Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Terrence Crawford Talk Retirement, Family, Boxing Career, Canelo Alvarez, Shakur Stevenson, Dein Haney, Ryan Garcia + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day waiting click your ass up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done.
- 0:08Speaker 3: Morning.
- 0:09Speaker 4: Everybody is DJ Envy, just Hilaris Charlamage and the guy.
- 0:12Speaker 4: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
- 0:15Speaker 4: in the building. Yes, indeed, you want to sit in
- 0:17Speaker 4: that seat now, because you know you get to pick
- 0:18Speaker 4: what seat.
- 0:18Speaker 1: You want to see the undisputed champion of the world. Okay,
- 0:21Speaker 1: one of the greatest ever doing.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Just said whatever.
- 0:23Speaker 5: I want to make sure you want to sit in
- 0:24Speaker 5: your seat again. I want to make sure.
- 0:26Speaker 3: Look like you're ready to fight now. I thought you were.
- 0:28Speaker 3: You're usually are bulky when you're not, you know.
- 0:30Speaker 2: And I'm losing weight right now for what, Just because
- 0:33Speaker 2: it's getting my body together, you know, fast and a
- 0:36Speaker 2: little bit.
- 0:36Speaker 3: Oh somebody been talking too much too much.
- 0:44Speaker 5: First of all, how you feeling, brother?
- 0:45Speaker 2: I feel great? You feel great? You know. I'm I'm
- 0:48Speaker 2: happy around, man, I'm living a life from traveling, seeing
- 0:52Speaker 2: the world and next word, better life. Right now.
- 0:55Speaker 5: People always asking are you coming back to do you
- 0:57Speaker 5: have that itch at all?
- 0:58Speaker 3: Just step down for a second, man, I'm just asking.
- 1:01Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't you know, I don't have
- 1:06Speaker 2: the desire to do anything no more, not that I can't,
- 1:11Speaker 2: It's just what I did everything. And then I look
- 1:16Speaker 2: back and say, ain't nobody gonna be able to replicate
- 1:20Speaker 2: a retirement in a career like I've done?
- 1:24Speaker 5: So are you still training? Though I'm not, don't even train.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Train at all? Like I work out from time to time,
- 1:32Speaker 2: like in the gym, but like as far as boxing, you.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Don't miss it at all.
- 1:37Speaker 6: His whole life.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been doing that seven. I think I'm gonna
- 1:41Speaker 2: go back to the gym, do a little couple of training,
- 1:44Speaker 2: you know here soon, probably a month or two.
- 1:46Speaker 1: How does that feel to when you're a person who
- 1:47Speaker 1: spent their whole life preparing for fights?
- 1:49Speaker 3: Did you prepare for retirement the same way?
- 1:51Speaker 2: I didn't? I didn't, you know the Canelo fight. Already
- 1:56Speaker 2: knew that I was gonna be my last fight. But
- 1:59Speaker 2: I never sat down and was like, what I'm gonna
- 2:02Speaker 2: do with Ohama, prepare for retirement and things like that.
- 2:06Speaker 2: It's just with something that God laid on my shoulders
- 2:09Speaker 2: and boom. I just handled it as it came.
- 2:12Speaker 7: It was dope the way you did the video. But
- 2:14Speaker 7: after the Canelo fight, you're saying you already had it
- 2:16Speaker 7: in mind that you was gonna be done.
- 2:18Speaker 6: But was there a.
- 2:19Speaker 7: Battle, like a struggle after that fight, like, man, do
- 2:22Speaker 7: I really want to be done?
- 2:23Speaker 2: Like?
- 2:23Speaker 6: Do I have another one in me? Did you have
- 2:25Speaker 6: that that moment?
- 2:26Speaker 2: Not at all, Not at all, because my mind was
- 2:30Speaker 2: already made up, so everything else just fell into place.
- 2:37Speaker 7: But with their offers like the Turkey, I ain't getting
- 2:40Speaker 7: nothing for no other fight, So that's BS people saying, no,
- 2:43Speaker 7: he got a nod for to fight Canelo and the
- 2:45Speaker 7: rematch for X amount of dollars or boots or yes,
- 2:49Speaker 7: we ain't.
- 2:50Speaker 2: Never even had a conversation about rematch with Canelo, boots
- 2:56Speaker 2: or no anybody else.
- 2:59Speaker 1: What's to prepare your mind emotionally, emotionally or financially when
- 3:04Speaker 1: it comes to retirement.
- 3:08Speaker 2: I would say emotionally. Financially that's always be there, that's
- 3:16Speaker 2: there every day. But you battling emotions every day, every second.
- 3:22Speaker 2: So I say emotion.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Because you still gotta But you still got to have
- 3:25Speaker 1: the money to retire, Yeah for sure.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've been doing it for thirty years. Money
- 3:30Speaker 2: being secure, yeah.
- 3:31Speaker 7: Not only making money though, But you people don't know
- 3:33Speaker 7: you you purchased a lot of properties in different states,
- 3:37Speaker 7: so you've been preparing to be financially free for Yeah.
- 3:39Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. Like before the Spense fight, I
- 3:43Speaker 2: told people like, I don't got a box no more.
- 3:46Speaker 2: I do this because I want to do it. You know,
- 3:50Speaker 2: y'all do it because y'all have to do it. It's
- 3:53Speaker 2: a reason why I can fight one time a year
- 3:56Speaker 2: and be comfortable with not fighting because I don't have
- 4:00Speaker 2: to do it. So after the Spence fight, yeah, that
- 4:05Speaker 2: just kind of pulled me to another level. Then Mage
- 4:09Speaker 2: them off, then Canelo and it's like I really really
- 4:14Speaker 2: really need to don't have to have my kids work
- 4:18Speaker 2: no more, you know, after the Canelo fight. So that's
- 4:23Speaker 2: just b I scene and putting it in the work
- 4:26Speaker 2: before I have to do everything else.
- 4:30Speaker 8: What were the lessons that you learned on that the
- 4:32Speaker 8: business side of it that made you think like that,
- 4:35Speaker 8: like you're naming your kids not fighting no more. You
- 4:36Speaker 8: don't have to fight. But like a lot of people
- 4:38Speaker 8: don't get the money business side of it right. What
- 4:42Speaker 8: lesson taught you to get it right?
- 4:43Speaker 2: Paying attention to the wealthy people, you know, looking at
- 4:48Speaker 2: all my people and all the people that had the
- 4:52Speaker 2: world in their hands and was successful and went broke.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Looking at the things that they did wrong, paying attention
- 5:00Speaker 2: to history. History always repeat itself if you pay attention.
- 5:05Speaker 2: So when you look at all these athletes that I
- 5:10Speaker 2: had a lot of money and a lot of fame
- 5:12Speaker 2: and every everything given to him, and you see what
- 5:17Speaker 2: they did with the money, then you say Dan and
- 5:20Speaker 2: I remember this guy was the man and he had millions.
- 5:24Speaker 2: Now look at him. I don't want to be like him.
- 5:27Speaker 2: I don't want to work my whole life fighting for
- 5:32Speaker 2: something and then lose it all and then everybody be
- 5:36Speaker 2: like man, I remember, I don't want to be that person.
- 5:39Speaker 1: You seem like you live a very modest life though, Yeah,
- 5:42Speaker 1: for sure, for sure he'll buy a fishing rod before
- 5:45Speaker 1: you buy a Bentley.
- 5:46Speaker 2: Yeah I ain't everybody. I got a Mercedes.
- 5:51Speaker 7: You know, when you build the nice house, money in
- 5:56Speaker 7: your house.
- 5:57Speaker 2: But that's the investment, you know, I look at it.
- 6:01Speaker 2: You know, a house as an investment.
- 6:03Speaker 6: Yeah, you know.
- 6:04Speaker 2: I'm not spending no crazy amount of money on cars
- 6:09Speaker 2: and jewelry and unnecessary thing. So that's just me.
- 6:14Speaker 7: Did you have a mentor, like somebody that like gave
- 6:16Speaker 7: you the game outside the ring.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a few mentors, you know, when talking
- 6:23Speaker 2: to them and them telling me like, hey, save your money,
- 6:27Speaker 2: save your money, like everybody always preached that.
- 6:31Speaker 7: Yeah, but people say that, but then other people say,
- 6:33Speaker 7: don't save your money, put it on the street, like
- 6:36Speaker 7: investing in stuff, because sitting in the back it ain't gonna.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Work for you.
- 6:38Speaker 2: That's still saving your money. That's you know, you're putting
- 6:41Speaker 2: your money to work, saving your money. It's not wasting it.
- 6:45Speaker 2: You're not going out just splurging and spending it like
- 6:50Speaker 2: they grow on trees, you know. When I was younger, See,
- 6:56Speaker 2: I never had a problem with saving my money. You know.
- 6:59Speaker 2: I was always the one, Oh he dusty, he dusty,
- 7:02Speaker 2: but I had a pocket full of money. I was.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I was that that guy, you know what I mean.
- 7:10Speaker 2: And my coach used to always tell me, like, man,
- 7:18Speaker 2: what you're gonna do around all that money? Tomorrow I
- 7:20Speaker 2: ain't promised. You need to start spending some of that money.
- 7:23Speaker 2: And I start looking at it like, dangn you're right,
- 7:26Speaker 2: because we don't know what tomorrow holds. So while we
- 7:32Speaker 2: all saving, saving, saving, we need to live life a
- 7:34Speaker 2: little bit as well. But that don't mean be you know,
- 7:38Speaker 2: stupid with your money. You know, be smart, enjoy yourself
- 7:41Speaker 2: when you can, but make sure that as much as
- 7:44Speaker 2: you spending, you're recouping at the same time. That way
- 7:49Speaker 2: you have a balance.
- 7:50Speaker 3: I see you spent.
- 7:51Speaker 1: You seem to spend a lot of money on experiences,
- 7:53Speaker 1: for sure, like traveling for sure.
- 7:56Speaker 2: For sure. You know, I'll spend my money on going
- 8:01Speaker 2: to a different country, learning history and learning something and
- 8:07Speaker 2: things that don't matter tomorrow, you know, taking my kids
- 8:12Speaker 2: out to a different country. They're gonna remember that for
- 8:15Speaker 2: the rest of their life, and they're gonna cherish that,
- 8:17Speaker 2: you know, me seeing you know, something that I would
- 8:22Speaker 2: have never thought i'd see in a different country and
- 8:24Speaker 2: learning something, then I come back to the States with
- 8:27Speaker 2: a different perspective. I appreciate that more than anything.
- 8:31Speaker 1: How do you make sure your family inherence financial literacy
- 8:34Speaker 1: and not just the money that you're gonna leave.
- 8:36Speaker 2: Just teach them, you know, you gotta, like like I
- 8:39Speaker 2: was taught, You gotta teach them. You gotta, you know,
- 8:42Speaker 2: let them know, like hey, listen, for every dollar that
- 8:45Speaker 2: you use, you know, that's a dollar you need to
- 8:49Speaker 2: make best right or you know, like money don't grow
- 8:53Speaker 2: on trees, like I said before, And you gotta you
- 8:57Speaker 2: gotta help them understand because they don't underderstand because of
- 9:00Speaker 2: the time that they was brought into this world, they
- 9:03Speaker 2: never had to worry about. And for me, I spoiled them.
- 9:09Speaker 2: So now I'm in a phase of not giving them
- 9:13Speaker 2: everything that they want.
- 9:14Speaker 9: Why do parents do that?
- 9:16Speaker 8: Like you spoil them and then you try to unspoil them.
- 9:17Speaker 8: Why don't just balance it from the beginning.
- 9:19Speaker 2: It's not because for me, I always wanted them to
- 9:23Speaker 2: have what I didn't. I never wanted them to have
- 9:26Speaker 2: to worry about what I had to worry about. So
- 9:30Speaker 2: for me, that's what my spoiledness came from. Like here, man,
- 9:35Speaker 2: y'all ain't gotta worry about nothing. The clothes, the shoes,
- 9:40Speaker 2: the phones, the games, like everything that y'all want, y'all
- 9:44Speaker 2: got because I sacrificed, you know, so y'all can have
- 9:50Speaker 2: the luxury life that I never had.
- 9:52Speaker 5: But you know, for granted.
- 9:54Speaker 2: There you go, so then you start looking at it,
- 9:56Speaker 2: this phone break, this phone break, this game system break.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Then it becomes oh, well, my dad got money, here'll
- 10:04Speaker 2: buy me another one. And then you start looking back
- 10:07Speaker 2: and you. Okay, No, they ain't appreciative.
- 10:11Speaker 5: They know it's a little bit for you. It's like
- 10:14Speaker 5: meave your lights to it.
- 10:15Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, on the daytime doing that, that's what. Yeah,
- 10:24Speaker 2: that too.
- 10:25Speaker 7: So hurts you a little bit to say no. Finally,
- 10:28Speaker 7: like if one of yourselves or something.
- 10:31Speaker 2: You're good with it. No. So my daughter, she she
- 10:36Speaker 2: always she always asked me. I said, man, why I
- 10:38Speaker 2: feel like you using me? I said, don't don't don't
- 10:42Speaker 2: use me. Don't do that to me. What she said,
- 10:44Speaker 2: you know, I love you. I said, man, you only
- 10:48Speaker 2: try to be nice and and do all this extra
- 10:51Speaker 2: stuff when you want something, what you want. You know,
- 10:54Speaker 2: I already know they want something. My daughters. My daughters
- 10:57Speaker 2: all do the same thing. And I telling them, like,
- 11:00Speaker 2: don't do that to me. You know what I mean.
- 11:02Speaker 2: You don't gotta love all up on me when you
- 11:05Speaker 2: want something, to do that naturally, you know. Yeah. My
- 11:09Speaker 2: boys they just like whatever. You know, boys they wild animals.
- 11:14Speaker 5: Man, your kids want the box.
- 11:16Speaker 2: No, they did at first, but now they wrestling, still
- 11:20Speaker 2: playing basketball.
- 11:22Speaker 7: You just they just went to it was Africa with you,
- 11:24Speaker 7: like you took them with you on the strip. But
- 11:26Speaker 7: what is that experience like like seeing your kids seeing
- 11:29Speaker 7: the world and seeing these different cultures, Like they.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Ain't gonna appreciate it until they get a little older,
- 11:35Speaker 2: you know, going to see the pyramid and want to
- 11:39Speaker 2: see Tanzania and beautiful. Yeah, they ain't gonna. They ain't gonna.
- 11:47Speaker 6: They don't realize what they're experiencing right now because they
- 11:50Speaker 6: show their oh really, or they were acting up.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Man. I took their phones and every day took their TV.
- 11:56Speaker 2: They ain't have no TV Africa, Man, they show that
- 12:00Speaker 2: what they do fifteen now he ten and twelve.
- 12:06Speaker 3: No, they gonna appreciate it. I'm sure you already notice it.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Now it'll be a regular casual conversation and they'll be
- 12:13Speaker 1: talking about Africa like it's nothing.
- 12:15Speaker 6: They don't.
- 12:18Speaker 5: They must have been out there just on their phone
- 12:20Speaker 5: the whole time.
- 12:20Speaker 2: No, they just was tripping, not listening, fighting each other,
- 12:25Speaker 2: getting into it with each other, just doing the most.
- 12:27Speaker 2: And I'm like, man, like y'all way in Africa trying
- 12:30Speaker 2: to like argue and fight with each other, being irritating
- 12:34Speaker 2: to each other, like do that at home? Like I
- 12:36Speaker 2: always tell them that, like when we all in public,
- 12:39Speaker 2: like you know, y'all don't fight with each other, like
- 12:43Speaker 2: y'all do that back at home or behind closed doors.
- 12:46Speaker 2: But some boys like, all.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Right, another thing I like about you too?
- 12:54Speaker 1: You never left Omaha, right, like emotionally, like like why
- 12:57Speaker 1: was it important to bill where you came from instead
- 12:59Speaker 1: of chasing somewhere else?
- 13:01Speaker 3: Like everybody like to run the Vegas when they box them.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Because when you look at those bigger cities, somebody made
- 13:08Speaker 2: them cities pop. Somebody put those cities on the map
- 13:12Speaker 2: to make people want to be appreciative and happy where
- 13:16Speaker 2: they're from. You know, I'm from Omaha, the place that
- 13:20Speaker 2: they said it's on the corn, you know. But when
- 13:24Speaker 2: they come to Omaha, they see a different side that
- 13:28Speaker 2: they never thought that they'll see. It's like, man, y'all
- 13:31Speaker 2: got black people here, y'all got a city here, y'all
- 13:34Speaker 2: got this, y'all got that, and it's like yeah, like
- 13:36Speaker 2: it's just like any other city, you know. And not
- 13:39Speaker 2: only that, you see those little kids that look up
- 13:45Speaker 2: to you and they like, man, if he can do
- 13:46Speaker 2: what I can do, and you give him a hope,
- 13:48Speaker 2: and you see them start working towards they dreams and
- 13:51Speaker 2: they goals and whatever it is, and you would be
- 13:56Speaker 2: the big inspiration for those little kids. And that's the reason,
- 14:01Speaker 2: the main reason why I haven't moved. I still live
- 14:04Speaker 2: there and I'm still active in the neighborhood.
- 14:07Speaker 5: I see you doing an analyst thing. Do you enjoy that?
- 14:10Speaker 2: It's cool? It's cool. I was nervous. I don't know why, but.
- 14:13Speaker 5: I mean, what made you nervous?
- 14:14Speaker 4: Because this is what you do. You I'm sure you
- 14:16Speaker 4: can see it before any other analysts.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't know. It's just a different lane,
- 14:22Speaker 2: different lanes. So I think this, this next one is
- 14:26Speaker 2: gonna be better. I felt like I was getting better
- 14:29Speaker 2: as we go.
- 14:30Speaker 5: Do you practice at home?
- 14:31Speaker 4: Do you watch old fights and just act like you
- 14:33Speaker 4: did to make sure you got to know?
- 14:38Speaker 1: They got mad at you when you was bringing down
- 14:39Speaker 1: Boots fight the other day though, Yeah, I don't know
- 14:43Speaker 1: what the commentary. I mean, I heard the commentary, but
- 14:45Speaker 1: I didn't understand what made them so upset about it.
- 14:47Speaker 1: I said, you was hating.
- 14:49Speaker 2: I'm always hating. If I say something, I'm hating on
- 14:52Speaker 2: on Boots, but it is what it is. They gonna
- 14:56Speaker 2: say what they're gonna say, because you know they been
- 15:00Speaker 2: putting my name with Boots name for years, like to
- 15:05Speaker 2: boost him, you know, so they're using my name to
- 15:07Speaker 2: catapult him.
- 15:08Speaker 7: So you saw you saw the clip I'm pretty sure
- 15:11Speaker 7: on online where they was asking him who's easy work?
- 15:14Speaker 6: And he said that you were easy work? Did you
- 15:16Speaker 6: see that?
- 15:17Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 15:17Speaker 3: What? What?
- 15:18Speaker 2: What?
- 15:18Speaker 6: What do you feel when you see something like that?
- 15:20Speaker 6: I don't feel nothing.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Like I was easy work?
- 15:26Speaker 7: Then you know his mental but you you gave him
- 15:30Speaker 7: his props on the wind with Xander. You just the
- 15:32Speaker 7: one thing you said, I'm people don't understand.
- 15:35Speaker 6: I'm just ten steps ahead of you. Like that. That
- 15:37Speaker 6: was a statement like, yeah, you did your thing, but
- 15:41Speaker 6: you still can't for me. It was that like a little.
- 15:44Speaker 2: Man listen man, Like I said, I'm retired and there's
- 15:49Speaker 2: no need to keep going back and forth with somebody
- 15:53Speaker 2: that I ain't gonna.
- 15:56Speaker 6: But is he the face of boxing now?
- 15:58Speaker 2: No? Canelos still face box? For sure? Like I've been
- 16:03Speaker 2: dealing with this type of stuff for years, He's just
- 16:08Speaker 2: getting a glimpse of it. You know. He everybody is
- 16:14Speaker 2: onto his his his train. I'm gonna say they jumping
- 16:18Speaker 2: on this train, you know. But he don't know that
- 16:21Speaker 2: those same people is gonna be turning against him and
- 16:24Speaker 2: in a minute, you know what I mean. And then
- 16:26Speaker 2: he's going to be at a point where he's gonna
- 16:28Speaker 2: be like, dang, I'm talented, but I'm not getting any credit.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Oh well, everything I do they say, oh, you're supposed
- 16:37Speaker 2: to do that. Every person I be, they're gonna be like, oh,
- 16:40Speaker 2: are you supposed to be He's gonna get to that
- 16:43Speaker 2: point where he's going to be like, then it's going
- 16:45Speaker 2: to be another fighter that come along, and they're gonna
- 16:48Speaker 2: start comparing him to him, and then they're gonna start
- 16:51Speaker 2: taking all the credit away from him. Now people gonna
- 16:54Speaker 2: some people are gonna give him credit, you know. But
- 16:57Speaker 2: he's gonna deal with the same thing that Floyd dealt with,
- 17:02Speaker 2: Terrence Crawford deal with, Andrew Wards right now, and history
- 17:07Speaker 2: gonna repeat itself. You know. He's gonna deal with the
- 17:10Speaker 2: same things that everybody before him dealt with, and then
- 17:15Speaker 2: he's gonna have to handle that.
- 17:16Speaker 3: What makes somebody to face a boxing.
- 17:20Speaker 2: What you generate, you know, Like I look at Canelo
- 17:26Speaker 2: like he moves the needle no matter who he fight,
- 17:29Speaker 2: where he fight, you know, and that's you know, what
- 17:36Speaker 2: I would consider the face of boxing. Like when Floyd
- 17:40Speaker 2: came around, like you knew, like Floyd was there, like Canelo. Yeah,
- 17:47Speaker 2: you know, you gotta give him his credit.
- 17:50Speaker 1: But it's got to be more than that though, right,
- 17:51Speaker 1: because I mean, you never moved the needle like that
- 17:54Speaker 1: pay per view wise.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you look at when you look at me,
- 17:58Speaker 2: I wasn't molded and marketed like them. You know, I
- 18:03Speaker 2: didn't have the backing like them, but I had the name.
- 18:08Speaker 2: People would say, oh, well, you wasn't a big name,
- 18:11Speaker 2: and you wasn't. How come I wasn't. Anybody I fought
- 18:16Speaker 2: made the highest payday in their career. Anybody that I
- 18:20Speaker 2: fought had well, outside of Canelo had the highest ratings.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Even Canelo this last fight the highest ratings that he
- 18:31Speaker 2: ever had, the highest you know.
- 18:36Speaker 7: Views, man, just I think that's the highest payday Canelo
- 18:39Speaker 7: ever got against it.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Like, when you look at it, you just say, Okay,
- 18:42Speaker 2: well why he didn't get that with these other guys.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that was the fight, right, Like
- 18:47Speaker 3: to me, those are the two faces of boxing.
- 18:49Speaker 1: When you'all thought, so, I got gotta be more than
- 18:52Speaker 1: just pa.
- 18:53Speaker 6: But you gotta do something in a ring too, You
- 18:55Speaker 6: got fight.
- 18:57Speaker 2: You gotta have a dance partner like I hate when
- 18:59Speaker 2: pe Boom like try to diminish one fighter to big
- 19:05Speaker 2: up another fighter and say, oh, well, this fighter is
- 19:08Speaker 2: the one reason why he did all these numbers and
- 19:12Speaker 2: why they sold so much. Okay, So if that's the case,
- 19:16Speaker 2: why he didn't do that with this guy or this
- 19:17Speaker 2: guy or this guy or this guy? Answer that.
- 19:20Speaker 6: That's what I say about Floyda.
- 19:22Speaker 7: I mean, I love Floyd, but people always talk about
- 19:25Speaker 7: Floyd is a pay per view king. But every time
- 19:27Speaker 7: he did it, he had to have a fighter that
- 19:30Speaker 7: came with a whole country. McGregor came with Ireland, you know,
- 19:34Speaker 7: PACKI came with the Philippines. Canelo came to Mexico. So
- 19:37Speaker 7: it wasn't like he to your point, he needed that.
- 19:41Speaker 7: All fighters need that other the villain of that dance.
- 19:44Speaker 2: You got to. You got to. You know. It's kind
- 19:46Speaker 2: of like any sport when you have two powerhouse football
- 19:52Speaker 2: teams going head to head, that's just gonna make the
- 19:55Speaker 2: views even more because the level of intense that he
- 20:00Speaker 2: does going into the game. The same way with basketball,
- 20:05Speaker 2: if the Lakers was playing the Celtics in the NBA Finals,
- 20:09Speaker 2: it's gonna be massive, you know, so.
- 20:12Speaker 9: For Boots, then who is that fight?
- 20:14Speaker 6: Then?
- 20:14Speaker 8: Like that would get him to the point where you
- 20:15Speaker 8: would even consider him face of boxing.
- 20:18Speaker 2: And he's gonna have to do a lot of work.
- 20:21Speaker 2: You know, he haven't even scratched the surface on becoming
- 20:26Speaker 2: the face of boxing yet.
- 20:27Speaker 5: Now you mentioned Floyd.
- 20:29Speaker 4: Do you think all the stuff that's going on with
- 20:30Speaker 4: Floyd hurts his legacy because we talk more about finances
- 20:35Speaker 4: the exhibition fights, but nobody necessarily talks about him his
- 20:40Speaker 4: legacy and the wins and all that.
- 20:42Speaker 5: What's your thoughts on that.
- 20:43Speaker 2: I don't think what he's going through hurt anything, because
- 20:47Speaker 2: everything that he's going through is speculation. You know, nobody
- 20:51Speaker 2: really personally know what he's going through. We see things
- 20:56Speaker 2: on social media and then they run with it. They say, oh, well,
- 21:00Speaker 2: Floyd is Floyd that Floyd Floyd broke. Come on now,
- 21:04Speaker 2: Floyd ben broke. I just can't see that. If a
- 21:07Speaker 2: person that was a billionaire is worth five hundred million, now,
- 21:15Speaker 2: oh he's broke because he's not a billionaire, and he
- 21:17Speaker 2: broke to me, right, he broke to nobody. You know,
- 21:21Speaker 2: a person that can do what he want, when you want,
- 21:23Speaker 2: and how you want. It's not broke to me, so
- 21:26Speaker 2: I just don't get into that. I don't understand why
- 21:31Speaker 2: people they take a narrative and then they run with
- 21:34Speaker 2: it and don't know what's going on.
- 21:37Speaker 7: I think because he always leads with money, right, everything
- 21:40Speaker 7: is showing money, like he's on the court side, you know,
- 21:44Speaker 7: pulling out bags of cash. So if that's almost like
- 21:48Speaker 7: that's what validates him. And I'm not throwing shot at
- 21:50Speaker 7: Floyd's career. He's one of the goats right in the ring,
- 21:53Speaker 7: no doubt, but it seems like he needed that validation
- 21:56Speaker 7: from the social media that I have money.
- 21:59Speaker 6: So I think that's that's why it is affecting them
- 22:00Speaker 6: more than anything.
- 22:01Speaker 2: I think it was just that he just sold people
- 22:04Speaker 2: a lifestyle. But you know, he sold people a lifestyle
- 22:07Speaker 2: to get them in tune with his personal life and
- 22:12Speaker 2: the things outside of the ring, because people will call
- 22:16Speaker 2: them boring. So then he made people tune in by
- 22:24Speaker 2: taking his lifestyle into perspective of the person that he is.
- 22:30Speaker 2: And some people hated them for it and some people
- 22:34Speaker 2: criticized them for it, and that's what made him a
- 22:37Speaker 2: bigger superstar in the game because people like, oh man,
- 22:41Speaker 2: I want to have money like Floyd. I want to
- 22:44Speaker 2: dry these cars like Floyd that lifestyle. He sold the lifestyle.
- 22:48Speaker 6: But what is it?
- 22:48Speaker 7: What do you know about Floyd that most people don't know.
- 22:51Speaker 7: I know you developed a better relationship with him over
- 22:53Speaker 7: the years later on in your career like that.
- 22:55Speaker 6: Maybe people a misconception.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Of Floyd Man floyda cool dude. You know, Like a
- 23:00Speaker 2: lot of people will say he want to be the
- 23:02Speaker 2: center attention and things like that. But I never want
- 23:05Speaker 2: to be the center. So it don't fake me like
- 23:08Speaker 2: you have that, you know what I mean. But like
- 23:11Speaker 2: Floyd Man, like I appreciate him because like he'll just
- 23:15Speaker 2: hit me up out the blue. How you how you're
- 23:17Speaker 2: the family. Don't want nothing, just just checking on me.
- 23:21Speaker 6: Nothing to do with box, nothing to do with boxing.
- 23:23Speaker 2: Like he'll just call me, how you doing, How the family?
- 23:26Speaker 2: How the kids? You know, how to health? Everything? Good?
- 23:30Speaker 2: All right? I don't want nothing. I'm just checking on
- 23:33Speaker 2: your family, you know, like when I'm in Vegas here,
- 23:36Speaker 2: but like come come, come to the skate ring. We're
- 23:39Speaker 2: gonna be skating.
- 23:40Speaker 7: You know you're here, like just you know, so you
- 23:43Speaker 7: get upset where people like Baracking myself do fantasy matchups
- 23:46Speaker 7: with you and Floyd.
- 23:47Speaker 6: Does that bother you?
- 23:48Speaker 2: No, because that's just what boxing is. You know, people
- 23:53Speaker 2: compare Jordan and Lebron. I'm pretty sure Jordan's get tired
- 23:57Speaker 2: of hearing comparisons with him and Lebron, But at the
- 24:01Speaker 2: same time they compare him to somebody before him. It's
- 24:06Speaker 2: gonna happen to sport. I don't get mad, and I'm
- 24:09Speaker 2: pretty sure you don't either.
- 24:10Speaker 3: Do you ever do that to yourself? Though?
- 24:11Speaker 1: Like, do you ever hear those conversations and be like, what,
- 24:14Speaker 1: what what would that fight look like?
- 24:15Speaker 3: Of course?
- 24:16Speaker 2: Okay, of course me as a competitor.
- 24:18Speaker 3: Of course, has he ever beat you in your in
- 24:20Speaker 3: your mind?
- 24:20Speaker 2: For me?
- 24:20Speaker 1: No, So you know what that fight would look like
- 24:28Speaker 1: if y'all thought, yeah.
- 24:29Speaker 2: For sure, definitely and then played it out and pictured
- 24:34Speaker 2: all that.
- 24:35Speaker 3: So how would have it gone? How would have it gone?
- 24:37Speaker 3: Would have gone?
- 24:39Speaker 6: For me?
- 24:40Speaker 2: To know?
- 24:41Speaker 5: Nobody to find out?
- 24:44Speaker 9: You talk much about to get back in the gym
- 24:45Speaker 9: a little bit.
- 24:46Speaker 2: No, no, no, nothing like that. I just.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Congrats on your SQ win too. That's but once again
- 24:55Speaker 1: I saw folks questioning that. They said that your victory
- 24:59Speaker 1: over Canelo one of the one of boxings defining moments,
- 25:03Speaker 1: but the debate is whether that one accomplishment should outweigh
- 25:06Speaker 1: fighters who competed more often and delivered a strongle overall
- 25:09Speaker 1: body or work like who.
- 25:13Speaker 2: I don't know, there you go. That's just you know,
- 25:16Speaker 2: somebody that's picking up the keyboard and say, let me
- 25:21Speaker 2: hate on Terrence Crawford. I don't think he should have
- 25:24Speaker 2: got this with one fight, Okay, So, like I said,
- 25:28Speaker 2: who was more deserving?
- 25:30Speaker 6: Because you took the fight defined good.
- 25:33Speaker 2: Fighter that was lined up against me should have deserved it.
- 25:41Speaker 7: I mean that that fight is so defining that people
- 25:44Speaker 7: would talk about it twenty years from now because of
- 25:46Speaker 7: the weight jump and the big fight. So I can't
- 25:49Speaker 7: even think of I mean respect to all the fighters
- 25:51Speaker 7: that won big fights last year, but I can't think
- 25:53Speaker 7: of anything that's either close.
- 25:55Speaker 6: So I don't know who's saying that.
- 25:58Speaker 2: It's crazy, because, like I said it, I don't think
- 26:01Speaker 2: nobody it's going to be able to retire in this magnitude,
- 26:09Speaker 2: jumping up two way divisions, beating the guy that was
- 26:13Speaker 2: undefeated in his division, no rehydration clause for undisputed, he
- 26:20Speaker 2: had all the belts, not only that walking away win
- 26:26Speaker 2: in every award there is. So that's a clean slate
- 26:32Speaker 2: from Fighter of the Year with ASPS, b W A,
- 26:37Speaker 2: A ring, just everything, and to be able to say,
- 26:43Speaker 2: all right, y'all, I'm out.
- 26:45Speaker 1: I learned my lesson. I only doubt and that was
- 26:48Speaker 1: against Earl. I just I just thought that you and
- 26:50Speaker 1: I just thought Earl would.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Get the other hand. But you know, clearly you changed
- 26:54Speaker 3: the trajectory of his whole career. Do you ever think
- 26:57Speaker 3: about that?
- 26:59Speaker 2: No?
- 27:02Speaker 3: But I ask you why though?
- 27:03Speaker 2: Remember when I when I say here, I'm just like,
- 27:06Speaker 2: why you like feel that way? Like I just felt
- 27:10Speaker 2: like and I told you, I felt like y'all was
- 27:12Speaker 2: just going off of what everybody else was saying and
- 27:16Speaker 2: not looking at boxing as a whole. You know, he
- 27:21Speaker 2: was promoted in a light to where everybody jumped on
- 27:26Speaker 2: the bandwagon and everybody followed on and things like that.
- 27:30Speaker 3: But definitely.
- 27:32Speaker 2: So people didn't look at the detail, like why do
- 27:37Speaker 2: I feel like he's going to beat this guy? People
- 27:42Speaker 2: didn't look at it. And I just aw every person
- 27:44Speaker 2: that I felt that was man enough to tell me
- 27:49Speaker 2: I think he going beat I'm like, why why do
- 27:51Speaker 2: you think that? Like I never get mad over somebody's opinion.
- 27:54Speaker 5: You know, why is that? Because most people are getting
- 27:56Speaker 5: pissed the.
- 27:57Speaker 2: F off because everybody got opinion. That's just like if
- 27:59Speaker 2: I play basketball and somebody was like, oh, man, I
- 28:03Speaker 2: think such such team gonna be dripped, Like, oh that's cool,
- 28:06Speaker 2: we'll see you know, and then you're gonna have shit
- 28:10Speaker 2: on your face when you lose, when you when you
- 28:13Speaker 2: was wrong about your opinion. But at the same time,
- 28:15Speaker 2: I just tell me, why why did you think that way?
- 28:18Speaker 3: Did you think he was gonna win in such of
- 28:20Speaker 3: course commanded?
- 28:22Speaker 1: Of course that was different. Man, I'm gon watching boxing
- 28:25Speaker 1: a long time. That was a different That was different.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Bro, Go to the first twenty sixteen when I first
- 28:33Speaker 2: came to the division, just twenty sixteen, when I first
- 28:38Speaker 2: started talking about it. He's the boogey man. I want
- 28:41Speaker 2: to fight the boogeyman. I want to fight the Keith
- 28:44Speaker 2: Thurmans and Danny Garcias. I want to fight all of them,
- 28:48Speaker 2: you know. And then when the fights start getting momentum
- 28:51Speaker 2: and people start talking about it, It's not going to
- 28:54Speaker 2: be a fight that y'all think it is. I've been
- 28:57Speaker 2: saying that for years, for years before the accident. Before
- 29:02Speaker 2: that when we bet, when he said bet one hundred thousand,
- 29:06Speaker 2: I said bet a million because I was that much
- 29:09Speaker 2: confidence than him that I was gonna, you know, do
- 29:15Speaker 2: what I do.
- 29:16Speaker 4: What makes you since you were tired, now, so you
- 29:18Speaker 4: can explain what makes you so confident in such a
- 29:21Speaker 4: greater fighter?
- 29:22Speaker 5: What did you know? What did you see?
- 29:24Speaker 2: Styles? See? I've been watching him since he was in
- 29:28Speaker 2: the amateurs, you know, and I knew that my style
- 29:32Speaker 2: and his style. My style was just more superior, you
- 29:39Speaker 2: know he was he was more flat footed, he was
- 29:41Speaker 2: more come straightforward, he was more telegraphing with his shots,
- 29:47Speaker 2: and I just knew my style was a bad matchup
- 29:50Speaker 2: for him.
- 29:51Speaker 7: And people say that, you know, your big fights came
- 29:54Speaker 7: later on your career, but when you got to the division,
- 29:56Speaker 7: when you beat Jeff horn Right to become waltweight champ,
- 30:00Speaker 7: I wanted those fights right away. So because you were
- 30:02Speaker 7: top ranked, was is it true that al Hamman kind
- 30:06Speaker 7: of iced you out where you couldn't get any of
- 30:08Speaker 7: those PBC fighters, Like that's what really happened. That's the
- 30:11Speaker 7: reason those fights didn't hapen. It's not because you didn't.
- 30:13Speaker 2: Want them, of course, man, everybody you know like, we're
- 30:17Speaker 2: not about to go over there and fight that dude,
- 30:19Speaker 2: but like for what?
- 30:20Speaker 6: So I was protecting all of his water weight.
- 30:22Speaker 2: Like ou didn't want me to fight Spence. You didn't
- 30:25Speaker 2: want that fight, you know, but you know Spence wanted it.
- 30:30Speaker 2: I wanted it, and the fight had to happen, right,
- 30:35Speaker 2: The fight had to happen. But like you got, you
- 30:39Speaker 2: got all these fighters over here in your stable, and
- 30:43Speaker 2: you got two fighters over here in this stable. One
- 30:49Speaker 2: of those fighters goes to this stable with all these guys.
- 30:54Speaker 2: So now you're over there by yourself. We em gotta
- 30:58Speaker 2: fight him. We can round.
- 31:01Speaker 6: Robing each other, all the money and honey in the.
- 31:03Speaker 2: House and starve him over there. He ain't got it
- 31:07Speaker 2: do nothing with us over here. And that's how it was.
- 31:10Speaker 6: The cream overs to the top.
- 31:12Speaker 4: What did you think about that alleged audio of al
- 31:14Speaker 4: him and them talking about which sounded crazy what they
- 31:18Speaker 4: can do to the box and the amount of power
- 31:20Speaker 4: they have.
- 31:21Speaker 6: Well, and now him is supposed audio. Did you did
- 31:26Speaker 6: you hear that? Man?
- 31:27Speaker 2: I don't know if that was real or legio.
- 31:30Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't confirmed to be real.
- 31:33Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, that's why I said a lesson.
- 31:35Speaker 6: Yeah, it sounds crazy, you do.
- 31:36Speaker 1: I want to ask you about twenty twenty one when
- 31:37Speaker 1: you're fighting Sean Porter, right if that comes across my
- 31:39Speaker 1: timeline all the time, right, and you're sitting down in
- 31:42Speaker 1: the corner, and your team tells you that you lose it.
- 31:46Speaker 3: And I don't remember you losing, so I had to
- 31:48Speaker 3: go look it up.
- 31:49Speaker 1: But all the judges had you up on the scorecards.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Then you're going there and you finished Sean Porter in
- 31:54Speaker 1: the tenth Why did they tell you were losing?
- 31:58Speaker 3: And what was your mindset when you heard that?
- 32:01Speaker 2: They didn't tell me I was losing. I told them
- 32:03Speaker 2: they had me down because.
- 32:05Speaker 3: I thought one of somebody in the audience.
- 32:08Speaker 6: Was it your core? Who was it?
- 32:10Speaker 2: Nobody?
- 32:13Speaker 6: Like you said, he wasn't looking at his people.
- 32:17Speaker 2: Two people, you know. I'm like, I'm chilling as you
- 32:21Speaker 2: can see. I'm like, what's up. They're like looking. I'm like, man,
- 32:26Speaker 2: what's they like?
- 32:27Speaker 8: No?
- 32:29Speaker 2: They like here he up? So I'm like hold up,
- 32:33Speaker 2: So I look he up. They're like, man, you gotta go.
- 32:38Speaker 2: I'm like he up. And they was like I'm like oh.
- 32:42Speaker 2: The first thing that came to mind was they trying
- 32:45Speaker 2: to rob me. They're trying to take it away from you.
- 32:48Speaker 2: So I'm like, man, you can't let them take it
- 32:50Speaker 2: away from you no matter what, Like go out there
- 32:53Speaker 2: and you know, go eat. So that was just my
- 32:57Speaker 2: mental either I'm about to get you where you're gonna
- 32:59Speaker 2: get me, but I'm about to step to you, and yeah,
- 33:03Speaker 2: step up the pace.
- 33:04Speaker 7: Once you find out that that you were up in
- 33:06Speaker 7: the cars and you go back to that person like, yo,
- 33:08Speaker 7: why did you say that to about the person in
- 33:12Speaker 7: the audience that told him that he was down?
- 33:14Speaker 2: No, because they don't know.
- 33:16Speaker 6: Oh, it was just that I was watching score cards because.
- 33:21Speaker 2: You know when you look at the broadcast and you
- 33:24Speaker 2: hear what they're talking about, and they didn't want it
- 33:27Speaker 2: to be a case where it was a close fight
- 33:31Speaker 2: and people can say, oh, man, you lost that fight
- 33:36Speaker 2: or that fight could have went either way, and you
- 33:40Speaker 2: have to face the critics and all that. So I
- 33:44Speaker 2: have conversations like, man, why do you say that they
- 33:49Speaker 2: played out the way it played out?
- 33:51Speaker 1: Speaking of I guess my mindset is, so if you
- 33:54Speaker 1: know that you can go in and ring and do that.
- 33:59Speaker 3: Always, if you could just go if you knew I could,
- 34:04Speaker 3: I could go take him out right now. You knock
- 34:05Speaker 3: him down twice in the time. Why didn't you just
- 34:07Speaker 3: do that much early?
- 34:09Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I was just coasting and
- 34:12Speaker 2: that and that Sean Porter fight. See me like I
- 34:18Speaker 2: always had a problem with I want to hurt you,
- 34:22Speaker 2: you know, but I don't have no ill will to
- 34:25Speaker 2: hurt you. It's kind of hard, you know what I mean.
- 34:29Speaker 2: So I'm sitting up there, I'm just like, I'm in control.
- 34:31Speaker 2: I know I'm winning. But then when it's like they
- 34:34Speaker 2: trying to take it from you, then a different side
- 34:37Speaker 2: of me kick in. It's like, oh, yeah, we got it.
- 34:41Speaker 2: We gotta get it in.
- 34:42Speaker 1: So if you're cool with Shan is a cool dude,
- 34:45Speaker 1: pops man cool. So when you're cool with people, you're like,
- 34:48Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to go do them dirty.
- 34:49Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, I don't want to do your that's crazy.
- 34:52Speaker 2: That was cool. Like I was cool with Ray Bell Tron,
- 34:57Speaker 2: you know, I was cool with Sean. I was cool.
- 35:00Speaker 2: We'll image them off, you know. Canelo was cool and
- 35:04Speaker 2: then four fights that went to the distance.
- 35:07Speaker 5: He asn't cool with Space No no no.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Men me and Spence's I respect him, but I won't
- 35:13Speaker 2: say we was cool, you know what I mean, Like
- 35:16Speaker 2: leading up to the fight, I won't say we was cool,
- 35:20Speaker 2: but we respect each other as man, as competitors and
- 35:25Speaker 2: things like that. But it was too much riding on
- 35:28Speaker 2: that fight. I'm like, man, I gotta do something to this.
- 35:32Speaker 7: You know, you're the first fighter to really be honest
- 35:34Speaker 7: about that, like about being cool with a fighter and
- 35:37Speaker 7: liking them personally to the point where it does affect
- 35:39Speaker 7: you a little bit, like in wanting to hurt that person,
- 35:42Speaker 7: because fighters be like, nah, when the bell ring, all
- 35:44Speaker 7: that go out the window. But you still, like Sewan,
- 35:47Speaker 7: I know you, you always say, like showing the last dude,
- 35:49Speaker 7: I want to fight in the watway because I like
- 35:51Speaker 7: the dude, Like I don't really want to want to
- 35:53Speaker 7: hurt him. So you needed that motivation from the audience
- 35:56Speaker 7: to actually do what you did.
- 35:58Speaker 2: Yeah, man, we grew up together. Like god. I still
- 36:01Speaker 2: to this day, I always tell Sean I didn't want
- 36:03Speaker 2: to fight him really, yeah, Like I've never seen myself
- 36:06Speaker 2: fighting him because you know, when we grew up, I
- 36:10Speaker 2: was at one thirty two, he was at one sixty five.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Oh yeah he was you know what I mean. So
- 36:16Speaker 2: growing up in a professional game. It's like y'all never
- 36:22Speaker 2: was calling for me to fight Sean when he was
- 36:25Speaker 2: WBC champion. Nobody never said nothing about Terrence Crufford and
- 36:29Speaker 2: Sean Porter fight until he falls. Spence And I told him,
- 36:32Speaker 2: I said, man, they just trying to gauge you. You know,
- 36:36Speaker 2: they not really, They just using you as a piece
- 36:39Speaker 2: of meat to see you know how it's gonna turn out.
- 36:43Speaker 2: And praying and hoping and wishing that you beat me
- 36:46Speaker 2: and then you and Arrow can get y'all rematch. They
- 36:50Speaker 2: ain't gonna have it happen.
- 36:51Speaker 7: Speaking of Arrow, like, I gotta ask you, his fight
- 36:54Speaker 7: was slated to be at one fifty eight against him Zu,
- 36:57Speaker 7: and ten days before the fight, I'm hearing that his
- 36:59Speaker 7: team records stick for the fight to be at one
- 37:01Speaker 7: sixty right? Is that a bad sign that he that
- 37:04Speaker 7: he's struggling to make weight? I mean it seems that way.
- 37:08Speaker 2: It could be two things. He's been out the ring
- 37:12Speaker 2: for so long, his body just not reacting like it
- 37:16Speaker 2: normally would. And bad thing is that he ain't ready. No,
- 37:24Speaker 2: but I think he ready.
- 37:27Speaker 6: Do you think he wins that fight?
- 37:29Speaker 2: Yeah? I gotta win it.
- 37:30Speaker 6: I'm going going out there. Do you think he stops Simseu.
- 37:35Speaker 2: I don't know. I think both of them there's a
- 37:38Speaker 2: good fight for both of them in the stage of
- 37:41Speaker 2: their career right now. I think both of them can
- 37:44Speaker 2: hurt each other, and I think it's gonna be an
- 37:47Speaker 2: entertaining fight. But I think arrow skills should take him
- 37:52Speaker 2: to success in this.
- 37:54Speaker 7: You think he could come back to be one of
- 37:55Speaker 7: the biggest names in the sport like he once was.
- 37:59Speaker 7: I mean, how many fights, Like let's say he washes
- 38:01Speaker 7: Tim Zu, does he have to win another big fight
- 38:04Speaker 7: to be considered like a big name in the sport again.
- 38:07Speaker 6: Because people writing.
- 38:08Speaker 7: Them off, they're talking about the accident a lot of people.
- 38:11Speaker 7: Some people don't even give you credit for that win
- 38:14Speaker 7: because of the accident. But he won two fights. But
- 38:18Speaker 7: I'm saying no, I'm saying the accident came before. But
- 38:21Speaker 7: but he won two fights after the accident. He beat
- 38:25Speaker 7: who got saying Danny Garcia and nobody mentioned an accident.
- 38:28Speaker 7: Then they just started mentioning it after you beat him.
- 38:33Speaker 2: It's gonna be like that. But if you look at
- 38:37Speaker 2: all my fights, you will see that there's always something.
- 38:43Speaker 2: It don't matter what it is It's all man, it's
- 38:45Speaker 2: because this guy is this guy is this guy? Alright? Cool?
- 38:48Speaker 2: So I came to the conclusion that there's gonna always
- 38:54Speaker 2: be something. So I just accepted before it even happened.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Before the Canelo fight, y'all, see what I said. I said,
- 39:03Speaker 2: I said everything that they're gonna say. Before the Spence fight,
- 39:05Speaker 2: I said everything that was gonna say. You know, I
- 39:08Speaker 2: start predicting everything that they're gonna say and preparing for
- 39:13Speaker 2: and it's like when they say, it's like you saying
- 39:16Speaker 2: everything that I knew you was gonna say before. I
- 39:20Speaker 2: could have pushed the fight Spence before he came back,
- 39:25Speaker 2: and then everybody was saying, all he came off of
- 39:28Speaker 2: accident when he fought, when he fought Danny Garcia, I said,
- 39:35Speaker 2: you're not ready yet. I went to Dallas to watch
- 39:39Speaker 2: him fight.
- 39:39Speaker 6: Oh really, or you say he not ready for you?
- 39:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I say he not ready. I said, let him,
- 39:45Speaker 2: you know, keep training and things like that. I got
- 39:48Speaker 2: into it with a couple of his friends and stuff
- 39:50Speaker 2: like that. We're going back and forth. I'm like, all right,
- 39:53Speaker 2: you know, let him fight again. So after the ooh
- 39:55Speaker 2: go fight, I'm like, all right now, it's time everybody say,
- 39:59Speaker 2: he looked at you, he's good, Let's fight. I don't
- 40:02Speaker 2: ever want to fight you at your your least best.
- 40:05Speaker 2: I want to fight you at the best.
- 40:08Speaker 1: What advice do you give your court, because I feel
- 40:11Speaker 1: like your core has adopted a lot of your mindset,
- 40:14Speaker 1: especially when it comes to critics, because people say the
- 40:16Speaker 1: same thing about your court, like they'd be like, oh,
- 40:18Speaker 1: he's boring. You know, you don't have no knockout power,
- 40:21Speaker 1: but I think he's just a great, technically skilled boxer.
- 40:24Speaker 1: What advice do you give him about.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Just keep doing what you're doing or don't worry about
- 40:29Speaker 2: what everybody else talking about. They're gonna watch you anyway.
- 40:33Speaker 2: You know, you just that much talented and more superior
- 40:38Speaker 2: than the people that you in the ring with that
- 40:41Speaker 2: they're going to criticize you when you that much above
- 40:46Speaker 2: your competition, They're going to criticize you no matter what me.
- 40:52Speaker 2: I'm here and they feel like, oh everybody you feel
- 40:57Speaker 2: I thought is B level, C level fighters, But they
- 41:01Speaker 2: wasn't that when they was coming into the the ring
- 41:04Speaker 2: to fight me, right, But once I fight him and
- 41:09Speaker 2: I dismantled him, and the fashion that I do then
- 41:12Speaker 2: they say, oh, he wasn't that good. He went that good.
- 41:15Speaker 2: But before the fight, everybody was saying, all this dude
- 41:18Speaker 2: about to knock you out, this dude, this, this dude
- 41:21Speaker 2: too big, this dude, you know, too talented. But then
- 41:24Speaker 2: afterwards they like, man, that wasn't even no close fight.
- 41:27Speaker 2: So then they gotta criticize you of oh, man, he
- 41:31Speaker 2: ain't for nobody. His resume is this, his resume is that,
- 41:34Speaker 2: And it's like, okay, cool, Like, I don't knock what
- 41:37Speaker 2: you're saying.
- 41:38Speaker 5: What do you think next fight should be?
- 41:41Speaker 2: Who? I wouldn't see him in? Devin, I think I
- 41:48Speaker 2: think that's gonna be the fight.
- 41:51Speaker 9: I thought that's how he signed the agreement to the fight, right.
- 41:54Speaker 6: No, that it's how for boxing. But Devin supposed he's
- 41:58Speaker 6: gonna sign with them, so it seems like.
- 42:00Speaker 2: It's gonna be. Listen, Devin Kishan, Devin Shakur, Devin Tank,
- 42:09Speaker 2: like Devin in a great spot right now. You know,
- 42:13Speaker 2: Devin got a lot of good options. Devin Ryan after him,
- 42:17Speaker 2: and rolely Devin Connor Band Like Devin got a lot
- 42:22Speaker 2: of opportunities right now, and so do all those guys
- 42:26Speaker 2: because they all can fight each other you know, so
- 42:30Speaker 2: I think that number of individuals they can rhynd Robin
- 42:38Speaker 2: except but everybody else.
- 42:43Speaker 7: How do you think Ryan and kind of band just
- 42:44Speaker 7: got announced? Like, how do you think that fight plays out?
- 42:46Speaker 2: Man? I think it's gonna be a better fight than
- 42:49Speaker 2: people think.
- 42:50Speaker 6: People picking a lot, most people picking Ryn.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Yeah, because the skill level. You know, we know Connor
- 42:57Speaker 2: started boxing late. We know Connor get reckless, we know
- 43:02Speaker 2: Connor opens up. We know Ryan can catch you with
- 43:07Speaker 2: that speed and that power with the left left hook.
- 43:11Speaker 2: But what if he don't land the left hook. We
- 43:13Speaker 2: see what Rowley did, and Rowley didn't start boxing at
- 43:18Speaker 2: a young age, you know, And if Connor can take
- 43:23Speaker 2: the same approach that Roly did and not get hit
- 43:27Speaker 2: with the big shots, then we might see a different
- 43:31Speaker 2: fight than we we expected.
- 43:33Speaker 7: Oh, Connor McGregor, You said, Connor, you guys went back
- 43:36Speaker 7: and forth. He claims that you will offer one hundred
- 43:39Speaker 7: million dollars to fight him.
- 43:40Speaker 6: In the ring and for the cage and then in
- 43:45Speaker 6: the boxing ring. Right, that's what he said. What's your
- 43:47Speaker 6: take on what just happened to him in the cage?
- 43:50Speaker 2: Nothing, that's just a freak accident. The injury you know,
- 43:53Speaker 2: you can't. You can't prepare for that, Like you go
- 43:56Speaker 2: throw a kick and you're getting injured without even landing anything.
- 44:01Speaker 2: That's that's just like when my my bro Steven, he
- 44:07Speaker 2: was sparing and he was bouncing and popped, he popped
- 44:11Speaker 2: his achille out of nowhere, know nothing, you know, So
- 44:14Speaker 2: you just can't prepare for things like that.
- 44:16Speaker 6: People saying that he had the injury already, right, like.
- 44:19Speaker 2: Nah, nah, if you injured, you ain't. You ain't bouncing
- 44:24Speaker 2: around and doing that stuff. But especially before the fight,
- 44:27Speaker 2: when him warming up and things like that, you're not
- 44:30Speaker 2: doing all that before you go out there, Like this
- 44:33Speaker 2: is just a freak accident that just haden.
- 44:35Speaker 1: What did you think when you saw Shakur and Shannon
- 44:37Speaker 1: shop going back and forth? Were you yelling at the laptop?
- 44:42Speaker 2: I was smiling. I was laughing because Schakor made his point,
- 44:47Speaker 2: you know, like Shannon wasn't getting it until he got it,
- 44:51Speaker 2: but then it was too late.
- 44:52Speaker 3: It's like.
- 44:54Speaker 2: You make it his point even stronger than you know
- 44:57Speaker 2: when he said it.
- 44:59Speaker 3: So I can't tell you about boxing.
- 45:01Speaker 2: You can't.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I can't tell I can't tell noney all about boxing, right,
- 45:04Speaker 1: That's what y'all do for a living.
- 45:06Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And you know, like just because you older,
- 45:11Speaker 2: that don't mean you know you're smarter because you went
- 45:14Speaker 2: to college and you got all these degrees and you
- 45:16Speaker 2: don't got a degree in boxing. And I love Shannon,
- 45:19Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That's it's you know, but hey, you.
- 45:27Speaker 8: Think should even like it seems like he don't care
- 45:29Speaker 8: no more, but should he even care about that narrative?
- 45:31Speaker 9: Like at this point in his career, Like no.
- 45:33Speaker 2: No, I always tell him keep doing what you're doing.
- 45:37Speaker 2: You know, they can't beat you. When they can't beat you,
- 45:40Speaker 2: they want to figure out any and everything to do
- 45:46Speaker 2: to make you fight how they want you to fight,
- 45:49Speaker 2: but they're not in the ring. The same way with Floyd,
- 45:52Speaker 2: all he do is run all that little pity pad
- 45:55Speaker 2: that sticking moved, Like no, like you mad because you
- 45:58Speaker 2: can't beat like you want me to give you the
- 46:02Speaker 2: opportunity to beat me by just standing in front of
- 46:05Speaker 2: you and trying to go socking boppers with each other.
- 46:10Speaker 2: So you criticize me on my technique and my style
- 46:17Speaker 2: because the people that you want to see, when the
- 46:20Speaker 2: people that you like can't beat me, it's just simple.
- 46:24Speaker 2: They can't beat me, They can't beat him, but he
- 46:26Speaker 2: almost did.
- 46:27Speaker 6: With Peter, he kind of gave into what the people.
- 46:31Speaker 7: He did, right, he was in the pocket fighting like
- 46:34Speaker 7: with a guy that was His volume was crazy, so
- 46:37Speaker 7: he gave in a little bit. Did you talk to
- 46:38Speaker 7: them after that fight?
- 46:40Speaker 2: Yeah, we always start, But a part of that was
- 46:45Speaker 2: the pay too, though.
- 46:46Speaker 6: Oh yeah, because he in front of you non stop,
- 46:48Speaker 6: you can't.
- 46:49Speaker 2: It's like these fighters that y'all claim better than him
- 46:56Speaker 2: and he don't punch hard, right, well, why ain't nothing
- 47:00Speaker 2: one of them just blowing through them. Same way with Floyd.
- 47:04Speaker 2: He had that the same thing that Chakoor getting. Floyd
- 47:09Speaker 2: was getting. But you never see no fighters just blow
- 47:12Speaker 2: through them and just like, oh you don't hit that hard.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Let me just walk through everything and just try to
- 47:17Speaker 2: knock you out, Like.
- 47:18Speaker 6: You don't see that?
- 47:19Speaker 3: Can boxes of it and press critics?
- 47:22Speaker 2: No, No.
- 47:24Speaker 8: I think about Clarissa when we had this conversation, because
- 47:26Speaker 8: I know people argue all the time, and like, like
- 47:28Speaker 8: she didn't get the BT Spirts Women of the Year
- 47:29Speaker 8: award and people were like arguing that she shouldn't have
- 47:33Speaker 8: and she was listening or and like Pat was listening
- 47:35Speaker 8: like her accolades, but it seems like with her, some
- 47:38Speaker 8: of those big awards she don't get.
- 47:40Speaker 9: But we know she's the best at what she does.
- 47:42Speaker 9: Like the critics that just love to throw that at her.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, women boxing, they always say
- 47:51Speaker 2: there's not enough women boxers to make that strong point,
- 47:59Speaker 2: so they always try to move the goalpost of her accomplishments,
- 48:06Speaker 2: like she accomplished more in boxing than any boxer male
- 48:14Speaker 2: or female. Now you can say because it's not that
- 48:18Speaker 2: many women boxers in the world, and it's easier to
- 48:22Speaker 2: become undisputed, and it's easier. This is easier that, But
- 48:26Speaker 2: at the same time, she still did what she had
- 48:28Speaker 2: to do. It's not her fault. You know. She's a
- 48:32Speaker 2: four time undisputed for a different way class, you know,
- 48:37Speaker 2: two time Olympic gold medals, like one loss in her
- 48:41Speaker 2: whole career. Like man, the things that she's achieved in
- 48:46Speaker 2: the sport of boxing, like we may I don't think
- 48:51Speaker 2: we're gonna ever see that done again, you know, And
- 48:54Speaker 2: people need to appreciate her, you know, because she takes
- 49:00Speaker 2: their approach that every other athlete takes, and that's work, hard,
- 49:07Speaker 2: dedicated life and put it all on the table when
- 49:10Speaker 2: he beat.
- 49:12Speaker 5: You know, earlier cham talked about Omaha and you lived
- 49:15Speaker 5: in Omaha. You said you never leave. And I remember
- 49:17Speaker 5: after you won and you had to parade, they pulled
- 49:20Speaker 5: you over. Did you ever think like I missed the Omaha?
- 49:24Speaker 3: Like why a y'all fucking with me?
- 49:25Speaker 5: Did you ever think that way at all?
- 49:26Speaker 2: No? Not at all, not at all. I just felt like,
- 49:30Speaker 2: you know, the cop that pulled me over was just
- 49:35Speaker 2: you know, on this high horse that just wanted to
- 49:38Speaker 2: be known or I don't know, I don't know. I
- 49:42Speaker 2: felt like he was just trying to prove a point
- 49:44Speaker 2: because he was the only one like everybody else, all
- 49:48Speaker 2: the other officers is like, man, just calm down. But
- 49:52Speaker 2: I'm like, no, this dude, like who I beat your
- 49:55Speaker 2: ass fucking bad?
- 49:58Speaker 5: But he knew that.
- 49:59Speaker 2: But that's the but like it just it just pisses
- 50:02Speaker 2: me off when people use their authority and abuse it.
- 50:09Speaker 2: You know, it's like, you don't gotta do that. You
- 50:11Speaker 2: don't gotta talk to me crazy, you don't gotta treat
- 50:14Speaker 2: me a certain way, like come.
- 50:18Speaker 6: On, man, he knew who you was.
- 50:24Speaker 2: And wasn't something. Yes, hours after the parade, he claimed
- 50:28Speaker 2: he didn't know who I was, and he only knew
- 50:31Speaker 2: who I was after the altercation.
- 50:36Speaker 6: That was after the party. But it didn't ruin. You're
- 50:38Speaker 6: not you still with someone else. I remember let that.
- 50:41Speaker 9: But you gotta go through all that and then it's
- 50:43Speaker 9: like a seventy five dollars fine I.
- 50:44Speaker 2: Saw or something like that. There you go, there you go.
- 50:47Speaker 2: And that's the way of saying that it was justified. Well,
- 50:52Speaker 2: you still did something wrong. All in all, he may
- 50:56Speaker 2: have been wrong, but we're gonna make it right because
- 50:58Speaker 2: you still broke.
- 50:59Speaker 6: A law, like speak, did you pay that voc.
- 51:03Speaker 2: It's like all that seventy five hours, like but.
- 51:07Speaker 8: Your guarded I saw it still suing the suing Omaha
- 51:11Speaker 8: and the police department and stuff like that for violating
- 51:13Speaker 8: the constitutional rights they did.
- 51:15Speaker 2: Like what was the need to bring everybody out the
- 51:19Speaker 2: car handcuffing? What do they do? They didn't do nothing?
- 51:25Speaker 9: Were you guys held that It wasn't that gun point
- 51:26Speaker 9: for thirty minutes. It was thirty minutes.
- 51:29Speaker 2: I was held at god point. But it's like all
- 51:32Speaker 2: in all, okay, you got me. You know, you said
- 51:35Speaker 2: you see my gun, But what you didn't you know?
- 51:40Speaker 2: We told you that we had his gun. Is it's viewable,
- 51:46Speaker 2: it's on his chest. I told you I had a
- 51:49Speaker 2: gun in the car, Then you go crazy, Cool, it's
- 51:52Speaker 2: not illegal for me to have guns. You know, I
- 51:57Speaker 2: got a lot of guns. But at the same time,
- 52:01Speaker 2: y'all didn't even have a protocol on how y'all react
- 52:05Speaker 2: to people with guns. So your thing was to pull
- 52:11Speaker 2: your gun because you felt threatened. But why, I'm not
- 52:14Speaker 2: in toxic kden I'm not belligerent or anything. You told
- 52:19Speaker 2: him you had a firearm, and like, like, what part
- 52:23Speaker 2: of me is making you feel threatened. I'm not moving
- 52:27Speaker 2: no kind of way to make you feel like I'm
- 52:31Speaker 2: reaching for a gun or anything. So I just didn't
- 52:34Speaker 2: understand that. You know, why was I getting a gun
- 52:37Speaker 2: pointed in my face?
- 52:40Speaker 1: Well, I want to ask one more questions. Did you
- 52:42Speaker 1: retire because there really was nothing else for you to do?
- 52:46Speaker 1: Because you said you knew you was gonna retire after Canelo,
- 52:49Speaker 1: and then when you announced retirement, people say, nah, you
- 52:52Speaker 1: shouldn't retire yet, But nothing they said really made sense,
- 52:55Speaker 1: Like did you really retire because you looked at the
- 52:57Speaker 1: landscape and You're like, there's nothing else for me to do.
- 53:01Speaker 2: So if you look at when I retired, I retired
- 53:07Speaker 2: after uh, what's his name? I one sixty?
- 53:12Speaker 6: Who's that one sixty?
- 53:13Speaker 2: He was supposed to fight. He was supposed to fight
- 53:16Speaker 2: my boy from Dominican one sixty.
- 53:21Speaker 6: He was Domas Carlos. He's supposed to.
- 53:24Speaker 2: Fart fight a Dominas Jennebeck. Oh, okay, So if you
- 53:28Speaker 2: look at the landscape of boxing, right you would say, okay,
- 53:34Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you who would I thought.
- 53:37Speaker 3: None of the stuff they said made sense. They're talking
- 53:38Speaker 3: about ben Vida, then I heard it.
- 53:41Speaker 6: Heavyweight.
- 53:44Speaker 1: Then I started jenibate things. Then they were saying Boots okay,
- 53:47Speaker 1: none of that made sense to me. And then a
- 53:48Speaker 1: Canelo remagical okay, so.
- 53:52Speaker 2: Canelo that was off the table. You know there was
- 53:56Speaker 2: no rematch cause nobody said anything about Canelo. Still to
- 54:01Speaker 2: this day, nobody have said nothing about Canelo.
- 54:04Speaker 6: But would you for him if if the rematch of present.
- 54:07Speaker 2: If it was, if the rematch clause was in the
- 54:09Speaker 2: in the contract, then I would have honored that just
- 54:13Speaker 2: off of who I am. Boots wasn't nowhere in the
- 54:20Speaker 2: in the word roam of us fighting because it just
- 54:25Speaker 2: didn't make sense. Jane back, Like, what would I get
- 54:29Speaker 2: out of fighting boots? Paying it for?
- 54:34Speaker 3: That's really like literally, because that's.
- 54:36Speaker 2: What I always ask people, what would I get? He
- 54:40Speaker 2: ain't no champion, Like what would I get? Like, Oh,
- 54:44Speaker 2: you bought you beat the young Lion, that's it. That's it.
- 54:49Speaker 2: So every fight that I thought since two thy fourteen
- 54:56Speaker 2: being for something, every single fight, either I'm the de
- 55:00Speaker 2: fending my title or I'm going to conquer another division
- 55:04Speaker 2: for a title, undisputed everything. So I looked at the
- 55:10Speaker 2: landscape of everything and I said, okay, Canelo, I'm gonna
- 55:14Speaker 2: go one sixty eight boom. Then after that, then what
- 55:20Speaker 2: Jannebek was supposed to fight Carlos adamis for his fight
- 55:26Speaker 2: his belt. Jannebek had two belts, Carlos had one. That
- 55:30Speaker 2: would have been three belts on the line. Whoever would
- 55:34Speaker 2: have won that would have fought for the other belt
- 55:36Speaker 2: that would have been undisputed. And I won sixty I said,
- 55:40Speaker 2: all right, cool, after Canelo be Canelo, and I'm gonna
- 55:46Speaker 2: see what they do down here. So then it came
- 55:51Speaker 2: out that Jennebek was on performance enhancement, so you know
- 55:58Speaker 2: that fight got canceled. I don't know if they did
- 56:01Speaker 2: they strip them for a title. I think they stripped
- 56:04Speaker 2: them for a title.
- 56:04Speaker 7: So it's like, all right, So the only way you
- 56:06Speaker 7: would have came back, if everybody would have some one
- 56:09Speaker 7: person would have came became undisputed at one sixty and
- 56:12Speaker 7: you would have fought one more fight to be on
- 56:13Speaker 7: distributed in the fifth fourth division.
- 56:18Speaker 2: So I was just like, man, this really ain't nothing
- 56:21Speaker 2: for me to do. No more like that would have been.
- 56:24Speaker 2: I'm I'm into making history, making legacy fights. You know,
- 56:30Speaker 2: that would have been a historical legacy fight. Oh man,
- 56:33Speaker 2: this guy come from one thirty five to one sixty
- 56:37Speaker 2: eight then come back down to one sixty again. Yeah wow,
- 56:45Speaker 2: coming off the Canelo fight and becoming undisputed.
- 56:49Speaker 6: But it didn't pay out like that.
- 56:51Speaker 2: It didn't so well.
- 56:52Speaker 5: Congratulations and enjoy retirement.
- 56:54Speaker 2: Brother. That's right.
- 56:55Speaker 5: It's Terrence Budder Crawford. We appreciate you for joining us.
- 56:58Speaker 3: I do I guess one more?
- 57:03Speaker 1: Do you do you think boxing was your purpose or
- 57:05Speaker 1: was it simply the vehicle to get you to your purpose?
- 57:08Speaker 3: Do you even know what you think what your purpose is?
- 57:11Speaker 2: I think two things, because I always say I was
- 57:17Speaker 2: born a fighter, you know, and I think boxing was
- 57:22Speaker 2: part of my purpose. But I think my purpose is,
- 57:26Speaker 2: you know, giving back to the community and and the
- 57:29Speaker 2: and the kids and the youth. I think that's my purpose.
- 57:33Speaker 5: M hmm, well, thank you again. It's Terrence Bud Crawford.
- 57:36Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, Yes, every day.
- 57:42Speaker 3: Up the Breakfast Club.
- 57:44Speaker 2: Finish, y'all done.