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Sharri | 14 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Andrew, good evening, welcome to the program. Good to
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Speaker 2: be back home with you all in Australia and thanks
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Speaker 2: so much for tuning in last week in Israel. It
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Speaker 2: was an incredible trip. We'll get to it a bit
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Speaker 2: later in the show, but tonight coming up, the Albanezy
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Speaker 2: government likened it to a clown show as it falls behind.
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Speaker 2: In today's newspop, I'll look at just how much travel
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Speaker 2: Labour's in ahead of the next election. Cameron Milner and
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Speaker 2: David Gazzard will be on with their analysis. Channel nine's
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Speaker 2: top presenters respond to the news the networks spin doctor
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Speaker 2: has been sacked ahead of a review into the company's culture,
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Speaker 2: and one star tells me that Vic Buckan was the
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Speaker 2: gatekeeper who wielded too much power. Also tonight, the United
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Speaker 2: Nations facing serious questions on what it knew about Hesbeler
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Speaker 2: weapons stockpiled just one hundred meters from its outpost. High
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Speaker 2: profile human rights lawyer Arsenostrowsky will be on the show
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Speaker 2: tonight to discuss the UN, how Israel is fighting a
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Speaker 2: just war, and the Albanese government's betrayal of Israel. Plus
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Speaker 2: with only twenty two days until the American election, more
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Speaker 2: threats on Donald Trump's life and calls tonight to strengthen
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Speaker 2: his security as a third assassination attempt is foiled, but
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Speaker 2: first tonight. Anthony Alberzi has boasted in the past that
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Speaker 2: he's never lost a news poll. Well, that ends today.
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Speaker 2: Just months out from polling day, the prime Minister's re
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Speaker 2: election prospects are now looking shaky, with Peter Dutton ahead
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Speaker 2: of Albanizi in the polls for the first time. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't so long ago now that Albanzi claimed he'd never
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Speaker 2: lost a poll.
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Speaker 3: Oh, we haven't lost a news poll, unlike every other
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Speaker 3: government during every term since since our newspoll started.
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Speaker 2: I think words he'll rue today as newspoll shows that
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Speaker 2: the Coalition leads Labor on both a primary and two
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Speaker 2: party preferred basis. The Coalition's primary is at thirty eight percent,
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Speaker 2: while Labour's primary at thirty one and that's lower than
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Speaker 2: the thirty two point six percent that they recorded at
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Speaker 2: the last election, and as you know, that was already
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Speaker 2: historic lows. Then on a two party preferred basis, the
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Speaker 2: Coalition now ahead of Labor fifty one to forty nine. Percent,
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Speaker 2: and this is because there's been a shift in preference flows.
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Speaker 2: It's the first time since the last election that the
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Speaker 2: credible polling outfit Newspoll has the Coalition ahead of Labor.
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Speaker 2: Now Labor and PS and insiders are getting nervous, but
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Speaker 2: publicly from the Prime Minister down they insisted today that
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Speaker 2: there was nothing to see here.
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Speaker 3: I'm very focused on continuing to lead a majority government.
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Speaker 4: There are obviously news polls where you're doing better than
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Speaker 4: other times and others where you're doing less well.
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Speaker 5: So we're not focused on the polls because what we're
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Speaker 5: focused on is cost of living for ordinary Australia. We're focused,
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Speaker 5: we're doing the right thing. It's a very close it's
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Speaker 5: a very close poll. There's going to be poles of
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Speaker 5: individual seats of the nation all the rest. What we
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Speaker 5: know is that when the election comes it'll be a
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Speaker 5: choice between our plans for the future or Peter Dutton's
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Speaker 5: lack of plans for the future.
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Speaker 2: Now, poor polls have been the undoing of several Prime ministers.
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Speaker 2: Malcolm Turnbull use the fact that Tony Abbott had lost
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Speaker 2: thirty news polls as just cause when he tore his
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Speaker 2: Prime ministership down.
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Speaker 6: The one thing that is clear about our current situation
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Speaker 6: is the trajectory. We have lost thirty news polls in
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Speaker 6: a row. It is clear that the people have made
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Speaker 6: up their mind about mister Abbot's leadership.
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Speaker 2: Then when Turnbull himself lost an equal number of polls,
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Speaker 2: that led to concern about his own leadership, and eventually
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton came after him, a leadership coup I broke
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Speaker 2: on the front page at the time. Julia Gillard was
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Speaker 2: also floundering in the polls when Kevin Rudd came after
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Speaker 2: her and seized back the leadership ahead of the September
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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen election. And the truth is, if we're all
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Speaker 2: being perfectly.
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Speaker 6: Honest about it right now, is that we're on course
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Speaker 6: for a catastrophic defeat unless there is change.
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Speaker 2: But Rud in his second prime ministership didn't perform any better,
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Speaker 2: with Tony Abbott winning a landslide fourteen seats, and now
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Speaker 2: Albanezi has lost his first poll and it could get
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Speaker 2: a lot worse in the next seven months before polling day.
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Speaker 2: The momentum has now been in Peter Dutton's favor for
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Speaker 2: a year. There are many complicating factors, including the Teals,
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Speaker 2: the Greens and those independent Muslim candidates. But it's not
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Speaker 2: looking good for alban Ezi now. There was a great
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Speaker 2: line in The finn Review today where journalist James Curran
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Speaker 2: wrote that Albanezi has always been an excellent party organizer
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Speaker 2: and factional leader, but he said that Albanesi's prime ministership
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Speaker 2: is defined predominantly by situation politics. He operates in the moment,
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Speaker 2: surviving it before fleeing to the next, and you just
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Speaker 2: can't argue with it. Albinizi has a long list of
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Speaker 2: failures over the past year, but then it's hard to
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Speaker 2: cite any way in which he's actually made our country
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Speaker 2: a better place. Exactly a year ago today, there was
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Speaker 2: the failure of the Voice referendum, which was meant to
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Speaker 2: be the prime minister's legacy, but in fact he personally
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Speaker 2: he turned Australians who initially supported the Voice against it
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Speaker 2: by accusing voters of racism and misinformation. He is responsible
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Speaker 2: for its failure. He didn't bother to find a proposal
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Speaker 2: that would have bipartisan support because he didn't want to
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Speaker 2: share the glory when it passed as he believed that
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Speaker 2: it would. Then there's the immigration crisis where hundreds of
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Speaker 2: criminals were released onto our streets, free to allegedly bash
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Speaker 2: grandmothers and reoffend. There's his comprehensive failure to deal with
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism, which I've spoken about at length. His flawed
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Speaker 2: decision to fast track visas for nearly three thousand Garzens,
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Speaker 2: including some with Hamas links. Albinizi is also pushing through
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Speaker 2: a highly concerning misinformation bill. He's running a big Australia
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Speaker 2: policy that's put pressure on the housing crisis, and this
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Speaker 2: is helping to keep inflation persistent. He's cowering to China
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Speaker 2: while our defense personnel have faced aggression and attacks from Beijing.
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Speaker 2: And in terms of Albanese's management style, he lacks authority.
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Speaker 2: Left wing figure Penny Wong is believed to have more
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Speaker 2: command in cabinet than the Prime Minister, and unlike former
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Speaker 2: prime ministers Scott Morrison, Tony Abbott, even Turnbull and Kevin Rudd,
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Speaker 2: Albanizei doesn't bother to get across policy detail that his
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Speaker 2: own government is asking Australians to support. He's either too lazy,
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Speaker 2: too disinterested, or simply not bright enough, and then he's
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Speaker 2: caught out and left to clean up the mess when
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Speaker 2: those very policies that he didn't bother to get across
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Speaker 2: cause massive backlash. We saw this with Tanya plebusx environment
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Speaker 2: laws and Andrew Giles's mess in immigration. The problem is
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Speaker 2: that Alberonize never believed he'd end up as PM when
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Speaker 2: Bill Shorton was Labor Leader. Sure Alberize leaked against him
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Speaker 2: and agitated, but he wasn't truly desperate for the top job.
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Speaker 2: If it didn't come, he would have been fine to
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Speaker 2: continue leaking away in the media as Infrastructure Minister in
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Speaker 2: a Shorten government. So Alberizi hadn't spent his time thinking
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Speaker 2: deeply about his vision for Australia if he were Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: It was a surprise to Albo when Shorten lost the
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Speaker 2: election and he became the opposition leader. And that's the
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Speaker 2: history that has got us to where we are today.
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Speaker 2: Alberze's failures as Prime Minister are comprehensive and unforgivable, in
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Speaker 2: particular the explosion in racism towards Jews and the lawlessness
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Speaker 2: and support for terror that's been largely doned on our streets.
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Speaker 2: Albanezi squanders our multicultural success story while Australians are living
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Speaker 2: in a prolonged cost of living crisis, and all the
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Speaker 2: while he has no ground vision for our country and
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Speaker 2: no command of ministerial briefs. Well news today that another
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Speaker 2: senior boss at nine has been sacked ahead of a
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Speaker 2: cultural review being released this month. Nine's director of Communications
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Speaker 2: and public Relations, Victoria Buchan, was today made redundant. Now.
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Speaker 2: Several months ago, in May, I broke the story that
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Speaker 2: there were accusations from employees at nine that Victoria Buchan,
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Speaker 2: as a nine spin doctor, had swept under the rug
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Speaker 2: claims that news director Darren Wick had behaved poorly. I
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Speaker 2: reported that Buchan had been made aware of several complaints
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Speaker 2: against her long term friend Darren Wick, yet he then
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Speaker 2: remained in the job for another five years. Here were
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Speaker 2: the allegations made against her. Back in May, Victoria Buchan
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Speaker 2: sought to suppress the scandal of Wick's inappropriate conduct after
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Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen Logis after party. At the function, we've
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Speaker 2: now learned of four women who Darren Wick allegedly groped,
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Speaker 2: sexually harassed, or propositioned. One on air presenter who was
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Speaker 2: the victim of sexual harassment claims that Victoria Buchan rang
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Speaker 2: her in the weeks afterwards to ask about the incident,
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Speaker 2: and the presenter claims that Buchan, along with another nine
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Speaker 2: female executive, asked if she intended to make a formal complaint. Well,
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Speaker 2: like many women at nine, she didn't want to lodge
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Speaker 2: a formal complaint so that it wouldn't affect her career
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Speaker 2: at progression. Now, Wick remained in his job, and I
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Speaker 2: also reported that Bucken phoned another woman to accuse her
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Speaker 2: of gossiping about Darren Wick's behavior from that Logis after party,
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Speaker 2: and Buckan allegedly told this woman that his behavior had
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Speaker 2: been dealt with now. At the time, Buckan denied those allegations.
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Speaker 2: I asked her whether it was correct that over the
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Speaker 2: years she had become aware of allegations that Wick had
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Speaker 2: behaved inappropriately towards women when intoxicated, and I asked her
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Speaker 2: what action she'd taken about this, and whether she was
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Speaker 2: more concerned about negative publicity for the network than a
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Speaker 2: duty of care to vulnerable women.
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Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Buckan responded at the time to say that she had
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Speaker 2: spoken to Wick on a number of occasions about his drinking.
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Speaker 2: She said, I was aware that Darren Wick was intoxicated
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Speaker 2: at the logies, he was spoken to and left the event.
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Speaker 2: After the event, I spoke to people who came to
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Speaker 2: me about his drinking. I was never at events where
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Speaker 2: I was aware of the behavior described as Hansy occurred.
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Speaker 2: I didn't recve any internal complaints to deal with or
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Speaker 2: external media queries about such behaviors. Now, some presenters at
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Speaker 2: nine have strongly felt that Bucan didn't have their best
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Speaker 2: interests at heart, and she's accused of helping to plant
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Speaker 2: stories against women during contract negotiations as a way of
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Speaker 2: bullying them into submission. One nine presenter spoke to me
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Speaker 2: today of her relief at Buckan's departure, and she said,
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Speaker 2: and I quote, she was the gatekeeper. She wielded way
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Speaker 2: too much power. This will go a long way to
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Speaker 2: starting to restore trust. Another nine presenter told me she
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Speaker 2: was very close with Darren Wick, so it's not at
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Speaker 2: all a surprise that she's leaving and their speculation about
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Speaker 2: who might be next, and the entire senior leadership team
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Speaker 2: at nine has now departed. I mean you look at
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Speaker 2: who's already gone. Peter Costello, Chief Executive, Mike sneezebe Head
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Speaker 2: of News, Darren Wick and now Vic Bucken. And this
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Speaker 2: all comes ahead of a report into the history of
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Speaker 2: sexual harassment and the culture at nine. It's set to
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Speaker 2: be handed down by the end of this month, but
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Speaker 2: it's not clear yet whether it will be made public.
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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to come back to that topic,
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Speaker 2: come back to Newspoll. We're going to get the latest
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Speaker 2: in Israel. So much more to talk about. I'm joined
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Speaker 2: now by Sky News host Steve Price and contributer Joe Hildebrand.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both, evening, Welcome back, Thank you so much. Joe. Look, Steve,
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Speaker 2: starting with you, I want to get your reaction to
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Speaker 2: news poll Newspoll did for the first time, have Dutton
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Speaker 2: or have the Coalition ahead of Labor today? Do you
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Speaker 2: think there is a realistic proposition that Darton might win
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Speaker 2: the next election, which has to be held sometime in
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Speaker 2: the next seven months.
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Speaker 8: Great job in Israel, by the way, outstanding what you
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Speaker 8: did last week. Look, I think these polls are really interesting.
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Speaker 8: Although The Australian Today, in analyzing it, suggested that much
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Speaker 8: of the shift was from minor parties moving around their
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Speaker 8: preferences and so you're having some people leaving Labour and
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Speaker 8: going to the Greens, and you've got one nation pushing
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Speaker 8: their preferences to the Coalition. But I don't think anyone
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Speaker 8: who's a very close observer of Australian politics could say
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Speaker 8: that there's not a mood for some sort of shift,
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Speaker 8: which is a remarkable thing to say when this is
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Speaker 8: a one term government. You know that doesn't happen in
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Speaker 8: this country, and yet it looks like it will.
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Speaker 7: And I think it went to.
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Speaker 8: The heart of it there and Joe's not going to
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Speaker 8: like this, but it goes to the heart of our
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Speaker 8: Anthony Albanezi being weak and Australians don't like weak leaders.
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Speaker 8: And when you're in the middle of a potential problem
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Speaker 8: with China, you've got the Middle East, you've got a
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Speaker 8: housing says you've got to cost a living crisis. Weak
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Speaker 8: people don't fix those things. And I'll tell you what
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Speaker 8: stood out for me yesterday. Where do you think Peter
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Speaker 8: Dutton was yesterday? He was standing on the grid at
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Speaker 8: the V eight supercars in Batist and I just think
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Speaker 8: that that was him playing to the crowd that he
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Speaker 8: believes will turn their vote toward the Coalition, and that's
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Speaker 8: working class, blue collar Australians who are sick and tired
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Speaker 8: of what they're seeing in the supermarket and trying to
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Speaker 8: buy their kids a house.
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Speaker 2: I want to pick up on what you just said
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Speaker 2: there about the Prime Minister looking weak and Steve, I
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Speaker 2: think you are absolutely spot on. And this is where
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton's you know, what Labor thought were his negatives,
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Speaker 2: that he was unlikable, it has turned to his strength
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Speaker 2: because he is looking like a very strong leader compared
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Speaker 2: to Albanizi. And it's at a time when we're dealing
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Speaker 2: with war and a cost of living crisis that's just prolonged.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 9: I mean there's a couple of things. I don't think
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Speaker 9: Anthony Albanese is weak. I think he's a deal maker.
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Speaker 9: That's his background. He's a few he's used to, you know,
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Speaker 9: bringing parties together and say right, what do we need
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Speaker 9: to do to make this problem go away? You shake
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Speaker 9: hands and we're going to go and say we're going
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Speaker 9: to put out this thing and this is how it's
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Speaker 9: going to go down. And that was his role in
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Speaker 9: the party. And when you do that, I suppose on
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Speaker 9: the national stage, it does run the risk of you
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Speaker 9: being seen to be trying to sort of plicate both sides,
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Speaker 9: and you might say that, you know, Israel and Palestine
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Speaker 9: is a classic example of that, where he's trying to
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Speaker 9: sort of say the right thing to both parties and
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Speaker 9: both sides to de escalate things, and then both both
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Speaker 9: sides just say, well, you're actually not in my corner,
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Speaker 9: so you end up pissing both people off. So you know,
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Speaker 9: it's tough being in the middle. In terms of the
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Speaker 9: way he runs his cabinet, this you have to understand, obviously,
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Speaker 9: is a reaction to the way Kevin Rudd ran the
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Speaker 9: cabinet and he was seen as autocratic. He was seen
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Speaker 9: as micro managing his ministers, eventually sidelining them all together
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Speaker 9: with the sort of kitchen cabinet of four which caused
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Speaker 9: that ministerial revolt which turned into the end of his
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Speaker 9: Prime ministership.
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Speaker 7: And so he's trying to run fending in can.
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Speaker 9: Save God until my next year at least, I think Steve.
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Speaker 8: Man, you really seriously think that he's showing himself to
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Speaker 8: be a strong leader because he goes around both sides
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Speaker 8: of his mouth.
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Speaker 9: But he's a consensus driven He's a consensus driven leader.
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Speaker 9: Lad who's just going to.
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Speaker 7: Go from strong leadership, Joe.
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Speaker 9: Easy to be a strong leader when you're in opposition
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Speaker 9: and you don't actually have to be an say whatever
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Speaker 9: he wants.
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Speaker 2: Need to have been there. The times maketh the man, and
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Speaker 2: it is easy to be a strong prime minister in
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Speaker 2: times of crisis. We have seen prime ministers in the
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Speaker 2: past hold impressive press conferences with the flags behind them,
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Speaker 2: showing their leadership. There is nothing simpler. And Alban easy
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Speaker 2: hasn't done it. He has failed. And how hard is
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Speaker 2: it to come out against terrorism? Seriously, it's the easiest
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Speaker 2: thing anyone can do. He hasn't done it. Speaking of which,
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Speaker 2: let's now turn to the history of prominent restauranteur Our Azbek.
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Speaker 2: Now he's now been charged over allegedly holding an anti
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Speaker 2: Semitic sign which had the Nazi swastika superimposed over an
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Speaker 2: Israeli flag. But the Australian reports today that back in
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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, the founder of the No Bad Restaurants was
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Speaker 2: once questioned by police after waiting outside a Bondai synagogue
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Speaker 2: and in his car it was found that he had
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Speaker 2: water bomb balloons. Now, I've got to say at the
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Speaker 2: same time, and we all know that this has happened
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Speaker 2: over the weekend. The bakery cord Avner's in Sydney, owned
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Speaker 2: by a jew, it was targeted her must triangles painted
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Speaker 2: on the window. A note under the door read be careful, Steve.
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Speaker 2: The owner is Jewish. He's never said anything about the war,
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Speaker 2: so you can't say this is anything other than anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism and it is disgraceful.
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Speaker 10: Look.
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Speaker 8: I think the way he handled that was perfect. He
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Speaker 8: left those symbols was up on the glass and he
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Speaker 8: deliberately did that. And the Jewish community in Sydney showed
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Speaker 8: their support. They turned up there and in large numbers
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Speaker 8: to have their breakfast, which was a great thing. I
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Speaker 8: really get very disturbed by the be careful note shoved
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Speaker 8: under the door, just on the allegations about that bloke
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Speaker 8: with the Jewish flag, the Israeli flag and the swastika
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Speaker 8: on it. What I really get upset about. This bloke
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Speaker 8: today has said I'm so sorry. I apologize unreservedly for
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Speaker 8: what I did.
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Speaker 7: Mate, you did it.
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Speaker 8: Saying you're sorry now has no impact on me, no
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Speaker 8: impact on any Jewish Australian at all. You should not
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Speaker 8: have done it. And there's a picture of your holding
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Speaker 8: the bloody thing, mate. I mean, saying sorry doesn't wash it.
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Speaker 9: I didn't realize that showing a swastika on an Israeli
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Speaker 9: flag was wrong, but now I've embraced those learnings and
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Speaker 9: literally literally off to an ashram in India to contemplate
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Speaker 9: my wrongdoings on my own birth. I mean, I think
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Speaker 9: that the fact that he said, I'm now going to
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Speaker 9: an ashram to dwell on my shortcomings as a human,
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Speaker 9: but like that just shows how outrageously self important and
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Speaker 9: pretentious this person is. He clearly hasn't had too many
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Speaker 9: people telling him is wrong throughout his life. I reckon
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Speaker 9: his business is finished right now. Judging by the comments
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Speaker 9: his wife made publicly about how he had brought so
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Speaker 9: much damage and distribute to it, I wouldn't be surprised
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Speaker 9: if his marriage is also over. But I don't want
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Speaker 9: to tread him to that personal sphere. But it was
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Speaker 9: extraordinary that she came out with such strong language. His
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Speaker 9: behavior ten years ago outside of synagogue was just absolutely crazy,
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Speaker 9: and his explanation for it just defies consense. It is
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Speaker 9: absolutely all over for this guy Ed on the other hand,
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Speaker 9: who I've met a few times and who is the
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Speaker 9: loveliest bloke in the world. The TV chef that's met couple,
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Speaker 9: all us TV celebrities stick together that but he's just
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Speaker 9: a love This guy is a loveless guy. I used
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Speaker 9: to see him at seven other places and he's the
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Speaker 9: loveless guy off screen as he is on.
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Speaker 2: Wish continue to support.
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Speaker 9: Guts his guts in actually you know, I mean, I
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Speaker 9: know what it's like to be stalked, I know what
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Speaker 9: it's like to get a hate mail, and his guts
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Speaker 9: in actually standing up and saying you know what, this
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Speaker 9: will not stand good.
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Speaker 2: So I agree, Let's all continue to buy from Avner's Bakery,
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Speaker 2: jew or non choate. Let's all support it.
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Speaker 8: Yes, Steve, this bloke in Melbourne has heres A restaurants
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Speaker 8: in Melbourne as well, and I'm pleased to say that
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Speaker 8: large numbers of big businesses have canceled events that they
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Speaker 8: had planned between now and the end of the year
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Speaker 8: at his one of his upmarket restaurants.
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Speaker 1: They're just not going to go.
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Speaker 8: They've pulled out and they've said we're not coming anywhere
21:43
Speaker 8: near you, mate. I hope everybody does that and the
21:46
Speaker 8: bloke goes broke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, very quickly before we go, I just
21:50
Speaker 2: want to ask you about the departure that we learned today.
21:52
Speaker 2: Spoke about it just a moment ago of nine's chief
21:55
Speaker 2: spin doctor Vic Bucken. Joe. There is now going to
21:58
Speaker 2: be pressure from staff inside nine for this report to
22:02
Speaker 2: be made public when it is, and my understanding is
22:05
Speaker 2: that very top executives do have a copy of it already.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: I mean, I suppose if they don't make the report public,
22:12
Speaker 9: they're just repeating their previous mistakes, aren't they, Which is
22:14
Speaker 9: that all this happens, but it's all sort of covered
22:16
Speaker 9: up and buried, it happens in darkness. I think they
22:19
Speaker 9: have to. I think that the fact that they have
22:22
Speaker 9: basically got rid of everyone from the chairman and the
22:25
Speaker 9: CEO down. Hi, Victoria, if you're watching. I do like Kigbucking,
22:29
Speaker 9: but I like everybody, as you know you like everyone.
22:31
Speaker 9: I know I'm too soft, but I think given that
22:34
Speaker 9: you know, she was the one who clear cleaned up
22:37
Speaker 9: all their dirty laundry, and you know, to get rid
22:39
Speaker 9: of her when she was probably more responsible than anyone
22:41
Speaker 9: else for stopping the whole operation from falling apart before
22:44
Speaker 9: it did, you could probably debate.
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Speaker 2: That there are also, by the way, there are also
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Speaker 2: some who say the only departure out of this review
22:52
Speaker 2: can't be one woman. There are those people who are
22:55
Speaker 2: saying that. And by the way, as she just point
22:57
Speaker 2: out that, because the report's not public, we actually don't
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Speaker 2: know whether Vic Buckin's departure has anything to do with
23:03
Speaker 2: the review. It could just be a routine redundancy. We
23:06
Speaker 2: are yet to see, all right, Joe Hildo Brand Steve Price.
23:09
Speaker 2: Great to see you both.
23:11
Speaker 11: Now.
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Speaker 2: Today marks one year since Australians overwhelmingly voted against the
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Speaker 2: Voice to Parliament and during the campaign the Prime Minister
23:19
Speaker 2: accused No campaigners of racism, misinformation and being chicken littles.
23:25
Speaker 2: There were millions of dollars from corporate Australia supporting the
23:28
Speaker 2: Yes campaign, and yet Australians found their own voice and
23:33
Speaker 2: overwhelmingly utterly rejected changing the constitution. Not that Albaneze has
23:39
Speaker 2: accepted any responsibility personally for its failure, and he blames
23:43
Speaker 2: everyone else, Peter Dutton, the media and of course misinformation,
23:48
Speaker 2: and now he wants legislation designed to crack down on
23:51
Speaker 2: just that. Well, a year has gone past and the
23:55
Speaker 2: Albanese government has now been accused of failing to prioritize indigenously,
24:00
Speaker 2: shoes of simply forgetting about Indigenous Australians. It's a point
24:04
Speaker 2: being made by Jacenter Price and National's leader David Littlebrout.
24:09
Speaker 2: They're calling for a forensic audit of programs and organizations
24:13
Speaker 2: that they say aren't improving the lives of Indigenous people,
24:17
Speaker 2: and David little Proud joins me. Now, David, welcome to
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Speaker 2: the show. Well, a year on from the no vote
24:23
Speaker 2: succeeding at the referendum, why do you say that the
24:26
Speaker 2: Albanesi government has abandoned Indigenous Australians.
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Speaker 12: Well, nothing's happened. Thanks for having me, but nothing's happened.
24:33
Speaker 12: We've had twelve months of missed opportunity. We've had twelve
24:37
Speaker 12: months and nothing. We actually took a principal position as
24:40
Speaker 12: Nationals before everybody else in November last year and said
24:44
Speaker 12: that we wouldn't support the Voice before anyone else did,
24:48
Speaker 12: because we saw there repeating.
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Speaker 1: Mistakes the past.
24:51
Speaker 12: We were going to create another lie of bureaucracy which
24:53
Speaker 12: we've had before, which is called atsik it filed those
24:56
Speaker 12: that we represent from our.
24:57
Speaker 1: Lived experience, we couldn't support it.
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Speaker 12: But what we did the very next week after Australians voted,
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Speaker 12: was that Peter Dutt and I walked into that Parliament
25:06
Speaker 12: and we moved two motions. One was for a Forrenzic
25:09
Speaker 12: Order of over five billion dollars worth of funding from
25:13
Speaker 12: government agencies that go into closing that gap to make
25:16
Speaker 12: sure that there is value for money for Australians at taxpayers,
25:20
Speaker 12: as well as for a Royal commission into sexual child
25:24
Speaker 12: abuse in Central Australia. Because Australians gave us a strong
25:29
Speaker 12: indication they wanted action. They didn't want ideology, they wanted
25:32
Speaker 12: to practical reality. They wanted action. And that's why I'm
25:35
Speaker 12: back out here in Alice Springs with Jacinta listening to elders,
25:38
Speaker 12: understanding the only way to change this is to listen
25:41
Speaker 12: to elders and have local solutions, not regional national solutions.
25:45
Speaker 12: But this government has been asleep at the will Anthony Alberanez.
25:48
Speaker 12: He has washed his hands of Indigenous Australias. He's done
25:50
Speaker 12: nothing for twelve months. This is a blight on our
25:53
Speaker 12: nation and a blight on him as Prime Minister, who
25:55
Speaker 12: came saying he was going to change the country, but
25:59
Speaker 12: in fact they only spend four hundred and fifty million
26:02
Speaker 12: dollars on dividing us.
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Speaker 2: David Little Proud, I want to ask you your view
26:06
Speaker 2: on this suggestion by one of the Voice architects, Megan Davis,
26:11
Speaker 2: that a misinformation bill would have helped the Voice secure
26:15
Speaker 2: a victory.
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Speaker 12: It would have silenced people like myself and just In
26:20
Speaker 12: an Apple, Genper Price and Warren Mundane. Those two in
26:23
Speaker 12: particular led our nation. What the National Party's position was
26:28
Speaker 12: to give them the oxygen to do that and to
26:30
Speaker 12: give their led experience about why this was repeating the
26:33
Speaker 12: mistakes of the past, of more bureaucracy, of attic mark two,
26:38
Speaker 12: of letting them be able to say exactly what was
26:41
Speaker 12: happening out here in Central Australia where the prime is
26:44
Speaker 12: that dares not come. That would have been seen in
26:49
Speaker 12: the eyes under this new law as misinformation. You would
26:52
Speaker 12: have silenced just In an Apple, Jipper Price and Warren
26:54
Speaker 12: Mundine in what country where one hundred and three thousand,
26:58
Speaker 12: more than one hundred and three thousands have lost their
27:01
Speaker 12: lives defending the very principle of our freedom of speech,
27:04
Speaker 12: that their message, of their lived experience was going to
27:07
Speaker 12: be washed away because the prime Minister had an idological
27:10
Speaker 12: view predicated out a redfern, not out of here in
27:13
Speaker 12: central Australia. That's not the Australia that those one hundred
27:16
Speaker 12: and three thousand Australians defended. Nor I as a custodian
27:20
Speaker 12: of that freedom of speech, want to let go and
27:22
Speaker 12: we intend to repeal that bill if it gets through.
27:25
Speaker 12: But the reality is is Australians spoke, They spoke loudly,
27:30
Speaker 12: and when they do we should respect that.
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Speaker 1: We should get on with the job of what they've
27:33
Speaker 1: tasked us to do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the many examples of how the
27:37
Speaker 2: misinformation legislation, as you say, if it goes ahead, could
27:40
Speaker 2: be misused for political purposes. Now we see today the
27:44
Speaker 2: front page of The Australian the Coalition surge ahead of
27:47
Speaker 2: Labour for the first time in news poll. What do
27:50
Speaker 2: you think the chances are now of Peter Dutton being
27:53
Speaker 2: the next Prime Minister.
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Speaker 1: Well, I only.
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Speaker 12: Hope so, because what we need to is get back
27:59
Speaker 12: to base. We need strong leadership and that's why Peter
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Speaker 12: Dutton and I have shown from the voice all the
28:04
Speaker 12: way through. But I think it's a reflection of what
28:06
Speaker 12: Australians have asked themselves, do.
28:08
Speaker 1: They feel safer and do they feel better off.
28:10
Speaker 12: After two and a half years of Anthony Albanezy and
28:13
Speaker 12: the overwhelming answer that is no, they don't.
28:15
Speaker 1: They're paying more.
28:17
Speaker 12: We don't feel safer because they've led again with what's
28:21
Speaker 12: happening on the streets of Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. The
28:24
Speaker 12: ideology of what's happening in the Middle East permeate here
28:28
Speaker 12: into Australia. When what we should do is get back
28:30
Speaker 12: to first principles. Every Australian should ask themselves if those
28:33
Speaker 12: terror attacks happened in Australia on the seventh of October,
28:37
Speaker 12: that happened in Israel, what would they expect.
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Speaker 1: The Australian government to do.
28:41
Speaker 12: They would expect their government to pursue those terrorist organizations
28:46
Speaker 12: to any part of the planet and destroy them to
28:50
Speaker 12: keep their people safe.
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Speaker 1: That's what Israel has done.
28:54
Speaker 12: And when you get to the essence of what's happened
28:56
Speaker 12: is we've stood up for those principles of freedom and
28:59
Speaker 12: safe and peace loving people that have come to this
29:02
Speaker 12: country to escape the Middle East to have that here.
29:05
Speaker 12: But then when you get to the cost of living
29:06
Speaker 12: crisis about sensible energy policy, that'll feed into lower food prices,
29:12
Speaker 12: but also sensible immigration policy, not by cutting it, but
29:15
Speaker 12: by bringing those determining. We should determine who comes to
29:18
Speaker 12: this country, the skills they have, and where we want
29:20
Speaker 12: them to live. We've got a housing crisis and we
29:23
Speaker 12: should give hope to Australinge they can own a home
29:25
Speaker 12: because we're going to bring the best and bryers here
29:27
Speaker 12: to solve our problems, not care in a corner like
29:30
Speaker 12: Anthony Albernez.
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Speaker 1: He's done for two and a half years.
29:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, David little Proud, thank you very much
29:35
Speaker 2: for joining me today National's Leader on the one year
29:37
Speaker 2: anniversary of the Voice defeat. Now, after the break, I'll
29:41
Speaker 2: show you extraordinary footage of Hezbola weapons and tunnels just
29:45
Speaker 2: meters from United Nations outposts. How can the international community
29:50
Speaker 2: possibly defend this? And a high profile human rights lawyer
29:53
Speaker 2: would join me to speak about this from Israel next,
29:57
Speaker 2: plus a Labor and Peace office viciously andalyzed by Hamas supporters.
30:02
Speaker 2: As anti Semitism continues to explode, we'll look at that
30:05
Speaker 2: shocking example, and Cameron Milner will be on the show
30:09
Speaker 2: to speak about how he thinks the Prime minister is
30:12
Speaker 2: running a clown show for a government. Stay tuned, Welcome
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Speaker 2: back well. Greg Sheridan wrote a brilliant column on the
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Speaker 2: weekend where he spoke about how Israel is fighting a
30:27
Speaker 2: just and moral war and how it needs out support.
30:31
Speaker 2: Sheridan wrote that Penny One keeps implying that Israel is
30:35
Speaker 2: breaking into national law when all evidence points to the contrary.
30:39
Speaker 2: He writes that she fraudulently implies that Israel has prevented
30:44
Speaker 2: the establishment of a Palestinian state, even though this isn't
30:47
Speaker 2: the case and the UN provided for one seventy seven
30:51
Speaker 2: years ago. Greg Sheridan writes it three times since then,
30:55
Speaker 2: Israel has offered a Palestinian state on generous terms, only
30:59
Speaker 2: to be met by rejection and murderous terrorism. Several times
31:04
Speaker 2: in its short existence, Israel has had to fight conventional
31:08
Speaker 2: wars of national survival, as in the Yom Kippur War
31:12
Speaker 2: of seventy three, and now Iran, five minutes away from
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Speaker 2: possessing nuclear weapons, proclaims its sacred mission of wiping Israel
31:20
Speaker 2: off the map while organizing terror and missile strikes from
31:24
Speaker 2: every point on Israel's border. Now I highly recommend you
31:29
Speaker 2: read Greg Sheridan's brilliance there for this calms as evidence
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Speaker 2: has emerged of Hesbela tunnels and infrastructure in the close
31:37
Speaker 2: vicinity of the United Nations, around one hundred meters or
31:42
Speaker 2: so away from a UN peacekeeping observation post. The terrorists
31:46
Speaker 2: were building tunnels, storing weapons, and using it as a
31:50
Speaker 2: base to attack Israel. Have a look at this vision.
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Speaker 13: This is one of seven hundred Hesba drop points, twenty
32:11
Speaker 13: five trails in this area three hundred meters from the
32:14
Speaker 13: border where Hisbala has built small bases. Really, you see
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Speaker 13: here explosive devices, You've got boots, got helmets, all the
32:23
Speaker 13: equipment that you need if you are preparing to invade
32:27
Speaker 13: the Israeli border.
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Speaker 2: It's extraordinary. After the Second Lebanon War in two thousand
32:33
Speaker 2: and six, the United Nations Resolution seventeen oh one decreed
32:37
Speaker 2: that Hesbela needed to stay north of the Leashani River.
32:41
Speaker 2: It also needed to demilitarize southern Lebanon. The United Nations
32:46
Speaker 2: never enforced this, never, so it's been left to Israel
32:50
Speaker 2: to now deal with. And yet the international community call
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Speaker 2: for Israel to stop defending and protecting its own citizens
32:58
Speaker 2: and have a ceasefire well, let's cross now live now
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Speaker 2: to tell Aviv, and I'm joined by human rights lawyer
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Speaker 2: and senior fellow at the Misgav Institute for National Security,
33:08
Speaker 2: Arson Ostrovsky. Arson, thank you very much for joining me
33:11
Speaker 2: on the show. I want to get your commentary on this.
33:15
Speaker 2: On these Hesbela weapons found so close to you and outposts,
33:20
Speaker 2: what were the United Nations officials actually doing?
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Speaker 10: Look but you and officials were simply doing nothing. But
33:28
Speaker 10: you know, we need to put this in context as well.
33:30
Speaker 10: You know, just before coming on air, has Bala Terrace
33:33
Speaker 10: firing from southern Lebanon right under the noses of the
33:36
Speaker 10: uniform soldiers, rain down rockets on central Israel before that
33:40
Speaker 10: earlier this morning, and also rain rockets down on northern Israel,
33:43
Speaker 10: including Hi. Today some almost been million or so Israelis
33:48
Speaker 10: have been in bomb shelters and in the line of
33:51
Speaker 10: fire from Hesbeala rockets. That's about one fifth of the population,
33:54
Speaker 10: one fifth of Australia's population. To put this in context,
33:57
Speaker 10: it's about five and a bit million people. That is
34:00
Speaker 10: the entire population of Sydney. Now we have to understand
34:04
Speaker 10: that has Balo is not like the Lashnami. It has
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Speaker 10: Ballet's a gin, a subtle terrorist organization sworn to Israel's
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Speaker 10: destruction that acts at the behest of the running regime,
34:13
Speaker 10: that fired over ten thousand rockets, missiles, suicide drones. Almost
34:18
Speaker 10: sixty people have been either murdered or killed in one
34:20
Speaker 10: hundred thousand have been displaced from their homes. Australia certainly
34:23
Speaker 10: wouldn't put up with us, and quite frankly, nor can
34:26
Speaker 10: Israel or any other serve nation.
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Speaker 2: Now you know our political situation very well here in
34:31
Speaker 2: Australia because you used to live in Australia.
34:34
Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Penny Wong has claimed that Israel has targeted
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Speaker 2: So she's saying Israel is deliberately targeting un personnel. That's
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Speaker 2: not what's happening at all, is it?
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Speaker 1: No, not at all.
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Speaker 10: Quite frankly, that's an outrageous the lie in a gross
34:53
Speaker 10: of true Israel is targeting solely has Balah targets, but
34:57
Speaker 10: has Balah just like Hamas, is committing a double crime.
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Speaker 10: They're embedding themselves in Sevilian areas including homes, schools, hospitals, mosques,
35:06
Speaker 10: whilst using their own people cynically as human shields. Whilst
35:09
Speaker 10: in discriminately buying at Israel. No country could possibly tolerate
35:14
Speaker 10: this North Israel. So for miss Wong to say that
35:19
Speaker 10: Israel is intentionally targeting anyone but terrorist targets is quite
35:23
Speaker 10: frankly outrageous and a lie.
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Speaker 1: Israel is gone.
35:26
Speaker 10: Israel has gone and continues to go as it has
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Speaker 10: in Gaza, just as it is now in levet Onto,
35:33
Speaker 10: lengths not seen in the history of modern warfare, to
35:36
Speaker 10: abide by principles of international law and to avoid any
35:39
Speaker 10: harm to civilians.
35:42
Speaker 2: Arson further evidence overnight that Tehran was in part behind
35:46
Speaker 2: the October seven attacks, the IDF discovering documents which suggest
35:51
Speaker 2: that around began funding the harmas October seven attack as
35:54
Speaker 2: early as twenty twenty one. This shows that ultimately the
36:00
Speaker 2: international community, whether they like it or not, is going
36:03
Speaker 2: to have to deal with the nuclear weapons program that
36:06
Speaker 2: Iran is developing.
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Speaker 10: Look absolutely, Iran is not some kind of passive actor here.
36:13
Speaker 10: Iran is the one that is calling the shots. Iran
36:16
Speaker 10: is supporting these proxy terrorast groups including Hasbal and Hamaspertofim.
36:21
Speaker 10: By the way, when it's also recognized that designated terror
36:24
Speaker 10: groups in Australia, but not only that, not only are
36:27
Speaker 10: they supplying them with weapons, with training, with funds, with instructions,
36:32
Speaker 10: but they also directly are taking as well. They did
36:35
Speaker 10: so in April this year by firing with three hundred
36:37
Speaker 10: missiles and rockets, and of course just the other week
36:40
Speaker 10: when they ran down over one hundred and eighty ballistic missiles,
36:43
Speaker 10: setting the entire the entire country into bomb shelter. So
36:47
Speaker 10: certainly you know the you know this is you look
36:49
Speaker 10: at this like a lack an octopus, and it is
36:51
Speaker 10: Iran ahead of the octopus.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right, and yet everyone just wants to
36:56
Speaker 2: put their head in the sands. They want to cease fire,
36:58
Speaker 2: they want to let around contry you to develop the
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Speaker 2: nuclear programs. I mean, the Americans, I'm worried more about
37:04
Speaker 2: the US election than they are about actually dealing with
37:07
Speaker 2: this threat, which is a threat to all of us
37:09
Speaker 2: around the world, including in Australia, if God forbid, Iran
37:13
Speaker 2: would develop a nuclear bump A right, Arsenostrowsky. Great to
37:17
Speaker 2: have you on the show again. Thank you now after
37:20
Speaker 2: the break, Labor politician Peter Khalil's Melbourne office vandalized by
37:24
Speaker 2: Hamas supporters. Plus why Labor is looking more and more
37:28
Speaker 2: like a clown show. Cameron Milner with his scathing review
37:32
Speaker 2: and concern in Kamala Harris's camp about her inability to
37:36
Speaker 2: conduct even friendly interviews. Meanwhile, Trump is begging for more
37:41
Speaker 2: security amid a third assassination attempt. All of this still
37:45
Speaker 2: coming up. Okay, we're going to get to US politics
37:52
Speaker 2: in a moment, but now let's bring in former chief
37:54
Speaker 2: of staff to Bill Shorten, Cameron Milner, and former Howard
37:58
Speaker 2: advisor David Gazzaar And welcome to you both, And by
38:02
Speaker 2: Carmeron Milner, you have written another scathing piece on the
38:06
Speaker 2: Albanezy government. You're comparing the Prime Minister and labor to
38:10
Speaker 2: a circus. You write that we are led through another
38:13
Speaker 2: election campaign with Albow leading a clown show, firmly in
38:18
Speaker 2: his own image. You wonder what did Labor voters do
38:22
Speaker 2: to deserve this? So Cameron, talk us through why you're
38:25
Speaker 2: saying that this government is basically a circus and a
38:29
Speaker 2: clown show.
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Speaker 7: Well, just look at how bad they are, Shari.
38:34
Speaker 14: I mean, if you didn't know good cry, you have
38:36
Speaker 14: to laugh.
38:36
Speaker 7: And just how bad they are, and how Albo.
38:39
Speaker 14: This hit the helm of this He's running a three
38:41
Speaker 14: ring circus and he's the chief clown, chief clown.
38:44
Speaker 7: It's terrible, Shari. It's terrible for.
38:46
Speaker 14: Labor voters, terrible for Labour people to see just how
38:49
Speaker 14: bad this government really is.
38:50
Speaker 7: And you see Albow out there.
38:52
Speaker 14: You know, there's happy Albow when he's getting free tickets
38:54
Speaker 14: from Tato. This sad Albow when his voice didn't get up.
38:57
Speaker 14: Sixty percent of Australians voted down and it's part time Albow.
39:00
Speaker 14: He turned up for three days, so Parliament's that for
39:03
Speaker 14: three days. He turned up for one and a half
39:04
Speaker 14: days in a whole month. What a joke, What a face,
39:07
Speaker 14: what a circus.
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Speaker 2: David Gazarre, we're seeing Newspole. We've been talking about it
39:12
Speaker 2: on the show tonight. You know, Newspoll. Coalition ahead for
39:15
Speaker 2: the first time, David Gazard. Do you think voters across
39:20
Speaker 2: Australia are starting to see what the Prime Minister's like?
39:24
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's you know, there's no doubt about that.
39:27
Speaker 4: And that's been happening now for the last twelve months.
39:30
Speaker 4: Until we see the combination of that today with News
39:34
Speaker 4: poll where finally the polls across so the coalition leads
39:39
Speaker 4: on a two pp basis that unleashes all the animal
39:43
Speaker 4: spirits of politics when that occurs. I've been in that
39:46
Speaker 4: situation myself where it's gone against the government which I
39:50
Speaker 4: work for with John Howard. It is tough to get back,
39:54
Speaker 4: and as Cameron notes, there is no sign that this
39:57
Speaker 4: administration is capable of pulling that back. The government looks
40:02
Speaker 4: adrift and every time Anthony Alberanezi pops up, it's sort
40:07
Speaker 4: of selling a message that the electric aren't interested in
40:12
Speaker 4: and that sort of cuts against their chief concern of
40:15
Speaker 4: cost of living.
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Speaker 2: And we're not seeing much from the Prime Minister, are
40:20
Speaker 2: we on cost of living? Cameron?
40:24
Speaker 14: No, And it's been an anis horribulous for him, and
40:26
Speaker 14: he started by losing the voice and now he's losing
40:28
Speaker 14: the vote. Shari, I mean, this guy doesn't have a
40:30
Speaker 14: clue how to lead his way out of a wet
40:32
Speaker 14: paper bag, let alone deal with the cost of living issue.
40:36
Speaker 14: He's off frolicking around the world on lobsters rather than
40:39
Speaker 14: dealing with bread and butter family table issues which Australians
40:43
Speaker 14: are crying out for leadership on. So that's why he's
40:45
Speaker 14: so down in the polls. I'm sure his poll bounced
40:48
Speaker 14: around a bit, David, but I think the trend is
40:50
Speaker 14: Dutton's friend and it's all bad and all one way
40:53
Speaker 14: traffic for labor.
40:55
Speaker 2: Cameron, I've got to remind everyone at home that you
40:57
Speaker 2: are a labor insider. You were state director in Queensland,
41:01
Speaker 2: Bill Shotton's chief of staff. I just want to quickly
41:03
Speaker 2: ask you, isn't your sense that there are some labor
41:06
Speaker 2: and pas getting nervous about the next election and Albo's leadership.
41:12
Speaker 14: And not only labor MPs. There are rank and file members,
41:16
Speaker 14: there are union leaders. There are greats like Paul Keating
41:19
Speaker 14: and Bill Kelty or calling this out.
41:21
Speaker 7: I mean this is not unique.
41:23
Speaker 14: Labour people are desperately worried that labor first term government
41:27
Speaker 14: is going to be flushed down the toilet because of
41:29
Speaker 14: what's being done here.
41:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's have a look at Labor
41:33
Speaker 2: MPP to Khalil, he's a federal MP. He's become the
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Speaker 2: latest target of a vicious vandal attack by Hamas supporters.
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Speaker 2: His Melbourne office has actually been spray painted with that
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Speaker 2: inverted red triangle dowsed in an unknown substance. It's said
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Speaker 2: to have a horrific stench. David Gazard. Peter Khalil isn't Jewish,
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Speaker 2: but he has been a moderate voice of reason and
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Speaker 2: this is how he's targeted.
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Speaker 4: And he also occupies the seat of Wills, which the
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Speaker 4: Greens would like to dearly win off the Labor Party,
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Speaker 4: and the Greens have been very very strident in there
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Speaker 4: in their cause to support Hamas and Hesbalah and have
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Speaker 4: been very very anti Israel. That that that's all fine,
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Speaker 4: you can have your views, but what we're seeing here
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Speaker 4: is a breakdown of law and order.
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Speaker 1: There are there are cries for.
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Speaker 4: Ethnic cleansing and genocide in Australia's streets now brought in
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Speaker 4: by people under our immigration policies, a far cry from
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Speaker 4: sort of the the country we know and love, and
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Speaker 4: I think most Australians would be puzzled, concerned and worried
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Speaker 4: about that. But we're now bumping up against the obligation
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Speaker 4: of people to abide.
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Speaker 1: By the rule of law.
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Speaker 4: This is vandalism, it's intimidation and it's time for the
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Speaker 4: police force to act on it. It's just simply not
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Speaker 4: good enough that a member of Parliament is sort of
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Speaker 4: being bullied and his offers vandalized and there's never there's
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Speaker 4: never any action against the perpetrators.
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if there have been arrests for this
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Speaker 2: kind of behavior, because we've seen a lot of it
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Speaker 2: now against MP's officers, then we're not hearing about those arrests. Cameron.
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Speaker 2: What worries me is this, when you look at the
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Speaker 2: news websites today, it's just another news article, as if
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Speaker 2: it's perfectly normal that a politician's office should be targeted.
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Speaker 2: It is intimidation, like David said, and it is scary, and.
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Speaker 14: I couldn't agree more with David. I mean, I think
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Speaker 14: we're at a juncture point in society. I mean, for
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Speaker 14: goodness sake, the red triangle is a Hamas terrorist symbol.
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Speaker 14: Play and simple, plain and simple. It's appearing on MP's doors,
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Speaker 14: it's appearing on our Federal Parliament, it's appearing on professor's
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Speaker 14: doors and universities. And yet Albo and everyone is let's
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Speaker 14: all slide, let's all go through, doesn't want to call
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Speaker 14: it out. It needs to be called out, and we
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Speaker 14: need to hall terrorism for what it is, and we
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Speaker 14: need to call out these people and detain them if
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Speaker 14: we need to be.
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Speaker 2: To port them exactly. And by the way, David Khalil
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Speaker 2: is the Envoy for Social Cohesion in the federal government,
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Speaker 2: and like I said, he is a sensible and moderate voice.
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Speaker 2: He's one of the good guys. All right, Cara Milna,
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Speaker 2: David Gazzard, appreciate both of your thoughts tonight, and we'll
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Speaker 2: check out your piece Cameron on the Nightly. Now still
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Speaker 2: to come, a third assassination attempt on Donald Trump's life
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Speaker 2: raises questions about his security. Why does he have to
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Speaker 2: beg for more security? I have more on that next,
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Speaker 2: Plus Kamala Harris caught out in friendly interviews and sixty
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Speaker 2: minutes faces accusations that it may have protected the VP.
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Speaker 2: All of that coming up after this quick break. All right,
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Speaker 2: let's turn to the United States now, where police have
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Speaker 2: thwarted a third assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Van Miller
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Speaker 2: was arrested by local police outside a Trump rally in California.
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Speaker 2: He was caught allegedly trying to enter with loaded guns
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Speaker 2: and a fake press pass. Let's bringing now Sky News
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Speaker 2: contributed Kosher Gata Kosher. He has denied he was planning
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Speaker 2: any assassination attempt. But I think the main issue here
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Speaker 2: that Trump has been asking just for the same level
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Speaker 2: of security as Joe Biden, and given they have now
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Speaker 2: been three attempts on his life, surely this is the
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Speaker 2: responsibility to give him maximum security.
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Speaker 11: Yes, as you mentioned, there are some conflicting reports about this.
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Speaker 11: The sheriff who apprehended him or his team is on
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Speaker 11: record saying they believe that they did foil a third
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Speaker 11: assassination attempt. The Secret Service and the FBI put out
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Speaker 11: a statement a short time ago saying they don't believe
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Speaker 11: it was an assassination attempt because this person was apprehended
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Speaker 11: without incident. But you're absolutely right about the macro picture.
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Speaker 11: I will say, on the positive side, you can see
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Speaker 11: a little bit of an improvement from Butler, where he
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Speaker 11: was within millions of his life to at the golf
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Speaker 11: course where the Secret Service apprehended and somebody who breached
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Speaker 11: the perimeter, and then here this person was at least
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Speaker 11: taken out before he came into the perimeter. But yeah,
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Speaker 11: I mean, this does not give people confidence broadly speaking,
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Speaker 11: because we've never had three attempts. The last time we've
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Speaker 11: had an attempt on a president was forty years ago
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Speaker 11: for Ronald Reagan. And it's a reminder of how high
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Speaker 11: the stakes are in this election and they should be
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Speaker 11: doing everything in the book at the security around Trump,
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Speaker 11: and I'm not sure people are confident that that's happening.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think there are serious concerns that there might
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Speaker 2: be another attempt in the next twenty two days now.
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Speaker 2: CBS News facing calls to release the full unedited transcript
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Speaker 2: of its sixty minutes interview with Kamala Harris after it aired.
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Speaker 2: Two different answers have a look.
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Speaker 7: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanya who is not listening.
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Speaker 10: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for
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Speaker 10: the United States to be clear about where we stand
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Speaker 10: on the need for this ward end Kosha.
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Speaker 2: Her original answer was reportedly much longer.
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Speaker 11: Yes, it was. And I think CBS has found itself
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Speaker 11: in a little bit of a firestorm here because they
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Speaker 11: as of this hour, have refused to release the full
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Speaker 11: unedited transcript and there is precedent of that. They've done
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Speaker 11: it before with other candidates, including Trump when they interviewed
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Speaker 11: him last time in twenty twenty, but they don't do it,
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Speaker 11: and it does, I think call into question their journalistic
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Speaker 11: standards a little bit, and it doesn't help come I
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Speaker 11: think because she has this perception. She's created this perception
47:38
Speaker 11: where she's sort of the stage managed candidate and only
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Speaker 11: does friendly media. It's always highly produced and she doesn't
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Speaker 11: step into adversarial press pools or do any sort of
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Speaker 11: press conferences. So I don't think this is actually helping
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Speaker 11: her shake that image. It's just going to reinforce it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you mentioned, you know, even in friendly interviews,
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Speaker 2: she has been accused of struggling with those. There was
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Speaker 2: this example. You might have seen this already, but if
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Speaker 2: not here it is where she was on the view
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Speaker 2: if anything, would you have done something differently than President
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Speaker 2: Biden during the past four years? There is done a
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Speaker 2: thing that comes to mind and kosher here. Of course,
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Speaker 2: the issue is that, you know, what is the difference
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Speaker 2: between her between what she's offering as potential president and
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Speaker 2: the Biden administration. How can she not answer that softball question?
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Speaker 11: Yes, that is the one question that she should be
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Speaker 11: prepared for. Everybody gets that question when you're running as
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Speaker 11: the VP, the second in command, coming in at a
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Speaker 11: time when the majority of the country thinks the country
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Speaker 11: is on the wrong track. They're not happy with the
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Speaker 11: results in the performance of the country under the previous administration.
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Speaker 11: She absolutely should know that the answer to that question,
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Speaker 11: and it was quite stunning when you think about it,
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Speaker 11: where it just sounded like it didn't even occur to
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Speaker 11: her and she just on the fly was saying, oh, well,
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Speaker 11: nothing comes to mind. And it was a huge miss
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Speaker 11: opportunity by her, and the Trump campaign wasted no time
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Speaker 11: turning it into an ad where they just play that
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Speaker 11: on loop with Donald Trump's voice saying I'm Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: Improved this message. Yeah. Look, And there are concerns among
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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party, definitely the Democrat media that she might
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Speaker 2: be losing momentum as well, given she hasn't managed to
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Speaker 2: outline any vision for what her presidency would look like.
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Speaker 11: Yes, I think all the poll is tightening. There's been
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Speaker 11: leaks of internal polls, which is the really good stuff,
49:31
Speaker 11: the professional pollsters that the campaigns pay and commission. They're
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Speaker 11: much better quality polls than the public stuff that we
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Speaker 11: see on the outside. And it's definitely tightening. The fact
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Speaker 11: that she's doing this media blitz, which is a departure
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Speaker 11: from where she started her campaign, I think is a
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Speaker 11: signal about that. But I still say, don't be fooled.
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Speaker 11: This is a very very tight race, and notwithstanding all
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Speaker 11: of that, it could honestly go either way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll follow it closely over the next few weeks.
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Speaker 2: All right, Kosha Dada, thank you so much for joining me,
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Speaker 2: and that's it for me again. Good to see you
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Speaker 2: back from Israel. I'll be here again tomorrow at eight o'clock.
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