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INTERVIEW: G Herbo Talks New Album 'Lil Herb,' Grief; Father's Passing, Family, Meek Mill, Funny Marco + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Every day waiting Breakfast Club finish for y'all done morning.
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Speaker 3: Everybody is the j n V. Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 3: We got a special guest in the building, Yes, sir,
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Speaker 3: got Gerbo. Welcome and congratulations man the number one record
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Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, grass Man.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm good. I'm good. I'm glad to be here.
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Speaker 2: How a feeld number one record? I feel good. I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I feel great. It feel great.
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Speaker 4: I'll just be trying to like stay in the moment
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Speaker 4: real just just keep it like up, you know, like
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Speaker 4: when you where you got those type of moments you
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Speaker 4: just trying to figure out like all right, well I
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Speaker 4: me personally, like.
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Speaker 2: I gotta figure out what's the next best thing, Like
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Speaker 2: what do I do next? From that?
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Speaker 4: Like I try to live in a moment and grasp
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Speaker 4: up that energy. But just keep it going. You're not
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Speaker 4: trying to catch another number one.
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to keep it going.
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Speaker 3: Did you expect that to be the record because it's
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Speaker 3: not your typical course, Well, it was just you just spitting.
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Speaker 4: Nah, Hell Noah, for sure. I was just literally, I
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Speaker 4: can't say it enough. It was just me just having
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Speaker 4: fun in the studio. I was in New York and
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Speaker 4: was in the studio me south Side Smack and you
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Speaker 4: know south Side Like I really, I'd be having to
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Speaker 4: give a lot of credit to Big Bro because he
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Speaker 4: want the only people that could tell me like, rap
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Speaker 4: on this, just rap on this and figure it out
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Speaker 4: like just rap And that's what I did and that
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Speaker 4: that should changed my life?
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Speaker 3: Who picked it as a single? Like was it just
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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna release and see what happened?
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Speaker 2: And it just took over. That's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: That's why I like, as artists, you gotta like really
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Speaker 4: just bet on yourself for real, for real. Because I
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Speaker 4: was in the in a mold of just trying to
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Speaker 4: do music and see what the streets connected to.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even like that.
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Speaker 4: Song came out and December on my app. I got
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Speaker 4: an app on my own app, like where I just
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Speaker 4: put out music material content. All this is just for
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Speaker 4: the people who really support me. Like you know what
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, my fans, theyn't know about the g app.
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Speaker 4: I put it out on my app on a project
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Speaker 4: that I was just recording.
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Speaker 2: All samples too, Like I did a project with all.
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Speaker 4: Samples and it couldn't even go on Apple Music.
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Speaker 2: It couldn't go on DSPs. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Like I put it out on the app in December,
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Speaker 4: and the label put it out on DSPs in like
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Speaker 4: March April. So it's like you gotta just trash it
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Speaker 4: and just see what the streets fuck with gra app.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Has it changed the bag? Has that single changed your bag?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Because see I'll be thinking that. You know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people be fronting on like the power of radio
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Speaker 1: and having a big radio record.
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Speaker 2: Speak to that.
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Speaker 4: Man for sure, And you gotta put money in radio though,
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Speaker 4: like you gotta, like you know what I'm saying, what
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Speaker 4: you put in it, come out, We'll go out on
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Speaker 4: the wash, come out on the wrist.
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Speaker 2: Whatever they're saying is you know what I'm saying. So like.
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Speaker 4: I've always been like I knew because I've been independent
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Speaker 4: this whole time, So I know about like analytics, I
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Speaker 4: know about like residuals, I know what, Like one record
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Speaker 4: can really change your life, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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Speaker 4: and I finally caught that record that like that life
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Speaker 4: changing records.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, the bag been.
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Speaker 1: Crazy and the royalties from radio are better than the screaming.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely for sure.
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Speaker 4: And it's like once you once you get a song
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Speaker 4: that really go radio.
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Speaker 2: It's like it's just like it just changed everything for real.
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Speaker 4: Change the places you actually perform at for sure, Right
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Speaker 4: exactly like you could put you could put you put
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Speaker 4: money in radio for sure for what to do what
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Speaker 4: it's supposed to do. But just like even like it's
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Speaker 4: a difference between like putting something in radio for just
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Speaker 4: get on the radio for shit to get like rhythmic
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Speaker 4: play playlists, you know what I'm saying, Like all of that,
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Speaker 4: it's just a big super difference.
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Speaker 2: Like I'll be talking to like Make all the time.
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Speaker 4: It's just like once you get a record, Like I'm
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Speaker 4: not even talking about what legit Like there's certain records
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Speaker 4: that like the format where you know it could go radio,
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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like I feel like every
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Speaker 4: artist all you need is like one radio record a year,
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Speaker 4: just one.
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Speaker 2: Like you feel I'm saying, it ain't that easy to
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Speaker 2: get one. It's not easy at all.
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Speaker 4: But like you know, hit Maker, that's my big brother,
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Speaker 4: Like he the god of this ship, like you fee
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like he know the whole formula he
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Speaker 4: do it like and that's why he's so rich, like
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Speaker 4: that Nigga richest shit because he on radio every year
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Speaker 4: at least.
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Speaker 2: Point it out right for sure. Willow Herb Willer Herb.
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Speaker 4: I was just trying to like tap into like that
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Speaker 4: old hunger, like my old self. And when I be
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Speaker 4: rapping good and shit, like I be reading comments and shit,
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Speaker 4: sometimes my fans be like, oh that ain't they Ain't
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Speaker 4: you heard what? That's little herd, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Like I feel like that was like one of my
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Speaker 4: best errors of rap. Like I always been able to rap.
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Speaker 4: I'm an EMC, so it's like I don't care if
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Speaker 4: I'm not even all the way tapped into like my
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Speaker 4: confidence and all of that shit. I'm always gonna be
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Speaker 4: able to rap good, you feel me, But like once
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Speaker 4: you really focus on straight rap, it's different.
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Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to do.
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Speaker 4: So that's why I went and like name my album
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Speaker 4: or Herb, like I was going up like listening to
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Speaker 4: old interviews, listen to old music videos. I mean, watch
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Speaker 4: old music videos, listen to old songs and shit like that,
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Speaker 4: and like I was just trying to find like a
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Speaker 4: higher level of rap for myself, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: And I say this all the time, like you could
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Speaker 4: really get caught up in what's in front of you,
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Speaker 4: Like always been the type of person Like I say
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Speaker 4: this a lot a lot of rooms that I was in.
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Speaker 4: I wasn't really in the rooms, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: because I'm thinking about like my past. I'm thinking about
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Speaker 4: what I gotta do when I get out the room.
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Speaker 4: Like I'm just saying what's up, Like there's certain conversations
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Speaker 4: that I really couldn't have because my mind is all
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Speaker 4: over the place. You feel me, Like so like in
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Speaker 4: this like era where I am mentally, I was just
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Speaker 4: trying to.
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Speaker 2: Like find that old hunger that made me enjoy what
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Speaker 2: I have now, you know what I'm saying, Like like.
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Speaker 4: That's that's why I really named my project Little Herb,
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Speaker 4: because like you were like on the day to day,
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Speaker 4: I'm thirty years old. I've been rapping since I was
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Speaker 4: like sixteen for real, for real, Like you feel me,
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Speaker 4: and I was trying to figure out like damn, like
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Speaker 4: it's like all the steps to that it took me
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Speaker 4: to get here. You feel what I'm saying, Like I
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Speaker 4: forgot a lot.
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It's a lot of shit that
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Speaker 2: I did that I forgot.
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Speaker 4: So it's like I wanted to make myself remember, so
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Speaker 4: I had to like go back in and like tap
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Speaker 4: in with my old self for real.
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Speaker 1: I heard you say a little herb is a full
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Speaker 1: circle moment and it's a return to the fundamentals. But
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Speaker 1: you closing the chapter on the little herb area, what
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Speaker 1: what is closing that chapter actually look like?
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Speaker 2: Closing that chapter is like for real, just letting go.
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Speaker 4: Like it's a lot of shit that I held on
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Speaker 4: to that I just don't need no more.
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Speaker 2: Like for real, for real, like the street.
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Speaker 1: Therapy talk right there, just.
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Speaker 4: Letting go for real real, and it is. It is
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Speaker 4: definitely therapy that helped me. It's like a lot of
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Speaker 4: that you hold on to you just like just let
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Speaker 4: it go, just let it go and just let.
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Speaker 2: It find you.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, no, for real, Like
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Speaker 4: I was one of the people that just like my
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Speaker 4: heart is so big, and I feel like people knew that,
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Speaker 4: Like people knew that, Like they grab me and I'm
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Speaker 4: grabbing them back. You fee what I'm saying, Like I'm
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Speaker 4: holding on to that type of shit. It's like that's
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Speaker 4: just letting that chapter go, like I should like and
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Speaker 4: people been saying this to me for years and I've
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Speaker 4: been knowing it, but I never really acted on it.
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Speaker 4: Like I shouldn't focus on nothing but music and my
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Speaker 4: family and like God, like that's the only thing that
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Speaker 4: I should wake up and care about.
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Speaker 2: I shouldn't really give a fuck.
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Speaker 4: About how somebody else eat or how somebody else get
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Speaker 4: the work or get the sleep or any of that shit,
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Speaker 4: and not worried about that for years. Like let's be
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Speaker 4: closing that chapter, like I'm gonna tap into this, tell
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Speaker 4: my story and just let go for let go and
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Speaker 4: let God for real for and that go for everything
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Speaker 4: and everybody. And it's a whole other chapter opening for
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Speaker 4: me because everything that got me here, I don't I
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Speaker 4: don't even really have it no more, for real real,
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Speaker 4: like all my friends dead. I'm finna be a real,
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Speaker 4: one hundred percent independent artist, Like I don't got no label,
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Speaker 4: no production company. I'm one hundred percent a real new
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Speaker 4: person and a new artist.
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Speaker 2: So it's like I just.
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Speaker 4: Want to just tap into this shit, do what I
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Speaker 4: need to do, and I'm already doing it for real,
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Speaker 4: but just like letting go for real, like I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't want to have no attachments other than family,
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Speaker 4: No bullshit.
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Speaker 1: How did you balance revisiting like those old traumas with
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Speaker 1: the grown man you are now like you're thirty, So
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Speaker 1: you did your whole new level of life. You don't
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Speaker 1: shift to the fad shot that kid, nineteen year old kid?
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Speaker 4: No more?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure.
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Speaker 4: My homie, my one of my best friends, he used
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Speaker 4: to say this shit like he only probably like eight
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Speaker 4: months older than me.
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Speaker 2: He like, bro, once you touch thirty, you just gonna start.
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Speaker 4: I think he's He used to tell me like, I
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Speaker 4: can't wait you turn thirty, like he turned thirty. He like,
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Speaker 4: I can't wait till you turn thirty because it's just
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Speaker 4: like it's like a light switch.
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Speaker 2: Like shit, just you know what I'm saying, just tap in.
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Speaker 4: For you and it's for me for real, like I promise, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Like, I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't be wanting to sound like cliche or corny
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Speaker 4: and none of this type of shit. But like my
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Speaker 4: girl is like my toughest critic, Like she wanted people
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Speaker 4: who really just like stay on me, like she tell
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Speaker 4: me a lot of shit that I know and I
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Speaker 4: don't act on you know what I'm saying, which is
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Speaker 4: coming to like my business, niggas around me. You feel
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like all of that you feel me
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Speaker 4: like and like to kind of like tap into the
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Speaker 4: what you were saying. The question is like you just
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Speaker 4: gotta you just gotta really like just go with your gut,
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Speaker 4: your intuition. You fee what I'm saying. Like a lot
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Speaker 4: of times niggas question theyself and feel like all right,
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Speaker 4: but you know you might know the answer, you might
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Speaker 4: know right from wrong and not do it because you
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Speaker 4: question it has going to like affect other people. You
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Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying, And I'm one of them type
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Speaker 4: of people, but like I'm one of them type of
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Speaker 4: people that think about how it's going to affect other people.
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Speaker 4: And like I was saying that, like because my girl
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Speaker 4: she like she don't give a fuck, like she don't care, and.
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Speaker 2: You need that, like you need it because like I really.
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Speaker 4: Got to stop caring for real for real, Like I
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Speaker 4: feel like I care too much and I like done
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Speaker 4: certain shit or not done certain things because I'm figuring,
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Speaker 4: I'm feeling like it's going to affect people in a
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Speaker 4: negative way or whatever way it is.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: It's like if you got a good heart, if you
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Speaker 4: just lead with what is right for you, like it'll
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Speaker 4: work out for sure.
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Speaker 3: Now you talk about Meek Mill changing your life, right, yeah,
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Speaker 3: he was your inspiration. Yah, break that down to what
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Speaker 3: you've seen in milk, that meat that made you think
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Speaker 3: that you can do it.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 4: Literally, I've just got done listening to We're Gonna Get
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Speaker 4: this money right now on my way here.
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Speaker 2: Like, Meek is my.
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Speaker 4: Favorite rapper for real, Bro, It's my big brother. And
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Speaker 4: I was just with Meek last night. We just did
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Speaker 4: a song last night.
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Speaker 2: We was in the studio last night, I believe, yeah,
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Speaker 2: two nights ago. Who's list in the studio the other day.
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Speaker 2: But Meek is.
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Speaker 4: Just like like he's like I used to listen to
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Speaker 4: me and watch me when he was a battle rapper.
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Speaker 4: But when he really got rich and made this shit happen,
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Speaker 4: It's like all right, But that like it's different for
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Speaker 4: me watching like Wayne.
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Speaker 2: And hole Man.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like I couldn't like I
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Speaker 4: could relate to it. But it's like when I grew
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Speaker 4: up and me, I've seen them niggas rich already, Like
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Speaker 4: I seen Meek turn rich coming from the streets and
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Speaker 4: going through all the shit that he went through and
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Speaker 4: really like talking about it and preaching like positivity and motivation.
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Speaker 2: That shit made me feel like I.
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Speaker 4: Just want to be like that for real, real, Like
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Speaker 4: that nigga really like helped me grow into the artist
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Speaker 4: that I am today, for real real because like damn,
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Speaker 4: like this nigga, Meek, like it's not like he was
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Speaker 4: an artist and he was like far away, you knowe
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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like I felt like.
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Speaker 2: I could grasp on to that shit and become that.
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Speaker 4: Like this nigga is a real street nigga that became
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Speaker 4: the biggest in the world. Like he became the biggest
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Speaker 4: best rat and he's.
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Speaker 2: A rap guy.
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Speaker 4: Like I love rapping. I'm an mc so I studied
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Speaker 4: that first and foremost. But just a blueprinter like that nigga,
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Speaker 4: Like he like he gave you the real blueprint. Like
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Speaker 4: you get on, you take care of niggas, you do
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Speaker 4: what you supposed to do. You take care of your family,
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Speaker 4: your mother, like that nigg used to make me like
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Speaker 4: I just used to have to just get money to
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Speaker 4: my mama.
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Speaker 2: Just like thinking about that type of shit.
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Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying, Like I retire my mom
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Speaker 4: when I was sixteen years old, bro literally and they
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Speaker 4: put a lot of pressure on me. I told my
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Speaker 4: mama stopped working when I was sixteen.
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Speaker 2: She never worked.
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Speaker 4: Since I'm taking care of her, my aunties, my whole
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Speaker 4: family since I was sixteen, that's a lot of pressure.
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Speaker 2: I hell, lo the pressure, a lot of pressure.
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Speaker 3: But how I was one question I was gonna say,
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Speaker 3: So now you're the meat meal for a lot of
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Speaker 3: these younger artists. So what do you show them to
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Speaker 3: show them that they can do it?
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Speaker 2: What do you do different?
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Speaker 3: So because you know you got a lot of kids
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Speaker 3: watching me, they want.
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Speaker 2: To be increble for sure.
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Speaker 4: Like for me, it's I just try to like what's
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Speaker 4: the word, Like you gotta like show them's like like.
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Speaker 2: What Mek did for real, like show feel tangible.
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Speaker 4: You just gotta showing like Like the thing with me
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Speaker 4: that I feel like make a difference a lot is
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Speaker 4: I let people see me in a physical like you
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Speaker 4: gotta see it, like have conversations.
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Speaker 2: Like seeing is believing.
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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like, you know you could do
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Speaker 4: this when you could actually get in front of somebody
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Speaker 4: like me. Growing up, I never seen nobody that I
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Speaker 4: looked up to, and I wanted to be like in
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Speaker 4: front of me talking to me. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: Like I just had to have a manpower, like I
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Speaker 4: could do it.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it. You fee what I'm saying. And
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Speaker 2: it happened for me.
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Speaker 4: And when I got a certain age like nineteen twenty eight,
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Speaker 4: like those ages when I started traveling and having conversations
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Speaker 4: with people that I looked up to, But like fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
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Speaker 4: them years really matter whereas like you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 4: and I try to be the person where I just
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Speaker 4: go back and do certain things and go touch the community,
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Speaker 4: and you know what I'm saying, tell them that they
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Speaker 4: could really make it, Like this shit is nothing for real,
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Speaker 4: but like and I ain't gonna say it's nothing like
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Speaker 4: it's it's a task.
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Speaker 2: For sure, it's hard, but it's easy at the same time.
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Speaker 4: All you gotta do is wake up and strive to
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Speaker 4: go get it and want to do it and believe
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Speaker 4: that you could do it.
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Speaker 2: You just gotta have a vision, you fee what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: And when I go look at like these kids and
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Speaker 4: be going to talk and have conversations, like they got
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Speaker 4: the same power that I got, Like they really got
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Speaker 4: something in them. They just don't think it's possible. This
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Speaker 4: shit is really possible, like they when you wake up
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Speaker 4: and all you got is this four block radius and
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Speaker 4: your hood and the shit that you're dealing with every day,
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Speaker 4: you think that's your life, but it's like it's so
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Speaker 4: much outside of that. All you gotta know is how
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Speaker 4: to break that cycle. And you feel what I'm saying, like,
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Speaker 4: that's that's the thing with me, Like I feel like
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Speaker 4: that's what make a difference in why people like believe
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Speaker 4: in me because I try.
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Speaker 2: I let him touch me. I let him, you know.
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Speaker 2: Paul's like, you know what I'm saying. I go see
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Speaker 2: the people.
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking about something now, And you made me think
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Speaker 1: about it when you said you've been rapping since she
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Speaker 1: was nineteen, because I can remember like your first friend,
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Speaker 1: I can remember your first early breakfast club interviews. Right.
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Speaker 1: But then it started getting me thinking about all of
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Speaker 1: these artists we've seen from Chicago that have come through
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Speaker 1: come through here the past fifteen years.
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Speaker 2: You talk about what's possible.
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Speaker 1: Man, you are proof that's surviving as possible, and Chief
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Speaker 1: Keiths proof that's surviving.
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Speaker 2: Is sure so so definitely know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: People like Dirk that's locked up, people like Bond that's
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Speaker 1: no longer here, plenty of other artists you probably interview
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Speaker 1: from Chicago.
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Speaker 2: How does that feel? It feel great?
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Speaker 1: Man?
15:44
Speaker 2: You know, And I'm gonna say this again.
15:48
Speaker 4: I'm gonna shout make out real quick because he just
15:51
Speaker 4: told me the other day and it's like he told
15:53
Speaker 4: me this before, but him telling me the other.
15:57
Speaker 2: Day is just like.
15:59
Speaker 4: If a difference, a different feeling to him saying. It's
16:02
Speaker 4: like he's like, man, want you to chosen one. It's
16:05
Speaker 4: certain things that just affect you differently, you know what
16:08
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And I learned that from the streets, Like
16:11
Speaker 4: I didn't bump my head so many times and did
16:13
Speaker 4: so much and been arrested in and fell off and
16:17
Speaker 4: came back or whatever the case may be.
16:19
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
16:20
Speaker 4: It's like when you do certain things, God just punished
16:23
Speaker 4: you differently because you can't get.
16:25
Speaker 2: Away with that.
16:26
Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying, Like you would think you
16:27
Speaker 4: would see somebody else doing it, like, oh he did it,
16:30
Speaker 4: and you can't do that because God got a different
16:33
Speaker 4: path for you.
16:34
Speaker 1: And like.
16:37
Speaker 4: Surviving in Chicago, just making it out of the streets
16:41
Speaker 4: alone is a blessing. Like it's literally like I'd be
16:44
Speaker 4: seeing some of my homies and certain people that just
16:46
Speaker 4: like but and I understand that other people don't get it.
16:50
Speaker 4: Like it's certain people where you just like you just
16:53
Speaker 4: like wash your hands with everything. I know, certain niggas
16:57
Speaker 4: that was real menaces in the streets that don't do
16:59
Speaker 4: nothing but just be at home with their girl and
17:01
Speaker 4: their kids now because they just want peace. Like damn,
17:04
Speaker 4: I made it out this shit. I can't believe I'm
17:06
Speaker 4: still alive. Like a lot of people never experience life
17:10
Speaker 4: to that capacity where they're just grateful that they're alive,
17:13
Speaker 4: that they still here, you knowe what I'm saying. And
17:15
Speaker 4: it's a lot of people when it comes surviving, you
17:20
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta make decisions, and it gotta be calculated,
17:24
Speaker 4: and it's a lot of people that's just raised off
17:27
Speaker 4: survival or.
17:27
Speaker 2: You will do anything.
17:28
Speaker 4: It's a difference like when you survive and you just
17:33
Speaker 4: raised off survival, Like I'm trying to explain that with Like,
17:36
Speaker 4: it's certain people where if you just like survival is
17:39
Speaker 4: your first.
17:39
Speaker 2: Instinct, you will do anything.
17:42
Speaker 4: You will kill your closest friend, you a snitch, rob
17:47
Speaker 4: steal from your mama, your grandma, and and you gotta
17:51
Speaker 4: understand this, like it's just life. It's certain people who
17:54
Speaker 4: don't know nothing else. They was raised off of survival.
17:58
Speaker 4: They mother and father raised them off of survivals. So
18:01
Speaker 4: it's like a lot of people don't understand that, you
18:04
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, It's just me being here today.
18:07
Speaker 4: I try to, Like I think that's one of the
18:10
Speaker 4: reasons why, like I probably got took advantage of so
18:14
Speaker 4: much because I understand both sides of the fence, and
18:18
Speaker 4: I try to get everybody the benefit.
18:20
Speaker 2: Of the doubt, you know what I'm saying.
18:21
Speaker 4: Like I try to, like I try to think about
18:26
Speaker 4: putting myself in other people's shoes before I make a decision,
18:29
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I always before I
18:31
Speaker 4: do anything, I always think about the consequences, repercussions, everything.
18:37
Speaker 4: So if I do something to anybody or do anything,
18:41
Speaker 4: I thought about it. So many times, I'm comfortable with
18:43
Speaker 4: how it play out, you know what I'm saying, and
18:45
Speaker 4: like you like, it's only certain people that think like that,
18:48
Speaker 4: especially in life and coming from Chicago, you gotta think
18:52
Speaker 4: about both sides of the fence. It's certain people that
18:54
Speaker 4: think a lot, and it's certain people that don't think
18:56
Speaker 4: at all. You feel me and this shit like, it's
18:59
Speaker 4: a blessing to be for sure, for sure, because I've
19:01
Speaker 4: seen a lot. I experienced a lot. I've seen a
19:03
Speaker 4: lot of death.
19:04
Speaker 2: And.
19:06
Speaker 4: I just come from one of the toughest neighborhoods in Chicago,
19:09
Speaker 4: like one of the most poverty struck in neighborhoods where
19:12
Speaker 4: it's like I was a kid and people used to
19:14
Speaker 4: like a lady walked out. I think I said this
19:16
Speaker 4: before on a breakfast club interview when I was when
19:18
Speaker 4: I was in Shorty, Like a lady walked up on me.
19:21
Speaker 2: I'm waiting on my mom. She coming from the laundry. Man.
19:24
Speaker 2: Lady walked up on me, like, you got some C
19:26
Speaker 2: I'm like m hmm, like what. I'm like what. She's like,
19:30
Speaker 2: you got some C?
19:31
Speaker 4: She asks for crack. I'm like nine years old, I'm
19:35
Speaker 4: like nineteen. Wait, on my mama to come in the
19:37
Speaker 4: house like you got some sea. I'm like, what, Yeah,
19:40
Speaker 4: she asked me if I had cracked, literally a kid
19:43
Speaker 4: three in the morning, I'm outside because that's now you're selling.
19:46
Speaker 1: Crack for real, for real, So when did you get some?
19:54
Speaker 2: That's the statute of limitations with this ship for real
20:00
Speaker 2: crack a statute of limitations for sure. But I always
20:04
Speaker 2: been one of them kids. It's like.
20:07
Speaker 4: I just wanted to get money. I knew how to
20:09
Speaker 4: get money early on, you know what I'm saying. And
20:12
Speaker 4: I used to do shit to just get fly, like
20:14
Speaker 4: get fresh and shit, you know what I'm saying. And
20:17
Speaker 4: I'm blessed that I didn't have to do it for long.
20:20
Speaker 4: You feel me like I ain't got Like I started
20:22
Speaker 4: really making money off music at sixteen years old, but
20:26
Speaker 4: I was outside two for sure.
20:28
Speaker 1: What the first record you made money off it? What
20:31
Speaker 1: did the Nicky record right with Chicago?
20:33
Speaker 2: Oh? The first record?
20:35
Speaker 4: I actually like when we started making money, like after
20:37
Speaker 4: Killshit came out?
20:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, killed Shit. Yeah.
20:41
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask what you know? He mentioned Sosa,
20:44
Speaker 3: He mentioned Vaughan mentioned Dirt.
20:46
Speaker 2: Have you spoke to Dirt?
20:47
Speaker 1: Yeah?
20:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, I supposed to I supposed to Smirk saw the
20:50
Speaker 4: dirt probably like a month, a month or two ago.
20:53
Speaker 3: How is he doing?
20:53
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doing good for sure, like mentally And that's
20:56
Speaker 4: the thing about Smirk. If you know him, you know
21:01
Speaker 4: he good like that. Nigga's really a real discipline mentally
21:07
Speaker 4: strong nigga for real, for real like this shit just
21:10
Speaker 4: like he just like this is just a part of
21:12
Speaker 4: his journey. Like he know he coming from under this shit.
21:15
Speaker 4: We all know he coming from under this the shit,
21:16
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But like he's he he
21:19
Speaker 4: won them type of niggas, like he never gonna lose hisself.
21:21
Speaker 4: All he doing is praying, talking to his family, like
21:26
Speaker 4: connecting with God. You know what I'm saying, Like shit
21:28
Speaker 4: like that, and yeah, Smirk definitely good. I spoke to him.
21:32
Speaker 4: I sent them like a little snippet of music that
21:34
Speaker 4: I'm putting out and the music that I like was
21:37
Speaker 4: saying his name and shit like that. You feel what
21:39
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like smart brother, Yeah, we.
21:41
Speaker 5: Smirked so for little Herd. Right, do you are you
21:46
Speaker 5: getting personal? Like are we hearing the pain? Because you
21:48
Speaker 5: have been through a lot, said you lost your friends
21:50
Speaker 5: and then go the rest of your dad. So you
21:52
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, You've been through a lot of shit. Yeah,
21:55
Speaker 5: So are we getting the personal getting the pain?
21:57
Speaker 2: Definite? Definitely.
21:58
Speaker 4: I'm speaking about like everything I feel like I've I
22:02
Speaker 4: covered a lot in this album. I'm really talking about
22:05
Speaker 4: a lot, a lot, A lot, a lot, and it
22:09
Speaker 4: makes me feel good though, you know what I'm saying.
22:11
Speaker 4: Like it's like rap always been a form of like
22:13
Speaker 4: therapy for me, you know what I'm saying. So it's
22:15
Speaker 4: like certain I don't really like when I'm in the studio,
22:19
Speaker 4: I just rap, and just like I got to a
22:23
Speaker 4: point in my life in my career where I don't
22:25
Speaker 4: think about like how people gonn receive it, like how
22:29
Speaker 4: the world gonna receive it, how my family gonna receive
22:33
Speaker 4: it or whatever. I just speak about whatever is on
22:35
Speaker 4: my mind and go from there. You fee what I'm saying,
22:38
Speaker 4: And that's how I picked the records. You feel what
22:40
Speaker 4: I'm saying, and I don't. I'm saying that to say,
22:43
Speaker 4: like I don't really realize all the shit I'm talking
22:47
Speaker 4: about and what I cover until I'm hearing it.
22:49
Speaker 2: Like I'm a.
22:49
Speaker 4: Speaker, you know what I'm saying, I just go in
22:52
Speaker 4: the studio and rap and like he had a week later,
22:55
Speaker 4: two weeks later, like damn, I just said some shit
22:58
Speaker 4: like like yeah, now for sure that this album is.
23:03
Speaker 2: And you know, artists say this all the time.
23:05
Speaker 4: I feel like I always feel like this, but like
23:08
Speaker 4: you would say, like, oh, you're this is one of
23:10
Speaker 4: my best projects, Like I don't I'm not even gonna
23:12
Speaker 4: say this is my best project or my best body
23:14
Speaker 4: of work. I really don't feel like it's my best
23:16
Speaker 4: body of work. But I just feel like it's my
23:18
Speaker 4: best era of rap. I feel like I'm rapping better
23:22
Speaker 4: than I ever rapped before. Like however they receive it
23:25
Speaker 4: or whoever feel like this project better than this one
23:27
Speaker 4: or not, Like I just know for a fact I'm
23:30
Speaker 4: rapping so good and I gave it my all for sure.
23:33
Speaker 1: That therapeutic was this album though, in regard to your
23:36
Speaker 1: grieving process, because I hear you mention your brother a lot,
23:38
Speaker 1: especially on Give It All? How did that help?
23:43
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie that I've been dealing with DELF
23:46
Speaker 4: since I was a kid. Bro Like I lost I
23:49
Speaker 4: started losing friends when I was like fourteen years old,
23:53
Speaker 4: you know, like, and I'm talking about that. I'm touching
23:55
Speaker 4: on that my and my album, my project. But you
23:59
Speaker 4: gotta really like realize I'm thirty years old. I've been
24:02
Speaker 4: losing people I love for fifteen years and still managing
24:07
Speaker 4: to wake up and make it happen and beg herbo
24:11
Speaker 4: and take pictures and smile for the fans, Like I
24:14
Speaker 4: really didn't lost some of my best friends and had
24:17
Speaker 4: to go do a show that same day, you know
24:19
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like my homie Cap died twenty fifteen,
24:22
Speaker 4: I had to perform in front of ten thousand people.
24:24
Speaker 4: I just had to find an emmy. A lot of
24:26
Speaker 4: people can't do that. A lot of people like, man,
24:27
Speaker 4: I just lost my homie. Fuck this shit, I'm gonna
24:29
Speaker 4: go spind like I want to go do the show.
24:33
Speaker 4: So it's like, I feel like I'm really destined for
24:36
Speaker 4: this shit. I chose my own destiny, I chose my
24:38
Speaker 4: own path. And I'm saying that, like for me, they
24:42
Speaker 4: experience all of that death and feel like I was
24:45
Speaker 4: numb to it. When my little brother died, it changed
24:48
Speaker 4: my life. That was some of the worst pain that
24:50
Speaker 4: I ever felt in my life.
24:51
Speaker 2: Ever.
24:54
Speaker 4: I could never I never could fathom like and I'm
24:58
Speaker 4: a street nigga. Like when I wake up, when I
25:00
Speaker 4: walk out the house, I feel like I'm gonna die,
25:03
Speaker 4: like you know, like I really feel like that, and
25:05
Speaker 4: that's what get me home. You feel what I'm saying,
25:07
Speaker 4: Like every step, every move that I take is calculated.
25:10
Speaker 4: And I never felt like he was gonna die, you
25:13
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, no bullshit. I never ever
25:16
Speaker 4: think like him. Hell no, I just I never.
25:19
Speaker 2: Thought he was going to die.
25:20
Speaker 4: Every day I wake out, wake up, I really feel
25:22
Speaker 4: like I'm gonna die. I feel like somebody would do
25:24
Speaker 4: something to me. And that's just the life I live.
25:27
Speaker 3: And that's just you still feel like that because I
25:28
Speaker 3: remember the last day you said you feel like that.
25:30
Speaker 2: You said you were going to therapy to help you,
25:32
Speaker 2: and it helped me with it helped me with it.
25:35
Speaker 2: But like, nah, hell no.
25:37
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that even going through therapy and and
25:42
Speaker 4: like growing and healing the way that I've healed in
25:45
Speaker 4: my life, I'm kind of glad that I never lost
25:49
Speaker 4: that edge for real, because that's how I protect myself,
25:52
Speaker 4: That's how I protect my children, that's how I make
25:54
Speaker 4: sure I get back home. You feel I'm saying like,
25:57
Speaker 4: and I'm not out here thuging. I ain't wild, and
26:00
Speaker 4: I ain't doing no crazy shit. Some days I leave
26:01
Speaker 4: the house and it just be just me by myself,
26:04
Speaker 4: no security, nothing, But I'm still on point. I'm still
26:07
Speaker 4: watching my back, I'm still aware of my surroundings. You
26:10
Speaker 4: feel I'm saying. So it's like I'm glad that I
26:13
Speaker 4: never lost that edge for real, for real, And when
26:15
Speaker 4: like going back to what you know what I'm saying,
26:16
Speaker 4: what you said, Charla Magne, Like when I when my
26:19
Speaker 4: little brother died, I lost myself, Like I became an alcoholic,
26:24
Speaker 4: like a badass alcoholic. I never used to drink bro
26:27
Speaker 4: I used to drink a fifth of liquor every single day,
26:30
Speaker 4: like every day by myself.
26:32
Speaker 2: Like, and.
26:34
Speaker 4: My girl was pregnant when he died, you feel me, like,
26:39
Speaker 4: and I was like I was trying to like.
26:43
Speaker 2: Not be that weak around her.
26:45
Speaker 4: You feel me because she she know I didn't been
26:47
Speaker 4: through shit, like she didn't been around me, and I
26:49
Speaker 4: didn't lost homies.
26:50
Speaker 2: You feel what I'm saying, Like, and.
26:53
Speaker 4: She used to like say shit like snap out of it,
26:56
Speaker 4: like you feel me like she used to like say it.
26:58
Speaker 2: But it's like I can't. It was just so hard
27:00
Speaker 2: for me.
27:01
Speaker 4: I really couldn't for real, Like I used to have
27:02
Speaker 4: to leave the house just to go cry, like swear
27:04
Speaker 4: to God, like just go get in the con just
27:07
Speaker 4: cry for hours straight because I ain't want to do
27:09
Speaker 4: that in front of her. And I felt like I
27:11
Speaker 4: should have. I should have, I should have, but I
27:15
Speaker 4: was like.
27:16
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just And when she said snap
27:18
Speaker 5: out of it, what does she mean, like.
27:20
Speaker 4: Not snap out of the grief, snap out of the healing,
27:23
Speaker 4: snap out of the crashing out like drinking, drinking every
27:26
Speaker 4: day and wanting to go to the club and just
27:29
Speaker 4: feel something because I really can't.
27:31
Speaker 2: Feel nothing, you know what I'm saying.
27:32
Speaker 4: Like that was like that's what she used to tell
27:34
Speaker 4: me to snap out of and it was like it
27:37
Speaker 4: was hard, man, I ain't gonna lie.
27:39
Speaker 1: Did people in your family try to like blame you because,
27:43
Speaker 1: you know, for whatever reason, when you're the person that
27:45
Speaker 1: made it when something bad go happen, they feel like
27:48
Speaker 1: your success and your money could have kept that person
27:50
Speaker 1: from being in that situation.
27:52
Speaker 4: Nah, not really for real, for real, Like honestly, they didn't.
27:56
Speaker 4: And that was like the the biggest blessing. Nobody ever
28:00
Speaker 4: blamed me for real, real, And I had a conversation
28:03
Speaker 4: with my grandma and I said this when I did
28:05
Speaker 4: the This Ship with Shannon Sharp, I just did an
28:11
Speaker 4: interview with him. And I had a conversation with my
28:15
Speaker 4: grandma and she made me like she It was one
28:19
Speaker 4: of the conversations that made me snap out of drinking
28:23
Speaker 4: and crashing out because she like, man, I already lost him.
28:27
Speaker 2: I'm not finna lose you to this shit. You feel
28:31
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
28:31
Speaker 4: And she didn't blame me, but like it was like
28:36
Speaker 4: my little brother was real, like good nigga, a solid nigga.
28:41
Speaker 4: And I know for a fact he got killed because
28:43
Speaker 4: somebody wanted to hurt me. For sure, it wasn't my fault.
28:46
Speaker 4: But she like, you gotta do it the right way,
28:51
Speaker 4: like if you felsh Like no, everybody we grieve and
28:55
Speaker 4: we all going through the same shit, but you can't
28:57
Speaker 4: grieve like that, like you gotta go make it like
29:00
Speaker 4: you gotta make this shit happen for him, because it's
29:03
Speaker 4: like he not finna die vain, you feel me like
29:06
Speaker 4: that was the conversation that she held me, and that
29:08
Speaker 4: shit just turned me up and one of the last
29:11
Speaker 4: conversations I sort of got. My brother died at eleven
29:15
Speaker 4: am or some shit. We was texting at four or
29:18
Speaker 4: five in the morning. My last conversation with him was
29:21
Speaker 4: just like, Bro, I don't want to do nothing to
29:22
Speaker 4: see you win, Like I ain't never ask you for nothing,
29:25
Speaker 4: like he never really asked me for no money. Everything
29:28
Speaker 4: I ever gave him, everything we ever did was just
29:30
Speaker 4: like a bonus like that. Nigga never asked me for
29:33
Speaker 4: no money ever. He never asked me like give me this,
29:36
Speaker 4: buy me this, put me on, do this, do that,
29:38
Speaker 4: And he been with me every step of the way.
29:40
Speaker 4: You feel me, he just enjoyed the fruit of my label.
29:43
Speaker 4: That Nigga literally never asked me for no money ever
29:46
Speaker 4: in life. And our last conversation was, Bro, I just
29:49
Speaker 4: want to see you win, like I just want you
29:51
Speaker 4: to do this shit.
29:52
Speaker 2: And we was.
29:52
Speaker 4: Talking back and forth, and I saw to God the
29:54
Speaker 4: next morning that Nigga died.
29:56
Speaker 1: So so were you blaming yourself That's why you was
29:58
Speaker 1: trying to escape?
30:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I was definitely blaming myself because I
30:05
Speaker 4: just felt like and I used to have these conversations
30:07
Speaker 4: with him, like I used to really tell him. And
30:08
Speaker 4: that's the reason why I had to go back and
30:11
Speaker 4: think and reflect because I used to tell that nigga.
30:13
Speaker 2: Like, bro, move to La, like he got kids, just
30:15
Speaker 2: like I got kids.
30:16
Speaker 4: I used to really tell that nigga, like, man, go
30:19
Speaker 4: back and take care of them every now and then,
30:21
Speaker 4: or do whatever you need to do. Send that shit
30:23
Speaker 4: like Bro, just come with me, please, Like I used
30:26
Speaker 4: to have that conversation with him, like Bro, just come
30:28
Speaker 4: to La, move to La, like please just come out here.
30:30
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying because I know what that
30:34
Speaker 4: shit like, Bro, Like you feel what I'm saying Like
30:35
Speaker 4: I used to. I used to talk to that nigga
30:37
Speaker 4: and be like, Bro, just stop going back for real,
30:40
Speaker 4: for real, because I'm thinking about that shit like he
30:44
Speaker 4: he my brother was in the streets, but I feel
30:46
Speaker 4: like he was just naive to the fact like he
30:48
Speaker 4: really like like I said, like I used to leave
30:49
Speaker 4: out the house and feel like I'm gonna die every day.
30:52
Speaker 2: He didn't have that man set. He didn't think like that.
30:55
Speaker 4: You feel me, I used to think like that, and
30:57
Speaker 4: it's scammy, Like I hate to see somebody I love
30:59
Speaker 4: walking like man, this nigga could die like you feel
31:02
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I was blaming myself in a
31:06
Speaker 4: way because I just felt like I should have, well
31:09
Speaker 4: I could have. I ain't gonna say I should have,
31:10
Speaker 4: Like I felt like I could have just like changed
31:13
Speaker 4: everybody in life by force.
31:15
Speaker 2: And you can't do that.
31:16
Speaker 4: You can't feel like you could save everybody, you know
31:18
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And I stopped blaming myself when I
31:23
Speaker 4: just realized that, like I realized, like you, like it
31:26
Speaker 4: was nothing I could do for real, like I used
31:28
Speaker 4: to really I used to think, like that's why I
31:30
Speaker 4: was so fucked up, because I felt like even me
31:32
Speaker 4: being g Herbo, being an artist, being a star, I
31:35
Speaker 4: wish I was really with him when that shit happened,
31:37
Speaker 4: because it wouldn't have happened like that, Like I would
31:40
Speaker 4: have put my life on the line. I would have
31:41
Speaker 4: put everything on the line one thousand percent, like the scenario.
31:45
Speaker 2: On how he died.
31:47
Speaker 4: I feel like if I was you can't feel like that,
31:50
Speaker 4: like cause you know you're thinking about every.
31:51
Speaker 2: Scenario like I'm thinking, like if it was me in there,
31:53
Speaker 2: like it probably wouldn't have happened like that. I would
31:56
Speaker 2: have did this this way.
31:57
Speaker 4: But you don't know like, you know what I'm saying
31:58
Speaker 4: God is that like he's he is the person who
32:02
Speaker 4: control your destiny and say, how like shit happened. But
32:05
Speaker 4: I'm thinking about that, and it's like I really used
32:07
Speaker 4: to like really wish I was with him, Like I
32:10
Speaker 4: just really felt like I wish Like still to this day,
32:13
Speaker 4: I really wish I just would have been there, like
32:15
Speaker 4: because I feel like it wouldn't have happened that way.
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Speaker 3: But how do you stop yourself haashing out right? Like
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Speaker 3: we've seen it with Gilly and the Bad. One of
32:22
Speaker 3: the worst things about the internet is the internet to
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Speaker 3: make you you you lose yourself right here. They'll trick
32:26
Speaker 3: you into taking you off the street.
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Speaker 2: How did you say?
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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm just gonna stay focused and grieve
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Speaker 3: my brother, but still focus on my family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because a lot.
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Speaker 3: Of times people are like, now, I gotta get my
32:35
Speaker 3: I gotta get my get back, I gotta do this,
32:37
Speaker 3: I gotta do that, and it put you in So.
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Speaker 4: We're talking about like what I what I said on
32:41
Speaker 4: the interview I just did with Gilly.
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Speaker 2: It's like.
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Speaker 4: Naturally, it's like every action deserves a reaction, and I
32:51
Speaker 4: come from a place where it's like you gotta react
32:54
Speaker 4: like certain shit you do, Like even if you like
32:58
Speaker 4: some shit might happen to you today and you make
33:01
Speaker 4: it home when you get in the house, you're thinking
33:04
Speaker 4: about what the people gonna say, like what the.
33:07
Speaker 2: Hood gonna say when I come back, I gotta do something.
33:09
Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, and I want them niggas
33:11
Speaker 4: like me personally, if I go to sleep, like with
33:14
Speaker 4: it on my mind, like if I'm thinking about it
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Speaker 4: all day, I'm gonna have.
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Speaker 2: To do something like for real, for real, Like if that.
33:21
Speaker 4: Shit stay on my brain and I think about it
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Speaker 4: three times, full times, five times, that's what I feel
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Speaker 4: like it is eligible for me to not crash out
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Speaker 4: but react because I'm never gonna crash out because if
33:32
Speaker 4: I was. I feel like the definition of when people
33:35
Speaker 4: say like crash out is when you react right then
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Speaker 4: off emotion.
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Speaker 2: That's a crash out.
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Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like whatever I do to you,
33:42
Speaker 4: if I didn't thought about this shit and calculating my
33:44
Speaker 4: steps and whatever consequences happened behind that, that's not a
33:47
Speaker 4: crash out because.
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Speaker 2: I'm a choice. I'm okay with what happens.
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Speaker 4: You fee what I'm saying like and for me, like
33:54
Speaker 4: how I stop myself from doing that? Is like certain
33:57
Speaker 4: shit is not worth it. Like I know for sure,
34:00
Speaker 4: I know my power, I know what I could do,
34:02
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's like certain shit is
34:04
Speaker 4: just like I'm automatically like not a person that like confrontation.
34:08
Speaker 4: I hate confrontation because I only know how to deal
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Speaker 4: with it one of two ways. Somebody gotta fight or
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Speaker 4: die or something, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
34:16
Speaker 4: only know how to approach it that way. Like I'm
34:18
Speaker 4: not a person that could have a two hour long
34:20
Speaker 4: conversation about something and get to the bottom of it.
34:23
Speaker 2: That's just not me.
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Speaker 4: So I avoid it every chance I could get, you
34:27
Speaker 4: feel I'm saying. So it's like, just you gotta know yourself.
34:30
Speaker 4: You gotta know like you you gotta know when people
34:34
Speaker 4: say things or try to push your buttons and just.
34:36
Speaker 2: Let them have it.
34:37
Speaker 4: Like I don't care about nobody saying I'm a pump
34:39
Speaker 4: or nobody saying.
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Speaker 2: I'm a bitch or none of that type of shit.
34:42
Speaker 4: And I used to for sure you feel what I'm saying,
34:44
Speaker 4: But it's like at this point, I just think about
34:46
Speaker 4: my kids, like literally, That's the main reason why I
34:49
Speaker 4: don't do crazy shit because I think about my kids.
34:52
Speaker 2: It's like, my kids don't understand what I got going on.
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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, My kids don't understand if
34:57
Speaker 4: I end up in jailing them be like, what the
34:59
Speaker 4: fuck how my daddy go?
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Speaker 2: And I know what put me in jail, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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Speaker 4: Like, I know what got me there, I know what
35:05
Speaker 4: I did, But a lot of times people don't explain
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Speaker 4: that to their kids, you feel what I'm saying, And
35:09
Speaker 4: being a father, like you gotta be transparent as with
35:13
Speaker 4: your kids, like with like that, Like if you make
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Speaker 4: a crazy decision or life changing decision, you got to
35:18
Speaker 4: explain that to your kids for real, for real, so
35:21
Speaker 4: they don't make the decision, so they understand why my
35:23
Speaker 4: dad and not coming home all that type of shit.
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Speaker 2: So I just