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February 26 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #239 · The Courtroom Files

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  Good morning everybody. Happy Thursday.
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  Welcome to TCF live. Let's start our day with judge
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  McNally. No problem.
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  Let me just check one thing. This is the first offense.
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  I can give you an adjournment for two weeks and your lawyer
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  can show up if you're but that's that's only if you're going to
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  hire the lawyer, Yes. I will.
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  All right. Well, these two weeks before I
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  just haven't been speaking, so that's fine.
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  Okay, but John 2 weeks. That'll be.
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  That's 26, judge. I'm sorry.
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  What my March 26th. Wow.
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  That's yearly Trend day. I hear ya because you're off and
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  for us to add one the week before, really with their
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  docket. Okay, that's fine.
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  We'll just do this at 8:30, okay?
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  We don't want to do 8:30 because you have to school that day at
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  night. I'm sorry.
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  So we can do 9:45, 9, thank you for reminding 945.
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  All right. So you go down the hall.
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  We will give you a notice. And you will.
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  You'll come back with your lawyer on that date.
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  Okay. Thank you.
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  Thank you. All right, go off the Record.
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  Can you guys come up here real quick?
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  Thank you. Probably easier around this way,
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  honestly, but you do what you want.
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  You can stay there is fast or a lot of people, go off the
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  Record. Oh yeah.
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  It's not supposed to show in the season 5 that, you know why?
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  so, Here. In the Miami Vice Versa.
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  Oh, it's all of the facilities accordingly different.
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  I know. And I know his personality
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  living what you ever seen. One week.
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  Like, oh. just, She? Is glad it's not something else,
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  and it's right in the way. That he don't you need to say
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  into a bears. They shutting it over.
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  What? So honestly it's elevated.
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  So what was it really? Oh five.
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  Oh six. that's why it's, I think it's good cause or If it was
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  over, I'm just here. I was just Usually do that.
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  Out of speakers. So, let's pick up.
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  So It's not like this coming out
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  speakers for sale. Breaking reading this.
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  Yeah, you can hear about Michael. so, This is a real. so,
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  He? I mean, I'm Gonna Let You
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  see this phone. Know. just,
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  More in front of me. Touch and assuming that wasn't
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  here, but he took the little you took the plead, but I'm assuming
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  you giving these instructions. Yeah, that's a good question.
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  Do they have fish? You take this big but if
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  somebody doesn't do As a defense attorney and tell him he's
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  saying it knows it. He knows it.
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  He tells you told me, I mean, Angela, who rules saying do not
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  give me that. You see because that's a file,
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  your thank you for like me. We're gonna set it into weeks.
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  I'm going to sleep. You know.
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  I mean I'll make it work. I don't want to make it all the
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  way hit Heather. He'll get my phone look at.
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  Yes, I'm gonna need a date before March 26th with Trenton.
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  Tony. Bologna.
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  Can you come in another day? Yeah, let me check.
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  I'm usually here. There's a regardless church so
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  if you're not here I should be here.
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  I'm just not here the next two Thursdays All right, let me look
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  at the calendar and see what we can do.
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  I said that you the night, the 19th, we would cross over judge,
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  hessen has Trenton Why don't I do with the afternoon?
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  Which, what time she's done with her.
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  Docket that day you love me? Let me take a look at what she's
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  got on that day. We looking at the 19th century
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  in the afternoon. Yeah.
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  So I could set it like one. Yeah, you could.
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  Yeah you could go in the afternoon.
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  All right let's go go back. Oh thank you very much.
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  All right people again we go back on record people against
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  Norbert passed or 252644584. Hi and that with your lawyer.
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  Mr. Pastor and with prosecutor just now up here, everybody's in
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  the courtroom. Mr. Bologna, I better ask for
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  your appearance please, thank you.
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  I'm gonna join the sentence to March 19th.
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  Wants the defense wants to file a motion so I'll ask you to get
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  that by the 10th anyway. Okay that's 12 is good but no
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  later that we have one p.m. 1 p.m. okay.
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  Thank you very much. Thank you.
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  Thanks, have a good day. Thank you, Mariah, Renee Adkins
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  251498898 and B. And I need my, a daily seated at
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  the table up here too, please. Or she ends soon.
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  Man. Your name.
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  All right. Why you walk in here today?
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  She had a show cause why didn't you show up and October and talk
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  to her sheep? He made this a lot worse.
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  How much do you have today? Where do you work?
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  I was doordash until I lost it. On the B file.
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  Heather, I'm gonna have a paid 100 now.
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  Then. Tell me how much you can afford
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  to pay. per week or week by weekly, whatever the case is I
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  could do was to be violently then. 50 Bi weekly.
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  Beginning. March, the 16th.
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  Okay. I'll reduce your balance.
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  To 225. plus clearance fee is still going to be so you'll owe
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  125 plus your clearance fee on this no insurance charge, all
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  right? And then on the other case he
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  invalid play. just, uh, that's file a Heather balance reduced.
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  I don't know why I'm doing this, but I'm trying to understand
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  here. Balance reduced one 60 pay 50 Bi
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  weekly on this after the payments made on the no pools.
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  Okay. You want to understand
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  everything? Yes.
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  And good luck to you. You did the right thing, at
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  least walking in here. Today, I'm gonna show cause have
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  a good day. Bailey is Bailey in here. was
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  talking about the, What in the world is going on here?
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  I don't know why she didn't. Can you check out the hallway?
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  John and asked her. I'll tell you what, I'm just
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  gonna Is my availability around.
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  She was. I'm gonna just ask, I'm gonna
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  need my, a Bailey in here for this dismissal.
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  Okay, I will thanks. Be ready, Anthony Joseph fiori.
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  She's 306834. Your name sir and just their
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  charged with operating on toxicated, you have advice with
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  attorney. Actually a Charged was super
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  drunk. You have the right to a lawyer
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  if you would like one, I'll be happy to provide you with one of
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  public expense. Do you understand that?
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  Would you like lawyer? oh, we're going to give you a
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  lawyer. This is what Gibraltar.
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  And you'll come back then. All right, go out in the hallway
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  and he'll set you up my Nicole Bailey.
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  Choose 5. G 306372 b. all right, man, your
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  name How are we doing today? Not too bad.
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  All right. So this was taken under a stitch
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  and Gracie, right, hand and son. That's where you're right.
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  You soundly swear from a penalties perjury that the
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  testimony will give in these proceedings.
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  Will be the whole truth. So help you got He came in here
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  with a Minnie Mouse shirt. Yeah.
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  Today's laundry day. You've been in any trouble since
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  you came in here on July 30th. You don't have any other cases
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  to spending. All right.
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  No more of this, okay? You seem like a nice kid don't
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  Dismiss it on motion. The prosecutor here.
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  Why ain't you went through probation and everything's Up to
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  par. Good luck.
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  They are here. Good luck, Kyle Ellis.
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  Kyle Alexander Ellis 25, B 149548, A and B.
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  Warning, your name, I Alice. So you have a cause I filed B.
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  Prefer to show up where you been.
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  Um, so it might show us oh you didn't show up.
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  I'm sorry about your loss but this kick, it was issued in
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  October, he didn't show up October 22nd, show up, November
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  5, and now the calendar says February 26th to 26, you're not
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  going to do this. You're not going to be one of
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  these guys are. You know?
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  I I was just a lot. Yeah, the right to a lawyer he
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  charged with driving. I was just founded and failure
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  to pay an effective equip. I'll be happy to provide you
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  with the lawyer in public expense if you would want you
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  want. Yes.
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  All right. I'm going to go ahead and Give
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  you this. Okay, Arena.
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  This is a Brown phone case. Oh, His his misdemeanor was in
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  warrant status. All right, so just his civil
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  infection was on the docket Chase.
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  So there should I put a sticky note on the front with the date?
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  All right, I got it. I, I see what's going on.
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  I'm sorry, Heather. All right. so used to these
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  showcases, I can get you a lawyer for an arena if you want.
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  Yes. Just Gonna take a while.
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  Or I can arrange you. I'm going to give you a personal
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  Bond. I'll schedule this for four
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  dates and we'll go from there. So you just do that on October
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  one of 25. It is alleged that you did
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  upgrade multiple vehicle suspended license in the
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  township of Brownstown. Specifically.
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  They think you're operating that vehicle on I-75 in the morning.
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  That is missed me interchangeable.
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  By up to 500 finds 90 degree days, jail costs are all those
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  two points. You understand that?
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  Yes. Did you sign an advice to read
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  it and understand it here today? Yes.
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  If you please heal, you'll be giving up all those rights and
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  we're not gonna have a trial. She understand that It's you
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  guys think I'm funny or what are you just laughing?
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  I'm sorry. I'm giving her a hard time
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  about. Making sure.
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  All right, so I'm gonna enter in it.
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  Do you understand all your rights?
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  Yes, sir. You understand the ever plead
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  guilty, you're giving up those rights.
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  Yes, I'm entering an actively 500 dollar personal Bond.
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  You cannot leave the state without the consent of the court
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  or violate a law. You must adhere in court, is
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  directed. I want Heather.
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  Do you have the money to pay the defective?
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  I'll tell you what, I'll just set this for accept this over to
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  house that and I think I'm setting this.
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  For March the 19th at 10:30 right?
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  Heather correct. Judge March the 19th at 10:30.
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  So, you're going to go down the hall.
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  You're going to get your court date.
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  You come back with some money on, March the 19th and cancer,
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  you could take care of that. It's just you move toward and
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  I'm not gonna talk about it. But I have a validation, is it
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  possible when you come back? If you want a lawyer going
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  forward though, you're going to have to fill out a tissue for
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  one. Okay.
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  Yes, you work, yes, we're okay. All right, okay. well, if you
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  want a lawyer and you don't think you can afford one, my
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  court officer will hand you petition and you will You'll
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  fill that out. And then hand it back and go
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  down the home. Get your notice, okay?
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  All right, best of luck. Thank you.
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  You want to? You want to lawyer you?
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  Audrey Lynn mondelli. 25 G. 33064078.
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  The morning is mondelli your name.
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  All right, raise your right hand.
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  You saw me swear from under penalties poetry that's money
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  will give these percentage will be the whole tree.
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  So you've got since you were in court, on July 1725, have you
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  been arrested? And you charges.
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  You don't have any other cases pending yeah, congratulations to
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  your case, dismissed motion of the prosecutor.
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  Best of luck to you. Thank you.
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  We'll send you both the discharges.
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  Thank you. Richard J Godfrey Jonesy.
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  And then there to me, Richard J Godfrey. 250244515 How you doing
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  Mr? Godfrey, how are you?
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  Your Aaron, not bad. It hasn't been that long.
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  Since I've seen your September is it, you had something else in
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  front of me, right? I'm sorry.
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  Didn't you have something else in front of me since September?
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  No, not for tomorrow. Okay, I even seen one of
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  violation or anything. Those are okay.
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  All right, brace, your radiant saw me, swear from a penalties
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  of perjury. That the testimony will give me.
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  She should be the whole true self.
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  You got Oh, I'm sorry. You saw me swear from that.
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  The testimony. You will give these proceedings
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  will be the whole truth. So, help you God?
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  Yes, sir. All right.
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  Since you were in court and I sent you understood and 71.1 on
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  September, 4253 case dismissed, are you doing better?
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  Yes, sir. You're the one that I remember
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  telling didn't wasn't talking about having a problem.
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  He still drinking no, sir. You can stay off at noon.
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  Yes, sir. Good.
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  There's a struggle, but I'm not going back.
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  This is the first time I've been a part of my life.
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  Well, that's probation. Well, that's good.
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  I'm dismissing your case. Congratulations, good luck.
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  We'll see you tonight. Have a great day.
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  Glad you see? Anybody know, we'll send you the
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  discharge paperwork. Thank you.
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  Good morning. Once again everybody TCF live.
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  It's Thursday. It's nice to have you all here
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  bear with me today. If there's a couple little bumps
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  in the road, I made the decision yesterday that we are switching
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  off of stream yard and onto restream.
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  So a new way for the show to come to you and I'm still kind
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  of learning the ropes. It's all laid out a little
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  different count. Three.
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  Yeah, but it's part plate and no proof and sharks and you have
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  the right to lawyer if you want one I will give you one.
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  Otherwise I'm going to go ahead and ring.
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  You you and send you to the prosecutor.
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  So I corrected everything. I mean, it's up to you. you
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  certainly you're you're probably gonna make it okay, but If you
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  want a lawyer, I'll give you one.
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  I'll take a lawyer just in case, okay?
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  Just relax. I'm nervous on my I'm nervous
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  every day here. And I'm just kidding.
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  Just relax. Everything's gonna work out.
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  Okay. Good luck.
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  He'll take you go sit out in the hall.
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  He will take the file out there. Thank you, sir and you'll be set
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  up with a lawyer. Thanks.
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  We're off the Record, right? I'm sorry, I gotta hit people.
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  Pieces of the continues of the other one I had you all right.
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  Yeah, it's just a different email that I was able to locate
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  which he speaks in the museum so just asking for the same
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  information, but all right, well we wait for the next contestant
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  there. Let's stay in Michigan but let's
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  go. Say good morning to judge
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  Oakley. Here.
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  Ah. Oh offer them my client would
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  like to better so too or if we don't know longer right.
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  Okay. Do we care what charge dismiss
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  and which chart we reduce? All right.
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  Miss Burgess. Did you discuss your rights and
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  options with your turn? You understand all rights in the
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  options. They give you do.
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  You understand the possible penalty for the added charge
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  understanding the added charge and your rights and options are
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  you pleading guilty to the charge freely voluntarily today?
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  Mr. Jadal, I've got an incident date of October. 2325 could you
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  voir dire? Feedback about the township over
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  here at that time but in June, make persistent phone calls.
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  Bother your own child. Yes.
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  And yeah, that was you would be intense and that correctly.
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  He satisfied. So am I hooked up The Plea to
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  the attached, just missed, both the original charges.
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  What should I know about the lady?
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  Before I she's another woman at the scene with it.
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  She is currently on her skating mental health law, good where
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  Okay, no name of my there listening.
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  Okay, I'll walk you go on. Good.
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  How long you been gone? Okay, when's baby do?
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  Oh congrats. Good luck.
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  We're glad I'm sorry Council. But our Beginning by the last
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  thing you write a group of Windows because our prosecution
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  and Sport this deal here. She's going to do it and she can
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  to the next three months and because I recognize the one that
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  honor record, she understands to continue to no contact
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  distribution. She will do that.
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  Right. Are you working?
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  Yes. Where were you working at?
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  Okay, how long were you there? Okay.
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  Anything you want to tell me, don't feel that you have to
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  Okay, and I'm assuming no criminal history.
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  I miss Burgess, I will delay sentence for three months during
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  that time period. Stay out of trouble.
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  No, new criminal charges. I'm assessing court cost him off
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  500 dollars. Can you pay that today?
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  Can you set up a payment plan today?
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  And I think there's all a no contact with victims and she
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  just so we're clear. No contact, no contact like no
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  social media. No phone calls.
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  No letter, no Hallmark card. You seem to Taco Bell.
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  You're eating a Burger King. You don't tell your friends to
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  go see how they're doing. Just no contact.
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  All right. Okay, good luck to you.
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  Let's go downstairs and set up something on payments.
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  Julie Smith. Yes, I'm here.
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  Man, can you activate your camera?
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  Yes, one second. You are going forward today
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  without benefit of a court appointed attorney.
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  Is that correct? Yes, sir.
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  All right, good news is the prosecutor wants me to dismiss
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  the charge against you, from December, 14th 2025.
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  I'm assuming that's okay with you.
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  Yes, sir. Have a lovely day you too.
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  Thank you. You are free to leave Irving
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  Andrew Irving. Good morning, sir.
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  Come on. Are you going forward today
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  without benefit of a court appointed attorney.
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  Yes. You've met with the prosecutor
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  says, you're going to plead guilty to an added charge of
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  drove? What license suspended, revoked
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  or denied first offense, is that your deal?
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  You understand the possible penalty for the charge.
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  Understand the possible penalty for that charge.
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  You understand that the Secretary of State's probably
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  going to put two points on your record.
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  All right, and did you read your rights form?
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  Understood those rights. And the options they give you.
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  Understanding all of that. Are you pleading guilty, freely
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  and voluntarily today. So did you drive a vehicle in
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  here on Township? On February?
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  8006 Was your license suspended, revoked, or denied at the time?
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  I'll accept your plea and dismiss the original charge.
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  You're working. Where do you work?
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  How long have you been there? Explaining three years, good.
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  Anything else you want me to consider before I sent you?
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  If your license still suspended, I assume it was emergency.
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  All right. Mr. Irving I think I said this,
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  I dismissed the original charger, was issued to you on.
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  Today's file finds a cost, 500 dollars in four days on the
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  court. Work program work program as a
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  is assessed as an alternative to jail.
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  You pick which four days you want to work.
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  Will give you a schedule. You got to be here each of those
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  days at 8:00 in the morning. Can you pay the 500 today?
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  Go on downstairs. Take care of the money.
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  Get a smile from the cashier and they'll sign you up as well.
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  Good luck to you. You're welcome Danny Strunk.
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  Miss trunk, are you going forward today without benefit of
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  a court appointed attorney? You made a deal with the
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  prosecutor says, you're gonna plead responsible to impeding
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  traffic and they want me to dismiss the misdemeanor.
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  That was issued to you on February 3rd.
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  Is that your deal? All right, I'll accept the plea
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  to the Civil infraction. Find the cost $250.
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  Can you pay that today? All right, go downstairs and
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  make a rangements. Good luck.
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  If we don't get our two 50, the misdemeanors back on for you to
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  deal with understood. Good luck.
• 29:35
  Heather, I screwed that up. I didn't realize there were Oh,
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  it's not a reduced charge. It's just, yeah, she started one
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  of the team. It La Saj.
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  Say it again. Come on.
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  Almost real estate. You're going forward today
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  without an attorney. Is that correct?
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  You've met with the prosecutor. Let's see, we got okay, same
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  deal. You're gonna played responsible
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  to impeding traffic, we're going to dismissal misdemeanor charge,
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  correct. All right.
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  I'll accept your plea to the fraction.
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  Find the cost on that one $180. Can you pay it today?
• 30:46
  Go downstairs and make arrangements.
• 30:48
  And any questions? All right, we'll keep an eye on
• 30:54
  judgment now, but let's head south to Florida.
• 30:57
  Wade, Mercer's, first appearances dads in the
• 30:59
  courtroom near behalf, you're here because you've been accused
• 31:02
  of one, kind of battery on a firefighter or law enforcement
• 31:05
  officer or EMT Mr. Crumpler, I read the complaint.
• 31:09
  There is probable calls. The problem is it appears your
• 31:11
  own probation for three different cases?
• 31:13
  You're still on probation? Right?
• 31:15
  Mr. Yes sir. So, this is not a I don't know
• 31:19
  if the State Defense got a chance to read the complaint.
• 31:21
  He allegedly Hope the badge area of the officer.
• 31:26
  But that technically, if that happened would would fit the
• 31:29
  definition of battery. The problem is, he's on
• 31:31
  probation, Mr. McDaniel. Anything else I need to know
• 31:33
  from the defense or Mr. What are those cases these on probation
• 31:38
  for 22-15? 21-4 39, 21-6 nine, six nine,
• 31:47
  six nine, I'll see if cases Mr. Cromwell set, your bond at
• 31:51
  10,000 dollars cash or Surety, but don't try to post it, your
• 31:54
  family doesn't need to try to post it since he's on probation,
• 31:56
  talking to your dad. Now she's on probation.
• 31:58
  Will do what we normally do. Almost always do.
• 32:00
  That's a seven day hold. So the probation office, has
• 32:03
  seven days to go to judge Garcia and say, Here's the complaint.
• 32:07
  Here's the new arrest judge. You want to show Warren and you
• 32:10
  want to put a bond on it or not and that'll be hardest decision.
• 32:12
  So I'll see you in seven days. Mr. Crumpler, if judge Garcia
• 32:16
  has signed a warrant, we'll see. If she puts a bond on it
• 32:19
  normally. Most of the time, there's no
• 32:21
  bond on warrants that are based upon new felony charges, but if
• 32:25
  she puts a bond on it, and that's it is what it is.
• 32:27
  If there's no warning, seven days, I'll release the VoIP,
• 32:31
  hold, and she be free to post bond.
• 32:33
  That's, that's very rare, but it's possible.
• 32:35
  If your dad has any questions first, you any questions?
• 32:38
  Mr. Crumpler. And at the jail that Mr.
• 32:40
  Krumper. You have any questions sir.
• 32:42
  Those are. All right.
• 32:44
  Wish you the best sir. We'll see you in seven days.
• 32:45
  What was his bond on the new login?
• 32:47
  10,000 10,000 We didn't give him a court date that way, he'll
• 32:54
  make the court, a fable 7th on the battery charge.
• 32:56
  He'll probably make the same for another different chord.
• 32:58
  They want it for the VIP March 3 if they do it.
• 33:01
  So thank you for coming Mr. Trump This court will be April,
• 33:07
  the 7th April. The 7th is when his court date
• 33:11
  will be on the new charge and maybe a day or two of them, but
• 33:17
  we'll know if you come or watch on the seven days now.
• 33:21
  Well, no, the other date then yes, sir.
• 33:24
  Koi, Jennings, Mr. Jennings. Good morning.
• 33:26
  Good morning. You're here for a whole for
• 33:30
  Houston County Alabama. I didn't see you signed.
• 33:33
  He just signed a waiver in here. Mr. McDaniel.
• 33:35
  Yes. Okay.
• 33:37
  So you signed away with your tradition, Mr. Jennings.
• 33:39
  I'm gonna assume you don't have any questions about that waiver
• 33:42
  sir. Okay.
• 33:44
  All right. So, they have 30 days to pick
• 33:45
  you up that 30 days starts today, but like Mr. McDaniel has
• 33:49
  already told you. I reviewed the cases at 15 days,
• 33:51
  if you're still in our jail and 15 days, you come back, the
• 33:54
  first appearance, I'll say Mr. Jailer, tell me what's going on
• 33:56
  with the transport. They'll tell me what they know
• 33:58
  you'll get to hear it. That's pretty unlikely in all
• 34:02
  likelihood. You're going to be in Houston
• 34:03
  County, today's Thursday, maybe this week but more than likely
• 34:08
  the first the next week they're very efficient about getting
• 34:10
  getting their cases picked up any questions.
• 34:12
  Mr. Jennings. George can we reset his local
• 34:15
  charges, the April 7th because I anticipate he's still gonna be
• 34:19
  in Houston County next week. So when is it tell me what it
• 34:24
  is? And what is it set for?
• 34:24
  Now March 13th? Is that doctor already been
• 34:32
  done? Yeah.
• 34:37
  It's a document wasn't printed it would be no problem but the
• 34:41
  documented I'm not really comfortable.
• 34:46
  We're Not Gonna. Answer this question.
• 34:50
  Would you rather him? Wait here, he's already posted
• 34:52
  on here. You want to go ahead and go to
• 34:53
  Alabama, right? So because Alabama, I just I
• 35:00
  mean, yeah. So what I'm gonna do is I'm
• 35:02
  gonna ask the state to notify whoever prosecutor has that
• 35:05
  case. That's okay.
• 35:09
  I'll make a note and make sure that we need to make sure that
• 35:11
  the prosecutor tells the judge and Mr. McDaniel, want to ask
• 35:13
  you to also notify the public defender.
• 35:15
  Make sure the judge is aware of what's happened.
• 35:18
  This judge Garcia knowing her. She's not going to show a
• 35:21
  warrant if she has reasonably. He's still in jail up there but
• 35:23
  I don't have authority to modify an existing docket of hers.
• 35:26
  I'm just not comfortable doing that, but we'll make sure the
• 35:28
  judge knows if you're still in custody.
• 35:31
  Now, if you're not in custody Mr. Jennings.
• 35:32
  If you get up there and post on this, does have a bond on the
• 35:35
  information from Alabama. So if you get up there and post
• 35:38
  bond and you're out, you got to be in that court date.
• 35:40
  Okay, sir. Yes, sir.
• 35:42
  Have a good day sir. Thank you.
• 35:45
  Sir. Is that what kind of alarm is
• 36:01
  that? Y'all need to stop Mr. McDaniel.
• 36:03
  You will Wilson Mr. Wilson. Good morning.
• 36:08
  You're here because you've been accused of one count of
• 36:09
  possession. Drug paraphernalia, Mr. Wilson
• 36:12
  There is probable. Cause for the charge, I'm going
• 36:14
  to point the public. Sinners office, represent you
• 36:16
  and ask that you listen to your attorney, Mr. McDaniel.
• 36:18
  He's going to 90 days in county, jail, 3855 Mr. Mitchell's at a
• 36:33
  river with the state it is your honor. 385 it's A drug-related
• 36:38
  offense and just gotta you have to add 15 dollars under that.
• 36:41
  Statute Mr. Wilson, did you hear that agreement sir?
• 36:43
  Oh yes sir, Mr. Wilson is that to play?
• 36:46
  You would like to enter sir? Yes sir, I'm accept your plead.
• 36:50
  No contest to enter the charge of possessions drug.
• 36:52
  Paraphernalia judge agility sentence, you to 90 days in jail
• 36:55
  credit for one day. You've already served order
• 36:57
  court costs and finds a 385 Mr. Wilson, you may know this you
• 37:01
  probably do but under Florida law, you very well may get some
• 37:05
  additional game time, so I want to encourage you to check into
• 37:07
  that. The trustee program, you can cut
• 37:09
  that sentence down quite a bit. No probation.
• 37:12
  In this sentence, you finish the jail sentence.
• 37:13
  This is all behind you, Mr. Wilson any questions, those are
• 37:17
  wish you the best sir. Yes, sir.
• 37:24
  My list goes anything else in the first?
• 37:31
  Couple anything else from the jail?
• 37:32
  No sir. And Mr. Mitchell from the state
• 37:35
  for first appearances, know you're so just for I know Mr.
• 37:39
  Mike Daniels, not involved but we have a bench trial scheduled
• 37:41
  at 9 a.m. all right. So Legend that's going to
• 37:45
  conclude first appearance. Do we do have All right, he's
• 37:48
  got a bench trial coming. I will keep an eye out for that
• 37:51
  and hopefully it works better than it did yesterday.
• 37:55
  In the meantime, back up to Michigan a certain judge Simpson
• 37:59
  is on the bench importantly. Also the public defender did not
• 38:03
  believe that any such conflict existing this waiver and people
• 38:05
  fall down. Okay.
• 38:08
  Good morning around here, Joy games, senior assistant, public
• 38:10
  defender. You know, we too do not believe
• 38:13
  that there is, but if there is a conflict with way the same,
• 38:16
  thank you, the court. Also does not believe this
• 38:18
  conflict. Either an admission core world
• 38:20
  or the case is decided there under the extent of like does
• 38:23
  exist giving away waivers Court Will consent to hear the manners
• 38:26
  Court does call The Case of the people and state of Michigan
• 38:29
  versus Ryan Milligan. He?
• 38:37
  Gains seniors system public defender, representing the
• 38:40
  military. and, Got it. Okay, Mr. Ellen, can you state
• 38:54
  your name, please? All right, Joseph Milligan.
• 38:57
  Thank you, sir. Yeah, we are in ongoing
• 39:01
  discussions. I would ask for an adjournment.
• 39:07
  With regard to Mr. Milligan a German for them.
• 39:15
  Yeah. because conference will be adjourned to 26 too far out for,
• 39:24
  you know, that's good, that'll work to March 26th 2026 9 a.m.
• 39:32
  Bond will continue. Thank you.
• 39:34
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 39:36
  I'll be in touch with stability. I'm sorry.
• 39:46
  Yes, because I'm still talking to the prosecutor, trying to get
• 39:48
  the outcome that we talked about.
• 39:51
  Okay, thank you. Thank you.
• 39:56
  Cork does go case of the people versus Jacobson's.
• 40:11
  Gentleman. Oh, Good morning your honor, my
• 40:30
  apologize Robert ellman with it on behalf of Mr. Simpsons, can
• 40:34
  you state your name? Please sir.
• 40:36
  Jacob Samuel Sims. Thank you.
• 40:40
  Your honor at this time we'd like to set this matter for
• 40:43
  exam. I'm not sure of the timing of
• 40:48
  that as Mr. Tim's is currently in the Genesee County Jail.
• 40:53
  And I am not sure if his potential release date.
• 40:58
  You do you have a release date Mr. Simms there on?
• 41:03
  No, I know that since I was in custody, I missed the court
• 41:07
  date, uh, with you all. And it said a bench warrant.
• 41:12
  And since I would have been on a red, There hoping that I can hop
• 41:18
  possibly, get rid of this bench warrant for I can get released
• 41:21
  on my next court hearing here. He got it.
• 41:25
  All right. What else I'll do is I'll cancel
• 41:34
  The bench warrant. that we've issued in this case, And
• 41:39
  Discovery is complete. Yes, sir.
• 41:43
  And I guess, Do you think? And you just guessing, but if
• 41:53
  the bench warrant here is canceled, you can you can You
• 41:57
  get out of Genesee County. I should be, I don't know yet my
• 42:03
  next court date, but instead of me having that writ, it would
• 42:07
  have more likely of a chance to get out because they said, the
• 42:11
  reason why I didn't get out is because of the penny case, I'm
• 42:14
  watching all with that bench warrant.
• 42:18
  And here I would have jail credits.
• 42:33
  What I'll do. Let's do it this way.
• 42:35
  Give some time out see where it is a set.
• 42:40
  If people will have their Witnesses available to 17.
• 42:43
  Yeah. All right, so set preliminary
• 42:47
  examination. In-person Mark, 17 2026. 9 a.m.
• 42:52
  before judge judge bar. Thank you.
• 42:57
  Thank you. Thank you.
• 43:04
  Because of the people versus Michael Ricks. morning honors
• 43:11
  Assistant Attorney General, Chris Williams on behalf of the
• 43:13
  people, good morning. Good morning.
• 43:28
  You're on requesting permission to practice for.
• 43:31
  So in Michigan Court rule, 8.120 under the supervision of
• 43:35
  attorney Stephanie Cannon. Permission to practice is great,
• 43:39
  if you are. Your name, Sir, Michael Ricks.
• 43:43
  Thank you. Yes, sir.
• 43:45
  Broader, we would like to waive. He's gonna wave his preliminary
• 43:52
  examination. Yes, he is.
• 43:53
  Oh sure. Is that a correct statement?
• 43:55
  Yes, sir. You understand that?
• 43:57
  That's a proceeding where the people would have to show by
• 44:00
  probable cause that the offenses alleged were committed and that
• 44:02
  you committed. Yes.
• 44:03
  Sir. You understand?
• 44:04
  You will not have that hearing and you'll perceive the circuit
• 44:07
  court for the resolution. Yes, sir, people also waive
• 44:10
  their right. Yes, sir.
• 44:12
  Luminary examination. Having been waiting around over
• 44:15
  circuit court on both counts. I understand. and in every way
• 44:26
  for reading standing mute Court Orlando, 2026 1, 3, 0.
• 44:38
  Argument. Do what a bond argument.
• 44:45
  You're gonna do a bond argument. Okay, go ahead.
• 44:49
  I'm all ears. But Stephanie was supposed to
• 44:55
  help me with. That was where are you?
• 44:59
  It. So you just left her up here.
• 45:03
  No, you're not. You're just trying to enjoy your
• 45:07
  coffee. She?
• 45:12
  I might, you know what? Janet.
• 45:19
  Thank you, your honor. Um in this case my client is
• 45:22
  currently working. We were waving over to take the
• 45:26
  the page agreement as offered my client does.
• 45:29
  All I think it was 2022000 at this point.
• 45:34
  The problem is that low and actually effectively under the
• 45:39
  25% And you're on. What is this?
• 45:43
  Current bottom, sorry. Is 5,680 four dollars.
• 45:47
  The problem is, he is the Soul Provider in the household.
• 45:54
  So his, the his current household, your honor, not the
• 46:00
  one where heels the obligation, um, he was reporting that
• 46:03
  household, but not these kids, you have to talk to my client
• 46:06
  about what was happening there. And there's there is a period He
• 46:11
  just was a bit Indigent, he was incarcerated, he gets out.
• 46:14
  The child, support starts immediately, he struggling he
• 46:19
  has a job. Now, he's perfectly willing to
• 46:21
  to pay the problem. He has is if you lose the job
• 46:25
  that he just, he's hearing definitely.
• 46:27
  So he's been told that the job is still open to him but he is
• 46:31
  just he's the only one working so there he can't pay 5000 to
• 46:34
  get out. He'll just be there for
• 46:38
  Basically, until the court is inclined until somebody thinks
• 46:43
  like to let him out. He My client is asking if he
• 46:48
  could be released, he doesn't want to lose to job, he is fine
• 46:51
  with, even if there is a attached to your check.
• 46:55
  For automatically. He's fine with allowing a
• 47:00
  garnishment on the check or however they want to do it.
• 47:03
  It's just So for him, it's Luke at this point, if he loses the
• 47:07
  job, he can't even meet the obligations.
• 47:09
  That the Attorney General is asking for he's not, I don't
• 47:15
  know what that resolution would be, but I think it's probably
• 47:18
  best take care of in front of Judge cookie.
• 47:22
  Yes, it's set for the 10th. I don't need a response from the
• 47:26
  people most of the bond, reductions denied Bond, will
• 47:29
  continue to touch. And thank you.
• 47:33
  Is that it? Does call The Case of the people
• 47:41
  cases of people versus diamond buyers.
• 47:53
  Thank you. Gonna rescue for the German
• 47:56
  today, there are two other matters that got sworn to and
• 48:00
  she needs to be rained on that. I'll happen this week, that's
• 48:04
  why we had been a journey. So I got three cases here but
• 48:07
  there are two more than the pipeline in the same events.
• 48:13
  So she getting rained on those today.
• 48:15
  We're looking to try and get her a rain contact, the magistrate
• 48:18
  to get it. Signed That objection, all
• 48:23
  you're in trouble cause conference in these matters to
• 48:25
  March 20th. 26, excuse me. That's 269 a.m. on continued.
• 48:34
  That way we can do that. I would suggest that At the
• 48:39
  point of arraignment, let the magistrate know that the state
• 48:42
  its data set so we can set everything together.
• 48:45
  Thank you. All right, thank you.
• 48:47
  Continue. the case of the people versus Matthew Kennedy, It was
• 49:03
  murder. Somebody approaching.
• 49:10
  Your name, sir. Thank you.
• 49:11
  You're on a river crossing and a German matter.
• 49:14
  Um, the court signed an order of placement in a substance abuse
• 49:18
  program. We're just waiting for a bed
• 49:20
  space for him. He's in the process of handling.
• 49:22
  All right these the only things he's held on, that's correct.
• 49:30
  I would normally set to out. You want to 19th or we close to
• 49:34
  a bad I guess, I don't know that.
• 49:36
  I don't, I love my pay radio. So set it for March 19th.
• 49:42
  That's fine. 269 a.m. right. Thank you, sir.
• 49:49
  Okay. So, the people versus Deshawn
• 49:56
  Jones. Somebody happened to Sean Jones.
• 50:08
  I'm sure, thank you in this manner.
• 50:11
  I'm asking for in a German, we have, some mitigation
• 50:14
  information. I need to get over to the
• 50:15
  prosecutor additional, lovely negotiation.
• 50:18
  So I'd ask for Another piece. Probably said March 26th. 2026
• 50:27
  90. Thank you.
• 50:34
  Because people versus data Halo. Yes, Brandenburg on behalf of
• 50:43
  Jada house. Thank you.
• 51:01
  Um, yes January, we're requesting an adjournment in
• 51:06
  this matter. And Conference will be adjourned
• 51:12
  to March 12th. 2026 9 a.m. bound continued.
• 51:21
  Thank you. Our Union, honorable have a
• 51:23
  great day. You do the same.
• 51:26
  All right, because case of the people versus Christina is an
• 51:31
  anchored. Games, senior assistant, public
• 51:47
  defender representing Ms eichert.
• 51:50
  I did not realize I could you state your name please
• 51:53
  Christina's. Thank you.
• 52:00
  We had a we talked yesterday and she wishes to waive the
• 52:09
  pulmonary examination. She does.
• 52:11
  Yes. Is that correct man that you
• 52:15
  want to waive your right to a preliminary examination?
• 52:16
  Yes, sir. You understand that that's a
• 52:21
  proceeding where the people would have to show.
• 52:23
  By the standard or probable cause that the offence related,
• 52:26
  the offensive, alleged was committed in that you committed
• 52:28
  it. Correct, sir.
• 52:31
  You understand, you will not have that hearing and that
• 52:34
  you'll proceed to Circuit Court for further resolution.
• 52:37
  Correct, sir. All right, people also waved it,
• 52:41
  right. Preliminary examination having
• 52:43
  been weighed defendants bound over to Circuit Court on a
• 52:45
  single count this game. You know, we acknowledge we see
• 52:48
  the information wave, it's reading on the record.
• 52:51
  This time. On her behalf.
• 52:56
  Been in every way from a reading, standing mute Cortlandt
• 53:00
  guilty. Plea, prey trials, we'll be set
• 53:02
  for March 11th, 2026 130 before James cattle.
• 53:13
  Found will continue. Thank you.
• 53:19
  That's called a case of people versus Norman Johnson.
• 53:27
  Was not be happening. Mr. Johnson.
• 53:34
  Your name sir, Norman Johnson? All right.
• 53:36
  He's waving Know, you're on Earth.
• 53:39
  That's that's for the other one. That was like I'm sure asking to
• 53:48
  move forward to preliminary Examiner. you have all
• 53:54
  discovered yes, your honour What date are we on?
• 53:57
  The People have their Witnesses available to 10. preliminary
• 54:04
  examination in person March 10th 2026 9 a.m. before judge Judge
• 54:11
  judge Garwood. Bond will continue.
• 54:15
  Thank you. For girls, case into people
• 54:21
  versus Kate and Davidson. Good morning Davidson who's
• 54:31
  appearing. Via Davidson, can you state your
• 54:33
  name? Please Katelyn Davidson Thank
• 54:36
  you. You're asking for a journey,
• 54:38
  right? That's correct.
• 54:40
  It's probable cause conference will be adjourned March 19th.
• 54:45
  2026, 9 a.m. bond continues. Thank you.
• 54:51
  Okay folks. Good morning once again, TCF.
• 54:54
  Live, good to have you all here tonight. 8 p.m.
• 54:57
  Eastern 5 p.m. Pacific.
• 54:58
  You need to be right here on this channel for sidebar because
• 55:01
  it is your own adventure night on sidebar, the chat will
• 55:05
  determine what the panel talks about, so be sure to join us
• 55:09
  right here on TCF 8 p.m. Eastern 5 p.m.
• 55:12
  Pacific know. I haven't scheduled it yet but I
• 55:15
  will do that after the show. So you will, you will see it
• 55:17
  there after the fact votes are in, we want to watch Judge
• 55:21
  Mercer. So let's go down to Florida.
• 55:25
  In case 25 that's 464 mm that right case number gentlemen,
• 55:29
  yes, we're here for a bench hearing.
• 55:32
  We have Miss barfoot press along with her turning Mr. West at we
• 55:37
  all so have the prosecutor Mr. Mitchell and Miss Harris was
• 55:40
  slight attorney's office. So gentlemen, the first thing I
• 55:43
  need to an issue isn't in a totally separate case and I
• 55:46
  don't want to make sure we're all on the same page.
• 55:48
  In this case, this is the first degree misdemeanor.
• 55:50
  The parties have a great to a bench, trial court looked at
• 55:53
  Miss Bartlett's history, which is little to nothing and agreed
• 55:56
  that, if there if there, if the court found this barfoot guilty,
• 56:01
  That the most, the court could do was put on probation and
• 56:03
  withhold of adjudication and grill a guilt.
• 56:05
  Yes. Agreed the issue that's come up
• 56:08
  in another case is another defense attorneys.
• 56:11
  Take the position that Even in the event of a violation of
• 56:14
  probation, his client cannot be incarcerated.
• 56:17
  Now, it's a different different. There wasn't agreed bench trial,
• 56:21
  in that case. So it's a little different
• 56:22
  posture. I want to make sure we're on the
• 56:24
  same page, if I find her guilty, which is the first if it hasn't
• 56:27
  happened, but if that happens and if she gets probation she
• 56:31
  could just get a fine possibly, but if she gets probation, and
• 56:33
  if she violates to, we all agree that in that event, a jail time,
• 56:37
  could be potentially possible. If all those things happen.
• 56:40
  Is that your understanding Mr. Mitchell, that's my
• 56:42
  understanding agree with you. Thank you.
• 57:01
  And I don't based upon her. How things have been going last
• 57:06
  couple months or zero complaints.
• 57:08
  How much better to Violet probation is.
• 57:09
  She's been found guilty. She may not be, I don't know.
• 57:12
  Okay. So next let me make sure we're
• 57:14
  going under the same charging document, your own kind of.
• 57:17
  Go ahead and invoke the rule at this point in time.
• 57:19
  Absolutely sure don't have any Witnesses present in the
• 57:22
  courtroom. Mr. Mitchell yes, the Thornton
• 57:23
  and Sergeant Hollis. Miss Norton and Sergeant Hollis
• 57:26
  Mr. Sergeant Hollis has heard this role many times as I have
• 57:28
  Mr. Thornton, there's a rule of sequestration of witnesses being
• 57:31
  invoked. What that rule says is between
• 57:33
  now and the completion of the case, you can't talk to any
• 57:35
  other Witnesses about the substance of your testimony.
• 57:38
  You're not allowed to hear other parts of the trial other than
• 57:41
  your own testimony. So the state attorney's office
• 57:43
  will have a room for you to wait in.
• 57:44
  And when Mr, Mitchell gets ready to call you, or whichever side
• 57:47
  is going to call you, call you as a witness, you'll be probably
• 57:50
  in get a chance to testify and be free to leave.
• 57:52
  Just don't talk other Witnesses about the substance of your
• 57:55
  testimony between now and the completion of the case.
• 57:57
  Okay, thank you. So let's let's make sure we're
• 58:17
  on the right. Charging document because
• 58:18
  there's three information filed and my understanding is the one
• 58:22
  we're proceeding under the state wants to proceed under is the
• 58:24
  second. I mean an information and it's
• 58:26
  Two of my problem. The same day.
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  This one is filed. February 25th, timestamp, 422.16
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  PM. Is that the one you're going
• 58:33
  under Mr. Mitchell. That's when you're expecting to
• 58:36
  Mr. Jackson, I'm actually gonna object to that this is filed
• 58:39
  late yesterday. I've been prepping on the
• 58:41
  information that was filed on February the 13th.
• 58:45
  Obviously I was in a jury trial yesterday up until around 9:00
• 58:49
  and you know with this late filing and let's take a look and
• 58:54
  see what the difference is are I have no idea.
• 58:56
  I believe it will are different as well as the actual statutory
• 59:03
  number that they're going on under Okay, let me get my case.
• 59:10
  Pulled back up here. So you the one you're going on
• 59:14
  is not the second one, but the first one that's cool but I was
• 59:18
  going on under the original information.
• 59:20
  There was a first been an information in a second
• 59:22
  amendment information, okay? That's why we're having this
• 59:26
  conversation to make sure we're on the same page.
• 59:28
  Let me print out the first one so we can compare them.
• 59:32
  There's the first one. Which is dated February 13th.
• 59:37
  Print that out. okay, so the first one, First information in
• 59:52
  this case was different dates. It says, owner about May 1st.
• 59:58
  and the The other difference. You said is that actually
• 1:00:01
  changes the statute? Yes, your honor.
• 1:00:03
  I believe it's under 741.314, a 1 and then the statute that the
• 1:00:12
  cases actually going under at this point in time, or from what
• 1:00:16
  states? Second information States is
• 1:00:19
  784.0. The state actually changed the
• 1:00:22
  charge, yesterday, totally changed the charge.
• 1:00:26
  Eventually, that is correct your honor.
• 1:00:27
  I noticed that there was a it was implicated wrong in our
• 1:00:32
  system and the information was filed along with the original
• 1:00:35
  dates. So that's why I made the proper
• 1:00:37
  changes that came to the proper date and how it matches the
• 1:00:43
  injunction. My next question, would normally
• 1:00:52
  be where you're outside? The speedy trial date when you
• 1:00:54
  change the charge, but I don't know that that really has any
• 1:00:57
  significance anymore. But it may.
• 1:01:02
  Depending upon when the speedy trial rule changed. and whether
• 1:01:06
  it was, Retroactive or not. I think the speedy trial chain
• 1:01:16
  rule change, July 1st. Yeah, did Exactly, right.
• 1:01:29
  You think they are? I was gonna say that the
• 1:01:34
  complaint was not filed until later in July, I believe.
• 1:01:37
  So procedurally, we would be working under the new rule, It's
• 1:01:43
  really interesting. So it's an incident that
• 1:01:45
  allegedly began. When the old rules in effect.
• 1:01:50
  But it what the complaint wasn't done.
• 1:01:52
  Until after the new rule was an effect charges were filed after
• 1:01:54
  the new rules. In fact, and the new rule
• 1:01:56
  doesn't abolish PD trial, but it certainly Diminishes it
• 1:02:00
  significantly. Distracts.
• 1:02:02
  And Honor we did participate in Discovery.
• 1:02:08
  In this case we did take that positions so we've got this
• 1:02:12
  question for I'm not gonna let them in the trial.
• 1:02:14
  I'm in the charts the day before trial and force you to go
• 1:02:18
  forward with a trial. And force your client to go
• 1:02:21
  forward with the trial. First of all, it's It's not a
• 1:02:27
  very good explanation for why you're gonna change the trout,
• 1:02:29
  charge the day before court, some of the state attorney's
• 1:02:30
  office should look at this long ago from this in this
• 1:02:32
  personally, happening in May, or June, or July, depending on
• 1:02:34
  which court, they which information you're looking at.
• 1:02:37
  So doing it day before court. Is not acceptable.
• 1:02:40
  The real question is, is your clients if you were just
• 1:02:45
  changing a date, that's what the case law says that look at is
• 1:02:48
  their price if you're just changing the date. it's one of
• 1:02:51
  analysis, but changing the actual statute that you're
• 1:02:53
  charged with is certainly prejudicial So therefore since
• 1:02:57
  it's practitioner the question arises, is there a speedy trial
• 1:03:00
  rule? I don't think there is but you
• 1:03:02
  haven't had a chance to research obviously so that leads us to
• 1:03:05
  whether or not you want to continue once I don't want to
• 1:03:09
  continue so I just rather go under the original information,
• 1:03:11
  I think if we go into that and okay I think the state has the
• 1:03:16
  right to amend the charge as long as they're not violating
• 1:03:20
  speedy trial rules. So I think they have the right
• 1:03:22
  to do that. They just don't have the right
• 1:03:23
  to compel you to go forward to trial with such short.
• 1:03:27
  Notice his hairs. If you take on that the same, do
• 1:03:31
  you do you agree that? Yeah.
• 1:03:33
  Yes you're honored that you have the right to make the charge
• 1:03:36
  change in the first information was not filed until early this
• 1:03:41
  month. So that is when speedy trial
• 1:03:43
  would under the current role that's when speedy trial would
• 1:03:46
  have began. So since we trial hasn't run, I
• 1:03:48
  think they've got the right to make the change.
• 1:03:50
  I just don't think that since this it's overly prejudicial,
• 1:03:55
  They don't have the right to compare to go to trial today.
• 1:03:57
  Six years on a charge, they filed yesterday.
• 1:03:59
  All right, that's fine. I would actually make a or
• 1:04:03
  tennis motion for a statement of particulars in the Second
• 1:04:07
  Amendment information. It says honor about June 28th
• 1:04:10
  through July 27th 2025. I have no idea what specific
• 1:04:15
  date they're talking about here, it sounds like the way they've
• 1:04:18
  got my client charged, they need to be hey it's going to be on
• 1:04:22
  this day at this time and this is gonna happen.
• 1:04:25
  Yeah. In the in the complaint there
• 1:04:29
  are multiple dates listed. I reviewed the complaint before
• 1:04:32
  court today. And the complaint list dates
• 1:04:36
  from. Nice 7th as date of the issue of
• 1:04:42
  the Warren and the complaints starts around.
• 1:04:44
  May 22nd. That's when the dates start and
• 1:04:49
  they go through mid Late, July yes, July 26th.
• 1:04:54
  So you don't notice, you certainly may be in
• 1:04:57
  Charlottesville statement in particular.
• 1:04:58
  I believe the rule on statement particulars requires to be filed
• 1:05:01
  in writing. Not sure about that.
• 1:05:02
  So here's where I'm going to do. I have no problem at all,
• 1:05:07
  despite not wanting to do this, having no problem In fairness,
• 1:05:11
  inequity giving your client, a chance, a continuance
• 1:05:16
  Regardless, whether the state objection or not.
• 1:05:18
  Understand, you're here. You're ready to go to trial.
• 1:05:19
  She wants this over. I understand that, but she has
• 1:05:22
  the right to have our client prepared and it's not fair to
• 1:05:24
  you to force you to go to trial on the new charge, not going to
• 1:05:27
  do that. I also have an erotic, you want
• 1:05:30
  to talk to her and say, Here's the pros and cons.
• 1:05:32
  We're all here Witnesses are here so forth.
• 1:05:34
  You want to go ahead and talk to her private.
• 1:05:36
  We're going to make that happen but I think the state has a
• 1:05:39
  right to make this change unless you can unless there's some
• 1:05:42
  argument that speedy trial prevents them from doing that
• 1:05:44
  and I don't think Speedy Trump prevents Down based upon that's
• 1:05:48
  preliminary analysis which like to talk to your client.
• 1:05:50
  Private Mr. X and if I could you're on, and let's get this
• 1:05:53
  necessary. I think this room over here and
• 1:05:56
  Gary, make sure they can get back in.
• 1:05:58
  If we do use this room over here because I think that door made
• 1:06:01
  love It and take your time, Ms racks and it's fresh on fires.
• 1:06:21
  Okay, well, this may or may not move forward, so I'll keep an
• 1:06:25
  eye on that in the meantime, let's go back to Michigan and
• 1:06:27
  judgment now. And I'll keep you updated on
• 1:06:29
  this. Founded in speeding.
• 1:06:32
  You have the right to an attorney.
• 1:06:33
  If you want one, I will provide you with one.
• 1:06:35
  Would you like a lawyer? Okay, I'll go ahead and arrange
• 1:06:39
  you. Then I'm gonna send you the
• 1:06:41
  prosecutor. There's a large on February.
• 1:06:43
  The second 26 that you did operate a motor vehicle in the
• 1:06:47
  city of Trenton County of Wayne. At approximately 7:07 a.m. on
• 1:06:53
  fortnite. That is a misdemeanor driving on
• 1:06:56
  a suspended punishable that the 500.
• 1:06:58
  Fine, 93 days. Jill costs are all those in two
• 1:07:01
  points. Do you understand that?
• 1:07:03
  You got to keep your voice up. Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 1:07:05
  That's all right. You all should have a speeding
• 1:07:07
  charge. It six to 10 over.
• 1:07:09
  That would be two points. Do you want to understand that
• 1:07:11
  which you don't get the higher? The two point tools.
• 1:07:14
  If you're convicted of both, it'll be two points.
• 1:07:16
  Not four. Do you understand that?
• 1:07:18
  Did you sign read and understand the advice of Rights?
• 1:07:22
  Yes, sir. If you plead guilty, you will be
• 1:07:24
  giving up all those rights and we're not going to have a
• 1:07:26
  trials. You understand that?
• 1:07:27
  Yes sir. All right, I'll never not guilty
• 1:07:29
  clear you still wish to waive your right to a lawyer.
• 1:07:35
  I'll say I don't like both of them.
• 1:07:38
  It's my first time. I don't think you're gonna go to
• 1:07:40
  jail, but I'll be glad not the first time for this fine.
• 1:07:44
  You want a lawyer now. Is that what you want?
• 1:07:49
  Okay, you're gonna have to apologize. 500 dollar, personal
• 1:07:52
  Bond. You cannot leave the state
• 1:07:54
  without the consent of the quarter.
• 1:07:56
  Violate a law. You must appear in court as
• 1:07:59
  directed 500 other personal, you don't have to post any money,
• 1:08:02
  but those are your bond conditions.
• 1:08:04
  So, okay. And you go out in the hall, he's
• 1:08:08
  gonna bring the file out. He's going to set that
• 1:08:10
  prosecutor and we will go from there.
• 1:08:13
  Any questions? Yes, sir.
• 1:08:15
  Oh, Your lawyer. We're going to put you a lawyer.
• 1:08:25
  so you're going to go out on my court officers, going to give
• 1:08:28
  the file to the lawyer, the lawyer will call you when to
• 1:08:30
  talk to you, I don't know who we had on the tripod today but Um,
• 1:08:36
  then the lawyer will go in and negotiate for you with the
• 1:08:39
  prosecutor. And then you come back out here
• 1:08:41
  either way. You're coming back into court
• 1:08:44
  with your lawyer before you leave to Do you understand all
• 1:08:48
  that with that? If I clarified things like that,
• 1:08:53
  all right, you can go right out in the hallway and we will see
• 1:08:56
  you back here. Good luck.
• 1:09:13
  My guest today. He doesn't get out of us, that's
• 1:09:26
  why my kids. He's saying like Bobby Hill
• 1:09:30
  University. Yeah.
• 1:09:59
  What's your name, sir? Joshua did you check in with my
• 1:10:03
  court officer? If?
• 1:10:08
  You have him on the docket suzuko?
• 1:10:10
  Yeah I also probably someone has do you have a lawyer know?
• 1:10:18
  Excuse. So you checked in with my court
• 1:10:25
  officer here. Oh you did.
• 1:10:28
  Okay. Is that is your case from
• 1:10:30
  Trenton or Gibraltar? Good.
• 1:10:34
  We'll bring the file in and I'll get shot here.
• 1:10:36
  Okay. All right, friends.
• 1:10:39
  Let's go back to Wade. Mercer's Court in Florida.
• 1:10:43
  It looks like they're coming back in.
• 1:10:44
  Let's see if they're gonna move forward.
• 1:10:47
  In the courtroom and attractions had a chance to speak with Miss
• 1:10:49
  morphed, in private, and distract him.
• 1:10:51
  Tell me what you do. Sir.
• 1:10:53
  All right, I've had extensive contact with my client.
• 1:10:55
  Regarding the issue of continuing and the possibilities
• 1:10:58
  of the outcome of today's hearing and she's very good in
• 1:11:04
  any Other than the objections you've already made which you've
• 1:11:08
  asked for a statement of particulars and I'm willing to
• 1:11:10
  grant that potentially, but I can't do it today and I've also
• 1:11:15
  offered a continuance and In fairness, but in a lot of
• 1:11:19
  everyone being here and the similarities between the current
• 1:11:21
  charge and the prior charge, you want to go and go forward.
• 1:11:23
  I do want to go ahead and go forward, although I'm not even
• 1:11:26
  if I understand the statement of particulars, I think that I can
• 1:11:29
  make the proper objections in order to remedy that situation.
• 1:11:33
  So, I think fair enough. All right, so given that, we'll
• 1:11:37
  go ahead and go forward Mr. Mitchell, I'll ask your office.
• 1:11:39
  Don't do this anymore. There's the day before here when
• 1:11:43
  you know that Mr. Action was in trial because you told me that
• 1:11:45
  he was going to be in trouble. So it's just this just know.
• 1:11:49
  I should be looking at your cases early one step for bench
• 1:11:52
  trial when this was set for bench trial.
• 1:11:55
  Two weeks ago, the state should have looked at the file and
• 1:11:58
  said, okay, do we have her charge?
• 1:11:59
  Like we want our charge and if not and fix it, but given Ms
• 1:12:03
  tracks. And his position will go
• 1:12:04
  forward. And you want to short opening
• 1:12:06
  statement Mr. Mitchell or would you like move straight to
• 1:12:09
  testimony? Just just basically on the
• 1:12:14
  court. What to expect today.
• 1:12:17
  You know, state is intending on offering a copy of the
• 1:12:22
  injunction. That was issued on 5725 for the
• 1:12:25
  benefit of Elizabeth Norton. You'll hear testimony from Ms.
• 1:12:29
  Norton about, you know, what led her to petition for these
• 1:12:33
  injunctions? She's going to tell you how.
• 1:12:35
  Even after the injunction was issued, The harassment as she
• 1:12:41
  will call it then stop it got to a point where at the advice of
• 1:12:46
  Sergeant Quinton Hollis that's needs Police Department.
• 1:12:48
  She started documenting moments of her days in which she felt
• 1:12:52
  like, She was being harassed, or there were moments in which she
• 1:12:55
  thought that the injunction was being violated.
• 1:12:58
  We're mainly going to focus on a period of one month in which,
• 1:13:05
  according to the testimony from Miss Norton, Marlin bar foot
• 1:13:09
  contacted her directly or indirectly to statements in
• 1:13:13
  which both in which Miss Norton will testify to hearing and one
• 1:13:19
  in which she actually documented one of these statements that I
• 1:13:23
  just mentioned, was captured on our cell phone video, which was
• 1:13:26
  recorded by Ms Northern herself. And finally, we'll introduce
• 1:13:28
  testimony and videos of a spotlight that was placed on the
• 1:13:34
  property of, missed barfoots. That's facing a direction of Mr.
• 1:13:39
  Thornton's residence. Which we anticipate will further
• 1:13:42
  go to show that this was intentional contact on behalf of
• 1:13:48
  Miss barfoot and leading to the state proven his case, Beyond a
• 1:13:53
  reasonable doubt. That Miss barfoot, did Willie
• 1:13:57
  contact otherwise indirectly or directly.
• 1:13:59
  Miss Norton. After having been issued a an
• 1:14:03
  injunction that thank you. Thank you Mr. Action.
• 1:14:06
  Short opening statement. John, I'll just witness Mr.
• 1:14:10
  Mitchell, our state will call Elizabeth Norton to the stand.
• 1:14:47
  The storm. Good morning.
• 1:14:48
  I'm gonna ask Ms, Williams. Our Deputy attorney to place sun
• 1:14:50
  or other than, we'll get you to have a seat mount.
• 1:15:02
  This Storm come on around and have a seat.
• 1:15:03
  Take your time. When you get that chair, just
• 1:15:06
  make yourself comfortable. And Mr. Mitchell prosecutor will
• 1:15:14
  ask you questions first? Mr. Mitchell make sure she gets
• 1:15:19
  that Mike adjusted properly. Good morning.
• 1:15:24
  Can you introduce yourself to the court?
• 1:15:27
  My name is Elizabeth Jones, Norton, and Miss Norton.
• 1:15:31
  Are you currently employed anywhere?
• 1:15:34
  No, I'm retired discipled. All right.
• 1:15:38
  What is your current? Residence?
• 1:15:41
  Anyone 83, Pope Street in Sneads, this needs Florida.
• 1:15:47
  Correct. Which is in Jackson County,
• 1:15:49
  Florida. Yes.
• 1:15:51
  And how long have you lived at that address?
• 1:15:54
  Think about 13 years. You were that area.
• 1:15:58
  I apologize. Interrupt.
• 1:16:01
  You said 13 years, I think. So.
• 1:16:03
  Do you rent or own that address? Know, Mr. Norton, do you know an
• 1:16:10
  individual by the name of Marlene barfoot?
• 1:16:12
  Yes. How do you know?
• 1:16:15
  Ms. Barfoot. She's my neighbor.
• 1:16:18
  How long have you known her? Probably about.
• 1:16:26
  Since maybe 29, 29 19. How long has she been?
• 1:16:32
  How long have you two been Neighbors?
• 1:16:37
  Seven years. So her because she moved next
• 1:16:42
  door to me. So you said she lives next door
• 1:16:48
  to you? Yes.
• 1:16:50
  Do you know if anyone else lives with her next door?
• 1:16:55
  And, and her mother. so, Can you describe your relationship with
• 1:17:04
  Miss barfoot? Have you always been on good
• 1:17:09
  terms with her? Okay.
• 1:17:13
  Um I've been a few questionable things happen, but for the most
• 1:17:19
  part we You know, just regular Neighbors.
• 1:17:25
  Have there been any issues between you two?
• 1:17:30
  Um, in March, we had an issue, a big thing happen.
• 1:17:45
  What was, what was the issue in March?
• 1:17:48
  And I assume you're talking to March 2025, right?
• 1:17:51
  What was the issue that happened in March of 2025?
• 1:17:56
  I think it was around the 20th of March. um, she came out to
• 1:18:06
  the I was outside cutting a little strip of grass, and she
• 1:18:12
  came outside and said that. Motion for me to come over to
• 1:18:21
  the fence and I have a chain link fence, separates our
• 1:18:26
  property. And so she stepped over to hear
• 1:18:32
  what she had to say, and she called me.
• 1:18:37
  Well, first she said, fuck you. and she killed her head like she
• 1:18:43
  was trying to be cute and koi, you know, but and then she's,
• 1:18:51
  you know, call me a bit and just one off it just Just continued
• 1:19:00
  to curse me. and, I don't I didn't she caught me off guard
• 1:19:07
  with that. I didn't know why.
• 1:19:10
  You know, we hadn't had a previous argument. so, It just
• 1:19:18
  sort of stunned me, you know? I couldn't you know there wasn't
• 1:19:25
  any reason for it. but I'm She gave me a pretty thorough person
• 1:19:31
  and we went kind of went back and forth a little bit.
• 1:19:34
  And then then she had it on inside and I can went on and
• 1:19:38
  continued to cut the grass. and, Hold on this morning um and know
• 1:19:47
  the answer is getting a little long.
• 1:19:48
  I just want to shorten it. Did you contact law enforcement
• 1:19:52
  as a result of this? Yes I did.
• 1:19:55
  The did you speak to law enforcement?
• 1:19:57
  Yes I did. Do you remember who you spoke to
• 1:20:01
  officer Hollis was dispatched and you informed him?
• 1:20:10
  What happened? Bad.
• 1:20:13
  That. because when she was talking about bouncing up and
• 1:20:18
  down, like People when they were wanting to fight or something
• 1:20:22
  and not talk to him about it. um, and he said he would go over
• 1:20:30
  and talk to her. Did any other?
• 1:20:36
  You don't have to go into details, but did anything else
• 1:20:38
  like this? From my house.
• 1:20:49
  And after he talked with her, she started to rent and then
• 1:20:56
  Raven. She was like in her front yard
• 1:20:59
  and she was just screaming out. that I was a whore and went
• 1:21:09
  through all the cousin again. and then she said that she was
• 1:21:16
  going to Fucking kill me. She didn't know how.
• 1:21:24
  Oh, When? The this.
• 1:21:37
  Behavior in the Fallen days. Um, while I call from Mr. Hollis
• 1:21:44
  to come back. he talked to her again and yes, the it can the
• 1:22:03
  continued to just like a pattern just sort of developed.
• 1:22:09
  Did you file for an injunction based on this?
• 1:22:14
  Yes, and April. kind of just scared me because
• 1:22:55
  up in Junction was granted that same day and then on, May 7th.
• 1:23:04
  we went to court and It was granted by judge Garcia for six
• 1:23:10
  months for six months, okay? Yeah, first witness.
• 1:23:14
  Yes, sir. So the sort of showing you what
• 1:23:20
  has the Markus States exhibit? A, can you tell me what this is?
• 1:23:26
  Final judgment for protection against stalking and this is the
• 1:23:30
  injunction that you received on. May 7th 2025, right?
• 1:23:35
  And And is that your signature on the title page?
• 1:23:44
  Yes. Okay, your own State's a donor
• 1:23:53
  Miracle. Alphabetical her neither Okay.
• 1:23:58
  I don't know but yeah we can use their stickers.
• 1:24:03
  Just I didn't know if her numerical the state always used
• 1:24:06
  to letters for some reason we used numbers, I don't know if it
• 1:24:08
  makes a difference really. Mr. Action injection, the states
• 1:24:11
  he's proposed exhibit a objection.
• 1:24:13
  Your honor State saving it into evidence and Now.
• 1:24:23
  You said that you two are neighbors, you've had to put it
• 1:24:26
  on the back of the front page to put it somewhere and I'm gonna
• 1:24:29
  see that once you get it marked. I'm sorry.
• 1:24:30
  Go ahead, Mr. Mitchell. I was so probably they said that
• 1:24:33
  you're that you two are neighbors.
• 1:24:35
  How does compliance with the injunction work with you to be
• 1:24:40
  in Neighbors? Well. it could have worked, but
• 1:24:48
  it didn't because She couldn't stop saying things.
• 1:24:53
  Well actually let me ask you a different way.
• 1:24:56
  Did Judge Garcia, you said it was judge Garcia that she
• 1:25:01
  enforce special conditions given the circumstance.
• 1:25:05
  She said that When she could live. in the house and her
• 1:25:10
  house. whether her husband and that for her to have no contact.
• 1:25:19
  Did Judge Garcia. Also say there will be no forms
• 1:25:22
  of harassment objection on our calls were here.
• 1:25:25
  So Here are you, you're asking her to judge Garcia.
• 1:25:30
  Say that are you are you and you're sadness?
• 1:25:33
  Hearsay here. Are you asking what's in the
• 1:25:34
  order? Yeah, I'm asking what's in the
• 1:25:36
  injunction? Okay, and tell me how that's
• 1:25:39
  yours. Say.
• 1:25:39
  I think that the way he phrases the question was to judge
• 1:25:42
  Garcia. Say yes, I think it's valid
• 1:25:44
  point. So if you want to be clear
• 1:25:45
  clarify that question please. Someone sustain and asked to the
• 1:25:48
  form of the question, was their condition of no harassment.
• 1:25:50
  Yes, and after being Junction was granted, did the harassment
• 1:25:59
  stopped Do you recall how many more incidents there were?
• 1:26:06
  through the end of July, there was probably a total of maybe 13
• 1:26:14
  incidents. and, When did you contact?
• 1:26:22
  Sergeant Hollis after the injunction was granted.
• 1:26:31
  And well actually let me change that question again.
• 1:26:34
  Did you contact law enforcement shortly after in Junction was
• 1:26:38
  granted? Yes.
• 1:26:41
  Was it Sergeant Hollis? Hey.
• 1:26:47
  I think she needs only has two, two policemen, so, yes, it was
• 1:26:51
  called this batch and they sent officer Hollis.
• 1:26:56
  Okay. And did you document these
• 1:27:02
  incidents? Yes, why did you document them?
• 1:27:07
  Well, um, Mr. Holland said tell me that I should.
• 1:27:15
  Say. Were you advised to document
• 1:27:21
  these incidents? Yes.
• 1:27:27
  And where did you document these incidents?
• 1:27:32
  And my little notebook. And who did you provide a copy
• 1:27:36
  of this notebook? Or would you all call it a
• 1:27:39
  journal to journal? I call it, I call it a journal.
• 1:27:44
  I provided a copy of it to State Attorney.
• 1:27:51
  I've provided a copy of it to the sneeze Police Department,
• 1:27:55
  which I think they forwarded it to you and your office.
• 1:28:04
  I gave a copy of it, too. Jan Maron or the attorney that I
• 1:28:13
  used in the injunction. I think that's it.
• 1:28:22
  Okay. What am i showing you right now?
• 1:28:36
  Now. That's okay.
• 1:28:42
  And this is your hidden, right? Yes.
• 1:28:45
  So you recognize this as an a copy of what you provided from
• 1:28:50
  your Journal. Yes.
• 1:28:51
  And it's in a fair and accurate depiction as it is in your
• 1:28:56
  original journal to Signal moves.
• 1:29:01
  You honor, I believe it goes beyond the scope of the
• 1:29:05
  information. At some parts, it appears from
• 1:29:10
  the report and the information, there's four incidences that
• 1:29:14
  we're talking about. I know that she said there's 13,
• 1:29:16
  unfortunately, the state only filed on from June 28th until
• 1:29:22
  July 27th. There's been four instances on
• 1:29:25
  that. So are we trying to admit the
• 1:29:28
  entire journal or just on those four instances Mr. Mitchell,
• 1:29:33
  28th to July 26th. And there's no objection, okay?
• 1:29:42
  Get that portion or we could just get the whole company and
• 1:29:45
  change it later on right now. Well, introduce you right now in
• 1:29:50
  reserve to exit later. So, I need you to take a stick a
• 1:29:58
  yellow sticky, note, one of something that show me what to
• 1:30:01
  start where to start reading and where to not read then because I
• 1:30:04
  don't wanna look at something that's not in evidence. but if
• 1:30:08
  they made an Evidence with the agreement, that the This
• 1:30:11
  documents can be substituted and replaced by another document,
• 1:30:14
  that cuts out any dates that aren't charged, which is
• 1:30:17
  anything before July June 28th or anything after July 27th.
• 1:30:20
  And I believe that's going to be page 13.
• 1:30:23
  And this is her number. I don't know if it's
• 1:30:25
  specifically page 13 through. Pages. 22.
• 1:30:34
  That's right or 23. 22 22. Are you going to use?
• 1:30:38
  Are you going to ask for questions about that now?
• 1:30:43
  If she needs it as a refresher, it looks like it's pretty simple
• 1:30:46
  process to go ahead and just get someone in your office starter
• 1:30:48
  working on, getting that copy of it, if she needs it for a
• 1:30:52
  refresher, okay? So let's go ahead and get
• 1:30:54
  someone in your office working on getting that modified.
• 1:30:56
  That way, we want more about me looking at the wrong thing. if
• 1:31:00
  you've got another copy, So that's emitted in evidence when
• 1:31:10
  those with that stipulation. All right.
• 1:31:12
  Mr. Mitchell now, um, Let me ask you.
• 1:31:27
  When you started documenting these incidents.
• 1:31:29
  Did you carry your cell phone with you?
• 1:31:33
  Most of the time I did try to. Um, before this happened, I
• 1:31:41
  really wasn't used to carrying it, but I tried to carry it with
• 1:31:44
  me most of the time. And why were you doing that?
• 1:31:49
  because, I never knew when something was gonna happen and
• 1:31:54
  things had happened when I didn't have it with me and I
• 1:31:59
  really couldn't prove. What did they take and place
• 1:32:01
  without it? Your intention to.
• 1:32:06
  Always record when you were out in your yard.
• 1:32:09
  Know, I didn't always record. I just had it.
• 1:32:15
  In case. I saw her outside or something
• 1:32:19
  and I was a if I was working in an area close to the fence or
• 1:32:24
  whatever, Something might happen.
• 1:32:27
  So I was prepared. So let's talk about an incident,
• 1:32:35
  that happened on June 28th, 2025 at about 7:40 pm.
• 1:32:40
  Do you remember that date and time?
• 1:32:44
  June the 28th. Would be helpful if you reviewed
• 1:32:56
  your journal for purposes of refreshing.
• 1:32:58
  Yeah, that was the day when she was, Going out.
• 1:33:06
  Pretty sure it was a day. She was going out to her garbage
• 1:33:10
  can and she said you got down bitch.
• 1:33:21
  You're not the one that fought in the damn War.
• 1:33:25
  I am Well, she looking at you when this happened.
• 1:33:32
  Yes and you said you know Miss bar foot for a long time, close
• 1:33:38
  to seven years Yeah, I think so. So you recognize her voice.
• 1:33:44
  Oh yeah, I could yeah, I could see her. and, What was it?
• 1:33:49
  She said to you again. You got Dan bitch.
• 1:33:53
  You're not the one that fought in the damn War.
• 1:33:56
  I am Was she looking in your direction?
• 1:34:01
  Yeah, she was looking out times. You said it.
• 1:34:04
  She was looking at me and I didn't see anybody else out
• 1:34:07
  there and and, you know, Could you see if she had a phone in
• 1:34:14
  her hand? Know she was putting something
• 1:34:17
  in the trash cans so she didn't I didn't see any phone.
• 1:34:24
  What about on July 4th? Can you recall?
• 1:34:31
  Something that happened on that day.
• 1:34:32
  Yes. And what, what happened?
• 1:34:40
  I was going out. To the roadside to get.
• 1:34:45
  My trash can bring back to the yard and Marlene.
• 1:34:58
  Started yelling out. Thank you so much.
• 1:35:06
  I hope you know, the, I hope, you know, the Lord and know his
• 1:35:11
  ways. something to the effect of don't expect the drunks to
• 1:35:21
  protect you. And snakes and rats and I, and
• 1:35:32
  then she laughed. You know.
• 1:35:41
  I don't know where that came from.
• 1:35:44
  And once again, was there. Anyone else in your yard?
• 1:35:49
  But me, what about her yard? She was the only one outside in
• 1:35:57
  her yard. Stink.
• 1:35:59
  You know, standing in her yard, that was a car, pulling out of
• 1:36:03
  her yard. and, you know, I saw her over there and I looked and
• 1:36:14
  She was giving me that look like.
• 1:36:18
  Somebody would like to make sure somebody is looking at them and,
• 1:36:23
  you know, that's when she started shouting.
• 1:36:29
  To begin with, she was facing to vehicle.
• 1:36:31
  That was just about out of her driveway, and once it was gone.
• 1:36:37
  She didn't turn completely toward me and was yelling, so
• 1:36:41
  she was looking at you when she said this.
• 1:36:42
  Oh yeah. And did you capture this on your
• 1:36:46
  cell phone? Well, I can't trade the volume
• 1:36:51
  and I thought I had to turn toward her, but I had to turn
• 1:36:55
  for my feet cell phone. So I like I got, was the volume
• 1:36:59
  on it. So, Ben by volume.
• 1:37:02
  I mean, you captured the audio? Yes.
• 1:37:04
  Okay, your approach again. See you watched it in initial
• 1:37:22
  that. Okay so you have reviewed the
• 1:37:24
  contents of this disc. Yes and it fairly inaccurately,
• 1:37:27
  depicts the video that you recorded on July 4th.
• 1:37:34
  All right, your honor this time today will move to introduce
• 1:37:38
  Casey to this. No objection or States.
• 1:37:40
  If it's CBM, it in evidence. Do we have be back?
• 1:37:42
  Do we have? Okay, we need to get B in March
• 1:37:47
  and introduced. Or at least sort of introduced
• 1:37:50
  me to get to the clerk. The in your honor statement of
• 1:37:57
  us, granted. I just need PC one.
• 1:38:48
  Snorting, there's a screen, he'll go to that, right?
• 1:38:50
  In front of you, if you want to Look at that one.
• 1:40:41
  Snorting. I know it was very faint on the
• 1:40:45
  audio but could you hear Marlene barfoot in that recording?
• 1:40:49
  Yes, and could you hear the worst snakes and rats?
• 1:40:54
  Yes, your honour. so, thank You could hear on the audio is
• 1:40:59
  irrelevant. Okay?
• 1:41:00
  But you recognize that as Marlene Barkley's voice, yes.
• 1:41:04
  Or Let's go to. July 26th 2025, can you tell me
• 1:41:15
  what happened on that day? um, that was the day that um,
• 1:41:26
  That. She had a, I mentioned the
• 1:41:32
  surveillance camera that whenever I walked anywhere in my
• 1:41:39
  yard my backyard and the front area, like I came I'd been
• 1:41:45
  somewhere. So I came through my front gate.
• 1:41:48
  And I heard something. talking and I couldn't figure out what
• 1:41:55
  it was and So I just sort of, I can't walk and in the yard and
• 1:42:03
  then I heard smile, you're being recorded. and, Everywhere I
• 1:42:12
  walked in my backyard. Heard.
• 1:42:16
  You know, that beat that was said, you know, smile, you're
• 1:42:19
  being recorded. and that's the first time, That the camera had
• 1:42:27
  talked to me. And everywhere I went Over the
• 1:42:32
  backyard. It kept saying, you know, smile,
• 1:42:35
  you're being recorded. That on July 26th.
• 1:42:40
  I thought it was, um, Or. If you were to look at your
• 1:42:48
  Journal again, would that help refresh your memory?
• 1:42:53
  Yeah, I would. Okay.
• 1:43:11
  Let me know when you're done. just, So was it July 26th that
• 1:43:28
  the smile you're being recorded thing happened?
• 1:43:31
  Or was it something else? I think that was July maybe the
• 1:43:34
  24th. I think what happened on the
• 1:43:38
  26th? I've noticed that there was a
• 1:43:48
  bright light shining over. Into my yard from.
• 1:43:55
  From their backyard. And it was like a brilliant
• 1:44:01
  bright light. That.
• 1:44:06
  Shined all night long up until the next morning.
• 1:44:10
  It was on, but as it got dark. And I looked out the window, it
• 1:44:19
  was just like blinding but there was no point.
• 1:44:27
  In it being on. Because the way it was
• 1:44:29
  positioned, it was just shining Straight at my, the back of my
• 1:44:34
  house, it wasn't benefiting anybody.
• 1:44:38
  And their yard, it was just shining straight at my my house.
• 1:44:43
  and I called the police department because Oh, let me
• 1:44:50
  ask you this question right quick?
• 1:44:52
  So you were able to observe the spotlight.
• 1:44:55
  Correct. Yes.
• 1:44:56
  And was that the first time you had seen that Spotlight there?
• 1:45:00
  Yeah, that's the first time that that had been that had been
• 1:45:04
  done. Okay.
• 1:45:05
  And did you record a video of the spotlight?
• 1:45:09
  Yeah. Took several pictures of it but
• 1:45:13
  also recorded it. Yes.
• 1:45:15
  You're a main approach? Yes.
• 1:45:17
  One more time. But the one and D2.
• 1:45:27
  Recognizes yes. How do you recognize it again?
• 1:45:31
  I initial that I had seen in and you did review the contents of
• 1:45:36
  this disc of D1 and D2. Yeah, and it fairly accurate.
• 1:45:40
  Lee depicts for represents what? You recorded yourself on July
• 1:45:44
  26th? Yes.
• 1:45:45
  Okay. Look at those before we get to
• 1:45:53
  him, I think I know what they are.
• 1:45:54
  I want to make sure I thought it would just be wanted.
• 1:45:58
  Its. Real.
• 1:46:21
  Cheap. Now, I have been in evidence a
• 1:47:10
  state's exhibit, d. Two different videos.
• 1:47:15
  Yes, two different videos of the same thing.
• 1:47:17
  He said, I don't want one dpd it is on one day.
• 1:47:19
  So we're gonna call it tights composite exhibit D because it's
• 1:47:22
  on one physical piece of evidence.
• 1:47:25
  And the state will request permission.
• 1:47:30
  Like before I'm gonna play for my computer but see exact same
• 1:47:34
  videos. I believe me and Mr. Atkinson
• 1:47:40
  have stipulated that on exhibit. B1, we're gonna start a beat 55
• 1:47:44
  second, Mark, and just go to the 105.
• 1:47:46
  Mark, is that what's on? What's been introduced in
• 1:47:48
  evidence? Yes, that's what that's been a
• 1:47:50
  little bit more on that video. I think the only relevant
• 1:47:52
  portions are what you're looking at from that part of that part
• 1:47:55
  the other parts are just walking.
• 1:47:57
  That's what I've seen. Oh, What I have to make sure is
• 1:48:02
  what you're showing me. Is what's in evidence?
• 1:48:04
  Yes, if this is ever appealed and what that DVD is watched,
• 1:48:07
  there's nothing on that DVD outside of what you're showing
• 1:48:10
  me. You're on.
• 1:48:11
  Let's just play the whole time. Yeah, we'll play the whole
• 1:48:13
  thing, we'll play the whole thing kind of match, it's only
• 1:48:15
  three minutes and 55 seconds. So play the whole thing just to
• 1:48:19
  be safe for appeal purposes, okay?
• 1:48:23
  And don't need prosecutor PC. Here.
• 1:49:03
  You. Very quickly Norton where you
• 1:49:17
  currently standing. I'm coming out my my front door.
• 1:50:17
  You. He?
• 1:52:44
  Now. Miss Norton.
• 1:52:46
  Did you contact law enforcement about the incident?
• 1:52:50
  Yes, sir. And who did you speak with?
• 1:52:54
  Mr. Hollis. Okay.
• 1:52:56
  And did he come out to your property that day?
• 1:53:01
  Yes, you did. and, After he left.
• 1:53:07
  Did That Spotlight stay on. Yes, how long was it on?
• 1:53:15
  My up until sometimes on into the next morning.
• 1:53:21
  Okay, and that is where we will publish State's exhibit D2.
• 1:53:30
  Oh wait, yeah. So when is this the snake
• 1:53:35
  section from the next morning? I think so.
• 1:53:37
  Yes, that is next morning. Correct.
• 1:53:42
  I think so. Yeah.
• 1:54:25
  This Norton, you just observed it based on the angle in which
• 1:54:29
  that light was positioned as it faced towards your house.
• 1:54:32
  Yes. and, Do you have a spotlight like that?
• 1:54:38
  No. But I don't have one that I have
• 1:54:44
  ever used. I have one but I don't think
• 1:54:47
  I've ever used it. Okay. this morning, how do you
• 1:54:57
  He describes to the court. How you feel every time you
• 1:55:02
  leave from outside of your house, from inside your house.
• 1:55:08
  Your honor if I may, I'm not sure that that is relevant to
• 1:55:12
  the elements of the crime. However, I do believe that's
• 1:55:14
  relevant to the temporary injunction itself.
• 1:55:17
  If he is going to open this door, then I will be able to
• 1:55:21
  cross-examiner on that. That's just So I don't really,
• 1:55:25
  I'm raising an objection to relevant at this point in time,
• 1:55:29
  but understanding it's within the discretion of the court I
• 1:55:32
  would ask be allowed to cross examine on that if that comes
• 1:55:35
  in. It is relevant and let me tell
• 1:55:38
  you why. She's accused of violating and
• 1:55:42
  injunction for protection. And one of the ways to validate
• 1:55:45
  according to the jury instructions, which I have
• 1:55:46
  pulled up. Is.
• 1:55:54
  Wealthy, violate me and Junction.
• 1:55:55
  By committing an act of Stalking.
• 1:55:59
  I know I saw that in here in your owner, we're following.
• 1:56:02
  And so if that's the state's legal Theory, she's talking does
• 1:56:05
  have to do with harassment, which does have to do with the
• 1:56:07
  perception of the alleged victim.
• 1:56:09
  So, as your theory that she violated the injunction, look at
• 1:56:12
  your information, You don't believe the information says
• 1:56:15
  talking. I'm sorry.
• 1:56:18
  Go ahead. Mister, I believe it's under
• 1:56:20
  Section. 784.0487 subsection, four, A4.
• 1:56:25
  Let's look at that then. So the allegation is evaluated
• 1:56:29
  it by telephone and contacting our otherwise communicating with
• 1:56:32
  the petition directly or indirectly, unless the injection
• 1:56:34
  specifically allows so she's not accused of stalking.
• 1:56:38
  She's accused of violate the injunction in a very specific
• 1:56:40
  way. Telephone contacting or
• 1:56:43
  otherwise, communicating with the petitioner directly or
• 1:56:45
  indirectly. So tell me how her mental state,
• 1:56:49
  her perception of it is relevant.
• 1:56:51
  Given that the basis for the violation?
• 1:56:53
  Mr. Mitchell. I'll just I'll just write that
• 1:56:57
  question. So, sustained objection.
• 1:56:59
  Go ahead Mr. Mitchell. Finally, Ms. Norton is Marlene
• 1:57:05
  Barkley in this courtroom today? Yes, can you please Point her
• 1:57:09
  out? Identifier on article of
• 1:57:11
  clothing. Right here and he wanted to your
• 1:57:21
  left. Yes.
• 1:57:22
  All right, you're on her. Let the record reflect that the
• 1:57:25
  defendant has been identified. The Record Service, reflect and
• 1:57:29
  stable tender the witness for the Stop and Mr. Action, any
• 1:57:33
  questions? Yes, your owner now.
• 1:57:37
  I want to start with. The.
• 1:57:44
  July 26th incident first, if you don't mind you had stated that
• 1:57:52
  there's a spotlight shining. Any backyard?
• 1:57:54
  Correct. Is that right?
• 1:57:57
  It shined in my backyard in my windows.
• 1:58:00
  Okay, so you go out your front door in order to get your
• 1:58:03
  backyard. I live on a corner so the way
• 1:58:09
  it's situated. My front yard. and, Like I go
• 1:58:16
  out this way to my front to my front yard and then I guess this
• 1:58:20
  would be my side yard, but I call it my backyard.
• 1:58:23
  Just the way the place is set up.
• 1:58:24
  Okay. In your own Post Street,
• 1:58:27
  correct. I live in the corner of pipe in
• 1:58:29
  your road, okay? And so you're saying that your
• 1:58:32
  backyard is on Legion Road and your front door is on Legion
• 1:58:36
  Road. And so you're back door would be
• 1:58:39
  on Pope Road or Oak Street. Um, And this was why it was when
• 1:58:45
  I moved there and it's way, it's always been with.
• 1:58:49
  My Aunt Linda is your back house, faces Legion Road and the
• 1:58:54
  entrance to my home is Legion, right?
• 1:58:56
  There's no gate on Pope Street. My address is Pope street, but I
• 1:59:01
  have a solid chain link fence down Post Street and so, there's
• 1:59:05
  no entry way to come in that on there.
• 1:59:08
  And so let me ask you a question, okay, so just be
• 1:59:12
  clear, you exit your front door to get to your backyard.
• 1:59:16
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:59:17
  So Did you? And I think I may have asked you
• 1:59:24
  this before who owns the spotlight there.
• 1:59:29
  He put this Spotlight there. Yeah.
• 1:59:32
  Well. One of two people next door.
• 1:59:37
  So you don't know. I don't know.
• 1:59:42
  Um, so moving on to, July. The 24th I think is what you
• 1:59:52
  said is that correct? What happened on July 24th?
• 1:59:59
  That was the. Motion detector.
• 2:00:04
  For July 8th or do you know? Well I know it was toward the
• 2:00:10
  end of July with the motion detector and the spotlight being
• 2:00:15
  very close together. Okay.
• 2:00:17
  Um, and How long does that came within their, do you know?
• 2:00:24
  I don't know about that camera. How long it has been there?
• 2:00:27
  Okay. But there was other cameras that
• 2:00:29
  were there prior to July 8th or 24th.
• 2:00:33
  Is my belief. There had been another camera
• 2:00:36
  there prior to this one. Okay.
• 2:00:38
  And prior to the entry of the injunction, correct Yes.
• 2:00:42
  Okay. But your Chief complaint here is
• 2:00:46
  not the camera, it's just that the audio recording, ghost
• 2:00:51
  smile. You're being recorded of the
• 2:00:52
  cameras that right. well, I don't It bothers me being
• 2:00:59
  recorded all the time. Okay, but it was there before
• 2:01:02
  the injunction, it didn't bother me.
• 2:01:04
  So right. It's always bothered me, okay?
• 2:01:10
  so, Who hung the camera there? The bar fits.
• 2:01:15
  Okay. Which barfoot was it?
• 2:01:18
  Her mom, was it Mr? Barfoot Do you know?
• 2:01:22
  Well it was Mr. Barfoot or Mrs. Barfoot.
• 2:01:26
  Okay, so you don't. Wait, imagine it was one of
• 2:01:30
  them. Okay.
• 2:01:31
  So you don't know who I'm back, camera up the yeah, okay.
• 2:01:40
  Now. moving on to July the 4th and I'm going to look at your
• 2:01:52
  your actual Journal here. Do you recall what you didn't
• 2:01:55
  put in your Journal, man? Well, I'm not looking at it
• 2:02:00
  right now, but I've had to pretty much had the gist of it,
• 2:02:03
  isn't it? Correct that you actually
• 2:02:04
  believed that she was yelling at the occupants of the car?
• 2:02:08
  I believe she was putting on a show, okay, so you speculate
• 2:02:13
  that she was actually trying to make contact with you.
• 2:02:16
  Even though from your observations, she's making
• 2:02:20
  contact with the occupants of the car.
• 2:02:25
  She was putting on a show to get my attention, is what she was
• 2:02:30
  doing because she looked over to make sure I was watching. before
• 2:02:35
  she Put on her show. So and the car drive off.
• 2:02:40
  And so, It kept it kept on going, okay?
• 2:02:45
  So you assume that because Mrs, barfoot had looked in your
• 2:02:49
  direction, And then turned around and started talking to
• 2:02:53
  the occupants of the car that she must be talking to you.
• 2:02:58
  They were driving out the driveway.
• 2:02:59
  They couldn't hear her talk, and you're saying she was yelling.
• 2:03:04
  Yes. And they were backing out of the
• 2:03:06
  driveway. Correct?
• 2:03:07
  I saw what they were doing and they were looking at her.
• 2:03:10
  Okay, and she wasn't looking at. You said she turned back around
• 2:03:14
  towards occupants of the vehicle.
• 2:03:16
  Correct. Just all that happened in just a
• 2:03:20
  brief. Couple of seconds.
• 2:03:22
  Okay? And specifically this is the
• 2:03:24
  snakes and rats and today, correct.
• 2:03:26
  The one that we saw on the video, right?
• 2:03:28
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:03:29
  And that happened on July 4, 2025 6:35 p.m.
• 2:03:34
  I believe so. Okay, and then you also put in
• 2:03:38
  here July, 4th 2015. 635 p.m. is that are you getting your dates
• 2:03:44
  mixed up or what happened there? That's just called an error.
• 2:03:47
  Okay. A scrivener's error right.
• 2:03:52
  All right. I'm not sure what's good.
• 2:03:55
  An area is right here, you didn't?
• 2:03:57
  Yes, I just made it error. Where's the air at him?
• 2:04:01
  You understand that, again, 15 middle of It.
• 2:04:09
  Okay. Now, so the incident on July 4th
• 2:04:14
  where she's able to July 4th, 2015 is actually the same
• 2:04:17
  incident that you're talking about July 4th 2025, correct?
• 2:04:20
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:04:22
  So on July, on page 14 of July 4th 2025 there was a car there,
• 2:04:27
  right? And that's 6:35 p.m.
• 2:04:31
  Correct. Yes, okay, and then at 6:35 p.m.
• 2:04:35
  on July 4th, which is on page 15.
• 2:04:38
  Now, you're saying that more leaned yet you.
• 2:04:44
  She was getting trying. She was Getting her point
• 2:04:46
  across. She was yelling at me.
• 2:04:48
  It was all done for me to hear. Looking for you to hear, not to
• 2:04:55
  make contact with you indirectly directly.
• 2:04:57
  That's exactly what it was. Okay.
• 2:04:59
  Even though she was directing her contact for someone else,
• 2:05:03
  There was no one else listening to her, it was for my benefit.
• 2:05:06
  Okay. So she could have been yelling
• 2:05:08
  at the occupants of the car like you put in your Journal.
• 2:05:12
  But you assume that was towards you, you're gonna object.
• 2:05:15
  I think she's already answered this question.
• 2:05:18
  You're not think she's being a little bit evasive with her
• 2:05:20
  answering, but I can understand the courts.
• 2:05:22
  I think she has entered the questions.
• 2:05:29
  Now. Arlene.
• 2:05:32
  Normally wears a phone earbud near ears that, right?
• 2:05:37
  I have no idea. Okay, then you put that in your
• 2:05:39
  Journal. So I think I've said before, I
• 2:05:43
  didn't know if she had an earbud, okay?
• 2:05:46
  All right, then. And you said that she was
• 2:05:50
  talking about the July 26th 2025 and then did you?
• 2:05:54
  You said she didn't have anything in her hands.
• 2:05:57
  No phone or anything like that right here.
• 2:05:59
  He may have the dates wrong or something.
• 2:06:02
  I'm sorry. Is it June 28th?
• 2:06:04
  That's right. June 28th, 2025 you said she was
• 2:06:08
  taking her trash? Yes.
• 2:06:14
  Okay. You understood the question,
• 2:06:18
  right? She was taking out a trash.
• 2:06:21
  On June the 28th. I'm would you like to refresh
• 2:06:34
  your memory? Okay.
• 2:07:13
  Yes, sir. That quickly refresh your memory
• 2:07:35
  man. Yes.
• 2:07:36
  Okay, so what's she taking out a trash that day?
• 2:07:39
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:07:40
  And I believe that this was the day that you said she stated you
• 2:07:45
  and I'm not going to use the words but GDB I'm the one who
• 2:07:49
  fought in the D war. Is that correct?
• 2:07:51
  All right. All right then and I think you
• 2:07:56
  just stated she typically typically wear an earbud in her
• 2:07:59
  ear. Right?
• 2:08:00
  I never have said she typically was in your bed, okay, but you
• 2:08:03
  seen her, you know, she wears in your butt, right?
• 2:08:05
  Okay. But you put that in your turn, I
• 2:08:07
  just said I didn't know if she had an earbud or not, okay, so
• 2:08:11
  you didn't know she had near button or not, right?
• 2:08:13
  So, it's possible that on June 28th 2025 she hadn't near
• 2:08:17
  button, her ear, while she is taking out the trash Is that a
• 2:08:21
  fair statement? You're on her objection.
• 2:08:24
  Speculation? What?
• 2:08:25
  Where in the general are, but I'm missing that the honor.
• 2:08:29
  It's not in the June to the somewhere in the part that
• 2:08:33
  wasn't in that I'm looking for something that it's not nothing
• 2:08:37
  exists. At least what I got.
• 2:08:38
  Okay, so what is the question, what's the objection again?
• 2:08:40
  I was trying to find the earbud thing.
• 2:08:42
  I'm sorry to speculate that she had an earbud in here at the
• 2:08:46
  time and your point is that some more else in her journal she
• 2:08:49
  said something about a year but And your point your question is,
• 2:08:52
  you don't know where she had everybody or not?
• 2:08:54
  That's right. That's a fair question.
• 2:08:55
  You can answer the question if you can.
• 2:08:59
  I have no idea. Do you know the family Dynamic
• 2:09:08
  of Mrs? Barfoot and the rest of her
• 2:09:12
  family. I'm not quite sure.
• 2:09:15
  I know where you're getting at. Okay, you know, she's married.
• 2:09:19
  So yes, yes, you know, she has a daughter.
• 2:09:24
  Yes, you know, she has a mother. Yes.
• 2:09:28
  Do you know she has a sister? Okay.
• 2:09:34
  Do you know what the family Dynamic is between her daughter
• 2:09:36
  and herself or her sister and herself relevance?
• 2:09:41
  Yeah, I'm curious about the relevant.
• 2:09:43
  That's all the questions. I have your other redirect
• 2:09:49
  Mitchell briefly The story. but that's statement was said on
• 2:09:59
  June 28th, she looking in your direction.
• 2:10:03
  Yes, looking directly correctly at me.
• 2:10:07
  What about on July 4th? Well, let me ask that a
• 2:10:12
  different way what she looking directly at you on July 4th.
• 2:10:17
  Yes. It's all the question.
• 2:10:19
  I have here. Any recruits.
• 2:10:22
  Are made this way. Just be released.
• 2:10:23
  Yes. So thank you very much for your
• 2:10:26
  time and testimony that concludes.
• 2:10:28
  Your testimony just Norton. You're free to watch the
• 2:10:30
  remainder of the trial. If you wish, because you will
• 2:10:31
  not be recalled as a witness. Now, Any other Witnesses, Mr.
• 2:10:35
  Mitchell, yes. You're on our state will call
• 2:10:36
  Sergeant Quinton Holliston. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, good
• 2:10:42
  morning once again TCF live on a Thursday so as we wait for the
• 2:10:45
  next witness to come up to the stand, if you have joined us mid
• 2:10:49
  trial here this is a bunch trial in front of Judge, Mercer,
• 2:10:52
  basically, it's neighbor's Behaving Badly.
• 2:10:57
  The one neighbor's charged with stocking.
• 2:11:01
  Quite honestly, they both seem like, hideous human beings but
• 2:11:03
  we'll find out more as we continue.
• 2:11:06
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  She Mitchell whenever you're ready.
• 2:11:25
  Thank you, governor. Because you introduce yourself
• 2:11:32
  to the Court Clinton Hollis. And where are you currently
• 2:11:36
  employed? I just retired from Snead's
• 2:11:40
  Police Department, I'm still on the reserve, but okay, what was
• 2:11:43
  your ranking title? At Snead's Police Department
• 2:11:46
  sergeant And how long were you working at these Police
• 2:11:51
  Department? I think I worked there about two
• 2:11:54
  and a half years, have any other prior law, enforcement,
• 2:11:56
  experience beforehand. Um, 43 years old together, okay?
• 2:12:01
  And were you employed with sneeze Police Department?
• 2:12:05
  From May 22nd 2025, to July 26th 2025?
• 2:12:10
  Yes, And where you on duty during.
• 2:12:15
  Well actually, I'll ask a different way.
• 2:12:17
  Were you on duty on? May 22nd 2025?
• 2:12:21
  Yes. And on that day did you respond
• 2:12:24
  to a call at 8183? Pope Street in Sneads?
• 2:12:27
  Yes. And that's in Jackson County
• 2:12:29
  Florida. Yes.
• 2:12:31
  When you were, who did you make contact with?
• 2:12:34
  Might contact with Ms, Norton first.
• 2:12:37
  What were the circumstances for being dispatched?
• 2:12:40
  That location? It was, I believe called in as a
• 2:12:45
  kind of a stalking, or harassment complaint.
• 2:12:49
  What? Levant to clarifying question?
• 2:12:51
  You said May 22nd. So what you mean?
• 2:12:53
  All right. March, 22nd.
• 2:12:55
  Okay, March 22nd, thank you. Go ahead.
• 2:12:58
  March 22nd. You responded there.
• 2:13:01
  Yes. And you spoke with Ms. Norton.
• 2:13:02
  Yes. Did you collect a statement from
• 2:13:06
  her on that day? Yes not a I don't believe it was
• 2:13:11
  a type statement, but I did collect information from her.
• 2:13:15
  Yes. After speaking with her.
• 2:13:16
  Did you speak with Miss Barkley? Yes, I do more specifically
• 2:13:21
  Marlene barfoot. Yes, is Marlene Barkley in this
• 2:13:25
  courtroom today? Yes, he was born around
• 2:13:28
  identifier on Uncle clothing and you point to your left.
• 2:13:31
  Yes. And once again you're on her
• 2:13:34
  witness says identified the defendant What did you speak to
• 2:13:40
  Ms? Bartlett about just talk to her
• 2:13:43
  about the allegations night against her and asked her to
• 2:13:48
  please refrain from any Harassing cup Behavior against
• 2:13:54
  Ms. Norton. Did she say anything in response
• 2:13:57
  to that? She?
• 2:14:01
  Denied, most of it for the most part.
• 2:14:06
  So no arrest was made on that day.
• 2:14:08
  No. Did you speak with anyone else
• 2:14:10
  on that day? I don't think so.
• 2:14:16
  At some point later, did you learn of an active injunction
• 2:14:20
  against Miss barfoot? Yes, I did.
• 2:14:23
  And was that information provided to you?
• 2:14:26
  Yes. Do you remember what date?
• 2:14:28
  It said, the injunction was enforced.
• 2:14:35
  There was a lot with this case, I'm trying to remember the exact
• 2:14:40
  date, but I don't I don't recall.
• 2:14:42
  This honor about May 7th. 2025 sound about right?
• 2:14:47
  Yes. so, and are you aware of Miss Barker was started with
• 2:14:54
  this injunction? Yes.
• 2:14:56
  And so she was aware of it. Yes.
• 2:15:01
  After. The injunction was served on May
• 2:15:05
  7th 2025, did you receive any further contact from Miss
• 2:15:10
  Elizabeth Norton? Yes, I do. and, What did she
• 2:15:14
  call you about? She called me to report that
• 2:15:19
  there were continuing incidents of varying degrees of severity.
• 2:15:25
  That that Could be considered violations of the injunction.
• 2:15:35
  What did you say in response? I administered that, that we
• 2:15:40
  needed proof that I would help her, but if it was one person's
• 2:15:44
  word against another, it would be difficult to prosecute and
• 2:15:48
  that I encouraged her to get a notebook and keep note.
• 2:15:53
  Daily, whether things were good or bad.
• 2:15:57
  About any interactions what was going on.
• 2:15:59
  And if she had an ability, To record with her phone or any
• 2:16:07
  other way video tape any possible violations.
• 2:16:12
  And she said that she was going to get a small like a body
• 2:16:17
  camera that you can order offline, okay?
• 2:16:21
  But this was, this was your advice to her.
• 2:16:24
  Yes. And at some point, later, did
• 2:16:27
  you hear from Miss Norton again? Yes, I did.
• 2:16:30
  And at that time, did she provide you a copy of her
• 2:16:34
  journal? Yes.
• 2:16:35
  And you had a chance to look at her journal.
• 2:16:38
  Yes, I did. And did you use that journal in
• 2:16:42
  an effort to assist in your investigation?
• 2:16:44
  Yes, I did. and, Did she also provide you with any videos or
• 2:16:52
  recordings? Yes, Can you remember what you
• 2:16:56
  observed in those recordings? Like I said, there were numerous
• 2:17:02
  different incidents of different severity.
• 2:17:07
  Usually, the it was Miss Norton in her yard her own property.
• 2:17:15
  And Ms barfoot on her property in Miss there was no one else
• 2:17:20
  around at the time and Miss barfoot would be saying things
• 2:17:23
  that appeared to be directed at her. and, Could you hear Ms?
• 2:17:31
  Barkley's voice on these videos. Yes.
• 2:17:33
  How did you know it was her voice?
• 2:17:37
  I could see her in the video, and then here, her voice.
• 2:17:40
  And I recognized her voice from talking with her before.
• 2:17:44
  So, prior interactions. Yes.
• 2:17:47
  Do you recall any of the things she said?
• 2:17:52
  I don't have my notes with me, but there were things where she
• 2:18:00
  said things like, You know the drunks aren't going to help you
• 2:18:03
  anymore and then thing said, things about snakes and rats and
• 2:18:08
  then she in some of them use some profanity and and appeared
• 2:18:13
  to be calling just Norton. Go ahead your attention on.
• 2:18:18
  I think that essentially, the states trying to do the same
• 2:18:21
  thing where They already played the video now.
• 2:18:24
  They're trying to have Mr. Hollis narrate.
• 2:18:26
  I'm not 50. I'm at the same video or not but
• 2:18:29
  it's clearly not a missable. If you're asking him to comment
• 2:18:32
  on a video that you have he's asking him to interpret a video.
• 2:18:36
  That either has been introduced into evidence or Not In
• 2:18:39
  traditional evidence either way. His interpretation of the video
• 2:18:42
  is not admissible. The video may be, but the
• 2:18:45
  smartest interpretation is not. So the objection is sustained
• 2:18:48
  only. It, did you respond to Ms?
• 2:18:52
  Norton's residence on July 26th 2025?
• 2:18:56
  Yes, I did. What did You observe when you
• 2:19:01
  got to the residence on that day?
• 2:19:05
  I'm trying to remember what specifically, Happened on that
• 2:19:10
  day. There were a lot of
• 2:19:12
  interactions. Did you see a spotlight?
• 2:19:15
  Oh yeah. There, there was a spotlight on
• 2:19:18
  the back corner, it would have been the back right corner of
• 2:19:22
  Ms. Barfis property just crossed the fence from the back left of
• 2:19:27
  Ms. Norton's. And the spotlight was directed
• 2:19:31
  Shining Straight. At the house of Ms, Norton which
• 2:19:37
  will go ahead which seemed to serve.
• 2:19:40
  No purpose. And You observe this yourself.
• 2:19:43
  Yes. The angle and the direction?
• 2:19:45
  Yes. after observing that did you make contact with Ms, bar
• 2:19:52
  foot Yes, I did. Was she a company by anyone else
• 2:19:56
  on that day? Her husband What did you ask
• 2:20:01
  her? um, I reminded her of our
• 2:20:08
  previous conversation and that there was an injunction in place
• 2:20:13
  and You know, ask her why she was still having contact?
• 2:20:22
  And and why she was doing these things like shining a lot at her
• 2:20:27
  at her house and so forth. What did she say in response?
• 2:20:30
  Well, we'll start with that one. What did she say in response to
• 2:20:33
  the spotlight? She just said it was her
• 2:20:38
  Spotlight and she was it was in her yard.
• 2:20:42
  Basically. You know that it she didn't see
• 2:20:47
  any harm in it. Did you?
• 2:20:54
  Let me go back. Did you document different dates
• 2:20:59
  in your report? Yes, did you read off these
• 2:21:05
  dates and what was documented to miss barfoot?
• 2:21:10
  I believe, but whenever quite a few of the incidents, yes, did
• 2:21:15
  you go over the incidents on July 4th of 2025?
• 2:21:21
  How can you refresh my memory? What occurred that day.
• 2:21:23
  Did you ask her about? Snakes and rats and the Lord.
• 2:21:30
  Yeah. Yes, sir.
• 2:21:32
  Okay, so you asked her about that statement from July, 4th.
• 2:21:36
  Yes. What did she?
• 2:21:38
  What did you say to her in reference to that just to be
• 2:21:43
  clear? And the question asked he's
• 2:21:44
  talking to miss barfoot? Yes, he's talking about.
• 2:21:46
  That's what she understood. What was the last part of your
• 2:21:49
  question? So I may have just stumbled over
• 2:21:54
  myself up. He was talking to miss Martha
• 2:21:56
  about snakes in rats and what was the question?
• 2:21:58
  He asked her. So you asked her about snakes
• 2:22:02
  and rats? What did she say in response
• 2:22:07
  when you asked her about that? I don't know if I asked her
• 2:22:12
  about it or just told her about it, but her response was that
• 2:22:15
  she was talking to herself or talking to the Lord.
• 2:22:20
  And what did you say? I just reminded her that no
• 2:22:25
  contact order meant no contact and that she could be arrested
• 2:22:30
  for that for violation of the injunction and the Under that
• 2:22:37
  threat, it was being her best interest to have no contact.
• 2:22:42
  Okay. Any point, did you see a
• 2:22:51
  spotlight in this Norton's residence?
• 2:22:56
  No sir. State will tender for now.
• 2:23:04
  Thank you. Any questions for this witness
• 2:23:06
  Rex? Okay, did you show Mrs?
• 2:23:09
  Barfoot the video that Mrs. Norton had shown you regarding
• 2:23:14
  the snakes and rats or no, I didn't.
• 2:23:16
  Okay. So you really didn't have any
• 2:23:18
  contacts for what in order for Mrs. Barfoot to understand what
• 2:23:21
  you're talking about, you had no context to show her.
• 2:23:24
  Hey, Do you see this video? Did you give her contacts?
• 2:23:29
  Told her about the video, okay? And so based on what you're
• 2:23:35
  telling her Did you say Hey, you remember that?
• 2:23:42
  I think I just made her aware of it and then she commented back.
• 2:23:45
  Okay. Okay.
• 2:23:46
  So there was no contacts what you made her aware of correct.
• 2:23:51
  She didn't see the video at this point.
• 2:23:53
  She didn't see the video. Okay, when you get through that
• 2:23:57
  date, I need to clarify something.
• 2:23:58
  So there were multiple conversations with Miss barfoot.
• 2:24:02
  Did the conversation when you when you asked, what about the
• 2:24:05
  snakes and rats comment, did that happen then or did that
• 2:24:07
  happen? Two weeks later after the
• 2:24:09
  spotlight incident When I went back out.
• 2:24:16
  I'm trying to remember the date. I want to say on the fourth of
• 2:24:22
  July, Maybe. I spoke with her about several
• 2:24:28
  incidents that had occurred over the past, obviously, all of
• 2:24:32
  which had in the before that day.
• 2:24:33
  Correct. Yes.
• 2:24:34
  And then there was another at least one other conversation
• 2:24:37
  after the 28th and Spotlight incident.
• 2:24:39
  At least at least two conversations with her.
• 2:24:41
  Yes sir. Okay, thank you that, that
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  helped me with context, go ahead and you're all, go ahead and
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  clarify it states in your report.
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  You may contact on July 26th 2025.
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  Is that correct? Okay.
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  Yes. Okay.
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  And that was the incident regarding the spotlight, right?
• 2:24:58
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:24:58
  And that's whenever you got all the contacts for the previous
• 2:25:03
  incidents, July 8th, July 24th, June 28th.
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  That would be correct. Yes.
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  Okay. All right.
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  Did that clear things up? It was actually two different
• 2:25:13
  answers. I just picked her one time or
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  more than one time. How I spoke to her.
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  Way back in March. Okay.
• 2:25:22
  And then, I spoke to her again in July.
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  That clarified a lot. Thank you.
• 2:25:25
  All right. Um, and so I want to talk about
• 2:25:30
  the July 26th, which is the spotlight.
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  Mr. Barfoot was there, correct? Yes.
• 2:25:36
  Okay. Did you see who had hung this
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  Spotlight up in Azure? I did not.
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  Okay. Um, what about on?
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  July 28th. I think there was a camera
• 2:25:49
  incident. Our July 8th, I'm sorry, July
• 2:25:53
  8th, they may have been a camera incidents.
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  Now you're being recorded. Yes, okay.
• 2:25:58
  Um, and You know who hung that camera up.
• 2:26:02
  Okay. Were you aware that?
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  That camera was hung up before the injunction was entered?
• 2:26:07
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:26:09
  On the July 4th 2025 incidents. This is the snakes and rats
• 2:26:17
  incidents where you made aware that the Mrs. Barfoot was
• 2:26:24
  actually talking to her daughter and son or daughter's boyfriend
• 2:26:30
  No, you're not made aware that. Okay, but you had her journal,
• 2:26:34
  this is Norton's Journal, right? Yes, have copies of it.
• 2:26:39
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:26:39
  And were you wearing in her journal that she was saying that
• 2:26:44
  she was pretending to yell at the occupants of the vehicle?
• 2:26:49
  I didn't, I don't recall that. Okay.
• 2:26:52
  Okay. um, and then on did you get a call on about June 28th?
• 2:27:02
  Or did she talk to you about June 28th as well?
• 2:27:04
  I believe so. Yes.
• 2:27:06
  Okay and do you know, Whether or not Mrs. Barfoot, did you see
• 2:27:15
  Mrs. Barfoot talking on the phone that day?
• 2:27:18
  Oh, I didn't see her talking on the phone.
• 2:27:21
  Okay, do you know what incident? We're even talking about June
• 2:27:25
  28th, can you refresh my memory? Okay.
• 2:27:27
  Was there an incident where Mrs barfoot was taking her trash
• 2:27:33
  out? I believe so yes.
• 2:27:38
  Okay. And do you know, if she weren't
• 2:27:42
  there? Right?
• 2:27:42
  Right. Okay.
• 2:27:44
  Do you know she was talking on her phone that day?
• 2:27:46
  I don't know that. Okay, that's all the questions.
• 2:27:49
  I have any other redirect. Briefly.
• 2:27:56
  When you were speaking with Miss barfoot on July 26th, did you
• 2:28:00
  ask her who hung the spotlight? Know I didn't.
• 2:28:04
  Okay, that's all your honor. Okay, any recruits.
• 2:28:10
  No sorry. I just be excused.
• 2:28:13
  Yes, thank you for your time and testimony that concludes your
• 2:28:17
  your testimony, you're free to leave or watch the rest of the
• 2:28:20
  case if you wish or Any other Witnesses, Mr. Mitchell there
• 2:28:24
  are stable, rest Mr. X. All right, at this point, in
• 2:28:27
  time for a judgmental on the basis for that.
• 2:28:32
  Is that the four statue? 784.048 subsection 484 requires
• 2:28:42
  that a person willfully. Violates woefully violates an
• 2:28:46
  injunction for protection against stalking.
• 2:28:48
  Cyberstalking issues concerned to 784.048 or form protection
• 2:28:53
  order according to full faith and credit cards to 741 315 by
• 2:28:58
  and then subsection 4, which is the subsection that the state is
• 2:29:01
  going on are telephony, contacting or otherwise
• 2:29:04
  communicating with the petitioner directly or
• 2:29:06
  indirectly, unless the injection specifically allows and direct
• 2:29:09
  contact with third party. The four incidents that we're
• 2:29:12
  talking about here today are June 28th, July 4th, July 8th,
• 2:29:16
  and July 26th on June 28th. There was an incident at the
• 2:29:20
  trash cans, according to Mrs, Norton.
• 2:29:22
  However, when questioned by Mrs, Norton, she didn't know she was
• 2:29:26
  actually talking on phone because she's aware that she
• 2:29:29
  uses an earbud and did not know. Even though she didn't see
• 2:29:33
  anything in her hands. She cannot tell whether or not
• 2:29:35
  she was talking on the phone. There's no Evidence Beyond A
• 2:29:39
  Reasonable Doubt to show that Mrs. Norton Mrs bar for actually
• 2:29:43
  directed that conversation at Mrs. Norton on July 4th, 2025
• 2:29:47
  the same thing, occurs where we have the snakes and rats.
• 2:29:51
  And according to Mrs, Norton's own journal She states that she
• 2:29:58
  was apparently, attending to yell pretending to yell at the
• 2:30:01
  occupants of the call. She assumes that she was yelling
• 2:30:04
  at her. However, whenever on our
• 2:30:06
  cross-examination, I had asked Mrs, Norton about where she was
• 2:30:10
  turned. There's some confusion.
• 2:30:12
  There was she turned towards Mrs. Norton, did she look, this
• 2:30:15
  is Norton way. She was turned towards her car
• 2:30:18
  with her back towards her, but she says she was looking at her,
• 2:30:22
  and so I'm not sure if she was looking at her or looking at the
• 2:30:25
  occupants of the car with her back turned towards on July 8th.
• 2:30:29
  First of all, I believe that that the arrest was based on
• 2:30:33
  hearsay because we had the video.
• 2:30:36
  This was the best evidence that the state had to prove.
• 2:30:38
  That there is a violation of an injunction and the arrest was
• 2:30:43
  made on those videos in conjunction with this journal
• 2:30:46
  right here and this is Norton, essentially narrating.
• 2:30:49
  Hey this is what's happening and two Clinton Hollis and on the
• 2:30:53
  Mr. Arrest rule. I believe that he did.
• 2:30:56
  Not have had probable cause to arrest based on these incidents
• 2:30:59
  in conjunction with those videos.
• 2:31:01
  So that part again now I'm trying to understand that.
• 2:31:04
  About the missing arrest warrant where we said.
• 2:31:06
  I believe that. The misdemeanor arrest rule
• 2:31:08
  would say that he had to actually see these incidents
• 2:31:10
  happen. He said he relied on the journal
• 2:31:12
  entry in conjunction with videos in order to get the contacts to
• 2:31:17
  where he can have probable cause to arrest her for that.
• 2:31:19
  Some of the first arrest, the yes.
• 2:31:21
  Was the was the first arrest pursuant to Warner was it was
• 2:31:25
  pursued to award and the warrant was based upon the complaining
• 2:31:29
  multiple incidents. So it was, it was a warrant
• 2:31:32
  arrest. Yes, it was.
• 2:31:32
  I thought it was okay. And even with that again, we
• 2:31:38
  don't know who hung the camera up.
• 2:31:39
  We don't know when we do know that the camera was there prior
• 2:31:44
  to the injunction being entered. So how she has complain about
• 2:31:47
  that at all is beyond me. July 26th again.
• 2:31:50
  We don't know who this Spotlight up.
• 2:31:52
  Should be Mr. Barfoot, could be Mrs, bar foot, but we know on
• 2:31:57
  the July 26th and based on Mrs. Norton's Journal.
• 2:32:01
  Mr. Barfoot was outside when the Spotlight was shining on.
• 2:32:06
  So your owner I don't believe that the state's prove this
• 2:32:08
  Beyond Reasonable Doubt I don't believe that they've proven that
• 2:32:11
  Mrs. Norton has I mean Mrs Bartlett has had contact with
• 2:32:15
  Mrs, Norton. Direct or indirectly.
• 2:32:17
  We would ask for a quilt. Thank you, Mr. Mitchell just a
• 2:32:22
  moment you're on her. Your honor stay with petition
• 2:32:33
  that we met a burden to at least, get over the joa in this
• 2:32:38
  situation. You know, the testimony and
• 2:32:41
  evidence has made clear that Ms. Barfoot will fully I either
• 2:32:46
  indirectly or directly communicate it towards Miss
• 2:32:49
  Norton. You know, the defense is making
• 2:32:51
  references to Ms. Norton's awareness of an earbud, but
• 2:32:56
  witness testimony of physical evidence.
• 2:32:58
  Does not support reston's awareness of this earbud.
• 2:33:01
  She testified that she saw Mr. Foot staring at her, made these
• 2:33:08
  statements and the I was going to say the explicitly of the
• 2:33:16
  statements towards her just Its self-explanatory in that
• 2:33:21
  situation all. So, you know, the defense will
• 2:33:24
  mention about the camera incident, you know, about the
• 2:33:27
  audible statements from the camera, but miss Norton
• 2:33:29
  testified that that was the first time that she had heard
• 2:33:33
  about, you know, smile, you're being recorded, So it's
• 2:33:37
  irrelevant to how long the camera has been there.
• 2:33:39
  This is showing that you know It and post injunction something
• 2:33:44
  has changed in the sense of the camera.
• 2:33:46
  That now, when she steps out into her own yard, she's hearing
• 2:33:49
  these statements be brought forth, but nonetheless, take
• 2:33:52
  away from that, you know, the jury instructions.
• 2:33:55
  I know this is have been trial, but we still look at the jury
• 2:33:57
  instructions in the Statue to determine whether or not a case
• 2:34:00
  is meant in this situation, it's an injunction for protection
• 2:34:05
  against stalking that was issued by the court against the
• 2:34:08
  defender for the benefit of the victim.
• 2:34:09
  And, you know, in this situation we would say that sparklett
• 2:34:14
  willfully violated the injunction by committing that
• 2:34:18
  stalking against the victim. Oh, It's not what you charged
• 2:34:22
  with, but you know, I'm sorry. Wrong wrong.
• 2:34:25
  So, wrong thing. That's a different Alice, okay?
• 2:34:28
  Specifically subsection D, which would be telling contacting or
• 2:34:33
  otherwise. Communicating with in this case,
• 2:34:35
  Miss Norton, directly or indirectly, unless the young
• 2:34:39
  specifically allows indirect context through a third party.
• 2:34:43
  So we would petition that we have presented a case and the
• 2:34:47
  joa motion should be denied. Okay.
• 2:35:00
  So since Joss are taking the light, most favorable to the
• 2:35:05
  non-moving party, in this case, the state The confusion I have
• 2:35:11
  is, is the comparison between a probable, cause analysis, and a
• 2:35:15
  yosys. Clearly, the state is not proven
• 2:35:20
  Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. The June 28th incident. there's
• 2:35:26
  one witness saying that no witnessing anything else and
• 2:35:30
  that's just not proven The July 4th incident.
• 2:35:34
  I need listen to the Video again.
• 2:35:40
  July 26th incident, is the strongest incident with the
• 2:35:43
  light. And the July 8th and then is
• 2:35:46
  nothing. It's it's useless. so, That I
• 2:35:53
  don't know that for joa purpose is the analysis is really not
• 2:35:55
  Reasonable Doubt. Then Alice's is in the lot, most
• 2:35:59
  favorable to the state as a state made a promise you case.
• 2:36:03
  So it's very similar if not identical to probable calls.
• 2:36:05
  So for that reason, I'm going to deny the motion for joa.
• 2:36:10
  Um, but it's a it's a close call at least in three of the dates.
• 2:36:13
  Yeah. And given that you have any
• 2:36:17
  Witnesses you would like to call Mr. Atkinson, would you like to
• 2:36:20
  speak to your client to discuss that?
• 2:36:21
  Yes kind of speak to my client? Absolutely.
• 2:36:23
  Would you discuss in the same room?
• 2:36:24
  You spoke our previously? Okay, friends.
• 2:36:30
  The good news is we get to take a break from that while they
• 2:36:32
  discuss things obviously. They're going to figure out
• 2:36:35
  whether or not she takes the stand.
• 2:36:36
  But obviously we've got to finish this at this point.
• 2:36:39
  So what do we talk about here? We talk about, you know, proper
• 2:36:43
  behaviors. Good responsibility, stuff like
• 2:36:45
  that. Yet again, we've got a model of
• 2:36:47
  people who just don't know how to be.
• 2:36:50
  Human. All right.
• 2:36:53
  Well we wait. Let's go to Texas.
• 2:36:55
  Judge Stevens. Dog, gone it judgy.
• 2:37:02
  I literally just go there, any cuts the feed.
• 2:37:05
  That is so rude. Let's do this.
• 2:37:10
  Then Let's go to. Louisiana on the parole board.
• 2:37:16
  Six I call to order. A time is 842, my name is Pete
• 2:37:23
  Freeman. I'll be back and share along
• 2:37:26
  with me as Michelle or not and it's just Steve prayed.
• 2:37:29
  It will be our panel today. Would he Quarter Staff introduce
• 2:37:33
  yourself please? Okay, with the staff at the
• 2:37:38
  prison introduce yourself. And Jennifer.
• 2:37:43
  Oh, okay. And today, Mr. Lopez you're here
• 2:37:48
  for a revocation here and would you please state your name and
• 2:37:51
  DLC number? Zachary Lopez 7117113.
• 2:37:56
  Okay. And do you have a parole
• 2:38:00
  questionnaire in front of Them yes sir.
• 2:38:02
  Okay did you sign that question there?
• 2:38:05
  Yes, sir I did. Okay you realize you're not
• 2:38:08
  eligible for pointing counselors if you want to counter that are
• 2:38:12
  one Yes, sir. Okay, so you ready to proceed
• 2:38:16
  today? Yes, sir.
• 2:38:19
  Okay, your case has been assigned to Mr. Steve Prater.
• 2:38:25
  Lopez you doing okay today, huh. Yes, sir.
• 2:38:30
  How you doing? Fine, fine.
• 2:38:32
  How long have you been in jail on this absconding?
• 2:38:36
  Charge. Five months.
• 2:38:39
  Okay. How many months?
• 2:38:41
  Okay. But we're here to talk about if
• 2:38:44
  Scott and thing and it's really violation of conditions, two
• 2:38:48
  three and nine. And there really all kind of the
• 2:38:51
  same thing. You made yourself unavailable
• 2:38:54
  for the probation parole to find you when they needed to try to
• 2:38:57
  find you. What do you have to say about
• 2:39:01
  that? Oh, yes, sir, I did.
• 2:39:07
  I was working out of town and I was with, and also seeing myself
• 2:39:13
  on who lived in Denham Springs. I apologize and I will not let
• 2:39:19
  it happen again. How many times have you been on
• 2:39:22
  parole? In your life.
• 2:39:32
  That. Frozen up.
• 2:39:39
  My second time, this is the second time zeep mature class
• 2:39:45
  offender correct, yes sir. Okay, so, you know, the
• 2:39:51
  importance of keeping up with your with your parole officer
• 2:39:54
  and you didn't do that. You didn't?
• 2:39:59
  I have phone records. Trying to contact my role of.
• 2:40:01
  I never got in contact with nobody.
• 2:40:04
  That's that's excuses. If I was on Parole.
• 2:40:07
  You think we were siamese twins or something?
• 2:40:11
  I'd be so close to my parole officer.
• 2:40:13
  Oh I okay. And you owe some money.
• 2:40:18
  How much do you owe? I'm not quite sure how much I
• 2:40:22
  think I like a thousand dollars. Okay.
• 2:40:26
  All right. Oh, have any other questions?
• 2:40:30
  I mean if you got a you got to find make yourself available.
• 2:40:33
  It's not our job go and try to find you.
• 2:40:36
  It's your job. Make sure we know where to find
• 2:40:38
  you and you're there. Well, you say You're Gonna Be
• 2:40:41
  and that didn't happen. I don't have any other
• 2:40:43
  questions, okay, I just want to know for the record.
• 2:40:46
  He's a second fell on the offender.
• 2:40:50
  So he's not a pit. Okay.
• 2:40:54
  Mister do you have any questions?
• 2:40:56
  No, I do not. Thank you.
• 2:40:59
  All right, I have no questions either.
• 2:41:02
  Mr. Greater, if you're ready to vote, Yes, sir.
• 2:41:06
  Oh my vote. In this case because of the
• 2:41:09
  severity of it. I'm gonna find that he violated
• 2:41:12
  conditions, two, three and nine and and He should be violated.
• 2:41:17
  He's gonna be getting out of the short time anyways.
• 2:41:19
  So okay, we have speak on his behalf all, so I'm sorry.
• 2:41:23
  Let's see from Mr. Whitney cumming.
• 2:41:27
  I thought they had a sheet. He's coming.
• 2:41:33
  Yes. Yes sir.
• 2:41:34
  I'm here. Okay, tell us what you want us
• 2:41:36
  to know about your friends accurate.
• 2:41:39
  Well, I mean I know that he's when he gets when he does get
• 2:41:42
  out, he has a great support system.
• 2:41:45
  I know his mom, he's gonna be living with his mom way away
• 2:41:49
  from Livingston Parish, which is where the majority of his
• 2:41:51
  troubles were. I'm pretty sure and that that's
• 2:41:56
  going to be the best thing for him is if you know, He lives
• 2:41:59
  with his, you know, his mom and in Metairie and not here in
• 2:42:04
  Livingston and he's gonna do, he's gonna do very, very well.
• 2:42:07
  He's got a really good support system.
• 2:42:09
  Just go around, I will say that much.
• 2:42:12
  That's coming. Thank you, Gleason.
• 2:42:16
  Mother Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am, what do you want us
• 2:42:20
  to know about yourself? My son is a great, man.
• 2:42:23
  I need him home. He needs to be with his son.
• 2:42:26
  He needs to be with me. I'm trying to sell my home and
• 2:42:30
  he, I need him to be here, to fix it up, to get sell it.
• 2:42:35
  So we can move into the country. I will make sure that he
• 2:42:39
  contacts everyone on all the time.
• 2:42:41
  I am I wasn't over the road truck driver, I'm now Regional.
• 2:42:46
  So I am close at home all the time now, so I will be able to
• 2:42:50
  keep a close eye on him. Um, I'd like to teach him about
• 2:42:54
  driving a truck so he can have a career.
• 2:42:59
  And I will make sure he is on his payments and I will help him
• 2:43:03
  with his payments and I will help him with anything he needs.
• 2:43:09
  And he will listen to me this time.
• 2:43:12
  Okay. Okay, greater, I think now.
• 2:43:19
  We're ready to vote. I apologize for that.
• 2:43:21
  I thought y'all have to live. Your chairman or staff, maybe
• 2:43:29
  you could help answer this. I'm reading his I'm reading it
• 2:43:34
  is official rap sheet and it says a fender class zero five.
• 2:43:39
  Is that not mean? He's a 5th right now?
• 2:43:43
  I'm looking at that activity report that says the second what
• 2:43:46
  a fender class are you Mr. Gleason.
• 2:43:49
  How many times you've been convicted of felons?
• 2:43:53
  I did jail time twice. Okay, that's still.
• 2:44:01
  Okay. I don't have his rap sheet.
• 2:44:06
  All right, it said it does say fifth on the master prison
• 2:44:09
  record, Cajun says fifth. Okay, so it must be fit.
• 2:44:13
  The era must be on activity report.
• 2:44:15
  Okay. so, you Corrected me this time.
• 2:44:20
  Okay Mr. Prater I'm glad to have heard his mom.
• 2:44:32
  He said she would, she would would say, we don't want, we
• 2:44:39
  don't want to put him back in jail.
• 2:44:40
  Keep him in jail. We ready to get rid of Okay, but
• 2:44:44
  we ready for him to prove that he can abide by the law.
• 2:44:47
  And I'm this is unusual because I'm talking to the mom more than
• 2:44:50
  him and I'm probably out of order doing that but but it we
• 2:44:56
  got to make sure that he learned his lesson that he's going to
• 2:45:00
  abide by rules. And if you can't abide by
• 2:45:03
  reporting, then you chained by selling dope or shooting
• 2:45:07
  somebody or whatever. And I'm not saying he did that,
• 2:45:10
  okay. But if you can't imagine a small
• 2:45:14
  rooms, you can't buy the big room But if he's going to let me
• 2:45:19
  ask you something, Mr. Lopez, are you going to move in with
• 2:45:22
  your mom? Yes, sir.
• 2:45:24
  Are you gonna spend the nights at your mom's?
• 2:45:29
  Yes, sir. Every night.
• 2:45:30
  Are you going every night? I heard you say just in because
• 2:45:34
  that was a problem. You said, you couldn't spend the
• 2:45:36
  night there every night and all that.
• 2:45:37
  You're gonna spend all the nights there.
• 2:45:39
  At least until you're full-time date and you're off of parole.
• 2:45:43
  Is that correct? Yes, sir.
• 2:45:45
  I will and you don't get a job where you can work around their
• 2:45:49
  correct. Yes, sir.
• 2:45:54
  Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna change my boat then.
• 2:45:58
  And I'm gonna vote to let you out to the care and custody of
• 2:46:01
  your mom. Is that you?
• 2:46:04
  Because I'm counting on your word.
• 2:46:06
  If you buy like the word, I promise you, you know what I'll
• 2:46:08
  do and yes, sir, that's my vote is to give him, give him.
• 2:46:13
  Give him a severe reprimand as much as we can do, and, and
• 2:46:17
  Cindy morning's way. Right.
• 2:46:20
  Thank you for not. You know, I don't think it's up
• 2:46:25
  to his mother to be sure that he follows the rules. so, you know,
• 2:46:30
  he's, he's proven to me that he doesn't really care about him
• 2:46:33
  and and it's true that, you know, he chose to go back to
• 2:46:38
  Livingston Parish when he, you know, I realized he says his son
• 2:46:42
  is there but that's where the trouble is.
• 2:46:46
  He was in a working in Metairie before, you know, I'm just not
• 2:46:50
  convinced that he's ready. To to do what he's supposed to
• 2:46:55
  do. We've established.
• 2:46:56
  He's a fifth felony offender. This isn't his first rodeo.
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  So, my vote today is going to be to revoke his parole.
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• 2:47:17
  And add a special condition that you have electronic monitoring
• 2:47:21
  and or to stay at your mother's house.
• 2:47:25
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  a prayer to vote. Thank you.
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  So Boba. Two to one, Miss Cheryl.
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  You are not revoked and electronic monitoring his added
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  is a Miss Renata who said that it shouldn't be his mother's
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  I would have revoked him myself but he's gonna go free on a
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  To judge Mercer. What they're doing big with his
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  client in private with Miss barfoot and Ms, tracks and tell
• 2:50:12
  me where we stand, please honor, I believe that.
• 2:50:14
  We'll go ahead and call this is bark as well.
• 2:50:17
  Just barfoot, I want to ask you, go ahead and have a seat up here
• 2:50:20
  because I want to make sure that Mr. Mitchell has a chance to see
• 2:50:23
  you in here everything. Well, so if you'll see like like
• 2:50:25
  you done the other Witnesses, do, if you'll stand there, and
• 2:50:27
  let me play center oath and then we'll get you to have a seat
• 2:50:29
  Now, find their You. That's perfect.
• 2:50:39
  Come on around have seed, if you will just make yourself
• 2:50:41
  comfortable now. And your attorney Mr. Jackson
• 2:50:46
  will ask you a question first. Okay, Mrs. Barfoot.
• 2:50:51
  Do you recall an incident on June 28th 2025 specifically what
• 2:50:57
  they're talking about? Yes, just because it's being
• 2:51:00
  talked about. Okay, tell me kind of what your
• 2:51:02
  side of the story is on that. What must this year, and I were
• 2:51:07
  arguing about my mom, my mom's in poor health and they want to
• 2:51:10
  bring her to take this. And I don't want to go to Texas.
• 2:51:12
  So, That's okay. And I was taking my trash out
• 2:51:17
  and according to Joe Something else happened.
• 2:51:21
  Okay. Um, and how do you, where are
• 2:51:26
  you talking on the phone? Yes, that's how do you usually
• 2:51:28
  talk on the phone? But my earbud in, and my phone
• 2:51:31
  right back. Pocket is right handed.
• 2:51:34
  Okay. And were you using your earbud
• 2:51:38
  when you were taking your trash out?
• 2:51:41
  Okay. Always use it.
• 2:51:43
  Always use it. Okay.
• 2:51:45
  Um and so, were you focused on Mrs?
• 2:51:48
  Norton at all. No, I was having an argument
• 2:51:51
  with my sister in Texas. Okay.
• 2:51:53
  All right. What about on July?
• 2:51:56
  4th. That's a holiday.
• 2:51:57
  Okay y'all we all have like a get-together and everybody's at
• 2:52:02
  your house. Yes.
• 2:52:03
  My daughter and her husband came over to have supper with us or
• 2:52:06
  lunch lunch. Late afternoon meal.
• 2:52:08
  Okay, did you and your daughter have a little tiff that day?
• 2:52:12
  Yes. Okay.
• 2:52:13
  Do you remember what that was about?
• 2:52:15
  I don't remember what it was about.
• 2:52:17
  They just family stuff. It's really not anybody's
• 2:52:20
  business, family stuff, okay? And whenever she left her house,
• 2:52:26
  did you follow your daughter outside?
• 2:52:29
  We were talking and first, she forgot something.
• 2:52:33
  I had to bring it to her. And then when she came back,
• 2:52:35
  yes, we were talking, okay. And during this time did you
• 2:52:39
  make this? We're you upset, let me ask you
• 2:52:42
  that. Yes.
• 2:52:42
  Okay. And did you make the statements
• 2:52:44
  about the rats and snakes and everything else?
• 2:52:48
  Yes, that's nice because the grass is so high.
• 2:52:52
  Was that I was that directed at Your daughter or Mrs. Norton,
• 2:52:59
  I'm talking on the phone with my daughter, okay.
• 2:53:01
  Are talking to my daughter but the thing is I don't understand
• 2:53:07
  this right here. Joan follows us around from
• 2:53:10
  front yard to the backyard or her side yard to her backyard
• 2:53:12
  recording everything. I understand.
• 2:53:15
  But everything in my life and my mother's love and answer his
• 2:53:20
  questions. Yes, your question you answered
• 2:53:23
  talk to your daughter. Yes, sir.
• 2:53:25
  Okay. One of that was directed at Mrs.
• 2:53:29
  Norton. Correct.
• 2:53:30
  Correct. It was not corrected at her.
• 2:53:32
  All right. Um, We're even prior to July
• 2:53:38
  26th, which I believe is when Mr. Hollis had made contact with
• 2:53:43
  you, were even aware of the camera, making any noises or
• 2:53:47
  anything. No.
• 2:53:48
  Because I don't have anything to do that camera.
• 2:53:49
  Okay. Do you, how do you work the
• 2:53:52
  mechanisms of those cameras? It's attached to my husband's
• 2:53:55
  phone. My daughter, said it up to work
• 2:53:57
  on his phone. Okay?
• 2:53:58
  But that camera's been broke since that incident, he broke it
• 2:54:02
  delivery after that, okay? All rights of all this drama.
• 2:54:06
  Yes, sir. All right.
• 2:54:08
  And what about But you didn't hang that up.
• 2:54:12
  No, you don't care. When I moved there you got you.
• 2:54:15
  You don't have any connection with the workings of that
• 2:54:17
  camera. All right.
• 2:54:18
  What about on? And there's another camera too.
• 2:54:21
  It's on the other the other outbuilding but it faces this
• 2:54:25
  side of our house. So so both sides of the house
• 2:54:27
  are covers. What he said?
• 2:54:29
  That's not facing Mrs. Norton's side.
• 2:54:31
  Is that right? And then, on July 26th 2025
• 2:54:36
  talking about the spot Spotlight incident.
• 2:54:38
  Did you put that Spotlight there?
• 2:54:40
  I would have no reason for this Spotlight there.
• 2:54:42
  Okay, no. Okay.
• 2:54:46
  And if you didn't put it there, do you have any idea who did
• 2:54:48
  Jimmy did Jimmy? Is who my husband?
• 2:54:51
  Okay. Did you direct Jimmy to put
• 2:54:54
  there? Okay.
• 2:54:55
  Do you know if he had any reason to do that, or Well, every time
• 2:55:02
  like coming to our yard we could see a bull shining and if you're
• 2:55:05
  looking at, it looks like a shine right?
• 2:55:08
  At you. I mentioned it to him that she
• 2:55:11
  had a spotlight shining on us, okay?
• 2:55:13
  Okay. And So, as far as these issues
• 2:55:19
  goes June, 28th, July 4th, June July, 8th and July 26th.
• 2:55:25
  You never directing anything to Mrs. Norton.
• 2:55:28
  Directly or indirectly know, okay.
• 2:55:31
  Has there since been a fence put up?
• 2:55:34
  Yes. Without the Privacy fans and
• 2:55:37
  it's double wild. Double thick is very expensive.
• 2:55:40
  So that I can't see her if she can't see me.
• 2:55:42
  Okay. Um, and That was kind of a
• 2:55:46
  process, it took a while, but it's my husband's elderly, okay?
• 2:55:50
  So your husband put that up, okay, you're up on my
• 2:55:54
  son-in-law, I'm sorry. Okay, you didn't help that at
• 2:55:56
  all. I was not allowed out there.
• 2:55:58
  Okay? And that was because my husband
• 2:56:00
  away from the fans. You don't want me anywhere near
• 2:56:04
  her. Okay, talking to her anything.
• 2:56:06
  All right, because I don't want to go to jail.
• 2:56:07
  All right, thank you, Mr. Mitchell yes, sir.
• 2:56:15
  So you said on June 28th 2025 you were on the phone with your
• 2:56:20
  sister. He just was saying it was
• 2:56:28
  regarding the statement. You got them bitch I'm the one
• 2:56:32
  that fought in the War. That's me.
• 2:56:34
  My sister is so you were speaking to your sister.
• 2:56:38
  Is that a good way to speak to your sister?
• 2:56:39
  Is there? That's not for you to judge.
• 2:56:41
  I'm asking the questions here. Is that a good way to ask to
• 2:56:45
  speak to your sister? My sister, and I have a stranger
• 2:56:47
  relationship. We talk talk to each other, like
• 2:56:50
  that. With Norton came up here and
• 2:56:55
  testified that as that was being said, you were staring in her
• 2:56:57
  Direction. I was so not to look in that
• 2:57:00
  direction. That's why we built a fence and
• 2:57:03
  yet, according to her testimony, you still was looking at that
• 2:57:06
  and saying that well like I was saying I'll go anywhere.
• 2:57:08
  I go in my yard. Miss Norton.
• 2:57:10
  Is there with a camera doing this?
• 2:57:11
  So yes, she probably got me looking.
• 2:57:14
  What am I supposed to do? I'm in my backyard.
• 2:57:16
  You were here when you heard her testify, That.
• 2:57:23
  He threatened to kill her at one point.
• 2:57:26
  I was here. It's beyond the scope of the
• 2:57:29
  complaint. Yeah I mean I would relevance on
• 2:57:31
  that this is that's something prior to the injunction.
• 2:57:34
  This is something unfortunately injunction that Miss Norton
• 2:57:36
  testified to. So how is it relevant?
• 2:57:39
  And I know she was an objection time, she testified but I was
• 2:57:43
  waiting for one, how is that relevant to whether she violated
• 2:57:46
  and Junction later? How is the statement from May or
• 2:57:51
  its relative to answer to basically say why she recording
• 2:57:56
  and all these situations out in the yard because she is scared
• 2:57:59
  of his part. But based on previous Center
• 2:58:01
  actions and statements that have been made and that was
• 2:58:03
  irrelevant. That was she scared or not, it's
• 2:58:05
  not relevant whether she injunction, it's the question.
• 2:58:08
  So I think that's about the objections sustained.
• 2:58:10
  The objection, I would have sustained objection earlier.
• 2:58:12
  Had there been objection during the break when you were
• 2:58:14
  questioning asking all the questions about things before
• 2:58:17
  the injunction she's not accused of those things but go ahead and
• 2:58:20
  please do next question. Mr. Mitchell You received.
• 2:58:26
  You received a serve a copy of the injunction, correct?
• 2:58:30
  Yes. And you acknowledged it I'm
• 2:58:33
  sorry and you acknowledged that there was an active in Junction.
• 2:58:36
  Yes I had this on the paper. Yes, sir!
• 2:58:38
  Okay, yeah and that I volunteered for all that you
• 2:58:44
  just try to put her Ace Joan and I used to be friends.
• 2:58:48
  We had good relationship used to be friends and I wanted to
• 2:58:52
  apply. I did apologize to her judge
• 2:58:54
  Garcia. Let me apologize to her right
• 2:58:56
  here in court. You said you used to be friends?
• 2:58:58
  Yes. Why are you not friends anymore?
• 2:59:00
  Because of the Cincinnati. All this incident.
• 2:59:03
  Sure, there's nothing else. This is all getting here.
• 2:59:06
  I don't know what. Yeah, this has nothing.
• 2:59:09
  I don't know what the fans had nothing to do with the Mr.
• 2:59:12
  Mitchell, next question. so, the spotlight Why your husband put
• 2:59:22
  the spotlight out? I didn't say that he did but I
• 2:59:25
  don't know, actually, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 2:59:30
  I said I didn't know. Did your husband do you said
• 2:59:33
  your husband? Oh, excuse me.
• 2:59:34
  I'm sorry. Do you know why your husband did
• 2:59:37
  that? No.
• 2:59:38
  Do you know the purpose of that Spotlight?
• 2:59:42
  Objection asked and answered Our purpose.
• 2:59:50
  But you were aware of the spotlight.
• 2:59:52
  Yes, one of the officer came to the house.
• 2:59:54
  Yes. And you were aware of The
• 2:59:57
  direction. It was facing.
• 2:59:59
  He said which way was facing? Yes sir.
• 3:00:01
  I didn't ask about him. I was about you.
• 3:00:03
  You were aware. I'm going by what the officer
• 3:00:06
  told me sir. I don't know anything about that
• 3:00:08
  Spotlight. So But you knew the spotlight
• 3:00:14
  was there. I'm asking you, you know, the
• 3:00:19
  spotlight question again or what?
• 3:00:20
  And you just, you don't play lawyer, just answer his
• 3:00:23
  questions. If there's objection, you've got
• 3:00:25
  a great lawyer there. He'll make objection answer the
• 3:00:27
  question if you can. Do you know the answer?
• 3:00:28
  Yes, sir. Answer the question.
• 3:00:30
  The question was what? Did you know the spotlight was
• 3:00:37
  there? Yes, sir.
• 3:00:38
  And you spoke was Sergeant Halls about it.
• 3:00:42
  He spoke to me about it. Yes, okay.
• 3:00:44
  So you became aware of the spotlight.
• 3:00:46
  After you spoke was our homeless.
• 3:00:47
  Yes, did the spotlight come down after that?
• 3:00:51
  I'm not sure. You're not sure.
• 3:00:53
  I didn't take it down when they come that.
• 3:00:56
  I have no idea. It wasn't very important to me.
• 3:01:05
  But you were aware in the direction and angle it was
• 3:01:08
  facing. From what the officer said.
• 3:01:12
  Yes, you are aware. It was facing this Norton's
• 3:01:14
  house. yes, and even despite Knowing this.
• 3:01:20
  I didn't put a spotlight there. Wasn't careful.
• 3:01:24
  And even despite all this you didn't take any measures to get
• 3:01:29
  that Spotlight down after it was brought to your attention.
• 3:01:32
  That's correct. So, the snakes and rats.
• 3:01:44
  Statement. Yes, sir.
• 3:01:46
  You mentioned, you said that because the grass was so high.
• 3:01:51
  She mowed all of her yard except for this part, like about this
• 3:01:56
  big of a strip all the way down, and it was up against our yard.
• 3:02:00
  It's her property line, but it's also jimmies property line.
• 3:02:03
  And she let that grass grow this tall.
• 3:02:06
  And she wasn't gonna move it anyway.
• 3:02:08
  I was telling my daughter, we're going to have snakes and reds
• 3:02:11
  snakes, and rest. We're gonna have snakes and
• 3:02:12
  rest. So thought about that, And was
• 3:02:19
  it directed at Ms? Norton?
• 3:02:21
  I didn't even see. Ms, Norton out there.
• 3:02:23
  We never see her out there. She catches everything on camera
• 3:02:27
  and then reviews it all day long until she has to do.
• 3:02:30
  That's not what you just said earlier.
• 3:02:32
  You said you see her all the time recording in your yard.
• 3:02:35
  So yeah, when she's out there with the camera, we're here.
• 3:02:38
  But but you were normally we don't go out when you know,
• 3:02:41
  we're outside and we're doing our thing, we don't know.
• 3:02:44
  She's out there, she don't make no noise.
• 3:02:49
  But she's always recording stuff.
• 3:02:51
  That's evidence in that book. She gave me called her journal.
• 3:02:56
  I'm trying to figure out why I'm being called a stalker when
• 3:02:58
  she's the one, stop talking. Recording, my whole family.
• 3:03:02
  Would you agree to have an active and Junction against you?
• 3:03:05
  Yes, in my stupidity. I didn't not know.
• 3:03:09
  I don't know, despite all that you want to understand the
• 3:03:11
  consequences. Yes, sir I do.
• 3:03:14
  And you could see how a spotlight shining through Ms,
• 3:03:19
  Norton's Windows could be. Contacted her indirectly.
• 3:03:22
  It didn't affect me because I didn't put it up there.
• 3:03:25
  Still on your property. It's not my property as my
• 3:03:28
  husband's property but you live with your husband.
• 3:03:30
  Yes, you live in the house. Yes, you're correct.
• 3:03:34
  So it's joint property. Yes, sir.
• 3:03:40
  Me all my questions, right? Thank you.
• 3:03:42
  Any redirect you stated that there was a spotlight shining
• 3:03:47
  into your yard as well. Yes.
• 3:03:49
  Okay but the officer looked at and said it wouldn't have
• 3:03:53
  Spotlight. Okay?
• 3:03:54
  Thank you. We thought it was all right.
• 3:03:56
  Um And again, you didn't have anything to do with that
• 3:04:01
  Spotlight, you know, about, until the officer brought up to
• 3:04:04
  your attention, okay? And so, did you feel like you
• 3:04:08
  had any obligation? Take it down?
• 3:04:10
  Do you think that, he, maybe should have been talking to
• 3:04:12
  Jimmy Carter? Okay.
• 3:04:14
  All right. You're not thinking.
• 3:04:16
  That's all the questions I have. Thank you very much for your
• 3:04:20
  time and testimony and have just like have free free cross.
• 3:04:24
  I want to take a look at just No other questions.
• 3:04:40
  Next year. Attorney ma'am.
• 3:04:41
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 3:04:44
  The witness the tracks. I'm sorry.
• 3:04:45
  Anything else from the state that was her.
• 3:04:48
  All right, so and, So I want to hear closed during this, I'm
• 3:05:02
  gonna try to limit them for you both.
• 3:05:03
  All right, so I'm not going to find that she improving the case
• 3:05:08
  Beyond a product Beyond A Reasonable Doubt for the June
• 3:05:10
  28th. It's then her explanation is at
• 3:05:15
  least somewhat reasonable. There's there is reasonable
• 3:05:18
  doubt on the June 28th incident. The that's the one with the
• 3:05:21
  legislative the phone call with her sister.
• 3:05:25
  The snakes and rats incident. I want to hear that portion of
• 3:05:29
  the DVD. Again, only the audio portion I
• 3:05:33
  couldn't hear hardly anything. The first time I made a note,
• 3:05:35
  almost she useless on that DVD but almost means I'm hurt
• 3:05:40
  something. So can we play that part again?
• 3:05:43
  Because I may want to do some talk about that, in closing?
• 3:05:46
  Yes, while you're looking that up I do want to hear you on the
• 3:05:50
  lightning if the state's proven their case, that's going to be
• 3:05:54
  Strongest. Argument and the July 8th and
• 3:05:59
  what the cameras, the talking cameras, the states, not proven
• 3:06:03
  their case. So there's just not enough
• 3:06:05
  evidence there so we've limited it down to two dates that
• 3:06:08
  Mother's probably one day. So if you'll play State's
• 3:06:11
  Exhibit C, The portion with the audio part, I don't need to see
• 3:06:16
  the whole thing. Again, it's about the halfway
• 3:06:18
  point. I think it's when it comes in
• 3:06:19
  classes, you can get please. And we'll turn the volume up is
• 3:06:23
  as high as we can get it, please.
• 3:06:24
  So, we can see and hear it. And then, once we do that, I'd
• 3:06:27
  be glad to listen to close. An arguments from both the state
• 3:06:29
  and defense. That's the entire portion.
• 3:07:31
  Thank you Mr. Mitchell you can produce these talk about
• 3:07:35
  anything you want in the closing argument, I'm just telling you
• 3:07:36
  that I'm gonna have a really hard time finding that you
• 3:07:39
  proving your case on those other two dates, I really am
• 3:07:41
  interested in primarily in the two days remaining, which would
• 3:07:44
  be July the 4th and July 26th Mr. Mitchell and also
• 3:07:54
  specifically the other question I'm going to have Is the
• 3:07:57
  specific subject you chose to file under.
• 3:08:00
  Because that requires communication and how you if you
• 3:08:03
  is that that's communicating rather those dates, okay?
• 3:08:09
  Well specifically, it requires contacting or otherwise
• 3:08:12
  communicate I got you. All right, so you're a state
• 3:08:17
  presented evidence. Regarding the July 4th incident
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  which we just reviewed again which was the snakes and rats
• 3:08:24
  incident. I know we heard the Miss
• 3:08:27
  barfoot, take the stand and she tried to say that the stakes and
• 3:08:31
  rats was a result of Mr. Norton's, grass being very high
• 3:08:37
  and that as a result snakes and rats could be there.
• 3:08:39
  The problem is with that statement is that it's in
• 3:08:44
  conjunction with. I hope you know, the Lord snakes
• 3:08:47
  and rats. There's no correlation when it
• 3:08:50
  comes to the grass being high and the fact that she's
• 3:08:53
  conjoining that with I hope you know the Lord, we heard
• 3:08:57
  testimony from Mr. Norton. That as this was happening, the
• 3:09:01
  car was being pulled out. There was nobody else in the
• 3:09:03
  yard. So Sheet, and she was looking
• 3:09:08
  and facing Ms, Norton, as that was happening, and she was
• 3:09:12
  saying this and Ms, Norton, testified?
• 3:09:15
  That, that is what she heard. She recognized Ms, Sparks voice,
• 3:09:19
  as it comes to that. We would say that we approve and
• 3:09:22
  Beyond a reasonable doubt that this is Khan.
• 3:09:26
  This is contact according to miss Norton.
• 3:09:29
  This is direct contact and her situation.
• 3:09:32
  This far, put my try to say that this is indirect, but regardless
• 3:09:36
  of whichever, it may be, this is contact nonetheless, which is in
• 3:09:40
  violation of the injunction, as for July 26th.
• 3:09:45
  I know the court just basically said that there was, you know,
• 3:09:51
  How can that be considered contact when it comes to this?
• 3:09:54
  We would actually say that this is circumstantial evidence to
• 3:09:58
  show that, you know, Miss barfoot is intending to have
• 3:10:03
  contact. And, you know, the reason we say
• 3:10:06
  it's circumstantial to show intent to have contact directly
• 3:10:10
  is the light is shining directly into Ms. Norton's Windows.
• 3:10:16
  It serves no other purpose than the shine directly into the
• 3:10:20
  window. We saw video today that shows
• 3:10:22
  the Spotlight State on even during the day serving, no
• 3:10:28
  purpose at all. And this was after the July 4th
• 3:10:33
  and other incidents. But I know you want to focus
• 3:10:35
  mainly on the July 4th incident. Mr. Ms, barfoot was made aware
• 3:10:40
  of this and Miss Norton testified that even after The
• 3:10:46
  Spar foot was still made aware and the positioning and angle of
• 3:10:49
  the spotlight in conjunction. She still did nothing about it.
• 3:10:54
  She testified to such as she took the stand.
• 3:10:56
  She didn't try to remedy it. She tried to say it was.
• 3:10:59
  My husband making that decision but she was aware and she still
• 3:11:04
  kept it up for that purpose of indirectly contacting Mr.
• 3:11:09
  Norton. We've made, we were mainly
• 3:11:13
  focusing on, you know, this being in conjunction with the
• 3:11:17
  other moments to show that this wasn't just an accident of
• 3:11:20
  indirectly or directly contacted.
• 3:11:23
  This was intentional, this was Will on behalf of Miss Bartlett.
• 3:11:28
  And we would say that based on the evidence presented and the
• 3:11:32
  testimony has been presented and that's only those even been
• 3:11:37
  Contradicted at times, we would say that the state has proven
• 3:11:41
  this case Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and request a vertical of
• 3:11:44
  guilty as charged. Thank you, Mr. Excellent, I
• 3:11:53
  believe that this is our foot got up there and testified that
• 3:11:56
  she was talking to her daughter. The entire Time.
• 3:11:58
  She's directing her her contact to her daughter.
• 3:12:01
  Now whether it was about Northern at the time to talk
• 3:12:05
  about, well, she didn't know grass, or they were in a tiff or
• 3:12:07
  whatever it did seem like she was upset talking about the
• 3:12:10
  snakes and rats, and I don't know if there was fuel to the
• 3:12:13
  fire coming from everywhere, but she was directing that contact
• 3:12:16
  towards her daughter and has a matter of fact, if you look at
• 3:12:20
  the journal on the July, 4th 2025 and stamp of Mrs, Norton
• 3:12:24
  this is on page, 14. It States Marine saw me then
• 3:12:28
  turns back to the car as a backed out and started yelling
• 3:12:31
  things. She was apparently pretending to
• 3:12:34
  yell out to the audience of the car, but was young to me.
• 3:12:37
  So, based on her perception, not her opinion.
• 3:12:41
  But her perception. Marlene barfoot wasn't even
• 3:12:44
  facing this morning. She was yelling at the car now.
• 3:12:47
  She assumed that she was trying to direct that contact with her
• 3:12:52
  but that's just a statement of operation sensitivity that oh I
• 3:12:56
  got this injunction against me so everything.
• 3:12:58
  Is Marvin Barefoot does that must be it me and so July 4th,
• 3:13:03
  2025 incident has not been proven, not only by my clients
• 3:13:08
  testimony but also by the Journal.
• 3:13:10
  The July 26th incident. I like in that more to the July
• 3:13:16
  8th, 2025 incident and that both of the observations that this is
• 3:13:20
  Norton had seen were based on the mechanical objects, the
• 3:13:24
  camera that Mrs Marlene didn't have anything to do with the
• 3:13:27
  spotlight and this is Marley didn't have anything to do with
• 3:13:30
  and Mrs. She testified Mr. Jimmy Buffett on that up there.
• 3:13:34
  What the reason was? I don't know.
• 3:13:36
  However, it's not intentional, it's a willful violation.
• 3:13:40
  So if Mrs barfoot at absolutely nothing, to do with anything
• 3:13:44
  that happened with the spotlight, how could she have
• 3:13:46
  the her intent be willfully. Violate I mean, I just don't see
• 3:13:50
  how it the direction should have been at Mr. Berkeley not Mrs.
• 3:13:55
  Barkley, she wanted to stay out of that.
• 3:13:56
  It's if they told Mr. Barkley's, take it down then, and he didn't
• 3:14:01
  do it. That was on him long for sure.
• 3:14:03
  Take it down. But even by that testimony, it
• 3:14:06
  appears that Mrs. Barkley has stated that that was the same
• 3:14:09
  thing that Mrs, Norton was doing towards her.
• 3:14:12
  So it to me this seems like it's set for that sort of thing.
• 3:14:15
  You honor it in that scenario, she signed.
• 3:14:18
  This is Norton. Shines it on their house.
• 3:14:21
  Mr. Jimmy gets upset start trying to Spotlight on her house
• 3:14:26
  and this is Marlene barfoot by her.
• 3:14:28
  Testimony had nothing to do with any of that.
• 3:14:30
  And So, based on the evidence, the state has presented, I don't
• 3:14:35
  believe they've proven their case Beyond Reasonable Doubt,
• 3:14:38
  ask for a verdict of guilty, okay, thank you.
• 3:14:42
  So, I want to find the state is not proven their burden as it
• 3:14:46
  relates to two days for sure, June 28th, and July 2.
• 3:14:52
  She's been July 8th. as it relates to July, 4th That was a
• 3:14:58
  lot closer case. The general also says Mr.
• 3:15:00
  Actions, quoted the portion of the Diary three different times
• 3:15:04
  but he always lays out the next sentence which says, They kept
• 3:15:13
  backing out their car and drove all after they drive away, she
• 3:15:17
  kept on Yelling. So her diary says, after they
• 3:15:20
  drove all she kept yelling and I did hear I could hear her say
• 3:15:23
  the word Lord and I could hear snakes and rats.
• 3:15:27
  For the biggest problem I have with defenses version is a
• 3:15:31
  spotlight. The spotlight with intentional
• 3:15:34
  The only question is two questions are number one, she
• 3:15:37
  have a role in that. And number two, does that
• 3:15:41
  Spotlight violate Florida, statute, 784.047 subsection for
• 3:15:47
  a 4. and I find, Sergeant Hollister. testimony to be very
• 3:15:53
  important because he said, when he confronted her she said, I
• 3:16:01
  quote, it was her Spotlight and it was in her yard and she
• 3:16:05
  didn't see any harm in it. So her I find her testimony be
• 3:16:10
  not credible and here's why she was entirely inconsistent.
• 3:16:13
  She first said that her husband and she had a conversation about
• 3:16:17
  it before a Ford Spotlight was put up.
• 3:16:20
  Because she bought his attention that the other lady alleged
• 3:16:22
  victim, had a spotlight. All right?
• 3:16:24
  A lot of sometimes And then she later on during cross
• 3:16:28
  examination, said she didn't even know he put the spotlight
• 3:16:30
  up. Well, you can't have it both
• 3:16:32
  ways either, you have the conversation, you know, his
• 3:16:34
  spot. I put up or you didn't, I don't
• 3:16:36
  believe her testimony. I felt like she was less than
• 3:16:39
  incredible. I found Sergeant Hollis, is
• 3:16:41
  testimony to be very credible. something that she had a role in
• 3:16:47
  putting a spotlight up and having a spotlight put up and
• 3:16:50
  that is a direct violation of the of the courts order that is
• 3:16:55
  certainly Contact with the petitioner and then it's further
• 3:17:03
  my belief my lean towards thinking that's proven Beyond A
• 3:17:07
  Reasonable Doubt is strengthened by the fact that it's left up
• 3:17:09
  all day and all night or at least all night.
• 3:17:12
  Not perhaps all day and that's proven by video the next
• 3:17:15
  morning, So I had it been me and my husband really had a lot of
• 3:17:19
  and the sergeant came and said, you need to take that down.
• 3:17:22
  It their house and my husband wouldn't take it down.
• 3:17:25
  I would have left for, I took a chance on being accused of
• 3:17:29
  violating the law. I don't think none of that
• 3:17:31
  happened. I think it would just make a
• 3:17:33
  point. She was making a point that she
• 3:17:35
  could do what she wanted to, so I think the others are Marshal
• 3:17:37
  but I'm gonna find this state has proven their case Beyond A
• 3:17:40
  Reasonable Doubt specifically as it applies to the spotlight.
• 3:17:44
  Having said that? I am I'm comforted and
• 3:17:48
  encouraged by the fence, and I think that's going to play a
• 3:17:50
  role in sentencing on where we where we go from here. so, I'm
• 3:17:57
  finding a guilty, the founding States proven their case
• 3:17:59
  primarily because of the, I don't think there's any
• 3:18:02
  reasonable doubt that she was Had put that Spotlight up or
• 3:18:08
  participate in this Spotlight or participate in not taking it
• 3:18:11
  Down based upon the reasons I've already said.
• 3:18:14
  Given that. What's your requests, suggestion
• 3:18:19
  sentence, and you go ahead and deal with sentencing.
• 3:18:21
  Now at this point, or do you have something else based on our
• 3:18:35
  conversations, when your dad was here?
• 3:18:36
  My impression was, this was the stronger case.
• 3:18:39
  Is that case going to be dismissed, and lot of the
• 3:18:41
  verdict today, and light of the verdict today, and in light of
• 3:18:44
  her being sentenced, for the case today, the state will go
• 3:18:47
  ahead and just miss case. Number two, five five six.
• 3:18:50
  One ml on the right. You don't know what is going to
• 3:18:52
  be, but you still confident actually living but I might put
• 3:18:58
  on probation. I don't know.
• 3:18:58
  Yeah, my main concern is continuing the status quo.
• 3:19:02
  If everything is good. So let's just wait and see.
• 3:19:05
  So I think that what happens, it's like maybe dismissing that
• 3:19:08
  charge Mr. Strikes. Well, no.
• 3:19:21
  So, you know, you want to yeah? I like to go forward on my
• 3:19:31
  hearing and what states, do they have to see your preference?
• 3:19:34
  It would be to try the case for October and then proceeded to
• 3:19:37
  sentencing if she's convicted to that, forget it state will
• 3:19:41
  dismiss 2561 a.m., okay? That that's logical given that
• 3:19:45
  you made me and Mr. Kuryakyn aware when you all chose to
• 3:19:49
  schedule. This, you told us in court that
• 3:19:51
  was the weaker case and I actually did not revoke her
• 3:19:54
  bond, because I had a case appeared, pretty fragile for
• 3:19:57
  lack of a better term. Okay, so that case is being
• 3:20:00
  dismissed that leads us to see in this case, and I've heard,
• 3:20:04
  I've heard from the defendant about the fence and everything.
• 3:20:08
  What I've not heard is from the alleged victim about the current
• 3:20:12
  status of things, I do know just from reading the file that there
• 3:20:17
  was a request to extend the injunction that judge Garcia
• 3:20:20
  heard and she denied What? I don't know is Miss Norton's
• 3:20:24
  position on whether things have calmed down and whether the
• 3:20:26
  fence has fixed the problem or problems, So do you want me to
• 3:20:30
  hear from the state? Would you like today for Miss
• 3:20:32
  Norton? Before I hear from Mr. Jackson
• 3:20:34
  and his client on sentence. I think Miss Norman would like
• 3:20:36
  to speak to you personally have the right.
• 3:20:39
  If you like to speak, you need to come up here ma'am, so that
• 3:20:41
  we can make sure everyone can hear you and Mr. Mitchell or Mr.
• 3:20:44
  X and may have some questions for you. so, miss Thornton Miss
• 3:20:56
  Miss barfoot testified that the fence have been put up and
• 3:20:59
  basically she had apologized and she's giving the impression that
• 3:21:02
  things are better. Is that accurate from your
• 3:21:04
  perception? No sir.
• 3:21:06
  Tell me what. Why is it not accurate?
• 3:21:07
  What's happened things have? Things have content.
• 3:21:11
  Had just continued from From the end of July, things have just
• 3:21:18
  stayed steady. Let me be clear in my question.
• 3:21:21
  I'm gonna be more clear. My question since the fence was
• 3:21:24
  put up. I don't, how has it?
• 3:21:26
  How's it continuous? Since the fence was put up, or
• 3:21:29
  did the fence fix the problem, the fence is not completed.
• 3:21:32
  The fence is maybe two thirds of the white.
• 3:21:36
  Finish along your joint property line.
• 3:21:38
  It doesn't cover the whole property line.
• 3:21:40
  No, it does not I have a picture of it on my phone from yesterday
• 3:21:44
  and there's areas where there's just blue tarps.
• 3:21:51
  And there's enough pathway through the, the brown. the
• 3:21:59
  barns what I call it but garage, I guess on her property that
• 3:22:05
  between that that building in my fence is probably about As my
• 3:22:11
  chain LinkedIn is still up that divides, our properties, they
• 3:22:15
  just built the security, the wooden fence on the on their
• 3:22:20
  side, on their side, the chain link, right?
• 3:22:22
  But there's enough room that, you know, people can walk back
• 3:22:27
  and forth between their barn and my fence.
• 3:22:31
  And then you know, there's the the barn And then like from
• 3:22:38
  here, to the end of the fence line is a blue tarp.
• 3:22:42
  And then from the other side of the barn to where they decided
• 3:22:46
  to stop, their Building on the fence, there's another large
• 3:22:50
  Blue tarp. That's just Hanging hanging
• 3:22:54
  there. Mr. Starting.
• 3:22:55
  Since the last time, this part was arrested.
• 3:22:58
  The second arrest. She said in jail a few days and
• 3:23:01
  then we had a hearing and I didn't revoke her bond since
• 3:23:05
  that time as she contacted you at any way.
• 3:23:16
  It's not a complicated trick question.
• 3:23:19
  It's really simple either since she was arrested the last time.
• 3:23:22
  Has she contacted you? That's a simple question.
• 3:23:25
  You would notice. I, I don't think so.
• 3:23:27
  Okay, Mr. Mitchell, you have any questions for Ms, Norton?
• 3:23:31
  And Ms. Norton. You understand that per
• 3:23:36
  stipulation, she can't go to jail as a result of this
• 3:23:38
  sentence. You understand that correct?
• 3:23:39
  Yes, sir. Is there any type of conditions
• 3:23:42
  you would want her to have as a part of her probation?
• 3:23:48
  And you understand the judge will make the final
• 3:23:51
  determination, but you can recommend it and he can take
• 3:23:55
  that into account. I would I would like to not
• 3:23:59
  have. contact, I don't this is taking up a long time and I just
• 3:24:08
  I like not to have any more contact at all and I don't know.
• 3:24:13
  Correct, right. Okay.
• 3:24:15
  Any other conditions that you're requesting?
• 3:24:21
  I don't think the fence will help the problem because all
• 3:24:25
  she'll do now is just stand on the other side and yell this,
• 3:24:28
  this won't end you. It'll happen again.
• 3:24:31
  I know it will but I think that. Alcohol is a big factor and
• 3:24:39
  things I think. Is there a reason you didn't
• 3:24:43
  when you may have but there's no testimony of it.
• 3:24:45
  There was testimony. That Sergeant Harless suggested
• 3:24:47
  to you to get a body camera. You could order one off the
• 3:24:49
  internet and so doing that we had a very Poor.
• 3:24:55
  Cell camera photo of a ground and a garbage can.
• 3:24:57
  Is there a reason you didn't follow that advice if I did get
• 3:25:01
  a body camera and so tell me, have you used that?
• 3:25:05
  I've used it. I've tried to use it.
• 3:25:11
  Just clip on your shirt or something.
• 3:25:12
  I don't know how it works. Yes, but I've got it now and I
• 3:25:17
  know how to use it now. But um, you know, I do have that
• 3:25:21
  after most of this had already happened well, I just admit this
• 3:25:27
  but I I'm on a budget. That's more than tight.
• 3:25:30
  And I had to wait till I could afford it.
• 3:25:32
  I understand. I've got four children.
• 3:25:34
  I can understand that I get paid tonight at midnight.
• 3:25:39
  And I can take exactly. So I can understand.
• 3:25:42
  I don't want, I just don't want this kind of thing.
• 3:25:45
  I can't, I can't take it, okay. Is there anything else that I
• 3:25:49
  haven't asked you that, you want to make sure I know about
• 3:25:51
  because this is your last chance to tell me something.
• 3:25:53
  If it's important you to tell me now, judge, would you like to
• 3:25:57
  see a picture of what she's talking about with the fence?
• 3:26:01
  I did send him a picture of the fence.
• 3:26:03
  Yeah. But um, Yeah, I'm afraid.
• 3:26:11
  I'm afraid of her. She gets so far out when she
• 3:26:19
  gets. out there that it's scary. Do you understand that Santa
• 3:26:25
  condition of every probation? If I put on probation, she can't
• 3:26:28
  possessing my alcohol. You know, that I didn't know
• 3:26:32
  anything about that. Every probation case in Jackson
• 3:26:34
  County That's a misdemeanor probation.
• 3:26:37
  They can't alcohol. So I'm that's that's a standard.
• 3:26:40
  If I put on probation, anything else that you want to tell me?
• 3:26:45
  Mr. Mitchell any other specific question?
• 3:26:46
  You'd like to ask her. So you said that you wanted her
• 3:26:51
  to get help without alcohol. Is that correct?
• 3:26:53
  That definitely, I can't do that.
• 3:26:56
  Yeah, there's zero testimony. The alcohol was involved in
• 3:26:58
  this. I can't order alcohol as a
• 3:27:00
  condition other than no alcohol. I understand.
• 3:27:03
  Yeah, no other questions. Any questions for the witness?
• 3:27:06
  Thank you very much Mr. Appreciate your time.
• 3:27:08
  Any other anybody else you may hear from him.
• 3:27:10
  Anything else from the state. Mr. What is the state asking,
• 3:27:13
  the state is asking for what's been the offer from the very
• 3:27:17
  beginning, which is one year, probation with the standard
• 3:27:21
  conditions that come with probation, no contact with Miss
• 3:27:26
  Norton. Is it safe to send that that
• 3:27:28
  Miss has no power criminal history?
• 3:27:31
  She had one prior DUI. I think it was like, 10 years
• 3:27:35
  ago or something like that, but that's, that's it.
• 3:27:38
  I normally would not consider non-reporting probation.
• 3:27:43
  I am considering that possibility in this situation.
• 3:27:47
  With a condition obviously have no contact, no alcohol.
• 3:27:49
  What's the state's position or thoughts about non-reporting
• 3:27:54
  probation? And I'm not saying one do that.
• 3:27:57
  I'm just saying that's one of the things that's called through
• 3:27:59
  my mind. Box.
• 3:28:03
  And I did not reporting for a certain period of time or
• 3:28:05
  reporting only for certain period of time.
• 3:28:07
  I don't know. I think I think reporting
• 3:28:09
  probation but we're not opposed to like for a certain period of
• 3:28:12
  time. We'll leave that up to your
• 3:28:15
  discretion, Mr. X, I'm glad to hear from you or miss or for
• 3:28:18
  either one or both Sean and I believe the testimony that has
• 3:28:21
  been here today has been there has not been any incidents
• 3:28:25
  whatsoever for the first six years of their neighborly
• 3:28:30
  relationship up until March 22nd 2025.
• 3:28:34
  So there was been nothing. No issues up until that day that
• 3:28:38
  was snorting the testified to that since that day even though
• 3:28:42
  we have all these other incidents that happen and you
• 3:28:44
  found guilty on, you know there's not been any contact
• 3:28:49
  from October 22nd 2025 up until now and help me out with that
• 3:28:55
  date, is that the date of the second arrest?
• 3:28:56
  That's the day. She was alleged to have her last
• 3:28:59
  contact Walter. Thank you.
• 3:29:00
  And so after that day she said no contact with her.
• 3:29:05
  She's taking more steps in order to avoid contact with their she
• 3:29:09
  says she's deliberately broken. Her husband delivery broken her
• 3:29:13
  camera. They made strides to put up a
• 3:29:16
  fence which and I understand that she may be elderly.
• 3:29:19
  I, I can as an officer of the Court, her husband is also
• 3:29:22
  elderly and they have had trouble, but they've taken a lot
• 3:29:27
  of measures Try and do everything they can to mitigate
• 3:29:30
  the circumstances that caused this issue between her and her
• 3:29:34
  neighbor. I think that, you know, the
• 3:29:37
  amount of effort and the amount of money that they put into this
• 3:29:41
  is Testament to their commitment.
• 3:29:44
  Not to have contact with Mrs. Norton.
• 3:29:46
  And, you know, her able to see through a little gap between a
• 3:29:50
  blue tarp and a fence. I'm not sure if that rises to
• 3:29:53
  the level of she needs to be on probation, you know?
• 3:29:56
  So we would ask for a farmer and that'd be the only condition was
• 3:30:02
  the What was the you were involved in the injection here.
• 3:30:08
  And what was the request? How long was the request to
• 3:30:12
  extend the injunction for that was denied in order?
• 3:30:15
  The, there was a few different ones.
• 3:30:17
  I think that, to be honest with, and this is no, this is no, you
• 3:30:21
  know, putting off on anybody, but the original petition are
• 3:30:26
  the original motion to extend those done by Mrs. Norton, the
• 3:30:30
  request was for permanent injunction.
• 3:30:32
  Okay? This is Myron had gotten on the
• 3:30:34
  case. She had said an attorney, I
• 3:30:37
  don't know that this is Jamie and she got on the case, she had
• 3:30:41
  requested a extended, but terminate after a year, I
• 3:30:47
  believe it was. I'm not sure if her and her
• 3:30:49
  client were on the same page with that.
• 3:30:50
  They followed a amended motion on that and I believe that that
• 3:30:54
  was for permanent injunction. But those have since been
• 3:30:57
  denied, Okay, thank you. So, what I'm going to do is this
• 3:31:00
  I'm going to having found Mr. Footy of the fence of Allison
• 3:31:05
  and Junction for. Cypress talking or protection,
• 3:31:09
  or was it just a regular injunction and that's violation
• 3:31:13
  of injunction for what was the original Junction?
• 3:31:14
  I've got it here. I printed out, I believe that's
• 3:31:17
  mostly shoot for stalking allegations having a famous
• 3:31:23
  barfoot guilty of that offensive one with older judication of
• 3:31:25
  government placement Park on probation for 11 months and 29
• 3:31:28
  days. As far from I'm going to weigh
• 3:31:30
  the court costs and fines. The reason why they do that is
• 3:31:33
  you've already spent a substantial stump towards the
• 3:31:35
  fence and I think that's going to go a long ways towards
• 3:31:37
  solving the problems. There's not many court costs and
• 3:31:39
  fines there is going to be the standard conditions of
• 3:31:41
  probation. The center conditions, probation
• 3:31:43
  include a porting in once a month to probation officer.
• 3:31:46
  At least for six months, I'm going to impose the standard
• 3:31:51
  cross, the supervision, which is 45 dollars a month.
• 3:31:53
  Mr. Gibson, 40 dollars a month. But there's no court costs and
• 3:31:57
  fines just the cost supervision. There is most important
• 3:32:00
  condition of no contact and by no contact.
• 3:32:02
  I mean, no contact, not talking to her, not looking at her
• 3:32:05
  talking about her in her presence where she can hear,
• 3:32:08
  because I want to interpret that as something you're saying with
• 3:32:11
  the intent to get a rise out of her and it's just, you don't
• 3:32:14
  know, there's everything everything you say.
• 3:32:17
  So I assume that that's what I would assume.
• 3:32:19
  And what you going to do is if you do that for six months,
• 3:32:23
  you've stayed out of trouble and there's been no allegations of
• 3:32:25
  violations. And I'm going to strongly
• 3:32:26
  consider all the terminate your probation after period of six
• 3:32:29
  months. So basically a month, stay out
• 3:32:32
  of trouble. Stay away from her out, there is
• 3:32:35
  a condition. No alcohol.
• 3:32:36
  Not because of testimony, but because I do that in every
• 3:32:39
  probation case, in Jackson County, never not done one.
• 3:32:42
  Never allowed alcohol use in a single case and I don't plan to
• 3:32:46
  because I think that's a big part of a majority, the cases we
• 3:32:49
  have. They're based on either alcohol
• 3:32:51
  or drug abuse or both. Yes, sir.
• 3:32:56
  I believe I've covered everything possible to
• 3:32:59
  determination, Mr. Goodson wayport, calls and fines imposed
• 3:33:02
  costs supervision, no contact. With no other specific requests
• 3:33:06
  by the state. No contact with the main thing.
• 3:33:09
  I don't think counseling is ordering is appropriate in this
• 3:33:12
  particular case. I don't know that I've missed
• 3:33:14
  anything mister Mitchell. Anything that may have missed
• 3:33:17
  from the state's perspective? No, I don't think so.
• 3:33:20
  Any other specific relief that I may have not have addressed
• 3:33:23
  other than early termination, which I know that you always ask
• 3:33:25
  for Mr. Axon, and I just want to clarify the six months is going
• 3:33:30
  to be in person, correct? I'll tell you what I'm gonna do
• 3:33:33
  is I'm gonna require her report in person, for at least three
• 3:33:36
  months, just to get some, if at three months, if there's been
• 3:33:39
  no, allegations that concern you, I'm only give the probation
• 3:33:42
  office discretion to make the next the remainder portion
• 3:33:45
  non-reporting if they wish and they're going to I'm going to
• 3:33:52
  require the state. Excuse me, Mr. Gustin before you
• 3:33:55
  did that, I would want you to interview Ms, Norton.
• 3:33:57
  And make sure there's been a problems It's a few calmness
• 3:34:00
  Norton and she says, they've been a problems.
• 3:34:01
  I have no problem with the state making the remainder balance
• 3:34:05
  non-reporting, which essentially May mean.
• 3:34:06
  Three months reporting three months down reporting early,
• 3:34:08
  termination possibly, okay. I think that's a fair thing.
• 3:34:13
  I can do given the testimony. I've heard I do feel like there
• 3:34:16
  was Attempts to avoid judge Garcia's order.
• 3:34:18
  And I think it's appropriate way to deal with it.
• 3:34:23
  Mr. Guests. Anything else from the probation
• 3:34:24
  office? I may have missed.
• 3:34:35
  And it's Norton's and Miss Norton's.
• 3:34:36
  Consulted and says there's a hasn't been any problems and it
• 3:34:38
  would just go for. She want to get off at that
• 3:34:40
  point. Just go to non-reporting And if
• 3:34:43
  she goes a non-reporting, she would not only pay that
• 3:34:45
  supervision fee. so you're only paying for it a month for three
• 3:34:49
  months potentially, it's the Thomas, being in jail.
• 3:34:52
  Hey if you got, You would get credit for that but I'm not
• 3:34:58
  giving you a jail sentence. You don't want to jail sentence.
• 3:35:00
  Yes, it doesn't get credit towards probation.
• 3:35:04
  I would like to point out as far as I know.
• 3:35:08
  I may be wrong but after 40 something years, just maybe
• 3:35:11
  Sergeant hollis's last time testifying potentially.
• 3:35:15
  So is there a pants for future law enforcement position in the
• 3:35:21
  future? Possibly?
• 3:35:24
  I heard rumors that might be a Might be a candidate one day.
• 3:35:28
  We'll see how what happens with that but I think that's
• 3:35:32
  everything. I know of.
• 3:35:33
  We'll see if anything else from the parties Mr. Gibson said
• 3:35:36
  there's nothing else from him. Mr. Mitchell anything else.
• 3:35:37
  Thank you all. Miss barfoot.
• 3:35:42
  Just sucking up, get this behind you.
• 3:35:43
  Stay away from her and whatever. Friendship y'all may have had at
• 3:35:46
  one point is it appears to be over if you all try to work it
• 3:35:49
  out after your probation? I can't control that but it's
• 3:35:53
  not going to happen for the next six months, at least.
• 3:35:56
  All right. That concludes today's hearing
• 3:35:58
  today's bench trial. Alrighty friends.
• 3:36:06
  By a vote of 100%, none of you think she's gonna make it
• 3:36:11
  through her probation and you're probably right.
• 3:36:16
  Neither one of them are good people, that's clear in my mind,
• 3:36:21
  but the defendant there. She's I'm sorry, she's nasty.
• 3:36:26
  Not a fan. Glad she's not my neighbor.
• 3:36:29
  I've got enough trouble with the neighbor that I have.
• 3:36:32
  Definitely, don't want that. So, I had going into today, a
• 3:36:37
  fairly serious news courtroom law news.
• 3:36:43
  Thing that I wanted to cover with you guys but this trial
• 3:36:46
  sucked up a lot of the day and I'm still learning new software
• 3:36:50
  here. So I'm gonna hold it for
• 3:36:51
  tomorrow and we'll go into it before we go to dungeon court.
• 3:36:55
  But I want to give you a little more courtroom variety since we
• 3:36:58
  didn't. Get as much as we normally do
• 3:37:01
  but let's go to judge. Boyd, our promise for nine to
• 3:37:05
  11% more void but me if I'm wrong but this kid that's
• 3:37:09
  approaching is he the dude who Like the murderer and he wanted
• 3:37:18
  to go to Phoenix. Take a look at him.
• 3:37:20
  I think it's the same kid. Austin there.
• 3:37:24
  It just has a chuckle on here. I tell you.
• 3:37:33
  That's that's all right. I'm sending the iPhone to number
• 3:37:37
  one, let me know if that's not the right person.
• 3:37:51
  This one. Here.
• 3:37:54
  Okay. All right, on monreal.
• 3:37:59
  The codependent was here and my understanding that there was the
• 3:38:03
  DNA was recently available yesterday.
• 3:38:14
  All right, so we're going to call this back for a final
• 3:38:16
  discovery on April 27th. All right, thank you.
• 3:38:19
  Once you signed the reset form you excuse judge, we also have
• 3:38:22
  wanted to see if we could finish on his application for the trade
• 3:38:29
  school. It was like, Judge.
• 3:38:35
  Nahara was going to hear this. I, Am unaware of that church.
• 3:38:46
  All right, so I don't have a specific.
• 3:38:48
  Oh, you what the date written here on is on March 3rd?
• 3:38:53
  Yes, sir. All right, do you all have any
• 3:38:55
  documentation from the Wherever he supposed to be doing, I
• 3:39:01
  believe he would get the documentation once he does the
• 3:39:05
  interview. It's that the case.
• 3:39:07
  Yes, ma'am. You can go in like from any day
• 3:39:11
  like Monday Thursday from 9 a.m. So like 4 p.m.
• 3:39:17
  It's like Open Door. All right.
• 3:39:19
  So here's the thing. You I'm inclined to let him
• 3:39:22
  apply. But you'll need to give a time
• 3:39:27
  to win because you have nine a.m. to 1 p.m. like, why is it 9
• 3:39:32
  a.m. to 1 p.m. it's a couple hours to two and a half hours
• 3:39:35
  for the actual interview process?
• 3:39:37
  And then some travel time lifetime before and after to go
• 3:39:42
  to and back home. So GPS always offer travel time
• 3:39:46
  so How long what time is the actual?
• 3:39:51
  They can go at 9 a.m. on it on the third.
• 3:39:56
  Okay, 90 mm two for three hours. Don't know exactly how long is
• 3:40:01
  it. Well, it's anyone can call them
• 3:40:06
  and find out how long it takes its kind of one of those organic
• 3:40:10
  things that depends on what comes up in the interview, how
• 3:40:12
  long the process is. But they believe You show up at
• 3:40:17
  9, there might be a possibility that you don't get in for 15, 20
• 3:40:20
  minutes, whatever it may be but they seem to feel like three
• 3:40:24
  hours is sufficient to time for it could be less but it that
• 3:40:29
  should be sufficient to complete the interview.
• 3:40:33
  And state. I know you're objecting to him
• 3:40:36
  being allowed to interview. All right.
• 3:40:39
  So defense you all need to give me a form of motion because this
• 3:40:42
  is just something that's printed on an updated letter.
• 3:40:46
  I thought there was one he thought I just have this If not,
• 3:40:53
  we will get you one today. All right.
• 3:40:55
  So that that'll need to be done and I need some specific times.
• 3:40:58
  I need to know who specifically you're gonna meet It has a
• 3:41:02
  location on here, but that really is not telling the court,
• 3:41:05
  anything like, what's the name of the business?
• 3:41:10
  So that Independent Electrical Contractors, all right, so that
• 3:41:13
  needs to be in your motion and the specific time needs to be in
• 3:41:18
  the motion and of course the date, just okay.
• 3:41:22
  Anything else? Oh we will get something public
• 3:41:27
  court this morning. All right, thank you, thank you.
• 3:41:29
  It would be excused. Yes.
• 3:41:34
  Okay, as Barbara, just put in the chat for me.
• 3:41:36
  Thank you. Barbara do join us tonight.
• 3:41:38
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• 3:41:40
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• 3:41:42
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  Oh, I can't call your parents. My name is Pete Freeman.
• 3:42:20
  I'm the acting chair along with Mr. Brighter and MRSA, which
• 3:42:24
  staff, at Concordia introduce yourself, please.
• 3:42:31
  Tell me, you. Okay, is anybody in there with
• 3:42:39
  you? Ms Creek.
• 3:42:39
  Oh okay. That's okay.
• 3:42:42
  Okay, Miss Creech. You here today for a parole
• 3:42:47
  hearing. Yeah.
• 3:42:49
  Let me put some information in the record.
• 3:42:51
  Tell me, you name a DLC number. Amy Colleen Creech 599521.
• 3:42:58
  Okay. Let's create you a second felony
• 3:43:01
  offender. You have a parole date of
• 3:43:04
  1028.25. A good time date of nine 326.
• 3:43:10
  And a full-time date of 721.32. Your serving a sentence of nine
• 3:43:19
  years for possession of meth of multiple probation, violations.
• 3:43:23
  Possession of myth, probation, Technical, and profession of
• 3:43:28
  Tramadol. Does that all sound correct?
• 3:43:32
  Yes. Okay.
• 3:43:34
  Your case has been assigned to Mr. Parader.
• 3:43:36
  He would be leading Us in questioning.
• 3:43:38
  And at the proper time, I will call on his cabinet deal.
• 3:43:44
  Your sister who is here in your support chemistry Prater.
• 3:43:49
  Hey, Miss Creech. Tell us tell us what been going
• 3:43:54
  on in your life since you're arrested.
• 3:43:56
  All right, I believe that was. You were sentenced in 2024, or
• 3:44:01
  you were revoked and had to go to prison in 2024 because you
• 3:44:06
  kind of fail that a drug court. Is that correct?
• 3:44:09
  I've got that right? That's correct.
• 3:44:11
  Okay, tell us tell us why. Now since December of 2024 in
• 3:44:16
  the last 12 13, 14 months, what you've done to to make us feel
• 3:44:22
  like that you're ready to get out. um, when I was placed at
• 3:44:31
  lciw, I completed reentry Court, I mean the re-entry program and
• 3:44:37
  also completed living in Balance substance abuse one and two.
• 3:44:41
  I was involved in the yoga program there and did a lot of
• 3:44:46
  reading and self-growth. I came back to my Parish where I
• 3:44:52
  worked myself. to go ahead and just serve out my time because I
• 3:44:56
  really appreciated the time alone to think and grow and to
• 3:44:58
  expand as a human Since coming down to Concordia and finally
• 3:45:05
  being able to work, I think of excels at my job.
• 3:45:09
  I love, I love my job. I love the people I work with
• 3:45:12
  and I've just had a lot of time. To feel like I've become
• 3:45:19
  somebody that I can be proud of. What kind of programming have
• 3:45:27
  you had again? I know you've told me some of it
• 3:45:30
  but what's the? I mean your problem substance
• 3:45:33
  abuse. So what a let's talk about that.
• 3:45:37
  What what have you done? Because it's been a just a short
• 3:45:41
  period of time and, you know, once you're an addict or you're
• 3:45:45
  always an addict, I guess, you know that so, How can I be, how
• 3:45:53
  can we as a panel be assured that you are going to not go
• 3:45:56
  right back to the old hammocks? um, Well, that's true.
• 3:46:04
  Once. Really substance abuse.
• 3:46:10
  I feel is A symptom of. What I was arrested in his home
• 3:46:18
  in my life, when I needed to be sat down and giving the
• 3:46:21
  perspective on my overall life prior to that.
• 3:46:23
  I had lost so much and pretty much giving up hope for ever
• 3:46:27
  getting back to a place where I could be happy again.
• 3:46:29
  Where I wanted to be. I chose to be absent in my life.
• 3:46:36
  And having this time being taken away from everything.
• 3:46:41
  Made me realize. That I don't have to be absent
• 3:46:44
  that I can be present and be. Positive in My overall life.
• 3:46:50
  And it gives me Focus. Focus on.
• 3:46:55
  Taking care of what I still have left.
• 3:46:57
  And That I can fight for myself. Um, I've done.
• 3:47:08
  Over 50 hours of AA. And in a courses.
• 3:47:17
  Just feel like a whole different person.
• 3:47:21
  Okay, I'd like to hear from your sister and then I'll come back
• 3:47:24
  and and myself and my compadre will will have some questions
• 3:47:31
  for you. But let's hear from your sister
• 3:47:34
  what she got to say. Hey mister deal Tabitha deal.
• 3:47:39
  Good. Thanks for allowing me to be
• 3:47:43
  here on a few things that I I think might need some
• 3:47:49
  elaboration. So Um, my sister and I
• 3:47:53
  relationship has been strained. Over the years, I was previously
• 3:47:59
  living in Columbus, Ohio, and I just recently moved back to
• 3:48:02
  Louisiana, but Through the years, before before her arrest.
• 3:48:06
  And then and afterwards, as well as she had been popping around
• 3:48:09
  to different facilities. He was a really hard to connect.
• 3:48:15
  When we would speak to each other, it was like two different
• 3:48:18
  worlds didn't have anything. Really like in common to connect
• 3:48:22
  over it was, it was for felt very forcing conversations and
• 3:48:26
  things like that. And Reflecting back.
• 3:48:29
  I Am he had been through a lot? She?
• 3:48:38
  has an ever said it really, but um, you can tell her behavior
• 3:48:44
  and the things that she should be focused on was really
• 3:48:50
  avoiding all of the the things that she needed to work on and
• 3:48:55
  kind of process and get through, and Over time, as we've had
• 3:49:01
  conversations like that, that has dissipated.
• 3:49:04
  We've been able to connect her, she didn't feel like she
• 3:49:08
  deserved to be happier. Be stable, or B?
• 3:49:13
  And she lost a child as a mother.
• 3:49:15
  I can't imagine, I can't imagine, but I, it is just so
• 3:49:20
  difficult. I don't want to imagine.
• 3:49:26
  So, I could kind of see why? She wanted to kind of drowned
• 3:49:32
  herself away and why she felt like she didn't deserve to be
• 3:49:34
  with the rest of them. And just you know, put herself
• 3:49:39
  in this space that she was in and you know her attitude and
• 3:49:43
  rhetoric. You know whenever we speak has
• 3:49:48
  changed dramatically over time, she talks about the things she
• 3:49:52
  wants to do. She talks about wanting to build
• 3:49:57
  those bridges back, and go through the work that it takes
• 3:50:00
  to to reclink custody and to build her life.
• 3:50:06
  She was so excited to work, she was so excited.
• 3:50:09
  Every time she was like learning about something new and then
• 3:50:12
  talk about how she was going to apply that in her life when she
• 3:50:15
  got out, like those are those are things.
• 3:50:17
  I had not heard from us sister in years and years.
• 3:50:20
  So, and that's been going on for the last couple of years.
• 3:50:25
  You know, when she was first incarcerated, when she was going
• 3:50:29
  through rehab programs initially, you know, she had
• 3:50:33
  that same mentality and it has clearly shifted and lifted into
• 3:50:40
  something else. She has plans, she has goals and
• 3:50:45
  Where is she did? She's doing with her free time
• 3:50:50
  is what she can get into. I'm sure and where she is.
• 3:50:57
  But her intention and her interest in where she's putting
• 3:51:03
  that energy speaks volumes to Me In conflict with, you know, the
• 3:51:08
  words that weren't spoken previously and You know, I don't
• 3:51:13
  know for sure, one way or another.
• 3:51:14
  You know, she was in that head space before when she was going
• 3:51:18
  through drug court, and all of that.
• 3:51:19
  So, who knows? Whether it would have made a
• 3:51:25
  huge difference or not. But I would like to point out
• 3:51:28
  too. She didn't have the support
• 3:51:30
  system. Then she didn't have a car.
• 3:51:34
  It was difficult for her to get around.
• 3:51:37
  You know, she would tell me she was trying to find a ride here
• 3:51:41
  or there was somewhere she needed to be where she was.
• 3:51:46
  Responsible for reading and that Tom and you know had difficulty
• 3:51:50
  doing that when she was trying to do it.
• 3:51:52
  I think now that she's had an opportunity to be in work
• 3:51:58
  release and she's got maybe a little fun behind her back.
• 3:52:01
  She's got the intent in the goal to go established herself and
• 3:52:07
  get on the right path out in society.
• 3:52:11
  That's a big part of it, but she also has a support system now
• 3:52:15
  that she was missing before support system with boundaries,
• 3:52:20
  but a support system on the list. which I think will be
• 3:52:26
  Sure, sure. I'll leave it at that.
• 3:52:31
  Okay, we thank you for just paying today.
• 3:52:33
  It was a lot of good information.
• 3:52:36
  Uh, Mr. Prater you got to continue what is a What is your
• 3:52:42
  residency plan when you when you get out?
• 3:52:45
  If we were to Grant this I'm curious what your residency plan
• 3:52:48
  is because I thought you were going to live maybe with your
• 3:52:51
  sister. And then, but you're it says in
• 3:52:56
  your application that was filled out.
• 3:53:02
  That you were going to live with your husband.
• 3:53:05
  We both. Are going to be.
• 3:53:10
  Staying with her. Well, he's not really.
• 3:53:16
  I'm still going to be with him, but he's not with me.
• 3:53:21
  I'm saying with my sister. Okay.
• 3:53:24
  Well what about the husband? I mean.
• 3:53:30
  Are you both staying there or just you staying there?
• 3:53:33
  I'm staying there. He's working on getting on his
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  own feet while I get on mine, and if we can't agree on things
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  and we'll part ways. Damn what you think about that?
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  I'm not supporting a girl man. Period I will my sister's
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  welcome to stay my aunt and uncle have also offered her a
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  place out there with them. She's welcome to stay at.
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  Like I said, I've got really strong boundaries so I won't
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  tolerate any drug use or drama or Shenanigans and I will not
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  allow a grown man to come and stay with me.
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  Just this whole residency things a little if you for me.
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  When's the last time. Amy, where's the last time that
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  you were disciplined? Or you had some kind of
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  disciplinary report? Written on you and why you've
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  been incarcerated? um, and was it, I was at LCI W
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  and I received a write-up for having Believe medication
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  outside of the bottle. That was the last write-up and
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  that was in 2020. For.
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  Write 2024 and then you had nine bus bars, right?
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  Yes. I know is my own medication but
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  I did not have the kop, which means to keep on person.
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  Okay. And how many of those do you
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  normally take a day? How many were you prescribed to
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  take a day two? Two and you you had a masked
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  nine of them, right? Yes.
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  Why? There was some mornings that I
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  couldn't get up because we had to get up and take her
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  medication, early in the morning, like, 4 in the morning,
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  and I would save them from the night before and I just
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  accumulated from not taking him. well, why we Because that
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  particular medicine. I didn't live in a research on
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  that can be abused too. You know, it.
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  Takes strange to have none of them that you kept in a plastic
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  bag. I wasn't a group and I just
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  saved them for when I needed them.
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  Okay, but that was when you first went to prison, correct?
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  Right? And since then you've had these
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  courses so I want to I mean that doesn't go that I mean I
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  understand that. Okay so you don't have to worry
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  about me understanding it gives me some comfort but okay, I'll
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  turn it over to my panel to see what they got to say.
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  Okay, I have a couple questions. Um, do you have contact with the
• 3:56:55
  children? Not currently.
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  I currently okay who has the children right now.
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  My first, and my last house I was with my parents.
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  Hey, okay. All right, and you have work
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  release all over there. Right.
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  And what, what job do you have? I work in a kitchen.
• 3:57:18
  Okay. Um, do you get paid?
• 3:57:21
  Right. Okay.
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  How much money have you say? Um, 750.
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  Okay. And what?
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  They pay, you probably not barely anything, okay.
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  I just wanted to see if he was saving you money.
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  And, you know, one thing I'm noticing is that you don't have
• 3:57:42
  you, you good time only. If you only have 10 days, Nicole
• 3:57:47
  and what I read, you should have a lot more than 10 days.
• 3:57:50
  Probably enough to be almost to your good time date.
• 3:57:53
  But anyway, that's that's not for us.
• 3:57:55
  That's for classifications Mr. Nazi any questions?
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  So do you have contact with your parents?
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  Very little. that's something, I hope to amend the Where do they
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  live near your sister? They?
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  Yeah, probably about 45 minutes away.
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  Sure employment plan whenever you're released whenever that
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  is, oh my well, most of all of my work history is in the
• 3:58:32
  restaurant business. Front house, back house.
• 3:58:34
  I have over 10 years experience, working in a kitchen.
• 3:58:38
  Like it's not hard for me to find work.
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  I'll say it right in. So that's what you plan to get
• 3:58:44
  back to do one. Yes ma'am, I love cooking.
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  I love working in kitchens. Good.
• 3:58:50
  Um, And I think my colleague's have asked all the questions I
• 3:58:55
  was gonna ask. So that's it for me mister
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  chairman, oh, okay, thank you, ma'am.
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  All right, Mr. Prater, are you ready to vote?
• 3:59:03
  Yes, sir. I am.
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  Amy. You sound really sincere and I
• 3:59:09
  believe you and I think that you're on the right path, but
• 3:59:13
  I'm bothered about the residency plan.
• 3:59:15
  I'm bothered about the short length of time that you've been
• 3:59:18
  incarcerated. You are in Work Release.
• 3:59:20
  Now, you've got a short turnaround time.
• 3:59:22
  Anyway, my vote is to deny this and to give you to continue to
• 3:59:27
  get, give you perspective, or introspective on yourself and
• 3:59:32
  the kind of person you are and mending relationships with your
• 3:59:35
  parents and your sister continuing to build that
• 3:59:40
  relationship and possibly when you kids, whatever.
• 3:59:43
  But I think you're right, where you need to be at this
• 3:59:46
  particular time, I'm not convinced that you're okay.
• 3:59:53
  I do agree Amy. I think you're on the right
• 3:59:57
  track. I'm glad you just still seem a
• 3:59:59
  little uncertain. And that's a little concerning.
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  I am concerned about the bus part.
• 4:00:06
  You know, you, you are prescribed that medication, but
• 4:00:10
  the prescription is to take it as prescribed and not to hoard
• 4:00:13
  it for when you think you need it.
• 4:00:15
  And that's a little concerning to me.
• 4:00:17
  I'm so glad that you're at a place where you say, you love
• 4:00:20
  the folks, you job, you love the people and I think that's going
• 4:00:25
  a long way towards your own. Self-discovery. but I do think
• 4:00:32
  you have a little more work to do in that regard so because you
• 4:00:35
  have a close proximity to your good time date and I hope that
• 4:00:40
  you do investigate some good time credits that you probably
• 4:00:44
  owed my vote today is going to be to deny and I could say the
• 4:00:52
  same reasons. I think you you there and all
• 4:00:56
  with definitely check on that. I know it looks like your old
• 4:00:59
  some good time. But today, you're parole, has
• 4:01:04
  been denied. Good luck to you, Ma'am.
• 4:01:07
  Thank you. I think that was probably the
• 4:01:11
  right choice giving her situation.
• 4:01:12
  Hopefully she keeps working on improving herself.
• 4:01:16
  So today was an interesting day. Yeah, that trial was a little
• 4:01:19
  bit tedious at points, but I found it entertaining on the
• 4:01:24
  last, and honestly, it kind of speaks to To just people being
• 4:01:28
  stupid, we make our lives so much harder than they need to
• 4:01:31
  be. If we just all chilled out and
• 4:01:33
  got along a little bit, how much easier would life become.
• 4:01:36
  I'm just saying, And a special shout out to Helen in the chat
• 4:01:41
  who, you know, I don't know if you've hung around here with us
• 4:01:44
  for a while or if today's your first day.
• 4:01:46
  But first time we see you in chat, I believe, but welcome to
• 4:01:49
  a really good Community. I hope you hang around here with
• 4:01:51
  us because you'll find very, very good people here.
• 4:01:55
  We'll be back tonight. 8 p.m. Eastern 5 p.m.
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  Pacific for sidebar, please do join us for sidebar.
• 4:02:01
  Because as I've already said it's Choose Your Own Adventure
• 4:02:04
  night. So you guys in the chat will
• 4:02:05
  determine what we talked about and then, of course, we'll be
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  back here tomorrow morning. 9 p.m.
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  half an hour early for channel members.
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  Did have yourself a good day, look forward to seeing you
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  tonight and tomorrow take care. God bless