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- 1:15Speaker 1: West Virginia falls to Kansas State. Forty five to eighteen
- 1:20Speaker 1: was the final score. It was ten to three after
- 1:24Speaker 1: a quarter. It was seventeen to ten at halftime. Obviously
- 1:31Speaker 1: should have could have would have been seventeen seventeen. Needed
- 1:35Speaker 1: to stick that one in there in the final seconds
- 1:37Speaker 1: on that gold to go situation. Well, actually it wasn't
- 1:40Speaker 1: even gold to go. It was fourth down from lakenside
- 1:42Speaker 1: the two, but you know what I mean. And then
- 1:44Speaker 1: it was all over done. In the second half, Kansas
- 1:48Speaker 1: State outscores West Virginia twenty eight to eight. Building numbers together,
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's forty five to eighteen. Kansas State now with one
- 1:57Speaker 1: loss in league play, and West Virginia now falls under
- 2:01Speaker 1: five hundred. Overall, they're three and four, and the Mountaineers
- 2:07Speaker 1: got a lot of questions. So on the program today,
- 2:11Speaker 1: we'll look at the game break down, the numbers. This
- 2:15Speaker 1: numerical breakdown is a lot different than last week. Last
- 2:20Speaker 1: week you could say x y Z that's boom boom boom.
- 2:25Speaker 1: Why this one. A bunch of different stuff all came
- 2:30Speaker 1: into play in this one. So we'll get into that. Boys.
- 2:36Speaker 1: As you know, folks, we don't talk before we start
- 2:40Speaker 1: specific sworn to silence and fucked about the game. We say,
- 2:43Speaker 1: don't say a thing, don't say a thing. Then we're
- 2:44Speaker 1: just gonna let it rip. Normally we start with hoppies,
- 2:48Speaker 1: obvious observations. Do you have those today? I do, I do,
- 2:54Speaker 1: I don't.
- 2:54Speaker 2: I do not speak for mountaineer nation, but I can
- 2:58Speaker 2: read the room, and part of the room is you
- 3:03Speaker 2: got to fire Neil Brown, and that's that's but but
- 3:06Speaker 2: I kind of I discount that because that's been around
- 3:09Speaker 2: for about four years now, So discount that. But what
- 3:13Speaker 2: is concerning is when you do read the room is
- 3:16Speaker 2: the what I think is the increasing number of mountaineer
- 3:20Speaker 2: fans who do not think that Neil Brown and this
- 3:24Speaker 2: staff are going to get it done, that this team
- 3:26Speaker 2: is that they are consistently, consistently, not always, but consistently
- 3:30Speaker 2: falling below expectations. And when you get to that, you know,
- 3:36Speaker 2: in forty nine BC, Tony Julius Caesar crossed the Rubicon.
- 3:40Speaker 1: You're going BC on this cross the Rubicon small waterway
- 3:44Speaker 1: in northern Italy.
- 3:45Speaker 2: And when he crossed the Rubicon, it was a seminal
- 3:47Speaker 2: moment because it was the start of civil war in
- 3:51Speaker 2: the Roman Empire, and it was the beginning of the
- 3:53Speaker 2: end of the Empire. There was no in other words,
- 3:55Speaker 2: there was no there was no going back, no going back,
- 3:59Speaker 2: And that's kind of what it feels like here that
- 4:01Speaker 2: if you haven't crossed the Rubicon, you're on the verge
- 4:04Speaker 2: of doing that where given how this season has gone,
- 4:09Speaker 2: given how much of the previous seasons have gone, and
- 4:12Speaker 2: I am not advocating for the firing of Neil Brown.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I'm trying to make an observation that you are reaching
- 4:18Speaker 2: a point where it's going to be difficult for Neil
- 4:21Speaker 2: Brown to come back from.
- 4:23Speaker 1: That's number one.
- 4:25Speaker 2: The second point is, oh, Okay, you're going to fire
- 4:27Speaker 2: Neil Brown this week. No, this athletics director has said
- 4:33Speaker 2: repeatedly when these kinds of questions have come up, he's
- 4:37Speaker 2: not going to take that kind of action in the
- 4:41Speaker 2: middle of a season for a couple of reasons, because
- 4:44Speaker 2: what is he always said, I'm evaluating the program. I'm
- 4:47Speaker 2: not just going to go on individual wins and losses
- 4:49Speaker 2: or how angry the fans are this week. So if
- 4:51Speaker 2: you're doing that, if he's going to do what he
- 4:53Speaker 2: said historically he's going to do, he will wait until
- 4:56Speaker 2: the season is over before he would make any decision.
- 5:00Speaker 2: So unless something unbelievable happens, you're not going to get
- 5:04Speaker 2: If there is going to be a change, you're not
- 5:06Speaker 2: going to get it in the middle of the season. However,
- 5:09Speaker 2: if at the end of the season, he contemplates making
- 5:14Speaker 2: a decision. Then the question is, Okay, who do you
- 5:16Speaker 2: get next? And can you afford to do that? Because
- 5:19Speaker 2: we know the budget is tight, they got to come
- 5:21Speaker 2: up with this extra money he just got. Neil Brown
- 5:23Speaker 2: has got an extension of his contract for another three years,
- 5:26Speaker 2: even though he took a little bit.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Of a cut and pay. So what would that cost.
- 5:30Speaker 2: Well, my math has it at about ten million dollars
- 5:33Speaker 2: for the remainder of the contract for three years. But
- 5:37Speaker 2: you have some runway there because you don't have to
- 5:41Speaker 2: pay that all at once. You would have to pay,
- 5:43Speaker 2: according to the contract, seventy five percent of the remaining
- 5:47Speaker 2: amount for the duration of the contract, which means that
- 5:50Speaker 2: if you made a move for the next three years,
- 5:52Speaker 2: you'd have to come up with another three million dollars
- 5:55Speaker 2: to pay Neil Brown. Then you got assistance, and I
- 5:56Speaker 2: don't know what that number would be, so that makes
- 5:59Speaker 2: it a more man manageable amount. So bottom line summation,
- 6:04Speaker 2: you may have crossed the rubicon with much of mountaineer Nation,
- 6:08Speaker 2: but second of all, you're not going to get an
- 6:12Speaker 2: action by.
- 6:14Speaker 1: By Rin Baker in the middle of the season.
- 6:16Speaker 2: And also when you if you do fire coach in
- 6:18Speaker 2: the middle of the season. It immediately opens the portal,
- 6:21Speaker 2: so you would get plucked like a Thanksgiving turkey before
- 6:26Speaker 2: the season was even over. It would decimate the program.
- 6:30Speaker 2: That's my that's my Hoppies. Obvious observations, very good center.
- 6:36Speaker 3: So's a that's a more longer term view over the
- 6:38Speaker 3: next couple of months. The shorter term view is is
- 6:42Speaker 3: there enough time to turn and find some wins. You know,
- 6:45Speaker 3: we'd talked all summer that these first two months were
- 6:48Speaker 3: just brutal from a schedule standpoint, not just the non
- 6:51Speaker 3: conference schedule, but just the way this conference season opened up.
- 6:54Speaker 3: And it concludes the first two month stretch with a
- 6:57Speaker 3: trip to Arizona. That's going to be a difficult stretch,
- 7:00Speaker 3: albeit against a team that's struggling as well, that's lost
- 7:02Speaker 3: three games in a row. So there is some some
- 7:05Speaker 3: thought that you look ahead, and it's part of why
- 7:07Speaker 3: you would evaluate these at the end of the season.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Also just say, okay, finish it out here. Yeah, you've
- 7:12Speaker 3: you've you've underperformed comparative to your expectations, but there's still
- 7:17Speaker 3: games left here to see. But listen, this Arizona game
- 7:20Speaker 3: is gonna be tough, and since an Adie is better, right,
- 7:22Speaker 3: UCF probably should have had Iowa State last night, say
- 7:25Speaker 3: for a really questionable pass interference call that gave Iowa
- 7:29Speaker 3: State a chance to punch it in late. So no
- 7:31Speaker 3: gimmes coming coming in the next six games, five games whatever.
- 7:35Speaker 3: The really concerning part of this though, and we've said
- 7:39Speaker 3: this a lot, that the first few games you see
- 7:41Speaker 3: things and you can you can write them off as well.
- 7:45Speaker 3: That was a one offer that just happened in this game.
- 7:47Speaker 3: There's just two troubling themes that have developed around this team,
- 7:51Speaker 3: and these are the hard things to see fixable moving forward.
- 7:54Speaker 3: Can they be? Don't know, but here's the things, and
- 7:56Speaker 3: they're pretty obvious. The inability to prevent the big pass
- 7:59Speaker 3: place that has hurt you all season and has not improved.
- 8:04Speaker 3: It happened again last night. We'll get it down into
- 8:06Speaker 3: some of this in the first half where you were
- 8:08Speaker 3: around this in giving a shot at it. Now give it.
- 8:11Speaker 3: How it turned out, and given your injuries, the second
- 8:14Speaker 3: half probably gets away from you either way. But the
- 8:17Speaker 3: big pass plays there again, that just can't be happening
- 8:21Speaker 3: in game seven. There's just no other way to say that.
- 8:23Speaker 3: And then the turnovers. Guys, just there you are again
- 8:25Speaker 3: with turnovers and one turns into points, which is just
- 8:29Speaker 3: absolutely soul crushing to you. There's four teams in the
- 8:32Speaker 3: country with a worse turnover margin than West Virginia. Those
- 8:35Speaker 3: four teams have a record of nine to nineteen. TCU
- 8:39Speaker 3: is the only one that's above five hundred and four
- 8:41Speaker 3: and three. So it's just again, I hate to simplify it.
- 8:44Speaker 3: We can talk about some more things, but the defense's
- 8:47Speaker 3: inability to stop big pass plays and cover and the
- 8:49Speaker 3: offenses inability to keep the ball gets you where you
- 8:52Speaker 3: are at this point.
- 8:54Speaker 1: Points off turnovers last night were ten to zero rough math.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I went through this morning the remaining teams on West
- 9:02Speaker 1: Virginia's schedule. They're like three games over five hundred. I
- 9:08Speaker 1: didn't write it down. I think it's ninth. I think
- 9:09Speaker 1: they have an overall record right now of nineteen and sixteen.
- 9:12Speaker 1: So to your point, there are wins potentially that are
- 9:17Speaker 1: sitting there. However, as you look at the remaining schedule
- 9:20Speaker 1: going forward, it has changed in its perception of when
- 9:27Speaker 1: loss compared to where we were four weeks ago. Right,
- 9:30Speaker 1: you looked at it four weeks and you and you said,
- 9:33Speaker 1: you go get Cincinnati Baylor, Okay, take care of it,
- 9:36Speaker 1: you seef, take care of it. Not to say that
- 9:38Speaker 1: that's not going to happen now, but they've become more difficult.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Baylor shows it has life. It goes to Tech, it
- 9:43Speaker 1: goes to Texas Tech. That was a seminal moment yesterday
- 9:46Speaker 1: in their game, because if they would have laid down,
- 9:48Speaker 1: then they're probably their goose is cooked, right, and then
- 9:51Speaker 1: ucef you thought maybe they might be done done because
- 9:54Speaker 1: they got kicked around. Obviously, Iowa State came out flat
- 9:57Speaker 1: and as you said, they had to win, should have
- 10:01Speaker 1: had to win. And so all of a sudden that
- 10:03Speaker 1: takes on a different look. And in Texas Tech, despite
- 10:07Speaker 1: the fact that they lost, you could see, Okay, they're
- 10:09Speaker 1: they're a lot better than your thought before it scene started.
- 10:12Speaker 1: So the point all this is like, there's nothing nothing easy.
- 10:18Speaker 1: We knew the first seven games. We knew the first
- 10:20Speaker 1: seven games we're going to be the challenge, and we
- 10:24Speaker 1: said this team will define itself in the first seven games.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Really count because there's one okay on their airs on
- 10:31Speaker 1: the sure. But so that's the problem, that's the problem.
- 10:36Speaker 1: You weren't able to get enough positive out of this
- 10:39Speaker 1: first chunk going forward. So now you have this massive
- 10:44Speaker 1: moment as to which way this thing is going to swing,
- 10:47Speaker 1: because we often say teams, as the season goes on,
- 10:50Speaker 1: they get to a point they're either doing a climb
- 10:54Speaker 1: or they go off the cliff and they go down.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Well, Steve Dunlap on our coverage loves to quote don
- 10:59Speaker 2: niel and who who coached a little football, and don
- 11:01Speaker 2: Neilan would say, six games in you kind.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Of are you who you are?
- 11:05Speaker 2: And we have seen teams historically Tony West Virginia teams
- 11:10Speaker 2: that you start with expectations or then at some point
- 11:13Speaker 2: you go, you know, it's just not it's for a
- 11:15Speaker 2: variety of reasons. And spreadszone stats more that just not
- 11:18Speaker 2: going to work, just not going to happen for a
- 11:20Speaker 2: variety of reasons.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Well that's why I point out those two things. I mean,
- 11:23Speaker 3: that's that's starting to be in your DNA. But bad
- 11:26Speaker 3: pass coverage and turnovers, I mean, it's it's it's every
- 11:28Speaker 3: time we come in here after a loss, we're saying
- 11:31Speaker 3: those two things, right, and that's that's the stuff that's
- 11:33Speaker 3: hard to overcome. And listen, guys, now you're in a
- 11:35Speaker 3: position to as you look forward to try and try
- 11:38Speaker 3: and see if you can get some of this life
- 11:40Speaker 3: back in. You got all these injuries piled up. That
- 11:43Speaker 3: was an unbelievable injury game last night. Case State was
- 11:47Speaker 3: extremely physical. Sometimes those hits, I thank you my goodness.
- 11:53Speaker 3: By the way, I don't know what targeting is anymore.
- 11:54Speaker 3: It's not done trying to evaluate what targeting is. Well,
- 11:56Speaker 3: but you've you've lost some really key guys moving forward,
- 12:00Speaker 3: that becomes even more difficult. Now. You know.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Another thing about that game is that West Virginia made
- 12:06Speaker 2: a conscious decision We're gonna stop getting. We're gonna stop
- 12:09Speaker 2: the run're gonna stop Avery Johnson.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Front.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Of course, Johnson didn't run at all, I think not
- 12:13Speaker 2: one time because probably because the hip injury. But so
- 12:17Speaker 2: you say, okay, we're gonna stop the run. We're gonna
- 12:19Speaker 2: force Johnson, who hasn't been a great password to beach.
- 12:21Speaker 2: And you know what he did, lined up and beat
- 12:23Speaker 2: you made plays. So you're you're just not good enough, Brad.
- 12:28Speaker 2: You can maybe do a thing, but you're not good
- 12:31Speaker 2: enough to do more things in order to win the game.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Yeah, well you can't. You can't give away possessions and
- 12:37Speaker 3: you can't give away points that that's where that margin
- 12:39Speaker 3: for error in these games is so thin. Those are
- 12:41Speaker 3: hard to overcome. You you lose your you lose well
- 12:45Speaker 3: more than fifty percent of your games. When you throw
- 12:47Speaker 3: a pick six, your win probably belly immediately takes a
- 12:49Speaker 3: dive under fifty percent and goes down from there. So
- 12:52Speaker 3: you do that stuff, it's just hard to overcome all.
- 12:53Speaker 3: I'll go through a bunch of numbers here in a minute,
- 12:55Speaker 3: but quite frankly, it doesn't matter. Those are the two
- 12:57Speaker 3: things big pass plays, turnovers ballgame.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really hard, right, It's not.
- 13:03Speaker 3: Really hard here, and you know, last night was always
- 13:06Speaker 3: going to be a tough matchup. Personal opinion, I think
- 13:08Speaker 3: Kannastate is the best team in this league. I think
- 13:10Speaker 3: they're really good. They do some things well. The Iowa
- 13:13Speaker 3: State thing last night, hop as I was watching it,
- 13:15Speaker 3: it just it irritated me more because that was the
- 13:18Speaker 3: run defense I thought you would be able to take
- 13:20Speaker 3: advantage of. Right, UCF goes for three hundred plus almost
- 13:23Speaker 3: four hundred yards on the ground against that vaunted Iowa
- 13:26Speaker 3: State defense. They give up the run, They give up
- 13:28Speaker 3: the run, and West Virginia wasn't able to take advantage
- 13:31Speaker 3: of it. That was a week late on what those
- 13:32Speaker 3: numbers told you you could do against Iowa State. We
- 13:35Speaker 3: talked last Thursday. This was not a great matchup for
- 13:38Speaker 3: West Virginia. But defensively, and I'll get into some of this.
- 13:41Speaker 3: Defensively again, you wipe out those giant pass plays, which
- 13:44Speaker 3: you can't do because you do it every game.
- 13:46Speaker 1: You did.
- 13:47Speaker 3: You did the game plan that you want to execute
- 13:50Speaker 3: every game. What do you do best? We want to
- 13:52Speaker 3: take it away? Can you go beat us doing something
- 13:54Speaker 3: that you don't do well? Kansas State did. West Virginia
- 13:57Speaker 3: wasn't able to rant it enough in the first half
- 14:00Speaker 3: to be in it, but the mistakes set you back.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Then you have to go throw it, and West Virginia
- 14:05Speaker 3: couldn't beat Kansas State throwing it.
- 14:07Speaker 1: This will be old news by the time you'll listen
- 14:10Speaker 1: to this. But they did just release game time for Arizona. Oh,
- 14:14Speaker 1: what is it? Seven pm Eastern? Four pm Arizona time
- 14:22Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern, So that means West Virginia will play
- 14:25Speaker 1: in the light in Arizona, kick off at four o'clock. Okay,
- 14:29Speaker 1: all right, moving on spreads on stats coming up. Three
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- 16:05Speaker 1: El Senatore on numbers, Sure, he's still gathering. He's still
- 16:09Speaker 1: working on them. Last week, the numbers didn't jive with
- 16:16Speaker 1: what we saw on the field. Do these numbers jive
- 16:18Speaker 1: with what we saw in the field? My guess is yes.
- 16:20Speaker 3: Well, if you if the game stopped at halftime, they
- 16:23Speaker 3: would they would be like Iowa State numbers. You'd look
- 16:26Speaker 3: at it and go, Okay, you're right there. You're doing
- 16:27Speaker 3: exactly what you have to. The game got away from
- 16:29Speaker 3: me in the second half. They ran out of the gym.
- 16:31Speaker 3: But the first half, Yeah, there's some numbers that you're like, Man,
- 16:33Speaker 3: that which I'll get Just hit the music, I'll get
- 16:35Speaker 3: into it.
- 16:38Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, why you gotta treat me like
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- 16:42Speaker 1: Just like DJ boy.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Music, play the music, just play the quest, Just play
- 16:47Speaker 3: the music.
- 16:48Speaker 1: I'll shut up all of a sudden, It's like that
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- 17:35Speaker 3: Let's go back and talk about what we talked Thursday.
- 17:38Speaker 3: See how that's stacked up. We came into this saying
- 17:40Speaker 3: talking about the rushing game from both teams, who would
- 17:45Speaker 3: win the rushing battle? On that we said case States
- 17:47Speaker 3: opponents had averaged thirteen and a half out of sixteen
- 17:51Speaker 3: when it comes to rank of Big twelve rushing offenses.
- 17:54Speaker 3: So the thought was, what can West Virginia run here?
- 17:57Speaker 3: They're the fifth ranked rushing team. Come in this game.
- 18:00Speaker 3: Hop first half it was there ran for one hundred
- 18:02Speaker 3: and forty five yards in the first half, nearly six
- 18:05Speaker 3: yards per carry. You were executing that part of your
- 18:07Speaker 3: game plan on the flip side. On the flip side,
- 18:11Speaker 3: you had absolutely bottled up the nation's fourth leading rusher
- 18:14Speaker 3: and DJ Giddenons just couldn't do anything. You're right, hop
- 18:17Speaker 3: Avery Johnson wasn't running. We talked about that on Thursday
- 18:20Speaker 3: and speculated they may not try and run him except
- 18:23Speaker 3: in high leverage situations given the hip injury. He hadn't
- 18:26Speaker 3: carried the ball since returning from the hip or the
- 18:28Speaker 3: oblique whatever it was that they didn't against you. So
- 18:31Speaker 3: you were down. You had successfully got them to not
- 18:35Speaker 3: run their quarterback who was second league in rushing yards
- 18:37Speaker 3: for a quarterback behind Garrett, and you were handling DJ Giddens.
- 18:40Speaker 3: You were doing exactly what you had to do. The
- 18:43Speaker 3: big play got you if your k state. You look
- 18:46Speaker 3: at this first half, so West Virginia's running it and
- 18:48Speaker 3: having success there. You ran forty five percent of your
- 18:51Speaker 3: plays in Kansas State's territory in the first half. Well,
- 18:56Speaker 3: if I would have told you that on Thursday, those
- 18:58Speaker 3: two numbers, you would have said, Okay, you're right there.
- 19:00Speaker 3: In this k State had just ninety two yards of
- 19:03Speaker 3: offense in the first half. Other than that sixty yard
- 19:05Speaker 3: touchdown play, they were averaging just five yards per carry
- 19:08Speaker 3: eight rush yards on the game in the first half.
- 19:11Speaker 3: So you talk about an opportunity was there, And again,
- 19:14Speaker 3: given the way things played out and the injuries that came,
- 19:17Speaker 3: you probably don't win last night anyway. But then that
- 19:19Speaker 3: first half you were executing first half time of possession
- 19:23Speaker 3: twenty and a half minutes to nine and a half minutes.
- 19:26Speaker 3: You ran forty four plays to their nineteen. Look at
- 19:30Speaker 3: that stuff. But let's use a basketball number since basketball
- 19:32Speaker 3: seasons underway. Kansas State ten points off turnovers.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, Yeah, you're a out.
- 19:37Speaker 3: Of deflections for them. They got their hands on a
- 19:39Speaker 3: lot of balls. Yeah, led to the interceptions. Avery Johnson, Hoppy,
- 19:44Speaker 3: you said it. You lined up and said, all right,
- 19:46Speaker 3: you're not gonna beat us running the football. You're gonna
- 19:48Speaker 3: have to throw it to win. Avery Johnson was effective,
- 19:51Speaker 3: and the receivers made plays. He walked out of there
- 19:54Speaker 3: with an eighty eight grade from Pro Football Focus. That'll
- 19:57Speaker 3: end up being one of the higher quarterback grades in
- 19:59Speaker 3: college football this week. Hey, it's one of the things
- 20:02Speaker 3: they do with Avery Johnson that this is what becomes
- 20:05Speaker 3: maddening too. Not only did they big play a couple
- 20:08Speaker 3: of those times, he was fourteen of nineteen on passes
- 20:11Speaker 3: less than ten yards from the line of scrimmage. It
- 20:14Speaker 3: just sat back there and just whenever they needed, just
- 20:18Speaker 3: right up, just so they big plage you two times
- 20:20Speaker 3: when they needed it. Other than that, he's just standing
- 20:22Speaker 3: there throwing balls just underneath and brand.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Did West Virginia get any pressure on him.
- 20:28Speaker 3: No, but some of that I just said, nineteen passes
- 20:30Speaker 3: on less than ten yards, there's not time to pressure him, right,
- 20:34Speaker 3: So no, they got none. But if you're throwing the
- 20:36Speaker 3: ball and a lot of those came at the line
- 20:38Speaker 3: of scrimmage were five yards down, I'm pushing it to
- 20:41Speaker 3: go to ten. He only had eight passes of ten
- 20:44Speaker 3: yards or more beyond the line of scrimmage. He passes
- 20:47Speaker 3: didn't need to correct, We didn't run it, and still
- 20:50Speaker 3: was It was just marched down the field. So it's
- 20:51Speaker 3: almost like that was their running game.
- 20:53Speaker 1: That those little so they were going trips and they
- 20:56Speaker 1: were just you know, you talk about death by a
- 21:00Speaker 1: thousand paper cuts. Yeah, that one that just makes you scream,
- 21:04Speaker 1: absolutely makes you scream. It was just stealing five, six,
- 21:07Speaker 1: seven yards, eight yards boom.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Conversely, on the other side, West Virginia seemingly every time
- 21:12Speaker 3: they dropped back to pass there was just nobody available.
- 21:14Speaker 3: You were throwing everything into contested coverage. Receivers were having
- 21:18Speaker 3: to fight guys off to try and make catches. It
- 21:20Speaker 3: was just you just did not move the ball. You
- 21:22Speaker 3: were totally ineffective in your pass game as a as
- 21:25Speaker 3: a result, this won't surprise you. But to back up
- 21:27Speaker 3: what you saw, West Virginia with a season low on
- 21:30Speaker 3: Pro Football Focus, of the twelve categories that are graded
- 21:33Speaker 3: by Sunday morning when we record a season low, and
- 21:36Speaker 3: seven of those twelve, an eighth category was just a
- 21:39Speaker 3: tenth off. So in essence, eight categories of seasons low
- 21:43Speaker 3: across your twelve.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Do you have some of those? Like, what are those
- 21:48Speaker 1: the season loss? Yeah, yeah, standby, hop stand by, stand by,
- 21:53Speaker 1: stand by. I guess if like if we edited the podcast.
- 21:56Speaker 1: Then this time we'd like say three to two to one,
- 21:58Speaker 1: stop and then rolled again.
- 22:00Speaker 3: For all grade offensive grade, past grade, past block grade,
- 22:08Speaker 3: receiving grade, run grade, defensive grade run defensive, sorry not run,
- 22:18Speaker 3: defensive grade. Scratch. That tackling grade was the one that
- 22:21Speaker 3: was one tenth off for a team that had been
- 22:23Speaker 3: rated number one in the conference in tackling grade in
- 22:26Speaker 3: West Virginia, and then coverage grade.
- 22:28Speaker 1: West Virginia was number one according to PFF and the
- 22:31Speaker 1: conference intact. These are the top two prior to yesterday. Correct,
- 22:40Speaker 1: that's what you saw.
- 22:43Speaker 3: So there you go. I mean I have a million more.
- 22:45Speaker 3: I don't know that it matters, guys. Yeah, this is
- 22:48Speaker 3: one of those set would It just doesn't matter. There's
- 22:50Speaker 3: there's some of your numbers. You played one of your
- 22:53Speaker 3: worst games of the year, multiple starters injured in the
- 22:55Speaker 3: second half, so any life you had again, I thought, guys,
- 22:59Speaker 3: I thought you were done with the pick six. I
- 23:01Speaker 3: thought that's basically over. They did get up off the mat,
- 23:04Speaker 3: came back with the drives that you had one hundred
- 23:07Speaker 3: and sixty yards of your total offense in those two drives,
- 23:09Speaker 3: march down the field twice. I agreed with the decision
- 23:12Speaker 3: to go for it rather than kick the field goal.
- 23:14Speaker 3: You were going to have to score, and obvious, I
- 23:16Speaker 3: said at the time on our broadcast, I just thought
- 23:18Speaker 3: you had to do something unconventional to counteract really giving
- 23:22Speaker 3: up a pick six. So you had to do something
- 23:24Speaker 3: to try and take that back. That going for seven
- 23:27Speaker 3: right there would have given you a little bit of life. Again,
- 23:29Speaker 3: maybe it falls apart in the second and I.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Don't know, And just to drill down, I don't know
- 23:34Speaker 2: what went wrong with that pass, whether Garrett didn't see him,
- 23:36Speaker 2: but I mean Cole Taylor.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Was, he was open. So Neil addressed that postgame press conference,
- 23:41Speaker 1: and I hadn't thought about this potential up until that,
- 23:44Speaker 1: But Garrett very well could have been concussed prior to that,
- 23:49Speaker 1: and he could have been who knows when you're out there.
- 23:52Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have an idea that he was
- 23:54Speaker 1: at that point. He might be running out there and
- 23:56Speaker 1: who knows what's going on in his head. But yeah,
- 23:58Speaker 1: obviously it was a good call. Cole Taylor was there
- 24:01Speaker 1: for it. Couldn't deliver the ball, so that would have
- 24:04Speaker 1: tied it up.
- 24:04Speaker 3: You're right, it was a nice little there. Was a
- 24:06Speaker 3: little pick play kind of that was there for one
- 24:08Speaker 3: of the few times all night officials did not throw
- 24:10Speaker 3: a flag, so they didn't see that and Cole Taylor
- 24:12Speaker 3: sprung open. Garrett did have some traffic in front of him,
- 24:15Speaker 3: So even if there wasn't an injury situation, there's traffic
- 24:18Speaker 3: and it just wasn't execute.
- 24:20Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that that Green got a can cust.
- 24:23Speaker 2: I mean, he was brutalized in the first half.
- 24:26Speaker 1: I think this. I think that so your point, Brad,
- 24:29Speaker 1: that West Virginia ran for one hundred and fifty yards
- 24:31Speaker 1: one hundred fifty, one hundred and fifty five what was it,
- 24:34Speaker 1: one hundred and forty five hundred what you're going in
- 24:36Speaker 1: the first half. Yeah, but Garrett had eighty eight of
- 24:39Speaker 1: those correct. Okay, So West Virginia's plan was, Okay, Kansas State,
- 24:43Speaker 1: you're not going to run it. Correct. I think Kansas
- 24:45Speaker 1: State's plan was, to an extent, Okay, when Garrett Green
- 24:50Speaker 1: runs it, we are going to absolutely punish him. We're
- 24:54Speaker 1: going to absolutely punish him and try to take him
- 24:57Speaker 1: out of the game. And they were successful in doing that.
- 25:00Speaker 1: There was the replay that television kept showing with Mott
- 25:03Speaker 1: their defensive end after the pick, driving them down.
- 25:06Speaker 3: I don't know how that's not a flag nant.
- 25:07Speaker 1: Yeah, driving them down into the ground. I mean, that
- 25:10Speaker 1: was their intent. Nico then just took a helmet full
- 25:13Speaker 1: later in the game in.
- 25:14Speaker 3: The chin and that's not targeting, but yes.
- 25:16Speaker 1: And they don't wave it off, So like, I mean,
- 25:19Speaker 1: I get it. That was their intent to physically hurt you,
- 25:25Speaker 1: and I get it. And that's football. I mean, you know,
- 25:27Speaker 1: don't think West Virginia doesn't go out there trying to
- 25:29Speaker 1: do the same thing. But they were successful in doing it,
- 25:32Speaker 1: and as a result, everything went spiraling down.
- 25:34Speaker 3: Both teams had the right plan, because West Virginia's plan is, Okay,
- 25:38Speaker 3: you're gonna put your guys on an island and drop
- 25:40Speaker 3: everybody down and run support and you're gonna try and
- 25:42Speaker 3: play man. Then what does that open up? If you're
- 25:44Speaker 3: gonna pin your ears and just come straight at the
- 25:46Speaker 3: quarterback like they were, what's that open up? That's why
- 25:49Speaker 3: quarterback draws and runs. So the counter to the way
- 25:53Speaker 3: Kansas State wanted to play aggressive defense is you run
- 25:55Speaker 3: your quarterback, and the risk reward there is That's what
- 25:58Speaker 3: Kansas State's saying is okay, you want to run your quarterback,
- 26:01Speaker 3: then we're going to make him pay physically. West Virginia's
- 26:03Speaker 3: risk is we've got to run our quarterback. He's our
- 26:06Speaker 3: most dynamic playmaker, and the defense is dictating that that
- 26:09Speaker 3: is going to be available. Well, guess what was available
- 26:12Speaker 3: Garret running football. He'd make a lot of plays with
- 26:14Speaker 3: his feet right, and just unfortunately the number of hits
- 26:16Speaker 3: that came prevented him from being able to continue. Now,
- 26:19Speaker 3: you hope the kids all right moving forward?
- 26:21Speaker 1: Certainly? Yeah, I mean it was it took.
- 26:23Speaker 3: That's as hard as a quarterback's been hit in a
- 26:27Speaker 3: long long time.
- 26:27Speaker 1: Yeah. And to your point, you don't know, right Wyatt
- 26:31Speaker 1: mile Im Jaheem White and Garrett Green and Neil said this.
- 26:34Speaker 1: He addressed it known. When they come out, they say
- 26:37Speaker 1: upper body injury, Garrett and Neil said head injury. He said, yeah,
- 26:41Speaker 1: he did say head injury. So we're talking about concussions.
- 26:44Speaker 1: They were ruled out in some form. So now what
- 26:47Speaker 1: happens is they do their base testing before the season
- 26:50Speaker 1: ever starts, and now these guys are going to be
- 26:52Speaker 1: tested and whether or not they get cleared to go
- 26:55Speaker 1: again this coming week or is it two weeks, don't know,
- 26:59Speaker 1: but that's the reason. In addition to a couple of
- 27:03Speaker 1: defensive linemen were also lost. You started the game without
- 27:06Speaker 1: Aubrey Burks, without Aiden Garns.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Jackson super limited. He tried to go.
- 27:11Speaker 1: He tried. Give that kid a ton of credit. He
- 27:14Speaker 1: looked like Red Fox out there. Remember Red Fox? Remember
- 27:17Speaker 1: that show? What was that show called Sanford and Son? Right,
- 27:20Speaker 1: he's dragging his leg like, just trying to get off
- 27:23Speaker 1: the field here and it just give the kid credit.
- 27:26Speaker 1: He tried all night long.
- 27:28Speaker 3: I'd say the same about Garrett too. In fact, that
- 27:31Speaker 3: Garrett kept getting up and going back in there with
- 27:33Speaker 3: that the abuse he was taking. Give him a lot
- 27:35Speaker 3: of credit for that. But man, that was those were
- 27:37Speaker 3: some hits. So anyway, so the point of those numbers
- 27:39Speaker 3: just showed you that the first half was there for
- 27:41Speaker 3: the taking, and you just couldn't. You just couldn't overcome
- 27:45Speaker 3: the two things that have plagued you all season.
- 27:48Speaker 1: All right, spreads on stats brought to us by Conley Cpiegor.
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- 27:56Speaker 1: that have made it would make any.
- 27:57Speaker 3: Doesn't doesn't make a difference.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Negative.
- 27:59Speaker 3: Yeah, for the dead of the order, don't need to
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- 28:48Speaker 1: So I was thinking earlier today when I was copying
- 28:54Speaker 1: and pasting the texts that come in. They come in
- 28:58Speaker 1: on our Google text line and then we uh on
- 29:01Speaker 1: the Google on the Google machine, and then I and
- 29:03Speaker 1: I paste them over. So when I when I sat
- 29:11Speaker 1: down early this morning to start doing the copy and paste, like,
- 29:14Speaker 1: I went to myself and went like, well, this is
- 29:17Speaker 1: gonna this is gonna be fun. So the reality of it,
- 29:20Speaker 1: the reality of it is is is this. So. I
- 29:22Speaker 1: don't remember when when textual healing started. I don't remember
- 29:27Speaker 1: if it was football or basketball season, but the way
- 29:30Speaker 1: that it started was something wasn't going well and I said,
- 29:35Speaker 1: you know, we need we need some healing. I mean,
- 29:37Speaker 1: we need we need some textual here. I just set
- 29:39Speaker 1: it off off the cuff. I said, we need textual healings.
- 29:42Speaker 1: Let's see what people have to say. That's how this
- 29:43Speaker 1: thing started. It was it was anngst. It was it
- 29:47Speaker 1: was ankst driven and over the over the years, I
- 29:51Speaker 1: guess now the thing. The thing has grown. And I
- 29:56Speaker 1: haven't talked with these guys about this yet. The thing
- 29:59Speaker 1: has grown and a couple things, one game related and
- 30:05Speaker 1: the other was non game related stuff. So I've had
- 30:09Speaker 1: kind of I don't know if I want to call
- 30:10Speaker 1: these epiphanies, but I've got I've got two thoughts about this.
- 30:13Speaker 1: One is obviously coming off of the loss. An extreme
- 30:20Speaker 1: number majority of the texts basically are saying the same thing,
- 30:27Speaker 1: and so we could you could, you could read all
- 30:33Speaker 1: of them, but they're the same thing, right. Everyone continues
- 30:36Speaker 1: to point out the record against teams that are ranked
- 30:42Speaker 1: the overall record. I mean, it just is a continuing
- 30:45Speaker 1: theme and theme and theme. So you could read all
- 30:49Speaker 1: of those. But I think that what I'd like to
- 30:53Speaker 1: do is just address them, you know, in a chunk,
- 30:57Speaker 1: rather than doing all that's one thing. The other thing,
- 31:02Speaker 1: And again this is something I haven't talked to these
- 31:03Speaker 1: guys about. This could this bread. Could this maybe set
- 31:09Speaker 1: set some trouble up here? What we don't know what
- 31:12Speaker 1: it is. So I don't know what it is, but
- 31:14Speaker 1: you are you nervous a little bit when I say
- 31:16Speaker 1: I got something that I haven't talked with about these guys.
- 31:18Speaker 3: At this point, because you just say it anyway. So
- 31:19Speaker 3: we'll ad just after you say it.
- 31:22Speaker 1: Just so this is hard, opponent adjusted, so so that
- 31:25Speaker 1: this next part, this next part is hard. It's it's
- 31:29Speaker 1: all buddy, No, It's it's kind of like, hey, listen,
- 31:31Speaker 1: need a hug. No, it's kind of like, hey, listen,
- 31:33Speaker 1: we had a great relationship that I want to see
- 31:36Speaker 1: other people. It's not you, it's me. It's not you.
- 31:39Speaker 1: It's not you, it's not me. So we get these
- 31:45Speaker 1: we get these wonderful, heartfelt messages that are sent by
- 31:52Speaker 1: people about you know, connection coming to the food court
- 32:00Speaker 1: and you I got this great story and to you,
- 32:02Speaker 1: it is a great story, right, and it's your special
- 32:05Speaker 1: story and that's awesome. But I also have kind of
- 32:08Speaker 1: again just me, I've also reached my point with that too.
- 32:12Speaker 1: It's kind of like, Okay, I get it, I understand it.
- 32:17Speaker 1: And so we'll show some of the pictures from the
- 32:22Speaker 1: food court, and you know it's kind of like this picture.
- 32:26Speaker 1: This person stands next to this person and they hold
- 32:29Speaker 1: the beer can and they had a thing like Okay, fine,
- 32:32Speaker 1: I think we'll expedite. We'll expedite that. I can't like
- 32:37Speaker 1: everyone's got their things. So what we'll do maybe is
- 32:40Speaker 1: we'll build a montage and just say, hey, we were
- 32:42Speaker 1: at the food court and here's a lot of people
- 32:44Speaker 1: that had a lot of fun. And that's good because
- 32:48Speaker 1: I get it. I think that it gets tiring. So like,
- 32:52Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't talk to these guys about that,
- 32:54Speaker 1: but it's like, Okay, been there, done that, thanks for coming,
- 32:58Speaker 1: thanks for having us.
- 32:59Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when you're the sort of the executive producer,
- 33:02Speaker 2: I wouldn't go that far. Well, probably would.
- 33:04Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far anyway, So let's do this.
- 33:08Speaker 3: I did talk some great people on Saturday.
- 33:10Speaker 1: I talked to some great people on Friday.
- 33:12Speaker 3: I had fun.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I had fun too. I don't know what Tony's problem is.
- 33:15Speaker 2: He's not having fun anymore. I think I think.
- 33:20Speaker 3: You had a lot of good conversations Saturday, did you.
- 33:22Speaker 1: I had a lot. Yeah, it's not listen, it's not
- 33:25Speaker 1: that I enjoy it.
- 33:26Speaker 2: I just you just had a Freudian slip. He said,
- 33:29Speaker 2: it's not that I enjoy it. No, it's not that
- 33:31Speaker 2: I don't enjoy it. It's just that I think from again,
- 33:35Speaker 2: I'm putting myself in the listeners, like if I'm listening
- 33:39Speaker 2: to this podcast, like it kind of sounds the same.
- 33:44Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well you you've done so, you've dug your hole.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Go ahead, No I care, that's fine. I want to
- 33:49Speaker 1: be the first time I'll dig myself out of it.
- 33:52Speaker 1: So what I want to use and I'm going to
- 33:54Speaker 1: I've got some like if it's super super super good,
- 33:58Speaker 1: like I got some stuff that's good in here today
- 34:02Speaker 1: that's really meaningful stuff like like a big stuff. But
- 34:05Speaker 1: if it's just like hey, I saw happy he looks
- 34:10Speaker 1: older in person than like, I'm probably use that like
- 34:14Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Like I just go like, okay,
- 34:16Speaker 1: fine whatever, Just I just want good stuff, all right,
- 34:20Speaker 1: If that's fine. I mean, that's fine. I mean I've
- 34:22Speaker 1: even I've even considered, like considered maybe there's like the
- 34:27Speaker 1: ten best texts. Well, I would say, can I say
- 34:31Speaker 1: one other thing whichever you want? Is that.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Is that this this show and connection three four and
- 34:38Speaker 2: Homeless Dave and Revkev and the Tailgate. I mean, it's
- 34:43Speaker 2: created something. It we're very we're very fortunate that it's
- 34:48Speaker 2: created a community, okay, And we exist to do this
- 34:54Speaker 2: podcast because there is this community and that that's important,
- 34:59Speaker 2: that needs to be that needs to be valued. And
- 35:01Speaker 2: I'm not saying you'resting it. And I think that the
- 35:04Speaker 2: fact that people take the time to come to the
- 35:06Speaker 2: Tailgate or send us texts or or or talk to
- 35:09Speaker 2: us and the Kroger indicates that that there's this community
- 35:14Speaker 2: and people want to be part of it. And I
- 35:15Speaker 2: think that has tremendous value.
- 35:17Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I don't disagree. What I'm saying is
- 35:19Speaker 1: not everyone's text is getting red. Okay, Well you could
- 35:22Speaker 1: just said that ten minutes ago. I mean, that's just
- 35:24Speaker 1: it's like, okay, anyway, I guess probably didn't do a
- 35:31Speaker 1: good job of being clear on that. What I'm saying is, well,
- 35:34Speaker 1: you you right now? Are you just taking pages out? No?
- 35:40Speaker 1: For some reason, it kept printing all these empties. There's
- 35:42Speaker 1: all that I did that. I'm sorry, they're all blank. Well, okay,
- 35:46Speaker 1: so let's do get in touch with Comax. Well, all right,
- 35:51Speaker 1: big topic stuff first back to football, then we'll do
- 35:54Speaker 1: the other stuff. And you kind of addressed us earlier
- 35:59Speaker 1: and when you started off, and that is, you know,
- 36:01Speaker 1: we're just talking about basic themes you talked about, you know,
- 36:06Speaker 1: the record, the perception, the momentum, the belief, the non belief.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Where are we, what's happening? Obviously we have reached a
- 36:17Speaker 1: pivotal a pivotal moment to the rubicon, the rubicon, and
- 36:23Speaker 1: you know, so I guess kind of how we're already addressed,
- 36:26Speaker 1: you know, what you think potentially is going to happen
- 36:30Speaker 1: in the sense of what our options to happen as
- 36:32Speaker 1: the season.
- 36:32Speaker 2: Goes right right, Happy to restate at some point with
- 36:35Speaker 2: a different angle if that comes up. But that's where
- 36:37Speaker 2: I think, that's where I'm confident things are.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's kind of generally where we are as
- 36:43Speaker 1: a whole. Like for for folks that I think that
- 36:46Speaker 1: are thinking that something is going to be done in
- 36:50Speaker 1: regard to a review in the middle of the season,
- 36:53Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. Well, there there's always a review.
- 36:57Speaker 1: I'm saying, a decision, a decision. I think the big
- 37:00Speaker 1: one of the biggest things that you said is. I
- 37:01Speaker 1: think sometimes folks forget that if you were to make
- 37:04Speaker 1: any decisions regarding your coach anywhere, the thirty day window
- 37:09Speaker 1: opens in the transfer portal, and you know, there are
- 37:13Speaker 1: just certain things that you would be pulling a trigger
- 37:18Speaker 1: and blowing something up that would make not a whole
- 37:22Speaker 1: lot of sense.
- 37:23Speaker 2: And Ren Baker, we know Ren Baker well enough to
- 37:26Speaker 2: know this, and that is he wants Neil Brown to
- 37:29Speaker 2: win like everybody else. But Brad, he's not just sitting
- 37:33Speaker 2: there myopically thinking Neil Brown has to win and I
- 37:37Speaker 2: have no other option. His job is to think is
- 37:41Speaker 2: to play chess correct.
- 37:43Speaker 3: Yeah it is, and that's why he's doing and he's
- 37:44Speaker 3: playing this out and he'll look at it. But also remember, guys,
- 37:46Speaker 3: it was just six months ago that Ren thought enough
- 37:49Speaker 3: of what was happening in the program to offer a
- 37:51Speaker 3: new contract right and change that. So that's part of
- 37:54Speaker 3: it too. That's why it's your six weeks into this,
- 37:57Speaker 3: seven weeks into this keeps seeing where it's going and
- 37:59Speaker 3: can't be something that can continue on or do you
- 38:02Speaker 3: have to make a change.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Right Lewis and Louisbourg, I'm a realistic fan. I know
- 38:05Speaker 1: eight and four nine and three is a really good
- 38:06Speaker 1: season for West Virginia. But at this point watching the
- 38:09Speaker 1: Mountaineers like having to drive ten miles to get to
- 38:11Speaker 1: your destination, but you only got enough gas for nine.
- 38:14Speaker 1: You hope that you can drift, go downhill, catch a
- 38:16Speaker 1: tail wind, but you deep down you know you're gonna
- 38:19Speaker 1: come up short. Lewis in Louisbourg next, Texter. I thought
- 38:24Speaker 1: the offense would be our strength this year. Texter. Here
- 38:31Speaker 1: you go Friday evening, pre game, pre UC game, pre
- 38:38Speaker 1: UC game. Oh, I see basketball, Dave, Mike from Myrtle,
- 38:41Speaker 1: the Dean and Dan Heinzman. After some Rev keV barbecue
- 38:44Speaker 1: and wings connection. Three oh four, there you go, Hoppy
- 38:46Speaker 1: and the new guy the Jakes pregame signed by Mike.
- 38:51Speaker 1: Not in myrtle.
- 38:53Speaker 3: Those are pictures.
- 38:53Speaker 1: There were some pictures, but they're not there. Okay, uh,
- 38:57Speaker 1: good evening, guys. My wife and I finally made it
- 38:59Speaker 1: to rev K didn't disappoint. Food outstanding followed up a
- 39:04Speaker 1: couple of beers I stood by. A young gentleman approached
- 39:06Speaker 1: us and said he was impressed by my full sleeve
- 39:08Speaker 1: tattoo was awesome and was thinking about getting his first tattoo.
- 39:12Speaker 1: The three of us spoke. It turned out we all
- 39:13Speaker 1: had similar life experiences. Were both in West Virginia, both
- 39:16Speaker 1: went to West Virginia. We all call Morgantown home. All
- 39:19Speaker 1: three of us have had our ups and downs, as
- 39:21Speaker 1: most do. We refreshing to hear his perspective on life.
- 39:23Speaker 1: As gentleman is from the eastern Panhandle, while I grew
- 39:26Speaker 1: up in the southern part of the state, owned some
- 39:28Speaker 1: property in Summers County. Was both grown up around cattle.
- 39:32Speaker 1: We both put our fair share of hay away. I
- 39:34Speaker 1: guess you could say it was a West Virginia connection.
- 39:36Speaker 1: As you may have guessed, I was speaking to your
- 39:39Speaker 1: very own Hoppy Kerchival. An absolute pleasure speaking with Hoppy.
- 39:43Speaker 1: We appreciated him taking time to make his rounds. Although
- 39:46Speaker 1: I may have caught him off guard when I jokingly
- 39:48Speaker 1: introduced myself as Andy kottel Nikki. He did love the show.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Let's go him out in here as wild Bill and
- 39:53Speaker 1: wonderful k and Morgantown.
- 39:55Speaker 2: We had to go ahead, brandam oh God, well, just
- 39:57Speaker 2: we had a great visit. And that's one of the
- 39:59Speaker 2: great things. Connection three or four to tailgates you as
- 40:02Speaker 2: you meet people he didn't know previously, and had a
- 40:04Speaker 2: wonderful visit with with Bill and Kay and they'd been
- 40:07Speaker 2: married for about a year and we just exchanged life stories.
- 40:11Speaker 2: You know, people are interesting and if you just you
- 40:16Speaker 2: and I think at West Virginia it's okay with asking
- 40:18Speaker 2: personal questions and sharing some personal information. So within fifteen
- 40:22Speaker 2: minutes you get life stories, which I think are fascinating.
- 40:25Speaker 1: Yeah, and he said something in there that you're contemplating
- 40:28Speaker 1: a tattoo.
- 40:28Speaker 2: Well, I thought he had a wonderful sleeve and had
- 40:31Speaker 2: all West Virginia like WVU and the black Bear and
- 40:36Speaker 2: the Monarch Butterfly and the Cardinal. It was really fantastic.
- 40:41Speaker 2: And you know, I think about it from timetime, but
- 40:43Speaker 2: I thought, I'm almost seventy when I'm going to tattoo now,
- 40:45Speaker 2: so I probably won't. But his wife had some ink
- 40:48Speaker 2: as well, But it was it was just I just
- 40:51Speaker 2: I like talking to people.
- 40:51Speaker 1: You should get one. I'm tear drop ones right underneath
- 40:53Speaker 1: your eye.
- 40:54Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking about getting a something on my neck.
- 40:58Speaker 2: I think neck tattoo.
- 41:00Speaker 3: Thank goodness, I'm glad you had a wonderful conversation. But thank goodness,
- 41:02Speaker 3: he mentioned Daniel Andy kotel Nikki.
- 41:04Speaker 1: I know, how was it?
- 41:05Speaker 3: He had a streak alive. Well done he did.
- 41:07Speaker 2: He introduced himself and and I looked at him, and
- 41:09Speaker 2: he did catch me off cars.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Well done by owner. Three guys. Brought to us by
- 41:13Speaker 1: Lou Wendell Marine Sales, the largest pontoon boat dealer in
- 41:16Speaker 1: West Virginia. Family owned for four decades, lou Wendell recognized
- 41:20Speaker 1: as a State of West Virginia's experts pontoon boating, the
- 41:23Speaker 1: biggest dealer in the state selling those avalon boats, considered
- 41:26Speaker 1: among the best on the market, manufactured one hundred percent
- 41:30Speaker 1: right here in the United States. They were founded in
- 41:32Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three and they're still made to this day
- 41:34Speaker 1: in Michigan. By the way. So you know a mountaineer
- 41:38Speaker 1: fan Hammer, right Bred Hammer, you know Hammer. So Hammer
- 41:42Speaker 1: comes up to me the other day and he's got
- 41:44Speaker 1: a pontoon that lives in Cheat Lake. Sure, and he said,
- 41:48Speaker 1: I'm going to go to lou Wendell and they got
- 41:51Speaker 1: these they sell these avalon boats. And I said, yeah,
- 41:54Speaker 1: I said, Now you see that lady's sitting right over there.
- 41:56Speaker 1: She's friends with the avalons. He said, get out of here.
- 42:00Speaker 1: I said, yeah, from Michigan. Go over there and talk
- 42:01Speaker 1: to her and he hit it up with her. This.
- 42:03Speaker 3: Where was that at the game.
- 42:05Speaker 1: At the Neils coach's talk. Yeah, so there we go.
- 42:09Speaker 2: And now that this has become a thing, you go
- 42:13Speaker 2: there and you see people. Now you see people all
- 42:15Speaker 2: the time, and you feel like it's right brand, Like, hey, agree,
- 42:20Speaker 2: there's the clements, you know what, you hang out and
- 42:22Speaker 2: in this past week I think that homeless Dave did this.
- 42:25Speaker 1: There were there were some camping chairs and a fire
- 42:28Speaker 1: at the fire and a fire going.
- 42:30Speaker 3: It's like being on your back patio.
- 42:31Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was. It was a nice touch. Yeah,
- 42:36Speaker 1: Dave doesn't miss no. Okay. So when I said, well anyway,
- 42:42Speaker 1: I'll do that in a second for spreads with your
- 42:44Speaker 1: twenty five different analytics subscriptions, I'm curious, what's the success
- 42:48Speaker 1: rate on our screen passes?
- 42:52Speaker 3: I can't pull that up quickly. I can effort that.
- 42:56Speaker 3: I can't get that.
- 42:57Speaker 1: Also, I was listening to the basketball post game Friday night.
- 43:00Speaker 1: Someone mentioned how good teams make easy things look really easy,
- 43:05Speaker 1: and that the basketball team did that, albeit against lesser competition. Unfortunately,
- 43:10Speaker 1: this football team makes the easy things look very very hard.
- 43:16Speaker 1: All right, So here's a really good text coming up. Hey,
- 43:21Speaker 1: three guys. I'm sorry for the long text, but this
- 43:23Speaker 1: is a really cool story. If you remember, I wrote
- 43:25Speaker 1: into the show during the summer series while my son
- 43:28Speaker 1: was having major open heart surgery in Philadelphia. Fast forward
- 43:33Speaker 1: a few months, my son was chosen to participate in
- 43:37Speaker 1: a special program Virginia Tech and the clinic partner in
- 43:41Speaker 1: many of the areas of the medical field. My son
- 43:43Speaker 1: was selected to be one of the children to participate
- 43:46Speaker 1: in the T shirt design and swap with a Virginia
- 43:49Speaker 1: Tech player. A huge shout out to Nick Gallo for
- 43:52Speaker 1: being such an awesome guy and for just loving on
- 43:55Speaker 1: my son. This past Thursday, which was my birthday, my
- 43:57Speaker 1: son got to be an honorary captain for the Boston
- 44:00Speaker 1: College Virginia Tech game. He and I got to go
- 44:03Speaker 1: to the sideline for warm ups, pregame, and her sin
- 44:06Speaker 1: and he was then recognized and honored on the field
- 44:08Speaker 1: for his heroics. He's such a warrior and inspiration. During
- 44:11Speaker 1: our visit, we were treated like kings, met Michael Vick,
- 44:14Speaker 1: even the Hokey Bird. It's a very special and memorable event.
- 44:17Speaker 1: Now there is a West Virginia connection. Though our Virginia
- 44:20Speaker 1: Tech guide was the daughter of two dou WV grads,
- 44:23Speaker 1: a big time mountaineer. Of course she was. We got
- 44:25Speaker 1: to talk mountaineer football during our visit. Of course, to
- 44:28Speaker 1: be courteous, we wore Virginia Tech gear, but underneath I
- 44:33Speaker 1: wore WUVU gear. We always have to represent. Then came Saturday,
- 44:38Speaker 1: and yeah, that happens, so we won't talk about that.
- 44:40Speaker 1: I've attached some pictures from the event. I thought Matt
- 44:44Speaker 1: from Tulser was going to just own his own brother
- 44:46Speaker 1: for wearing Virginia Tech gear. There you go, take a look.
- 44:49Speaker 1: So he's got the hokey stuff, but underneath he's got
- 44:51Speaker 1: the WV None of that matters though when it comes
- 44:54Speaker 1: to kids, as always, let's go mountaineers. Then from Roanoke
- 44:59Speaker 1: kind of puts it in prospect. Yeah how about that. So
- 45:01Speaker 1: major heart surgery and then he had a T shirt
- 45:04Speaker 1: designed contest and they took good care of him down
- 45:08Speaker 1: there in Blacksburg. And there he is on the big
- 45:10Speaker 1: screen before the game, and there's Michael Vick saying hello,
- 45:16Speaker 1: that's awesome, and the bird and the bird the hooky.
- 45:20Speaker 1: It is kind of neat though it underneath that he's
- 45:22Speaker 1: got not near stuff.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Kind of probably best also to keep that on the
- 45:26Speaker 2: down low when you're there, all.
- 45:28Speaker 1: Right, Texter, I'm not here to place blame or pretend
- 45:31Speaker 1: that I've got answers, because that's not helpful. I'll simply
- 45:34Speaker 1: state what myself and most others likely feel as well.
- 45:39Speaker 1: The second half was embarrassing. It's sad that we had
- 45:42Speaker 1: a primetime, nationally TV televised game and put on that
- 45:45Speaker 1: type of a performance. The classic uniforms only made me
- 45:48Speaker 1: long for the good old days even more, hoping those
- 45:50Speaker 1: days come again sooner than later. Josh and Mason, Texter,
- 45:55Speaker 1: Brad and Charleston Rights, Well, that sucked. At least Philip
- 46:00Speaker 1: Bowen showed up. There is Philip Bowen. Didn't you all
- 46:04Speaker 1: have a meeting with Philip Bowen a Friday? Well, I
- 46:07Speaker 1: wouldn't call it a meeting. I mean it was a
- 46:10Speaker 1: It was a hello. He's a great guy. He stopped by.
- 46:13Speaker 3: He and his brother stopped by. It was nice to
- 46:15Speaker 3: see him. Ask where how he was?
- 46:16Speaker 1: Yeah, they did ask. We're happy with so Philip Bowen
- 46:20Speaker 1: one of the great musicians here from West Virginia. And
- 46:25Speaker 1: I didn't realize his brothers. His brother I d d
- 46:27Speaker 1: himself as a P one listener.
- 46:29Speaker 3: Really yeah, it was very nice.
- 46:30Speaker 2: He's a fantastic musician. I've interviewed him a couple of times.
- 46:33Speaker 2: Great guy he is. He is amazing. Uh Texter high
- 46:37Speaker 2: three guys love the show. I on from Morgantown, graduated
- 46:40Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. My dad's been to every home game
- 46:43Speaker 2: since nineteen eighty something, hasn't missed one out near football
- 46:46Speaker 2: a constant for my family. So my husband and I
- 46:48Speaker 2: couldn't imagine a better place to drop our news than
- 46:51Speaker 2: at our tailgate this weekend. We are pregnant and the
- 46:55Speaker 2: newest Mountaineer will be with us next season.
- 46:58Speaker 1: I love the show. Listen reminds me of home while
- 47:01Speaker 1: living in Enemy Country also known as Pittsburgh. Signed by
- 47:04Speaker 1: Miranda from Morgantown.
- 47:06Speaker 3: Whole cool.
- 47:06Speaker 1: Right when you are the tailgating, someone says, hey, we've
- 47:08Speaker 1: got some got some news. We got a whole fertility
- 47:11Speaker 1: thing going there at three guys there.
- 47:13Speaker 3: Are well, I don't know you can take credit for that?
- 47:16Speaker 1: What are you saying? What does that mean?
- 47:18Speaker 3: Well, well, congratulations to Miranda and you know her family.
- 47:22Speaker 3: But I don't know that credit.
- 47:24Speaker 2: Okay, I might have overstepped my bounds there, but now
- 47:27Speaker 2: I love it when people come with their families because
- 47:30Speaker 2: at Friday there was a couple there who've come who
- 47:34Speaker 2: bring their baby who I think is three months old, Claire.
- 47:37Speaker 2: And then Friday there was a couple there that had
- 47:40Speaker 2: a seven week old baby seven weeks.
- 47:44Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
- 47:45Speaker 2: And her sister was there and had two young boys
- 47:48Speaker 2: who had I think they had I think they hit
- 47:50Speaker 2: the sugar man. They were just like crushing the places,
- 47:53Speaker 2: running around.
- 47:54Speaker 1: They were nuts. But it was an and that's a
- 47:57Speaker 1: family atmosphere. But it's nice. But a seven week old baby. Wow? Yeah,
- 48:03Speaker 1: you know what we haven't done? What basketball?
- 48:07Speaker 3: Yeah? Good start to the Darren DeVries era. You want to.
- 48:10Speaker 1: You didn't roll any numbers on that, yeah, I mean
- 48:12Speaker 1: there's nothing available on your megasystems.
- 48:15Speaker 3: The really good stuff's not available yet. Okay. In chart exhibitions,
- 48:19Speaker 3: I thought it was, especially the first half the way
- 48:21Speaker 3: you came out. And I give a lot of credit
- 48:23Speaker 3: to Charleston for playing the game only ten practices. James
- 48:26Speaker 3: Long new coach, So that's a charl let's start there.
- 48:28Speaker 3: That's a Charleston team that I think in the MEC
- 48:31Speaker 3: by the time the tournament rolls around, that's going to
- 48:32Speaker 3: be a really good Charleston team. But West Virginia did
- 48:35Speaker 3: in that game what you wanted to see it do
- 48:37Speaker 3: against a team it should beat. But it came out
- 48:41Speaker 3: and you know, one of the things we've been talking
- 48:42Speaker 3: about here up until this first game is with Darren,
- 48:46Speaker 3: the intensity and the effort, especially on the defensive end,
- 48:48Speaker 3: is going to be a hallmark, right, That's one thing
- 48:50Speaker 3: that he does not bend on. Man, did you see
- 48:52Speaker 3: that in the first half? They came out and in
- 48:54Speaker 3: particular when you talk about an individual defender, Sincere Harris
- 48:58Speaker 3: was absolutely a dude defensively, that led to some great
- 49:02Speaker 3: team defense. It led to a smothering defensive performance there
- 49:05Speaker 3: in the first half, made it really difficult for Charleston
- 49:08Speaker 3: to get the offense going. Then on the offensive side
- 49:10Speaker 3: of things, Tony, I thought they shot it extremely well
- 49:12Speaker 3: seven of sixteen from three in the first half. Then
- 49:15Speaker 3: you got into the second half and I think a
- 49:16Speaker 3: little bit of that adrenaline kind of wore off. That
- 49:19Speaker 3: effort that you put in in the first half defensively
- 49:22Speaker 3: affected some of the shooting in the second, but overall,
- 49:25Speaker 3: tremendous game. Got everybody in. Everybody on the roster got
- 49:28Speaker 3: in and had a chance to play on the coliseum floor,
- 49:30Speaker 3: and just a tremendous start in an exhibition game. Albeit,
- 49:34Speaker 3: I know the Big twelve is going to bring up
- 49:35Speaker 3: some opponents that are going to be extremely difficult, but
- 49:37Speaker 3: that's how you want to start that exhibition game.
- 49:39Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. They took what they were
- 49:42Speaker 1: doing on the practice floor and they brought it to
- 49:44Speaker 1: the game floor.
- 49:45Speaker 3: Good way I said that.
- 49:45Speaker 1: Yeah, So they as time goes on their offense, they'll
- 49:50Speaker 1: distribute the ball and they'll move the ball. Well, they
- 49:52Speaker 1: run good stuff. It looks good, right, there's a great
- 49:57Speaker 1: feel to it. Just for example, let's talk about the
- 50:00Speaker 1: very first play of the game. Yeah, right, very first
- 50:02Speaker 1: play of the game. They run an NBA set and
- 50:06Speaker 1: it leads to a wide open three.
- 50:08Speaker 3: Maybe had Tucker bring the ball up the floor hoppy
- 50:10Speaker 3: and they put your point guard Javon Small as the screener.
- 50:13Speaker 3: Normally it's the big that screens and then rolls. This
- 50:16Speaker 3: is a little ode to Steve current stuff. Curry did
- 50:18Speaker 3: this in tm USA worked out tremiously well. You let
- 50:20Speaker 3: Javon Small set the screen, then he rolls for the
- 50:23Speaker 3: open three. Got it on the first possession. You come
- 50:25Speaker 3: back later in the half, run the same thing. Charleston
- 50:28Speaker 3: reacted appropriately and said, you're not going to shoot a
- 50:30Speaker 3: three on that. We know what's coming. Jumped on the shooter,
- 50:33Speaker 3: opened up the back door. Cut there, passed from Small
- 50:35Speaker 3: to de free. So just little stuff like that. If
- 50:38Speaker 3: you're watching, you saw really good stuff in a basket
- 50:40Speaker 3: made on the first possession of the game to open
- 50:43Speaker 3: the second half, coming out of a timeout. There was
- 50:45Speaker 3: some neat stuff run. So if you're a basketball geek
- 50:47Speaker 3: in terms of the stuff that's run, right, what do
- 50:50Speaker 3: we say about a coach the highest compliment is he
- 50:52Speaker 3: runs good stuff. There was some good stuff being run.
- 50:54Speaker 1: It was fun.
- 50:54Speaker 3: Yeah, really both ways though James Long's very good at
- 50:56Speaker 3: that as well.
- 50:57Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna be good. They're gonna be good in
- 50:59Speaker 1: that made free throws? Did you make free throws? Didn't
- 51:02Speaker 1: turn the ball over? I think we had what seven
- 51:04Speaker 1: turnovers and scored a ton with thirty over thirty or
- 51:07Speaker 1: thirty three points off of their turnovers. You forced over
- 51:10Speaker 1: twenty turnovers, So yeah, it was a it was a
- 51:12Speaker 1: good debut. I think that's a kind of a for
- 51:14Speaker 1: everyone in the program. Hey, I'm glad that's over kind
- 51:17Speaker 1: of a game because you just I mean everything, everything
- 51:22Speaker 1: is new onto that floor. Okay, how do we do?
- 51:25Speaker 1: How we okay? Where's warm ups? How do you do?
- 51:27Speaker 1: What tunnel do we go into? Okay? When then when
- 51:29Speaker 1: the mountaineers are like, okay, they're gonna roll this carpet
- 51:31Speaker 1: out there? Now, where do we go? Where's the rest
- 51:33Speaker 1: of the teams?
- 51:34Speaker 3: Like all that is all brand new.
- 51:36Speaker 1: First time stuff, you can just kind of forget about.
- 51:38Speaker 1: They just take it.
- 51:39Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things. I listened to you guys,
- 51:41Speaker 2: and again, congratulations to the new broadcast team. I thought
- 51:44Speaker 2: you guys did a great job. Enjoyed listening to you.
- 51:46Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 51:47Speaker 2: And also, I've got to you know, my my bandwidth
- 51:51Speaker 2: is not wide enough. I mean, I got it, Tony,
- 51:54Speaker 2: I got it. I was listening to you. I thought, now,
- 51:55Speaker 2: who is that?
- 51:56Speaker 1: Oh? Is that? Every who is that? I mean? I
- 51:58Speaker 1: know two three guys. Don't feel bad. I mean everyone
- 52:02Speaker 1: is new. Everyone is new except o Freneve and the crowd.
- 52:06Speaker 1: Crowd appreciated that he stayed around because he got a
- 52:09Speaker 1: big hit a three, hit a three. He got a
- 52:11Speaker 1: big roar from the crowd as being the last man standing.
- 52:15Speaker 1: And uh yeah.
- 52:16Speaker 2: So there were times, I mean, no offense to you,
- 52:18Speaker 2: because I think you do a tremendous job. But there
- 52:20Speaker 2: were times I thought, now, who has the ball?
- 52:22Speaker 1: No, I mean, yeah, I can't. I hear you. No,
- 52:24Speaker 1: I get that. I get that.
- 52:25Speaker 3: Jake Ower got in. Jake Ower got in, knocked home
- 52:28Speaker 3: a three.
- 52:29Speaker 1: So Jake Auer, who played at Brad's High School in Iowa,
- 52:32Speaker 1: got in for the Mountaineers. And just like Brad, the
- 52:36Speaker 1: ball stays in his hands about two seconds before he
- 52:39Speaker 1: shoots it.
- 52:39Speaker 3: Shot or shoot.
- 52:40Speaker 1: He was open and he banged one. And uh and
- 52:45Speaker 1: the and and and the alum. The alum took out
- 52:47Speaker 1: his his Valley High School pompom there. He's all fired up.
- 52:51Speaker 3: The Valley High graduate to make a three in the Colissegna.
- 52:54Speaker 1: It was a big moment.
- 52:55Speaker 3: I was happy for Jacob. Parents were in town.
- 52:57Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and there were there were there were folks
- 53:00Speaker 2: at Three Guys tailgate who were stopped there and then
- 53:03Speaker 2: went to the game. So, and I know you had
- 53:05Speaker 2: a crowd there, So I mean, people are excited to
- 53:07Speaker 2: see what this new team is going to be. It's
- 53:09Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna be a challenging season, but they were
- 53:11Speaker 2: excited about something new.
- 53:14Speaker 3: Yeah, it is this. We talked about football schedule being tough. Yeah,
- 53:17Speaker 3: his basketball schedules relentless. But good started. Tell you, I
- 53:20Speaker 3: think that's a really good way to say what you
- 53:21Speaker 3: just said. There. Took the practice for what you were
- 53:23Speaker 3: trying to accomplish and moved it right over to the
- 53:25Speaker 3: game floor. That's really hard to do, especially early with
- 53:28Speaker 3: all the new guys, so they have to be throwed
- 53:29Speaker 3: a lot to work on. As Darren said after things
- 53:31Speaker 3: to work on. Rebounding was one we thought they they'd
- 53:34Speaker 3: have to continue to get better on. He said they would.
- 53:36Speaker 3: That was something that showed up. But really good start.
- 53:38Speaker 2: Here's a good question for you guys. So when you
- 53:41Speaker 2: play that and I think one point you guys called
- 53:44Speaker 2: it out where there were substitutions, like four new players
- 53:46Speaker 2: came in. So you play with that level of defensive intensity,
- 53:50Speaker 2: A lot of guys are gonna have to play right.
- 53:51Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, it's hard to Uh, it's hard to stay
- 53:55Speaker 1: that bouncy for a long period of time. You got
- 53:58Speaker 1: a road takeer.
- 53:58Speaker 3: You're gonna have to mix some guys, and that's why
- 54:00Speaker 3: that's why the practices are as intense and fast pace
- 54:04Speaker 3: as they are, because you're getting a little conditioning with
- 54:05Speaker 3: that as well. So you're going to play your way
- 54:07Speaker 3: into game shape. That happens, well, it's really guys. It's
- 54:10Speaker 3: you're able to do it because the length of the
- 54:12Speaker 3: schedule and the number of games and the availabilities. But
- 54:14Speaker 3: it really is the nice thing about college basketball. You
- 54:17Speaker 3: don't just open up with a massive game right out
- 54:19Speaker 3: of the gate, right and you get a chance to
- 54:20Speaker 3: play your way into the shape and overcome some of that.
- 54:23Speaker 1: They'll go scrimmage wake Forest. Is it this weekend?
- 54:26Speaker 3: And you know allowed to say that you're not going
- 54:27Speaker 3: to be is that this weekend? NCA is probably online one, Yeah,
- 54:31Speaker 3: coming up later. I mean there's rules later in the week.
- 54:33Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're going to do that. They'll scrimmage wake Forest,
- 54:35Speaker 1: and they'll give another opportunity and then they'll dose that
- 54:38Speaker 1: situation that's just not like, hey, we're going to play
- 54:39Speaker 1: for forty minutes. They may play for forty minutes and
- 54:42Speaker 1: then they stop and they go, okay, let's do this
- 54:44Speaker 1: six seconds on the clock. We'll inbound at mid court
- 54:47Speaker 1: and we're down one. They'll do situational normally, they'll do
- 54:50Speaker 1: a lot of situations when you're exhausted, when you're those
- 54:52Speaker 1: situational stuff, so that all that kind of stuff helps.
- 54:54Speaker 3: One last thing of the people that stopped to say hi,
- 54:56Speaker 3: we met Gordy from Massachusetts and his family.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Oh that was awesome with that on.
- 55:00Speaker 3: But remember he's the one that's texted about he enjoyed
- 55:03Speaker 3: b Line stuff and he took it and he turned
- 55:05Speaker 3: on had a very successful coaching career himself using John
- 55:08Speaker 3: b Line stuff. It was awesome.
- 55:10Speaker 1: He came over. He has two little kiddies with him
- 55:12Speaker 1: and his wife, and he's good buddies with Adam Hughes,
- 55:15Speaker 1: former Mountain near long snapper who now lives just a
- 55:19Speaker 1: short distance away from Gordy. But that that was the
- 55:21Speaker 1: amazing text. We said, this is like an all time
- 55:23Speaker 1: or text. Yes, because he took he was watching bee Line.
- 55:26Speaker 1: He's going, wait a second, I gotta I'm gonna use
- 55:28Speaker 1: So it took all of b Line stuff.
- 55:30Speaker 3: But the guy from Messah.
- 55:32Speaker 1: And then came down here and now does leadership stuff.
- 55:36Speaker 1: Actually teaches a remote class at w VU. Of course
- 55:39Speaker 1: I'm up there in Massachusetts.
- 55:41Speaker 3: It was fun to meet him and his family.
- 55:43Speaker 1: Three guys brought to us by Tutor's Biscuit. Were you
- 55:46Speaker 1: think they were busy this weekend? Love that bridge? That
- 55:48Speaker 1: bridge day? Oh yeah, you know that that one Ville? Yeah, Fayeville,
- 55:53Speaker 1: right before the bridge. No matter where you are, Tutor's
- 55:55Speaker 1: Biscuits can be there with you. They've got over seventy
- 55:58Speaker 1: locations across the state and beyond. And I think this
- 56:01Speaker 1: is biscuit season. I think, No, seriously, I think as
- 56:05Speaker 1: the weather gets colder, you probably are more leaning. Would
- 56:10Speaker 1: you say, Brad toward a biscuit. I mean, I don't know.
- 56:12Speaker 3: I tick one down in July. Yeah, well, I see
- 56:15Speaker 3: where you're going with it. Food is what you're saying.
- 56:18Speaker 3: Gets colder, you needs some more comfort food.
- 56:20Speaker 1: Let me rephrase, maybe when the fall comes you eat
- 56:22Speaker 1: too instead of one. That's kind of what that's kind
- 56:24Speaker 1: of what I think. You gotta stay hard anyway. Garden
- 56:27Speaker 1: and Gun Magazine hosted last March it's annual biscuit challenge,
- 56:32Speaker 1: Who's got the best biscuit? Thirty two different biscuit makers
- 56:35Speaker 1: got in and you guessed it Tutor's Biscuit World won
- 56:39Speaker 1: the biscuit bracket where they won it. Yeah, world champion,
- 56:43Speaker 1: a world's championship, and they want it with their mountaineer.
- 56:46Speaker 1: Just in case you don't know. That's country hammegg cheese
- 56:48Speaker 1: and a crispy hash brown and that was ordained. But
- 56:51Speaker 1: there's so many different biscuits that they have. Next time
- 56:54Speaker 1: you get an opportunity or as they say, a hankering,
- 56:57Speaker 1: go to Tudor's Biscuit. Start your day the homemade way. Uh,
- 57:02Speaker 1: p up up up up, Good morning, gentlemen. First off,
- 57:06Speaker 1: I'd like to say thank you to your staff coming
- 57:08Speaker 1: in on Sundays, taking time away from your families. I'm
- 57:10Speaker 1: sure it's not fun recording a show following the loss,
- 57:12Speaker 1: especially one like last night. No, he'll for a clamber. Yeah,
- 57:17Speaker 1: suddenly I enjoy Secondly, suddenly. Secondly, I enjoyed listening to
- 57:21Speaker 1: Tony and Brad. Happy to see, excited what the men's
- 57:24Speaker 1: basketball team does this season. I think will be pleasantly surprised.
- 57:28Speaker 1: I'm grateful to be able to visit West Virginia the
- 57:30Speaker 1: last two weekends and watch games with my mom. At
- 57:32Speaker 1: the end of the night. My twenty year old reunion
- 57:34Speaker 1: was last week and I took my boys to Bridge
- 57:36Speaker 1: Day yesterday. I got food from Gino's and Tutors on
- 57:40Speaker 1: back to back weekends, something I've not been able to
- 57:42Speaker 1: do for many years. Lastly, I'm hoping the Mountaineers get
- 57:45Speaker 1: it back on track next weekend against Arizona. Thanks for
- 57:49Speaker 1: doing what you do keep us informed and entertained. Texter.
- 57:55Speaker 1: That was a disaster. However, I've had the pleasure of
- 58:01Speaker 1: meeting homeless Dave. I even had my picture made with
- 58:05Speaker 1: him there. He is man the fourth guy. Before the game.
- 58:11Speaker 1: The beer was great, conversation better. We talked about our
- 58:13Speaker 1: time at North Carolina Wesleyan College. We had very different experiences.
- 58:18Speaker 1: Dave was a basketball player, I was a reprobate. We
- 58:23Speaker 1: both found our way in life. Dave is the fourth
- 58:26Speaker 1: three guy and all around good guy. As for me,
- 58:28Speaker 1: I entered into the one profession where reprobates excel politics. Anyway,
- 58:35Speaker 1: I'm sorry I missed you guys, but I'm glad that
- 58:38Speaker 1: I met Dave. Signed by p One Scott in Stafford.
- 58:42Speaker 3: Thanks Scott, Glad he got to meet Dave.
- 58:44Speaker 1: Yeah, Dave is kind of the consistency. Yeah, he is
- 58:48Speaker 1: so that's where we are. So basketball goes quiet, they
- 58:55Speaker 1: go under the under the closed door to scrimmage. Football,
- 58:59Speaker 1: as we said, are a It's going to be a
- 59:01Speaker 1: seven o'clock kick on Saturday against Arizona Mountaineer's first trip
- 59:07Speaker 1: out there as Big twelve members. West Virginia last played
- 59:10Speaker 1: there in the Insight dot Com Bowl. On that field.
- 59:15Speaker 1: You don't remember that one hot they all run together
- 59:17Speaker 1: for ninety eight. Yeah, So what happened there is West
- 59:20Speaker 1: Virginia drives season. West Virginia drives the ball down the
- 59:23Speaker 1: field on the opening possession playing Missouri, Missouri, Missouri playing Missouri,
- 59:28Speaker 1: and West Virginia drives down the field and on its
- 59:32Speaker 1: opening possession sets up for a field goal three point
- 59:35Speaker 1: looking for a three start things off. I don't know
- 59:39Speaker 1: why I remember this, but I think a lot of
- 59:40Speaker 1: people remember it the same way. Kick gets blocked and
- 59:45Speaker 1: do they return it. I forget what happened, but like
- 59:47Speaker 1: from that point on it went downhill. It's like it
- 59:51Speaker 1: just it was just like look, long night.
- 59:55Speaker 3: And didn't Westernia make a run late, run late?
- 59:59Speaker 1: Yeah? For me, every bowl game is the Gator Bowl
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. Yeah, who's a quarterback Kobe. Let me see
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: what year with Smith?
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: Was it? Kobe Smith?
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: Year? Dan was a coach nine, Yeah, exactly right, ninety eight.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: Then his brother got into coaching as well. And anyway, anyway,
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: my point to all this is that that's the last
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: time that West Virginia played in that stadium, and uh,
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: they'll do it again. And obviously there's a little West
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: Virginia connection in Arizona, right rich Rod? Was there a
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: lot of form out in here. Staff members were there.
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: And uh, we'll see a day after Christmas.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: Great, can I give you a connection? This the kind
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: of person other I'm sorry, let me finish us in
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty one.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: You did make a run at him. I think that's
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: that game when you rendered me unconscious on the plane
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: on the way out.
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: There was scored halftime, so it was a pretty good comeback, right,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: h What was it like? Do you have a halftime score?
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: How's efforting? Yeah?
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: Hold on twenty four to three at the half, say
- 1:01:00Speaker 3: West Virginia scored twenty eight points. Yeah, somethody. They came,
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: they made a run, scored twenty eight points. In the
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: second half, outscored him twenty eight ten and the second
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: half lost thirty four to thirty one.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: Okay, some of my boys are going to their game
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: in their Arizona and West Virginia native Pulitzer Prize winner
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: Terry Wimmer.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, lives in Tucson. Lives there, still teachers there.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: He's retired, is he, But he'll be at the ballgame.
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: Pullitzer Prize winner Charleston Gazette.
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: No, when he was at he was at the Gazette.
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: Then he went to the Orange County Register.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: And that's where he won. It was an IVF story
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: or something or some.
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: Yeah, won a Pulitzer prize. Wow, he'll be at the game.
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: So West Virginia will be represented. Yeah, we'll have some
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: people there.
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: Well, Mark bowlser thirty four of fifty for four to
- 1:01:47Speaker 3: twenty nine and four whole received four men had one
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: hundred and eighty nine yards on eleven catches. Saunders was
- 1:01:54Speaker 3: on the Clarence Jones their quarterback. He'll be Smith m'spend later.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Clarence Jones. That sounds right, that's not right. That's that's
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: the quarterback.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: Kobe Jones. Kobe Joby Jon, Kobe Jo that's the probably right, Okay,
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: Kobe Jon goes by Kobe Jones. Yeah, what did he do?
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: What was he?
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: Numbers only eight of twelve? What do you run for?
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: Sixty four? H but three touchdowns? Three rushing touchdowns?
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: Yeah, Carlos Posey, we covered the block field goal, we
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: turned at seventy.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Yards, got a touchdown off of it. Yeah, jeez, yeah,
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: I remember that. How do you remember that? I don't
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: know why. I don't even know what yesterday was. But anyway,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: that'll do it for us. What will the line be
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: on the Arizona game.
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: That's a good question. It's not out yet. We released
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: mid afternoon today. What do you think I don't I
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: should have looked that up. I didn't look at power rankings.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Arizona four and a half.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: Now, I don't think it'll be that much. They've lost
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: three in a row. They're really struggling to Arizona. Two
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: in Arizona, it might be in that three range.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: Again, that's a number.
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: That's where everything's been.
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll figure it all out. Thanks for
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: being with us, Thanks to our producer, Ethan. Producer Ethan
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: came in had the whole thing going. We're back again
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: on Thursday to preview the game. Three guys brought to
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- 1:03:28Speaker 1: and by Conley CPA Group. Oh shoot, I forgot some
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: What what do you got? Oh? Wait, time out, bring
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: it back to us. What do we got?
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: H geez?
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: What's all right?
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: I moved it on three off, I moved it on
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: you all right?
- 1:03:45Speaker 1: Would you like to make it sorry? Would you like
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: to make a statement on this? What do you got? Well?
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: You know doctor Lisa Costello, sure do, okay, one of
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: the best. She and her husband and young child were
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: at Three Guys tailgate, and as soon as I saw her,
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: she said, come here, I got something for you. Had
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: a shopping bag and had these three candies with a
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: very specific explanation. Now this is for Brad, this is
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: for Tony's and said, you know, make sure that they
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: get these candies because sometimes you get candy and it
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: doesn't get spread around.
- 1:04:15Speaker 1: So she made sure.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Brad by bringing big bags. Yeah, supersized. So thanks to
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: Lisa and her family. And I did bring these in.
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: I want I want that noted.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Lisa.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: That's awesome, Hey, Ethan, But since we butcher this whole thing,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: I think it was a picture of Lisa. Hey, just yeah,
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: there is fire through some of those pictures. There we go, Okay,
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: there's yeah, yeah, yeah, there she is. There's the family. Yeah,
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: she's terrific. She's terrific.
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: And they were headed down to the homecoming parade, but
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: they stopped by first to uh drop off metal.
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: You'll probably call it santas or something, but it's a metal.
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: Yeah. In these these are tremendous. Hey, look, okay, hop
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: there's a gentleman. There's from Beckley right center.
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: He's from Backlay. He was awesome. Excuse me, I'm eating Yeah,
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: And I had a chance to meet with him. That
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: was Rick. Yeah, Rick, daughter Madison who's getting her master's here. Emma, yeah,
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: terror the wife wasn't there there not? But did you
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: facetimer faced FACETI here's the thing with Rick, go back
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: to Rick here for just a second. Great dude. When
- 1:05:22Speaker 3: we facetimed and called Tara, that was the one where
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: we completely butchered it. Her name is Tara. There was
- 1:05:28Speaker 3: a Tara Tara debate on the program corre of that. Yeah,
- 1:05:32Speaker 3: so I may ture I apologize on behalf of all
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: three of us.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: Okay, cool, there's just yeah, just kind of there's a
- 1:05:38Speaker 1: that's so, that's Hudson's dad. He was performing a Charles
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: Wesley Godwin song. He was He was really good.
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: His his playlist is expansive and so I got a
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: thing going with him now because I come in and
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: he says, what do you want to hear? And I
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: try to have something completely off the wall, you get
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: you And he like, I came.
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: In this week, they want to want to hear? What
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: do you want to hear? And we went back forth.
- 1:05:59Speaker 1: I said, how about something from Pink Floyd took care
- 1:06:01Speaker 1: of it. Took care of it. Hm. He's terrific, Hey, Ethan.
- 1:06:06Speaker 4: They had a great crew there Friday, didn't they You know,
- 1:06:10Speaker 4: what is it now? It's just like we're over at
- 1:06:13Speaker 4: their house, right, yeah, just hanging out.
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: Got a fire? You got any fire going? Hey? Ethan
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: just for the world. If you got any more pictures,
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: just roll through them. There. I forgot to do that
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: part of it too. Have you got any montage pictures
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: that we haven't used or you've got you used them all.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: It was something from Friday night. Okay, people at the
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: basketball game. That's kind of neat and rev keV barbecue. Okay,
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: just keep bouncing. They had turkey turkey there, chicken sand
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: turkey sandwich. I got the wings. He smoked wings for
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: the first time this week. They were pretty good. Okay,
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: so those are the same pictures. Okay, anything else we
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: didn't use, We're good. Over Parkersburg Brewing Company. More and
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: more Connection three or four is being made being distributed.
- 1:06:52Speaker 1: Chances are increasing that it'll be uh to where you buy,
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: whether that be a Gomart or other places across the state.
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: It's it's hitting shelves with more frequency. People continue to enjoy.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: All right. There was a brewer there from Berkeley Springs. Yeah, infiltrating. Yeah,
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: that made that too, very good. Nice to have them
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: with us. Good to see you. All right, we're out,
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: three guys, see you. This is the end. Is the
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: end in more ways than one. We're done,