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Paul's back...Donna calls; We talk driverless Teslas and the Kia Tasman towing fail · The Driver's Show

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  Speaker 1: This is gonna look so good on my tinder. The
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  Speaker 1: Driver's Show with Paul Marrick and Gordy Waters. So everyone's
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  Speaker 1: been wondering where Paul is and the Melbourne Gangland Wars
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  Speaker 1: have got him. He's been masheddied up.
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  Speaker 3: All I did was try to open a tobacco store. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: here we are.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you've got a couple of fire bombs, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of our cocktail bombs thrown in. Do you know
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  Speaker 1: that happens regularly at a place right up the road
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  Speaker 1: from me. You can tell this guy, this guy, this
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  Speaker 1: guy is clearly not playing ball with the with the
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  Speaker 1: cigarette mafia. And he's like, you know, no, no, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna do by the real deal, and
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  Speaker 1: the bikes and whatever are just like.
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  Speaker 2: See up, we don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like once a month this poor bastard shop windows
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  Speaker 1: get smashed in.
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  Speaker 3: We we actually, I know there's had nothing to do
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  Speaker 3: with cars. But where we used to live in South Melbourne,
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  Speaker 3: they popped up a tobacco store. I'm like, oh, you're
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  Speaker 3: you're fucked.
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  Speaker 1: Which whereabouts was that one?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: There was one that had a car driven through it
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  Speaker 3: and then set on fire. This was a different one,
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  Speaker 3: but straight after it opened, was that.
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  Speaker 1: The Clarendon That was the one on Clarendon in New
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  Speaker 1: York Street. Yeah, but this is a different one because
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  Speaker 1: that building. Yeah my dad, yeah yeah, he coming back,
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  Speaker 1: coming back to collect some debt. Yeah. It's all LinkedIn
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  Speaker 1: with the Mercedes bends.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Now so straight after.
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  Speaker 3: These guys opened, they installed like military grade ballards bars
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  Speaker 3: on all the windows, shutters just to sell a pack
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  Speaker 3: of smokes. Lovely so anyway, yeah, but yeah, how good
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  Speaker 3: is Victoria?
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  Speaker 2: Victoria is?
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  Speaker 1: It is?
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  Speaker 3: It has gone downhill, like you wouldn't believe. There's taxes
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  Speaker 3: on everything. Crime is completely out of control. If the
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  Speaker 3: police aren't busy doing a protest, they're searching for a
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  Speaker 3: guy in the forest. They just do not have time
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  Speaker 3: to actually do any actual police work anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It feels weird as an outsider looking in and someone
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  Speaker 1: who grew up in Melbourne, someone who's still kind of
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  Speaker 1: considered it home. It's so weird to watch just the
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  Speaker 1: decline from from COVID with old mate Dan Andrews to
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, what a fucking debarcle that was? How
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  Speaker 1: is he?
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  Speaker 2: And this is now completely off carspic.
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  Speaker 1: In case you've just joined us, this is what really
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  Speaker 1: grunds your gears with Gordon Pavli.
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  Speaker 2: How was he in the picture with Kim johng wound.
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  Speaker 1: So fitting gee putin?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like you, mate, you do not care, you just
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  Speaker 3: have He's.
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  Speaker 1: Just lost the plight, hasn't he. He is a piece
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  Speaker 1: of fucking work. Yeah anyway, Yeah? Is he a member
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  Speaker 1: of the Portsa Golf Club?
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  Speaker 3: Yet not anymore?
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  Speaker 2: My mate Steve Price fixed that up.
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  Speaker 1: Good, good on him. Have you been, in the words
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  Speaker 1: of mister g where have you been, bitch? Where have
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  Speaker 1: you bloody been?
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  Speaker 3: Here, there and everywhere? And we're going to be talking
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  Speaker 3: about one particular thing today, which is a tesla drove
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  Speaker 3: me around on its own. H. I only had to
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  Speaker 3: intervene a couple of times, but drove me around on
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  Speaker 3: its own. So we'll talk about that happened. That was
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  Speaker 3: on the streets of Melbourne Brisbane. Ah.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to say, you could have run into
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  Speaker 1: a couple of gangs or something, the.
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  Speaker 2: Lines, the jacks, the gypsies. But yeah, I've been there.
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  Speaker 3: I went to China, did I've just been everywhere a
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  Speaker 3: lot and just haven't had time to do a podcast
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  Speaker 3: with you. But I thought Steph did a great job.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor not so much.
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  Speaker 2: Look, it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: But can I just tell you something Trevor didn't do
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  Speaker 1: actually when he was on the episode. Just give it
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  Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, that's silence. Fucking couldn't do it. I
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  Speaker 1: just couldn't stop fucking talking.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: There was there's actually a moment you can hear in
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  Speaker 1: that episode where I just gave up, and it's about
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  Speaker 1: two minutes in.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I usually thought it was a really good episode,
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  Speaker 3: so I know you didn't think that, but I thought
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  Speaker 3: it was great.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, trev the problem is, trev is
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  Speaker 1: looking really thin now and he's looking good, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't have much to tease him about because I'm now
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  Speaker 1: the fattest.
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  Speaker 3: Ship in the room. How that chair is buckling?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? You know who I reckons in danger Eddie McGuire's
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  Speaker 1: neck because it looks like it's hiding under my chin.
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  Speaker 2: I just think any.
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  Speaker 3: Of those you know, moms with eight kids who win
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  Speaker 3: a cherry on the Today Show, if trev just he will,
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  Speaker 3: he will ravish them.
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  Speaker 1: Come and see the real fucking key carnival, Carnival in
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  Speaker 1: my pants, fucking up it's room right, Oh good, but
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Trevor for fucking long. What a what a debacle
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  Speaker 1: that was? But yeah, look he's he's trimmed up, he's
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  Speaker 1: looking good. He won't shut up, and yeah he's sort
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  Speaker 1: of yeah yeah, he's definitely like like king of the
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood Moms. Now, like you can just tell he'd go
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  Speaker 1: down to the soccer practice and like and troll for pulse.
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  Speaker 1: He just totally would near the tuck shop.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway. So what else has been happening? Oh the bloody
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  Speaker 1: A couple of cars that I've been driving. Let's let's
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  Speaker 1: do a bit of back and forth. So I got
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  Speaker 1: my hands on a care tasmin.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, m it's something.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a big girl. It's a big girl.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, donnad could sleep in the back. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's how big it is. That's like Donna Dad Trey.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Jesus, like the where the headlights are it looks like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that looks like Donna's side under tit just that real
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  Speaker 5: Wooby Goldberg style tit just come go and like you
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  Speaker 5: go and give.
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  Speaker 1: Her a nipple cripple. But you're sort of somewhere near
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  Speaker 1: the side nipple gribbler.
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  Speaker 3: At a backscrap, so they both happened at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me exherded Pavly. The design.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I said this in my video.
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  Speaker 3: And people were, no, you're just on the tank from Gia.
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  Speaker 2: The design.
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  Speaker 3: I don't personally like it, but styling is subjective. People
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  Speaker 3: will either love it or hate it. And in our
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  Speaker 3: comments on the video.
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  Speaker 1: It's genuinely fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 2: There are fifty.
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  Speaker 3: Percent of people who love the design and fifty percent
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  Speaker 3: who hate it. And to me, it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: care what you buy. If you I'm telling you what
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  Speaker 3: it's like from a analytical point of view, what it's
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  Speaker 3: like to drive and operate as a dual cab. You
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  Speaker 3: the design and couldn't really give a shit about The
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  Speaker 3: only comment I had on the design was that the
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  Speaker 3: position of the headlights will make it tricky for anyone
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  Speaker 3: that does proper off roading because you're going to smash
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  Speaker 3: the shit out of those things on errand branches and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: But outside of that, car's fine.
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  Speaker 3: We actually just it's going live tomorrow as we record this,
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  Speaker 3: but we'll be live by the time you hear it.
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  Speaker 2: We publish a towing video, and it's not great at towing.
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  Speaker 3: We had a lot of issues with the stability control
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  Speaker 3: just randomly coming on when it was driving. The brake
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  Speaker 3: controller causes the brake lights to flash on a million
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  Speaker 3: miles an hour randomly. There's just a couple of things
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  Speaker 3: that they really should have ironed out during the engineering
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  Speaker 3: process that they clearly have just totally.
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  Speaker 1: Missed, especially when this car. There's a lot of eyes
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  Speaker 1: on this car, and there's a lot of critical noise
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  Speaker 1: about it as well. They really kind of should have
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  Speaker 1: dived into that. The towing is bad news. But yeah, look,
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  Speaker 1: I mean this is day two. I can barely really
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  Speaker 1: talk about much, but the interior is nice. Interior is fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine, it's fine. Do you know what I found
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  Speaker 1: weird in the interior. There's several reminders to tell you
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  Speaker 1: how big the car is. Like if you look at
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  Speaker 1: like there's this weird sort of tray in the Senate console,
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  Speaker 1: then you lift the lid up of the Senate console
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  Speaker 1: and it's under that as well.
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  Speaker 3: So they've kind of copied Ram. Ram does that with
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  Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred and other RAM models. Problem with all
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  Speaker 3: of that is that it doesn't take into account like
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  Speaker 3: if you get the toe kit, you've a toebar sticks
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  Speaker 3: out which extends the length of the vehicle. If you
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  Speaker 3: get a bullbar, it changes the length of the vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: If you get different tires, it's no longer the same height.
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  Speaker 2: You got a lift kit. It's so it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: a weird thing to have.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like it's more of an aesthetic, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest, I honestly do I think the inside's like nice,
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  Speaker 1: it's good. I mean it's you're looking at, say the
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  Speaker 1: interior of the BYD Shark, which I think is better.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Well, which variant you're driving tasman X Pro yep,
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  Speaker 3: that's the top spec, so yes, because it's.
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  Speaker 1: Got the little tray, the little Heidi hole above the
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  Speaker 1: wheel arch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The other thing as well is that that also,
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  Speaker 3: just from a technical standpoint, everything but the x Pro
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  Speaker 3: has a manually locking rear diff. Everything else has an
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  Speaker 3: auto locking rear diff, which I think is just the
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  Speaker 3: worst creation ever to exist on a dual cab that
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  Speaker 3: you want to go off roading, because it will wait
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  Speaker 3: for a delta in wheel speed on the rear axle
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  Speaker 3: and then it will just lock the rear diff just
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  Speaker 3: out of nowhere, and it can become really problematic if
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  Speaker 3: it snaps sideways on you and you're not expecting it.
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  Speaker 2: Why there isn't just a button is just so strange.
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  Speaker 3: It must be a cost saving thing, because I cannot
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  Speaker 3: think of any positive reason you would not have a
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  Speaker 3: button to lock the rear diff.
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  Speaker 1: And it's pretty like commonplace too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that one also, The top Speck also has
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  Speaker 3: the speed variable hill descent and ascent. The rest of
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  Speaker 3: them just have a standard hill descent control. From an
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  Speaker 3: off road perspective, the tasment is excellent based on the
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  Speaker 3: testing we've done, but only in the Xpro because you
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  Speaker 3: step down to the X line. It does weird stuff
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  Speaker 3: like you've got the rear diff that can't be manually locked.
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  Speaker 2: It will change up gears on its own, so if you're.
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  Speaker 3: Doing a hill climb in low range and first gear,
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  Speaker 3: it'll just go here's second for you, and I'm like no,
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  Speaker 3: because it will just stop your movement entirely and like
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  Speaker 3: send you backwards. It is stuff like that. I just
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  Speaker 3: find so strange why they've engineered these things. It's really weird.
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  Speaker 1: Have they sort of thought to themselves, we're just going
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  Speaker 1: to classify the X Pro as the only four wheel
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  Speaker 1: drive going car.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's just a weird thing on a seventy something
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars car.
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  Speaker 2: And it is bloody expensive.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: It's actually the same or slightly more expensive than a
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: V six Ford range of WildTrack.
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  Speaker 2: So you're getting and.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting more, you're getting more in that's just getting.
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  Speaker 3: A much better engine for towing and doing all the
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: other stuff you need to do. But in saying that,
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: the engine is actually far punchier than the numbers would suggest.
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: Because it's on paper it should be not that great,
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  Speaker 3: but I found it to be pretty good, with the
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  Speaker 3: only real downside being the gearbox.
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  Speaker 2: It hunts a lot.
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  Speaker 3: And the reason they've done that is because it's down
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  Speaker 3: on talk and if they basically have a hyperactive gearbox,
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  Speaker 3: it feels more responsive to the driver because it's always
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  Speaker 3: in the right gear. Had they not have had that,
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  Speaker 3: you'd be constantly trying to lean on the talk band
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  Speaker 3: to get it to move, or slipping back through gears,
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  Speaker 3: which would become problematic if you're trying to move fast.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's it'll be interesting to see how this sells, and
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  Speaker 1: I know they obviously want to move units. I found
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  Speaker 1: it interesting when Steph Coombs came in here and she
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  Speaker 1: was at the launch. They were aiming somewhere about being
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: number four in the market, which I find a weird
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: place to be. They reckon their main competition is the
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: B White Shark. I'm like, well, okay, you're looking at
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: a car that's probably obviously not going to toe with
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: the Shark. Different Yeah, yeah, it was a weird one.
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  Speaker 1: The Shark is far cheaper.
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  Speaker 3: It's yeah, I don't know, it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 3: how it goes out.
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  Speaker 1: And they've put what they've done to is they've put
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money in this car and marketing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I mean, like, not not just into the
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: actual car, but into the marketing of the car. Like
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: the launches were nuts. Steph was saying she went to
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: the launch where they did like Tasmin Town or something,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it took over a town. Yeah. Yeah,
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: I think a football player cupped her on the tit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure he was paid to do that. I'm
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: just throwing around allegation. She's gonna kill me, I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, they've put a lot of money into this
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  Speaker 1: thing and it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So yeah, I was just a random other thing
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  Speaker 3: as well, because we had nothing to do on a Saturday.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: That sounds like it's like a pretty normal weekend here.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Melbourne four by four show was on and I said
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: to my brothers, we take the kids. And my daughter's four,
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: his kids are four and six. They thought it was
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: like a show like the circus where things happen. So
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: the first mistake is we took kids because when we
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: got there, like, oh, when when's the show on? And
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, we're at the show. It's all these stationary
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: things here and.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: All these old people Jinasa, So that was a bit grim,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: but it was where are the monster Track's dad? No, No,
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: this is like it's just a big, full driving stand.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: It stands there and we just look at it and
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  Speaker 1: we talk about me and your uncle get together and
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: we bitch about your mum.
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  Speaker 2: I was and thank you.
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  Speaker 3: To everyone that said hello to me. It was viewers.
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  Speaker 1: At celebrity, but it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was incredible. It was jam packed. I didn't expect
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: it to be this busy. It was completely chockers. But
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: the amount of interest and activity in this space is
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: on another planet and you can see why AARB is
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: making so much money. They had at the ABS stand,
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: they literally had like ten tables where they were doing
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: quoting and every single seat was full with a line,
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: so you would sit down.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Get a quote, fear full drive based on stuff you'd seen.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Seen it their stand and scheduling to pay for it
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: and get it fitted, and every stand had different types
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: of equipment they were doing. I had a four x
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: four show with Lucas who runs the Springs four by
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  Speaker 3: four park, and Mad Matt who also does a whole
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: bunch off roading as well. They were doing some cool
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: stuff at the maxis Mountain or whatever it was called.
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  Speaker 3: So it was really cool to see and highly recommend
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  Speaker 3: going next.
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  Speaker 2: Year and take your kids, ma'am that.
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  Speaker 1: I believe you did that.
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  Speaker 3: That's a rookie era.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe take them out or something after us.
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  Speaker 3: I bought them chips and stuff, so yeah, anyway, you're
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  Speaker 3: a diatass.
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  Speaker 1: Hey. You know what was interesting? I had an m
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: X five and I want to do a quick shout
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: out to Subtle and Masda for this bloody hell. You know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: it's funny because quite often we'll get together and we'll
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: bitch about car dealerships and how the service is going down.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: They were actually really good, so shout out props to
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  Speaker 1: where that is due. They were really nice. But it
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: did get me thinking, it's a how much is the
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: new MX five these days? About sixty roughly?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good question. They used to be like a thirty
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars car.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah not anymore?
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  Speaker 3: How much?
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Does the ask chat GPT car expert Gassost, I'll do
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  Speaker 1: the same, hang on forty three grand.
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  Speaker 3: It starts with for the roads to manual, so that
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  Speaker 3: used to be a thirty something thousand dollars car and
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  Speaker 3: it goes up to fifty two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not for that hard top.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think that's for the soft top. That's the
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: thirty fifth anniversary. This is Riveting Radio. Okay, So the
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  Speaker 3: RF goes up to fifty seven twenty for the top speed.
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  Speaker 1: And then once you get that on the road, that's
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  Speaker 1: about sixty. Yeah, this was a soft top, but I
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: know it was some sort of special edition had the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: extra breaks and some tuning done in an engine fun car.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, right twenty twenty five, if they're
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: still using the little dial.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: For the connect for the thing is gross.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: For the Yeah, for the Apple car Play, and it was.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: It was actually really difficult to do. You can, it's
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: stupid because it's like, once you're parked, you can use
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: it as a touch screen. Yeah, but once you're going
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and you're on the go, you've got to use the
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: stupid toggle, which makes things way more Yeah. And I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: sort of thought, why would anyone buy a brand new one,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: buy one that's two years old or something like that,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the one that's got five ten thousand k's on it.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You're saving an absolute lot of coin and you're getting
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the exact same car. I mean, driving wise, there's no
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: doubt about it. They're an iconic car for a reason,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: but it still drives like a car that was driving
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: like that fifteen years ago. I'd probably get one without
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: all the bullshit because I didn't need it.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, I mean I don't disagree at all. Heaps
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: of people buy them. They say that in the Mustang.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: I saw a graphic that this dude that follows the
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: car market does for Mustang where like in the top
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: five I think markets globally, which is crazy. Yeah, so
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: people love those sort of midlife crisis sports car style
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: things in Australia.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: That's me, Gordon, that is me. Yeah, must The new
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Mustang looks good, looks good. It's expensive, a guzzle fuel,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: fucking who cares? Sounds good, sounds fucking good. And I'm
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: gonna like this is gonna look so good on my Tinder.
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: I'm got a fucking foto with me and my Maustang,
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: and I'm drinking some great Northern and I've got my
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: fucking Monster Energy drink flat cap on and like I've
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: just fucking finished sheet metal at Tafe and I've got
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: my life to get.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Up paid well paid.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I loved, You know what I
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: loved I had a Mini Cooper S. Yeah, I loved it,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: loved it. This one had the JCW fit out.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: It's weird.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I used to have a Cooper S. And it's amazing
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: how much they've changed in the last couple of years
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: because when I had mine, moments like back when they
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: were very you could really customize them, like you could
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: put whatever dash you wanted, whatever seats. So I had
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: these really great British lounge green leather seats and like
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a wood grain dash, and it was, you know, it
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was a game because with your genesis, you guessis stop
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: at Stephen. Yeah, what we're talking about. Yeah, So I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: had the Cooper as and you know, that's such a
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: fun car.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Look before you say anything. It's interesting to see they've
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: they've done a different a bit of a different approach
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: nowadays where you don't really get as much choice as
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you used to, and I get why. But this had
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the JCW interior, which you can.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: I do like that interior that Mini does that The
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: circular old led display is cool. It is a horrifically
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: bad info tamement system. It's laggy and just just shit
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: that at all. But the thing that disappoints me is
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: that they've taken all the j CW out of it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: The j CW used to have crackles and pops and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: when it was super charged, you could hear everything that
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: was going on. This one. If you turn off the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: interior sounds, it does not make any noise. The new
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: j c W is Yeah, like, what is this thing on? Like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I just wish they would bring that back. Why can't
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I just tick a box that says sports exhaust? That
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: is raucous and just angry because the rest of the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: cars are really cool. I just think that they've just
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: missed a trick there. Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: I haven't driven the JCW one yet. I'm really keen to,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: especially the Countrymen. Yep, that's based on the X one,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: right one, Yeah, what if they put They've just brought
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: out like a version of the X one, which is
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: kind of like an.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: M Yeah, I think it's the thirty five. I is
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the X one, the hot one that basically is the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Countryman JCW. Yeah, but it's it's a fun car. It
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: goes really quick, like it's from all of that sort
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: of stuff. It's good, big breaks all that. But yeah,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: just I just wish it could just have a bit
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: more personality.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if they I wonder if you could
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: change out with an exhaust yeah.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: After ma market. But it's the thing is with cars
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: these days, I just have so many emissions control devices
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: that I just take the life out of them. And
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: I just wish that if I'm paying for a JCW,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: just you know, just let me ticke a box. I'll
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: sign a waiver.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. Well, yeah, look, I liked it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It was fun. It was still throw around. This was
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the s which I thought was still plenty quick for
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like the bloody as. I'm like, ah, this is this
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: has got some some throat to it. It's good fun.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It's still a little car in a way. It's still
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: it's getting bigger. Oh yeah, you know, it's definitely not
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the little car it used to be, but I guess
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it's a little by today's standards. Yeah, it's this beautiful color.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want to know what the color was. It
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: was like a blue. It almost looked like a tiffany blue.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't know what.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: That looks, really, you definitely wouldn't know.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It was good.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: What have you driven lately?
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so did the Tasmin I spent some time in
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the Ranger plug in hybrid.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, it was snooze.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: It was good, but not the one I Storm Track
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: or whatever it was called. It was obscenely over price
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and never listened to the noise that was making. I
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: put this up on my Instagram and as well. Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: instantly got a call from Ford because they were panicking
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: about the noise that it was making. But basically, I
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: went out to the drive I'd had it charging overnight,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: went out to the driveway, turned it on so that
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: it would run the heater, but it was in ev
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: mode so the engine was not on. So I ever
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: listened to this. I was going to put it up
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: to the speaker. It's some rough sounds that have started.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: So this is a cold start on full electric with
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: the battery pull.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: It sounds like something's rattling in that fan.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: So my theory, and they haven't confirmed this, but my
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: theory is when you get into a car like that, manufacturers,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: depending on how they do it, they operate these in
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: two different ways. They either let you run it on
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: electric and just leave the internal combustion engine dormant and
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: just never even think about it, or what Ford appears
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: to do is even if you're running in full electric
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: it will circulate like some sort of heated liquid through
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: the internal combustion engine, so that when it does have
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: to fire up, you could be doing one hundred k's
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: now you don't want it to go straight to two
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: thousand rpm and just be sitting there red heavy load.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: When we used to I used to do my engineering job,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: we had.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: This isn't a linked in account.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so proud of my team because here's why
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: I did well. No, So, when I did my engineering job,
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: we worked at data centers, and data centers all have
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: these enormous generators that run if the electricity goes out.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So if the electricity goes out, data centers have battery
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: packs that take over immediately. Then generators start, and then
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: generators run the site for potentially weeks on end because
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: they've got huge fuel tanks. And what they would do
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: is when they were running generator tests, they would start
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: them in anger, which is where you basically turn it
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: on and load it up immediately. But those generators all
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: had like heat jackets that would run warm oil through
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: them so that when it started, you weren't starting a
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: cold engine and so that's what Fords doing. So but
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the problem is that it sounds like whatever was running
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: on that car was like a pump of some sort
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: circulating fluid. Potentially I was parked on a hill and
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: it sounds like perhaps the pump wasn't able to access
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: the liquid that it was meant to be circulating. So yeah,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether they actually tested a cold start
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: on a hill as part of the engineering program. But yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a bit of a concerning one. And outside of that
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: car's fine. I just don't know why you'd bother buying.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of money too.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the range is a woeful. It's like realistic thirty
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: kilometers of driving range, which is appalling. Yeah, you're better
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: off just buying like a BYD Shark or a cannon.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: Like if you need to off road and tow, you
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: get the cannon. If you just want something quick and
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: electric and.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Get around town, you get the bid. Yeah, the Ford,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I just don't know why.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Anyone would buy it. So that's a bit of a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: weird one.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, we should talk about Tesla self driving f SD.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: They call it brackets supervised.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love that, which I wouldn't know what what
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: considers supervised or what do they call it? It's there's
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a word like what you've kind of got to be
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: overlooking the car supervising? Yeah, not supervising. Jesus Christ.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I wish truth it was he I would be able
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: to talk lingo.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably industry chat, industry chat.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Fuck. While you're looking out, I think I think you
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: know what the probably the word. I think I probably
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: was looking for a supervised Yeah, I want to know
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: what what the what constitutes supervised? So you're letting the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: car go drive, but you've got a supervisor.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Let me paint a picture first. So I get a
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: cryptic like phone call from Tip Gordy, this is I
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: just get an answer it up to this.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Hello, isn't you Darling?
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: It's Donna.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: How you doing here?
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: You Darling? I fucking missed you a little perfectly.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: I've been listening to that stupid podcast you do with
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the the lesbian woman there, what's what's her name?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Gordon.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I've been having a little bit of a listen to
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: that lady. And you haven't been on Darland.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: You've been in China.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: I got bloody the life the fucking scared ahead of me.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I thought he said, you're in a vagina joking.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: You would have you would you would have loved the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: episode with Trevor right, he's a start.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Don't care for that hairy bastard. I don't care for him.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I looked at his back and it looks like one
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: of me flaps. I've got a blood I've just been
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I've been visiting his sister there in Casina, and I've
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: got a new I've got a new your patient. I
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: want everyone to check it out. Now my nude thing,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: mind hock you Patrion down is Jonna the mattress actress.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: I've got a webshot and everything.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: What does that entail?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Well, if you ever fucking had a steam dim sim
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: I can fucking turn it fried in three seconds. I
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: can do it for once. Listen, I heard your bloody
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: talking about them self driving cars. I'll tell you something.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: When I'm in the bits of shitty Sigma and I'm
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: telling my caravan, I can do a bit of self driving.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: I'll fucking put the bloody steering wheel what you got
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: and then I just little love, I do need to
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: fucking shift left little.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: And then just caught me.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: Let you goes to the left.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. Thank you for the call.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Donna, don't forget about Donnas and stubby holders. Don't forget
• 27:17
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• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Donna's Hot, Jimmy's and teas.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: See Land.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I love you, but it was weird that your phone
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: would start going in the Military Professional podcast.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I really shouldn't be taking phone calls while we're doing
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that's she's got a mouth on it, hasn't she?
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Who's that?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Donna?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: What's it? Donna? Yeah, I tune out.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I can't stand her language is disclosed, she's got she's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: just very unclassy. She sounds very uncapped.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Well that's that's true.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you would know you've been there anyway.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: So what I was saying was I've got a cryptic
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: phone call from Tesla and they said at a breath mate,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: So I've literally done four steps and I sound like
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: fucking Christophers case defeating himself.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Like Trevor six months ago.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Jesus, I think I'm going to get on the Trevor juice.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I got a cryptic phone call and like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: come up to Brisbane.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: We're doing an event and you know, we want you
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: to experience something and I thought they were going to
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: give us the Model Wide Performance to drive and I'm
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: like all right, can I bring the videographer and like yes,
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: but you need to pay for him to come. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I'm like okay, they are the world's tightest car company.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, right, we'll cover the cost of that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So I flew up there with a videographer and we
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: went into this room and they're like, we're about to
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: roll out full self driving bracket, supervised bracket for Australia
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: and New Zealand. I was like, oh, this is exciting.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: And we flew up to Mount Cotton, which is like
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: a driver training facility outside of Brisbane, and I thought
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: that was going to drive us around Mount Cotton. I
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: thought this is going to be stupid.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: It's like a it's a curated road that you've got here.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It's not that special.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: And they all right, so we've got some out the front.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: You can go on a drive loop through to Brisbane
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: and back and I was like, whoa, okay, So we
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: set up all the cameras on the car activated full
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: self driving, which requires you to answer about thirty different disclaimers,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: none of which I properly read. It then drove me
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: to the city like on its own. I literally just
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: had my hands behind the wheel and my feet near
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: the brakes.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: So did you have to put your hands on the wheel?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: You don't have to. It's not like autopilot where you
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: have to interact with it every twenty seconds. You do
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: not have to touch anything for the entirety of the drive.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: And it will do everything from indicating breaking stopping, changing lanes,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: stopping it roundabouts, going through it like it does everything.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And like it was weird. I do you keep your
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: hands on your lap?
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Well, technically you need to still be in control, right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and this is one of the things like you can't.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: You've got to be what's the word I'm looking.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: For, supervising it right? The supervised. I have a question
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if I am supervising right and having away? Yeah, well,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: because that would be the first thing, you know. I
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: remember when I remember when mobile phones first got cameras.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: The first thing I did was was philm a Willie and.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Two of those eight pixels were Jesus.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: He couldn't fit.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: According to a cop.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: That I spoke to in Queensland, he said that you
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: don't have to have your hands on the wheel as
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: long as you have control of the vehicle.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: So I think that's open to interpretation.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And just as a really quick side note, Tesla has
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: been sued by that many people in the States I
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: have alleged autopilot crashes. They actually had to pay some
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: do two hundred and something million dollars to the family
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: he was involved in a crash, and the crazy thing
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: was that he allegedly wasn't even using autopilot. So they
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: said that no car would ever have been able to
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: stop the crash that he was in because he was
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: just not He dropped his phone or something went looking
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: for it. So the judge awarded the family thirty three
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: percent of damages, which equated to be like two hundred million.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: So Tesla's appealing that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know that they've had any successful convictions based
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: on it running on auto.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Public because Tesla is a little tricky with the way
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: they do things.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Every instance so far, they say that autopilot was disabled,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and based on some testing that the people have done
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: on the internet, it disables just before an impact or
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: a crash. So I was like, yeah, it was disabled
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: one third of a second before it crashed into the thing.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: So yes, technically that's true, but anyway, look we've seen.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: An interesting kind of what an interesting kind of get
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: out of jail for free card. Like if you're saying, well,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we disabled it, like they've got every chance to correct it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: No.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So yeah, for the most part it worked well.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: There was a couple of instances, and we've got a
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: video up on YouTube that you can sort of watch
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: all of this. On a couple of instances in the
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: city in Brisbanese, what I did was they had a
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: curate a driver route, and I'm like, I'm immediately going
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: to change that because I want to go to Bunnings.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I want to see what it's like not on a
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: driver rout.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: There's obviously a Saturday morning you want a sausage of bread,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and yeah, immediately.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: As I sort of deviated from their driver it made
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: a couple of pretty serious eras, one of which was
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: like driving across oncoming traffic basically and I had to
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: take control of the car. And then the other was
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: at Bunning's where it just failed to give way to
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: another car that had right of way. So it was
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: interesting to me as well because I always understood that
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: this system takes all the data from customers that drive
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Teslas and then creates like an AI model of how
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: to operate.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Well, there's your first mistake.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: No, but that's what people think. But the way that
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: it actually works, based on the discussion I had with
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: one of their engineers that we weren't allowed to quote
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: or include in any of the content, was that they
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: globally have what they call safe drivers, and these will
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: be people that are paid by Tesla to drive around
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: in Tesla's in learning mode, and it will teach the
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: car rules, so things like, if you're on a freeway
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and you need to change lanes, how much space do
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: you safely need to do that?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So is it two meters?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Is it five to ten? The car then knows that
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: next time it recognizes that it's on a freeway through
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: its camera system, that it can change lanes because it
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: says that there is five meters between those cars. It
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: knows how to respond to a speed hump, it knows
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: how to respond to a human in front of it,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: a school crossing zone. So it learns all of these
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: things because Teslas don't have radars or lighters, they just
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: use camera vision. And that to me is a bit
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: concerned because the only other experience I've had in an
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: autonomous car was in Los Angeles in a weaymow where
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: that was unreal. That was a really cool experience. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: there was no one else in the car. It's just
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: my wife and I, no one driving, it's just the
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: car doing it. But that has that has all sorts
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: of senses on top of it. Side that's got lighter
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: or something, it's got light radar, it's got ultrasonic senses
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: like it is fully loaded. So the next obvious question
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: you're going to ask, can I bat one out in
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: a Tesla's that's correct, Yes you can. There's quite a
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: few porn videos of people doing it while they're on
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: self driving mode. So I question whether these teslas can
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: pick up the what do we call it, what's the
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: word the supervision?
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: The supervision.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, actually it's funny they have so when you're running.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Just normal autopilot, which comes stand in in all teslas,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: it requires you to like bump the wheel every certain
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: interval like twenty seconds or something. These cars, because you
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: don't need to touch the wheel, they still need to
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: monitor you. So there's actually a camera inside the car
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: that looks at your face and it's able to use
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: AI to determine whether you're concentrating, so it's not like
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: one of those shitty systems you find in a lot
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: of Chinese cars today where you look out the window
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: to literally do a head check and you're distracted. Yeah,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: it's like no fucking driving the car. So it does
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: a really good good job with that. Then what it'll
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: do is if you are distracted, such as having intercourse
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: with someone in the passenger seat, what it will do
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: is is start prompting you to intervene, and if you
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: ignore it, it will basically shut full self driving down
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: for that whole session, so you won't be able to
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: reactivate it. And it logs that as well.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: It almost gives you a warning.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Pretty much like and it logs the amount of strikeouts
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: you've had, so that if you are in an accident
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: like this guy as part of that court case, actually
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: mentioned how many strikeouts he'd previously had, so he had
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a history of being distracted while driving. Oh, which you
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: obviously shouldn't have. Because it takes a lot of fucking
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: effort to get this thing to do a strikeout due
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to distraction like it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Is, it is a lot of work, so did you
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: test that a little bit? Did you try kind of
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like close your eyes?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Tested it previously in a standard Tesla and it actually
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: came to a full stop and put its hazard lights
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: on from memory, so it managed that whole process. But
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: because we're on public rids, I don't want to fath
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: too much with it. But there were there were a
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: couple of other sort of interesting things, like we went
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: through a roadwork zone on the freeway. It dropped to
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: eighty and the roadwork zone finished, and we'd passed like
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: two sets of one hundred signs, but it was still
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: just doing eighty and it wasn't until the third one
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: that it sped up again, and it's like that's annoying.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: And then another one where it entered around about like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you didn't even slow down for it, which would be
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: fine to do if you could see everything, but there
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: was a motorbike coming.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Oh god. I was like a lot. Got a bad
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: feeling about this self drive ship.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I really just this is this is supervised.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: So they're their ambition for this is the robo taxi,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: which is basically where your car while you're here at work,
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: your car will drive off and do uberfore you and
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: generate you an income.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. But it's a great idea.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: It's well, I thought so was well until I looked
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: at the practicality of it. If I look at my
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: wife's car, it is as if there was like a
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: small nuclear reactor that exploded. It was like a mini
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: Chernobyl inside her car because there is ship everywhere. Can
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: you imagine her just parking that at work and it
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: going to pick up someone and just having to get.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Like she's got ibs to.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: That too.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: But you just imagine all the you have to clean
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: your car.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I just I don't like that concept, but I imagine
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: imagine that though, like you get your car returned or whatever,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: and there's just like a fucking Grogan and just someone's
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: bloody chicken corma sitting under the seat.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Oops. So yeah, I think it's It's an interesting and
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I am excited for the technology eventually working. I just
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: don't know that it's quite there just yet. And I'm
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: glad it's still supervised. We're still a long way away
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: from And that's the other thing. This is still technically
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: a level two autonomous system, and a level too autonomous
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: system is no different to radar cruise control in a
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Masda too, so they're technically classed as the same system,
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: even though with a Masda too the car will prompt
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: you a thousand times and it won't let you let
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: go of the wheel, whereas this will allow.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You to have nothing on the car. So how much
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: do you think this costs?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I think it costs ten thousand dollars per play, A
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: lot of money. Yeah, it's a love for It's a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: lot of money for an upgrade.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Isn't it. Yeah, I think they're going to They're doing
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: a monthly subscription in the States. I'm pretty sure it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: like ninety nine US dollars a month, so it'll probably
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: be about one hundred and fifty bucks here a month,
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: which a lot of money. People where I think this
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: might actually come in handy. Both dad and my brother
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: do night shift work and have to drive about eighty
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: ks to get to their job. There's a lot of
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: times where they will come home feeling very tired, or
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: they'll have to pull over on the side of the
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: road to have a power nap. It could be good
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: for people like that where if you are on a
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: longer distance drive, obviously you can't sleep while you're driving
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: in the car. But to prevent the type of accidents
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: we see a lot with micro sleeps and really drowsy drivers,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: this could be a good stop gap. Obviously you should
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: always be stopping and having a power nap, but it
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: could come in handy as a backup for people like that.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: It could actually be handy for people who are who
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: like incapable of driving a car as well.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Well. You look at older people the amount of times
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: and it's funny. It's actually not funny, but the amount
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: of times they try and make it like a whimsical
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: thing where they go, oh, they can use the break
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: for the throttle. It's going to be one time where
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: someone does that and you're going to kill someone. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: so far it's been quite minor accidents. But like old people,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: this is great. They still have their freedom behind the wheel.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: They're not confined to getting taxis and all this other stuff.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: You can still, in theory be sitting in the car
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: and they probably have sufficient control to take over if
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: something goes wrong, but they're not required to be fully
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: in charge, which at the moment some older people struggle with.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Hmm hmm. I wonder if someone with no arms could
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: drive one of these.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Technically, no, because you have to be able to press
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: buttons on the screen. Maybe if you could press the
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: button on the screen somehow, press it with your nose, Yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: press it with your tongue. I'm not laughing. Okay, so neither.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not laughing at that. That was just qu'd clean
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the screen at the same time. Speed a long night?
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: Is that anyway?
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Is that fingers mudges on the screen?
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: There?
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: No, it's it's the tongue. Jesus Christ, Oh Jesus, you
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to have it causing that. Garen then just
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: licked a screen. Oh anyway, anyway, anyway, driver less cars.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Oh hey, I think that's it. I thank god.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I should mention that. Next week we've got a pretty
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: exciting guest on Rosso.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: We had Rosy, which is an interesting interview, but this
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: time Rosso is going to join us, so we're gonna
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: chat with him.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: We'll try and give away some copies of his book
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, yeah, cool, we'll have a listen to that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: But yeah, if you got any feedback, contact at the
• 40:45
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• 40:48
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• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you like and don't like, which that's probably not a
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: bad idea.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I don't we've ever asked for feedback. Yeah, we have, okay, and.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say they don't like this show.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: That was just mainly you just mainly that out like me,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: we didn't get the drivers with Paul, Paul and Trevor.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: That's got a good ring to it. And Steph stop,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: what are you laughing at it?
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: I was just thinking about you putting that car in
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: automatic drive. Let's go for a car review, Steph, worry.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what we didn't talk about the new
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: prel lude prelude We can you leave that to another episode.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'll actually be driving it in Tokyo.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let me know how powerless that car is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: What a hybrid piecea but wow, oh I had the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: young da Ionic nine too. That's the key.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Ev It's an interesting with think.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's got quite the ass on it doesn't it.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: It's it's kind of like the front of the car
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was like the people who designed the front of the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: car didn't really speak to the people who designed the back.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: And we're like, hey, we've got this bold future in mind.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: We're going to do forward thinking avant Garde and the
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: people who did the back went, we're going for a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: fucking nineteen eighties Volvo station Wagon.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: It's also very expensive.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: It's very expensive, one hundred and twenty thousand dollars. I'll
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: tell you what it does do well. It does do
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the interior quite well. It is quite a nice plush interior,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and it is quick. I mean for a big ass car,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's like a five second car. But also it's soulless.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You know, these evs, I'm starting to get a bit mere.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing is the Santa Fe is such
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: a good car. I just don't know why you wouldn't
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: just buy that and save yourself, like fifty sixty seventy however,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: many thousand dollars.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, surely that's just a better thing. Oh you know
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: what I saw the other day, the Young Day Palisade,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the new Palisade.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice, it's a nice looking car.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Again, going to be expensive though, I reckon kit it out.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Young Day are doing really cool interiors. But anyway,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: we went off track.
• 43:06
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• 43:08
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• 43:10
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• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I think you've done all the housekeeping. Gordy and three
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: guys in an EV Oh yeah, three guys on a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: TV you, Trevor and fucking Fenech. All right, eh, I
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: think I know. Let me think of my own scenario.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Gordon and Tom Baker. That could be fun. Oh no, no, wait,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: wait wait.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: The dirty Sanchez you could call it that the show.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Don't be a brand noser? What about? What about? What
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: about Gordon and the Castles guy? What's that kid? What's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: that guy's name?
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: A brand mat?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Would you call him? Did you call him fat brown?
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, don't say that. Actually, I reckon if I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: had a competition with that guy, I reckon I could
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: probably out drink him, because I reckon I've got a
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: better suit of tits in him.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Anyway, this is this is definitely gone downhill in next week,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: hopefully for a much better show.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Bye, Gordon and Nadine. What's their face is?
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: No?
• 44:30
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• 44:35
  Speaker 3: I know?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: With with that four balls in a four balls and
• 44:43
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