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• Jimmmmmmmy: All right everybody. Ahab: Mm-hmm. FiFi: This light's really bright. Jimmmmmmmy: This has been a fantastic weekend. It's Monday morning. We've got a couple of the dudes with us and we're gonna talk Operation Wags the first seventy two hours. If you weren't there, get ready. Next weekend it's it's gonna be even better. It's gonna be gooder. FiFi: What what happened? Ahab: Yeah. FiFi: I it this weekend seemed like looking back on it, this weekend seems like it's it like went by really quickly, but in the moment it felt like it was taking ten years. Like Jimmmmmmmy: my gosh. Ahab: I did. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, the setting up jets was like the longest thing I did this weekend. I was like, my gosh, trying to get everything set up like FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: while taxiing to depart. FiFi: Well let's Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: let's just get into it. I know so w joining us is the legendary Ahab. And then we got Harper, a new addition to the Hooligan crew from Downunda. And then and then we got we got John Blair. Everybody, if you've if you ever watched DCS news, you know who this guy is. so we'll go through and do like a I mean Ahab's been out with us before. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I just I just realized Harper Sign Harper Signs says Operation Wags. Ahab: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah. So Harper: That's my stream background. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: So these these guys are some of the crew that's been flying Red Four and SCUD-o: That's it. FiFi: John's the John is an awesome has been was an awesome addition Ahab: Mm possible. FiFi: to the admin team because he made all of the stuff for it. And if you guys haven't Jimmmmmmmy: Big time. Ahab: Nee, dat holding. FiFi: watched their him and the packs ex episode on on it, you guys definitely should go watch that. you guys did that last week, the end of last week. I can't remember off the top of my head. But I watched it, I don't know. I w I was like, ooh, ooh, they're live. So Ahab: So FiFi: but yeah, let's just get into it and talk about it. So this was kind of a wild event to a start. I mean, we had a lot of we had a lot of really crazy things that just kind of popped off at the beginning. one, we weren't we knew it was gonna be kind of cool and we didn't we we set Ahab: Yeah. FiFi: a low expectation of ourselves in the sense of like we didn't think a lot of people were gonna join. And then the server exploded, basically. what was it, like four hundred Ahab: It was a look at the happen. Nothing. FiFi: Four hundred connections a second that people were trying, like Jimmmmmmmy: Think I think in the first like five minutes, you guys would have to check me, but I I think that our initial number for people trying to join after it was full was like two fifty one. Like unique unique players was two fifty one, I believe, if I remember correctly. I can remember what special case of item it was yeah, it was massive. SCUD-o: 350 connections per second. FiFi: Yeah. And then like I think the other number that I s the I think the other number I saw was like almost a quarter of the of the DCS player base that was online for multiplayer was trying to log in to the server. So Ahab: Okay. FiFi: that was pretty wild to watch. but yeah, and then once we once started kicking off, it just turned into an absolute just meat grinder of of a of a fight. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: A riot. Yeah. John, could you give us kind of like set the stage for you know, for anybody who didn't fly it or didn't catch any of the streams, could you set the stage for kind of like what the mission was and kind of how it was executed on, you know, both sides and how the varying numbers like were associated with the two coalitions? Jonbloor: Yeah, so basically, I mean I I'll say one thing. I I couldn't even get on the first night. Like I just gave up. Like and I'm there was people going, I I can't get on. And I was like, I'm I'm in the team and I can't get on. I just had to just let SCUD-o: Right. Jonbloor: it let it play out and just let it happen. But but yeah, it was it was it was wild. I just remember so Blue Four were kind of how Indy and and H Heartbreak have set it up is it's on the Caucasian map and they're kind of southeasterly, aren't they? They're kind of moving up and you got the that that mountain range. And we're obviously at the top and to the to the west. And so you got the two phase lines and we were just trying to like hold the hold them back. And it was it was so funny to see feedback from Blue For being like, We we we can't seem to get anywhere. And we were like, We're barely holding on. Like like hold the line, hold the line And like FiFi: Wait. Jonbloor: and it was just chaos. And I tell you what, I think And I gotta say this early on, the GCI work was absolutely like off the chain, off the chain, and really clear calls. They were rotating through everyone. At one point, the in in the was it we what do we call it? The Mozdoc, the Mozdoc meat grinder, as it was. and which is definitely my new Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD-o: Yup. That was an experience. Ahab: Nope. Harper: Yeah. Jonbloor: grinder username. which was FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Ha ha ha. Jonbloor: I'll catch some guys on that. but yeah, we were at one point. I can't remember who was on DCI, but we had a red four, we had like a stacked cap. So we had guys down low in like Hornets and Vipers who were kind of doing ropa dope and bringing people in and getting in dog fights. And you had people in the middle kind of doing bits and pieces, and they were like whoever it was. And then they were getting like eagles and tomcats up high, like slinging long range. And it was it was just beautiful to see because once we got that set up. It was like a wall of death and and they kept throwing themselves at us. But it it it even though even though we were doing all right, we're like we just know this is gonna fall apart any second. We just knew it. All it was gonna take. But yeah, it was it was it was really good laugh. it was. You guys were SCUD-o: GCI was so much fun. Jimmmmmmmy: And so Jonbloor: doing amazing. Jimmmmmmmy: we so we we've cherished our ability to hold back blue. And that's because at one point, it it's this has been an event executed with less than three full weeks of planning. We did right, was it three yeah, three full weeks of planning. we hosted three two closed test sessions, one public test session, and We didn't know what to expect. And I think the community absolutely blew away every expectation that we had for the community because at one point the servers were saturated with blue and it was like fifty on ten. And so when John is celebrating like the Mazdoc meat grinder, like that was a moment of success for us because we were actually able to get off the ground. We had, you know, an actual stack of you know, kind of rotating cap. And that took us thirty six hours to get to a point to where we could feel like we were accomplishing something other than just not getting ran over. FiFi: The fact that everybody was like sleeping and fighting and flying and GCIing in shifts to where like I kept I kept screenshotting and taking like and posting pictures of it, but like of everybody like you see the the timer on the Discord and it's like fifty-seven hours. SCUD-o: We hit 60 on my line one, it was great. Jonbloor: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: And people were like changing the Discord names to be like napping real quick, be back in two hours. Like it's that was crazy. Crazy work to Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: watch. I honestly thought that, like I said this last night in our little debrief at the end, I was like, I honestly thought getting a bunch of content creators together was just gonna be like a nightmare of trying to manage egos and and personalities and stuff like that. But I gotta show I gotta I gotta give it to everybody who showed up and flew. Like everybody was like, All right, let's get this done. Let's let's see what we can do together. And there has not been a single except for except for one meltdown at the very beginning about trying to get into the servers. Harper: Yeah. FiFi: there hasn't been there hasn't been there hasn't there was not a single like argument or fight amongst the content creators about anything. Like about so that was really cool to watch. But I just wanted to I just wanna interject that. Jimmmmmmmy: So while you guys were not flying, did you guys ever tune in on Twitch and watch like somebody on Blue Four? FiFi: No, I haven't. Wait, Ahab, you did? Trying to get trying to get Intel? Ahab: I did occasionally, yeah. They're there 'cause as we were as the event was building, as as we were getting more and more creators in the in our in our Discord, I was friending them and they were friending me and we and I've just started going through everybody's channels and every and follow, follow, follow, follow. Kind of hoping people would do SCUD-o: credit. Ahab: the same because I'm really low. so yeah, I'm going through and when I see when I see FiFi: Fair. Go go check out A Habs Twitch. Ahab: them going on, I'm like, shoot, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna get on there and watch and support, get on there, get on their chat, say hey, what's up? So yeah, I I caught a few from Aviancer, from what I got I got one or two from Grey Wolf. I got I got a few. I got I g jumped into a few while I was out. When I wasn't able to SCUD-o: I checked into a lot. Ahab: come downstairs and get in. Jimmmmmmmy: I was talking like blue for because SCUD-o: I can do. Jimmmmmmmy: like so like when I was like trying to fall asleep and Ahab: blue. Jimmmmmmmy: take like take my nap, like I'd bring up Twitch and I was just scrolling looking for like operation wags, blue for, and I was like, let's pop in, say hi. And I was watching those guys and they were doing the same thing that we were, just with like numbers. It was awesome. It was cool because on both sides of the mountain range, you know, people were coming together and they were working together for like a common task. Like there were not like single outliers. And I think that's like the biggest rock that I took away from the weekend was the community just wants to have fun together. FiFi: Twitch Twitch exploded. Like you open up Twitch and just search Jonbloor: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: my gosh. FiFi: DCS. Like there was there was hundreds of streams of it felt like of people flying it. And then, you know Jimmmmmmmy: I think like an average an average Twitch stream for DCS content is probably like maybe five people live with like a hundred to two hundred viewers. And at one point there was like thirty streams and I think like seven hundred viewers. Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: that's huge. But and there was and there was a lot of really cool, like crazy moments in there like when we were able to like log in and get in into the into Jimmmmmmmy: Mm-hmm. FiFi: the servers and stuff like that. Like you know like between like Big Nui and Nine Line like ramming their Yak fifty two and helicopters into people and Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: you know guys like hiding in in BMPs at the end of the runways and sniping people with with stuff. Harper trying to escort me as I just flew myself into the side of a mountain in a C130 trying to get through places. Like Jonbloor: Mm-hmm. Harper: Yeah, I wasn't much of an escort anyway. Jimmmmmmmy: Ha ha. FiFi: people lobbing dude, the freaking Phoenixes. Holy crap. Like when when when when Ahab: Yeah. FiFi: they would loft them and you would not get an RWR warning 'cause it's coming in straight on top of your your aircraft. Like SCUD-o: Yeah. FiFi: that was that was crazy. But so let's talk about the fight. Let's talk about the fight itself. So it started off and Red's Red's whole strategy was just like, let's see how bad or how much we can like stem the bleeding and the flow and keep them from from gaining too much too much ground. And then we and they started making some really good advancements in in areas that we were expecting, right? Like they pushed up the west coast towards Sochi, you know, and that fight because of the carrier being over there and then Like you don't have to fight in the mountains or Ahab: Thank you. FiFi: over the mountains and stuff like that 'cause everybody was like, Well, guerrilla warfare in the mountains, we don't feel like dealing that with jets. what did you guys see? Jimmmmmmmy: Well they FiFi: 'Cause like I I was flying logistics the entire time, so I didn't really see a lot of fighting. But I'll leave this up to the combat pilots. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: the the mountains were in no fly zone too 'cause Habs was just frying everything that came through the mountains. SCUD-o: you FiFi: Yeah. Jonbloor: Yeah, I mean I I jumped in a few times. I tried to Ahab: Thank you. Jonbloor: jump in a Harrier and like a car fifty and an Apache and tried to do some air to ground. I like, right, I'm gonna see if I can kind of poke back, see if I can punch him back. And ever every time, even though I was flying like fifty feet off the ground. Now I don't know, maybe people were stream sniping. I don't know. It's difficult to tell. Now how do you prove this stuff? But like at the very least, I would probably get Like two and a half, three minutes, and all of a sudden F-16 up on my RWR, and then it would move closer on the RWR. And then I start getting screaming. And I was like, and I I after a while, I was just like, okay, I'm just gonna switch the F-15C. I know it well. I SCUD-o: you Jonbloor: I the radar is is baller. I'm just gonna start slinging AMRAMs back at you. But yeah, it was it was pretty quick when I realized, yeah, this isn't happening. We just gotta hold them, hold them back. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, for for SCUD-o: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: rotor for rotor wing, my personal goal was just to spawn, load crates, get eight miles out, drop the crates and build them. If I could do that, like, yo, mission success. Jonbloor: Yeah. Harper: Well, I thought being on the red side, you know, I thought at the start I was I'm gonna go, hmm MiG twenty one, MiG twenty nine. I thought, you know, it's fitting to be on the red side. And this is why I praise the GCIs so much, is because being in a MiG twenty nine, you've got no data link, no nothing. So I basically got them just to walk me onto targets. I'd be going along the trees, in the in the mountains, in the valleys, and then I'd get to take me right underneath with R twenty seven E Ts and then just I would zoom straight up and you know, sometimes they'd be formed up on our AWACS and you could see the contrast. SCUD-o: Yeah. Harper: And I'm like, I tell tally band it and then just full burner, Ahab: Mm-hmm. Harper: straight up with an E T and they don't know it's coming 'cause it's got it's an IRC card. So that's what I was doing basically the whole time. And the MiG twenty one got a couple got got a couple of kills Jimmmmmmmy: I know dude. Harper: in the MiG twenty one. SCUD-o: That's why I wasn't saying. Jimmmmmmmy: Wild man, dude. I was watch I'm so I'm sitting there on the ground at I think it was Anapa and I see a MiG-21 going and was like, who is flying that museum piece? And then you know, I go to the map and of course it's it's Harper and I like, I can hear your voice from like your stream saying, this just just this jet is just beautiful. Jonbloor: Yeah. Harper: It is. It's it's one of the one of the great modules we have and FiFi: Yeah. Harper: to get to be in like a modern fight with that and to get a kill. Even if even a normal like early Vietnam Cold War scenario, every fight is uphill in that thing. So when you do shoot someone down in that, we're like, Yeah, yeah. And you can Jonbloor: Yeah. Harper: see in the YouTube short, on the Hooligans channel, Ahab: Yeah. Harper: you'll be able to see there's a short of me flying the MiG twenty nine. me twenty one and getting a kill in it. And you see my excitement I'm sitting there going like this. Jonbloor: Ha ha ha. Jimmmmmmmy: You're like, I need to run home now and claim this, like Harper: Yeah. SCUD-o: Yeah. Harper: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: my gosh. Ahab, what what's your FiFi: man. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: take on on the first little bit of opening onslaught for your first experiences? Ahab: I I went in thinking I was gonna do kind of the same thing as Harper. I was trying to go in in the full Fidelity Fulcrum because my whole idea was to IRST, be sneaky, you know, and same thing, ETs and and seventy threes when they get close enough. And I kept w one problem I had was I kept forgetting that I mapped the the A to s the volume to a slider that is normally all the way off. So I didn't get missile warnings a lot. That worked against me. And I didn't I I had meant to do more practice with the IRS T so I could acquire targets and stuff. And that that that fell through too. So I was just kinda going through I was like, well this is this'll be alright 'cause I mean it's not it's not about me getting kills. It's about, you know, having a g it g s setting up a good time for Blue Force for the public. And trying to trying to be a good target, which I was for a while. And then I got tired of it being very one sided and I'd switch into something with Fox Three capability and yeah, send to some Phoenixes. I switched gears a few times and I and w it was on the third day that I went that I saw everything was happening. The Mozdoc meat grinder had started and I was like, Ooh, dog, it's time to go over there. And I was like, I need I see they're already overhead, so you know what I need to switch into? Something something that's you know, high alpha, no pun intended, that's that maneuvers that has high off more sight, I hopped in a flanker and I started wrecking stuff. with G CI support. W without the G CI I would have been lost, but switched into that and I just yeah, helped drive back slowly. FiFi: Yeah, we need we Jimmmmmmmy: Dude. FiFi: need to we need to get into the GCI thing because like dude our G CI just absolutely like it like Scuddo SCUD-o: Our team was great. Yeah. We had. Ahab: They made they made it for us. FiFi: here Scuddo here was sitting in the G CI booth all weekend. Just Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: you you're gonna have to SCUD-o: I logged 0.03 hours on the server for the record. The rest was on the FiFi: Yeah, zero one's your dream. Ahab: Yeah. SCUD-o: radar scope. Jimmmmmmmy: So Scud Scuddo, from your sprips FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: perspective with the GCI, like how was the opening of the campaign? SCUD-o: The campaign opening, we still had full GCI snapping. Indy, massive thank you to him for fixing our scopes. was completely borked, the first opening part. So everything was like really bad refresh rate as well. We were giving like predictive calls. So when we saw somebody like 10 to 15 miles away-ish, we would say merged. Because we knew the next time the radar scope would update, they'd be merged. Ahab: So have a move. Sounds like a move. SCUD-o: But we got everything done and there was tons of like blue for traffic on the initial to like opening, right? Cause everybody wanted to get to the server. And then when we got RedFloor back up, we started pushing and that's when we were able to get proper tactics and coordination. I don't know if you pilots noticed it, but what we were doing was we were getting people taking off. If I was working at ATC, I was staggering departures intentionally. I was holding people saying, okay, here's a wave, let's go. I because I didn't want lawyer time to be too long than half to RTB if I was on AIC or GCI We were building up pretty much walls to attack and that's where we really got our strength Compared to the player disadvantage because we had ten less people but we played the tactics game and eventually evened it out Jonbloor: Yeah. I I Jimmmmmmmy: It was Jonbloor: think sorry, Karen. T. FiFi: Yeah, go go go go. Jimmmmmmmy: no. You go, Joe. Done. Jonbloor: Okay, cool. Yeah. so so I think we we spoke a little bit after all this. and we kind of we were like, Okay, what what kind of things can we learn? And and people have been coming up with suggestions and and we were like, Okay, we maybe we try this and maybe try that. And obviously there was also people from blue blue four saying, you know, Ahab: Yeah. Jonbloor: it's ri we're finding this really hard or we we're hitting a wall, whatever. But I literally had I sort of sat back for a bit and thought about it and I I literally think the only reason that Redford didn't get stomped was the GCI. I think that was the the the the linchpin to it all and I think had had we not had these absolute mad lads that every so often we had to sort of do a little bit of a welfare check on them. I remember one time jumping on 282, I was like Indy, are you okay? And I heard I'm not okay and I was like okay he needs a break FiFi: Yeah. SCUD-o: Yeah, because I was in your chat. I was in your chat and said, give a new welfare check. Harper: Claro. Jonbloor: Yeah And I just had him go, Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, it's Jonbloor: I'm not okay. Jimmmmmmmy: I there was one time I was in there, he's like, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine. I was like, dude, you okay? He's like, Yeah, I'm just speaking into existence like Jonbloor: Yeah, but no, it it was I think it was the biggest thing of it. I think it really was. And I think if Blue 4 next weekend they wanna like give us a run for our money, I think it's get yourself some coordination and and and all that kind of stuff. I don't know how we can do the GCI stuff because of the tech issues, but at the very least, if you guys coordinate, then it's gonna be very hard, you know. Every time I thought I was worried. was when you get like six to eight F sixteens and eighteens all coming in in a wave. That was when they would just sort of line up a bit, you'd see that that that randomized like clump of them. And that's when I would worry. Dude, there was some dudes Jimmmmmmmy: Dude. Jonbloor: in in Mirage two thousands are absolutely destroying people with only Fox ones and twos. I was like, my God. Anyway. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, the Mirage is potent. We hosted a tournament about a year ago and we never th even considered the Mirage as being like the airframe, but the Mirage just wipes people in that in that environment. FiFi: Tell everybody the spicy baguette launcher is the best jet in the game. Like the suit Jonbloor: It's so good. Yeah. Harper: Well I think it's one of the Jimmmmmmmy: It yeah, it Ahab: I forget Harper: jet Ahab: who, but somebody had a video of just wild they turned hard and and got a gun kill with their mirage. That was nuts. FiFi: Yeah. Thirty millimeter cannons. The Super five thirties are like the fastest frickin' missile in in in the air. Like it's it's so cool. Like I love taking it on like intention or like any sort of like Cold War server where there's not where there's no active radar and it's only semi active radar missiles. So only Fox Ones and Fox Two's. And like one, like the the magics, the magics, the the IR missiles, they like a seven or eight nautical mile range on their own. So like you can actually reach out and poke people farther than you can with a With a sidewinder. And then the Super 530s, I'd love, I'm not I learned this one from Venom and Bullet for my enemy, those two guys who who showed up this weekend and they were hilariously awesome to fly with as well. But what you do is you go head to head if someone's shooting another if you're it's only works in Fox One duels, but you go head to head and you wait for someone else to shoot their Fox One at them at you, and then as soon as you get the indication, you you rip off that five thirty and then watch it reach them before theirs reaches you, and they immediately have to go defensive and And you could just sit there with impunity and just like, you know, be an absolute spicy baguette launcher and it's it's the best jet in the game. I love I love the Mirage F one. I'm so glad I kept that thing. Jonbloor: Yeah, it's it's Harper: I think it's one of the only jets that has the ability to I'm pretty sure. I mean but anyway, I'm th I'm pretty sure it's one of the only jets that you can j actively jam while locking a target and shoot. FiFi: It's selective. No, it's it's a selective jam, but it does have like a data link capability where like in the real world it was used where like AWACS can 'cause it's an interceptor, so the radar setup like that. So it's not really like a good like scan and like look radar, but you could you could it your radar is really good at remembering like the enemy's last known position and then also estimates where the enemy's gonna pop back up. So if you lose track of a contact, it'll immediately pick it back up. on its own for you and then and then like with proper GCI like in the real world the like a lot of times the operators wouldn't even work the radar themselves. Like the the their support and their AWACS and their ground intercept and stuff like that would actually push the targets to them and target everything for them and then all the operator in the seat had to do was just pull the trigger, which is really cool. So Jimmmmmmmy: Next week next weekend, Scuddo, I need you to aim for me. I'll just plink the jet where you tell me to. FiFi: Yep. SCUD-o: Just turn left and shoot the line Fox one like FiFi: That's what I felt like it was doing. So SCUD-o: I ran ATC the whole time, pretty much. had a couple sessions on the GCI scope, but hopefully we'll get a couple more Jimmmmmmmy: Let's talk SCUD-o: in. Jimmmmmmmy: so we talked intro. Now let's talk like the middle sixty hours. FiFi: Ha ha ha Yeah. Just yeah, I mean, so that's when it just turned into like I mean, not just turned into a sweat fest, but it was a sweat vest. Like I think that's when everybody started trying to figure out what exactly what they could do to to to contribute to the team. I think on blue side we saw a lot of blue still just going up and just wanting to like air quake it for to steal SCUD-o: Yeah. FiFi: the term from everybody else. And like what you'd see is like what you know, like what John and Jimmy said, like you just see like a conglomeration of just like a mud ball of of of blue jets like not coordinated. You could tell they weren't coordinated or anything like that. So all you had to kind of do was just like shoot one missile at them and they all scattered. And then you would just be able to kind of prosecute and and so that's how we were able to take them on like three on one. I of course I'm saying that because I'm getting all these secondhand stories 'cause I just flew hurt the entire time, which means I was just a target. But but yeah, and I think if like like everybody said, like if blue once once blue figures out to How how to coordinate and and push properly. Like they were taking bases from us. Like we were struggling, you know. Jimmmmmmmy: snatching. There we were, I don't know the exact statistic, but I think at the end of the weekend we only held like what was it 30% of the the map? Yeah. SCUD-o: 30 % on both servers, yeah. Jonbloor: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: And it's kind of it's I don't know if it was I I I don't know what the nexus is or the connection, but the pace of battle between server one and server two was so close to each other. And I I don't know if it's the design of the mission. I don't know if it's the terrain. I don't know if it's the flow of the battle. But it was like you could go to server one or server two and the contentious spots were the same on both maps. Which was Yeah. FiFi: Yeah, that was kind of crazy to see. Harper: I think a big thing for that sorry, Jimmy, you go. I was gonna say, Jimmmmmmmy: I'd be I'd be No you go. Nope. You first. Harper: I wanna commend everyone who is actually on red with the balancing the two servers. If one server started to, you know, was was getting overrun and there was like five red players against fifty blue, a lot of people would just immediately switch to the next server to help that one out. And I feel like that was a driving force for having them both balanced or at least around Jimmmmmmmy: Mm. Harper: the same sort of, you know. Same sort of fight. SCUD-o: I mean, let's not discount the efforts of blue either. I think they did a great job Jimmmmmmmy: dude. Harper: Mm. SCUD-o: and Yeah, Jonbloor: Mm. SCUD-o: we told you guys at the end of it but Merlin from the from CSG 3 he played a whole propaganda mission just to get it working so he and the guys brought a huge amount of Hornets and in 14s to attack Sochi we were trying to we're trying to liberate it and it went and we had like a PowerPoint presentation and everything and this was like, all right, we have code words. If things go right, this is the code word we'll tell you. It was really fun. And up in the booth, we were like, all right, you got it. And they got pretty badly hammered. Like for an organized group, they were getting cooked. So. Jimmmmmmmy: For a very high level group too. And CSG three is like they're pretty spicy. SCUD-o: So what we did is we played the propaganda mission of last minute we're going to go all the way down and we were going to take, was it? I think, was it Tsukumi or Kitaisi? One of them. Tsukumi, FiFi: Think it was Takumi. I think it was Takumi, yeah. SCUD-o: we completely just went around and meanwhile all of Blue Four is just going towards Sochi and we knew that they were going to catch on and then, okay, we're going back to Tsukumi now, we're going to run around. So we intentionally had one of the streamers who was doing GCI in our booth leak the slideshow. that gave like all the code words and all the original Jonbloor: Yeah. SCUD-o: plan to take, to take Sochi, right? And the whole plan was there and it was completely invalid now, but like we intentionally leaked it. So they all pushed Sochi by the time we had just cut back, taken Tsukumi and we were just pushed right back up. Jonbloor: Love it. I lo I love it. It reminds me is it is like World War Two, isn't it? They deliberately put like a a corpse and they put like fake documents for like Normandy. SCUD-o: Yeah. Jonbloor: It's like you're equivalent to doing that, you're like, Yeah, we left a dead body on on the on the shores of Sochi to let you know what we're actually doing. But Jimmmmmmmy: no. Jonbloor: we're not doing that, are we? Yeah. The my the FiFi: Ha ha Jonbloor: mind games are brilliant. I love it. Jimmmmmmmy: Counterintelligence. Jonbloor: Mm, love it. FiFi: Yeah. Yeah. That was that was fun. And then I think there was another one where they did where where CSG organized another one and they were gonna have like a a blue for like air armada run a distraction to where and this is all just goes back to coordination, like and like there was gonna be run of distraction to where blue was gonna react to that distraction and while CSG went around and yet again they ran into some super heavy interference and got just absolutely mud stomped. And but then the distraction actually ended up taking the base that they were like doing it a like a diversionary attack on. So accidental success, like just a whole lot of accidental success going on. Seems to be the theme of the of the weekend for for Red. Just a whole lot of accidental success. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. And and I wanna I wanna make sure we're we're clear on this. Like we are celebrating small victories on the red side because blue FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: absolutely ground us into the ground. FiFi: Yeah. Jonbloor: percent and and and the moment that they were getting really dangerous is when they were actually starting to attack the rip the airfields. So obviously they were the airfields Jimmmmmmmy: yeah. Jonbloor: were getting reset with the with the servers, but if you know to give to give away a a a free tactic for for blue for next next weekend it would be, you know, if you can start putting craters in these in these you know these runways, at the very least it makes you have to sort of work around them or figure out what you're gonna do or even crazy enough you know do some taxiway takeoffs if the worst comes to worst. But that's that's enough of an interference for us that's gonna cause problems. And the few times they did was when they were shutting us down. So yeah, if if there's a free tidbit I can give to Blue is that don't just aim at like you know get murder hornet loadouts and come and get us but actually if Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Jonbloor: you start striking our bases that's when we were sweating and we're like, my god, when's a restart? There's holes and I can't see them. Jimmmmmmmy: Well, dude, we were s we were FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: spawning on parking spots with craters and our planes are just blowing up because it they're falling like thirty Jonbloor: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: feet into the ground. FiFi: I got okay, so that makes sense because I got taken out by a slammer when I was taxiing around on the ground trying to drop off repair crates to the base that just got struck. And then like I exploded and I was like, what just happened? Everything exploded. And not until afterwards, like when we were all talking crap and kind of like the the blue four Discord on the on the Ego Dynamics Discord, like they were like, someone was like, dude, I totally got you with a slammer, and that was awesome. And I was like, is that what it was? So So yeah. Jonbloor: Amazing. Jimmmmmmmy: It was it was it was funny though 'cause like blue like definitely so we we adapted. Blue did the same because hu whom sent me in one time to go not gonna say location, but you know, he's like, I need you to load up with all the bombs and just snipe everything down there. I was like, I got you, dude. So I had eight and I'm just over there pounding them on the base and and then I would take a one two thousand pounder with me and just somewhere in a convergence of a taxiway and the runway, I'd just crater it and be like, get get good. You know, and then not even two hours later, we started getting the exact same treatment right back. And I was like, dang it, what goes around comes around. FiFi: Yeah, I would like Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: to see I would like to see more like kinetic ground strikes in the next in the next phase in the in like next weekend, this upcoming weekend. I would like to see Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. I FiFi: I would like to see like people cratering each other's bases and going after the warehouses. Like there's warehouses. Like you guys need to read the brief because there's warehouses where you can knock out everybody's weapons, all their fuel. And you know, next thing you know, you gotta fly in Hercs with with crates. To fix it all and stuff like that. Like you could really like you could really mess up the other team's day just by destroying the base. So hint hint. Jimmmmmmmy: That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah. On the in game, even if you're not even use even if you're not using SRS, even if you just use the in game chat dialogue, you know, you can coordinate some stuff through there. And I think a lesson on both sides, red and blue, is teamwork works, you know. And, you know, a coordinated, you know, multi level strike package, you know, in our experience of the first weekend, that's what pushed the most dirt. FiFi: Mm-hmm. Jimmmmmmmy: And not just throw your throw them at me. Although there was like the throw at is pretty cool 'cause like the sun is darted out by Phoenixes. You know, they're sending the phoeni FiFi: Yeah. No. Harper: Sometimes works. FiFi: Notable kill. Notable kill when Male got shot down by somebody in LA seven. When he got his streaky shut down. SCUD-o: If you were laughing so hard in the in the juicy outline Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: We watched the tag view back and like he was doing all sorts of fancy stuff to try to dodge his LA seven. I just see him just like throwing rounds into his jet. It was so good. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, the cannons on the LA seven are Ahab: I wish I could have seen that. Jimmmmmmmy: awesome. Jonbloor: So good. I love it. FiFi: It was so good. Yeah, there's some really good notable kills in there, like like that one and then Big Nui Nine Line running running into everybody's stuff with Shinocks and and Yak 52s, just just kamikazeing themselves into stuff. if you guys haven't seen go to Trickers channel and he's got a short of someone trying to Goomba st what in Grey Wolf's words, try to Goomba stomp his SA eight. Jonbloor: Ha ha ha. FiFi: And he goes flying across the map. Yeah. There's some good ones. You guys gotta go through all the content creators' channels because everybody's starting to put up all their all their stuff from the streams and it's there's some hilarious moments that I Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, talking about hilarious moments, not hilarious moments, successful use of tactics and equipment. They on the last day blue got a bunch of BMPs and like infantry fighting vehicles up to the front lines and they were parked like literally right on the edge of our airfields, just smacking us like with brush masters as we're trying to taxi. FiFi: Or the or the dude or the dude who who we were trying to take one take a base and he was hiding in a Humvee on the ramp. And then there was like two C one thirties that were landing that just landed trying to unload cargo and he just straight up kamikaze himself and the Humvee into the Hercs and blew him up. Just brilliant. Jimmmmmmmy: This is Jonbloor: Well Jimmmmmmmy: The whole Jonbloor: it's Jimmmmmmmy: the whole weekend was awesome. Jonbloor: Yeah. It it like you said, it both it Ahab: It was. It was a blast. Jonbloor: it both flew by but also felt like forever at the same time. I don't know how that makes sense. But I don't know how you guys felt, but like it at least the prep as well, as we were building up and you know, we like we said we did the test earlier in the week before and then it was like, Okay, this is gonna happen and then when it was actually happening, it was like, yeah, it was you said it's like it's both this grind that was going on and on, but also all of a sudden it felt like it was Sunday night. I was like, Holy shit, this is FiFi: Yeah. Jonbloor: just going by. Jimmmmmmmy: Are you are you guys physically tired? FiFi: And the other big thing is I was exhausted. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, I like even now I slept like twelve hours last night. I woke up and like my shoulders are sore, my arms are sore. I'm like, this sucks. Like SCUD-o: I'm unbelievably tired. It's FiFi: but the other big thing is we SCUD-o: been an experience. Harper: Yeah, it a big weekend. FiFi: we raised almost thirty thousand dollars alone this weekend from everything. Like thirty thousand Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, we did. Ooh. FiFi: dollars. Jimmmmmmmy: Let's talk about that. So this is this is two things in parallel, right? We have the GoFundMe for Matt Wagner. You know, thank you for everything you've done for us. And then we also have the operation Wags completely disassociated, no money involved, all community event, you know, driven. the GoFundMe is now almost at $130,000. We had how many individual players flew on the servers over the weekend? Was it in the two thousands or was it more? I know Special Kid posted up the FiFi: I can't remember. It was a big number. SCUD-o: National K is going to crunch the numbers for us at the end. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, he posted some of them up in the dev team area. I don't remember them. Okay, okay. SCUD-o: They're not final stats though. I don't know if he wants them shared. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. But it it was FiFi: It was a lot. It was a lot. Jimmmmmmmy: a lot. It was a lot. but the big mile marker, we would like to get the GoFundMe to a hundred and fifty thousand dollars because that really pays for everything that Matt needs. It pays for everything that's gone through already. The co pays, it covers all the copies because insurance handles, you know, the big loads, but you know. There's still that copay. and then also because the chemo, you know, there's a few things that he needs, like a new wheelchair accessible vehicle. He needs some stuff around the house to help him move around. And so if we could get to $150,000, there's two things that's gonna happen. One, we're gonna be able to actually support the guy who made stuff like this possible. And two, Teresa is gonna wax Fifi's chest on live stream. Harper: More here for Jimmmmmmmy: So we are FiFi: My wife has been Jonbloor: Yeah. SCUD-o: Mmm. He's been dodging it too. Jimmmmmmmy: We need twenty thousand six hundred and seventy-four dollars exactly to get FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Fifi waxed live on stream. Jonbloor: Yeah. SCUD-o: And know what he dodged it the first time. this time we have a Jimmmmmmmy: He did. FiFi: It's true. It's true. SCUD-o: recorded contract. Not a verbal contract anymore, a literal message. All right, they're holding me accountable for. FiFi: I I yeah, yeah. I it's a recorded She like Jimmy made a joke about it like a while ago and then I was like and then like Theresa's walking by me and she looked over at the computer and she was like, that's a good idea. And so she's been bugging the hell out of me about this. She's like, Let me do it and she actually has like this whole skit planned up. Like she's gonna put me Jimmmmmmmy: You're welcome. FiFi: in like in like a robe with like with like my hair wrapped up in a towel and she's gonna put cucumbers on my eyes and she's not gonna let me know when she's about to rip Jimmmmmmmy: What is it? FiFi: Rip it all off like Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: she is really looking forward to this. So I don't Harper: We all are. Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: know. Nobody wants to see me shirtless, but it's yeah. Hundred and Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh. You are you are wrong, buddy. SCUD-o: That's gonna be great, FiFi: hundred and fifty thousand. If we did a hundred and fifty thousand, yeah, I'll I'll do I'll let her start ripping SCUD-o: See if you got about like a smoke machine for the effects too, know, get like a LED side in the background. FiFi: Yeah, it's God. I'm I am immediately regretting this decision, but like I Jimmmmmmmy: We need to get Teresa an we need we need to get her an LED sign that says like Teresa's wax wax shop of paint or something to hang in the back or something. Wax for wags. SCUD-o: Wax for wags. There we go, that's what Ahab said. Jonbloor: Yeah. SCUD-o: That's what Ahab said, yeah. Ahab: Yeah, I said in the Discord. Do you do you need a wingman Fifi? FiFi: God. I'll need I'll need a lot of I'll need a lot of moral support. Jimmmmmmmy: my gosh. FiFi: I'm gonna be Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: crying. Like I've gotten waxed once before, like on my back. And like I was it took it took them two days to do one spot on my back because I was just Jonbloor: anyone's building an F sixteen sim pit and they need the the sheepskin seat, we'll have we'll have some some ready for ya. We're up cycle. FiFi: Yeah, I'll do it. God. Jimmmmmmmy: Genuine Fifi skin. All right. Let's Jonbloor: Mm. Jimmmmmmmy: talk let's talk what are we expecting next week. FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Or what do we what do we want next week? FiFi: So there's a lot of d I think we haven't had like the discussion, but we had the kind of had the discussion about like things that people would like to see and change and stuff like that and or things that, you know, fixes and and reports. So the big the big questions that I got were one, is there gonna be like a night vol? while it would be incredibly cool, I think we decided that we're not gonna do a night vol just because for when you get when everybody's streaming everything, it's just kinda hard to see every cool stuff in a dark cockpit. But it would be incredibly cool. But we're not gonna do it. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, a a glowing HUD only keeps people's attention for so long. FiFi: Yeah. the other one is is all the progress saved? Yes. I just got an answer about that. Yes, all the progress is gonna be saved. So we're gonna pick up right where we left off. So we're gonna immediately go back to the Mazduck Me grinder. Sorry, John. But Yeah. Yeah. we're already Jimmmmmmmy: No, he's like ooh, we're going we going back, baby. Jonbloor: It just sounds like a great time. You apologize. I'm like, yeah, yeah, must not weak right now. Let's go. FiFi: we're already getting the red side's already getting the strategy together for it. You guys bring your A game because we're we're gonna try we're gonna try some shenanigans to get this. Yeah, we're no we're not doing it that way again. Jimmmmmmmy: We're not repeat we're not repeating the first thirty six hours again. Harper: No. FiFi: what were the other big questions? you guys help me out here with this. Jimmmmmmmy: So there was a question about SRS and going to native comms and DCS. And we've had a discussion. I think we're gonna stick with SRS, and that is because Blue4, you guys have the Skyeye AI battle net to give you unlimited perfect DCI calls. if you flew this past weekend and you didn't use SkyEye, it is super simple. set up SRS. Tune into your AWAX, whether you're on Nevada or Montana, and literally just call in, you know, Darkstar, this is Jimmy Chaos. Just use whatever your multiplayer name is, you know, request picture, request pogied, request whatever, or set tripwire. I mean, it literally does everything that an AWAX would do. And it doesn't respond with that, you know, robotic in-game DCS comms, which is not bad. It's good. But the SkyEye is that next level implementation to where It is alive with you in the environment. And we're raving about the GCI, but we are behind the curve because we are reliant on people who have to drag a mouse, who have to read numbers correctly, and people who have to, you know, hear it. But when it is on blue side with SkyEye, it is individual direction to every aircraft and it's not oversaturated because we had If we had five fights going on, we had one guy controlling all five fights, whereas Skyeye will isolate and send it to each individual person. So I think we are leaning towards staying with SRS because Blue has the Skyeye tool, and that's something we want you guys to have. I mean, we would probably trade with you guys, you know. I I mean tomato tomato. I mean no it's FiFi: Ooh, Merlin's gonna be mad at you if you say that. SCUD-o: What I will say is that sky is good. Jimmmmmmmy: It's a it's a given it's a give and take. There's pros and cons. Guy I is really good. And the on SCUD-o: Sky's good, but you need to have the human intuition of pushing waves, pretty much. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, the the only reason we don't have SkyEye on both sides is because Skye can only run one instance per IP. And so it's either both sides get the same AWAX or, you know, red just can't have it. And that's just a tool FiFi: Well, and so Jimmmmmmmy: that we can't have. FiFi: that brings up another question that everybody asked was and you guys can answer this one, I'm just gonna ask it for the community, is why doesn't Blue have human GCI and why can't they just use Vogel War? I wasn't part of the the server building team, so I can't answer that as accurately and as well as somebody else in here probably can, but I can't. I know what I've been kind of told and what I picked up on, but You know, what's what's the answer to that? Jimmmmmmmy: The big thing is we're not able to divide we are not able to divide fog of war from one coalition to the other. And we don't want to have fog of war for red because we want it to be hard for us. That's why we put the sky eye in for blue. And then also the entire underlying, you know, base of this is to have fun and to work together. You know, if we institute some of those F ten map options, it's gonna remove a lot of that coordination piece that you have to do like as a team. So it was a so that conversation, it's it goes on every single day, but we just keep leaning on, you know, for the sake of teamwork and you know, keeping it hard for us, you know, red to be blind on the map. You know, we we've we've kept it the way it is because Blue does outnumber us at a minimum two to one. and then they can raise that up to three to one. So communication FiFi: There you go. Jimmmmmmmy: is communication's key. You know, if you don't have SRS, FiFi: No fog award because Jimmmmmmmy: yeah, if if you don't have the SRS, install SRS. If you have trouble setting it up, literally send me a message on Discord and I will help everybody set up SRS. It's a great communication tool. The end game comms are great, but to go back to we want Blue to have that sky eye. We need to SRS because I I doesn't have integration in it into the native DCS comms yet. FiFi: Which is a fe which is a feedback point that we have given and that Big Nui and Nine Line have taken back and they're they're currently Jimmmmmmmy: Mm. FiFi: beating the dev teams over the heads with all the lessons that we're learning right now, from SCUD-o: Yeah. FiFi: this. So the other thing is you guys come fly because there is an incredible amount of data points that that Ego Dynamics and the DCS dev teams and everybody is pulling from this, that to to improve the game and And it's all real real feedback. And you know, the the other the other group that's on that is on the Red Coalition side is the Ego Dynamics test team, like the actual like quality assurance test team guys. And so they're like they already know exactly how to get that feedback back. So please come fly and break everything so we can figure Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. FiFi: out so we can so we can continually make the game better. But the other day, yeah, no, no No human GCI, no fog of war, because this is the our version of the get along shirt. Everybody's gotta wear the same shirt and and and be friends. So thanks for the answer on that one. Jimmmmmmmy: Frenemies. Or one more weekend. FiFi: enemies, yeah. Yeah. So SCUD-o: See you soon. FiFi: what else? Jimmmmmmmy: No, that isn't that is one thing I would commend ED on. specifically nine nine and big newy, because every time and I know John can speak to this probably better than any of us, anytime something has come up where we're like, hey, why isn't this working? Those two are like, Hey, send us logs, we want to send it directly to the dev team, like the core dev team, you know, and they've already got a list of action items that they want to work on from lessons learned from weekend one. And they've asked us to, you know, give them a paper at the end of it, you know, what Can they make better about the core game, the core simulation, you know, to better the product for everybody? Jonbloor: Yeah. No, so w this is something that that D Pak and I say a lot on the DCS news as we talk about this, is that just because you don't hear that feedback from the ED or or all the community managers and that stuff doesn't mean they don't hear you. And the the thing I have been kind of very aware of is especially in conversations not publicly is when I have had one to one conversations with various people in third parties and ED is they all want the same things we do. Like this idea that they're not listening or they want something else is crazy. They they're all pretty much most of them have all grown up with the the the you know the games over my shoulder here. They've all grown up with the games we had and they all see the problems and they're very aware of it. It's just these things take time. Secondly with with this event itself, before we'd even gone live with the event when we were doing testing, I can't remember if it's nine line or big newie, but they were like, cause they were messing around in in combined arms, they This is the first time I've fired up combined arms agents. that I've already got like 10, 15 things I'm gonna send back. They were saying, like, dev team's gonna love us because we've already come up with some things in in combined arms. So FiFi: Yeah. Jonbloor: they they themselves were like, Yeah, no, we we've got ideas already. And then as the event, I mean, Fifi both of us both of us were like in in Discord kind of responding to people and stuff, and people were complaining about, you know. different issues. Like the big one was when we we fired up the second server. And you know, it was we didn't expect it to be as crazy as it was. That was the big thing. And then we were like, we hear you and we're we're trying to look work and figure all this stuff out. And we learnt so much from that first when it went online on Friday, like we learned so much within a short amount of time. We're like, wow, first of all, holy crap, there's all these people. But okay, how do we change some stuff? And we thought We did some testing and it seemed to run okay with like 80 people. And then as soon as you had all these people constantly trying to add the that element of all these people trying to join, that's why we had to bring it down to sixty-five, you know, and kind of get get the cause it was rubber banding horrendously. And I and it was it was sad to watch it on the streams and we didn't want to put people off in that respect, did we? We were like, no, no, jump in, it's great. Once we'd made those little changes and then especially once we fired the second server out, it was I don't know about you guys, once you actually got in the server, it was like, Smooth as butter, most of the time for me at least. Jimmmmmmmy: It was yeah. The work that Heart, Indy, and Special K have done on the server have been fantastic. It's the best. FiFi: And and actually big shout out to to to the Shark Squad and Sharklet because Jimmmmmmmy: yeah. SCUD-o: yeah, sky sharks. Jonbloor: Mm. Yeah. FiFi: she was she was when when we had to when we were trying to figure out the the GCI issue with sneaker, she was she was smashing code while firing AMRAMs and and and then sending fixes like bug fix bug fixes while engaged in combat, you know, to to help get things up. SCUD-o: Yeah, absolutely mad. FiFi: Yeah, just madness. Absolute madness. SCUD-o: SkyShark team held the line so well. I mean, I was ATC during that time. I was sending these three ships out and 20 minutes later they'd come back in for rear-arm refuel and they were like, yeah, we just tallied nine kills. It was insane. But I think that was really a big save by Sharklet because we had no bulls eye. We were giving threat bras to everybody. And when you have... like 25, 30 people that you're giving threat browse to, it just doesn't work out. It really doesn't. But giving full bullseye pictures was great. big shout out to that too, because we had an anchor bullseye track going on and Sharklil was just coding away. It was crazy. FiFi: Yeah, good times. Jonbloor: talent in it. I feel like a hobbit amongst wizards with some of the people and this like, FiFi: Yeah. SCUD-o: I heard it. Jonbloor: can I have second breakfast? And they're like, no. We're gonna code a server. But where do I get second breakfast? FiFi: It's true though. It's true though. Like everybody's like coming through and like thanking us for everything. And I'm like, dude, don't thank us. Like you gotta thank Indy and Heartbr like all those Jimmmmmmmy: yeah. FiFi: guys. Like they're they're the ones who've like put done a a lion's share of the work behind the scenes for everything. Jimmmmmmmy: I think yeah, the the team that I think has assembled is I think pretty, pretty good. And this FiFi: Yeah. So Jimmmmmmmy: and I would I would, you know, put this out to the community for everybody, like this was all came to fruition with a dinner conversation between us, Rob Grady and Nine Line. You know, a a conversation over steak fries FiFi: Right. Jimmmmmmmy: is where this came from. FiFi: At the at the secret meeting that we had at FS Expo that yeah, the the secret Jimmmmmmmy: Yep. FiFi: the secret content creator meeting that everybody ha had at the at the at the Platesome expo that people were like crazy conversating about. so so we can be respectful. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, so Rob Rob Grady, if you're watching, this came out of your brain, dude. FiFi: Yeah, dude, like the idea man himself. but so to start wrapping this up, let's talk about the f Jimmmmmmmy: Well before we wrap up, yeah, let's talk about the weekend and let's kind of why do people want to join Blue For to come and smack the dog crap out of us? FiFi: 'Cause you can win tons of stuff. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Ahab: Certainly helps. Jimmmmmmmy: So just getting so I wasn't even thinking about that, but yeah, we have full packages from win control. We have headsets from PyMacs. Who else is it? Fifi? I know there's a whole bunch, but those are like the big two. Like those two companies right there. FiFi: Full packages from Winkle, headsets from Pimax. We're not allowed to say exactly what they're giving away, but Eagle Dynamics is probably giving away the best stuff. They are Jimmmmmmmy: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, you heard it here first. Quote me, my name is Scud. If you win top FiFi: Ha ha ha. Jimmmmmmmy: score, you get into the closed beta testing group. FiFi: Don't don't no, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true. Jimmmmmmmy: I'm joking, that's not actual at all. That's not actual at all. SCUD-o: You FiFi: Jesus. no. Ahab: Super secret pre release test group. FiFi: not allowed. Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, that would be hilarious. FiFi: That's a a people don't realize how much work is in the to it is to be in the test groups. Jimmmmmmmy: my gosh. Jonbloor: yeah. FiFi: Like and you don't get to play DCS with your friends at Ahab: W cocaine and hookers. FiFi: all because you have some sort of weird special install of DCS and it breaks everything. And then you gotta like you're like, okay, today we're just gonna like this week we're gonna focus on this one bug while you're flying a jet that doesn't even have textures on it. Like it it's it's a lot of work. but no, I think Eodynamics is I'm not allowed to say what what they're giving away, but their prize is probably it's the big Jimmmmmmmy: It's big, it's big, it's the best, the best ever. FiFi: it's the best it's the best. It's the best. It's the most big it's the most beautiful, it's the most beautiful SCUD-o: lord. FiFi: best. It's Jimmmmmmmy: It's the most b it's the most beautiful, best, brightest ever. Jonbloor: Ha ha ha. FiFi: it's so much better than any other prizes that anybody else has given out. Ahab: You won't believe it. FiFi: yeah. The other the other the other the other people give out great prizes. They're great prizes. There's nothing wrong with them. But you d you go to Damies is giving out the most beautiful, biggest, best prizes ever. so but yeah, no, it's true though. It's there like you guys don't want to miss out on that. there's a bunch of other stuff that I can't even it's a it's a long list of people who are giving out giving out things. but another another poem. Jonbloor: I want a poem from Nick Gray. That's what I would want. FiFi: His poems are good. Jimmmmmmmy: dude. Jonbloor: In his voice. can you imagine if you just had an audiophile and you're like flying through Jimmmmmmmy: Get that silky smooth. FiFi: That's it. We're calling him out. Nick Gray, heard you heard it here. Jonbloor: through silver skies? I'd be like, FiFi: We know you watch. We know you watch everybody's stuff. We want another poem of while you're flying the F-8 F. Because he the they just I think the I think the museum just got a a bear cat. And I think that Jimmmmmmmy: I want if I could have one wish, I would wish that Nick Gray would fly with us next weekend. FiFi: It would be cool to see We'd all hop in Spitfires. We'd all hop in Spitfires Jonbloor: Can FiFi: and fly with them. Jonbloor: you imagine him being GCI? it'd be incredible. Jimmy Jimmmmmmmy: Dude. FiFi: Right. Harper: Voice. Jonbloor: Fox with Barcool 20 FiFi: It's Jonbloor: miles. Range 15. FiFi: that'd be so good. Jonbloor: You'd be like, you just wouldn't even fire, wouldn't you? But just can you can you give me another bracoel, please, Nick? FiFi: Well, I think I think Wags said he was gonna try to show up to fly with us as well if he's feeling up to it. And we made the joke about like Wags, if you show up to fly, your job is gonna be to bomb everybody's bases because nobody's gonna want to shoot you down. So just give Wags SCUD-o: Strain Vince will just be lined every base. FiFi: it give Wags an an invincible jet and just let him run up. Jonbloor: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Invisible, invincible. FiFi: Just yeah. So Ahab: Invincible Christian Eagle. Jimmmmmmmy: Unlimited fuel. Yes. Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: another cool thing. So to start wrapping this up, we're talking about the future in this upcoming weekend. Nothing's really changed. we're gonna keep doing it the way we did it because it was it worked well. the the the fight's gonna pick up where right where it left off. And then I think for the long term future, I know Jimmy, I know we're gonna get we're gonna get so smacked around. but for the long term future. People were asking if this is gonna be like a thing thing, like for the long term. We are discussing it. There's some legal things that we gotta kind of and I gotta figure out some tax things around it. because luckily like GoFundMe kind of owns the fundraiser right now, and so they handle all the tax stuff and things like that. But I luckily we I there I've we've made some incredible friends that knowledgeable people. So we might be able to set up like some sort of non-for-profit charity through this as well. where we can maybe as a community pick somewhere to to donate money and we can just do this once a year, maybe. That's that's one of the talks that we're talking about doing. Nyline's already basically conscripted us to do it anyways, but you know, this is our compliance at this point. So, but the idea is out there. We are definitely talking about it. So we definitely want to make this a thing. if if the community really wants it. it's been a lot of fun. Hopefully it's got everybody out flying multiplayer or more and and and just and making friends, joining communities. And let's see if we can get to $150,000 because that is the end goal, is $150,000. No, no, not for the waxing. To to help to to wax. SCUD-o: Yes, yes for the waxing. Yeah, what do mean no? Harper: For Burris. For Burris. Ahab: Why not both? FiFi: So so yeah. SCUD-o: Talk about it, you like the pork and all those toasts? Jimmmmmmmy: I think FiFi: So I'll give the other final thoughts to everybody else. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, I think if you like this event, comment, have an active voice. If you don't like something, have an active voice, you know, give us give us your thoughts because this is a community event and the community view the community's voice is what drives this event, you know. If you don't contribute input, your voice is never heard. So Harper, what do you got? FiFi: Yeah. We're on the table. Harper: All right. I'm I'm excited for next weekend because I think that blue is gonna be I think they've got a taste of what it's like and I think they're gonna be a lot more organized. I hope. But no, I I really I'm really been enjoying it and I love that they're coming to shoot us down because that's what we're here for. So I'm excited to see it again and hopefully we can push the lines back a little bit more forward again. Jimmmmmmmy: If we can get one more farp. Ahab, what do got, dude? Ahab: yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I think that you know, what they did in the end it was working. It was just kind of slow. So it's g it's either gonna be more of the same and they'll they'll push us and they'll push us and push us, or maybe they're gonna regroup, have more discussions, come together, get more organized, develop maybe some kind of a C two plan so they can say, Hey, start going this way, start going that way. They're they're weaseling around here, start working against us and I mean, whatever whatever works, man. So if they can develop a plan. Jimmmmmmmy: John. Jonbloor: Yeah, I think it's not gonna be easier, that's for sure, for Red Four. but then it's also not gonna be easier for Blue Four because we're figuring things out as well, and we might put some spicy packages up together ourselves. The one thing that they have that we don't is C RAM. We've got the pantsiers and they're very good, but the C RAM makes it very difficult Jimmmmmmmy: dude. That thing is Jonbloor: for us to strike back. So they should lean into that. They should lean into it. Jimmmmmmmy: Why are you telling him this? Jonbloor: I know, 'cause I 'cause I want to challenge, that's why. Ruin everyone's days. Jimmmmmmmy: Dude, that that one that sea w that one C Ram at Best Lawn, I think, defeated like probably three of our strike packages trying to slow down. It just like down there, the angry freaking dragon. Harper: Laser beams just everywhere. Jonbloor: It's scary when you see it from like you're like tw like t twenty miles away and you'll just see like like a light show and you're like, ooh, I don't wanna be there. You just fly away. Harper: Yeah. Jonbloor: It can't even reach you, it scares me. Like, no thank you. Jimmmmmmmy: Never mind. Ahab: That's why we gotta put Wags in the invincible Christian Eagle so he can just go draw their fire and we can watch his stream and just FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Ahab: have him be looking down at the sea rams like like ha ha you can't do anything to me. FiFi: man, good times. Jimmmmmmmy: Well, I have a shout out. So one of our Hooligan nation pros, Spaceman, it never fails. Every campaign we've ever had, at some point he is always in the yak or the Christian Eagle doing recon. And there was a bunch of screenshots of him in a Christian Eagle doing recon, like in through the mountains. Like he's like, I'm finding them all, guys. Like And I think it was smoke he had smoke dispensers on his wings too, I think if I remember right. Yeah, spaceman Ahab: Sorry, A Harper: What a chad. Ahab: stack right Jimmmmmmmy: you are Ahab: there. Jimmmmmmmy: spaceman, you brave. FiFi: Yeah. SCUD-o: FaceVamp didn't work. my god. FiFi: give out I'll give out a free I'll put a bounty on spaceman right now. If you catch him in the Christian Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh. FiFi: Eagle and you shoot him down, I'll give it I'll throw a module in. Module of your choice. There's there's there's Jimmmmmmmy: Ooh, yeah. Hell yeah. SCUD-o: there we go. FiFi: the bounty on Spaceman. You can hate us later for it, bro. So Ahab: Still say that there needs to be a challenge where one of them recreates the desert storm hit where they killed what was it, a hind with a with a paveway? Yeah. They need that should be a challenge that they they can win something, I think. FiFi: With a two thousand pounder. SCUD-o: Dude, I think at this point, we're just going full package queue for next weekend. Just FiFi: Yeah. SCUD-o: every 16 in the air. It's just gonna be great. FiFi: So Jimmmmmmmy: It was I thought we had like expectations where, hey, we're gonna we're gonna have these guys be seed, these guys be strike, you know, you you guys be cap. We tried that for like one minute and then FiFi: Out the window. Jimmmmmmmy: You have to we have to face the threat that's in our face and it's it's nine VUs. Ahab: We were just getting overwhelmed. It was like, Get up there, get get up there and send missiles back. We're gonna die and Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, John talked FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: about it, but like that wall of fighters, like legit, there was like one time where there was nine fighters driving straight at us in like a like a twenty mile wall. And we're like, guys, let's try and slow them down so the guys on the ground can get up. And that's our RKD ratios were not good. FiFi: Yeah. Harper: I think I'm on the leaderboard for the most most friendly blue on well, red on red kills. I Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. Harper: think I saw the leaderboards and then SCUD-o: Yeah, you are there. Harper: Yeah. And then I think Trick Tricker messaged in the in the Discord and he's like, great job, well done. I was like, At least I FiFi: Yeah. Harper: I'm w I won something. I want something. Jonbloor: It's a year in five five four, wasn't it? Ahab: I don't know how many times I accidentally locked up mail and sent amrams at him. Jimmmmmmmy: Did you guys have a learning curve where you had to look at the map and then realize and get the correlation that we were red and not blue? Harper: Sometimes, yeah, yeah. Caught me out a few times. SCUD-o: Couple of times we gave threat bros to red 4 players and I was like, I just regret. FiFi: man. All right. Well with that, I think we'll just start shutting this down. Appreciate everybody. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah. well, quick review. I do my reviews. FiFi: Dip to your view. Jimmmmmmmy: This weekend was absolutely amazing. It was probably the most fun I have had in DCS in a very, very long time. You guys have heard me say before I love flying the Yak and the Christian Eagle. This might top that experience. the community definitely showed up. One, we went seventy two hours straight with two completely jam packed servers with PvP freaking meat grinder and it was amazing. And we have raised $129,326 for Matt Wagner. So the man who made this all possible, we are helping him fight for his life against cancer. So come out, have more fun, invest in the community, you know, show your love back to Wags. Let's have fun. FiFi: Anything else from anybody? Thumbs up, thumbs up. We all good? SCUD-o: I gotta do my scuddo for Jimmmmmmmy: no no no SCUD-o: the day Jimmmmmmmy: no no no Beefy you're not getting away with this. We got three new people on here. So Harper, Ahab, John, I have a hypothetical question for all of you. FiFi: the question. Don't let me down. SCUD-o: Here we go. And afterwards we'll get my scott-o-quote in. Afterwards we'll get my scott-o-quote in. Ahab: Yeah, I know it. Jimmmmmmmy: All right, so we have a scenario. There is a right answer and a wrong answer. FiFi: Yeah. Jimmmmmmmy: Think about the characters portrayed in the movies, not the actors, but Middletooth, Tom. Cruz as the character Ethan Hunt in the movie series Mission Impossible in FiFi: Mission are possible. Jimmmmmmmy: a in a Mustang versus the refined, the elegant, the ever wise Don Connery. FiFi: Yeah you can't lead. Ahab: You're creating bias, man. SCUD-o: No bias here, bias here, there's one right answer anyways. Jimmmmmmmy: Yeah, there's one right answer. Inside the Spitfire. So Ethan Hunt in a Mustang versus Sean Connery, 007. The Queen's Best. Inside the Queen's Best Spitfire. Who would win in a dogfight? Harper: Speedfire all day, every day. SCUD-o: That's what we like to hear. Harper: All day every day. Ahab: Mean James Bond was a commander in the Royal Navy before he was double O seven, so James Bond in the spit. Jonbloor: You you're talking to a Brit about the Spitfire and Sean Connery, like Harper: Yeah. Jonbloor: y i I don't even need to answer, like yeah, SCUD-o: Are we full sweep? Have we swept all three? Jonbloor: yeah, absolutely. Like it's not even a contest. Ahab: Sorry, not sorry, Thi. SCUD-o: my god, we've swapped out three. Jimmmmmmmy: So this reminds me when we had the entire Grinnelli dev team on and the entire dev team, every single one of hands down, said spit. FiFi: Unbelievable. I'm done with this. This episode's never coming out. This Jimmmmmmmy: No, this is believable because it's based in fact. FiFi: episode is never coming out. Ahab: This episode is cursed. Jonbloor: Ha ha ha Jimmmmmmmy: Okay. SCUD-o: And one more thing, as this out, I do... FiFi: Never come. It's trash. Going right in the trash. Jimmmmmmmy: yeah, Scott Scuttle, what do you SCUD-o: I just want to say how proud I am of the Boeing Company for certifying the 737 MAX Jonbloor: Ha ha. SCUD-o: 7. It's an amazing achievement and I'm so happy to see this amazing aircraft live for many more years. Jimmmmmmmy: Hell yeah. Boeing, this one's for you guys. FiFi: And there it is. There Jonbloor: Yeah. FiFi: it is. There is. All Jimmmmmmmy: All right, now we can wrap it up. I have spoken. FiFi: right everybody. Thanks for showing up. Thanks for watching. Hope to see you guys next weekend. More money, more fun, more community. With that, SCUD-o: And the wax. FiFi: we're out. More for wags, yep. And we Jimmmmmmmy: and No, wax. He said wax. Ahab: Wax for wags. FiFi: know. Harper: Pool. SCUD-o: Yeah, wax for wax boys! Ahab: Hashtag wax for wags. FiFi: Anyways, rifle kazoo.