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Ohio State Football Camp Insider: 5 Things To Watch On Offense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buck Guys tomorrow morning for Wednesday, July thirtieth.
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  Speaker 1: from the start of Ohio State's fall Camp, actually well
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  Speaker 1: one day, you know the bit here with tomorrow morning,
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  Speaker 1: one day away. Starts Thursday, Buck Guys will open Fall Camp.
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  Speaker 2: A bunch of Ohio State fans.
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  Speaker 1: Practices one, two, and three are open Thursday, Friday, Saturday
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  Speaker 1: this week. So today we're gonna be talking about some
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  Speaker 1: of these things we are most interested to see this week,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's this week maybe even through the balance of
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  Speaker 1: fall camp, sort of the storylines that were maybe most
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  Speaker 1: interested in looking at on the offensive side of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Going to be breaking that down with our buddy Tony
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  Speaker 1: Gerderman Ifucky Huddle dot Com. Tony, We're gonna do this
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  Speaker 1: in sort of a draft order, so we will just
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  Speaker 1: sort of go back and forth picking the storylines or
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  Speaker 1: the positional battles, whatever it is that we're most interested
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  Speaker 1: in for fall camp. And I will say, you go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: your honor, your honor.
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  Speaker 3: Well, one of the things that I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 3: is the stuff that we haven't seen yet or stuff
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  Speaker 3: that we're still waiting to see. Like every day or
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  Speaker 3: every time we break camp or we start camp and
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  Speaker 3: it's like the first day of spring, what are you
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  Speaker 3: first looking for? Or fall camp? What are you first
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  Speaker 3: looking for? I think one of the things I'm looking
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  Speaker 3: forward to in that first weekend is just our first
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  Speaker 3: look at Turbo Rogers and Isaiah West at running back
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  Speaker 3: to see what they look like. And again it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to judge running backs during camp, but we watched Bo
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  Speaker 3: Jackson and we were impressed, and that was during the
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  Speaker 3: spring camp. So I'm just looking forward to seeing some
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  Speaker 3: guys that we haven't seen yet and seeing how those
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  Speaker 3: two do and you know, are they getting you know,
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  Speaker 3: the you know, ten percent of the reps at the
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  Speaker 3: end know what's going on there. So that's one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that's just seeing seeing the guys that we
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  Speaker 3: haven't seen yet and having a baseline for those guys.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well I will scoop in and take Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Durant at number two. You know, hey, Tony, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of interest in the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: battle as well. I like your sort of avant garde
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  Speaker 1: approach to this. I'm going to be super basic and say,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about the quarterbacks and who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the starting quarterback for Ohio State. While the guys who
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  Speaker 1: are new this fall obviously are very interesting, sort of
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  Speaker 1: your first look at these guys and the first look
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  Speaker 1: at these guys' pads especially and practicing the quarterback battle,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be to me that this is the
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  Speaker 1: storyline of the year. And you know, if you're looking
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  Speaker 1: at just this week, I am not expecting to have
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  Speaker 1: an answer on the quarterback battle this week. That's usually
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  Speaker 1: something that happens. You get through maybe the first two
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  Speaker 1: scrimmages and then we find out. When we talked to
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Day on like Monday, August eighteenth, that's sort of
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  Speaker 1: if you're looking at an over under an when I'm
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  Speaker 1: expecting to see an answer there.
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  Speaker 2: That's probably about right.
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  Speaker 1: However, I do you know that to me that that's
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  Speaker 1: still so clearly the defining story of Fall Camp when
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  Speaker 1: you're looking back at this a year from now, six
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  Speaker 1: months from now, five years from now, whatever. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you look back at Fall Camp twenty twenty three, and
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  Speaker 1: the story was who's the starting quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Tole McCord or Devin Brown.
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  Speaker 1: When you look back at Fall Camp twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be who's the starting quarterback?
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  Speaker 2: Is it Lincoln Keyholes or Juli Insane?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go ahead and call me Joe Jumars
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  Speaker 3: And I like the upside of dark out Milchi frankly, but.
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  Speaker 2: He looked great against that chair in the workout video.
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  Speaker 3: See you know what I'm talking about. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean to see where they are. You know, have they
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  Speaker 3: continued to progress? And of course they have? How much so?
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  Speaker 3: And you know, as somebody standing out ahead of the other,
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  Speaker 3: that's where we you know, we'll see three days and
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  Speaker 3: each day it's going to be like maybe maybe one
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  Speaker 3: guy is or the other, but what if the same
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  Speaker 3: guys better in our opinion, in the collective opinion those
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  Speaker 3: three days, Well, then clearly he's the starting quarterback, except
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  Speaker 3: pads aren't on yet, there's no pass rush really, so
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  Speaker 3: there's still a lot of things to figure out there.
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  Speaker 3: How about this one, Tom, I want to see what
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  Speaker 3: that first team offensive line looks like. And we had
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  Speaker 3: somebody on our message board saying, hey, you know, watch
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  Speaker 3: out for Austin's Seerveld at left tackle instead of right tackle.
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  Speaker 3: So now I'm like, now I'm curious because when people
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  Speaker 3: pop in with some info, it's like, well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see what it looks like. But then
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  Speaker 3: also remember ethan Onionwo started out springball at right tackle
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  Speaker 3: and Austin Seerveld started out at left tackle and springball,
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  Speaker 3: but they eventually flip. So is what we see in
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  Speaker 3: the first weekend going to be what we see in
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  Speaker 3: the lead up towards Texas? I don't know, but I
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  Speaker 3: think we have a pretty good feel for those what
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  Speaker 3: those who those five players are that are with the ones.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to see what kind of consistency there
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  Speaker 3: is with the who's at left tackle, who's at right tackle,
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  Speaker 3: and whether there's any kind of flipping or you know,
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  Speaker 3: switching around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the next thing that I had
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  Speaker 1: listed as well. The offensive line, and like you said,
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  Speaker 1: I think we know who the five guys are going
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  Speaker 1: to be very likely, but how do you how do you.
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  Speaker 2: Move them around? You could could? You could, you could
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  Speaker 2: aligned them.
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  Speaker 1: You got guys with some flexibility, and we saw even
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  Speaker 1: within the season last year you had guards moving to
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  Speaker 1: tackle and you had I mean, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: many different combinations of offensive line they had last year,
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  Speaker 1: but it had to be at least four or five
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  Speaker 1: at least when you had the Zen Mahalsky line and
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  Speaker 1: this R.
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  Speaker 2: Simmons line, and then you had you know, Josh, you had.
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  Speaker 1: Different combinations of guards in there during the College Football
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  Speaker 1: Playoff with Donovan Jackson left tackle. So and we have
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  Speaker 1: seen a lot of shuffling at the offensive line position
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  Speaker 1: in previous camps as well. You had the four tackle
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  Speaker 1: offensive line in what twenty twenty one?
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  Speaker 2: That was?
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  Speaker 1: That was some drama we had, you know, and you've
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  Speaker 1: had years as well where you've had, you know, positional
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  Speaker 1: battles at guard and.
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  Speaker 2: Who's going to go where?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I am I'm intrigued enough by the rumors
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  Speaker 1: of potentially flipping the tackles that I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to be I'm ready to be intrigued
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  Speaker 1: by what we see on Thursday morning. And then, as
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  Speaker 1: we always say, you watch the first practice of whether
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  Speaker 1: it's the Spring or the fall, and you go, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: how much do we really learn? I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: much we really learn, but what we see now, three
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  Speaker 1: days from now, two weeks from now, whatever it is,
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  Speaker 1: it's a useful comparison point. It's not what you see
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  Speaker 1: on day one of fall camp is going to be
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  Speaker 1: exactly what it is as they finish fall camp. We've
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  Speaker 1: seen lots of drama in the offensive line room with
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  Speaker 1: the virus that went through last year and shuffle guys
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  Speaker 1: all around. So you know, this is not the final
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  Speaker 1: answer on practice one, but it's certainly a very very
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  Speaker 1: useful data point just to sort of get a sense
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  Speaker 1: for where their heads are, because they're not you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're not putting stuff out there on practice one just
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  Speaker 1: to mess with people or just to throw you know,
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  Speaker 1: throw missive information out like this is where they this
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  Speaker 1: is what they're really thinking, this is what they're really
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  Speaker 1: looking at right now, and then we'll see whether that changes.
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  Speaker 1: Is it your turn now? Well, uh, yes, I suppose
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  Speaker 1: it is. So I have two here, and I have
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  Speaker 1: one of them is running backs, and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: maybe we we talked about the other half of the
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  Speaker 1: running back So I guess let's talk about this. You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned running backs four and running backs five probably entering
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  Speaker 1: the fall, guys who didn't get really to participate in
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  Speaker 1: the spring, Turbert Rogers because he wasn't here and Isa
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  Speaker 1: West because he.
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  Speaker 2: Was banged up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested in what kind of separation is there between
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  Speaker 1: running back one, who is presumably James People's, running back two,
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  Speaker 1: who is presumably CJ. Donaldson, and running back three, who
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  Speaker 1: is presumably Bo Jackson. Ryan Day has talked about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they were impressed with Bo Jackson, but he's
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  Speaker 1: probably not going to be right. They're ready to start
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  Speaker 1: right at the first, you know, the first game of
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  Speaker 1: the season, ready to be in a you know, significant
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  Speaker 1: role that first game of the season. I want to know,
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  Speaker 1: is there a bigger gap between running back one and
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  Speaker 1: running back two, or running back two and running back three,
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  Speaker 1: and how is that going to change over the course
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  Speaker 1: of the fall. Because I feel pretty confident that James
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  Speaker 1: People is going to be running back one, and even
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  Speaker 1: though he has CJ. Donaldson has more collegiate experience.
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  Speaker 2: CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Donaldson figures to be running back two and figures to
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  Speaker 1: be a nice compliment to James People's And then how
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  Speaker 1: far behind is Bo Jackson?
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  Speaker 2: Is he kind of nipping at CJ.
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  Speaker 1: Donaldson's heels coming out of the fall or a fall
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  Speaker 1: camp and entering the season or is there still a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of separation there because it feels like you're
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  Speaker 1: probably going to go in with the same order that
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  Speaker 1: you come out with. But if it's number two is
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  Speaker 1: closing on number one, or number one is pulling away
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  Speaker 1: from number two, or number three is closing with number
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  Speaker 1: two or what, you know, that change is going to
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  Speaker 1: be really instructive in terms of, hey, what might this
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  Speaker 1: look like in a month or two. You can kind
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  Speaker 1: of probably project some of that growth out moving forward
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 3: And let's not also forget Sam Williams Dixon, who will
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  Speaker 3: be in somewhere as well. But I fully expect CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Donaldson to get some reps with the Ones just because
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  Speaker 3: he's a senior and he did in the spring. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's interesting. Is is Bo Jackson closer to CJ. Donaldson
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  Speaker 3: than CJ. Donaldson is to James. People's probably not right away,
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  Speaker 3: but that's gonna be something to watch as they go on.
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  Speaker 3: Here's another one that I have tom, how much are
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  Speaker 3: we seeing the non slot receivers working in the slot?
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  Speaker 3: And we know Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tait will, but
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  Speaker 3: how advanced is Milon Graham now at that because we
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  Speaker 3: know like that's eventually what they want him to be
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  Speaker 3: able to do, because they want everybody to be able
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  Speaker 3: to play all three spots? Do we see much of
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  Speaker 3: that in camp where it looks like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: no big thing for him. Is Quincy Porter to that point?
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  Speaker 2: We know it?
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  Speaker 3: You know, Carnell Tay was able to do that as
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  Speaker 3: a freshman. Obviously, Jeremiah Smith was able to do that
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  Speaker 3: as a freshman. Can can Quincy Porter get into that
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  Speaker 3: and become one of those guys that can play two
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  Speaker 3: or three spots as a true freshman? They don't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: want to do that with guys. But if a guy
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  Speaker 3: is already like, I'm I know X, give me Z,
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  Speaker 3: give me give me h, let's go, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: no reason to wait around. Let's you know, let's let's
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  Speaker 3: get them going if they can handle it. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested to watch as much as we can because again,
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  Speaker 3: there's always so much to go going on, and it's like,
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  Speaker 3: if I could just watch the receivers, then I'd have
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  Speaker 3: a lot to tell you. When you're trying to watch everything,
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  Speaker 3: then you get you get you can get lost a
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  Speaker 3: little bit. So watching what I can of what I can,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see those receivers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's always a spot where there's more talent than
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  Speaker 1: there are spots on the field. So how are they
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  Speaker 1: going to you know, who's going to earn, you know,
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  Speaker 1: some kind of a role, whether it's a starting role
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  Speaker 1: or just a rotational role. How many guys can they
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  Speaker 1: really rotate in? Because yeah, you'd love to play six receivers,
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  Speaker 1: but if you're playing six receivers and you're playing a
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  Speaker 1: tight end, which they didn't generally tend to want to do,
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  Speaker 1: and you're playing running back, which they generally tend to
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  Speaker 1: want to do, getting that six receiver on the field
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  Speaker 1: means you're taking Jeremiah Smith off the field, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they want to do that in.
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  Speaker 2: A whole lot of first halves this year.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, there it is going to be a deep
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  Speaker 1: and talented wide receiver group and how does that group
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  Speaker 1: sort itself out? That's an interesting one. The last thing
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  Speaker 1: I had was we got to talk about the tight ends, Tony.
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  Speaker 1: It is as we know, has it been well established
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  Speaker 1: over the years. It is the year of the tight
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  Speaker 1: end now more than ever though, because man Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: has a tight end in next player that they have
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  Speaker 1: had some good receiving tight ends over the years. Kate
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  Speaker 1: Stover put together some really impressive seasons. A couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Gee Scott had a really you know, had
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  Speaker 1: some really big catches in the Texas Game, the Cotton Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: had that long catch from the very first play from
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  Speaker 1: scrimmage in the in the Rose Bowl against Oregon. But
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  Speaker 1: man oh man, I don't know that they've had a
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  Speaker 1: tight end that can catch and threaten downfield the way
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  Speaker 1: that Max Clayer can. They as I said earlier, they
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  Speaker 1: always want to have that tight end on the field
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  Speaker 1: because I feel that's important for you know, the run
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  Speaker 1: game and all that kind of stuff. But also it
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  Speaker 1: feels like the tight end might be the kind of
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  Speaker 1: weapon that they haven't had at that position for quite
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  Speaker 1: a while.
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  Speaker 2: This year.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just intrigued to see more from him because we
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  Speaker 1: saw flashes in the spring. You figure he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be more integrated in the offense this fall, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: really intrigued to see what that looks like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Tom also known as el Ano del ala Serrata,
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  Speaker 3: the year of the tight end. For those who are
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  Speaker 3: so inclined, for all those who celebrate, there you go,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, Max Claire could be Julian saying, or
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  Speaker 3: like Keynolt's best friend this season with so much attention
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  Speaker 3: on the receivers, and for good reason, how do you
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  Speaker 3: focus on all of these guys? So I think Max
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  Speaker 3: player is going to have a big impact, but it
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  Speaker 3: might be quality over quantity in terms of some of
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  Speaker 3: those impact because again, there's they're going to slow down.
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  Speaker 3: You're playing maybe what sixty five snaps a game on offense,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they're going to play quite a bit
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  Speaker 3: of twelve personnel as well, so you'll have some opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, we showed it in he showed it in
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  Speaker 3: the spring game how deadly he can be down the scene.
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  Speaker 3: But I think there's a lot more that he can do.
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  Speaker 3: And then and then what happens if they start designing
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  Speaker 3: stuff for him rather than just you're the third read,
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  Speaker 3: Like what does it look like when he's the first
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  Speaker 3: read in some of these offensive plays?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and with teams, you know, you figure Texas in
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  Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl did a pretty good job taking away
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, but that was not well, we'll just put
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  Speaker 1: one guy on him.
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  Speaker 2: That took a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: That was a that was an asset intensive game plan.
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  Speaker 1: So there will be opportunities for other guys if Texas
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  Speaker 1: goes that way again in Game one in just thirty
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  Speaker 1: one days. So if they do that, maybe a max.
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  Speaker 1: We will see how that goes. But that'll all start
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