.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: A woman with a red and very spiky outfit, yes,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: the judge from Legally Blonde. Yes, great character actor a moment,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Wait what is her? She was my favorite part of
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the movie. I loved everything about her. Incredible, incredible Francescape Roberts, yes,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: whose name we will learn is birth a little later on.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But she steals the necklace from Mario and Luigi. Well, really,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: an old lady steals it, and then she comes along
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: and throws it. The old lady over a bridge and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: steals it first. Yes, what a two punch. Women can
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: do anything. It's really We're still recording this during women's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: history months, and in that moment I was like, wow,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I felt it. Yeah, girl power because the older lady,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: I think, takes advantage of what the Mario's assume of her,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: which is that she's weak and defenseless. And then she
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: mugs them and then Bertha throws her off, but he
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: continues to fight, and then Shop steals a car or something. Yeah,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that sequence was so fun. I loved it. It's great. Okay,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: So then Mario and Luigi meet Toad, who is, like
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you said, Jamie, like a musician who's singing songs. Very
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: weird adaptation of that character. Yes, like swirly hair. They didn't.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: They made some choices on that one. Yeah, they shrink
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: anything about the care am I Like, I mean, I'm
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: not super well versed, but like, is there anything about
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the character Toad that's like particularly musical or counterculture? It's like,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: why did they make Toad is just like a little
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: dude who's like, here's the tutorial for the game. Right
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in the later games, he like goes around exploring. He's
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like a Captain Toad. But yeah, I was like, that's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: the little guy that tells me what lap I'm on.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Exactly his job, queer icon Toad. He's just doing his job,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: you know. But I mean I thought again, just like
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: another fun, weird swing that this movie makes you like, Yeah,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I guess that he's an acoustic guitarist. Sure. Yes. So
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: they all get arrested and thrown in jail for like
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: no reason really, and Cooba shows up and he's like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi, give me that meteorite piece, and they're like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: we don't have it. So Coopa gets mad and d
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: evolves Toad because he has this machine where you can
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: either evolve or d evolve people, and so he d
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: evolves Towed into a reptile with a tiny head and
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: makes him join the Goomba army because in this version
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: of Mario, gumbas are not the little mushroom guys. No,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: gumbas are fascist soldiers with tiny heads, very small, huge bodies,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: tiny little heads. It's clearly an adult man sticking his
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: head up and controlling a puppet. Yes, which we love
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: to see. I wish we saw more of it, but
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: it's yeah. And then also the I mean again, like
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: they attempted, like they're like, but the goombas can't be
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: deep programmed by showings of human kindness or something because
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: they bring daisy vegetables. Well, that's that's toad goombah. Oh
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: that's just how the fuck am I. They gave him
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a harmonica immediately, that's how you tpreciate it. Yeah, because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: he's got the harmonica. Clearly, I'm not operating on the
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: intellectual level this movie is. I was like, wow, that's
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: so nice. There was a lot of layers going on
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: with the plot. I was just like, I'm here to vibe.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to follow what's happening at any point. Yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I think that that's the intention, and if it isn't,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: that's the way to best enjoy this movie. Well, I
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: was analyzing it through a like narrative storytelling screenwriting point
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of view, and I was like, honestly, things track I'm following.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: It's working for me. It basically works, and that's honest.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Even more than most movies do, and it's not boring,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And that's definitely. That's the thing. Is like, even if
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: the new Mario movie is good, I bet it will
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: be boring. Oh yeah, I think it's going to be
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: perfectly milk toast and a perfectly passable movie to watch
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: with your nephew. Yeah, which, fine, sure, whatever, No minions,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: no minions, honey, I tell you what. Nothing. They're taking
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: risks over a minion, damn right, they're making swings. Yeah, okay.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So Mario and Luigi are like still being detained. They
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: fight back and escape in a stolen cop car and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they drive through a tunnel and end up in the desert. Also,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: this thing keeps happening where it seems like the fungus
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: that's covering everything is like helping them and giving them
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: little trinkets that they are gonna use later, like little bombs. Yeah. Meanwhile,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Coopa decides to evolve Spike and Iggy to make them
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: smarter so that they'll be better at helping him. And
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: then Lena goes to Daisy and she's like, here's the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: thing about your mother and father. Your father was the king.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Your mother is that lady who saw at the beginning
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: who left the egg at the church because she's trying
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: to keep her later egg in front of a bunch
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: of nuns, and so we realize, oh, Daisy, is this
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: like princess from this alternate realm? And Lena also tells
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Daisy that the reason Coopa wants her is that he
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: thinks Daisy is the only one who can merge the dimensions,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like her body can withstand the force that it will
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: take yourself, very like royalist, but you're like heat's Mario.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: I just gotta I just gotta roll with it. I
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: don't have time to think about royalist bloodline bullshit. I
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: can't do it. But you know. This is also when
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Daisy meets a little dinosaur named Yoshi, who is nice
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and who is also treated as Koopa's prisoner, so Yoshi
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: and Daisy become friends. Back in the desert, Mario and
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Luigi run into the goons Spike and Iggy, who are
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: trying to get the meteorite piece still, then they all
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: head back into the city to take the meteorite piece
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: from the woman who stole it, Bertha, who works as
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: a bouncer at a nightclub. So Mario Luigi go to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: the club Mario gets the necklace from Bertha by flirting
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and dancing with her. They have a very sensual dance moment.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: It's honestly, very well done. I was into it. Yeah,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Oh, I really loved it. Yeah, like
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it was they played it straight in a way that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's so cool that they hired like
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: mostly classically trained actors for this because they're not out
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: of context. You're like, this could be in so many
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: different movies. Yes, and I loved that Mario. Mario was like,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: the way I'm gonna win over this woman's heart is
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: by being like, I am horny when you punch me,
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Please keep doing that. And she's like, okay, big boy,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: let's do it. And it works like a charm. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: also I'm like, I think he's kind of serious, right, Yes, yes,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: so there's like a kink element to this movie too.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: It's awesome, thrilling. Yes. Yeah, So he steals the necklace back.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: She realizes what has happened, but she's like, shrug, they're
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: my friends now, So she helps them escape and also
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: steals a little kiss. Oh yeah, they kiss, but they
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: have to escape when Lena shows up with some goomba's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and immediately steals the media right necklace from Mario and Luigi,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: so now Lena has it. Mario and Luigi show up
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: at Kopa's house slash head quarters slash layer whatever, suddenly
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: dressed in far more Mario and Luigi outfits that we
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen them in before. Yeah, they're wearing like really
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: generally nineties clothes up to this point. Yeah, there's a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: scene in an elevator where they get the goombas to dance.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: They really just like disarm a lot of the villains
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: by dancing with them, I realized, which is beautiful. Meanwhile,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Lena approaches Daisy and she's about to stab Daisy, but
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Yoh saves her, Daisy escapes. Lena stabs Yoshi, but he
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't die. For some reason, I thought for sure he
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and Lena died in that scene, but it turns out
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: they're both fine. And Yo, she's just wearing a little collar, yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: which then she just took off. It was like you've
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: been wearing the collar like you could have just taken
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: it off earlier. I was surprised that she was suddenly
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: able to take it off. Nothing really changed, that's true, No,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: that was a little confusing to me, but I was
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: just like, honestly, I just I was. I was bummed
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: out when I thought Lena had died, and I was like, oh,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I guess, I guess she made it great. No, she
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: just dies later, Yeah, in a really cartoony way. She's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: just skeletonified. Yep. Okay, So Daisy with the help of
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: Goompa Toad and Iggy and Spike, who have turned on
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Kopa and are now and are loyal to Daisy and
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: her father, the King, which is weird because it's like,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: but they they're talking like their socialist revolutionaries, and it
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was really funny where they're like they put you through
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: the smart machine. But then it's like but then they
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: also are like, we love the King, and I'm like,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: put them through the smart machine one more time. Right,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: They're going to see the means of productions down there
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: in Dino York exactly. So Iggy and Spike showed Daisy
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: her father, who is this giant blob of sentient fungus
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: wall and She's like, hi, Dad, He's just a throbbing
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: pile of sealing fungus. And I loved it. I loved it.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It's so the color is like nauseating. It's like dripping
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: goo everywhere, kind of is fleshy looking. I was just thinking,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like if I were a child, I think I would
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: be scared by the fungus. It wasn't even like fun
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and cartoony. It was realistic and disgusting. Yes, yeah, like
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: it was like a throbbing flesh colored like yeah, fungus.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: It was both wet and dry somehow. Wow, beetles, juice, come, scabs, vibes.
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: We don't have time, I can't, Okay, So Mario and
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Luigi reunite with Daisy. She introduces them to her fungus dad,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and then Mario goes to rescue his girlfriend, Daniella and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: the other Brooklyn women who the goons had previously kidnapped,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: thinking they were also Daisy. Amazing. They escape via sliding
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: down this huge icy pipe, and then Mario, Luigi, Daisy,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and Daniella they're like ready to go back to Brooklyn,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: but oh no. Coopa finally gets his hand on the
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: meteorite piece and he's ready to like reunite the piece
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: with the rest of the meteorite. But then there's this
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: climactic scuffle where Mario is trying to stop Coopa. The
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: two dimensions start merging at one point. It's at this
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: point it is genuinely really confusing what is going on.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: The third act really again falls apart, and the climax
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: is like, not that satisfying because it just like they
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: pretty easily are able to blow up Coopa with a
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: BA bomb and then they de evolve him into a
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: dinosaur and then Goo. But also they like defeat the
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: like mob boss in Brooklyn who is like the real
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: estate guy. Yeah, I de evolving him into a chimpanzee, right,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: which was also like, okay, we'd solve that problem pretty
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: quick too, Like now we're gonna go back to the
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: underground world and I guess that's fine. Yeah, everything's great.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Um so every celebrating the fungus king returns to his
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: human self, and then Mario and Luigi go to leave
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and return to Brooklyn, and Daisy's like, I'm gonna stay here,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: and Luigi's like, damn, girl, but I love you and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: she's like yeah, but I gotta figure out who I
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: am and he's like respect wow, so and sort of
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Mario says that for him, yeah, it's because Maria's an
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: ally and watching them kiss for a little too long,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: but it's a horny movie, very horny. And then Mario
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: and Luigi go back to Brooklyn, back to their normal lives.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Some time passes, and then one day Daisy shows up
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: at their door and it's like, you gotta come with
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: me and they're like okay, which is setting up a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: sequel that never happens because this movie was a box
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: office flop. Yeah. Also, I did like the implication that
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: she's like, you know, Cooper is dead, my dad's me back.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: We got to rebuild the city. Things are gonna be
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: good again. And then she comes back like her clothes
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: are all torn, She's like covered in soot. She has
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like this huge gun. She's like, I need your help.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, what happened down there? Things are supposed to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: get better, right right to people turned on the monarchy? Yeah,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: maybe Spike and Iggy took over because they're just like
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: death to the king. Actually, shall we shall we take
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a quick break and then come back to discuss many
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: of the complex themes in this an incredible movie. Yes,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: let's we'll be right back, and we're back. I wanted
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: to talk about before we get into the deeply nuanced
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: discussion this movie requires, Yes, I want us to just
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: do some recaps of behind the scenes stuff that happened
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: in this movie. It is I think, equally notorious for
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: being a very messy behind the scenes story as it
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: is for being a movie that's considered to be bad.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: There's a really good half hour short doc on it
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel Gaming Historian, where I learned a lot,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: including it just like feels so of the time, the
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: way that they were trying to build this. They originally
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: hired the screenwriter for Rainman, Yes, to write the screenplay,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: and then he was fired because they didn't like the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: script because they said it was too similar to Rainman,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: which I don't know what that means, to the point
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: where they called the script Drainman, which is funny because
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: of plumbing and pipes ha ha ha. But or is
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: this a bit no, this is true, This is like
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: really called it Drainman. Maybe it probably like has the
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: working title. That's still though, and I think that like
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: part of the reason this movie is so weird in
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: a way that we obviously like. But it's like this
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: was the first big Hollywood video game adaptation ever. I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: think it was so poorly received at the time that
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't make another live action Nintendo movie until Detective
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Pikachu over twenty five years later. Like this movie, it's
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: scared Nintendo big time in terms of like adapting their
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: properties into movies. But in any case, at the time,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: it was seen like as experimental and like Mario is
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: like too big to fail. They're like, well, let's hire
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: some experimental filmmakers and like see what they do, because
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that was sort of what was done at the time.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I don't like, I think it was positioned as like
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: what a weird thing to do, but it's like giving
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Tim Burton Batman was weird and that worked out great,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: and like there were sort of scrappy indie filmmakers that
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: were given these big properties and it would do well,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: so like made sort of sense. They hired this director
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: turned producer named Roland Joffey, who had won an Academy
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Award before for making a movie about genocide and Cambodia.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: So again it's just like which I'm sure is a
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: great movie, but it doesn't seem like a natural fit
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: for the Super Mario Brothers movie, but they give it
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: to him. He hires the screenwriter from rain Man, like
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: it just seems all bizarre. They hire the production designer
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: from Blade Runner, which I think is why this movie
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: looks so cool. Yeah, they hire an Academy Award winning
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: cinematographer as well, and then they end up like they
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: have trouble with casting because Nintendo has opinions on who
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: should play Mario who shouldn't. Dustin Hoffman almost played Mario,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: which I think would have been fun, but also I
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: guess if the Rainman issue was already an issue, that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: would not help. I don't know. And then Tom Hanks
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: was almost Mario. I think that would have sucked. That
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: would have been normal, too normal, you know what I mean. Yeah,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Mario shouldn't be like I don't know, Bob Hoskins makes
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: more sense. The only person who would make more sense
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: than Bob Hoskins is Danny DeVito, who was offered the
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: part and turned it down because he's at the screen
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: sucked because he's a discerning king. And then Coopa they
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: wanted Arnold Schwarzenegger or Michael Keaton, and then they didn't
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: want anyone for Luigi except John Leguizamo, I'm pretty sure,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: which is great. In any case, they ended up hiring
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: there's two directors on this movie. It's a married couple,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Rocky Morton and Annabelle Jankel, so we're like, Yay, there's
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a woman director on this movie. But unfortunately they're both evil.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: They were very hated by everyone. It sounds like they were. So.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: They were most famous for inventing Max's Headroom, like we're
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: talking about earlier. They didn't have feature experience. They'd done
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: like a bunch of very like eighties nineties gen X
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: experimental music videos and shit like that, and then they
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: were like, sure, we'll do like the Tim Burton thing
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: and give you this big movie to direct, which they
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: were bad at. Everyone in the cast started drinking during
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the day all the time. They called each other cruel names.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: The directors, I guess, were really demanding and also didn't
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: know what they were doing. They were being very disrespectful
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: to these like incredibly well regarded like cinematographers and production
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: designers they had hired and were micromanaging people who knew
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: what they were doing more than they did. It said
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that Rocky Morton poured hot coffee on an extra. John
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Leguizamo said that why they there's five hundred different versions
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: of the story. Ultimately, it seems like he was mean,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: cartoonishly mean. At some point, like in production they wouldn't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: let the director talk to the writers anymore because the
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: directors were constantly trying to get shit rewritten. The movie
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: was rewritten almost every day, Like everyone was miserable. Yeah,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: John Leguizamo and Bob Hoskins are drunk during basically every
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: shot of this movie, to the point where John Leguizamo
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: like almost I don't know if he broke Bob hoskins
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: leg or what happened, but like Bob Haskins was wearing
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: a cast for a lot of the movie. It's just
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: seems like it was pretty horrific. Yeah, Hoskins said, oh, yes,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: give me that quote. I love that quote. The worst
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: thing I ever did Super Mario Brothers. It was a
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: fucking nightmare. The whole experience was a nightmare. It had
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: a husband and wife team directing whose arrogance had been
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: mistaken for talent after so many weeks, their own agent
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: told them to get off the set. Fucking nightmare. And
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: then Dennis Hopper, who, by the way, I feel like
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: is playing a similar villain to the villain he played
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: a few years earlier in Speed he was like invoking
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: some of that. He also thought it was quote a nightmare.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: It was a husband and wife directing team who were
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: both control freaks and wouldn't talk before they made decisions.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: We've all been around couples like that. I think, yeah,
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: just a fucking nightmare. So I think I'm which always
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: kind of elevates the fact them. Like all things considered,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it turned out that bad if people
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: were that fucking miserable the whole time. There was also
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: like I was looking for pictures of them. I couldn't
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: find them, But I guess that they the crew hated
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: these directors so much that they started like making T
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: shirts that openly and they would wear them to set,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: like it was like, oh my god, hated these directors.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: It just seemed it seemed like they were really in
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: the trenches over there. Whenever you like hear about these
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: super toxic working environments, it always just is like it's
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: wild to see like people at their limits, Like these
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: are people on their worst behavior and it makes everyone
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: on their worst behavior, and then they do just wild
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: things like that where they're like I'm gonna make a
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: T shirt just to tell my boss to go fund themselves,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Like that is just wild. There is something. Yeah, it
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: was like I know, like we've all been in like
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: whatever job it is for you that you're like, this
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: is where I really became a different version of myself
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: because I was so upset about where I was working.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: And there is like something so powerful about bonding with
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: co workers who are miserable in the same exact way
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you do, or you are and like are mad at
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the same authority figure you are, and then you make
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: a T shirt sometimes off good. I would love to
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: see this t shirt. Anyways, that's the background of this movie.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Can I share a couple additional things that I learned? Yeah,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: this one is just a fun fact. A lot of
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: different screenwriters were brought on to write a draft and
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: then fired basically, and then another screenwriting team or duo
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: would be brought on too, you know, write the next draft.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: So one of these screenwriting teams that wrote a draft
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: of the movie later said that essentially what we did
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: was what Shrek did. How so they because their version
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: was a take that was like subverting fairy tale cliches
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: in satirizing them. So that's that fun fact. At another point,
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: a different writing team was brought on. This was Dick
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Clement and Ian La friends of Lafrenis. I'm not sure, Lass,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. They were brought on to deliver And
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling this from scholarly journal Wikipedia of course, which,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: by the way, the Wikipedia entry for this movie is
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: one of the longest Wikipedia entries for a movie that
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I have ever seen. Oh, I mean there's people love
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: talking about disaster sets. Yeah, yes, so there's a lot here.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so this screenwriting tream was brought on to
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: deliver a more adult and feminist tone where the version
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: that they wrote Princess Daisy and Lena's roles were expanded,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: and they were the ones who added the character of Bertha,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and it was their script that finally convinced Bob Hoskins
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: to take on the role of Mario. I'm not totally
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: sure how much the script was rewritten after that draft,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: but it seems like probably significantly. Probably, But also I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: would guess that, like an earlier draft, Lena's role might
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: have been scaled back, and so like her prominence in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the movie that we see, I wonder if that was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: like thanks to this draft of the screenplay. I hope, so,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, and also I mean, we'll talk about this
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: in a little bit, but like Daisy, I don't know,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: that's why I was like, I feel like Daisy seems
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: like maybe a victim of a lot of rewrites where
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: she starts out as a super like motivated and smart
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: and cool character and then she's like she disappears for
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: a pretty big chunk, but then she comes back at
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the end and like becomes a more active character at
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the end. But she's kind of like, I mean, I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: guess that's like the most Mario thing in the world
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: to do is to have a princess in a tower.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: That's cannon. But I did appreciate that, Like, it wasn't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: just like we're gonna put her in a tower for
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: most of the movie and she won't have a personality
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah blah blah. Like she had a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: lot of cool stuff going on. Yeah, this isn't a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: side that this soldis reminded me of. But have y'all
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: ever played or do you know about the one Princess
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Peach game that they made? No? Never played it. No,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: it was for the Nintendo DS. I did play it
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: and loved it, but it is like the only one
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: where Princess peaches a protagonist. She's proactive and her powers
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: no joke are is like her emotions. She's very emotional,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: social cry and it'll like flood, she'll get overly angry
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: in line on fire. So it's a little bit of controversy.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I like, you made the one woman character like overly
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: emotional and that's her skill. But I don't know if
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: that's just reminded me of that that is fascinating. I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: was like, I think I need the weekends to cook
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: on how I feel about that? So wid um well,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I guess, I mean, and in that way, this movie
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: does better than that. Like she has she's a woman
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: in stem she's a woman. She's running as like an
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: undergrad running her own paleontology department because she's like twenty,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: so she's probably like a sophomore or junior or something.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: But she's like, no, I'm I'm leading this project of
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: this like intensive New York City dinosaur find Yeah You're like, yeah, sure, great,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: Like I thought that was great. Like I like that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: it's also rooted in like who she is as a character,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Like it makes sense that she's interested in dinosaurs. She's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: part dinosaur questions. I didn't even think about that. Yeah,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: not really sure, but it feels like they really thought
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: it through. And with her relationship with Luigi, like he
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: is doing the like auga cartoon wolf eyes at her
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: at first, but I thought in general he was so
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: he was very sweet to her, is very polite. He
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: really liked her for her. They go at an actual date. Yeah,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: like he's interested and who she's like. It makes I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: liked that they connected on like not knowing who their
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: real parents were. It just felt like a real cute relationship.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I am so here for this romance. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: like you said, he's he's so sweet to her. She's
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: like insecure about what she does for a living slash
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: her academic pursuits. You probably think him weird that I'm
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: a twenty year old dinosaur genius and he's like, no,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's so freaking awesome. And so he's like
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: interested in her work and her mind. And I love
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: that moment with them on the sidewalk where they both
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, if you if you think I suck
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm not cool, like you can totally like bail
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: right now and that would be fine, and then she
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: she's like I was gonna say the same thing, like
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: if you want to bail on me, Like that's totally cool.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I just thought that was so sweet. I was like, oh,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: but you guys are so great together. I loved them.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: It's and then when she introduces Luigi to her fungus dad,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: he's like, oh my god, it's such an honor to
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: meet you. She had this like ball of goo. He's
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: so cute, so sweet. I also love that they didn't
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: make Mario the one who was gonna like get the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: girl at the end, like he's like, I got a
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: steady girlfriend. I might kiss the judge from Legally Blonde
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: on the side, but like I'm covered, I'm good, I'm
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: here for my little bro. And I really liked that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: I thought that was really sweet. Yeah, and his relationship
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: with Daniella. I mean, even though Daniella doesn't get the
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: same emphasis or like character development that Daisy does, it
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: seems like they have a good relationship. And then I've
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: been together for a long time. I do wish her
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: name is Peach though yeah, right, I know, I don't
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: know what. But then but they really like doubled down
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: on they're like they're just in Brooklyn. It's just Brooklyn
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety three, because there's a bunch of I mean, yeah,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I was expecting to not be into
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: any of the romantic pairings introduced in this movie, but
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: I thought, especially for nineteen ninety three, you're like, this
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: is really sweet. They're like very affectionate, sweet partners. I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: just wish that like that Daisy and Daniella got to
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: like participate in the action. Yeah, right, more or at all.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Daisy has moments. I mean, she doesn't really participate in
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: the action. She does have because it's like at the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: beginning she is very motivated and does a lot of stuff.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Then she's kidnapped and is kind of sidelined for a
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: good chunk of the movie, and then we basically just
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: see her talking to Yoshi, which kind of gave me
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: like Jasmine from Aladdin vibes where she's like, it's just
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: me and my animal and we're trapped here and we're
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: just gonna have little conversations and you're like okay, and
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: then you get a little bit of her in Lena.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: I thought those conversations were pretty cool where I think
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Sometimes you're like programmed with the expectation
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, Lena will probably like feel bad for
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: her and act maternally and blah blah blah. But Lena's like, no,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: I want to merge the worlds or whatever that plot
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: point is, and I'll kill anyone who's in my way
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, And so you know, I thought that
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: was fine, But then she doesn't really get to physically
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: do anything again until she breaks out of the tower.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: But I was also honestly surprised that she breaks out
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of the tower. Yeah, mostly with the help well, because
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: she keeps getting saved and then recaptured, But I don't
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: think at any point she was actually like physically saved
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: by Mario and Luigi. Okay, So, I mean the whole
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: premise of both this movie and Mario Games in general
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: is like, oh, we have to save the princess from
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Bowser or Cooper or you know whoever has kidnapped the princess,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and usually it's Princess Peach. If we're talking about the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: video games. In this movie, it's Daisy, who is like
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: Daisy canonically Luigi's girlfriend in the games. I mean, I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: think she's like the bee. I don't think anyone's canonically.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Peach kind of is canonic. There's
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: like weird canonical stuff with the girlfriends, where like Bowser
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Junior is maybe Peach's baby. There's like I think it's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: in Mario Sunshine. There's like a cut scene where Bowser
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: it was like she got kidnapped by Bowser, and then
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: later Bowser Junior sees Peach and he's like Mommy, She's
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: like whoa. But anyway, it's all to say, I don't
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: know how much of the canonical relationships that there is,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: but I do think Daisy is the Luigi to Mario's Peach. Sure,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: So the premise of Games and this movie is like
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: we have to save the princess who has been kidnapped
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: and damseled, and then also like we have to save
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: Daniella and the other women from Brooklyn who had been kidnapped.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: So the main like again narrative thrust of the movie
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: is like he's trying to bring narrative thrust back, and
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: it's the inciting incident is like Daisy getting kidnapped and
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: Mario and Luigi having to like go into the alternate
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: dimension to save her, and most of the movie is
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: them trying to save her, which so it's a very
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: like damsel and distress narrative. And I do think that
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: there probably was a way to like remain I don't know,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: like I there's so many elements of this movie that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: are in no way faithful to the Mario franchise that
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: am like, well why is that? I mean, like that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: element they keep pretty intact, although they again like they
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: did more with it than I thought they would, but
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: it is still like she's trapped in a tower for
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of it. Daniella, poor Daniella, is kidnapped, and
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: you think that's the inciting incident, but it's not because
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: Mario doesn't even know what happens until the end of
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: the movie. He has no idea. I also think there's
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: ways to kidnap a character, specifically a woman, but not
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: completely damsel her. So if they want to remain like
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: faithful to the source material of like the Princess gets kidnapped,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: she can still be far more active in the story,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: and she can do things to save herself and make
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: active choices that don't just completely leave her as a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: like a helpless damsel right. They also had like the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: whole necklace plot too, so there could have definitely been
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: a world too where like she saves herself, where like
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: she can steal the neck for herself and then they
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: can help break her out or something where it's like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: she you know, because there are two things they need saving, right,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: aren't just like the girl? And then you know it's
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: also the necklace too. Yeah, that's a kind of another
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: missed opportunity where she's supposed to have this like vague
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: special ability to merge the world that maybe she could
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: have like made some use of to get herself out
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: of the tower. Like if she's able to merge dimensions,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: why she's stuck in the tower? Right seems a little Yeah,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Like I definitely think that there's things that could and
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: should have been done different. And it's also like it
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: wasn't like she wasn't set up with a lot of abilities.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: I was surprised that her like paleontology skills didn't come
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: back more meaningfully either, other than like she's like uniquely
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: able to like connect with Yoshi. I think it's implied
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: because she like understands dinosaurs, but like outside of that,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: it's like you're in Dino World, you should be like
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: uniquely useful here, but they but they don't really use
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: that for a big chunk the movie. That's why Drassic
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Park works so well. The people who were in the
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: park are dinosaur experts. Even the kids can't. He read
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: a book about dinosaurs, so he knows what's what. So yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: I think that there there were And again it's just
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know this movie was written fifty times,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: and it seems like there were. I would guess that
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: there's versions of this where she was more active in
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: the second act, and that is just like not the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: version we saw, which is a bummer because I really
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: liked how they set up her character to the point
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: where I didn't like feel like the romance subplot was
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: like taking up too much air. It felt earned. But
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: then she just disappears for a big chunk, and poor Daniella, yes,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: is even worse off. Even though I think Daniella, I
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: think it would have been really easy to write her reductively,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: and I feel like I've seen like Lady from Brooklyn,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: characters written off very reductively, but she's seen like I mean,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: she has written to be like I think she works
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: at a Tanning salon is what we're told and when
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: she and I liked that she and Daisy were both
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: really different, but they like got along fine. They like
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: seemed to you know, Like I liked what Danielle was
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: like to set up the fact that she's wearing a meteorite,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: says like, oh, you should come to the Tanning salon.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: You'll have to take off that meteorite. Though. It's like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: a nice set up. But I like that it's like
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: she's like a working class person as well, but like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: she's not made fun of or like made out to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: seem like a bimbo or anything like that. And none
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: of the women from Brooklyn are really I mean, they're
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: like maybe a little cartoonish, you could argue, and they
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: all are damseled. I like that they were friends with
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: each other though they didn't start like fighting in the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: prison or anything. And even the one who's like, well,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: she's from Queens and they like kind of rib her,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: but it's like all in good fun. I thought that
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: was very charming, but we like her though. Yeah, And
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I also like that they somehow guts to keep cigarettes
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: for the entire it was so funny. They keep each
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: other warm, when they freeze the pipes. Yeah, Daisy is
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: happy to see Daniella, even though they're like being held
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: hostage together. It's like, oh, these women like each other.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: They get along. It's sweet, like and again it's like,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: could there be more done? Yes? Do I think that
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Mario needed to show up to save them? No, it
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: seems like they probably could have broken out. I think
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been bumped by them like a bunch
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: of like brassy women from Brooklyn escaping Lizard Jail, Like
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: that would fucking rule. I would love to see that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: there's only one goomba there that they have to they
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: would have to have dealt with He's out numbered, right,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, I think that they probably that
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: would have been a cool moment for Daniella to kind
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of like Unsinkable Molly Brown the situation and be like,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: let's get the fuck out of here. Because the second
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Mario shows up, they are immediately like active in their
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: own escape and they're just like, well, maybe like he
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: didn't even need to be there. That would have been
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: a fun fun scene to have. But I did like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: that they were like, I mean, they like battering rammed
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: their way out of there. And then went down the
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: weird snow tunnel. I don't know. Again, I'm like points
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: for effort more than I expected, but it was there
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: were a lot of cool ways that could have gone
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: for sure. The other big thing that I thought was
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: pretty tropy as far as the portrayal of different female
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: characters was with Lena, and I appreciate that there's like
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: a female villain in the mix, but her thing becomes
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: that she gets jealous of Daisy because Daisy shows up
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: in the dimension, Coopa starts paying a lot of attention
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: to Daisy. He's also like, have you ever been kished
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: by a dinosaur? And then his face turns into a
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: lizard for a second, he tries to kiss her. Oh
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: my god. He's like, little girls never forget their first
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: time a lizard kisses them. What is this dialog? So weird?
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: But so he's like in the gross, like villainy way,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: but he's like enamored with Daisy, and Lena is like Jafari,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, Jafar esque, And because she's like in love
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: with Coopa question mark, she gets really jealous of all
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the attention that Kopa is paying to Daisy, so she
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: decides to like strike out on her own. She goes
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: and is able to get the necklace. She loses it
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: but then gets it back in the third act, and
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: then she tries to put it in the meteorite, she
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: gets fried and becomes a skeleton. So it does kind
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: of seem like a yeah, like she there were sequences
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: where she was clearly jealous that, but again, it was
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: like it always felt like that character was a kind
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: of weirdly written and Fianaa Shaw makes it work because
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: she's herself, but like, it felt like there were always
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: two things going on with her at the same time.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: It sometimes got confusing where it was like she was
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: in love with Kopa but also she like craved Koopa's power,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it could have worked. It would
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: have been easier for me if she just like wanted
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: power and that would make most of her stuff make
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: more sense, or like, I don't know, the being in
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: love with Kopa and jealous of Daisy stuff just like
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: didn't quite track for me. I felt like it was
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: just it makes more sense if she's just like completely
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: driven by a need for power and ambition, because the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: way her story ends does feel like a killed by
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: ambition kind of trophy like thing because at the end
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: she's like, no one's gonna help me. I'm gonna emerge
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: the world. And there's whatever we could talk about movies
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: where women are killed by their own ambition another day,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: because this is like not the beat. I mean, that's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: like some fatal attraction shit, right, But like Lena can't
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: have it all, but she's she basically wants to be
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: like the queen of fascism and it kills her, and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: that is a more like clean effective storyline than like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: and also I want Dennis Hopper to give me a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: little kiss or like, right, and I'm gonna be jealous,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: I'm at any other woman in the room, when realistically,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: if she's just driven by power, she would like having
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: Daisy on her side is incredibly useful. Like if she
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: has Daisy as an ally and shows Daisy kindness while
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: she's being held prisoner, then that gives her a leg
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: up over Koopa and the story could kind of play
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: out a little differently, right, But whatever I thought, Fianna
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: shot did a great job. And in terms of villainous outfits,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I left satisfied her outfits, her makeup, her hair, blue dress, everything.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: When she got electrocuted her hair when all while that
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: was fun. Oh yeah, it's like Glen Close, Corrella de Ville,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: It's great. I loved Kopa's hair, the like bleached like yeah,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: we can't really do corn rows, but we'll do like
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, there's like there's a dinosaur
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: that has a head like that. I'll take your word
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: for it. Was like if they're they're they were going
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, it's like a ridged cranial thing and
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: they're like, let's do that with his hair. So I think,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: like a like all of the women we've discussed so far, Lena,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: they could have done better, but they did better than
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: I thought I expected for nineteen ninety three. Yes, yeah.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: The last thing I wanted to say about Daisy is
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: I did like that Yo, she brought her a gun.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: That was cool and I loved that. Why did they
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: always it was like the way you worked the TV
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: was like you held a gun to it. Like there's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: at one point looking Koopa was like ordering a pizza,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: but he was holding a gun at this like video
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: call and it felt like he was like robbing someone
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: through a video call, and I was like, what is
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: happening here? No idea, And then there's that iconic Kopa
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: line at the end of the movie where they're like
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: zip zab zopping between the two dimensions. You're like, what
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? But then at one point
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Dennis Hoppers like, give me that evil gun starts shooting Mario.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: You're like, what is happening? Um? I loved that line.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: I hope it was improvised when Dennis Hopper was drunk
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: at work. Give me that. I also, can we talk
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: about Mario and Luigi's like special handshake which just seems
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: to be a high five or they intertwined their fingers
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: and kind of like wiggle it around very half past Yeah,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I was, I was even remember this. It had a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: weird handshake where they It was bizarre but mostly pretty subtle.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: I honestly assumed that that was a game thing, because
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's weird. I guess that that looks
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: better in cartoon form than in real life. That's bizarre. Yeah,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: I assumed that was like a holdover from the game
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: that I just didn't remember. I don't think. So. There
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: is a moment where you do find out that Mario
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: that Mario and Luigi aren't like biological brothers that like
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: that Mario took daddy yeah, and then Luigi's like yeah,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: Mario was like my mom and Mario was like no,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: he said, okay, fine, you were like my dad, and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: it's like they're too just and my uncle and everything else.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: You're like, yeah you guys. Um, there was like yeah,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: there's a few very nineties like the one like nineties
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: no homo joke I picked up on was when Luigi
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't hang out at flower shops and
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: You're like, what is this? Oh? I really missed that.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: It's just like so I was like, wow, people really
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: could not relax at this time, like I don't hang
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: out at flower shops or nothing. I'm like, relax, Luigi,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: hang out at flower shops. I bet you'd like it. Yeah,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: they're nice, they smell good. Yeah, i'mlike toilets, which is
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: where you hang out most of the time. Flowers are
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Mario cannon because of the like the Piranha flower. It's true, yes,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: the fireflower, and yes, do we talk about big birth
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I really quick? Yes, Um, I love her. I love
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: her too. I didn't realize that she was based on
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: a Mario character. Can someone explain that to me was
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: she Yes, I think that she's like styled after a
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: fish character. Wait, let's yes, they like jump out of
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: the water. Yeah, yes, I know this fish. I mean,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: but if I didn't look that up, I would not
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: have known that, I think, And it really seemed mainly
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: seems like her dress is inspired by that, and then
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: there's kind of little else. But I did want to
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: say that she's styled after a big fish. I see.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And you can make of that what you what you will,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: but that's what I learned. I love her character though
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: she's like the most um. She and the the nameless
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: older woman who gets thrown off of a bridge by
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: her and are the most like actiony, like big Bertha.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: It's so weird because I think Bertha gets like the
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: widest range of things to do of any woman in
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: the script, possibly because she has big action sequence. She
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: like steals the thingy that everyone needs. She gets like
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: a rome essensual romance scene. She like assists the heroes
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: and like it's a small part and she doesn't speak
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: a lot, which kind of especially sucks, as I think
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: the only black woman with a meaningful part in the movie. Yeah,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: but with I mean with the time she has on screen,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: it's like she's got range. There's a lot going on
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: with her. I loved her, she's doing her outfit. I
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: wasn't quite sure why after she realizes that Mario stole
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: the necklace back that she was completely fine with it.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: But I also don't know why she stole the necklace
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: in the first place. So you know, I kind of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: figured that was like a rules of the town. Everyone's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: sealing for everyone, So it was kind of a respecting
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, you stole for me. That's sort of
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: the vibe I got from it. Game recognizes game, Yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: and I like, we said I love that when so
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: Mario tries to like seduce her at first in like
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: a more traditional like hey babe, how you do in
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: kind of thing, and then she responds by punching him
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: in the face. He goes, oh, wow, maybe she's shy.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: So then he goes back up to her and he's like,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: I've loved it when you punched me in the face,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Please do it again. And then she's like, let's dance. Dance.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: It's like one of the best scenes in the movie.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: And then yeah, after that, she's their ally like she
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: helps them escape, she gives them flying boots question Mark,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: and then she shows up again at the end during
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: the climax and does something to help also, but I forget.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Does anyone remember what she does? I forget, but she
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: shows up. Maybe she doesn't even do anything, but she's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: just like whoo, and you know, not everything she doesn't
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: make sense necessarily, but I love that she's there. I
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: also appreciate it's not unique in this movie. A lot
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: of people are doing shit that makes no sense, right.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I also love that she wasn't like, Okay, well I
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: danced with Mario, so now he's my boyfriend forever. She's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: just like, yeah, we just had this nice moment and
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: now we're buds. Yeah. That shot of her when she
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: realizes he stole the necklace and it pulls out and
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: she's like, where did he get us? Kind of broke
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: my heart, I'll be honest. But she bounced back pretty quick. Yeah,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: and she's a bouncer, so she was a bouncer. I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: get him. I really loved her. I would watch a
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: hole spin off about that movie. I was also thinking
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: I would love to see John Leguizamo reprise his role
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: of Luigi in a live action Luigi's mansion. It would
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: be so good. Yeah, haunted house, he'd be so good.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: I got the pipes in a haunted house, it would
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: be so good. Another thing I learned from scholarly journal
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Wikipedia is that so John logiz Almo like once he
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: was cast as Louis, he made a joke to the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: effect that he's like, oh, you know, you see a
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: lot of Italians playing Latin people in movies, like how
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: al Pacino did in Scarface. Now it's our turn because
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: he's a Latin actor playing an Italian. Wow. So he
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: rocks so much. He really is the best. I wanted
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: to I think that's everything I have, which is good
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: because I know we're running short on time. I just
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: wanted to shout out the two lines in this movie
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: that reminded me of other things. Yes, like a genius
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: would so there was. There is the line where Luigi
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: says I'm flying Mario, and like, can someone edit that
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: into the scene from Titanic? I would never stop laughing.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: If Kate Winslet's mouth opens and John Legozama's Luigi voice
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: comes out, I would just never stop laughing. The other line,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: this is a deep cut, This is did anyone else
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: pick up on like the Twilight sounding moment in this movie? What? Oh,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: there's okay? So when Yoshi first comes in and Daisy's like,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: what is this? And then Kofa's like, go ahead and
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: say it, and then she says dinosaur just like I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: was like, and then you're just like, climb on spider Monkey. Yes,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I was really sent to another time in
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: that moment. Uh So yeah, if anyone's in the mood
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: to edit that first, get on that right now. I
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: think in that one, I would want the Twilight voices
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: edited into Super Mario. That's the funnier. But I'm open
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: to options. Um, and those are my last scholarly about
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: this movie. Yeah, that was all I had. Have you,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: was there anything else you wanted to touch on? No?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so fun. I really found it.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: Every choice I thought was inspired. I had a much
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: better time than I was expecting, because I don't always
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: love like, oh it's so bad, it's good. I'm like,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: let's just watch something that's good then. But I thought
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: this was legitimately like pretty fun, a lot of fun choices.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: I think, if you're going to reimagine Mario in a
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: live action setting. I think this is the way to
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: do it well. I would love for this style of
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: like big swing adaptation to come back. Things are getting
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: so stale, so boring, even when they're good, I forget
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: about it immediately. Yeah, give me John Lake Wisama's Luigi's
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Mansion directed by an absolute freak that would make me
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: like Juliet Ducardo's Luigi's Mansion. Like. Okay, okay, we can
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: workshop ideas, but in any case, does this movie pass
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: the Bechdel test? I believe it does. Does. Between Daisy
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: and to Daisy and Daniellow, they do pass. Yeah, when
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: they talk about the tannings on and that's a very
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: important line of dialogue sets up the necklace, and Daisy
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: and Lena I believe, are talking about power and legacy
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: nine stuff like that. And then possibly I don't know
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: if we I don't remember if we get names for
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: the Brooklyn gals, But if we do, then there's a
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: few exchanges with them that pass us well. True, but yeah,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: I mean again, it's not a lot, but it's more
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: than I expected, which brings us to the one true metric,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: the Nipple scale, where we rate the movie on the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: scale of zero to five nipples based on examining it
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: through an intersectional feminist lens. Um. Here's the thing. There's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of tropes at play in this movie, namely
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: that several women are kidnapped and damseled and don't really
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: do anything to save themselves. And then you have the
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: female villain being very jealous of another woman in a
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: way that feels like I'm a male writer and I
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: don't know how women interact except to be jealous of
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: each other, so I'm going to write that. So those
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: things felt very trophy, but it was doing better than
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: I thought it would for a movie that's based on
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: a property that completely hinges on a man having to
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: save a woman. It's like Mario's whole thing as he
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: has to defeat the villains to save Peach. So while
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: that is also basically present in the movie, I was like, Oh,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: at least there's like other female characters that I wasn't
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: expecting to be there. They're not doing that much, or
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: at least not Daisy. Bertha does a fair amount of
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: things that affect the plot, as does Lena. Danielle is
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: not as much, but watch the spinoff whatever, right, right?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: So I would give this two nipples. Still not doing great,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: but hey, hey better than I thought. Right amount nipples?
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: If you ask me good number nipples, I will give
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: one to Bertha. I will give one two Yoshi. He's
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: an feminist icon. Yes, I it is April Fools Week
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: on the Bechdel Cast, and so yeah, because I had
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: such a killer time watching this movie. I think we've
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: appropriately kind of deconstructed the reasons that you know it
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: works or doesn't and for for our purposes. But I'm
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: giving it five nipples because I had a hello of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: the time and it's the first week in April, and
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: fuck you, I loved it. I thought it was great.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: And they really shouldn't have poured hot coffee on that
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: guy that was fucked up. So maybe I'll dock a
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: half nipple because for the hot coffee incident that was bad.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: So four and a half nipples because I had fun
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: and that's hard. Um, So four and a half nipples,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm giving them. I'm gonna give them. I'm gonna
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: give them all for Danny to Danny DeVito for not
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: doing this movie. I think that was a pretty powerful
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Abby, what do you say? I would say
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: you know more coming at it. I think also of
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: its time, it's better than I expected as far as
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: women speaking, just kind of in general. So I would
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: give it a solid four nipples. Wow, Probably I had fun.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of Jamie. Of Jamie's attitude of like I
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: had a good time. I think of the air it
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: came out in, you know, could have been worse. And
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give those four nipples to my cat
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: because I don't think he has enough. Yes, and now
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: he has twelve nipples because cats famously have eight nipples
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: and that's cat facts. With Caitlin, you got to carry
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: around some spars like like tires. Abbie, thank you so
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: much for joining us. What a blast this has been. Yeah,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: thank you for having me. This is a ton of fun.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: And I really liked this movie quite a bit. It rocks.
• 1:31:57
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• 1:32:00
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