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Wild Card Recap · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It all starts right now. Welcome back, 573.
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My name is Kyle. This is Nate.
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You know. Yeah, you know the drill,
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Chinook. Cedery shot him out.
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Yep. That's all I got.
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That's all I got, buddy. That's all I got in the tank,
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honestly. Good for you, though.
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I you've been hitting me with this grin literally since we got
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on the call. And I told you before this
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series started and we're this isn't going to just be a Red Sox
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Yankee. Like we're going to talk all
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things wild card. But I told you before this
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series started, I said, make it sting one way or another.
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Win or lose one of us. We need to get back to we we got
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to stop at this whole like, well, we just got to respect
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each other's privacy and feelings during a loss.
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Like, no, forget that. We need to get back to the way
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this series with this rivalry was intended to be.
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We need to be throwing jabs each other during the game.
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Didn't really happen, but this grin that you've been hit me
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with since we got on this call basically made-up for all of
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that not happening. So honestly, good for you for
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following through because honestly, this is what it took
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for you to get back on the horse.
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As they say. I'm you know what?
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That's, I guess that's a what I'm willing, that's, that's a
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loss I'm willing to take. So you know what?
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I'm glad to have you back in it. Glad to have you.
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You feeling something again? Because I mean, my goodness, the
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Yankees were in the World Series last year and you were still
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lifeless. But I think all it took was
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taking care of business against Boston, something that hasn't
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been done since, what, the early 2000s?
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Unshone. Yep, there we go.
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Before I start in down any path here I just I want to give it
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give it up. Happy happy birthday to the kid.
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What a happy big birthday for the boy.
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I'm so glad. Look, I'll just say this big
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gift. I'll say this as as someone who
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had the blessing in this past weekend of just having an
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awesome getaway weekend with his wife and his dog in Boston,
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catching a playoff, a post season clinching game, and then
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the game at the next day when the boys were hungover as could
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be fully expecting a loss. It was just a great weekend.
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It was A to celebrate my birthday, 'cause she said, well,
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your birthday falls on a Thursday, so we got to do
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something the weekend before. I'm like, that sounds awesome.
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So go to Boston and then today she runs out this morning before
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I could even get out of bed. She's like, how do you take your
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Dunkin coffee again? 2 creams, 2 sugars and I'm like
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in a daze. I'm like yes, that sounds great.
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She runs out, brings back a a Dunkin iced and a Boston cream
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and then we go out to get Tex Mex tonight in my favorite spot.
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So like, fortunately I got the birthday was taken care of, but
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this may as well have been. Just erased all of it.
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No, no, none of it's a race. But I'm just glad I got all of
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those things in before. I'm just glad this happened at
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the end of the day and this wasn't like a 1:00 PM game or
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something crazy. But more on that later.
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More on that. Later, I just wanted to give a a
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big birthday shout out to the. Kids.
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Hey, thanks 32. I caught up to you now.
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It feels good. Well, could have felt better,
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but you know. It feels a certain way.
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I don't know if good is the. Of all the feelings, it's one of
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them, you know. I I think you're in a tough spot
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having a birthday in October for any, any season that, you know,
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maybe not doesn't have your team included like mine's in May.
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I think this year was like the first year in like a decade that
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the Yankees didn't play on my birthday.
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And that's all I ever say. Yeah, that's all I ever say is
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just one of the Yankees dub on my birthday.
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But they missed mine. And they and like I dump on your
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birthday. Like I said, this is AI guess
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this is a loss I'm willing to take if it if this gets you if
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this gets you back into things if this this is nice if this is
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what rights your ship. You know what I'll I'll step
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aside this time around. Any who's let's let's just run
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through things in order as as the previous two days progressed
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you. Want to say as they finished
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you, you, you got it. You run it.
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You run the. What do you mean as they
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finished? Well, I mean, I don't.
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Wasn't sure if you wanted to hit the Dodgers Reds first because
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it was just two. Games no, because that's the
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that's the that's the series I care least about and well, I
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mean that we have some thoughts. I mean, we definitely got to, we
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got, we got to get to that series.
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But I mean, may as well save it for last.
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Like if we got a few minutes at the end, I don't know.
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We'll see. All I'm just going to put a
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disclosure out. Disclaimer, disclosure.
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Disclaimer. Full disclosure.
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Full disclosure Disclaimer Putting a disclaimer out?
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Yep. That's yeah, these these rounds
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are tough for me just work wise, like games starting at 10.
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You're not alone. It's it's tough.
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So I. Like I'm not going to sit here
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and act like I can break down every inning and every move.
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Maybe things are a little bit different if my team isn't in
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the postseason, Both my team being in the postseason, being
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like super tapped into my game. That's all.
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That's my disclaimer. We've look, if you're new,
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listen up. If you've been following us for
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some time, here's a reminder. For far too long, we tried to be
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those guys that were just super tapped in and we're like, we got
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to know that. We got to know the stats, we got
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to know the advanced analytics, we got to know the savants.
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Yeah, we have full time jobs like.
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You. We are you listening.
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If you, we are you. We just have microphones and a
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camera. We are literally you.
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And honestly, even if we didn't like I just I, I try to imagine
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things as if we didn't have this podcast, if we haven't been
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doing this show, if we hadn't been doing this show since what,
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2018? Like what are the things that I
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would talk about at the proverbial water cooler
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tomorrow? Like I'm not, I'm not doing a
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deep dive into why I thought Ben Rice should have been in the
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lineup in in game one versus like I'm not, I, I don't care.
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Like I want to talk, I want to talk narratives.
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I want to talk storylines. I want to talk about things
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that, you know, the average fans talk about.
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And, and this is just a great example of that.
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Like there's a lot of baseball going on specifically in this
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round, like you said, and we have full time jobs.
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This is not our full time job yet.
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However, I know that, like I said, you're not alone.
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I I was fortunate enough because I, I have flexibility with work
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and remote and things like I can at least have things on in the
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background, but like I'm still not tapped in.
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And I know most people that have jobs that require their
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attention pretty much the entire day don't have the luxury of
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being able to catch these games, especially if they're in
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different time zones. With that said, let's talk.
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Let's talk about the most inconvenient series of the wild
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card round. Tigers Guardians 1:00 PM start
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time, Eastern. Those are tough.
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That's crazy. I didn't even think about that
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until now. If you If you're a West Coast
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Tigers Guardians fan, that's a. It's 10:00 AM, That's a 10 AM
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That's like smack dab in the middle of like, oh, you just got
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through your emails, Then you're having to like start your work
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day because you finished responding to all your stupid
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emails from the day before. That's exactly at that time.
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Look, and I know if you're hearing me say they're going to,
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there's 1:00 PM games throughout the year, all regular season.
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Yeah, during the regular season, I don't really think twice about
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it. I'm like, oh, that's just the
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time that W coasters watched 1:00 PM Eastern games.
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But it's just weird to think about through the lens of the
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postseason, that's all. Anyway, let's talk Tigers
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guardians here like 30 minutes into the episode.
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Let's get into it. Look, I'm I'm here to
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acknowledge both of us hand up. We're here to acknowledge when
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we're wrong, which is a lot. But you guys still TuneIn and
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listen. So maybe it's our our maybe you
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guys are stupid. Well, I was just going to say,
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maybe it's like our our, our humor, our charm, our charisma
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that keeps people around because clearly our our takes aren't
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what do it. Or you know what, what gets it
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done. However, yes, we were wrong.
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We both went guardians for this match up.
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However, I don't know it this just it just it felt it felt
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like such a a snoozer of a series.
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And I know that that's going to upset some people, but like, I
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went back rant, crunched the numbers, even pulled out a
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calculator to make sure the Tigers were outscored. 8:50 But
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when you think about the fact that they actually won the
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series. Yeah.
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I feel like the Tigers outscored the Guardians like 12 to 3.
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Yeah. I don't know what it was about
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it, but it like people were coming at me out for my comments
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where I was like it's scuba and then who else?
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And I'm like, well it's if you look back at the series, it just
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felt like the Guardians offense was non existent.
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But in reality they outscored the Tigers this series.
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It just did not feel that way. So I don't know what it was in
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particular about this series that had me just not like the
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juices just were not flowing honestly.
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I, I, I don't know if it's a psychological thing.
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Post season day games just don't get get me where I need to be.
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And like, I get it, like you, there's only so much you can do
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scheduling wise. Like there, it's a month long
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journey, right? And you got to do what you got
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to do. I, I, I like the fact that it
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like it carries right in right. You get one day off from the end
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of the regular season. We get right into it.
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But I think it's just, there's somewhat of a victim of that.
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There's like it's, it's Midwest versus Midwest.
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It's just, I don't know, it's the AO central.
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And and I think we all kind of got bamboozled with like the
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entire story of the Tigers collapse.
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And like, and now looking back, being so confident in choosing
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the Guardians, It's like it's not like the Guardians just
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really took the division by storm.
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Like you know how they always say, like, did they did?
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Did this team lose it or did the other team win it?
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Right. And and the Tigers lost this
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division. That's what we.
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Said, I don't think the Guardians won this division and
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I know they won the division, but like, you get what I'm
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saying. So I, I think it was just kind
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of a victim of the narrative a little bit.
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And, and overall it's just like, I, I think we just got to remind
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ourselves that like no disrespect, but the AL Central
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sucks. It sucks.
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So I, the guardians, I mean like it.
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We're sitting here talking about Rokyo, no disrespect again, but
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like a guy with like 600, 650 OPS or whatever you had this
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year, it's like. I mean, dudes had some moments.
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We got to give it to him. He's had good moments, but it's
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just like, I, I don't know, I mean, even.
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At the at, at the risk of putting my foot in my mouth
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again, at honestly, if you're listening, if you're watching,
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look me in the digital eyes. However, you're consuming this
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and tell me that you genuinely believe either one of these
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teams, had either team, had it been Tigers, had it been
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Guardians, that either one of these teams was going to is
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going to the World Series after what you just saw?
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I mean, come on. Can't.
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You can't. I mean, honestly, great on the
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Tigers for avoiding the worst collapse narrative because the
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the second that series is over, that goes out the window because
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it what was it about? It was about.
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I I mean, granted, the narrative was, you know, in theory over 1
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the the second they clinched in in Boston, but it's.
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Like this? Put this, put it to bed.
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Oh, for sure, yeah. The fact that you move on to the
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next, the next step, the next stage, it's like, OK, then you
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you wipe the slate clean. Now you're just another one of
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the you're another team in the dance moving on.
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But you know, good. Like I was saying, good on the
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tigers for for right in that ship.
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But I I still stand by what I said, like I I know that they
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minimize the guardians offense. You know, All in all, but I'm
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I'm just still I don't know, like I'm I I watching this
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Tigers team. I just wasn't in like this.
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This was an inspiring ball. Tara Schuble did went out and
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did exact for all the people being like you really wrote the
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Tigers off. No, I said it's Tara Schuble and
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then who else When Tara Schuble goes out and sets a career high
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in strikeouts in game one, I said, OK, following the script.
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That's exactly what was supposed to happen.
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And you know, no disrespect to the Tigers, that's a 21 game at
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the end of it. So like you, you were very close
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to risking, you know, wasting that start, which would have
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been humiliating. But you got you.
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You get the win. Like I said, 14 KS from school.
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You do what you had to do. I'm thinking, OK, that just
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means the Guardians got to win the next two.
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They go out, win game two. I'm like, OK, this is Step 2 of
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the script. Game 3.
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You just fell a little bit a little bit short.
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But I'm still I I still stand by what I said, you know, regarding
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what the tigers are are bringing to the table in a lot in a in a
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lengthier series, whether you know, they could go on a run and
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like I said, make me look like an idiot once again.
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But I still, I still just do not think that this Tigers team with
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the way they played for the last month plus of the season, I just
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I don't know if they had if this team has the legs.
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I I agree. And, and if you kind of sit
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there and just play match up against the Mariners, who are
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very deep, I don't. Know who everybody's loving
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right now, by the way? Like it seems to be like the
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popular popular pick. Lot of lot of bail Pennant picks
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going towards towards the Mariners for the guards.
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I mean, look, it's just it's the same old story.
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It's the same old story until they get some other offense in
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that lineup that I'm talking like big picture.
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I'm not just talking in the under the microscope of this
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series. Like until they are able to get
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more punch in that lineup to support Jose Ramirez.
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It's it's just I think the falling short of the finish line
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is just going to be their story. And I got to applaud them for
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coming back, winning the division.
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I especially losing but closer who got Cy Young votes last
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year, you know, to a very odd and unforeseen and unknown
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future for what that looks like. So I mean, Cleveland is just I
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have no idea what they are. They could be the exact same.
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You could run this back the exact same next year and not be
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surprised. They kind of remind me of like
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the mid two 2015 to 2019 A's where they're just like they
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kind of just get in and then they lose in the first round.
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They get in, they lose in the first round.
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It's just. And then the team that matches
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up with them is jumping for joy because they realize that it's
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essentially a buy that they can just count on advancing to the
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next. The next time, I mean, that's
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yeah, that's kind of how it like it's like the twins and the A's.
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It's just no disrespect. That's why.
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That's how it goes when they get in the postseason.
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That's why people were ridiculing the I mean, credit to
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them, the Yankees did what they had to do last year.
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But the the the Yankees. Was crazy easy.
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Yeah, yeah, it, it was the central, was it not?
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It was the, it was the Guardians.
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And then did they match up against for?
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Sure. Was it Detroit?
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OK, yeah. So it's like, or was it Kansas
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City? It was Kansas City, then
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Cleveland. That's what it was.
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Yeah, so I mean, it's like, look, I'm not, I'm not here to
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crap up. Did.
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The first seed and bye. Yeah, like I'm not here to crap
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on the on the on the central, but it's like I.
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Was just. It is what it is.
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And and I mean, there, there were comments in our in our
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group chat. It was just like, this is kind
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of what happens when you when you have this amount of games
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against, you know, the White Sox and, and the central kind of
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comes down to this like, oh, it's, it's competitive down
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there down the stretch and. It's just the same.
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Story every year. And it's just like, I don't
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know, none of these teams really do it for me, ever.
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I, I mean, I, I just want to go on record as saying like, I want
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to be optimistic and believe that the central can be
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something, but I also need to not get so caught up in the
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storyline surrounding the Tigers, the potential of the
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guardians, the what could be with the, with the Royals at
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times, like we've seen, we've seen these teams have moments.
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So, so I need to be better about tempering my expectations so
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that when when the the the division collectively falls
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short, that I'm not surprised they're like, OK, like this is
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kind of what they are. We've seen what they could be,
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but this is as a division still not much progress made.
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Yeah, that's all I'll say. I.
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Mean reconfiguration coming soon, so realignment.
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Tip of the cap. Shakes it up.
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We shall see. Tip of the cap to the Tigers.
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I didn't. Proved us wrong then.
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Good luck I guess. Hey, shout out to shout out to
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rookie though. I know you do you see the vid,
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the vid I put out? He got that pic and people were
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like there's no way a dog went with the kiddies.
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I said he knows ball like. He does.
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He's he just knows ball that like Corgi that hits the ball
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like down the stairs. You think about doing some kind
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of similar setup. I thought about that after I
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posted the videos, like maybe, yeah, maybe figure out.
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I'll think on that. Yeah.
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I mean, I don't want to do the baskets. 2 treats, 2 treats.
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There you go. That's simple.
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That's what you're doing. I don't.
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Think you don't need to reinvite the wheel here, you know?
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Oh. Thank God that's a good thought.
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Yeah, you could have. You could have like the whole
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like, what's that? You know the trick they do with
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kids where it's like come to mom, come to dad, or like you
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and Meredith just walk separate directions and see which way
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Rookie chooses. That gives you to a couple
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answers. You then have a winner that's
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going to be selected and then you understand who your dog
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loves more. 22 big questions getting answered for you.
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Yeah, but that means I would have to slap a Yankees logo on
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Meredith because I know I'm certainly not putting it on
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myself in this scenario. Are you worried?
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Are you worried that Rookie would choose Meredith?
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No, I'm just saying the like the the literal act of having to put
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a Yankees logo on Meredith would just be something I don't know
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if I can pull myself to do. You gotta do what you gotta.
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Do man, but we'll see. We'll see.
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I like the treat idea. That's that's wise.
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That's wise. Good stuff.
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I'll, I'll think on it. Padres Cubs moving right along.
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This was the 3:00 Eastern game, 33333 o'clock Eastern game, 4:00
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Eastern game. No 3:00 Eastern Game A.
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Little better. I mean the shadows the day games
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in Wrigley piss me off. I know they love them but like
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the shadows are stupid. Like it is such an altering.
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No, it's a huge element. It's a huge factor.
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But at the end of the day, like it is what it is and that like
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you saying it's one thing, but having it here at 75 times on
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the broadcast I'm. Didn't listen to broadcast so
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I'm I apologize. Honestly, great call.
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I was, you know, I was thinking that, look, sorry, I've got no
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filter tonight when I have a thought, I'm just letting it
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eat. That's fine.
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That was Mendoza and Mendoza. What's his face that does the
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Orioles game sometimes? Was that Ben McDonald or not Ben
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McDonald? He does the College World Series
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now. It's McDonald.
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What it's it's Ben, right? That's his first name.
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I think he actually does a good job.
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He does. Which by the way, did you see
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the thing? If you weren't listening, you
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didn't hear it. But did you see the whole thing
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about him with the NHL comments? Crazy.
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I was talking about I like him, I like him.
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Yeah, the real. He does if anyone's ever.
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I'm not a huge NHL guy, but like during the playoffs, I'll I'll
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throw it on. He is incredible in the NHL, no.
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No, no, no, no. Ben McDonald is the down home
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like I think he's. Is he from Louisiana?
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Yes, that guy. I don't know their names.
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Baton Rouge, LA Yeah, he no, we're talking about the same
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guy, Ben McDonald. He does.
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No, no, listen to what I'm saying.
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He does. You were right.
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He does the Orioles games. That's Ben McDonald, the down
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home. Baton Rouge, LA.
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His comments though, they they were doing an ad, read a promo
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for the NHL. Did you not hear about this?
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No. Whoever, whoever the main guy
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was for this, I I can't remember who the main lead was for that
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game, but they were doing like a read for the for upcoming the
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NHL season or whatever. And they're like, they looked
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over and like Ben, you're going to be, you're going to be
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watching, tuning into this, right?
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And he was like, he's like, there's zero chance I'm going to
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be watching that. Sean McDonough.
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Sean McDonough. That's.
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Right. That's where I was, Yeah.
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It's the McDonald versus McDonald or whatever.
24:42
Sean McDonough, Yeah, No, but they were.
24:45
I like. I like those too.
24:46
Mendoza just ruins everything. Continue.
24:49
Yeah, I I had that thought too. I was like, man, it's been a
24:51
minute since I heard Mendoza. Kind of unfortunate.
24:57
I just, I just don't like Mendoza.
24:59
It's not like a, it's not like a sexist thing.
25:01
I just I, she, she, she does, she tries to do too much where
25:06
it's like like just obvious comments on every.
25:09
It's like, yes, we're, we're all watching the same game.
25:11
Anyway. They asked Ben McDonald, they're
25:15
like, oh, you're going to be tuning into that hockey hockey
25:18
week or whatever. And he was like, there's zero
25:20
chance I'm going to be watching that.
25:22
And then like, you could tell that there was panic.
25:24
And then they go, well, no, you work for ESPN, so you're, you're
25:28
going to be tuning in, right? He goes, no, there's I, I can
25:31
tell you right now, there's zero chance.
25:33
And this is an ESPN broadcast. So they're just like panicking.
25:36
They're like, we don't really know what to do.
25:38
He's like, no, zero chance. I'm watching that.
25:39
Sorry. Like I I'll be somewhere, but
25:41
I'll tell you that it I will not be watching the hockey anyway.
25:45
That's why I like him. That was a funny.
25:48
But he knows ball. He knows ball.
25:50
Oh, he knows Ball for sure. He and he's smooth with it.
25:53
I actually like him a lot. Very smooth anyway.
25:57
Should we talk the baseball that was played?
26:00
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure.
26:02
Yep, Yep, Yep, definitely about it.
26:04
Let's talk Padres, Cubs. Look, another series.
26:10
Yeah, made the wrong pick on this one as well.
26:14
But like, I the people that are, you know, whether it's whether
26:20
it's Cubs fans or people that just didn't believe in our picks
26:24
of the Padres, like, do you really feel like validated?
26:29
This was just yet another instance where.
26:32
It is a pick em I. I don't think there was a heavy
26:35
favorite in the series. No.
26:36
And like, I don't know, like I saw somebody, somebody commented
26:41
on our wild, which by the way, this is my favorite when people
26:45
hit me up with comments on our picks after the literal the
26:49
series is over, the game had finished and somebody hits me
26:54
with what was it, Padres over the Cubs?
26:59
I'm like, first of all, it's a three-game series.
27:02
It went all three and offensively, another snoozefest.
27:07
I mean, the most runs scored in a game in this series was 3
27:13
from, you know, from from one team.
27:14
But like, OK, you got me. I don't know.
27:20
Like nobody ever knows. Your filter really is gone.
27:24
I like it, no. Like, yeah, it's late.
27:28
This was like the worst baseball game I've ever watched in my
27:31
life tonight. Just big culmination.
27:34
But it like that's that. That's my point here is like the
27:39
people that that went Cubs, first of all, if you went Cubs,
27:43
credit to you because again, looking at the way their season
27:49
finished, did you really feel confident about going Cubs in
27:53
this in this match up? I one thing I noticed during
27:57
this series. I believe not.
27:58
Was it felt somewhat mismanaged on both sides?
28:04
Super aggressive with with bullpen management.
28:11
Bullpen management, I mean like pressing that button or not
28:15
pressing that button. I think was it Game 2 that
28:22
Imanaga faced Manny Machado with first base open like left on
28:27
right and that home run ended up being the difference?
28:32
Like it odd there. We saw SHIELD go to the bullpen
28:39
really early and I don't know, man, it's just when you run
28:43
these guys out there three days in a row, these are these are
28:48
big league hitters that like you get to see those guys over and
28:51
over, like you're going to start to get a beat on him a little
28:53
bit. And I'm not saying that was the
28:57
reason, but like, I don't know, it's just oddly managed.
29:02
I thought a couple different scenarios.
29:05
Shout out Mason Miller, though. Dear Lord, Mason Miller was
29:09
disgusting. He finished with eight.
29:14
No pitcher had ever struck out more than six consecutive
29:17
hitters to begin their post season career.
29:19
He struck out his first eight. Unbelievable.
29:24
That's a decision. Now that's the like that's,
29:26
that's an example of what we're talking about here with with the
29:28
aggressiveness is that's easily. You burned him in the in the
29:34
6th, you know what I mean? Like.
29:36
Yeah, but like that what I was going to say is that's that's an
29:39
example of a decision where if it works out, great.
29:43
If it comes back to bite you, It's like people can easily
29:46
pinpoint that is like, why did you why did, why did she'll do
29:50
that? But you know, in a we talk about
29:54
this all the time in a shortened series, you just they they and
29:57
they talk about all these broadcasts all the time.
29:59
Like you just got to win that day and worry about tomorrow
30:04
tomorrow because and if you can, if you can move on to the
30:08
division series, like if if you do like it sucks because you're
30:13
you know your opponent is is waiting for you and all rested
30:16
up playing their SIM games. Oh, that was the other one too.
30:21
And I I get what you're saying. Like, yeah, I I understand.
30:23
It's just like if you have those buttons suppressed, especially
30:25
as the Padres like great bullpen, yeah, press that
30:28
button. I I understand that, but I
30:30
wasn't it. They ended up winning cause
30:34
Cease went Game 2 but he got yanked this second.
30:39
Someone caught on in like the third inning, he got yanked.
30:43
I think he made it through like 3 and a third or something like
30:45
that was in the fourth someone made it to second base and
30:47
they're like Yep, done. Darvish was gone in the second
30:51
Yeah, today in Game 3. I understand.
30:55
It's like, you know, who cares about tomorrow's situation, but
30:58
like, I don't know, I it felt oddly managed and I like I like
31:05
shield, but this just it didn't, I don't know, didn't check a lot
31:10
of boxes for me and Craig counsel.
31:12
I felt like kind of got bailed out in a couple situations too.
31:16
So we'll see. We'll see about this series.
31:21
Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah, I guess that's my take away is
31:25
like, you do what you can to win the game that day.
31:28
And he, he, he pulled all the stops game two, you shut out the
31:34
Cubs, but the, the Cubs were just better than you in game
31:42
three. And like, I know that's an
31:43
that's a simple obvious statement.
31:45
But if if you to your point, if you mismanage, if you're if
31:51
you're too aggressive with the button pushing and you're left
31:55
out to dry in game 3, yeah, I'm looking at it through the lens
32:00
of like if if you couldn't make it work in a in a in and and I'm
32:04
not saying the Padres wouldn't have been capable because that
32:06
bullpen is super deep. But like if you couldn't make it
32:09
work in a three-game series, how do you do you feel like that
32:14
would have panned out differently in A5 game series or
32:17
even A7 game series? But.
32:19
All right, real quick. We don't want to spend a ton of
32:20
time on it. Obviously we have the entire
32:22
offseason to to dive into them, but like kind of feels like
32:31
someone at the end of the Padres window.
32:35
I mean, you never know what color, but like you.
32:39
Know I don't know, I mean, I was watching.
32:40
Another year older, your daughters is another year older,
32:43
Manny is another year older, Manny is another year older.
32:45
Dude, I was is gone. Like I get the Tatis and
32:48
Merrill, it's probably their team now in a way, but like I
32:51
just it, it feels kind of stale. I was, that's the guy that I
32:56
think really stood out to me. I was like, dude, Machado has
32:59
been in the league now what? Going on 13/13/14 years.
33:04
I'm like, this is kind of a guy. He's just an example of a guy
33:09
that you're like, yeah, he's just, he's he's there, he's part
33:11
of the same. But we're kind of running out of
33:13
time to your point where it's like this window is closing and
33:18
it sounds like Preller. Well, it doesn't sound like
33:22
anything. It's just based on his history
33:25
that he's going to do whatever it takes to, you know, prolong,
33:28
extend this window to just continually give this team
33:32
chances, which, yeah, I said before, I respect.
33:35
I think more teams should should want that approach.
33:38
Yeah, I I'm not, I don't think there's I don't have anything
33:41
wrong or against Preller, I should say.
33:43
But yeah, it's just, I don't know this, this roster
33:46
configuration is now at that point where like, you know what
33:50
I mean? Like it's kind of like the
33:51
Phillies. Like if the Phillies don't win a
33:54
ring, it's like this, this kind of you're running the same old
33:59
guys back out there again. Yeah, and then the guys that you
34:03
that you bring in to supplement and and kind of keep things
34:07
afloat, the guys that you get rid of to, to do that, it's not
34:13
until after like the Padres, for example, now that the season's
34:16
over, now you now you look at it and go, OK, how are we feeling
34:20
about shipping out debris for from a guy like Mason Miller?
34:25
How do we now that we can look at it a little more objectively
34:28
and we're not just riding the high of like, Oh my goodness,
34:30
this bullpen is sick. We're going to be nasty in the
34:33
postseason. It's like, OK, do we still feel
34:37
that that was worth it? Because I mean, shoot yourself.
34:38
In the foot a little bit sometimes.
34:40
Yeah, and and I'm not saying I'm just using the mill, the Mason
34:43
mill thing as an example, but I'm just saying like you're
34:46
talking about this window closing and the Padres
34:48
presumably doing what they can to continue to do that, but it's
34:52
like until you you win the whole thing.
34:55
Yeah, that recipe has improving. Yeah, that's what you got to
34:59
weigh. I think they'll be in the hunt
35:01
for Pete Alonzo, by the way. I think it's time that they need
35:05
a first. They've needed a first baseman
35:07
for years. Louisa Rise is not the answer
35:10
long term, so yeah. Well, we don't.
35:15
I'm surprised that they get after that.
35:16
We don't need to get in a free agency, but real quick on that.
35:19
I I just think Pete's trying to play hardball like he's he, this
35:24
is like the most predictable, like high school relationship of
35:28
all time where you're just like trying to hurt the other
35:30
people's, like the other person's feelings.
35:33
And Pete like secretly wants to still be with the Mets.
35:37
Everybody knows it, but he's just, he's trying to get back.
35:41
He he went into desperation mode because the the clock was
35:45
ticking last offseason and it all worked out and he had a
35:47
great year. But now he's like, OK, now that
35:50
we can breathe. And again, 30 seconds after the
35:54
season's over, he's like, now's my chance to to really stick it
35:57
back at them, make them feel what I felt.
35:59
He's going to, he's going to still be with the Mets.
36:01
I'm I. Don't know, I'm not I feel.
36:03
So convinced this year. But anyway, I'm so convinced you
36:08
You sure you don't want to talk more about the Mets?
36:10
All done. I kind of want to keep talking
36:12
about the Mets. At least take six weeks off on
36:14
them. That's fair.
36:18
Speaking of taking weeks off, the Red Sox have been doing
36:21
plenty of that. The Series, the latest chapter
36:27
of the rivalry goes to your Yankees.
36:36
This is new territory for me. The Yankees handling business
36:41
against Red Sox in the postseason.
36:44
Truly, this is like it's been it's been a minute.
36:48
Had to had to dust off the the handbook for how to respond in
36:53
this situation, but I'm just going to.
36:56
You were just scratching and clawing at the moment.
36:59
I'm going to defer. I'm just going to defer to you
37:01
and give you the floor because that's the only thing I can
37:04
really think to do. So run with it, man.
37:08
Run with the ball, run with, run with it, Kev.
37:13
Well, I mean, after game one, like I was definitely down in
37:16
the dumps. It it I knew that crochet was
37:20
going to do what crochet. Does Garrett crochet?
37:26
I'm just kidding. Go for it.
37:29
But it felt I think the other aspects to it was that, you
37:32
know, like the bullpen, the Yankees bullpen kind of being a
37:37
little sketchy the way they have been throughout times this year.
37:40
It did start to kind of have that narrative of like here's
37:45
Cora out managing Boone yet again, Like it just kind of had
37:49
that build up to it. And in the series, obviously,
37:56
you know, go in the Yankees way. I there was just like, yeah,
38:01
it's sounds corny, but like This is why our game is a game of
38:04
inches because there's like even even today's game just seeing I
38:09
singles and you're seeing 3-4 hoppers get through the infield
38:13
and you know, you clanks off of gloves that like you could have
38:17
very easily seen that play made nine out of the 10 times, but
38:21
it's just this one that didn't get made.
38:23
You know, it just it had a lot of those moments on on both
38:27
sides, but just more on this side.
38:29
And you know, I mean, I, I, you can't not mention Kim Schlittler
38:36
tonight was awesome with like the rookies going head to head
38:40
like that early. Look good, dude.
38:43
Are you hyped about that kid 'cause?
38:45
Dude, I found out literally minutes, minutes before the game
38:49
started. He's actually a Virginia boy.
38:51
And he was. He literally went to high school
38:55
like an hour and a half from here and was a UVA kid as well,
39:00
which I. They were talking about him
39:01
going to West Point. He went to West Point at some
39:05
point. And then did he transfer to
39:08
EVAII? Don't know the full story.
39:10
I knew the UVA bit but I didn't realize he was he was a a local.
39:14
Wow, I heard something. Yeah, but he, I mean, he looked
39:17
good and it it had like I there was a lot of it was a fun game.
39:21
There was a lot of aspects to it.
39:26
There's a lot of, I mean, I was on the edge of my seat the whole
39:28
time. I did have the same piece of gum
39:30
the whole game. Like in fact, I, we were making
39:36
dinner real, like real quick dinner.
39:39
Put it together in like the 7th inning.
39:42
I like the pages. Like Babe, I've had this piece
39:44
of gum the whole game. Stuck it.
39:48
Stuck it to a paper plate while I was eating dinner just in case
39:52
I needed to go back to the gum mid dinner.
39:58
Luckily didn't have to do that. I.
40:00
Mean it's fair. I was changing shirts trying to
40:03
switch up the vibes. I went back to my Game of Wine
40:05
shirt. I wore pinstripe home Judge
40:10
jersey game one. Then I went the classic Mitchell
40:14
and Ness Jeter jersey yesterday. Wore it again today.
40:18
It's starting to smell pretty good.
40:20
I don't know what it's like for you, but no undershirt.
40:23
With the mesh jersey it starts to get pretty ripe.
40:26
You're literally sitting there watching a game.
40:28
What what is? What is?
40:30
I it's right after work like I immediately.
40:33
Get home from work. And, like, immediately throw it
40:35
on and like, they haven't showered yet.
40:37
And so, yeah, I have. That's fair.
40:40
OK. Yeah, it's not good, but it is
40:43
good. You know what I'm saying?
40:44
It is good. I I don't know what you're.
40:46
Saying it is good. It is good.
40:48
So what else can we talk about there?
40:52
The How about Chapman's little like stance at ending the.
40:58
The bottom of the eighth. I don't really care if we're
41:00
talking. Yeah, well, if we're going to
41:02
talk stupid, can, can. And I know sour grapes,
41:05
whatever, but legitimately, can we can we talk about the the
41:09
little temper tantrum that Jazz threw after game one at the
41:13
locker? Like, what?
41:14
What? What was that?
41:16
I would love to hear you defend this, by the way.
41:20
I, I don't really know, Jazz is just a weirdo.
41:23
I, I can't really defend him. He has a problem with a lot of
41:27
people. A lot.
41:28
Yeah, he does. He does.
41:30
And I'm glad to see Like I like I texted like I no, no.
41:34
No Game 2 without him. No, that, and that's what I was
41:37
going to say. I'm glad to see that he
41:39
whatever, whatever it was that he was so adamant and finding
41:43
after game one clearly wasn't an issue after Game 2 because he
41:46
was all like forward facing camera.
41:48
He was all smiles. So I'm glad, I'm glad he found
41:52
whatever he he was looking for big.
41:53
Wardrobe too. There's a lot in that locker.
41:56
I've never really seen that many closing.
41:58
I mean, my goodness, like, who are you trying to fool?
42:03
Jazz? Like he's like, oh, this.
42:06
I think I think some of the quotes that came out.
42:09
After a child. Like it it was saved in reality.
42:13
Like it kind of toes the line of like being overly emotional, but
42:18
still being like a team guy and still having team quotes.
42:22
But I don't know, I'll take it. Him scoring from first was
42:27
unbelievable. It's again going back to that
42:29
like that game of inches. I mean that double down the line
42:32
from wells like barely staying fair like the the clank off of
42:37
Jaron Duran where that should have been caught.
42:39
That was strange, that. Was the game.
42:41
That Judge single, like, yeah, it, this this series was just
42:46
this is the way we've played each other all year, it seems.
42:53
And it it just hasn't gone the Yankees way for most of the
42:57
year. Which is why I said before the
42:59
series started, I was not factoring in whatsoever the
43:02
season series because I'm like, I just know the with the way
43:06
baseball works, we've just, we've had your number all year.
43:10
And I knew that there was a risk of this.
43:12
Happening, but I don't think I'm I'm, I didn't mean to like
43:15
credit the nine and what was it, 9 and 4 record to like just
43:20
straight luck and like just straight seeing eye singles.
43:24
Like I, I genuinely think that the Red Sox scout the Yankees
43:27
better than anybody. I'll give Cora his flowers every
43:33
day of the week. Incredible manager and he just,
43:36
he does things that I wish Boone would do and game one felt like
43:42
it was starting to go that way again and I was not in a good
43:45
place but. David Cohen was a little David
43:52
Cohen was being a little franchise shill on the on the
43:55
broadcast, by the way, I don't know if you caught that they
43:57
were talking about that literal thing.
44:00
They're talking about how it was a Ravitch.
44:02
I think Ravitch was like. I don't like Carl Ravitch, by
44:05
the way. I'm out.
44:06
On oh, he was distraught after game one, by the way, like this
44:10
whole this whole anti Yankees bias thing that you talk about
44:13
completely like nowhere to be found this series.
44:20
But he was distraught after game one.
44:22
I was I was worried about his his well-being.
44:24
He he did not seem happy, but he was talking about he said, he
44:31
said, gang, what do you think perception or reality?
44:34
My perception is that that Alex Kora is presented with the data,
44:42
the numbers, but is able to use his gut.
44:46
He's able to pivot, call audibles, make decisions based
44:50
on what he's seen, having to feel.
44:52
And then they said and then Cone and then he he said and then
44:56
Ravitch said. On the flip side, I get the
44:58
sense that Aaron Boone. I think he said that it's like
45:02
the accusations of Aaron Boone have been that he doesn't have
45:05
that kind of freedom. Doesn't have that kind of and
45:07
and Cone stepped in. It was like, well, I don't think
45:10
that that's really fair. And I'm like, that's, that's
45:12
literal reality like that. Literally, we know that.
45:15
That's the system that's in place here.
45:17
Literal reality, especially when you've had the same front office
45:20
and the same manager running it back-to-back, like over and
45:23
over. Whereas like, Cora has stuck
45:26
through some changes in the front office and it's like it's
45:29
clear that the organization has given he's allotted that
45:32
freedom. I didn't realize he's that high
45:36
in franchise wins. By the way, He's just behind
45:40
Francona, isn't he? He's like third.
45:43
People have been trying to run him out of town and people try
45:45
to blame like this series on him, but I'm like, maybe let's
45:49
field, field a baseball one time that.
45:51
Guy would get a job immediately. So I think he's a great manager.
45:54
I, I think, you know, sometimes baseball just doesn't go your
46:01
way, and that's what Game 3 felt like for the Yankees offense.
46:05
But Cam Schlittler, unbelievable.
46:07
That was incredible. One of the best pitching
46:12
performances of watching a postseason overall, much less a
46:18
postseason debut. Dude's a stud, and I told you
46:21
that. I've told you that a few times
46:23
this year, that he's a stud. Told you watch out for him.
46:28
You didn't watch out, You didn't listen.
46:30
I tried. To Yeah, because I was the one
46:32
in the box tonight. Like, I probably would have
46:35
maybe would have had a better chance in the box just on sheer
46:38
luck because clearly whatever was happening tonight in the in
46:41
the box for the Sox was not working.
46:46
Three different pitches that go 99 and they go different
46:49
directions and then a curveball, it's 86.
46:55
Crazy. Were we talking about it before
46:58
we we hit the we sent the pod or was this at the beginning of the
47:03
pod when I was like, every now and then you run into a game
47:07
that you're watching where you feel is that the people that are
47:09
watching the game care more than the people playing the game.
47:12
That's how I felt tonight watching this team.
47:14
I'm like, this is literal do or die.
47:18
If you do not win this game, there are no more games.
47:22
That is the literal definition of a do or die game and just the
47:27
most selfish at bats, The the most senseless hacks like not
47:34
trying to do anything, not trying to go to the way.
47:37
Minus Yoshida. Oh, Yoshida Killer Yoshida can
47:42
play for me anytime, Yankee. Killer dude, he pisses me off so
47:46
much. I'll pencil him him in my lineup
47:50
any day of the week, which is crazy considering like earlier
47:54
this year I wanted to DFA and like guys I was like this guy
47:59
just doesn't fit. But now I'm like you're the only
48:01
guy that clearly cares big Yoshita guy.
48:03
But yeah, it I just like and I get I get Cam was throwing well,
48:08
and honestly, the fact that he I was just so pissed off watching
48:13
him tells me that like, OK, maybe there is a little
48:16
something brewing with the rivalry again, because I don't
48:18
know. I saw him walking off the mound.
48:21
I saw a clip. I don't it wasn't the did you
48:25
know what I'm talking about? Oh yeah.
48:26
Oh, yeah. Is that what it was?
48:28
Oh yeah, that's what it was. OK, yeah, I I saw that.
48:31
And I'm like, maybe, maybe not, but I'm like.
48:34
OK, broadcast wouldn't shut up about him growing up a Red Sox
48:37
fan and then converting his family.
48:39
To Yeah, real quick on that. Can we talk about that?
48:43
How much? How much do you believe that?
48:46
Because I don't for a second. What?
48:49
You don't. I don't care if it's family or
48:51
not. You don't convert a group of
48:53
people from being Red Sox fan to Yankees fans.
48:57
Come on, it's your son. You don't.
48:58
If it's your son, you. No, you just.
49:01
You don't. You can if you have a boy and
49:06
you raise him up, this might be an interesting thing to think
49:12
about. You have a long time to think
49:13
about it, so that's good. The raising of a son.
49:19
You can go for his success. You're coaching him through
49:22
youth baseball. You can hope for his success.
49:25
Every weekend he he goes through college ball kid looks like he's
49:31
going to be getting paid millions.
49:34
You're waiting for that call up. You're waiting for that call up
49:38
and then finally you get to go to a big league game and he's
49:42
wearing the most hated uniform in your mind.
49:46
You can hope for his success. You're telling me that you're
49:50
replaying? You're telling me.
49:53
You're telling me that you're replacing your entire wardrobe,
49:58
everything you've ever experienced as a fan to that
50:01
point. You're just throwing it all out
50:05
the window instead of and maintaining your your fandom,
50:09
but just pulling for his success.
50:11
I think it's official now. I think it's officially been the
50:15
law has been laid down. I guess, But anyway, my, my
50:19
point is, you know, the feelings that I were that I was feeling
50:24
tonight, I was like, you know, this sucks, but at the same
50:27
time, it's no like real talk for a second.
50:32
And you know, we we rib on certain fan bases from time to
50:35
time. But like, it is a blessing to be
50:40
a fan of a team that's playing in the post season that allows
50:45
you to feel and experience the ups and downs.
50:48
Absolute devastation, absolute jubilation.
50:52
I'll take last year's World Series loss over being a Twins
50:55
fan any day of the week, bro. A Pirates fan, A Mets fan.
51:01
Oh, ricochets, I love it. That's what that's what I'm
51:05
talking. Like I'm, I'm being for real
51:07
though, like it like I hate the way that I'm feeling right now,
51:11
but like it does. I hate what I'm feeling right
51:16
now, but it feels good to feel something, you know?
51:21
It feels good to feel something, and not everybody has that has
51:24
that same luck. Are you a quick, quick last
51:28
question then we can move on. I know how I was last year when
51:34
they lost. Do you have like a certain?
51:39
Like angry, I want to take. No certain range of dates that
51:43
like a a certain period of like I'm not going to wear any Red
51:47
Sox stuff for a few weeks, few days.
51:49
Like how does that work for you are?
51:50
You, I mean, I'm wearing my Pablo Sanchez football shirt
51:53
right now. I switched out of my.
51:54
On the football season. I haven't moved on to football
51:57
season, but I just needed to get out of whatever I was wearing
52:00
but. That's what I'm saying, Like, do
52:02
you? Because like, look, let's Fast
52:04
forward two weeks. You're no longer super emotional
52:08
about the loss. You've accepted it, but you're
52:13
getting ready for the day and you're looking in your closet
52:15
and you're seeing a bunch of stuff and you're like, I'm not
52:17
going to put that on. How long does that last for you?
52:20
Well, that's tough because when we went out to Boston, I snagged
52:24
a couple of the Fenway Green City Connect items.
52:28
Like I got this dope crew neck, like the Monster Green that says
52:34
Red Sox across the front. I got the A-40. 7 brand still
52:38
got the tag on it. No, I've been wearing it this
52:41
week. Gotcha.
52:43
But it's super comfy, just looks right.
52:46
I got I got the 47 brand lid, the the with the, you know, the
52:52
snapback closure in the back. Just just clean hat.
52:57
So I'm I mean, I'll give it a few days going out of town this
53:01
weekend, So like I'll be able to let things breathe a little bit
53:05
and get some clarity, but when I come back, I'll re evaluate.
53:09
It's hard to it's hard to say legitimately like I know I was.
53:13
I know I was frigging prodnia in the side there earlier when I
53:18
was like, this is new territory for me, but like I legit like
53:21
2003 was the what right? Was this the?
53:25
Was this the Was this the last time that the Yankees eliminated
53:28
the Red Sox from the postseason? I mean like, like when I was
53:31
going to postseason games, you know, in 17/18/19, it felt like
53:37
we were always losing either you guys or the Astros.
53:40
So that checks out. Am I missing a year in there?
53:44
I don't feel like I am. Maybe.
53:47
Maybe it's a little later. I think it's O3 because I don't
53:50
think you guys were in the preseason in O9.
53:59
Let me conceive it's it's got to be.
54:01
I don't think we faced you. You might have been in, but I
54:03
don't know if we faced you, but I think O3 is correct.
54:11
Anyway, it's a new era. Do you, is you?
54:18
Is your like lock screen or home screen set to like a picture
54:22
with Fenway in the background or you're going to have to adjust
54:24
that? Why you?
54:28
Why you asking this I'm. Just I'm just seeing what kind
54:32
of Yeah, I'm just curious on. I mean, that's it's.
54:34
It's a nice picture. That's a great picture.
54:37
Yeah, unfortunately, I mean, you're going to have to, you're
54:40
going to have to look at that and.
54:42
Nah. Just curious man.
54:46
Just what if I what it tell me, what if I what for your mental
54:51
health? What if I did this?
54:53
Hold on, does this count? No, it doesn't want to work for
55:01
me. Ah, here we go.
55:02
What What if I? What if I just did that?
55:10
Does that work? That's not a bad idea.
55:13
That could be Camden. That could be Utah St.
55:15
Yeah, that could be Utah St. for all we know.
55:19
Anyway, yeah, you know, I, I was pretty emotionally detached
55:25
after the 8th. After I, I mean, I'm seeing
55:28
McMahon. Unbelievable play.
55:30
Flipping into the dugout, I'm like, OK, let's start the pod.
55:34
I've I've seen what I needed to see.
55:36
I can't. Knowing my bullpen and what I've
55:38
seen this year, I couldn't. It did feel mildly intentional
55:42
that I didn't hear from you until the game was over.
55:44
I'm like, I know he's seen my text.
55:47
Does he just? Want.
55:49
Yeah, he. He just wants to.
55:50
He wants me to sit with this. No, it wasn't your bullpen.
55:54
No, it was 100. I don't believe you.
55:57
I think that, well, that was in the, that was in the 7th when
56:01
you texted me. There is no reason to believe
56:05
that we were doing anything. If Cam was coming back out,
56:08
we've. Talked too long about this.
56:10
I don't want to talk about it, Mayor.
56:11
But I mean, I I like that NAR, now you know who our closer is
56:14
by the way, you have you've been wondering.
56:16
I, I don't think I saw any of the ninth.
56:21
I was like I said, what a. Hold in there.
56:27
No, it was actually funny. I'll tell you super quick and
56:31
then we'll move on. Rafaela was up in the 9th at
56:35
Meredith. God love her.
56:37
She was, she was trying to stuck it out for you.
56:39
She, she was trying to encourage me the whole time I said no.
56:42
I've I've seen this, I've seen this song and dance too many
56:45
times to this team. Put up with so much.
56:48
So much I felt bad. I was like, I am kind of being a
56:50
jerk right now, but like. This jerk when they lose.
56:53
Dude, this is this is not good. But anyway, she goes, she goes.
56:58
I believe I, I, I feel something good happening right here and I
57:02
and Raphael was up and he's been just poop the last couple nights
57:07
and I was like, Nope, it's a strike out.
57:09
I've, I've seen this too many times.
57:12
I went up to change my shirt. I came back down and I hear and
57:16
I'm like, OK, then that's that's, that's what I was saying
57:22
right before I went upstairs. Over in this series, I believe.
57:26
Yeah, sorry, did I say past couple nights, past few nights?
57:31
Over 10 / 11, something like that.
57:35
Hate to see it. You just hate to see it.
57:37
Although game two, my heart hit the floor when he hit that ball
57:42
of the track. I thought it was 10 rows deep.
57:46
Yeah, in the in the ninth in game two, I was like, I'm I'm
57:48
going to break my TV. But it was that split second of
57:51
being like, here we go again. Hence hence my hesitations with
57:56
our bullpen. Anyway, all done.
57:58
Let's talk Dodgers, huh? Let's let's talk to them,
58:02
Dodgers. I put it on the story.
58:04
I said the prophecy has been fulfilled.
58:07
The prophecy has been fulfilled. Reds, I love you so much like I
58:12
I no, for real. I need, I need anybody
58:17
affiliated with the Reds organization to understand right
58:21
now that you may have lost this series, but you won our hearts.
58:30
You did exactly what we asked you to do.
58:33
We asked you to take the last playoff spot from the Mets.
58:39
You did that. We said we don't even care if
58:43
you get swept out of the wild card series.
58:45
You did that unbelievably. That's all we ask for you.
58:50
And honestly, like you put up a a decent fight.
58:55
Granted, the Dodgers doubled up your score in both games, but
58:59
not important. The fact that you just fell on
59:03
your sword that way was such a beautiful, like, very honorable
59:08
thing to do. Like if this was Japanese
59:10
culture, you would be heralded as you're heroes to us, but like
59:16
you would be heroes overseas. There's AI always.
59:20
I don't know if you noticed this thing or like, pay attention to
59:24
the way managers are in the dugout where they are, right.
59:32
Like Dave Roberts has that like, weird little like, seat thing on
59:37
his bench. He just kind of sits there.
59:39
His arms are always folded. Yeah.
59:40
Think back to when we were kids, Bobby Cox, Joe Torre on the
59:43
bench, like kind of at the back. You know, Aaron Boone kind of
59:50
leans up on the step and like, kind of leans on the railing.
59:53
But you kind of I, I pay attention to that kind of thing
59:57
when it showed Tito. And he's just on the front
1:00:01
railing, just sprawled out, just picking seeds, throwing them.
1:00:06
That man watched our podcast and understood the assignment.
1:00:11
He knew his season was done. I've never seen a cooler
1:00:16
cucumber than Tito Francona down in Game 2 on the brink of
1:00:21
elimination. I had the exact same thought.
1:00:26
I had the same exact thought. Because I'm like, Tito, this
1:00:28
would be a great time to go and get your boy.
1:00:30
And he's like, I don't know what you want me to do.
1:00:32
I'm doing exactly what was asked.
1:00:34
My hands are tied. I don't know.
1:00:36
What you want from me? No, but you know, bit aside like
1:00:41
I I'm I'm with you, I'm like you noticed that right, This guy is
1:00:44
like oddly calm for you know, given the situation, but I.
1:00:48
Just know, like, you know, you see, like certain managers like
1:00:51
chew the gum real real quick. They're like spitting seeds out.
1:00:54
Like, frantically certain aggression to it, yeah.
1:00:57
There's like, yeah, there's like, conversations with their
1:00:59
bench coach and, like, a lot of nodding and they're into it and,
1:01:01
like, clap. No, dude.
1:01:03
Tito could not be more checked out.
1:01:05
What was he having, pistachios? I don't even think they were
1:01:07
regular sunflower seeds. I think he was having something
1:01:09
unique. Side note I I think I I had
1:01:14
heard I I think he's been off a chew for a while if I'm not
1:01:18
mistaken. But I they said something on the
1:01:21
broadcast where he swapped it. He swapped in gum in place of it
1:01:25
and said that he goes through some ungodly I don't even
1:01:29
remember the number but they says goes through some insane
1:01:33
amount of gum in a single game. I think they said he'll go
1:01:36
through like two buckets of it in a game is just going to town
1:01:42
on it as a way to, you know, stay off chew or whatever.
1:01:45
But I'm like. Man, maybe that, maybe it's just
1:01:48
was gum that he was going through, but I just saw him like
1:01:50
he's resting on his railing. I think it's what it was.
1:01:52
He just. Launched something, put
1:01:54
something else back in. He'd be like a little cup next
1:01:56
to him, just a just a job, well done, just a job.
1:02:01
Well done. He does what all of us wish we
1:02:04
could do with that gum that only lasts like 5 seconds.
1:02:07
Just get rid of it. We don't have Tito Francona
1:02:10
money, so we kind of got to like, you know, endless supply.
1:02:14
We kind of got to milk it a little bit even when it's lost
1:02:16
its flavor. But he's like I, I manage a
1:02:19
Major League Baseball team. I can have the five seconds,
1:02:22
discard it and move on to the next one.
1:02:24
Get rid of it right away and I can throw it anywhere I want.
1:02:27
It's going to be it's going to be vacuumed up at the end of the
1:02:30
game. It's living the dream, honestly.
1:02:32
Yeah, but honestly, great, great on the Reds for for doing what
1:02:35
they did. And thank you for your service.
1:02:37
I guess we'll we'll tip our cap to the Dodgers.
1:02:41
This was. Obviously has been filled.
1:02:42
It was the greatest story you've put out on the.
1:02:46
Page The most predictable that I don't know, like, can I say the
1:02:55
most predictable series of this whole slate?
1:02:59
Like, in fact, was this the only one?
1:03:01
Was this the only one I got right?
1:03:04
And I don't even really count this.
1:03:07
Yep. Sure enough, I went Guards, Red
1:03:09
Sox, Padres, Dodgers, and I don't even really count this
1:03:14
one, so chalk it up. Oh, for four.
1:03:16
I mean, this was too easy of a pick for me to even take credit
1:03:18
for this so. I went 2 for four.
1:03:20
Another banger of a of a slate for Old KC.
1:03:25
Yeah, you were hot last year, though.
1:03:27
Last year was nuts. No, I think it was 2 years.
1:03:30
I think it was two years ago. Yeah, it was.
1:03:34
Yeah. 2023 is when I was on a heater.
1:03:37
Weird. Yeah, real weird.
1:03:40
I was having a a whole lot of fun in the comments for that
1:03:42
one, but yeah, yeah, 2024 not so great.
1:03:45
This year, not so great. Yeah, Dodgers look good.
1:03:50
I guess so. I mean, look, you've got, you've
1:03:58
got. Why is Murray texting us like
1:04:00
sweating and screaming at his TV?
1:04:02
Like was there genuinely? If there's Dodgers fans
1:04:06
listening, was there genuinely a moment at all during this series
1:04:12
where you were actually nervous? When hunter green, when hunter
1:04:17
green, their only hope is giving up moon shots.
1:04:21
There is. You're set.
1:04:23
Nothing you need to worry about as a Dodgers fan from that point
1:04:28
forward. Of the series, I was the most
1:04:31
checked out on this one. Yeah, and it wasn't because I
1:04:41
just, I, I wasn't interested in like the names that were.
1:04:45
I mean, obviously I mean a lot of star power there, more so for
1:04:48
LA, but you know, there's like some names that intrigue me.
1:04:51
I, I was really looking forward to watching Hunter Green start,
1:04:54
you know, being a, an LA kid or California kid.
1:04:57
Is he, I don't know. Is it LA, California?
1:05:00
I know I can't remember if he's LA or not, but I was looking
1:05:02
forward to that. But I mean, the second he starts
1:05:06
getting shelled, I'm like, like, what hope is there legitimately
1:05:10
if like this was the game, this was the game you had to win.
1:05:14
And like, I know he's going up against Blake Snell, but I'm
1:05:16
like, Yamamoto's going Game 2. Dude's been nails.
1:05:22
You don't stand a chance game two.
1:05:23
You have to win game one. And when when they were just,
1:05:27
they were treated like it was a Little League game.
1:05:29
I'm like, this is silly. Roberts took out Emmett Sheehan
1:05:34
in a 12 count. What are we doing?
1:05:40
Like, just he almost hit him with a slider and Dave's like,
1:05:43
Nope, that's it, we're done here.
1:05:46
There's just, I don't know, weird managing decisions, but
1:05:51
Dodgers do what Dodgers do. All right, let's.
1:05:58
I mean, we still got. Slight.
1:05:59
Preview We still got to make our picks, but just general thoughts
1:06:04
on the bracket. Right now, we, we are poised for
1:06:08
a Tigers, Mariners, ALDSA, Yankees, Blue Jays, ALDSA
1:06:14
Dodgers, Phillies, NLDS, and a Cubs, Brewers, NLDS.
1:06:24
Honestly, I think all of these are, are great matchups.
1:06:26
You know, I know. We, we, we sort of.
1:06:28
Really, really looking forward to the Phillies Brewers matchup.
1:06:32
Phillies. Dodgers.
1:06:33
Phillies, Dodgers. Sorry we.
1:06:36
You know, we ragged on the on the Tigers and for good reason,
1:06:40
but I still think they complement the Mariners well as
1:06:48
it relates to like an entertainment standpoint, you
1:06:51
know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:06:52
I just think it's going to be like I, I don't think the Tigers
1:06:55
are going to continue on, but I still think it's going to be a
1:06:58
better series because it's the Mariners.
1:07:02
Like I think I think they're just going to bring up the the
1:07:05
entertainment value of that matchup.
1:07:08
So Tigers benefit a little bit there from a a fan viewing point
1:07:12
of view, but you know, Yankees, Blue Jays is going to be great
1:07:17
as it as it always is. Dodgers.
1:07:19
Phillies. Love that.
1:07:22
Love that. I love that.
1:07:24
And then one of those teams. We're getting rid of 1, not
1:07:27
getting rid of. I think one of the I like that
1:07:29
this is matching up this way versus like an NLCS matchup, you
1:07:35
know? You mean Dodgers?
1:07:40
Phillies See, I would have loved for this to go 7 like it.
1:07:46
I mean, those are those are some powerhouse teams and you know,
1:07:50
I, I want every chance to see both of those teams in a fair
1:07:58
match up go as deep as they can. It's a fair take, It's a fair
1:08:02
take. And I'll be honest to the at
1:08:05
least. Attracted to the Brewers?
1:08:07
Cubs. I'm not sure but I think.
1:08:09
Yeah, and having having them on both sides or having both of
1:08:14
them on the other side of the bracket for the National League.
1:08:17
I'm not. I mean, what's the match up
1:08:21
there that excites you for an NLCS?
1:08:23
Like I know it's kind of a late, like a lazy take because we're
1:08:30
talking about we're talking about the Dodgers and Phillies,
1:08:33
but I just feel like that's a better, I just feel like there'd
1:08:37
be a better NLCS matchup. But I get it.
1:08:39
Like get the get the old school Brewers in there, get a get a
1:08:43
Cubs team that maybe gets hot. I, I, I think that when you look
1:08:48
at matchups, I mean, I guess the Mariners kind of checked that
1:08:52
box. But like, I, I kind of always
1:08:56
like that one team that just nobody at the beginning of the
1:09:01
year ever thought they'd be in a, you know, trying to win the
1:09:04
Pennant. And that's the Brewers.
1:09:06
Like no one, no one was in on the Brew Crew at the beginning
1:09:10
of the year. No one sat there and said we're
1:09:13
going to see the Brewers try to hunt down a, a trophy like the
1:09:17
nobody. So I think that I like having
1:09:19
one of those teams. The Mariners have been on the
1:09:22
brink for a few years and, you know, trying to like get into
1:09:26
the post season and knocking over the hump, blah, blah, blah.
1:09:29
Like, I don't know, like no one's really had that about the
1:09:32
Mariners or the Brewers and the fact that like they're in the
1:09:34
number one seed. It's like we're getting a buy.
1:09:37
At least it feels it feels like it's like good traditional, like
1:09:43
surprise baseball. And I think that like the good
1:09:47
old baseball fan that's watching right now, that has been
1:09:51
watching the whole year, and maybe they're going to get to
1:09:55
see a Brew Crew team that's like on the national stage and be
1:09:58
like, wow, this is enjoyable baseball to watch.
1:10:03
Because I think that's what the Brewers are.
1:10:05
They're good baseball. Whereas the other teams you're
1:10:10
just like, we know this, strike out home run, we know this.
1:10:15
That's my take. So I'm going Brewers over the
1:10:20
Cubs, obviously. Predictions.
1:10:21
Yeah, I'm taking I've got the Brewers and Phillies.
1:10:27
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't move the needle for me all the way,
1:10:33
but I I could definitely be down for AI.
1:10:36
Think that's just good hard baseball, Phillies, Brewers and
1:10:42
an NLCS. So give me Phillies Brewers
1:10:46
coming out of the National League.
1:10:53
I mean I hate I don't is it? Is it lazy to take the top 2
1:11:02
seeds out of both sides of the bracket like?
1:11:05
No, that happened last year. Did it?
1:11:07
Yeah. Yankees, Dodgers were #1 Seeds,
1:11:09
No. No, no, no.
1:11:11
I'm saying for the for the CS, for the LCS.
1:11:19
Sorry, I I should have clarified.
1:11:21
Not top 2 like for both sides though.
1:11:23
Like if I went Brewers, Phillies and Jay's Mariners.
1:11:28
That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah.
1:11:30
Like 1-1 and two and one and two.
1:11:32
Not no, I don't think that's no, I don't consider that lazy.
1:11:38
I'm just excited to see what a a post season Rogers Center can
1:11:42
bring us yet again. We've seen we've seen the
1:11:46
footage. We know what it's capable, what
1:11:49
that's capable of providing us. And I I think I think the Jays
1:11:55
are a team that can benefit from from this rest.
1:11:57
Like we talked about, they went all in throwing Gosman, that
1:12:00
last 162 going for the vision and it paid off.
1:12:04
So I think having this this week of rest will benefit them.
1:12:09
And I think the Mariners are just, I'm not going to label
1:12:13
them the whole team of destiny thing right now because I don't
1:12:16
like just throwing that out Willy nilly.
1:12:18
But they seem to be a team on a mission.
1:12:22
So I'm call it lazy, call it shock, but I'm going Jays,
1:12:28
Mariners out of the American League side.
1:12:36
Yeah, I got all the same except the Yanks.
1:12:47
All the same. I got the Yanks taking the Jays.
1:12:49
Well, I have a bracket. I deviated from my bracket.
1:12:53
I'm looking at my bracket right now, and that's for money.
1:12:57
I hedge. Sometimes you got a hedge.
1:12:59
That's so stupid. So I'm I'm hedging the fact that
1:13:04
if the Yankees lose, at least I get to win money.
1:13:06
But this bracket that I'm looking at right now has the
1:13:09
same bracket you just read out. Yep, yeah.
1:13:16
Anything can happen, man. We'll see.
1:13:18
I mean, who knows? Like I said, I I just need to, I
1:13:21
lit my $20 on fire because I'm like, yeah, I never win this
1:13:25
crap. Yeah, Yep.
1:13:29
Yep, Yep, Yep, Yep. I think it comes down to the
1:13:36
Phillies offensively need to be able to hang with the Dodgers.
1:13:39
They need to be able to hang. I think they're they're
1:13:42
pitching. When's the when's the cake
1:13:44
there? But like they got to be able to
1:13:46
score runs this at the same pace.
1:13:49
I, I don't know. I mean, they've got great
1:13:53
pitching. We know this, but like I
1:13:54
wouldn't be so quick to write off.
1:13:56
I mean the the Dodgers starting pitching has been very good.
1:13:59
I agree. I agree like very good.
1:14:03
I think the, I just think, I think the Phillies have, I don't
1:14:10
know at this point. All the rotations are good.
1:14:11
So whatever the Mariners are, we already talked about their
1:14:19
rotation. I think complete opposite of the
1:14:22
Tigers there's. What's the latest on Wu?
1:14:24
Do we have any updates on that? I don't know, I haven't looked
1:14:26
into that, but I'm thinking that like if you go, I wonder if they
1:14:34
push him to like game two or three to give like even extra
1:14:37
time, maybe even 3 because if you go 2 at home you have a
1:14:43
travel day after that. At that point that would be near
1:14:51
2 weeks for him. George Kirby, Logan Gilbert of
1:14:57
the favors to start game one and game two in the LDS.
1:14:59
The hope is Brian Wu can pitch later in the series.
1:15:02
Yeah, so travel day, game three, I think that's enough time.
1:15:06
He faced live hitters today. Yeah, side note, did you see the
1:15:12
the Phillies inner squad at 30 / 30,000?
1:15:16
People, that's what I was going to bring up.
1:15:18
Like how does that makes other fan bases feel like the Phillies
1:15:22
are rolling out inner squads and putting more butts in seats than
1:15:30
your regular season, like weekend matchups?
1:15:33
Yeah, that's. A good point.
1:15:36
What are we talking about? They're literally playing
1:15:40
themselves. Yeah.
1:15:42
Do we have schedules yet? Do we know?
1:15:44
And drawing more, I mean they got to be final now.
1:15:50
2O8408638838. Eastern I.
1:15:57
Hate the fact that the Yankees. On Saturday. 1:00 sucks.
1:16:04
But it's Saturday. I know, but we're we're going up
1:16:07
to a cabin. It's supposed to be like a like
1:16:12
a relaxing, Hey, let's get out of the let's get out of the
1:16:16
craziness for a weekend. Hey man, however you want to
1:16:19
celebrate this Yankees wild card win is that's that's on you.
1:16:27
You don't need to. You don't need to divulge
1:16:29
details like you go celebrate. This was This has been planned
1:16:32
for two months and. Go celebrate.
1:16:34
Well, that seems cocky. Go celebrate however you want.
1:16:38
What? Go celebrate however this this
1:16:43
series win. I know, I know, that's what I'm
1:16:47
saying. It seems cocky to plan this
1:16:49
celebratory wild card getaway. Yeah, when you didn't even
1:16:53
things were going to shake out. That's bold.
1:16:56
But you know, props to you, I guess.
1:16:57
But yeah, you don't need to divulge details.
1:17:00
Just go, go, have a good time. I think because of the East
1:17:06
Coast, West Coast situation, any, any Mariner home games,
1:17:14
that's going to be our night game the whole series, right?
1:17:21
It's that way on Sunday. But by the way, it does that
1:17:23
weird thing for any NL fans out there.
1:17:26
Saturday is all four games. Sunday's just AL, Monday's just
1:17:33
NL. Which I like that.
1:17:36
I do like that I don't like. Baseball every day.
1:17:39
Yeah, well, I mean the game one I get, but like, I like, I like
1:17:42
having baseball every day. I agree.
1:17:45
And then he was all right. Good stuff.
1:17:47
Well, nice. I can emotionally detach from
1:17:54
the remainder from from here on out.
1:17:56
So you might be getting a, it might be getting a another
1:17:59
version of me moving forward. We'll see.
1:18:04
I'm just going to be my. No, you're not going to be
1:18:09
yours. No, you're not going to be.
1:18:12
No, you were. You were over the moon tonight.
1:18:14
You were giddy if. You go back, but I was like.
1:18:17
There was moments in this recording where if you go back
1:18:21
and look, it was probably closer to the beginning.
1:18:23
I was, I had this, like grid on my face while you were talking
1:18:27
because you you're so much more like demonstrative.
1:18:30
You're like, yeah, yeah. You know what I actually think?
1:18:32
Yeah, You know, I I agree. Like, I'm like, we're not
1:18:35
getting this. We're not getting this years
1:18:37
ago. Strictly, strictly because of
1:18:41
us. Beating the Red Sox sucks.
1:18:42
That feels great. I've mentally moved on.
1:18:46
I've moved on. Oh, I bet on to the next.
1:18:49
Let's keep it moving. All right, Kobe, let's.
1:18:52
Yeah, job's not finished. Whatever.
1:18:55
Well, it will be in. Job's not.
1:18:57
Done. It will be in Toronto.
1:19:01
We'll see ya. That will be a great series.
1:19:06
It depends what side we're talking here, but yeah, any
1:19:08
who's that's all I got happy. Birthday to the kid.
1:19:11
Hey thanks. Well, it's not my birthday
1:19:13
anymore because it is almost 1230.
1:19:16
Yeah, I've been up since got to go.
1:19:19
Yeah, look, sort of closing the book, not really a lot of
1:19:23
manager stuff has happened in the last few days since the
1:19:26
regular season. That's.
1:19:27
Offseason conversation. Sorry.
1:19:28
We will. We will revisit that at a later
1:19:31
date, but until then, that's all I got.
1:19:38
I'll go chasing curveballs, guys, whatever.
1:19:41
Yeah, we love you all. And you know, as always, we're
1:19:44
we're looking forward. We're looking forward to talking
1:19:46
more baseball with you guys soon.
1:19:50
Until next time, stay. Stay filthy.
1:19:56
We'll see ya.