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#0108_ STORY INSPIRE: Civil War 🇺🇸, The Original Heated Rivalry · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: From the Free Press, this is Honestly, and I'm Barry Weiss.
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  Speaker 1: We started this podcast nine years ago because a white
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  Speaker 1: woman in Minnesota served a chicken quesadilla to a man
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  Speaker 1: and was immediately accused of cultural appropriation. That man's name
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  Speaker 1: was George Floyd. When JK Rowling had the audacity to
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  Speaker 1: suggest that penises and vaginas were different, we did a
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  Speaker 1: 72-part series on the fallout from her comments, including interviewing
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  Speaker 1: many of her slaves. After I was asked to leave
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  Speaker 1: the New York Times because I was too much of
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  Speaker 1: a rogue and a truth teller, I started the Free
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  Speaker 1: Press because I really wanted to encourage and foster open
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  Speaker 1: discussion and debate between people in New York, Miami, Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 1: I am a huge supporter of freedom of speech. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that I find most important. When
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  Speaker 1: David Ellison called me and said, would you like to
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  Speaker 1: run CBS News? I had to think about it because
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  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed my blog, my 17 listeners, and this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But I ultimately decided that $ 150 million was enough money
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  Speaker 1: to come into CBS News and turn it around. The
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  Speaker 1: scenes unfolding out of Minneapolis are incredibly disturbing. People are
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  Speaker 1: looking at their televisions and they're not recognizing this as America.
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  Speaker 1: So we thought it most important right now to speak
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  Speaker 1: to Greg Bovino, who is the commander at large of ICE,
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  Speaker 1: who's now been demoted, and he's now the maitre d'
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  Speaker 1: of an Italian restaurant in Paramus, New Jersey. Without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: Greg Bovino. Greg, how does it feel to have gone
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  Speaker 1: through such a whirlwind in the last two weeks? Now
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  Speaker 1: you're working at a restaurant, an Italian restaurant? Some people
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  Speaker 1: say that ICE actions in Minnesota equate to fascism. What
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  Speaker 1: would you say to them? Do you have anything to
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  Speaker 1: say to the families of the victims in Minnesota? Everybody
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  Speaker 1: love it when I cook. Ah, que bello amore. I
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  Speaker 1: take my cookie out. La, la, la, la, la. Cafe espresso, espresso, espresso.
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  Speaker 1: Brew a little espresso. I give everybody a little espresso.
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  Speaker 1: I got a nice big conecello. Que bello conecello, conecello.
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  Speaker 1: For everybody that wishing me bed, I give a ta, ta, ta.
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  Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Well, Greg Bovino, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: coming on and joining us. Here on Honestly, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Barry Weiss. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Tim Dillon Show.
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  Speaker 1: What a week. A lot to discuss here. A lot
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  Speaker 1: to break down. A lot to react to. Reaction. That's
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  Speaker 1: what the internet wants. They want a reaction video. React
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  Speaker 1: to it. React. And there's a lot going on, you know?
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  Speaker 1: There's a ton happening, a ton, over there in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it quite violent. Some of it quite violent.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it actually regrettable, which is not a strong
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  Speaker 1: enough word. There's no words that are strong enough, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when someone gets shot, who I don't think should have
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  Speaker 1: been shot, And you say it's regrettable people are going
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  Speaker 1: to get angry with you. And you said it was regrettable. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's terrible. It's horrible. You know, we got to take
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  Speaker 1: a chill pill. That's what my aunt used to say.
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  Speaker 1: She goes, why don't you take a chill pill? You know,
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  Speaker 1: when the kids are going... You know, the kids are
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  Speaker 1: kind of climbing the walls. And then your mother, your aunt, or,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a woman from the neighborhood... I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to gender it, but that's not something dads said. It
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  Speaker 1: was a mom expression. Hey, take a chill... If your
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  Speaker 1: father said that he was gay... And there's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that, by the way. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: gay people who are actually great parents. I'm not one
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  Speaker 1: of them. But... if your father said take a chill pill,
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  Speaker 1: he was gay. It's something that the woman said. You know? Like,
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  Speaker 1: take a chill pill. And that's what we have to
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  Speaker 1: do across the board. You know, you've all been over
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  Speaker 1: somebody's home when their kids were losing it. And they
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  Speaker 1: had to turn around to their children and go, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you take a few minutes and get yourself together?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we have to do. We want to
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  Speaker 1: zoom out for a minute and look at how we
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  Speaker 1: got here. I think it's important. I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people are very emotional and understandably so, justifiably so.
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  Speaker 1: And this isn't breaking down politically necessarily the way people
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  Speaker 1: think it would. There's a lot of right-wing people that
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  Speaker 1: are concerned about the government cracking down on protest and
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  Speaker 1: putting the boot on the neck of citizens. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of right-wing people that believe that. So it's not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily something, you know, broadly speaking, are Republicans more supportive
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  Speaker 1: of ICE than Democrats? Absolutely. However, when you go deeper
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  Speaker 1: and you look at these shootings, a lot of Republicans, conservatives,
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  Speaker 1: in some of the most prominent ones, are dismayed over
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  Speaker 1: how these events played out, how they were handled. And
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  Speaker 1: being skeptical of government in any of its manifestations, which
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  Speaker 1: is something a lot of right-wing people share, it's understandable
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  Speaker 1: why they would look at these events where people got
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  Speaker 1: shot needlessly. There were many ways to subdue a Rene
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  Speaker 1: Good or an Alex Preddy, whatever, without using lethal force.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of right-wing people are going, wait a minute.
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  Speaker 1: So how we got here, we got to back up.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it is, it's important to do. Because
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  Speaker 1: most of what we talk about now is completely ripped
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  Speaker 1: from context. Meaning there is no backstory whatsoever. Nobody understands
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  Speaker 1: why things are happening. You're shown a fragment of an
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  Speaker 1: event on your phone, and then you have a reaction
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  Speaker 1: to it. Immigration is the biggest issue in the world.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a uniquely American issue. It is not even
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  Speaker 1: a uniquely, you know, Western issue, although... It has driven
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  Speaker 1: political instability in Western countries. Things like Brexit in the UK,
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  Speaker 1: but you could also look at France and Italy, Europe,
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  Speaker 1: the UK, the Netherlands. All of these areas have experienced
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  Speaker 1: some form of of migration that has intensified over the
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  Speaker 1: last decade, but really over the last five to seven years.
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  Speaker 1: And the difficulty with absorbing those waves of immigrants and
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  Speaker 1: assimilating them into a culture that's existed for hundreds, thousands, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: of years... and the difficulty assimilating them into an economic
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  Speaker 1: system that is rapidly changing and in a lot of
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  Speaker 1: countries deteriorating, that difficulty has proven to be the catalyst
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of political movements and candidates in those
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  Speaker 1: countries that are trying to deal with that issue in
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  Speaker 1: a myriad of ways. Some people are proposing deportations. Some
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  Speaker 1: people are proposing a freeze of government benefits. Some people
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  Speaker 1: are proposing changes to existing law that allows refugees in
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  Speaker 1: large numbers to come into the country to claim political asylum.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a uniquely American issue. And it's not an
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  Speaker 1: issue that has any easy solution. There's none. There's no...
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  Speaker 1: This has never happened before in history where this amount
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  Speaker 1: of people migrated to another part of the world this quickly.
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  Speaker 1: Usually this was done through war. This was done over
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  Speaker 1: a long period of time. So it's been difficult for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of these societies, small, relatively homogenous societies, not
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  Speaker 1: only racially, but culturally. Culturally. Societies have cultures. If you
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  Speaker 1: go to Spain, you're going to notice it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: different than Louisiana. If you go to Louisiana, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to notice it's a lot different than New York, and
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  Speaker 1: New York is going to be different from Kansas. We're
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  Speaker 1: just talking about states within one country. Different countries have
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  Speaker 1: vastly different cultures. So if somebody comes into a country
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  Speaker 1: that has a culture that's existed for Who knows? But
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  Speaker 1: a very long time. And that culture has established norms.
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  Speaker 1: And then people come in from a radically different culture
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  Speaker 1: that's also existed for a very long time that has
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  Speaker 1: its own set of values. That's hard. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: anyone who thinks that's easy. I know dumb people that
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  Speaker 1: don't care, and it's your absolute right to be dumb
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  Speaker 1: and to not care or to be so rich you're
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  Speaker 1: unaffected or that your political ideology is some version of
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  Speaker 1: be nice, that everyone should kind of be nice, and
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  Speaker 1: things tend to work out if everybody is just nice.
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  Speaker 1: That's a faction of our society. that just believes that
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  Speaker 1: the words be nice will heal the divides. And that's okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're entitled to have that. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people with that. They're wealthy, their privileged globalization has been
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  Speaker 1: a boon to them. They're okay, they're doing good. And
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  Speaker 1: thinking about any of these issues doesn't interest them. They
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to do it, they don't care. They're unaffected,
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  Speaker 1: their family is unaffected. And so none of these things
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  Speaker 1: tend to interest them. They tend to ignore all these
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  Speaker 1: issues because they're hard to talk about. They're sticky issues.
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  Speaker 1: They're not dinner party issues. Really, they're not. They're things
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  Speaker 1: people talk about in private. They talk about in their home,
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  Speaker 1: with close friends. These are not issues that you tend
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  Speaker 1: to talk about like on a job interview per se,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you don't, you don't open with, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of immigrants. It's not your opener on a job interview.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting. A lot of immigrants here now. Interesting. Some
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  Speaker 1: of them are cool. It's just interesting. Like that's not
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  Speaker 1: an opener. Your job, you can't do it. Nor should you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not advising that. But these are real issues, you
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  Speaker 1: can tell. These things aren't being made up. Now, you
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  Speaker 1: might go, well, they shouldn't be issues. Well, good for
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  Speaker 1: you that you feel that way. It doesn't matter. They're
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  Speaker 1: hugely impactful issues. Trump was elected twice on this issue.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of the European leaders right now, look at
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  Speaker 1: Nigel Farage in the UK, Any of the candidates where
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  Speaker 1: the wind is at their back, meaning that they're going
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  Speaker 1: up in the polls, most of them have hard line
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  Speaker 1: positions on immigration. They want less immigration. Most people in countries,
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  Speaker 1: when they are polled, including America, want less immigration. That's bipartisan. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 1: do Republicans want, you know, whatever. You know, you could
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  Speaker 1: politically assign, but on the whole, most people want less
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  Speaker 1: immigration across the board when they are polled. There are
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  Speaker 1: very few people that want more immigration. They do exist.
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  Speaker 1: They do exist. Many of them are billionaires. Many of
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  Speaker 1: them are incredibly wealthy people. Many of them are radical libertarians.
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  Speaker 1: Many of them don't believe in a state. Some of
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  Speaker 1: them are far to the left where they also don't
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  Speaker 1: believe in a state. And they're anarcho-communists, whatever. But the
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  Speaker 1: vast majority of people, when they are polled, want less immigration. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think... that the people that want less immigration
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  Speaker 1: want what's happening now. I don't think that people who
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  Speaker 1: look at what's happening now, the ICE raids, how random
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  Speaker 1: they are, that they're taking people who've lived in the
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  Speaker 1: country 20, 30 years. They've raised their children here. Their
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  Speaker 1: children are citizens. Some of their children served in the
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  Speaker 1: United States military. They're productive members of society. They are
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  Speaker 1: not criminals. And they are being torn away from their
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  Speaker 1: families at a high school graduation. They're being abducted by
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  Speaker 1: guys in masks who are roaming American cities, grabbing people
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  Speaker 1: out of their houses and deporting some of them to
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  Speaker 1: an El Salvadoran prison. Nobody, very few people, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to say nobody, because there will be people that
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  Speaker 1: want that, and they are pretty vocal about that they
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  Speaker 1: do want that, specifically that. But I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: vast majority of people, even that want less immigration, because
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  Speaker 1: obviously the people that want more immigration or whatever, of
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  Speaker 1: course they wouldn't want that. But let's just talk about
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  Speaker 1: the people, and again, it's a majority that... every poll
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  Speaker 1: that want less immigration. I don't think want this because
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  Speaker 1: it's fundamentally cruel and inhumane and it doesn't take into
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  Speaker 1: account any specific considerations for people that have been here
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  Speaker 1: a long time. people whose children are citizens and have
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  Speaker 1: been here a long time. So when you do these
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  Speaker 1: random raids, they provoke a response that is justifiably, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to provoke a lot of anger because this is barbarism.
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  Speaker 1: When you go on the Department of Homeland Security social
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  Speaker 1: media accounts and you joke about doing these things, and
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  Speaker 1: you make memes about doing these things and it's completely
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  Speaker 1: unserious and you're not treating this with any gravity and
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  Speaker 1: you are exhibiting kind of a sophomoric behavior and people
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  Speaker 1: look at it, this also is disgusting to people who, again,
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  Speaker 1: many of them would say that with AI coming, with
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  Speaker 1: automation coming, with a large number of undocumented people here already,
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  Speaker 1: that it's difficult to imagine how bringing in more people
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  Speaker 1: is going to help. In that group of people, they
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  Speaker 1: Offers subject to terms and conditions. If the Trump administration came,
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  Speaker 1: came to power and said, listen, we're either going to
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  Speaker 1: do a compromise, which I saw Rand Paul talk about
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  Speaker 1: a rogue. And it was a quick clip where you're
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  Speaker 1: not getting voting rights because you came in illegally and
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  Speaker 1: you're not a citizen. And if we give you voting rights,
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  Speaker 1: you'll just see Texas and many other States flip blue
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  Speaker 1: and be democratic States forever. And you'll live in a
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  Speaker 1: one party system. in the same way that there are
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  Speaker 1: certain Republicans who would love to use these ICE rates,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we'll talk about this in a minute,
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  Speaker 1: to cancel elections or depress the turnout, and they want
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  Speaker 1: to live in a one-party system. But if we give
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  Speaker 1: everybody voting rights overnight, you're going to politically change the
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  Speaker 1: country in ways that, again, nobody voted for. The problem
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  Speaker 1: with this is that nobody voted for it. Nobody voted
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  Speaker 1: to bring in However many people we have here, we
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  Speaker 1: don't even know. That's the other problem. People are like,
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  Speaker 1: it's 10 million. It's 80 million. It's 50. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't think anyone does. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's 80 million. And I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: 10 million. I think it's like probably, I don't know, 25,
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  Speaker 1: 30 million, but whatever it is, nobody voted for it.
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  Speaker 1: So if you bring in 30 million people and then
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  Speaker 1: just give them voting rights overnight and say, now you
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  Speaker 1: guys can vote. And that fundamentally changes the political system.
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  Speaker 1: of the entire country by flipping some of the biggest states,
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  Speaker 1: then no one voted for that. You've brought in people
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  Speaker 1: to do that. That's not democratic. Nobody voted for this.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody in Texas voted. So Rand Paul's compromise was, well,
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  Speaker 1: people can just exist. They can work. We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to deport them. And they could kind of live in
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  Speaker 1: the shadows. And some of them may apply for citizenship
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  Speaker 1: and whatever. I think if you look at the amount
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  Speaker 1: of people that Biden and Kamala brought over, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was, you know, there's, again, it's hard to get numbers,
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  Speaker 1: but there's probably about 10 million people that came over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's watch Rand Paul here because he's, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to make a mess of what he's suggesting and saying,
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  Speaker 1: Because we're going to go through every angle of this here.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, we're going to try to do it
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  Speaker 1: somewhat dispassionately because I have an interest in less people
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  Speaker 1: getting shot in the head. Rand Paul.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to shock you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a moderate on this.
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  Speaker 2: I actually think that most of the people that are
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  Speaker 2: here and working lawfully and can pass a background check, I.
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  Speaker 1: Would give them no welfare and.
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  Speaker 2: I would give them no citizenship, no voting privileges, but
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  Speaker 2: you can work and we won't arrest you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. No citizenship, but a potential path to citizenship?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's better just to say the tradeoff is this,
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  Speaker 2: that you came in illegally. Right now the law says
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  Speaker 2: you've got to go back and you'll never get in, basically.
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  Speaker 2: So the compromise is you came in illegally, you just
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  Speaker 2: don't get to be a citizen, your kids will be.
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  Speaker 2: Now the new ones, the 8 million that might have
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  Speaker 2: come in last year, some of them need to go back,
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  Speaker 2: and particularly any of them committing crimes. The compromise I'm
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  Speaker 2: offering is different than anybody's ever talked about. Everybody thinks
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  Speaker 2: the compromise has to include voting and citizenship. If in
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  Speaker 2: Texas we gave amnesty and let, I don't know, a
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  Speaker 2: couple million people vote, immediately Texas becomes Democrat for the
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  Speaker 2: next 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what it's all about. It's about voting. All right,
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  Speaker 1: so listen. That's an idea. What I find, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Biden brought in 10 million people or some such number. Now,
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  Speaker 1: there are disagreements about whether those people are fleeing persecution.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are. Some of them are coming for
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  Speaker 1: economic reasons. I bet a good amount of them Most
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  Speaker 1: people that live in the regions we're talking about can
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  Speaker 1: claim with legitimacy to be fleeing something because those areas
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  Speaker 1: are deeply unstable. And we're not blameless in that either,
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  Speaker 1: by the way. It's not our fault that all of
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  Speaker 1: those regions, but that's also not lost on me, that
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  Speaker 1: we've conducted a lot of wars in the Middle East,
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  Speaker 1: we've destabilized areas of Latin America, and then the argument is,
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  Speaker 1: is the debt that you owe those people to fling
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  Speaker 1: your borders open and destroy your own country. And then
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  Speaker 1: none of us voted for that either. A lot of
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: us didn't vote for it. Some of us did. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: when I say destroy the country, it's not simply because,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you know, we're bringing in people that don't look white
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. There's a certain amount of wealth
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: inequality that we're, and we're there, by the way, where
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the working class of this country has less and less power.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: The biggest proponents of immigration when I was younger were
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: pro-capitalist Koch brothers, libertarians that realized that you could break
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the back of the working class by bringing in people
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: that would do jobs for a lot less. And unions
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: would have less power. and workers in general would have
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: less power. And the critics of immigration when I grew
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: up were the left, were not usually from the right.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: They were from the Buchananite right, more the paleo conservatives
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that worried about borders and language and culture. But the
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: economic critique was from the left. It was not from,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: you know, the Chamber of Commerce or any of those people.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: They thought you could grow the economy by bringing in
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: more consumers. Immigrants obviously come in and consume things. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: also they would take a lot of the jobs you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: just want to pay Americans to do. And then we
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: could build houses and buildings with a lot less in
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the same way that On the high end in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: tech world, the reason that Elon Musk and all these
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: guys want H-1B visas is so they can bring in
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Indian and Chinese indentured servants who will work, who will
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: sleep in bunk beds and work at their companies. They
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: don't care that Americans aren't going to get those jobs.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And that we're not even focused on training Americans to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: get those jobs. In the same way that when my
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: aunt told me you know, well, if we slow down immigration,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: who's going to be your doctor? And I asked her
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to explain that, and she goes, well, my doctor's from Pakistan,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and he's lovely, and I love him. And by the way, great,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: but is it odd to anyone that Pakistan, kind of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: an Islamic theocratic, somewhat dysfunctional country, from what I remember,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: is producing... Doctors for the United States of America. Pakistan
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is educating doctors that are helping my boomer aunt. And
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: no one thinks that's a problem. And I asked her,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I said, well, is that not a problem that we
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: are not creating the conditions where doctors in America are
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: going to med school online? here and they're from America?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that people from Pakistan have done anything
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: wrong by wanting to be doctors, but how do you
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: run a society where people from other countries come here,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: either get educated here or they're educated there, but they
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: come here and they have six figure a year jobs
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: while native born citizens languish in a failed education system
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: where we just send them to prison because they become
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: addicted to drugs because they're hopeless. And then we've got,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you know, 10 cities in America that are doing well
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: and houses over $ 10 million sell, but the housing market
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for first time home buyers is completely frozen. How does
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that society work? Other than tech feudalism, and you can
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: see it there, the housing market is slumping, but sales
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: over 10 million are skyrocketing. That's not an accident. So
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: how do you run a society? I'm literally asking, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, how do you run a society where the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: people that are born, by the way, white, black, brown, Asian, whatever,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: that are born in America are languishing and the job
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: market is very weak and wealth is consolidating on the
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: high end with the asset owning class, people that own
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: real estate, stocks, bonds, companies. billionaire wealth jumps three times
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: faster in 2025, the highest peak ever, sparking dangerous political inequality.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of that's AI and things like that. It's
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: about 3,000 billionaires for the first time. And none of
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: those billionaires, by the way, have any allegiance to a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: nation state. Most of them don't. Most of them don't care.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: So I guess in the mind of the far left
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we could kill all those people and redistribute that wealth
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and find a charismatic dictator whatever I mean that's like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a childish college fantasy but most rational logical people go
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the people coming here from El Salvador didn't do anything
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: wrong They want to work. They want their families to
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: have better lives. And it's inhumane if they've lived here
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a very long time and have roots in a community
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to rip them out of it and separate them from
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: their children. But if they've been here two or three years,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: four years, whatever it is, if they came in in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the latest wave and they don't have those roots, there
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: needs to be a way to orderly, in an orderly fashion,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: if people are here and they came in Illegally, you
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to deal with that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: And you can do it the way Rand Paul wants
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to do it. You can encourage them to self-deport by
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: denying benefits. You can pass legislation, whatever. But the performative
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: ice raids right now that are all over the media
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: and all over the news and people are disgusted by
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: them aren't aren't doing the cause of border security any good.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So you have to look at these options and figure
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: out what exactly you can do without tearing the country apart.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: There's a mandate to close the border. Trump was elected
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: with a pretty sizable mandate. specifically on that issue. People
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: do not want more immigration into the United States of America. Again,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it's just they don't want it. They also don't want this.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: So you've got to figure out a way to do this.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: What you could do, which Trump does not want to do,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: is enforce something called E-Verify, which means that it's the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: employers that will pay fines and possibly be jailed if
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: they hire illegal labor. The reason Trump doesn't want to
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: do that is because his friends in the construction industry
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and the hotel industry and the agriculture industry don't want
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: him to do that because they are the ones that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: are benefiting from the use of illegal labor. Now, and
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: they have a point when they go, listen, by the way,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we can't just fire everyone who's not legal. We'd be
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: looking at massive delays. The economy would have a problem.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: So there is a humane way to do it. There's
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: also an economic way to do it where you don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: cause a three-year slowdown in the construction of houses because
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you've just... There are ways to do it. This administration
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: is not interested in those ways. They're interested in running
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: the country like a reality show. They're interested. They've passed
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: no legislation. They are not communicative on this issue at all,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: other than these like childish memes. And they're losing support
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: across the board. But on this issue, they're losing support. Specifically,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it's like unserious and cruel. So you have a lot
• 33:21
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• 33:23
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're a crazy group of people and it
• 33:30
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• 33:33
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• 33:39
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• 33:45
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  Speaker 1: of people in Trump's inner circle, people like Stephen Miller,
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  Speaker 1: want this violence to be used as a justification to
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  Speaker 1: either shut down elections or depress turnout in the elections.
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  Speaker 1: Let's read a little bit of this. Keep going. So here,
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  Speaker 1: the Senate might fall to the Democrats is acute. Trump's
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  Speaker 1: poll numbers are sliding amid the ongoing protests against ICE
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  Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and in reaction to the harsh tactics it
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  Speaker 1: is using to find and seize undocumented immigrants. He hasn't
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  Speaker 1: delivered on promises to end the war in the Ukraine,
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  Speaker 1: and he hasn't delivered on the economy. I've been told
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  Speaker 1: by someone with knowledge of White House planning that Miller
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  Speaker 1: was a major advocate for the ICE operations in Minnesota
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that have led to the killing of of two protesters
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: by federal officers, the ongoing disruption of a major metropolitan
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  Speaker 1: area and international condemnation of the administration. But it was
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  Speaker 1: Trump who authorized the raids, and he has yet to
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  Speaker 1: put an end to them. Miller was also the author
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  Speaker 1: of an earlier proposal to use local National Guard troops
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  Speaker 1: to disrupt the midterm elections in critical states if polling
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: predicted that the Republican Party would lose the House. That suggestion,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: given the current negative polling in the fiasco in Minneapolis,
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  Speaker 1: is now dead in the water. Another plan that has
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: been discussed in the White House is to disrupt the
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  Speaker 1: future presidential election when Vice President J.D. Vance might be
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the candidate in the case of a loss at the polls.
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  Speaker 1: It was conceived by John Eastman, the disbarred lawyer. He
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  Speaker 1: is currently appealing his disbarment in California, who also thought
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  Speaker 1: up the failed plan after Trump's election loss in 2020.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: So this is true. If Seymour Hersh is accurate about this,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: then we're going to see a civil war and it
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: won't look like a civil war, but you're going to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: see something that resembles the closest thing that we've seen
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to a civil war if this is to happen. If
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: this is true, and I have no problem believing this,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: by the way. A lot of people spent a lot
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: of money to put this administration in office, and it
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: is very possible those people don't want to have an
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: election that reverses this. So the idea that Stephen Miller
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: was thinking about using an event like this to depress
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: turnout or to just cancel elections the elections, I was
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: told that Eastman's new scheme, recently the subject of informal
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: discussions at the White House, calls for sympathetic election officials
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  Speaker 1: in states where the Democratic candidates win simply to delay
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  Speaker 1: or refuse to submit the electoral votes at the time
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: mandated by the Constitution. Eastman's notion is to find a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: way to avoid the electoral votes from states with a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: large Democratic plurality so that the number of electoral votes
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: needed to claim the presidency is low enough to turn
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  Speaker 1: a losing Republican candidate into a president. So we're at
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  Speaker 1: a point where it does seem that some of these
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: things that people, including myself, didn't think were possible do
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: seem to be being discussed if Seymour Hersh is correct.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: And if that's the case, there is going to be,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: we're going to have a huge issue. We already know
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: that this isn't politically breaking down the way people think
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it is, meaning that a lot of Republicans look at
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: these people executing citizens in the streets and are unhappy
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: with it. And they also know This is the same president,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, who just sent Pam Bondi down to
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: meet with Miriam Adelson to discuss how to start putting
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: people in jail that Miriam doesn't like, their statements. This
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: is the same president that won't release the Jeffrey Epstein
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: files in their totality. They gaslit everyone and lied and
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: said they didn't exist. This is the same administration that...
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you know, has at every turn not reined in Netanyahu.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: And it's the same administration that is supporting a lot
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: of these very vague laws they're putting on the books,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I think, in Florida to make criticism of Israel a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: punishable offense. the way that criticizing immigration in the UK
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: has become a punishable offense. Somebody can show up to
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: your door in the UK, knock on your door, and
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  Speaker 1: detain you for criticizing immigration if you do it in
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  Speaker 1: a way that's not, you know, articulate. If they feel
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  Speaker 1: that you've said something indelicate, they can show up to
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: your house, knock on your door, they can charge you
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: with a crime, they can put you in jail. This
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: is the same administration that is behind a lot of
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: these laws or co-signing a lot of these laws that
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: will allow criticism of a foreign government to be labeled
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: hate speech and will make it a punishable offense. It's
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the same administration that's allowed a takeover of TikTok from
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: the Ellison family. They support Paramount buying CBS News. They
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: support all of these things. And this is the full politicization,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: not only of media, which has always been true to
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: an extent, but also now social media, where you have
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a space where the word Epstein is being censored. Is
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that true? Didn't you tell me that on TikTok, that
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: videos about Epstein are being censored? So all of this
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: violence in Minnesota and the discussions about, you know, again,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: can't verify this, but it is Seymour Hersh, a legit reporter.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: All of the discussions about disrupting elections or canceling elections,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: you know, They're all against, they would be wrong no
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: matter what, obviously, but they're all against the backdrop of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: an administration that is doing all of these things. That
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: has billionaires buying TikTok to censor the mention of Epstein.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: You have the attorney general going down to meet with
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the billionaire Miriam Adelson, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: and going, by the way, what are your concerns? And
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the people that elected this guy and that put him
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: into office are at a grocery store figuring out how
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: they're going to get groceries. Just days after a mainly
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: American investor is approved by Donald Trump took control over TikTok,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: some users are now saying the app is censoring and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: limiting their content, including posts about Jeffrey Epstein and the
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: shooting deaths of US citizens by federal agents in Minneapolis.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: So it's time to admit For all the people out
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: there that are the diehard MAGA people, I don't want to,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you know, the boomer types that really, truly get a
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: kick out of the guy. Because he's funny. They get
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: a kick out of him. You know, we talked about
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: it last week. They just, they love him. They can't
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: really be bothered with their own family, but they love
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: this guy. This is pretty obvious. This is pretty blatant.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: This is pretty blatant. This is... All the things that
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I would listen to Alex Jones talk about when I
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was younger, you know, are happening. And I've said it before.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And that's not to say, by the way, that I'm
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: somehow a fan of post-war liberal CIA interventionist neoconservative war hawk.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: flood the inner cities with cocaine, fund the Contras. Like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: we get it, okay? But let's just talk specifically for
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a minute about what you see happening in front of
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: your face against the backdrop of all of this. We have...
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Ice in the street. We have the National Guard. We
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: have people talking about the Insurrection Act. And you can't
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: talk about it on TikTok. You can't talk about Jeffrey
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Epstein on TikTok. And they're passing laws in Florida telling
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you if you criticize. Now, by the way, can you
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: get up the video of the woman who said something
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: about the mayor of Miami and they just like knocked
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: on her door? So, I mean, again, that's coming here.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: And you thought these people were the free speech people,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: they campaigned as the free speech people, and they were
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: truly criticizing the left, which in the 2020s had lost
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: their mind and were censoring people that said, you know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: maybe this virus came from China and they were kicking
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: them off social media. But I mean, here's a video, again,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: it's the United States of America, Miami Beach police questions
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: woman over social media post regarding the Jewish mayor, whom
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: she says calls for the death of all Palestinians. From
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: what I read about this woman's tweet, it was a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: somewhat innocuous political opinion that you may or may not
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: disagree with. But again, take a look here. It's the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: United States of America in Florida, Republican Florida, Republican Florida.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this. There you go. Picture
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: to make sure it's you. We're not sure. Okay. Is
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: that your account?
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: I refuse to answer questions without my lawyer present.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: So I really don't know how to answer that question either.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Like I said, this is freedom of speech. This is America, right?
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: And I agree with you 100%. We're just trying to
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: see if it's you because we're not talking to the
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: right person. We want to go see who the right
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: person is. Okay, how can I help you? So pretty
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: much it's just a statement that was made as far as...
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: By the way, stop that. She didn't say let's kill
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: the guy. She didn't call for violence. She made a political,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the guy canceled the movie. It's a pro-Palestinian movie he
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: didn't like. And she goes, this guy calls for the
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: death of all Palestinians. He doesn't stand up for the
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: LGBT community. Whatever. I don't like the guy. Clown face,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: clown face. These people are at her house. Didn't J.D.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: Vance go to Europe and start talking about free speech
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: and how embarrassing it is that Europeans didn't have free speech?
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Didn't he do that? This is Florida. It's Republican-controlled Florida,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: by the way. They're censoring your posts on TikTok. Anyone
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: who's not criticizing this, anyone who's not calling this out,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I cannot trust them. I don't know why they're not
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: calling it out. I don't know if there's a financial
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: benefit to them not calling it out or if they
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: feel that one side's already won and they want to
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: be on that side. I don't know if they're fearful
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of something or other, but if you're not calling this out,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: if you don't think this is wrong, if you make
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: a living speaking, if you're a comedian, podcaster, journalist, Whatever
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't really matter. If you are a YouTuber,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: if you're a social media personality, if you make a
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: living using your fat mouth and you don't think this
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: is a problem, you don't think getting a group of
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: billionaires that are ideologically aligned to go buy an app
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and then start censoring the content on the app, it
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: was a problem when it was being done during COVID
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: and it's a problem when it's being done now. And
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: if you don't care about that, and if you think
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that's not going to affect you for whatever reason, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: can't trust you. And I can't listen to what you say.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: You don't have any credibility to me. So that it
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that, you know, there aren't considerations politically of like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: You know, who's gonna censor us? How about nobody? How
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: about no one? How about you can't call for the
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: death of people? You can't call for violence against people.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: You can't dox people. But you can have a political
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: opinion without people showing up at your door with a badge.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: In Florida, Republican Florida, Trump Florida, Trump country. So this
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: is coming here. And these ICE raids and these executions
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: are against the backdrop of all of this. And the
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: discussion about the midterm elections and whatever, whatever credibility it
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: has with Stephen Miller and Eastman and whoever, it's against
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: the backdrop of this. An administration that campaigned on being
• 51:24
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  Speaker 1: when you look at this and you zoom out, which
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I think we've done a decent job of doing, you
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  Speaker 1: say to yourself, we have a very big problem. We
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: have a very, very big problem. And listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: solving it. And it's not my job to solve it.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm just telling you right now that if you're
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: not disturbed by this and your spidey senses aren't going
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: off a little bit or a lot, you know, we
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: have a lot of people in this country that have
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: taken flights of fantasy and I mean, the way that
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: adults now react to television shows, whether it's Stranger Things
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: or Heated Rivalry, whatever these shows are that are super popular,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: The Summer I Turned Pretty, whatever. The way that adults
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: are dealing with television shows, attacking the actors in the
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: show for not living up to, is the girl on
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I Love L.A. too brown? Did she go on a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: tanning bed? What? Is she going Ashkenazi to Sephardic? And
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: these are real things that people are saying. The way
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that adults are engaging with entertainment shows that adults are
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: degenerating and regressing. And they're unable to tell the difference
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: between real and fake. They're unable to discern what an
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: actor is who's playing a role that was written by
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: a writer. They're not able to do this anymore. They've
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: lost the ability to do it. They get in these
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: little fan cults and lose their fucking mind. They can't
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: just enjoy a show. They have to know everything about
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: the actors on the show, what their political opinions are,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: who they're fucking. They want to know their sexuality. They
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: want to know what exactly they believe about every scene.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: They want to know how much they're hanging out with
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: the other actors on the show. Are they hanging out?
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Is it fake? Is it real? They want to know
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: all of these things. They have a weird, toxic relationship
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: with entertainment because it's filling a void for them that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: is supposed to be filled by things like family, community,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and engaging civically with things that actually matter. But in
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the absence of that, or in the denial of that,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: people are like concerning themselves with like how much the
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: two guys on heated rivalry actually hang out. Why aren't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: they together more? Do they not like each other? To
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the point where these people have to come out and go,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: hey man, I like the guy. He's my friend, but
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: like we are separate humans. We have lives. But it's
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: not enough. If a character on a show does something
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that people disagree with, they then attack the actor on
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the show. And they go on the actor's social media
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and attack the actor because they're unable to tell the difference.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Or here's something even more disturbing, they don't care. They
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: don't care that there's a difference because they need to
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: channel their anger and their passion into something, and they
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: don't own a house. So they need to channel it
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: into the fucking summer I turned pretty. and debate the
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: religious affiliation of the actress. Is Jewish actress Odessa a Zionist?
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: Marty Supreme Star. This is so incredibly gross. Number one,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's just straight up anti-Semitic to tell the woman, oh,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: you're Jewish? You better speak up now. Fuck off. That's bullshit.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: She shouldn't have to say anything about anything she doesn't
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: want to say anything about, by the way. If you
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: need your political opinions from actors, you're a fucking retard,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: by the way. You should get them from podcasters, dummy.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: But here's the reality. People can no longer engage responsibly
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: with this type of stuff. As soon as there's a
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: hit show, a fandom develops... These people start frothing at
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: the mouth. They love it. Then they start turning because
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, this is kind of the problem. And
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: I see this a lot on, and I'm not trying
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to make this political, but you see this a lot
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: on the left. The left, because they have, they don't
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: really have traditional, a lot of them don't have traditional religion,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: but it's so ingrained in our DNA that, they create
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: these quasi-religious moments where there's like an epiphany and their
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: epiphany is like, I don't know, a show about fucking
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: people in LA or the gay hockey players, whatever. And
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: they have this thing like, wow, this is an amazing
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: example of art and love and this and that. And
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: then immediately, They start turning on it. They need to
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: turn on it. They need to get angry about it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: And they need to prove to themselves and others that
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: it's not actually as good as they thought. And the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: actors have some bad takes and some bad opinions. And
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I'm really depressed about this. They ride high on this thing.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: And then, as if they have to crucify everybody, and then...
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: The part of them that wants it to be bad,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: that wants the experience to leave them empty and unfulfilled.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: They want to get angry. They need it. They need
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to tear these people apart. It's something that I've witnessed
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: over and over. And now they're doing it to actors.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: For a while, they were doing it to comedians and podcasters.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and they're still doing it to those people. Don't get
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: me wrong. But now it's like actors and these people,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: actors don't even know where they are half the time.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I know actors. They don't even know where they are now.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Asking actors to have political opinions is cruel. It's the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: same thing as dragging the kids out of the fucking ice,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: that poor little kid with a little fucking blue hat.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Asking an actor to have a political, a well-articulated political
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: opinion is cruel. It's barbaric and it's inhumane. Actors exist
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: to be hot, and or interesting looking to be diplomatic.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: And they should be able to slip into roles. They
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: should be good at being other people. That's their skill.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Dragging them out into the light ruins it. It ruins it.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: The reason Succession was a great show is because Sarah Snook,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: who plays Shiv, didn't have a podcast where she talked
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: about her pussy for 18 years before it, because it
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked. Let these people be actors. Let them
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: be actors. Stop dragging them out into the spotlight, analyzing
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the tan of their skin. Stop making Sydney Sweeney into
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: a political figure. How empty is your life that this
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: big-titted blonde, who's a good actress, needs to be a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: political figure? It's crazy, but it's deeply unhealthy, and it
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: comes from this reptilian part of the brain that just,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you wanna see people burn. Cruelty is the point. It's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the same thing when the DHN, I'm not equating them
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: because obviously it's horrible to rip kids away from their parents.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: But by the way, there is some of that that's unavoidable.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: If you can say these guys are in Trendagua, they're
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: a criminal enterprise and they came here with a bunch
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: of kids and we got to get them out of here,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: keep them all together and get them out. There does
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: need to be a way to get crime syndicates out
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: of the country. I think most people would agree with that.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: But the same part of the brain that delights in
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the dumb Department of Homeland Security memes, Santa Claus is
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: coming to deport you. That's the same part of the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: brain that wants this woman to, this poor woman just
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: got cast in something to play some Mexican chick. She
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: didn't know. She didn't read the book. I believe her.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: She didn't read. She said, I didn't read the book.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: What do I know? Also, I know a lot of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Mexican people that look white, but whatever. Who cares? You
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: want a Mexican actress to play her? Fine. They dragged
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: this woman. I don't even know this woman. but they
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: dragged this woman and she goes, you guys are right.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: And she has to say, it's just go on her
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: Instagram and go, you guys are right. It's why I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: love you guys. You let me know this chick was Mexican.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I totally get it. I totally get it. And, and,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: and listen, if you spend your time engaging in this
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: type of behavior, the utterly meaningless, and you give this meaning,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: And you're running around trying to give your own life
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: meaning by analyzing whether the stars of heated rivalry spend
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: enough time together when they're not on set. If that's
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: what you're doing, you've completely lost the plot. And this
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: is why AI's entertainment's coming, because you're torturing the real people.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: You're trying to destroy. Fame looks so unappealing right now.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You know how unappealing it is now? I mean, yes,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: if it comes with money, it's always worth it because
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I've been broke and it's not fun. But do you
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: understand when you were in the 90s and you were famous,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: you were an actor, you made a great thing and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you got to go away, now it never ends. Now
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you make a show and then the people become obsessed
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: with you and they want to know everything about your
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: private life, okay? And then you wake up one day
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: and you're just trying to be hot and somebody's like,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: what about Sudan? Been kind of quiet on Sudan.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: These people all need to have fully formed opinions on Iran.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: And we're analyzing how much time they spend with their
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: co-stars and if they're toxic on set and if they
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: love each other. Conor has been vocal about fans being
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: overly invested in his love life as he adjusts to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: his newfound fame. And then they're all scared to confirm
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: their sexuality because a lot of these people are straight
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever they are, you know? And the people can't
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: handle that a straight guy's playing a gay guy. They
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: can't handle it. So then they turn into psychos and go,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: you know, there was actually a lot of gay people
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: that could have done that role. A lot of gay
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: people that could have done that role. Whatever. This has
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: become their politics. This has become their political identity. This
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: has become their religion. Hunting the dumbest people in our
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: society and making them have views on us Hunting the
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: dumbest people in our society and making them articulate positions
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: on Palestine. This is barbaric. This is an ice raid.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: This is an online ice raid. Finding the dumbest and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: most insignificant people. And it's not to say that actors
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: don't do great shit, but I mean, in the realm...
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Of the political, you could not find someone more insignificant
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: than the hot guy who was waiting tables in LA
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: three months ago that's on heated rivalry. There's no one
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: whose opinion matters less. Nobody. And the fact that these
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: people keep dragging these dummies into the light and forcing
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: them to confess, what is your sexual, tell me what you,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: when you come, what do you think about? It's not enough.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Just enjoy the fucking show, you loser. Just enjoy the
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: fucking show, you loser. Enough already. And I can't believe
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: I'm defending, but I got nothing to do with these people.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: I'm defending them. I feel bad for these dummies. I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: feel so bad for these dummies. They don't know what's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: going on. They're hot. They're trying to remember if red
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: means go or stop or which one is green. And
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to walk across the street and not
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: get killed. They're trying to walk across the street and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: not trip over a food robot or they don't know
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: where they are half the time. That's not why they're here.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: They don't know their sexuality. They don't know what's going on.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: They sat in a chair that got them hard once.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: They don't know. It's not, they're not here for that.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: They're not here for that. They're not here to be
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: your hero. They're not here to influence you. They're not
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: here to hold your hand and walk you through your
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: meaningless garbage existence. They are there to pretend to be
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: someone else for a half hour on your television. I
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: can't believe it. And some of them are young. Some
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: of them are like in their late teens and they're
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: getting bullied by adults. Some people, they got to take
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: their social media pages down. They don't, they're like, what?
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I was on this show. Now everyone hates me because
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: they disagree with the ending of the show? They didn't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: like the season finale? So they're trying to kill me?
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. We've reached a point in our culture where
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: we're forcing our hottest, dumbest people to become something they're not.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: It's cruel. It's degrading. I'm going to protest that and
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: get shot. I'll be shot protesting that. Defending the rights
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: of hot, dumb people to remain hot and dumb. Because
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: we all benefit in that. It's supposed to be a fantasy,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: you fucking retards. you're supposed it's a that's what it
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: is the dream factory they're not supposed to be right
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: i want to know about these fucking people what's wrong
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: with you it diminishes the experience to know too much
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: about them it's not like politics politics you should want
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: to know all of the things about these people You
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: should want to know where they come from, who funds them,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: why they believe certain things, why their beliefs change. You
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: should want to know why exactly they're having dinner with
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: whoever they're having dinner with. You should want to know
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: all these things. You should be curious about where they live,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: where they came from. You should be curious about why
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: they're the governor of a state they didn't grow up in.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing. What about the state do you like?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: You should want to know why some of them are
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: incredibly vague about their personal lives. You should want to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: know that. You should want to know who is financially
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: backing their candidacy. You should know the main industries in
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: their state and who runs them. All of that should
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: be fair game if you're a politician, not if you're
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: the star of the hockey thing. That's not what you
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: should care about if you're the star of the hockey thing,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: you fucking moron. So we've got problems in our society,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: big ones, big ones. We've got real, real issues here.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: We have a government that looks to be Using, not
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: looks to be, by the way, let me correct myself
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: because people clip that. He won't admit. A government that
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: is using their billionaire friends to shut you up and
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: then potentially maybe put you in jail and maybe end
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: up getting shot. We don't know. But these aren't independent events.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: We should look at how we got here. We also
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: have people that are trying to destabilize the country from
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: other countries. or people that live here that are trying
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: to egg on riots, make things worse, 100%. We have
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: people that are stirring the pot. We have agencies in
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: our country that want more power. They want a bigger budget.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: They want autonomous drone technology accepted by the citizenry to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: feel safe. They want facial recognition. They want biometric scan.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: They want all of that. They want it. They want it.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: So violence to them is good. That works. If everyone
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: feels safe and you all live in a community where
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: everybody cares or trusts each other to the extent that
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: that's possible, you won't need all of the things that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: are coming. The AI bubble is the only industry in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the country that's functioning. And it's not functioning. It's largely fake.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: But it's one of the only things. It's got to deliver.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: This has got to deliver. You got a fucking massive investment.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Our economy's hinging on this. The stock market's hinging on that.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: It has to deliver. Well, I would think a great
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: way to usher in AI would be a lot of
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: violence all over the place. That would be my guess.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: And in fact, if you didn't have that, well then,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you wouldn't consent to all these
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: new things that are going to start popping up in
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: the next few years. All these companies are going to
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: have to start selling all this technology to the states,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: to local jurisdictions, to private companies, to private individuals, to
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: other countries. Well, If you have random outbreaks of violence,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: if you have high incidences of crime, if you have
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: protests that are turning violent and spiraling out of control,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: if you have the federal government in conflict with the states,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: which is causing chaos on the streets, private individuals, private corporations, federal, state,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: local governments, all of these consumers are going to accept
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: this technology, buy this technology. So this, what's happening right
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: now is the wet dream of the national security state,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: of Palantir, of all of these different companies. They're not
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: the only company, by the way. There's lots of different companies.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: And this is their wet dream because this will lead
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: to surveillance. It will lead to AI government. It will
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: lead to decisions being made by AI. Those ICE agents
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: are untrained buffoons and killed a person. But you know
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: who's not gonna do that? The robot. The robot's gonna know.
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  Speaker 1: The robot's not gonna fear for its own safety. The
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: robot's gonna be programmed to deescalate things. Watch, coming. If
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: you don't think those conversations are happening, you're insane. And
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: if you have a buffoon group, a ragtag group of
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: people you recruited 25 minutes ago that are ripping kids
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: out of their houses and then shooting protesters in the street,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty good argument. In fact, maybe the best
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: argument I've ever heard for something that five or ten
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: years ago we all would have completely rejected, which is
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: a robotic or drone-based police. Okay? Okay? It's the best
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: argument I've ever heard for that. If you were to
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: make arguments, you'd say, well, this is what happens when
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: people do it. Why don't we go somewhere else? Why
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: don't we go somewhere else with this? Why don't we
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: think about automation? These decisions will be made. Look at Waymo's.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Five or 10 years, yo, I don't want a driverless car, what?
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: I don't want to sit in that. People have accepted them.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: They're using them. And if I was going to make
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: an argument to get rid of people and replace them,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: this would be a great argument. I would show this
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: at my investor meeting. I would show it. If I
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: was an investor in one of these AI companies, I
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: would say, I want everyone to watch something, and it's
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: going to be a little disturbing. But I think it's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: important because I think we've got a real chance here.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I would play the shooting of Rene Good, and then
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I would play the second shooting in Minneapolis. It's the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: last name. What's his name, Alex? What?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: Pretty.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Pretty. I would play those two shootings, and then I
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: would look at my board. I would say, this is
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the argument to automate policing. This is the argument to
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: introduce mass surveillance, drone technology, biometric, facial recognition, whatever it is.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: We want to avoid this. We want to take human
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: error out of this. And that's what I would say.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: And people would be nodding and sipping their coffee and going, yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: this makes a lot of sense. Because they're basically saying
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: to all these people, they're getting them in rooms. They're
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: getting them in rooms and they're saying this to them.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: They're saying, when this all falls apart, and it will,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: that's what they're saying to them. They're going, when this
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: all falls apart and it will, you're going to want
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: to live far away from this and you're going to
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: want to be protected, not by a bunch of buffoons.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: You're going to want to be protected by the types
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: of things that we're working on. That's what they're telling
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: these people. But yes, some of you are going to,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: you know, flee to Switzerland or whatever, and they'll, they'll
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: close the borders and you know, they'll, and all the
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: bullshit you guys talked about, about open borders and diversity
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: and all the shit you tweeted, you'll flee and you'll,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: you'll live behind gates, you know, but some of you,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you'll, you're going to stay in America. You'll
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: stay in America. And, and, When that happens, you're going
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: to want, you want these guys protecting you? You want
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: these people? Do you want these people or do you
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: want what we have? Because I'm going to tell you
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: right now, you're going to want what we have. So
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: this entire economic bet that we've all made on AI
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be In my mind, and the minds
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: of other people, it's not only me, it's not the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: one person who said this, but you can look at
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: all of these different incidents and say to yourself, these
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: will be used and it'll happen. And when it happens,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: and it may already be happening, but when it starts
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: happening out there, when they bring the police robot on
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: the Today Show, They're going to use the example of Minnesota.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: They're going to use these examples. and they're going to say,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: what we want to avoid is human error. We want
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: to avoid... And then they're going to just start remaking society.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: And you're going to have... The few rights you have
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: left are completely gone. They'd be completely gone. They'll be...
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: Completely gone. They're already evaporating in Trump's Florida. Right-wing Florida. Freedom! Freedom!
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: What'd you say about the mayor? What'd you say about
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: the mayor and his film? I'm here with a badge
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: and a gun. Freedom! Hey, what'd you say? Trump's Florida,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: by the way. So the left and the right can
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: keep fighting, keep fighting on acts and threads, keep screaming
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: about whatever they're screaming about. But there's a very, very
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: dark reality that's starting to become very obvious. If you're
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: smart enough to zoom out, there's a very, very dark reality.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be across the board. It's going
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: to be across the argument to remove people from many,
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: many things is starting to happen. the attacks on artists, entertainers,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: the idea that they should live up to some standard
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: that was created to tend psychopaths on Reddit or whatever,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: wherever this emanates from, these campaigns against these people, the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: idea that people are going to be obsolete, and that
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: you're not going to need them, that you'll actually be
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: happier with something that was generated by Sam Altman. So
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the dark reality of what's coming is, I don't think,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: a political issue. I think it's an issue that has
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: political elements, but I think it's darker and more important,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: and I think it's about the survival of humanity. It's
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: about the survival of being an autonomous human being that
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: has the freedoms to speak, to travel, to move, to
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: resist some forms of mass surveillance. I believe all of
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: that to be the case, and I believe that you
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: have bad actors on the left, for sure, that are
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: making these protests... spill over into the violent riots. And
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: some of those bad actors are federal agents. As we know,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: some of them aren't. It's a toxic soup of foreign
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: influence and federal agents and whatever. You've bad actors on
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: the right that want to cancel elections and just basically
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: turn this into Russia. And the oligarchs at the top
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: don't care. That's the scary thing. They actually don't care.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: So understand the point of what I've been trying to
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: say here. They actually don't care. Whichever way it seems
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: to be going, they're going to survive. They know they're
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: going to survive. That's the most disturbing thing about it all,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: is that they're still at Mar-a-Lago with the dog mask
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: and the showgirls, they're dancing. They don't care. And they'll
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: go to Kamala's house. or Buttigieg's house, or Newsom's house.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: They don't care. Tim Cook will go to Melania's documentary,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: and then if Kamala Harris gets elected and writes a book,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: he'll be there too. It doesn't matter. The oligarchs actually
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: don't care who runs this show. Whether it's autocracy or
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: a fake democracy or a bloated oligarchy, whether it looks, feels, smells,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: and tastes the way it has, or whether it kind
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: of makes a sharp turn into something else, it doesn't
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: really matter to them. What really matters to them is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: that they have enough money and political clout to survive.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: And the ones that don't will flee. So we're in
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: another thing now. You can't fight on threats. Can argue
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: on threads, fight on acts, do anything you want. But
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: we're in another thing now, and you should fully be
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: aware of that. You should fully be aware that the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: people at the top don't know which way it's going
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: and don't really care. There's factions. There's groups that think
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: it would look better like this. I'm thinking it'll look
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: better like that. But at the end of the day,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: none of them give a fuck about you. None of
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: them want you to be able to resist the things
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: that they are planning. And their only concern is generational
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: wealth for themselves, power for themselves and their families. That's
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: why they went with Trump. That's why they went And
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: they'll go with whoever else is here. And listen, if this...
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: There'll be a fair amount of them that if Trump
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: wants to cancel election, I'm not saying he will, but
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm saying if he does that and uses some violence
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: in the street, there'll be a fair amount of people
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: that just go with him. Elon will go with him.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: The Ellisons will go with him. Then there'll be other
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: people that are an opposing faction. It's now a naked
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: power grab at the top. There's absolutely... no doubt about
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: what is going on. And it is darker than the
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: political fights you're having about, well, if, you know, there
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: were less immigrants, there'd be higher hourly wages, or maybe
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: more immigrants actually grow the economy because there's other things happening.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: It's not that those debates are inherently unimportant. It's not
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: that you shouldn't, in a free society, be able to
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: debate things and then, you know, enact laws and change
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: the course of things for the better. It's not about
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: any of that. It's about if you zoom out, you
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: can kind of see what's happening. There's a bunch of
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: people at the very top that are sitting on the fence,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: not really knowing where this thing's going to go. Maybe
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: it's always been like that. Now we just really have
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: the means to see it for what it is. Maybe
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: it's always been like that. It probably has. You've probably
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: just had different factions sitting at the top going, what's
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: this thing going to do? Are we going Hitler? Who knows?
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe we would. Maybe there were people in Germany going like, eh.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: There's people in America going like, hey, maybe we'll be
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: a kind of a fascist state. And then there's people that,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: you know, during the Eisenhower and Truman administration were burrowing
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: in pretty high-level communists who were like, maybe we'll go Soviet.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be communists. I don't think... I don't think
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: it's ever not been the case, but now we have
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: the tools to explicitly see it for what it is.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: All these people are also out on social media, like
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: begging for our approval and trying to tell jokes. They're
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: trying to be, their PR strategy is different. They're out,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: they're buying the social media app that you wake up
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: and post on. So that's what's happening. That's what's happening.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: And it's not political. It's apolitical, which makes it even scarier.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say like, don't vote or
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter or Trump's good or whatever. You'd think
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, I'm not saying that. I'm saying
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: that the tech people that were very liberal are now
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: very right wing and they'll be very liberal and they
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: don't care. They don't care. And then the people that
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: came to power criticizing the lack of free speech on
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: social media are now shutting down free speech on social media.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: So it's obvious that a lot of this is fake
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: and it's performative. It's a show. It's a reality show.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not necessarily the funniest episode we've done,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: but it is the truth. It is what's happening. It
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: is what's happening. And in this time, You can really
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: only trust one person. There's one person that I trust
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: in this time. There's only one person I trust, and
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: it's Erica Kirk. Good night.