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Duke Game Preview · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to The Foundry Corner podcast.
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  I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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  Wednesday night. We roll a little later tonight
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  little later tonight man. Big guy over here.
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  Had a presentation at 9 o'clock. At a bang it out and crush it.
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  I'm assuming I'm assuming crushed done and done man.
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  Done and done. Awesome.
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  Congrats on that. You've been working on that
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  project pretty much all fall. So to, uh, too long.
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  Good job on that nail now he rolls in gets us rolling within
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  like 15 minutes even more kudos to you.
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  I was expecting to be on at 10:30 10:45, but you're banging
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  it, dude, you're crushing. Today, got a knock it out, fast
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  man. Gotta get Gotta Get It rolling
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  and yeah, it's, it was a, it was an interesting time.
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  We kind of got there, a little ahead and did a little run
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  through together before he went in there and went live.
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  Live, but it went well. And now, we're here talking some
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  Hokies talking Duke preview this week.
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  We got some other big news. We're going to hit first,
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  though. Absolutely lot to unload this
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  week because it has been one heck of a week since we last
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  talked on Sunday and we're going to start with basically all the
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  coaching movement. I mean, let's start first with
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  probably the big one and something hook you related tithe
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  Grantham out at floor along with offensive lineman John.
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  Cvcc, Dan. Mullen was already on the hot
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  seat. They get the doors blown off on
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  by South Carolina. He cuts Grantham go.
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  He had already fired members, a defensive staff.
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  Last season. Yep.
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  I mean People are going to say, well, what about Grantham to
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  Tech? What do you say to that, Brian?
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  No, no, no, no, it's not going to happen either.
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  Any, there's a few things, I mean, number one, we look at
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  just what's happened over the last few years with that
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  Defense. Number two, let's talk about
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  there's a reason that grant them hadn't had a head coaching job
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  to this point. Heroes folks the wrong way.
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  He's not necessarily a guy that's going to wheel and deal
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  with the donors very well. And he could be a guy that is
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  abrasive enough with some of his staff that guys might not want
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  to stay long-term. So I think those things are just
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  playing into it where it just he's a at best a coordinator guy
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  that can kind of Silo everything and work within a in his own
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  world there but it's not somebody that Can really do all
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  the things that you need from a coach especially at the power 5
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  level abso-freakin'-lutely. And it's I think the question is
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  now ask is what deep with this move is Dan Mullen.
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  Essentially. Cool to see it a little bit.
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  Okay, that's the question. Did he?
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  Did he punt the the firing of himself out at least another
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  season? Are they going to say?
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  Alright, you did, you did the right thing here.
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  We're going to give you one more chance to get the right guys in
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  house and to at the very least when the games that should be
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  winnable on your schedule. And that's the problem with
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  Florida, this year is, it's not that they're not competing for
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  SEC East is that they're losing games, they shouldn't.
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  And that's the biggest issue. So it's going to to be really
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  interesting to see, or is this a move pull by the athletic
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  department to try to start cutting people off now to start
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  the good people? I mean, it's going to be really
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  interesting to see what happens after the Florida.
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  State game Thanksgiving weekend. Next one.
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  Texas Tech is no longer open before when they cannot go
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  there. John McGraw, get tired.
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  He had been in a HC and linebackers coach at Baylor
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  since 2016 with Matt rule. He stayed over into the Dave,
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  Aranda, his big piece is he basically coach down at Cedar
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  Hill, a pretty big Powerhouse down in Texas for close to 15
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  years. Earlier today guys all
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  conversations like how did this guy get hired?
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  He wasn't an OC. He'd never been.
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  I guarantee you. Joey McGuire knows every good
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  football program and good. Head coach in the high school
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  room in the state of Texas, and if you have and you got to know
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  it and that's the thing because Texas Tech isn't, I mean,
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  they're really what you would consider.
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  I would say a third, tier Texas team Right.
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  They're probably a hair below the TC using Baylor's, they
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  Teeter, they teach ya. You're the cheater, I'll give
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  them that. But, but here they are, your
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  whole, at least in the last five, to ten years, you consider
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  them a step below the tcu's in the Baylor's.
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  Exactly, exactly. So if you're trying to compete
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  against those other schools for profile profile recruits, you
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  better have good relationships. In your state.
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  And also with those good relationship, he's going to be
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  able to find those guys that are flying under the radar for some
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  of the, the higher up schools. So, I think that those
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  relationships are going to play into this being a pretty good
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  higher for them. I don't think, I mean, it's not
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  flashy, it's very much a. I mean, it's probably a very
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  Mike young higher, right? For them except except for for a
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  guy that doesn't, he doesn't have the experience at that.
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  The head coach. Being.
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  But in terms of a guy that's seems to be a good culture, fit
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  a good person that knows the area that he's going to be
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  handling a lot. It seems like that type of
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  higher for them. Yeah, I think it's a good height
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  for them because of what you said about the not the top-tier
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  guys, but knowing the second and third, tier recruits out of
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  Texas to start building the program.
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  That program can be good. We saw it under my cleats, for
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  basically a decade until Craig. James has kid basically got him
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  fired. Tired and they have been nothing
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  since then. Yep.
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  All right. So you know it continues to go
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  on Jimmy Lake in playing on Washington.
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  He's only been there for two seasons.
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  John Donovan out is OC, not really affecting too much.
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  This is not an East Coast thing, but I think you see a trend here
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  and when we get to the last one is the big one.
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  That what, what could have saved just in one day?
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  These guys are doing, right? Yeah.
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  You see a, you see a underperforming part of your
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  team cut the guy? Let him go.
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  That's the only way you're going to be saved.
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  Is because it's Tonight in action, when you attempt to take
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  action on something that is a problem.
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  Most people say he can recognize it, we have to give him more
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  time to see if he actually can fix it but you know Lakes a
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  defensive guy so him him being a head coach just chopping off
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  saying I don't want to say this I feel like it but ever would
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  have became a head coach. This would have happened real
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  quick in Blacksburg record-keeping teams to 18
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  points. And we're losing your car.
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  Yeah. And I think you know we've
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  talked about it a whole lot with with getting rid of break or
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  Nelson. We said it as early as the end
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  of 2018, you could have made the call definitely is as early as
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  end of 2019 when it took Jerry kill coming in and essentially
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  holding his hand through the rest of the season to really
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  muster an a twin campaign when, you know, expectations were
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  fairly High. And early early returns were as
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  about as low as you can. Imagine.
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  Exactly. And that brings us to the other
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  one to the other vacancy that we thought was going to be.
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  And now is not because Scott Frost brought the hammer down
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  fired. The Osceola line coach
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  quarterback coach running back. Coach wide.
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  Receiver coach is like saved, can you imagine the wide
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  receiver coach? Like sitting there.
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  And coaches called the o.c. and shitty fired him.
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  Next guy. And way.
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  Did the o.c. coach wide receivers that might be?
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  No. No, I don't think so.
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  I think he was okay, but he went hammer down, it only really been
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  there to normal years If we if we're taking covid year aside
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  he'd only been there, two normal years.
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  What he's doing is typically what happens in third years of
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  most programs that are under achievement You clean the, a
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  clean house. Because of covid, you know,
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  we're on a different timeline. I'm sure his thought was weird
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  season last year, I want to see where we go this year because
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  they're not losing games because of their defense there.
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  I mean they held down and I know there were some injured guys, on
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  Ohio State. The hello, how is take the 23?
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  That's impressive. They kept it close enough where
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  they had a chance at the end to make something happen and they
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  just they couldn't couldn't get it going.
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  So he absolutely brings the hammer down and I think with
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  that you can say Nebraska is he on a hot seat going into next
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  year likely going to his year five but I think what he's did
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  is he's giving himself the opportunity to wear.
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  If they put a winning season together he extends it one year
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  by saying you made the Right Moves.
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  Put yourself in a good winning position and now we're going to
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  give you. You have a decent season.
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  You get one more season to really Excel if we can get to
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  8:00 or Next year, then he probably is safe.
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  Keeping a job again. Take as long as they see, some
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  sort of upward trajectory with these changes, I think they'll
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  probably let it ride. So what is it?
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  Can I ask you this? Let's yeah, let's go to Scott
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  Frost. How easy would have fit that?
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  Be for Justin Fuente to go in their experience offensive
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  coordinator? Who's been a head coach who, you
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  know, know how to run offense, you know, get some of the stuff
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  he does. It has some pieces of what
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  frosted it UCF, not everything, but there's some, there's some
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  variations, there's some overlap.
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  You think about the area? He would probably bring Vice
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  with them and like them Berg being a Nebraska guy.
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  That's an interesting thing. Again, in lot of this depends on
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  whether Fuente is wants to continue being a head coach or
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  whether he would prefer to be a powerful Ally of coordinator.
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  He's not going to head coach job right now.
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  He's not, not even, not even G5. No.
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  Okay, unless he wants to scrape bottom of the barrel like
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  Bowling Green. I mean I mean or accurate like
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  one of these absolutely dumpster fire programs.
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  He's not doing a good piece of G5, he's not good in a good G5
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  job, okay? Getting that makes sense.
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  He's not he's so he's essentially not getting the any
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  of the puddle jump openings that are coming open.
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  Exactly. He's not going to get those
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  because I think what's going on with him is he's going to have
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  to prove to because the, a do 80s at those schools, especially
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  you think about SMU and schools like that they're making money.
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  They're having good attendance. They're competing they're
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  getting ranked. You want to come in here after
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  what you did there when you was set up with a great situation
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  and you go on down to the really low.
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  Rung, Texas states, where basically, these are 12 to win
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  teams and see what you can do, maybe you can come back up
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  eventually. So that's my opinion on it.
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  You're probably not far off, man.
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  I mean, we'll see that's going to be it's going to be one of
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  those things. I know some people will not when
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  he gets fired. Will not follow him.
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  I will. I will see, I want to see what
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  he does elsewhere and to see if it was truly, was it a, was it a
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  truly bad fit? Or was some of his coaching
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  methods, essentially, 10 years old and didn't work anymore.
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  And some of them, I'd be it, just think things that you can
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  things that your choices you don't have to make as an
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  offensive coordinator. Now it they fall in your lap and
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  he just not prepared to have the right culture fit to make those
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  those work long-term. ERM absolutely.
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  And some of that is how things are relating with players, some
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  of its how punishments are being handed down.
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  And so some of that's been out of his hands but some of it has
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  been in. His hands has been potentially
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  questionable as far as how things were handled.
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  So and that's that's things as a head coach that you don't
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  necessarily have to think about too much as a coordinator.
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  Exactly. So some of those things get
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  taken off his plate. Exactly.
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  All right, let's roll on here. College football, playoff
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  rankings, come out last night, and here's the order.
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  George it, number one, no shock there.
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  Alabama, stays put it number two, I don't know why we
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  punished other teams for not having good games against
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  inferior opponents, but not them.
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  They are essentially Teflon. Organ jumps, one up to number
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  three, Ohio state is now number four since he gets a bump up to
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  number five, right outside in Michigan is number six.
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  Right, so there's something a little bit different this week
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  than last week, right? Yeah.
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  Last week, they talked about head-to-head matchups, that's
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  why organ was ahead of Ohio State.
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  This week. It seems like they do not want
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  to deal with that with Michigan State beating Michigan, two
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  weeks ago, Michigan State's it seven And I know it in the long
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  run in the long scheme of things.
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  It doesn't matter if Michigan State went beat Penn State, and
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  they beat Ohio State there in the Big Ten championship and
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  they're going to probably be in but it's just hope flip-flop,
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  right? Like last week this really
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  matters this week kind of matters just when we need it to
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  matter. Well, I think that's the thing,
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  it's very arbitrary when they apply certain rules.
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  Sometimes, you know, We talked about it last season, sometimes
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  the extra Conference Championship game matters, and
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  then sometimes it doesn't, sometimes flat-out winning your
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  conference matters, and sometimes it doesn't sometimes
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  head-to-head matchups matter. But if you're Alabama or
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  Michigan, they apparently don't. The hamster in the list goes on
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  and it wouldn't bother me if it was consistent. you know, if you
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  have your criteria, you have your criteria, you know, and
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  we've seen in the past that They care more about, I test than
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  necessarily record overall record in terms of having.
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  Whether it's an extra win in the conference Championship Game,
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  you know, whatever it may be fine.
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  That's that's at least been somewhat consistent.
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  But what hasn't been consistent is how they gauge head-to-head
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  matchups with a similar record. Yeah.
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  So if you've got I mean if you've got the same record you
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  would think the head-to-head matchup would be kind of the
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  trump card, unless the loss is a very bad loss.
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  Yeah. Unless the loss is something
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  like if Michigan state had lost to like a one-in-six Purdue.
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  Yeah, like nope. They got lucky against Michigan
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  and the luck ran out against Purdue, but in this case, they
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  rank Purdue this week. Yeah.
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  So Oklahoma State. Eight, Oklahoma has to top 15
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  games in the next month. If Oklahoma beats Baylor and
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  they beat Oklahoma State, and then they beat them again.
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  They're in. Yep.
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  That you can't keep them out. So this is the way this year
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  shaping is why it should be 12 teams.
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  Because the way this year is shaping, right now, the 12 team
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  would be wait for sedating one. There, Texas A&M is the only two
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  lost team in the top 12. Yeah.
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  So again, it's more and more everything that shakes out in
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  the next month in the end people are going to be like, this is
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  why we need to go to 12 and they're going to probably get
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  pushed hard even though they stopped.
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  If this, this is kind of the first year, I'd say that even
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  the early early polls have been well, the early early Rankings
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  have been controversial. Like really controversial and
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  not just down the line. I mean, down the line is always
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  been. Oh, I can make an argument that,
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  you know, how the 10th ranked team, should be the sixth ranked
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  team or something like that, but you but usually the first five
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  or six are fairly written in pen.
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  Yep, I've already barring any losses that happened this year.
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  It's very, very questionable and it's showing the floor.
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  How's that when you start having a number of head-to-head
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  matchups against teams that are in that top eight range, right?
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  It's definitely trending towards they care a whole lot more about
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  I test than they do about head-to-heads exactly.
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  Right, we'll roll on and brine. The next thing we're going to
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  hit here in just a little bit. I feel like we got to go deep
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  dive on this. Probably in January, the new
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  potential. Draft of a NCAA Constitution,
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  essentially given more powers to the school different at each
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  level, you know, D1 D2 D3. What do you think of it?
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  Is it a step in the right direction?
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  Or is it too late? Both.
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  It's absolutely a better situation than what we've been
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  dealing with. This should have been addressed
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  probably five to ten years ago if you want addressed.
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  It five at five to ten years ago.
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  You probably wouldn't have a lot of the problems that you're
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  having now. Probably name image and likeness
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  would have been a whole lot smoother of a transition.
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  So yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a good move.
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  It's just not timely know it's real but it's always something.
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  You've always said about the NCAA, if they dare reactionary,
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  they are reactionary. They are not a proactive
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  organization, they're very reactionary organization and
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  everything that's happened in the last really 18 months.
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  It took them this long and to get this together, we're in
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  reality, you said it five to ten years ago at worst three years
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  ago they should have had something like this coming down
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  the pipe, it will be really interesting the final version
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  and I'm sure sometime in February or March when the final
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  version is released and approved, will sit here and talk
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  about an hour with it about everything in the grainy, yummy
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  details. So, we'll move on from that
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  Brian. I did not get to watch it last.
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  Might but I followed closely on my phone.
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  The Hokies men open the twenty twenty one twenty twenty-two
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  season with an absolute curb stomping of Maine, 82. 47 first
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  before I go? Did you get a chance to watch
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  any of it? Or were you like me following?
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  I watched it from start to finish buddy.
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  Yes, we are behind on Yellowstone and we had to punish
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  season 3 last night. Add to I wasn't going to.
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  I told wifey I was like, listen, we're going to finish this
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  tonight. We'll stay up a little later so
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  give me some details. Who look good, you know, look
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  like much. Look good looks like somebody's
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  look. Good David and look great. 7 for
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  7 from the field. 15 points, having having him look more
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  aggressive at the offensive end is going to be great for this
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  team. Front Court looked impressive.
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  And that's even with a looming, not really having his best
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  night. So I'm really, I'm really
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  excited about what I'm seeing there and I think this just from
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  depth perception standpoint, I know there was some loss in the
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  in the portal but guys are stepping up guys are moving into
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  roles. So I'm hoping that that that
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  Trend continues because you know, we put a kind of a second
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  unit out there and we didn't see a ton of drop off.
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  And the first unit is pretty damn good on its own.
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  So oh yeah. The first unit really really
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  good and some what I think I saw maybe it's Dave and cutting and
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  someone said This is the type of Team, Mike young ones.
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  Yeah, not last year. Last year they played
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  unbelievable with missing the key cogs but like the way this
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  team is constructed is exactly how he wants it and you know,
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  nguesso motion offense and yes it's on the three and and that
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  that's definitely personnel-wise it aligns more with those values
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  this year. I mean and you know they shot 43
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  percent from three. That's if they You'd 40-plus
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  every game. They're going to be in every
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  game. Yeah, every game did get out
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  rebounded, always a concern. That's, that's the big thing.
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  And it's interesting. It, there were a couple folks
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  that were like selectively active and then there were a
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  couple like I felt like position was given a little bit too easy.
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  That's definitely something that's correctable and that's
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  definitely something that, you know, you can kind of work.
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  And as the season goes along and probably a little bit of the,
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  the defensive match up on the perimeter, could be better.
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  But in terms of overall performance, I mean, there's not
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  a whole lot to critique their rebounding aside.
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  Yep, next game, Friday against Navy.
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  Obviously, Navy coming off, if you didn't read, maybe beat
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  number 25 UVA last night. So by game, they got a by game
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  against UVA. Yes.
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  Yes. So Friday night.
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  Check it out. I think it's going to be, let's
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  see. I think it is going to be
• 24:32
  somewhere to be 8:30 Friday night.
• 24:36
  CBS Sports Network. There we go.
• 24:39
  So it will be on TV. All right.
• 24:42
  Brian the follow-up, entree. I don't know if you had a chance
• 24:46
  to listen to the presser any today or yesterday when it Yay.
• 24:52
  Nay I unfortunately have missed pretty much everything.
• 25:00
  Well, basically, this is what going to be said.
• 25:03
  And again, he never really acknowledged what he said Friday
• 25:06
  night and I wish someone would have put him to the fire saying
• 25:10
  when did you really know? Because like the way he was
• 25:14
  talking it's like he was at practice and he was able to run
• 25:17
  around and do things and he saw a specialist On Wednesday, he
• 25:22
  didn't really affect him while he was playing.
• 25:24
  They said, they said Saturday night or Friday night when he
• 25:28
  was doing the presser. He had a tough time talking and
• 25:31
  he apologized to the press and he had similar things coming
• 25:34
  back home on Friday night from BC, flying down, but And it
• 25:42
  gotten worse during the week, the whole piece is if a guy's
• 25:46
  having any sort of breathing issues, are you really going to
• 25:50
  have any thought of putting them on a football field?
• 25:56
  At all. And I don't care if it's
• 25:58
  pulling, he's running around, he's fine.
• 26:00
  He's having issues breathing at times.
• 26:04
  You can't do that. I think that's why we got the
• 26:07
  wind. When we got the win last week
• 26:11
  was he has some problems breathing and I'm sure it was
• 26:15
  like yeah he's not going to play because if there is something
• 26:18
  wrong and he gets popped the wrong way.
• 26:21
  And essentially on the field of play quits breathing.
• 26:25
  Yeah you got a lawsuit on your hands forever.
• 26:28
  Yeah. And you know that's the
• 26:31
  situation. You actually want to approach
• 26:32
  with caution any time. It's dealing with breathing
• 26:36
  heart, anything like that, you want to You want to take that
• 26:40
  slow and animal and make sure you're making the right choice
• 26:42
  there. So I'm not again.
• 26:45
  I don't want to beat a dead horse here, beat it, but just
• 26:51
  communication man. Communication and I think, I
• 26:54
  think that's the thing. I mean, the fanbase genuinely
• 26:57
  cares about Trey Turner, not just whether he's going to be on
• 27:01
  the field, but what's going on? Because we he's one of us.
• 27:08
  I mean and how active He is on Twitter with with the fan base
• 27:12
  and just his outright love of Hokie nation in general.
• 27:16
  I mean, we feel that. So I mean, players like that,
• 27:22
  and not to Discount any other player, but obviously players
• 27:24
  that are like that and really taking an effort to engage with
• 27:28
  fans fans care about fans, want to know what's going on, and I'm
• 27:33
  not saying you gotta your divulge, every little detail
• 27:37
  about an injury, but definitely need to clearly communicate when
• 27:41
  you knew he was not going to go. Because once you once you did
• 27:46
  once you communicated at very, vaguely then people started
• 27:51
  asking questions and I'm sorry, but I'll say this again, we're
• 27:55
  beyond the point where Fuentes getting benefit of the doubt
• 27:59
  from a majority of the fan base. So he's got a essentially
• 28:02
  account for that when he's making his statements as well.
• 28:07
  Yeah. So again what he should have
• 28:12
  addressed was probably what he could have said and this would
• 28:16
  have been resolved with everything he was practicing, I
• 28:20
  thought he was going to play your point was it was a
• 28:23
  communication issue. Sounds like between him and the
• 28:26
  training staff. We're again, you have to tell it
• 28:31
  and I think maybe it's how closed off he is.
• 28:35
  The introvert. He is where those guys like,
• 28:38
  well, we need to tell him and like, but it's tough to get him
• 28:41
  yada yada, but we'll move on from that.
• 28:44
  It's going to be a great weekend up at Virginia Tech.
• 28:47
  Brian, it's poke Hall of Fame weekend and there are seven.
• 28:52
  Folks going in going to mention them all here, just to give them
• 28:55
  a little Kudos. The first we look at Jackie
• 28:58
  develop Hendrick. She was a swimmer and diver back
• 29:01
  in the late 1990s to tie me 10, most outstanding diver.
• 29:05
  Still holds the school record in one meter diving off Time
• 29:08
  conference Champion. So obviously you know
• 29:14
  unbelievable there. Then we get into the track stars
• 29:18
  in man, I can still remember the name.
• 29:21
  Queen Harrison. I mean, if you are if you lived
• 29:25
  in the state of Virginia Union, who Queen Harrison was
• 29:29
  three-time NCAA champion and Olympian in 2008, you know, It
• 29:35
  to Beijing from Richmond. Just unbelievable star.
• 29:43
  You know what more can be said about her in the mid-2000s.
• 29:49
  As far as Olympic track goes, at the Virginia and Virginia Tech,
• 29:54
  then another track star, Kristin Kathleen about the same time,
• 30:00
  period, 7, time All-American want to bronze at the 2016 in
• 30:04
  the 100-meter hurdles. You know, the most individual
• 30:10
  All-American honors for any Virginia Tech student athlete
• 30:14
  that crazy good. Now, we get into names, we all
• 30:19
  know, all know, and let's start it with basketball gym on
• 30:26
  Gordon. I mean Jomon Gordon and defense
• 30:30
  man. Oh yeah, time they CC Defensive
• 30:35
  Player of the Year back in 2006, 2007 on, you know, those are
• 30:42
  shaky years and they weren't the best years for Tech basketball
• 30:44
  was coming on the bill, but he was one of those guys who was
• 30:47
  there. You know, part of that team that
• 30:52
  pulled the upset Or is he won a game in 07 when they got on the
• 30:58
  tournament lost in the second round it's really cool.
• 31:03
  Kind of seeing guys you know that we've seen go in and now
• 31:09
  we're going to turn to the three guys because the big three the
• 31:14
  first is he is d0 G of D. Bu Tyrone.
• 31:20
  Drake 3rd, 1992. 1993 All giggy's three times s and career
• 31:29
  interception, jet Tech won a Super Bowl with my beloved
• 31:32
  49ers. He set the standard for dvu.
• 31:38
  He did he did, and he was one of those guys that came in, we,
• 31:42
  when we weren't a good program, and by the time he left in 93,
• 31:47
  his Mark was made in 1992. He intercepted seven.
• 31:54
  Balls 7. I think I think Housley broke
• 31:58
  his record when he got eight back that year, he was named an
• 32:01
  All-American, 16 total picks. I'm looking at the some of the
• 32:07
  pictures here, the old uniforms, you know, you know.
• 32:11
  So let's break some Nostalgia back in the second round, pick,
• 32:15
  he played in the NFL for about seven years.
• 32:20
  But again, one of the, one of the, one of the, one of the
• 32:24
  Godfathers, one of the oh gee, oh yeah, stand up.
• 32:27
  Standard Bearer. Who you want to talk about next
• 32:30
  which of these two, which of these two hits, your heart man
• 32:33
  to it. These are two of my favorite
• 32:35
  all-time favorite Defenders. Our favorite all-time like atg,
• 32:42
  Let's start with Xavier adibi. The X-Man X-Man, the X-Men.
• 32:49
  I mean, 603 2007. We might have seen every game.
• 32:54
  He played in multiple in person. Multiple in person, All-American
• 33:02
  part of the 06 and 07 ACC championship teams came here,
• 33:08
  brother, lineage And I remember talking about him when we did
• 33:14
  the when we did the Mount Rushmore men.
• 33:18
  Yeah, just Punk pops off of the tape.
• 33:21
  Like it's not you see him out there.
• 33:26
  Just big size can move and is really the kind of the Prototype
• 33:33
  that from thenceforth that the backer position was judged
• 33:37
  against. Like, how close is he to Xavier
• 33:42
  like that? That that's kind of the, that's
• 33:44
  the standard of everyone who came and you know, we had
• 33:48
  Tremaine Edmunds, get close to that very close and yeah, but
• 34:00
  the Godfather of the opposition, he really made that his own and
• 34:05
  really showed what a versatile. Acker could look like on the
• 34:11
  field between those big interceptions, he had big hits
• 34:16
  stuff in the Run, getting out in the flat and just lay in guys
• 34:20
  out. That's what playing backers all
• 34:23
  about and he did it at a very high level.
• 34:27
  He did it man. And over, you know, 40 games in
• 34:30
  his career started, 291 tackles 34 loss, 11 sacks And all you
• 34:39
  gotta always look back at 2007, when literally, we were the
• 34:45
  number one defense in the country.
• 34:48
  I think they gave up 11 points a game 115, tackles 12 or loss,
• 34:54
  that means he's everywhere at backer.
• 34:56
  Yep. That's 10 plus a game which is
• 35:00
  just crazy to think about crazy to think about.
• 35:05
  I'll let you do the honors with the last one here.
• 35:07
  Well, I mean, I got men are be a zone 5 star, high school,
• 35:16
  All-American from Highland Springs.
• 35:20
  From 2005 to 2008, he roamed the defensive backfield.
• 35:26
  And a unbelievable member of DBU and Macho Harris.
• 35:32
  Victor Macho Harris. Joe, you know, shout out to
• 35:38
  Charlie Christian, who was a coach at Highland Springs.
• 35:41
  When Macho was coming through the ranks there.
• 35:47
  I mean, what more can you say is?
• 35:49
  First-team All-American? He won an ACC title his senior
• 35:56
  year, six interceptions, eight pass breakups.
• 36:02
  I mean and you know intercept, if you threw him his way and he
• 36:08
  jumped the ball, every quarterback feared, it was going
• 36:12
  to get house because he was that Dynamic of an athlete.
• 36:16
  If you that Dynamic of an athlete, he wasn't a five-star
• 36:19
  for any reason. I mean, No.
• 36:24
  He was our program boundary corner.
• 36:28
  He was a boundary corner. Right.
• 36:32
  He was the epitome of it. Either can come up, make a play
• 36:35
  in The Run. You got is going to stick to you
• 36:37
  in the past. The guy that's going to house
• 36:39
  it. If he makes the play on the ball
• 36:42
  and and just intimidation Macho was a physical player.
• 36:49
  Yes, he in. And we don't see a ton of that
• 36:54
  and and he was as physical as a player at the corner position as
• 36:58
  you could have. But because he had the
• 37:00
  athleticism, he Play physical. He could do whatever he wanted.
• 37:04
  Yeah, he could play off, he could Jan you.
• 37:07
  I mean, he had forty six, tackles in that senior year for
• 37:11
  any defensive back to even get near 50.
• 37:14
  It tells what Brian said, he's physically.
• 37:16
  He was not afraid to stick his nose and he was not afraid to go
• 37:18
  tackle someone so that group you know in general all of them
• 37:26
  deserve the honors but those three football players, you
• 37:30
  know, it's cool. To see them go in.
• 37:34
  It's Kevin. See guys like that go in and the
• 37:37
  last to especially for our generation and you know many of
• 37:40
  y'all are out there that listen that might be somewhere between
• 37:44
  30 and 40 close to our age. These are the guys you remember
• 37:50
  we also reminisce about it because that's what we want to
• 37:53
  get back to. And, you know, it's possible,
• 37:58
  you know, it's possible. It's an uphill climb right now
• 38:00
  from where we are but it is possible.
• 38:03
  Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 38:05
  We can get there. We can get there.
• 38:07
  Alright, Braun before we go into looking at knowing the enemy and
• 38:11
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  Now back to the episode All right Brian, let's take a look
• 38:44
  at Duke here. The three and six Duke Blue
• 38:47
  Devils will give you a very scary thing.
• 38:49
  Here, they are 0 and 5 and Conference.
• 38:54
  Last two teams we have played who have not won a conference
• 38:57
  game. They both made us their Get
• 39:00
  Right game. I hope that's not the case this
• 39:03
  weekend. Yeah, we've already given away
• 39:06
  to First ACC win of the years. So something we cannot, we
• 39:11
  cannot afford another one. Nah, not on Hall of Fame weekend
• 39:16
  and now on the on Senior Day, alright, not against Duke, not
• 39:20
  against. B.
• 39:23
  Oh dude, 1425 defense not a really good defense at all, you
• 39:29
  know, red zone, defense 110th, you get down there, you're
• 39:31
  probably going to score against them their best to testicle line
• 39:35
  is they are tied for 73 in sacks, about flew over to a
• 39:39
  game. One of the worst down And one of
• 39:43
  the worst third bounce top teams in the country.
• 39:45
  It, you know, at 48 percent, they're giving up so.
• 39:50
  But they still have some players that have some good statistics
• 39:54
  and look pretty good on tape. And let's start with Dwayne
• 39:57
  Carter. Brian, number 90, High 3 star
• 39:59
  out of Pinkerton Ohio, six-foot-three 300-pound
• 40:03
  defensive tackles so far this year, twenty six, tackles four
• 40:08
  and a half sacks. This is the impressive.
• 40:09
  Number two, impressive numbers for me 4/4.
• 40:12
  Bowls three pass deflections. So in that big guy gets you he's
• 40:17
  trying to get the ball out and he is probably why he's getting
• 40:22
  some mention of seen a couple times when I was searching this
• 40:25
  week. And I fell Scouts NFL Scouts
• 40:29
  three pass deflections saying you're not keeping him here.
• 40:32
  He's getting his hands up. What are you seeing on the tape
• 40:35
  from the big guy? Yeah, I mean he has an excellent
• 40:37
  pass rush for a nose and he has a good sense of awareness.
• 40:41
  That when if He's not there. As you said he's getting his
• 40:45
  hands up. He does a good job of when he
• 40:48
  gets to the quarterback finishing the play.
• 40:50
  That's why you're seeing some of those forced fumbles.
• 40:53
  He also holds the Gap pretty well in the run.
• 40:56
  So that's another thing to watch.
• 40:58
  He's not going to get moved out of the gap on the interior,
• 41:01
  they're very much and he's got a good motor for a 300-pounder so
• 41:05
  he keeps working at it. He doesn't give up on plays or
• 41:08
  anything like that. Is he one of these guys on the
• 41:10
  inside? That's not only getting
• 41:12
  production. But is he helping his outside
• 41:14
  guys out as well? Yeah, I mean they can't exactly
• 41:18
  on his side of the ball. They're not able to essentially
• 41:21
  devote an extra interior guy to help the tackle.
• 41:24
  It's going to have to be a chip with a running back or a tight
• 41:26
  end. So essentially you're having to
• 41:29
  vote because of him you're essentially having to take
• 41:32
  someone out of the pass routes. To assist with them.
• 41:38
  Yeah. I mean the guards definitely
• 41:39
  going to have to give give a hand to the center, unless
• 41:43
  there's a blitz coming. So he's not somebody where you
• 41:46
  can let the guard, you know, work work in tandem with the
• 41:50
  tackle on any sort of block there.
• 41:52
  All right, so keep an eye on number 90 there in the middle,
• 41:55
  especially with the banged up Brock this week.
• 42:00
  You know, it's going to be definitely a big thing.
• 42:03
  All right, let's flip next Braun to shock a Howard. 42 amid 3
• 42:07
  star, who's out of the Mill Creek, Georgia six-foot-four,
• 42:10
  220 pounds Hurley, a tackling machine for them.
• 42:13
  Seventy four total, tackles 94 loss including three sacks and
• 42:18
  interceptions whereas he will, my course, am he's the Mike.
• 42:24
  He's kind of the quarterback of their defense.
• 42:27
  He does a lot for them. He's their primary run Blitzer,
• 42:33
  he's a good tackler. He's only average block shatter.
• 42:36
  He doesn't do a great job of getting off blocks once he's
• 42:38
  fully engaged, but he comes downhill.
• 42:41
  Really hard, makes plays when that.
• 42:43
  That run blitz is called. He did, force that safety
• 42:47
  against Pitt. I don't know if you saw the that
• 42:50
  game on the tape there but turnover on Downs.
• 42:54
  Deep in the end, their neck, very next play run blitz, he
• 42:58
  gets up in there. Stymies the lead Blocker in the
• 43:02
  hole and then holds up the running.
• 43:05
  Back until everybody else gets there to finish off the tackle
• 43:09
  and he does a good job in his own coverage.
• 43:11
  He's not suspect, they're either.
• 43:14
  He does a pretty good job holding up there.
• 43:16
  He will get beat if he's matched up against an elite athlete.
• 43:19
  But if he's matched up against a running back or a tight end or a
• 43:23
  slower slot receiver, he can hold his own.
• 43:27
  All right so it sounds like a pretty well-rounded linebacker
• 43:30
  there then. Yeah one we can't key in on and
• 43:34
  say well he's batting covers less attack there.
• 43:36
  Although the way are passing game is look, that's not good
• 43:39
  and it's not obviously you talk about good tackler and average
• 43:43
  said of the blocker, sometimes at the Collegiate level, that's
• 43:45
  all you need to be. Right, I'd say the problem with
• 43:52
  running right at him is that you're also running right at the
• 43:56
  previous, man. We mentioned in Dwayne, Carter,
• 44:00
  so it's kind of a catch-22, but running right at him is probably
• 44:06
  the best option just because you can get it a man had on hat on
• 44:10
  him and force him to shed that block.
• 44:14
  All right, sounds good, let's look it over and let's look at a
• 44:16
  couple. Hello, guys, on the secondary
• 44:18
  here. Let's start with gloomy young.
• 44:19
  The fourth number 23. A top 10 player in South
• 44:23
  Carolina when he came out a mid three.
• 44:25
  Start a Westside, High School, six 1205.
• 44:29
  Also some pretty good statistics here. 60, tackles only one pick
• 44:36
  but five pass deflections and two forced fumbles from him.
• 44:42
  I know you've told me, Brian, he is the Rover, so, he is closer
• 44:45
  to the line. What does he bring?
• 44:47
  Really good that we've got to look out for because again this
• 44:52
  isn't a bad defense but we're highlighting their best players
• 44:55
  that these players have good game.
• 44:58
  We're going to be in trouble. Yeah and I mean he's your
• 45:02
  typical in the Box. Strong safety, really good.
• 45:04
  Tackler big hitter does a really good job.
• 45:07
  Making tackles in the spill area in terms of his coverage skills.
• 45:13
  He's much better in zone than he is in man coverage and Some of
• 45:17
  the stats, you spoke of kind of speak to that, right?
• 45:20
  He will get beat in man coverage, but in zone, when it's
• 45:23
  more read and react, he does a good job of getting an impact.
• 45:27
  At the point of catch, forcing some of those fumbles, breaking
• 45:32
  up some of those passes. So if we can get him matched up
• 45:36
  and man man situation, that's going to be the way to attack
• 45:39
  him, I would ask this. I would say we've been talking
• 45:43
  about it all year and they still hadn't done it, would this be a
• 45:46
  game? Game where we should be
• 45:49
  deploying like Raheem Blackshear given to back looks and appoint
• 45:54
  him to essentially force him to play him, man.
• 46:00
  If we could, I think they do a lot of like, quarters that
• 46:05
  become man coverage depending on the route tree, they do some
• 46:09
  press man. It's a lot of at the line of
• 46:11
  scrimmage type stuff with the corners.
• 46:13
  We haven't got there yet, but we'll get there next, actually,
• 46:18
  but you just kind of going through their coverage.
• 46:22
  That could force them in some sort of mismatched situation
• 46:25
  where you get a guy that's maybe a little more suspect in man
• 46:28
  coverage. Judge with an athlete.
• 46:30
  That he's probably not comfortable covering.
• 46:33
  All right. Well let's go ahead.
• 46:35
  Let's let's talk about the outside.
• 46:37
  Who will he be covering trade Turner willing?
• 46:39
  Not, we don't know until probably Saturday 30 to 45
• 46:43
  minutes before game time guys. Jeremiah Lewis.
• 46:46
  Number 39 at a Plano Texas was a three-star.
• 46:49
  When he came out 612, she's in 1990 last year.
• 46:55
  He was a top ten past, deflector, past defender.
• 46:58
  In the ACC with seven this year 2:03 flexion.
• 47:03
  Two picks 22, tackles this far, and obviously, he is a
• 47:07
  cornerback. So what do you see it on the
• 47:09
  tape from him? He's the best cover Corner.
• 47:12
  They have. He's not necessarily Elite but
• 47:14
  he's very solid and coverage. Does a good job of sticking with
• 47:19
  man and based on their scheme and his skill set.
• 47:22
  They do a lot of Pressman. Again that comes into sometimes.
• 47:25
  Press press quarters depending on whether it's a zone or a man
• 47:28
  called there. But he challenges challenges
• 47:32
  receivers at the line of scrimmage really well and still
• 47:35
  able to run with the receivers throughout the route.
• 47:38
  He is suspect against the Run especially if he's asked to set
• 47:42
  the edge. If he's if he's that backside.
• 47:45
  Edge Defender. If you have the tight end kind
• 47:49
  of uncovered by a receiver there where he's got kind of edge
• 47:54
  responsibilities. He does not do a good job there.
• 47:58
  So that's that's one area where we might be able to kind of
• 48:01
  scheme scheme. Him into trouble.
• 48:05
  All right, so Is he is he just staying with the best receiver.
• 48:11
  When you see him or is sitting more he's going to be to one
• 48:14
  side of the field. He primarily sticks to one side
• 48:19
  of the field, okay? He's usually to the right.
• 48:23
  So it's so just the right? So regardless of where the ball
• 48:27
  is, he's always on the right side of the field, if it would
• 48:30
  be, if his band goes in motion, he'll Chase if it's depending on
• 48:33
  the coverage but he's more than likely going to stick with with
• 48:37
  the right side if it's a Zone look, okay, I only ask that
• 48:42
  because in those situations where if he's always on the
• 48:45
  right regardless of The coverage of where the sets or anything
• 48:49
  like that. Does that make it a little bit
• 48:51
  harder to attack him in the Run game?
• 48:53
  Because essentially, they, we know he's over here, we can
• 48:57
  send, you know, we can send, we can send you on over there.
• 49:03
  We can let the linebackers flow that way.
• 49:06
  He's the liability, That's what I think that's why I'm asking
• 49:10
  that. Yeah, I mean you can kind of
• 49:13
  essentially try to hide him. But I mean, if you go You know,
• 49:20
  trips right with the tight end to the left.
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  You know, we flip that that means he's the the right corner
• 49:29
  back on the tight end side. You know you're in a situation
• 49:33
  where he's going to have some enter sponsibility there along
• 49:37
  with man coverage against the tight end depending on the
• 49:42
  obviously the play call into the the scheme call for the, for the
• 49:45
  coverage. But if it is a either zone or
• 49:50
  something like that, then you put him in a situation where
• 49:53
  he's, he's staying on the right hand side with tight end and now
• 49:57
  you've got a mismatch got it. So let's hope that we can get to
• 50:02
  run to his side of the field, and definitely make some leeway.
• 50:06
  There I'm Ron. Let's flip it over to the
• 50:08
  offensive side of the field for the Duke Blue Devils.
• 50:14
  And just just some highlight, everybody know it's a cut lip
• 50:17
  off thence, we've seen it for roughly 22 years to his credit.
• 50:21
  It's not stayed the same. It's variations of things.
• 50:25
  He did 25 years ago. Tennessee.
• 50:28
  It's wrinkles. You never know what he's going
• 50:30
  to throw and, you know, to me they are a tail really between
• 50:36
  the 20s, they're similar to us total offense there, 31 in the
• 50:41
  country, 443 yards game, they are getting a ton of yards.
• 50:48
  But scoring their 90th. Only averaging 25 points a game.
• 50:53
  They're absolutely. They're worse than us in Red
• 50:56
  Zone. Efficiency at 101. 21, you know,
• 51:00
  only converting 70% of their chances.
• 51:04
  They are, but in the red zone. They, yeah, you have absolute.
• 51:08
  But it's definitely their past three.
• 51:11
  Passing touchdowns on 35 attempts, inside the red zone,
• 51:15
  Three. We got more than that.
• 51:19
  Yep, you look at their passing game.
• 51:20
  We don't even have a good offensive coordinator, but let's
• 51:23
  talk about the guy that makes this Offense Code, Mateo,
• 51:26
  Durant, number 21, a low 3 star out of McCormick South Carolina
• 51:31
  61 195 already over 1000 yards. This year impressive.
• 51:38
  Five yards of carry 11. Total touchdowns 9 running to
• 51:45
  receiving. He's not a one way back.
• 51:48
  Like we saw last week with BC. He can do it both 23, receptions
• 51:53
  over, 200 yards, averaging about ten per, what are you seeing?
• 51:58
  Because he's getting some Buzz where he might potentially leave
• 52:01
  correct. Yeah I mean as you said, he's
• 52:04
  already over 1000 yards, he's really the the second best Back
• 52:08
  in terms of production in the ACC this year, he's patient
• 52:13
  between the tackles has great vision, really good
• 52:16
  acceleration. If he runs to the edge, they
• 52:19
  like to swing it out to him in the passing game.
• 52:22
  They'll also run wheels and stuff like that with and so it's
• 52:24
  not just a screen or a swing game.
• 52:26
  There's also some wheel routes thrown in there, but he does a
• 52:30
  really good job of get taking what the defense is giving them.
• 52:35
  And I think that's why he's been so efficient is because I mean
• 52:39
  that it's not a, we're going to talk about the offensive line,
• 52:41
  it's not up, the elite offensive line but he takes once there, he
• 52:45
  gets the yards and they line up and do it again so consistency.
• 52:51
  I'm assuming he doesn't get tackled a lot in the backfield,
• 52:55
  not very much a guy that is always getting some yardage.
• 53:01
  Unless that, you know, there's a perfect call on the on the
• 53:03
  defensive side with the run blitz.
• 53:05
  He's getting some positive yards and he Is a good job of running
• 53:09
  through arm, tackles between those between the tackles as
• 53:12
  well. All right.
• 53:15
  Let's go next. Brian let's look at the
• 53:17
  quarterback. Before we flip to the offensive
• 53:19
  line Gunner. Holmberg number 12, pretty high.
• 53:21
  Three story came out of Wake Forest, North Carolina at
• 53:23
  Heritage High School 63. 205 passing has a little bit to be
• 53:29
  desired though. He's in you expect that with the
• 53:32
  really good running back but I think the ones that you would
• 53:35
  expect to be significantly higher 2034 passing yards and
• 53:39
  the nine games this year. But less than eight per attempt
• 53:44
  like 7.7 per attempt. That's having a guy that good
• 53:49
  run. You want that to be over ten
• 53:52
  seven, touchdown six pics, not really a running threat, only
• 53:58
  less than 200 yards, but he's averaging to a carry, but he
• 54:03
  does have six touchdowns. So he is an actual running
• 54:07
  threat down in the red zone. What are you seeing out of a
• 54:12
  home bird there? Yes, I'll start with a fun fact.
• 54:16
  My wife taught with his mom when we live down in Raleigh.
• 54:19
  So we're definitely. Yeah, so fun fact.
• 54:24
  Number one, I knew, I knew Gunner Holmberg was going to
• 54:28
  Duke in like 2016 real 2017. Yeah.
• 54:34
  Well, so I was like, okay, well, you know, we'll see.
• 54:40
  We'll see if he ends up being a starter one day.
• 54:41
  Here he is. He's a starter, he's accurate,
• 54:45
  especially in the short to intermediate range, and that's
• 54:48
  primarily the bread-and-butter this offense.
• 54:51
  He's got good pocket awareness, he's got decent deep accuracy,
• 54:55
  but he lacks some of the true like vertical threat arm
• 54:59
  strength. He can definitely make a good
• 55:01
  throw 40 yards but he's not a guy that's really stretching the
• 55:04
  feel like that consistently and even when he's got.
• 55:08
  Got an open guy. Sometimes he sacrifices accuracy
• 55:12
  for distance and vice versa, so you'll see some trade-off when
• 55:18
  he tries to strike deep down, the field like that, okay.
• 55:22
  Is that really a threat in the running game but he's got enough
• 55:25
  athleticism to scramble when needed and they use him heavily.
• 55:29
  If they get inside the five, I mean, it's pretty much either.
• 55:32
  He's throwing a fade or they're running a sneak, which is kind
• 55:36
  of it. Baffles the mind a little bit
• 55:39
  with having such a good running back.
• 55:41
  So I'm thinking looking at it and then we'll talk about the
• 55:44
  offensive line here. It's kind of like our situation
• 55:47
  where that offensive line is more designed for middle of the
• 55:52
  field and not necessarily designed to push guys off the
• 55:55
  ball. That's so let's talk.
• 55:59
  Let's talk about the offensive line.
• 56:01
  Obviously, when a guy rushes for 1000, they can't be absolutely
• 56:05
  Dreadful. I mean, you know, they are
• 56:08
  giving up about six tackles for losses of game, but I think the
• 56:13
  way you've been talking about Holmberg, that's probably more
• 56:15
  on him being able to get away from pressure and probably
• 56:18
  getting tackled Outside The Tackle Box, where it's not a
• 56:22
  sack, it's considered a tackle for loss, not terrible about
• 56:26
  getting upset. Acts bout mid-pack about in the
• 56:30
  60s, has low 70. So you know he's not a Sitting
• 56:35
  Duck back there with them. So what's makes them, why is the
• 56:40
  combination of this offensive line and Mateo Durant?
• 56:44
  Why are they so good running the ball?
• 56:47
  So between the 20s there, good running the ball because they
• 56:49
  have a lot of quick hitting inside please, that they are
• 56:53
  really good at blocking up and Zoning up.
• 56:57
  The, the Trap is one of them. That's, that's really their
• 56:59
  bread and butter. They also love the inside Zone,
• 57:03
  and but the combination would Te'o Durant in the, the strength
• 57:06
  of his offensive line really makes those two please go for
• 57:09
  them. It's definitely there. 100%
• 57:11
  their bread and butter and they're above average in past
• 57:14
  Pro. They do a good job.
• 57:17
  The scheme helps them because it is a lot of quick passes you
• 57:22
  from the 5 to 20 yard range. They're not going down the field
• 57:26
  a whole lot. So there's not a ton of you
• 57:29
  know, 45 second pass Pro going on.
• 57:31
  It's more of the the 24 second pass Pro and they're holding up
• 57:36
  well there, but there are awful and goal to go situations,
• 57:42
  especially running the ball. They are not designed to just
• 57:46
  fire off and Move the other defensive line.
• 57:50
  They are very much they meet, they need more room to work
• 57:54
  with. So when you're down at the goal
• 57:56
  line and you're in your splits, tighten up and there's a lot of
• 57:59
  guys in not just inside the box, but within the first 2 yards of
• 58:04
  the ball, they don't do a very good job of getting to push.
• 58:07
  Their, I saw Holmberg have about two, it looked very similar to
• 58:13
  what we're dealing with having about two or three goes.
• 58:17
  A quarterback sneak and getting nothing just fucking nothing.
• 58:21
  Well, our I mean, is it, I mean, he's a little bigger.
• 58:26
  I mean, is it just they can't fire or is it just there that
• 58:30
  finesse of a line that undersized when they get there?
• 58:34
  It's like you can't fire your not big enough to fire into most
• 58:39
  division one offensive line or defensive lives.
• 58:42
  It's a little of both, they're a little undersized but also just
• 58:47
  The the way their style, it's more of a moving guys out of
• 58:54
  gaps. Laterally than moving guys off
• 58:56
  the ball. Okay, I got you.
• 59:00
  That makes sense. That makes sense.
• 59:02
  Was it a lot of fun watching this when I hear you talk about
• 59:04
  traps and inside Zone? I know that's highly love traps
• 59:09
  Man. Trap traps are my favorite.
• 59:12
  Fuck, I sound like Fred from Scooby-Doo.
• 59:28
  Jen's 609 yards over 14, her reception only three scores
• 59:38
  comes out of South Side, High School in Greenville, South
• 59:40
  Carolina. 511 190. He's a myth 3 star when he comes
• 59:45
  out. Ex-wife lot.
• 59:49
  Where we see them lining up, Brian.
• 59:51
  He's your slot and he does a really good job on their kind of
• 59:58
  Quick short passes inside the slide, you're out your Slants,
• 1:00:01
  he's got great, quickness coming in and out of routes, but they
• 1:00:04
  also use him up the seam and that if they're going deep, it's
• 1:00:12
  usually him off of some sort of play-action attacking the middle
• 1:00:16
  of the field. Okay.
• 1:00:20
  All right, well, let me ask this, are they primarily in
• 1:00:23
  three-wide sets? Pretty much every down there at
• 1:00:27
  least going three wide occasionally, they'll run in an
• 1:00:30
  extra tight in HVAC but usually they're going three wide with
• 1:00:37
  the kind of HVAC. They use in either in line or in
• 1:00:42
  the backfield. All right, so what will be your
• 1:00:46
  expectation for us? How much should we run nickel,
• 1:00:50
  getting strong, Chapman and Waller out there to cover him
• 1:00:54
  and letting Connor Play on the inside.
• 1:01:00
  I don't want to do it too much just because of how much they
• 1:01:03
  run between the tackles, okay. Does that worry then with
• 1:01:08
  Calhoun on to my I think? No not not too much just because
• 1:01:13
  I feel like they don't they're not successful hitting down
• 1:01:16
  field that much. Okay, so while we are suspect in
• 1:01:20
  that in that coverage responsibility I don't think
• 1:01:23
  it'll bite us for the home runs. I think you might keep us on the
• 1:01:27
  field a little longer than we like to here and there but it's
• 1:01:32
  not going to end up with six on the board.
• 1:01:34
  Very often guy that makes Sense. All right, Brian.
• 1:01:38
  Tell me if you've heard this before.
• 1:01:41
  Six foot five, 220 lb tight end. Every week, a six foot five, 220
• 1:01:51
  lb tight end. Or somewhere in there.
• 1:01:55
  That's Jake Bobo number 19 out of Belmont.
• 1:01:59
  Massachusetts mid 3 star when he came out 59 perception 635 yards
• 1:02:06
  right at 11 per reception, only one touchdown this year.
• 1:02:10
  What are you seeing out of Jake Bo Bo Ryan?
• 1:02:13
  Yeah, they really don't use them as a tight end.
• 1:02:16
  They use them as a wider. I mean he's essentially Bucky
• 1:02:18
  Hodges. Okay.
• 1:02:20
  Yeah. I mean, he's really a wide
• 1:02:22
  receiver. They use them outside.
• 1:02:27
  Sometimes, they'll put him in the slot, sometimes they'll put
• 1:02:29
  him on line, but usually he's outside and he's there.
• 1:02:33
  Stick mover. He will occasionally get a deep
• 1:02:37
  Target here. They're usually some sort of
• 1:02:39
  like Corner route where they get him isolated.
• 1:02:44
  But he'll run the full route tree and they will Target him a
• 1:02:48
  lot in the Red Zone. Usually, with the fade.
• 1:02:53
  Makes sense being six foot five so he's not he's not the age
• 1:02:59
  back in line tied into they got another guy that does that.
• 1:03:03
  Yep the this he's primarily that Bucky Hodges 2016 type really
• 1:03:08
  big wide receiver. So let me ask this is that who
• 1:03:11
  Waller needs to be on? Yeah, I put water on him.
• 1:03:16
  Almost exclusively if I could. All right and makes sense here.
• 1:03:21
  Well Brian we've talked enough about them, we've given
• 1:03:24
  everybody some insight to what they do some of their key
• 1:03:27
  players. But we've got to now talk about
• 1:03:29
  the Hokies because you know, in this Kappa version a lot of the
• 1:03:35
  stuff that we've already talked about.
• 1:03:37
  You're going to hear again, it needs to be emphasized but it's
• 1:03:42
  really funny because No. The symbolization of a Kappa is
• 1:03:48
  the palm of the hand, right? Yep.
• 1:03:51
  And you kind of think about it. This is a poem in the hand
• 1:03:56
  Victory. We're better than them.
• 1:04:00
  Right. We're better than we have more
• 1:04:03
  Talent we're at home we even had an extra day to prepare but it
• 1:04:11
  worries Us in Braun. Let's let's start offensive ly.
• 1:04:15
  I know what you're going to say, pound the table say it.
• 1:04:19
  Continue the commitment to the running game, pound the football
• 1:04:25
  run. It run, even though they have
• 1:04:28
  some guys who care and help stop the run overall, they're not
• 1:04:33
  built that way and with Blackshear, and Malachi.
• 1:04:38
  Averaging five last week against a significantly better front.
• 1:04:42
  Seven front six. Yep, don't go away from.
• 1:04:46
  Don't get fancy. Don't get cute.
• 1:04:47
  Don't get smart. If those guys each aren't close
• 1:04:52
  to 15 to 20 for both of them, it will be a disappointment.
• 1:04:57
  Yep. So I'm ready for that actually.
• 1:05:01
  So for the second one, I don't know if you've heard this one
• 1:05:05
  before. This is an oldie but a goodie
• 1:05:08
  get whoever is quarterback comfortable early and we did not
• 1:05:13
  do that against BC. We did didn't hardly throw a
• 1:05:16
  pass for most of the first half and by the time we started, To
• 1:05:19
  throw in the past, as we weren't completing them because we were
• 1:05:22
  taking shots, get these damn quarterbacks comfortable early.
• 1:05:26
  Whether it's BB, whether it's knocks, whether it's Taj.
• 1:05:31
  And if BB is out, I better see Taj take some snaps.
• 1:05:35
  Well you know if for nothing else get ties in there to run
• 1:05:41
  the Run dip because Knox is not a threat.
• 1:05:45
  Knox is not a threat for right? If you, if you want to have any
• 1:05:48
  semblance of read option or RPO or any of that shit, you better
• 1:05:52
  get tossed out there. Yeah.
• 1:05:53
  Do we expect them to start us talking with a buddy today at
• 1:05:56
  work? No, I do not expect them to
• 1:05:58
  start, but he needs to wear it for.
• 1:06:00
  He can play in every game from here on out.
• 1:06:02
  If we make a bowl Italy every game, there needs to be packages
• 1:06:07
  for that kid. You need to get him on the field
• 1:06:09
  and see what he's got. And if he runs the ball and
• 1:06:12
  that's it, that's fine. At least you give more of Double
• 1:06:15
  threat to running the ball to your point about comfortable
• 1:06:19
  early. I'm not even going to talk to
• 1:06:23
  you. If the first three passes our
• 1:06:24
  past 15 yards because you're going to be in a grumpy mood,
• 1:06:28
  the rest of the afternoon, like, idiot, we have this opportunity
• 1:06:33
  and you do, we're gonna have to take a shot here, they're
• 1:06:35
  against the seam because they do play that press.
• 1:06:38
  But You still can get these opportunities from guys, that
• 1:06:43
  aren't named, Trey, and Tay. You don't have to always look
• 1:06:47
  outside. You still have H backs, you
• 1:06:50
  still have tight ends. You still have slot receivers.
• 1:06:54
  There is such a thing as the middle of the field.
• 1:06:58
  I don't know if you've heard of it but we should actually attack
• 1:07:01
  that from time to time. We do an awful job of attacking
• 1:07:05
  the middle of feel especially in the intermediate area.
• 1:07:09
  That's where we need to focus. And I don't know if it's a not
• 1:07:15
  seeing the field issue by the quarterback, whether it's a,
• 1:07:18
  just not, not emphasizing it by our coordinator, I don't know,
• 1:07:24
  but it's something but. I mean, we're close to dead last
• 1:07:27
  in intermediate passes inside the hashes.
• 1:07:30
  Well, we weren't great last year and or even the early part of
• 1:07:33
  this year with James and James is an absolute rather, the
• 1:07:36
  middle of people Yep. It's like there's this area
• 1:07:41
  where a lot of times it can become void, right?
• 1:07:45
  How many times just watching any level of football, high school
• 1:07:50
  college or Pro that the middle of the field?
• 1:07:53
  Gets voided now, and one of the best schematic offensive
• 1:07:56
  coordinators, know how to manipulate to get holes in the
• 1:08:00
  middle of the field wide open, and it's easy passes.
• 1:08:04
  It's easier passes because it's literally straight, but will
• 1:08:09
  digress on that. I hope be be there.
• 1:08:13
  I think BB you play and I know he's, he took a shot to the ribs
• 1:08:19
  but if he can throw, he was thrown on the Cylon he was just
• 1:08:22
  in pain. Yeah, what I think will happen
• 1:08:25
  is I think he will get a cortisone shot.
• 1:08:28
  And for three quarters of the game, he won't feel it.
• 1:08:32
  And starting the fourth he will. And return of perk my sister,
• 1:08:39
  you know, maybe the other big thing.
• 1:08:42
  Brian and and I think this is an absolute must is because they're
• 1:08:46
  not a good team. We have to score early, it does
• 1:08:49
  not have to be often, but we've got to put I think at least 14
• 1:08:54
  points up by halftime. Yep.
• 1:08:58
  I'm with you, we've got to score against these guys because they
• 1:09:00
  will move the ball, which means, unless they're going for it on
• 1:09:03
  Fourth, like they did a handful of times against Pitt last week.
• 1:09:10
  They're going to have moments where they're going to at least
• 1:09:13
  get field goals on these drives. We got to, at least at least
• 1:09:17
  match that if not put, put it in the end zone ourselves and I'd
• 1:09:21
  love to trade touchdowns for field goals against Duke,
• 1:09:25
  because then then we can make some make some hey there.
• 1:09:29
  What worries me is if we get into field goal fight with them.
• 1:09:34
  Yep, that is the worst and far here.
• 1:09:38
  All right Braun, let's flip over to defense.
• 1:09:40
  Let's talk about it. They are a good running team.
• 1:09:45
  We saw what happened last week now.
• 1:09:47
  Luckily that was more of a power scheme will bit more push
• 1:09:50
  around. This is more finesse what has to
• 1:09:53
  go on the defensive line and the linebacking corps.
• 1:09:58
  All the front six much better Gap.
• 1:10:00
  Integrity this week than against BC and it should be easier.
• 1:10:03
  Sledding this week, you're not playing as physical of offensive
• 1:10:07
  line. It's more finesse.
• 1:10:08
  Yeah, they run the traps good but you need to hold their Gap.
• 1:10:12
  Make sure that you're not. Making a good hole, a great hole
• 1:10:17
  and make sure that your linebackers are filling timely.
• 1:10:21
  So you're not at the second level with Mateo Durant and
• 1:10:27
  going hand-in-hand with that man.
• 1:10:28
  You gotta tackle, you gotta tackle.
• 1:10:30
  Tackle tackle tackle because we have not done that.
• 1:10:33
  Well, the last few weeks either we have not done it well at all.
• 1:10:38
  I don't think we've actually had a really good tackling game
• 1:10:42
  since middle Tennessee. See.
• 1:10:45
  That sounds about right that sound about right?
• 1:10:49
  And when I say that, I don't mean.
• 1:10:50
  Has there been quarters? Where we have tackled great?
• 1:10:52
  Yes. Absolutely.
• 1:10:54
  There have been quarters where we tackle great in the one thing
• 1:10:58
  that you mentioned about Durant, that's a little bit more
• 1:11:04
  worrisome than the BC back. Is you mentioned that
• 1:11:06
  acceleration to the edge? You know, when we talk about the
• 1:11:12
  tackling, if we don't tackle him, it's not going to be what
• 1:11:18
  we talked about last week, the less than 20.
• 1:11:20
  How many we kept them less than 20?
• 1:11:22
  I think you could break a big one.
• 1:11:24
  I really feel that because of the couple times of watch them,
• 1:11:29
  you talking about that acceleration?
• 1:11:31
  It's not going to be this always slow them down and then we got
• 1:11:35
  him. Six yards later, I know you're
• 1:11:37
  going to slowing down. You're going to get about 16
• 1:11:39
  yards later. For 26 yards, later.
• 1:11:44
  So you know tackle, I don't know, I know it's getting later
• 1:11:49
  in the season but they've got to get that somewhat corrected in
• 1:11:53
  these next three games. Absolutely.
• 1:11:55
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:11:56
  Last big piece here Braun. They do have a tendency to turn
• 1:12:01
  the ball over. I think we need to lease be a
• 1:12:06
  plus 2. Yeah, I think we do a plus 2.
• 1:12:12
  I think we win the game comfortably.
• 1:12:14
  If it said yeah 0, or they win it.
• 1:12:20
  Get your drinks out. It's really locks out.
• 1:12:24
  Get your Tylenol out. It's not going to be a fun game
• 1:12:27
  to watch as it gets later. Yeah.
• 1:12:30
  And just talking about the turnovers Gunners prone to a bad
• 1:12:35
  decision here. There there was a fumbled
• 1:12:38
  exchange at the 1-yard line against Pitt that pretty much
• 1:12:43
  took at least three points off the board for Duke.
• 1:12:45
  So and they had had a previous fumble on that same Drive.
• 1:12:49
  That they got on so they will put the ball in the turf.
• 1:12:53
  They will throw it to you. We just got to capitalize on
• 1:12:57
  those. Make sure we get turnovers there
• 1:13:00
  and I think if we like you said, if we win the turnover battle
• 1:13:02
  especially when it by 2, I think that sets us up pretty good.
• 1:13:07
  All right. Brian prediction time, I lived
• 1:13:10
  last week you leave this week, sir.
• 1:13:13
  I think this is closer than we want it to be, but I think we
• 1:13:16
  pull it out. I've got the Hokies winning.
• 1:13:19
  420. All right yeah definitely closer
• 1:13:23
  than what the experts think. I mean it was actually let me
• 1:13:26
  pull up one of the apps I have here this game.
• 1:13:32
  As of 11:30 Eastern Standard Time, on a Wednesday night is,
• 1:13:37
  we're laying 11 and a half. It had a Sonata that's asked on
• 1:13:44
  a mount for a team that just lost to Boston College and got
• 1:13:48
  handled and we don't know if their quarterback starting.
• 1:13:50
  Exactly. So maybe they know he is
• 1:13:52
  starving. Um, The over unders 50.
• 1:13:56
  They're saying, we're winning this game like 3120 that if we
• 1:14:01
  go plus 2 in the turnover. Yeah.
• 1:14:04
  But if you're saying everything is going to be, even I'll still
• 1:14:07
  think we win this game. I think we pull one out for the
• 1:14:10
  seniors for the Hall of Fame, guys.
• 1:14:12
  I'm gonna go 2720 at, think we get one more score than what you
• 1:14:20
  think. I can kick some probably, some,
• 1:14:23
  we get a field goal early or Something and we always stay
• 1:14:26
  ahead of them. So we're both picking for the
• 1:14:29
  Hokies this week. We're not know dissenting
• 1:14:32
  opinions between first time, long time we've picked for the
• 1:14:36
  Hokies on the same week Richmond Richmond.
• 1:14:40
  Yeah, I think so. Well, the last games they want
• 1:14:45
  to. So let's roll on Brian.
• 1:14:48
  Let's take a look at our Saturday, pick them's Brian.
• 1:14:52
  After the five and five week. 85 and one I'm 5941 and one if you
• 1:15:00
  would have made every bet you would be in the plus category
• 1:15:03
  for us. So, I want to listen to us.
• 1:15:08
  We're doing alright, we're not doing bad.
• 1:15:12
  I mean, we're better than a coin flip.
• 1:15:14
  So we're better than a call. All right, Brian.
• 1:15:17
  We're going to start today UNC pit.
• 1:15:21
  I'll lead some time leading the thing and I'm gonna go with pit.
• 1:15:25
  I don't see six-and-a-half being enough for Carolina to cover.
• 1:15:31
  I mean, they gave up 55 to wake and I know wakes a good offense.
• 1:15:34
  So as pit I do think that was an emotional Victory or emotional
• 1:15:40
  game for Carolina and they needed a bunch of fluky stuff to
• 1:15:44
  win that game and to cover. But this is a Thursday night.
• 1:15:49
  So short week for both teams and it's at Pitt.
• 1:15:53
  There will not be much energy there that's why I'm going pit.
• 1:15:58
  I'm with you and it's got a lot to do.
• 1:16:01
  I'll be when you look at what happened last week with you and
• 1:16:04
  see they needed wakes running back to get injured and the
• 1:16:08
  offense to forget how to offense for most of the fourth quarter
• 1:16:13
  to pull that out. I don't see that happening
• 1:16:16
  again, spit. I think you're going to get a
• 1:16:21
  solid Kenny Pickett for most of the game.
• 1:16:24
  What's the what's the rent? A banach Anna.
• 1:16:26
  You're going to get, I can't say his name.
• 1:16:28
  You get a whole lot of him, and I think they're going to be able
• 1:16:32
  to win by about. I'd say, it's gonna be about a
• 1:16:36
  nine or ten pointer. All right, let's go and put in
• 1:16:39
  that game. All right, Brian.
• 1:16:40
  Let's take a look at this one. Syracuse Louisville.
• 1:16:42
  This is at Louisville. Louisville home favorite laying
• 1:16:46
  3.2 you taken. I'm taking huge to win outright.
• 1:16:52
  I think they're gonna be able to run the ball, all game against
• 1:16:56
  them. I think Schrader's going to make
• 1:16:59
  enough plays in the passing game for it to be an outright win.
• 1:17:03
  Yeah, I'm with you on that. I'll take using the point.
• 1:17:05
  I do see them winning out right as well.
• 1:17:09
  You know, Louisville four and five had Clemson.
• 1:17:14
  Couldn't close the deal where Syracuse coming off a bye week,
• 1:17:19
  I'm on the verge of Bowl eligibility.
• 1:17:21
  On the burger, probably keeping Andy know his job and I think
• 1:17:26
  they get it done here with a very solid running game.
• 1:17:29
  Yeah, I think Sean Tucker is going to be satisfied with his
• 1:17:32
  performance. That that like, there's two,
• 1:17:38
  it's so great. It's almost like the your year
• 1:17:43
  end results for a company. Every day.
• 1:17:48
  Here's my setup. So, you know, it's awesome to
• 1:17:54
  see that. It's it makes you laugh.
• 1:17:56
  If you don't follow her, haven't caught it, you know, definitely
• 1:18:01
  do that the other Peace, you know?
• 1:18:08
  Louisville's almost giving up 28 points a game.
• 1:18:10
  I think Syracuse will get that plus a little bit more.
• 1:18:14
  Hey, Brian. I have to lead on this one too.
• 1:18:17
  I have no clue what the betting public is thinking, BC, Georgia,
• 1:18:22
  Tech. Yes.
• 1:18:23
  This game is at Bobby, Dodd Stadium and something Georgia
• 1:18:30
  Tech is getting the full to home field advantage.
• 1:18:34
  Jerk kovitch extra week back probably full week of practice.
• 1:18:38
  Getting the hand better solid running game.
• 1:18:40
  We know how bad Georgia Tech's running defense is.
• 1:18:44
  We saw that firsthand? I think BC not only wins out
• 1:18:49
  right. I think they make this thing
• 1:18:51
  like the 14, maybe Seventeen Point win.
• 1:18:56
  I don't think it's that much but I think it's a solid touchdown
• 1:18:59
  win for BC much like we described Heinz Field.
• 1:19:05
  Bobby Dodd is the opposite of electric.
• 1:19:09
  It is, it is not an atmosphere that gives really any home field
• 1:19:13
  advantage. But unlike Hines it also isn't
• 1:19:17
  dead to the point where the opposing team like a detriment
• 1:19:21
  G. Yeah, I'm just dead.
• 1:19:25
  Team. Yes.
• 1:19:26
  You feel the energy coming off? Well it's a little bit of a more
• 1:19:31
  comfortable State. Like Heinz is such is so big
• 1:19:37
  that we thousand seat Stadium will like 9,000 people there.
• 1:19:41
  Yeah it just it feels weird. Yeah I think Boston College is
• 1:19:46
  able to run the ball. I think they're with another
• 1:19:48
  week. You get your Kovac playing a
• 1:19:51
  little bit more crisp in the passing game.
• 1:19:53
  You'll see is a flowers have A few big game gainers in the
• 1:19:57
  passing game and I think they take care of business.
• 1:20:00
  All right, we're 343 I have a feeling, we're going to be
• 1:20:03
  similar on this one to FSU, Miami, a rivalry of our youth.
• 1:20:09
  That was unlike any other wide, right?
• 1:20:12
  One ride right to battles every year, fights every year.
• 1:20:18
  And I feel like this is might be the smelliest line of all.
• 1:20:23
  Miami is laying two and a half points and I know that, you
• 1:20:27
  know, this game is in Tallahassee. but, you know,
• 1:20:35
  people watching Florida State play in somebody.
• 1:20:40
  Well yeah they almost beat Clemson.
• 1:20:42
  Clemson is not the normal Clemson.
• 1:20:45
  What do you say on this? When you get to leave?
• 1:20:48
  I'm taking Miami. I think, I think it's just gonna
• 1:20:52
  be too much offense from Miami's in.
• 1:20:54
  I think they do just enough on defense to to keep it.
• 1:20:57
  I think it's still probably a one score game, but it's not,
• 1:21:00
  it's not coming down to the wire at the two and a half.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah, I'm with you on that. I don't, I don't see it as a
• 1:21:05
  huge blowout, but I can't lay two and a half points.
• 1:21:08
  That that she right now. They're not playing good enough
• 1:21:10
  football to, you know, to be Close.
• 1:21:16
  Yep. All right, UVA, Notre, Dame.
• 1:21:19
  This is at Scott Stadium, just up the street here.
• 1:21:22
  It's going to be a prime-time game. 7:30, ABC, we get the ACC
• 1:21:26
  Network, they get ABC, Notre Dame Lane five and a half and
• 1:21:36
  I'm going to take UVA in this one.
• 1:21:38
  I can't feel them winning out right.
• 1:21:41
  But I think their offense running Armstrong is playing
• 1:21:46
  actually. Take that back.
• 1:21:48
  Is he playing this week? Brian can you effort me real
• 1:21:50
  quick? Because now, I thought I already
• 1:21:55
  was playing, but now I'm double. Kicking myself.
• 1:22:03
  Let's see, status uncertain, mmm, but he hasn't been ruled
• 1:22:10
  out. So I mean that's Take back, good
• 1:22:14
  things about UVA. Take that back, take that back
• 1:22:19
  completely. Give me Notre Dame.
• 1:22:22
  If there is, if there is a potential he's not playing.
• 1:22:25
  That means he's probably not practicing this week.
• 1:22:28
  If those ribs are still sore, Marcus stream is going to pop
• 1:22:31
  him a couple times and he will not be playing the rest of the
• 1:22:34
  game. Kyle Hamilton will fly in there.
• 1:22:39
  Yeah, I'm actually going to go UVA here.
• 1:22:41
  I thought I still think that Notre Dame wins out right?
• 1:22:44
  But Notre Dame plays a lot of close games against Good
• 1:22:50
  competition. I think it's going to stay a
• 1:22:53
  close game. It's probably gonna be a for
• 1:22:54
  three-point victory for Notre Dame.
• 1:22:58
  UVA keeps it close. Obviously, that changes if
• 1:23:03
  Brandon Armstrong is a full, no go.
• 1:23:04
  But I think, even without the week of practice, I think they
• 1:23:06
  still are able to get things. Done enough on offense to keep
• 1:23:10
  it close. We'll see, My worry, is this,
• 1:23:12
  their defense is so bad and Notre Dame is a solid defense.
• 1:23:16
  I think it becomes one of those things Armstrong's not and if
• 1:23:20
  they get down early like 14-nothing 14-3, they're going
• 1:23:25
  to start forcing it even more than normal against a good back
• 1:23:28
  in and that's where things could get ugly.
• 1:23:32
  Although, I think, I think what Bronco will probably try to do,
• 1:23:35
  I think he'll probably try to crawl this game.
• 1:23:37
  I think if brings if he doesn't have Armstrong, he will grind it
• 1:23:40
  to a halt as much as possible. Yep, look for the football
• 1:23:45
  player, to take a lot of direct snaps God.
• 1:23:49
  All right, Brian next one up NC State Wake.
• 1:23:53
  A ranked battle in the ACC weight coming off.
• 1:23:56
  Their first loss of the year is getting just two points at home
• 1:24:04
  versus the Wolfpack. What do you say on this is the
• 1:24:09
  matchup of the ACC, right? I mean, this is the best.
• 1:24:13
  This is the best matchup in conference that we've had all
• 1:24:16
  year it in terms of ranked opponents in terms of Overall
• 1:24:20
  record. And I'm going to take n c--
• 1:24:25
  state. Because with running back out
• 1:24:31
  for Wake potentially, I haven't read any whether he's out for
• 1:24:35
  long-term or not, but he was carted off.
• 1:24:38
  I don't think he's going to be good enough to go in this one.
• 1:24:41
  I think that's the difference offenses and quite clicking,
• 1:24:45
  like it needs to NC State takes care of business.
• 1:24:48
  Yep, I'm with you on that. I'm going to take NC State as
• 1:24:51
  well. A, this is going to be the best
• 1:24:52
  defense. We get seen all year with a
• 1:24:55
  steady offense, the running back Per week.
• 1:24:59
  Plus if we can remember go back to 2019, when they came into the
• 1:25:03
  lane with what, two losses to close losses, we handled them.
• 1:25:11
  The rest of the season they weren't right.
• 1:25:13
  It seems like there's one thing about a Clausen team that they
• 1:25:16
  get punched in the mouth. It usually takes them multiple
• 1:25:19
  weeks to find recover. So I'm going to take the two
• 1:25:23
  points with NC State because I see an outright win.
• 1:25:26
  All right, bro, I got a really interesting for you when here
• 1:25:32
  and I'll life and time leading Marshall and UAB.
• 1:25:36
  Hmm, wonder why I want to talk about this game?
• 1:25:40
  I don't know, man. Man, I'm not sure if it has any
• 1:25:44
  tie-ins to Virginia Tech at all. I will you?
• 1:25:48
  No, no, no, nothing that I've heard of tie-in.
• 1:25:52
  Super jigna tech with Marshall or UAB.
• 1:25:56
  But just thought, if we talk about the Charles soft lead,
• 1:26:00
  Marshall Thundering Herd, it's six and three.
• 1:26:03
  You know, Charles Merrill is that Maryland, native turtles
• 1:26:06
  Huff. Maryland native.
• 1:26:08
  Charles Warren. Raising the DMV.
• 1:26:11
  Play four years of Collegiate football down at Hampton and has
• 1:26:16
  been on a great journey since then coached at Maryland.
• 1:26:19
  With region for a year been 10 years between Nick, Saban, Joe,
• 1:26:23
  Moorhead, and James Franklin, at Penn State really great
• 1:26:28
  recruiter of Virginia. I mean, he was stealing so many
• 1:26:32
  kids from Penn State while he was there.
• 1:26:35
  You know, the other thing wrong was also an associate head
• 1:26:38
  coach. For Nick Saban says, a lot about
• 1:26:40
  the movie is Yeah. Yeah, that sounds like a very
• 1:26:45
  solid solid head. Coach that Marshall has, they're
• 1:26:49
  very solid and Coach, let's talk about the game, all the game.
• 1:26:55
  Well, Marshalls laying five, this is a home game for them,
• 1:27:00
  you know? And don't get me wrong, you a be
• 1:27:05
  good in their own, right. They're both 6 and 3 and I'm
• 1:27:09
  just going to just throw this one out there.
• 1:27:11
  I'm going to give it to Huff, who after a three-game losing
• 1:27:15
  streak has, right at his ship and has his guys playing great
• 1:27:19
  winning three in a row. So I'm going to take Charles
• 1:27:22
  huff and the Marshall Thundering, Herd lady.
• 1:27:26
  I'm right there with you. It's down, yep, I'm right there
• 1:27:30
  with you. I think the huh, fled Thundering
• 1:27:32
  Herd. Take care of business.
• 1:27:36
  Hey, keep it moving, keep it rolling.
• 1:27:38
  Exactly. All right, got talk about hidden
• 1:27:42
  hooker, right? We got to, he's had a great
• 1:27:45
  year, he's a great year, he's on, he's on a few watch list for
• 1:27:50
  the or few list for the end of the year.
• 1:27:53
  He's getting more talked about potentially getting drafted.
• 1:27:57
  He's a little baby. A baby.
• 1:27:58
  A Brian semi-finalists lister's. Yeah something like that and
• 1:28:02
  he's like he went he went from unranked to light number six on
• 1:28:05
  some of The big boards for the NFL but he has a absolute
• 1:28:09
  monstrous task at hand down in Athens.
• 1:28:15
  They are getting 20 and a half points, but it's been kind of
• 1:28:21
  tumultuous this week down in Georgia.
• 1:28:23
  One of their linebackers getting arrested with a felony, rape
• 1:28:26
  charge, you know, something to 3:30 on, CBS, the line just went
• 1:28:34
  down to 20 Got 20 and a half. Georgia laying the points.
• 1:28:39
  What do you say to this one? Brian.
• 1:28:42
  I'm going to take Tennessee here.
• 1:28:44
  I think they keep it close enough.
• 1:28:48
  I haven't really seen a game that hendon's played in where
• 1:28:50
  anyone really ran away. I know.
• 1:28:52
  Ugh is a different Beast than everybody really on anyone's
• 1:28:57
  schedule yet, but I think just the combination of factors for
• 1:29:02
  Georgia and Hendon playing at a really high level.
• 1:29:07
  I think they do enough to to keep it closed.
• 1:29:09
  It's still probably 17 points but I think they, they keep it
• 1:29:16
  that close. So I'll take Tennessee here,
• 1:29:18
  that's the exact number I had in my head.
• 1:29:21
  I think Georgia wins this game 31:17.
• 1:29:26
  I think. Tendon keeps them in.
• 1:29:29
  I think he throws a couple good touchdown passes to keep them
• 1:29:32
  always Within Reach. I think Georgia constricts them
• 1:29:35
  later in the game and puts them out as what they can do.
• 1:29:41
  Because of the type of Defense, there are even losing a stud
• 1:29:44
  linebacker like they have this week.
• 1:29:47
  All right, Brian, will check this one real quick.
• 1:29:49
  Michigan Penn State little while ago, this line was one For Penn
• 1:29:54
  State. And actually it has flipped
• 1:29:58
  while I don't know why its flipped, but it is flipped
• 1:30:01
  Michigan Lane, one and a half. Now, let's make those updates to
• 1:30:06
  our sheets here. Yep.
• 1:30:10
  I gotta make an update. Yeah, somebody would say, can't
• 1:30:14
  you ever did them do this after the show?
• 1:30:15
  No, because when I get after the show, I'm going to bed.
• 1:30:19
  But, Michigan laying one and a half run.
• 1:30:23
  And I'll lay it on, I think missions a better team this
• 1:30:27
  year. They've had one bad quarter
• 1:30:29
  football all year and it costs them that game in East Lansing
• 1:30:36
  one of their two rivalry games of the year.
• 1:30:37
  So I mean it was a big game for them.
• 1:30:39
  It was a big thing. Yep, and I'm actually right
• 1:30:43
  there with you, I'm going to take Michigan here.
• 1:30:45
  I think that that I was going to have them as the outright winner
• 1:30:48
  when the line was one for Penn State.
• 1:30:51
  So I definitely have them today in the The W here.
• 1:30:54
  So I'll lay the one and a half. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
• 1:30:58
  what's flipped on that game because I looked at that this
• 1:31:01
  afternoon and it was Penn State by one.
• 1:31:05
  So a two and a half Point Flip, not a three, and no, two and a
• 1:31:10
  half Point Flip. So interesting, I'll be doing
• 1:31:16
  some reading tomorrow or some listening tomorrow morning.
• 1:31:19
  All right, Brian? Finally game of the week.
• 1:31:23
  Probably one of the biggest games of the week especially for
• 1:31:26
  Oklahoma talked about last few, the nice.
• 1:31:29
  Next few weeks are going to be really big for them.
• 1:31:32
  They get the 13th ranked Baylor Bears.
• 1:31:36
  This is going to be in Waco. Oklahoma is the five and a half
• 1:31:41
  Point favorite? What do you say on this one?
• 1:31:47
  I'm going to go Oklahoma here. I think this is kind of a one of
• 1:31:51
  the wins that starts getting them back in the conversation to
• 1:31:54
  jump into that that playoff picture.
• 1:31:58
  I think they get a fairly signature win.
• 1:32:00
  I don't think it's a blow out of Baylor but I think it's a solid
• 1:32:02
  10 point win. All right, I'm going to take
• 1:32:06
  bail on this game, I think this game is going to be closer than
• 1:32:08
  what people think, Oklahoma still has offensive problems.
• 1:32:13
  I think a random will scheme enough on defense to keep it
• 1:32:16
  closed. So I think Oklahoma wins field
• 1:32:20
  goal 34 points, but I think it's going to be a war on Saturday
• 1:32:26
  High Noon, High Noon, High Noon, first time in weeks that I will
• 1:32:33
  get to sit down and have a full day of Collegiate football.
• 1:32:38
  So, Bryan we have agreed on all the two games this week?
• 1:32:42
  Yeah, Brian is not clearly. There's there's some weeks.
• 1:32:46
  I will tell you when you when we get behind we were like I'm
• 1:32:49
  going to I'm going to go opposite just because I'm trying
• 1:32:51
  to play catch-up, this is not one of those weeks.
• 1:32:54
  Huh. Not just the way the lines are
• 1:32:57
  Fallen. It just feels like it's not a
• 1:33:00
  week to roll the dice just to do it trying to strategically
• 1:33:05
  place. My dice rolls here.
• 1:33:08
  Ironically I'm going with with UVA on one of those so y'all can
• 1:33:13
  hate me if you want to. But If Brandon Armstrong is in
• 1:33:17
  that game I think they keep it close.
• 1:33:18
  So we'll see. Yeah, we'll see on, but it's
• 1:33:22
  laid out there now like again, if Armstrong was playing, I'd
• 1:33:26
  take UVA with the points, but I'm gonna, I'm Gonna Roll the
• 1:33:29
  Dice and see it's the opposite way.
• 1:33:32
  Anything breaking in the last hour, 90 minutes here, wearing
• 1:33:35
  or hour and 30 minutes, he had nothing jumped off that.
• 1:33:38
  I see man, I think we're good to go.
• 1:33:40
  All right, well that'll wrap up this episode of The Boundary
• 1:33:43
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• 1:33:45
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