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Football at Four: Further Detailing Eagles' Dickerson Situation and Much More · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Let's get deeper into the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: The latest from training camp and joining us now is
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  Adam Kaplan for Football and for Power by the Inside
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  the Birds podcasts Inside the Birds dot Com as Adam
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  Kaplan joins us now on ninety seven to three ESPN,
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  Adam Wilkom in how you doing today, Josh.
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  Speaker 3: I am, Well, just saw my friends at stretch shows,
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  feeling good and getting ready to go to yet another
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  Eels Brown's joint practice my third and last four years.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Sefanski and Siriani, they basically become friends at this point.
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  It seems like the way they talk about each other
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  and some of these press conferences. But on the field, Adams,
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  where we gotta go, because we gotta start with the
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  big news they dropped yesterday landon Dickerson. The good news
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  is is not gonna be an injury that keeps.
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  Speaker 1: Him out for the whole year.
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  Speaker 2: But Adam get into why this was significant because it
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  was the history of Lendon Dickerson that led to him
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  being a second round pick and that led to when
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  he went down on Sunday being such a concern.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, if you look alenn In Dickerson's injury history,
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  particularly with both knees and significant He said, both acls repaired.
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  We know he had a surgery after the Super Bowl
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  to one of his knees, Devin meniscus and one of
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  his knees. Trimmed. Well, I'll get to that in a
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  minute what it means. And you just worry about this.
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  As a matter of fact, I know Jeff and I
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  are probably going to do a show, oh probably tomorrow morning.
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  Just to further our discussion. We had a Monday morning
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  on Dickerson about just the roster. In the future of
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  the roster. The Eagles have thirteen draft picks next year.
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  You can't use all of them. There's nobody to pick
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  thirteen flyers. One of them's got to be Josh a
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  developmental third round pick, fourth round pick, kind of like
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  Jack Dreschal was of Jack of all trades, spot starter
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  if he needed to. But so on, if Dickerson can't play,
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  if then doesn't work out next year, if something happens
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  with Cam Jurgens back next year, if Kennell's not ready
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  next year, whatever the case may be. To no, they
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  could try cross train will absolutely be ready because right now,
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  Brett Toath is not an answer. It's a. That's a
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  coaching term the coaches have give me over the years.
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  What's our answer this doesn't work. Well, Brett Toath right
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  now will be the left guard. It's just to me,
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  it's not a good enough answer right now. Let's be
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  honest about it.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: And you know part of that answer with Brett Toath
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  is also the fact Adam is because the guy that
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  you traded for when you trade away CJ rr Johnson,
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  he is also al ken Yon Green talk about the
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  impact of his shoulder injury.
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  Speaker 3: Well, see they made the trade for Green. As you know,
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  he actually took a pay cut at the time of trade.
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  His money's guaranteed, but it's under two million. To this point,
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  before that shoulder issue, it hadn't worked out yet. He
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  had not made it down on the evening on the
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  second team or third team. So we're not And that's
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  the problem with this injury. This will be in a
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  golden opportunity. Move him into the twos, throw him in
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  there if you feel like he's ready to do it.
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  See what you have. Well, they can't do that because
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  he can't practice right now. So it's not good. Josh
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  Eagles really thought and I don't disagree with it that
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  their death is pretty good. Well, you take Dickerson out,
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  take Green out right, and you know they've got problems
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  on the defensive line. They're down two tackles. They traded
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  Booker and now now gave ho I saw i sold
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  I saw him get injured Sunday night. So the depth
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  that we thought Josh on this football team was great,
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  it's severely tested right now.
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  Speaker 2: So now with Dickerson out, what is your expectation for
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  the next couple of weeks with the Eagles and handling
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  they still need bodies at him to go out there
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  for the inner squad practices and for these preseason games.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you need three teams because if everything holds true,
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  the only starter on either side of the football to
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  play in the preseason last year was McKay Beckton because
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  they although they knew he was going to start, they
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  just wanted to get more reps. So if it holds
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  true like this week, obviously, when you when you have
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  to join practice, and we'll explain to that a minute
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  in more than death, but when you have join practice,
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  you typically don't play any starters. You've let the backups play.
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  But yeah, they look Darren. We know Darren Cannard who's
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  been a right guard right tackle. He was drafted that
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  way by the Chiefs. Eagles are high on this player.
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  He's got cross trained today at left guard. You know,
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  it's not easy. People think it's just so easy to
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  go from guard to guard. It's not. It's a metal thing.
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  It's not easy. Oh. Line coaches have told me that
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  over the years. I have one yell at me because
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  I said the guy, I can't be too hard. He goes, no, dude,
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  it's it's melee really hard for these guys. Josh. It's
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  one thing with Darren Canard. If Darren Cannard got left
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  guard reps in OTAs, I don't believe he did. That's
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  one thing where where he had already gotten up there.
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  But I don't believe he's got any in training camp.
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  So that's not easy. Like that, this left guard thing.
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  If Dickerson's not ready week one, that's a little bit
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  of a platmar right now.
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  Speaker 2: Adam, you mentioned the joint practices Eagles Brown's third time
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  in the last four years, and of course, Adam, let's
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  talk about what to expect this week, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, So tomorrow will be a heavier practice on Thursday.
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  Thursdays will be a later because it'll be two days
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  for the gaming games on Saturday. So this is where jacarein.
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  Benn and I know today he didn't get one. You
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  got work with the ones on Sunday. As I saw,
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  this is a good opportunity against the Browns once to
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  roll him in there. We know that two other guys
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  you're competing for it. The Eagles are going to want
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  to know, Josh, trust me on this. Gurager want to
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  know by the NA training camp could this guy start,
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  because if not, that's where Hallie Roseman again hits thirteen picks.
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  We saw him do it with Ronald Darby, saw them
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  do it with DJ Garter Johnson, I'll get up to
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  the season, John Doatson, Howie will do what ever it takes.
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  Is someone who's to work for him. Told me one
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  of the things he really respect about Howie is. He's fearless,
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  he doesn't care, he'll do whatever he can be great,
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  but makes in the NFL's best general manager. So they're
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  gonna they're gonna evaluate Bennett a little bit harder this week,
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  and we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: What happened when you look at this situation, what has
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  happened in the previous two intersquad practices in your mind,
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  that is going to relay to twenty twenty five, because Adam,
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  there is a lot of familiarity between these coaching staffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so wait you yeah, so we're talking about twenty
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  twenty two. I was at you were talking about the
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  Browns Eagles tooin practice, right, yep, Okay, so twenty two
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  I was there. Gosh, they Eagles kicked their tuckases would
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  be a understatement. They beat the heck out of them.
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  There was a former NFL head coach right who I
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  met who was traveling doing a training camp tour. The
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  guy told me this is Eagles were super Bowl team.
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  He said it was the best team he saw. Eagles
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  rosters way better than Browns and Eagles dominated them. Then
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  then the next year the Browns talking to them. Though
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  you don't really game plan. They did a couple of
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  things because they felt that they had to bring a
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  little bit on their d line versus the Eagles offensive line.
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  They thought the Eagles offensive line beat them up, and
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  they did some stunning and practice. They did a little
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  double teeming against Cam Jurgen. As a matter of fact,
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  I remember that two years ago. So that was two
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  years ago. So looked it. If you get your ass kick,
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  you're gonna want to You're gonna want to show up.
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  And those practices were more even. So, look, you could
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  have a better roster and the Browns I expect this, though.
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  I know the Eagles have some issues on their defensive
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  life with depth and overall talent where the edge group.
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  The Browns offensive line is not very good at tackle.
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  Not Jack Conklin is an older tackle, done a lot
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  of injuries, Dwan Jones relationship be playing right tackle not left.
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  I'm very curious borrow what that looks like. If the
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  Eagles defensive line can handle themselves. Remember Martin Emerson when
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  it started coining for the Browns as a bad injury,
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  so that they're kind of lighted corner. There's some things
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  Egals can do with their offense and vice versa. So
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  I'm in shouted that, look, you got Miles Garrett to
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  deal with. We saw them at one of once two
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  years ago that that was a challenge for the Eagles.
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  And look the way these are structure, Josh. The way
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  it is is there's a script. Each team hands each
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  other's script. This is what we want to work on.
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  You're I'm told you're not a lot of deviate it
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  at all. You can't change it up. You could shorten it,
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  but you can't. You have to go by the script.
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  So let's say you want to do a red zone
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  two minutes, four minute goal line, seven on seven elevens.
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  There's just obviously special teams. It's whatever you think you
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  need to work on, but it's got to be cleared
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  by the opposite head coach. I won't say the head coach,
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  but there was a head coach who went against an
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  NSC South team and a changed things midway and they
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  actually stopped practice to say you can't do that stuff, man,
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  that that's not right. So again just letting everyone know
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  it's scripted.
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  Speaker 2: And then Adam, before we let you go, what is
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  the domino effect impact of what is going to happen
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  on Wednesday and Thursday, then to what people will see
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  at the preseason game on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a great question, Josh. She here's the thing.
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  If pret Toast could potentially be starting, you gotta, you gotta,
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  this is interesting. I would think since there's a potential
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  him starting week one, it goes through Wednesdays and Thursday's practice.
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  And I know it sounds crazy and I don't know
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  that they would do this, but they actually may hold
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  them out because what if he it's hurt or or
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  I don't know, you just can't It sounds ridiculous to
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  say this, but they actually can't afford him to get
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  hurt because where they you got Dary carrd Now Matt Pryor,
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  as we noted on Monday Morning Show, has never started
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  a game at Left Guard. I know he's I know
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  he could practice there, but they got a problem there, Josh.
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  I'm just this is where the trade would not surprise
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  me at all, because they need an insurance post. So
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  this they Josh, the Eagles are absolutely capable of making
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  another run. And you can't be serious, Like, if you
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  want three or four games out of Brett too, knock
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  yourself out. But if Dickerson could have played for a
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  heavy season. You just can't because remember Tyler Steen's a
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  first year starter at at right guard, George's coming up
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  back surgery, and then you got Layn Johnson is thirty
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  five now and by light up, by the way, I
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  had a history of back problems. I'm not trying to
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  jint anything. I'm just giving you the reality of this thing.
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  Got to be careful here.
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  Speaker 2: You got to cover all your babes absolutely and covering
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  on ninety seven to three ESPN Adam, great stuff, appreciate you,
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  juping on, Thanks real quick.
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  Speaker 3: So we did it inside the Data with Sam Our
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  Data Guy, Analytics guy and Jeff. It's up there now.
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  You gotta hear it. I look done. Just your Corey
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  and Bennett and a little bit on Daris Cooper. Folks,
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  you're gonna love this one. You gotta hear it all right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll put on the cue for myself when I drive
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  home today.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks Adam, Thanks you got a text man Se