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#220 Producer Vic On the Mic · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mother
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  Speaker 1: slash producer. I am Mattie Jay.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm big, and we're all here.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 1: This is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
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  Speaker 1: it is the bad. And Vic, as you know this,
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  Speaker 1: We don't give advice.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know, sometimes accidentally.
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  Speaker 1: Excellently you, of course, Vics as the guest on this episode,
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  Speaker 1: you are void of any legal ramification, so you can
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  Speaker 1: give advice with no impact whatsoever. Well, you are tied
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  Speaker 1: to two doting dads, so tread carefully. Is that a threat?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's I care about. I would hate for VIC
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  Speaker 1: to get sued and people, no, not me, which one
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  Speaker 1: not mean? People say, yeah, I mean, but obviously we
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to feel in any way like you're
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  Speaker 1: walking on eggshells. In this episode, she.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't even flinch.
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  Speaker 1: She did a little bit so fixed, like why the
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  Speaker 1: fun did I say? We're just trying to scare her
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  Speaker 1: the whole episode. She even said to me, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: is this a stitch up?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think it is. If it is,
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  Speaker 2: then it's on me too.
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't know if the poor listeners just gonna
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  Speaker 1: hear us for a whole VI Is. It's great to
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  Speaker 1: have you here. Obviously, you've been on the mic delivering
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  Speaker 1: the hard facts, the breaking news to the good listeners
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  Speaker 1: of two doting dads for a couple of weeks now,
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  Speaker 1: and people people are inquisitive, the do the do the
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  Speaker 1: dough is are inquisitive. They want to know where did
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  Speaker 1: you come from? She just spawned in that scene over there.
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  Speaker 1: We come in and we found her on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Were yeah, she was trying to get home, and We're like,
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  Speaker 1: sit down and produce us and watch me in ash.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, oh god, but you have been with us
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  Speaker 1: four December January. Remember time flies, Time flies, time flies
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  Speaker 1: when you having fun? And Vic, we came into contact
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  Speaker 1: many years ago.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, people know this story.
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  Speaker 1: But I actually I joked with that. She was like,
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  Speaker 1: we probably should have looked at your TV. What but
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  Speaker 1: very robust, hiring, lots of stages of interviews. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: very very thorough. But let's go back to a young Vic.
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  Speaker 1: Did you study.
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  Speaker 3: Did you go to school?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that I feel like, now that you've started,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about it. Respect Now, okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: start from the beginning you were born.
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  Speaker 1: I think we are you who birthed you?
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  Speaker 3: Julian Warren Okay, yep, yeah I did get any.
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  Speaker 5: I went to Charlest University in Bathurst, so I lived
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  Speaker 5: on campus.
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  Speaker 3: It was my first time at a home.
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  Speaker 4: What was that?
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  Speaker 5: So much fun? It was like a permanent sleepover.
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  Speaker 1: Bathist is one of the few campuses where you like
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  Speaker 1: stay on site, right, it's lit.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, people from Sydney used to come to Bathist to
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  Speaker 5: go to the Uni bar nights because they were so popular.
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  Speaker 1: Ash puting his hand.
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  Speaker 3: I never did, yeah, missing out, I did.
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  Speaker 2: I had a I've had a crack at night in baths.
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  Speaker 1: What would you pay a week for your accommodation.
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  Speaker 5: There, I've got no idea actually, But we lived in
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  Speaker 5: this place called Towers, which was like if you looked
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  Speaker 5: at it now, it looks like a prison. So like
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  Speaker 5: it's like these two big towers and it's just like
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  Speaker 5: brick and these tiny little windows that stick out, and
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  Speaker 5: it was like a bed, a wardrobe and a.
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  Speaker 1: Desk soundly and then how many people to a room?
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  Speaker 5: One you got your own room, proper cells, yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 5: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have like yard time? Well in the prison
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  Speaker 2: we don't know. You can tell anything, to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not going to fact check it.
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  Speaker 5: The yard in between was used for like pre drinking
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  Speaker 5: before the bar nights, or like pub runs. I was
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  Speaker 5: known to get too drunk at one of those that
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  Speaker 5: I didn't even make it to the Uni bar.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll be there when you went into the towers
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  Speaker 1: and you open up this first time out of home,
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  Speaker 1: opened the door, you look at where you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be living for the next what three four years? What
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  Speaker 1: was your first impression?
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  Speaker 5: Like, my sister went there, so I'd seen it before,
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  Speaker 5: and I knew how much fun she had, so I
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  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, this is going to be good. And
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  Speaker 5: I loved how everyone was like in with each other.
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  Speaker 5: So like it's just like permanent, like slumber party alcohol.
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  Speaker 1: What about if your like the social battery runs dry?
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  Speaker 1: You shut your door, Yeah you do.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you shut your door and don't answer it and
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  Speaker 5: just snuggle up.
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  Speaker 3: And I used to have I had a full setup.
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  Speaker 3: I had a full.
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  Speaker 5: Setup in my room, so I had a TV and
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  Speaker 5: back then we had like a DVD.
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  Speaker 2: Plan vintage for those of you who don't know what,
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  Speaker 2: it's a player that.
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  Speaker 1: Plays discs CDs with movies DVDs, DVDs, yeah, blu rays.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody listens is like over the age of don't.
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  Speaker 5: But Bathists are renowned for its communications course, which is
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  Speaker 5: why I went because I wanted to be a journalist,
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  Speaker 5: and so a lot of the teachers there are ex
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  Speaker 5: journos and they have a really good work experience program
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  Speaker 5: so that you can start doing industry experience while you're there.
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  Speaker 5: So I got a job straight out of UNI, like
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  Speaker 5: before it even finished that year, and a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people were like that. So they try and get you
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  Speaker 5: into the workforce before all the other unis graduate, so
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  Speaker 5: that you're first in line.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the Hello Sport boys went. They went to
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  Speaker 1: that universe tomin edding Oh you do?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: No, I looked them up. They didn't look familiar.
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  Speaker 1: Did you look at that? That was not an attack
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  Speaker 1: at Hello spot.
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  Speaker 3: Podcasts after you guys mentioned them, Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, And so four years, three, three years, two
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  Speaker 5: and a half really because I finished early?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're that good? You finished early? Yes, I was disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: And so where was your first job?
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  Speaker 5: It was at two SM, which was the super radio network,
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  Speaker 5: and so that was based in Piedmont oh wow, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: but it spread out to all the regional stations around Australia,
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  Speaker 5: so you actually were going to like fifty two stations
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  Speaker 5: from the one station.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, how did you get the job? I just applied,
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  Speaker 1: like what, just called up and said that good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like do you re me?
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  Speaker 2: Like I finished this degree like a year and a
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  Speaker 2: half early.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it was just right place, right time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Me and my best friend from UNI both applied and
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  Speaker 5: we both got a job there at the same time.
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  Speaker 5: And it was just the best fun ever. And everyone
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  Speaker 5: who worked there was the same age. So we got
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  Speaker 5: drinking and like having a good time and.
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  Speaker 2: That like those rural stations where you get broadcasted out to,
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  Speaker 2: that's where like you cut your teeth, right, is that
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  Speaker 2: is that I didn't grow up in the or do
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  Speaker 2: any study whatsoever in that space at all.
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  Speaker 1: So I went to tape.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I went to I went to take to Matthew
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  Speaker 2: and say it loud and proud. You didn't go for
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  Speaker 2: many multiple reasons and many different It's not about me,
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  Speaker 2: this is about so where from then?
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  Speaker 3: And then?
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  Speaker 1: What were you doing at the radio station journalists?
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  Speaker 3: I was reading the news. You read the news radio news.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why people are like, she sounds familiar because
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  Speaker 1: of they all sound the.
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  Speaker 3: Same, the super network, How dare you.
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  Speaker 4: All of them?
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  Speaker 2: It is okay, tell us who teaches you the voice?
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  Speaker 5: I did a course with a guy I think his
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  Speaker 5: name was Max Rowley.
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  Speaker 3: May do you know Max Raley?
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  Speaker 4: I knew that was going.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry about you started just now.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's funny.
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  Speaker 5: This is my job, but with a guy named Max,
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  Speaker 5: and he ran this special course. And actually Candace Warner
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  Speaker 5: previously Candas fells On, she was there at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, this guy must be good.
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  Speaker 5: So he's really good at teaching you about intonation and
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  Speaker 5: all this sort of stuff. But it really just came
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  Speaker 5: from experience. And so when I was at two SM,
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  Speaker 5: like they used to give you notes and recordings and
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  Speaker 5: stuff to get better, but it's like anything like photography,
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  Speaker 5: like any school, you want to learn. The more you
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  Speaker 5: do it, the better you get. And then I got
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  Speaker 5: to a stage where I was like, Okay, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 5: good at this now. So then I applied to go
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  Speaker 5: to t GB, which was the number one station in Sydney,
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  Speaker 5: and so that yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that for me was like the Piticoloss I got
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  Speaker 3: to get to t GB.
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  Speaker 1: Was there a job?
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  Speaker 3: You didn't get the job I did?
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  Speaker 1: He did not, straight up.
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  Speaker 3: Though, No, no no.
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  Speaker 5: I was there for a couple of years at two SM.
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  Speaker 5: Then I went to t.
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  Speaker 1: GB and was there a particular show in two GB?
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  Speaker 1: Because who was? Who was big back? And ben Fordham's
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  Speaker 1: on there now?
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  Speaker 3: Alan Joe whoa ship? Ray Hadley?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And then t GB.
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  Speaker 5: I was working there for a while and doing all
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  Speaker 5: sorts of shifts, and as I was getting old, I
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  Speaker 5: was like, I kind of want to see the world.
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  Speaker 5: And Emily, who had got that first job with me
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  Speaker 5: at two SM, she also got a job at two GB.
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  Speaker 1: Emily fucking find her own path to come through the door.
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  Speaker 5: So I think actually it was probably me following her,
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  Speaker 5: to be honest, because she was massive inspoke for me.
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  Speaker 3: But then she was like, I'm going to go to London.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, all right, I'll go to London too.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 3: So we both went to London and lived there for
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  Speaker 3: a while.
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  Speaker 2: And how long did you live in London?
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  Speaker 3: For two years?
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  Speaker 1: Did you see? He was there before?
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  Speaker 5: Ye?
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  Speaker 3: Telling that story?
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  Speaker 1: I think where were you? There? Were you?
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  Speaker 3: I was nine to eleven and where do you live?
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  Speaker 1: All over?
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  Speaker 3: Actually?
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  Speaker 5: But I end most of my time was in Dulston
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  Speaker 5: before it was cool?
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  Speaker 1: Is that where like all the Australians go clap him
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  Speaker 1: half of the yeah downstairs, I wouldn't have you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: know these names. Ash, just someone who's not left in
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  Speaker 1: all the beaches before.
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  Speaker 3: Was like very cool. Okay, London Fields.
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  Speaker 1: London Fields, I love a drink there, London Fields. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to? I'll take this from when and
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  Speaker 1: then sorry you go just.
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  Speaker 2: Quickly on the news reader. Is there a tip that
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  Speaker 2: you can give us to just a quick tip that
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  Speaker 2: we could quickly try?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Because sometimes people when they do accents, they have like
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  Speaker 1: a word to get them into the like the mindset.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a is there a word that you like?
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  Speaker 1: How do you trigger? Because you just you know, you
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  Speaker 1: sit there and you pull you pull the trigger on
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  Speaker 1: breaking news and there she is.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even say get ready, you just into it.
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  Speaker 1: You're already going.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's from reading so many news bulletins.
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  Speaker 1: Over the years, just kind of slipping in now a
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  Speaker 1: little bit.
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  Speaker 4: I know she did right then? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well I don't actually like my normal voice sounds
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  Speaker 5: a bit.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds great, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, honestly, I feel like there is just a
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  Speaker 2: certain tone that a newsreader has.
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  Speaker 3: You lower your timber. But I I've got a tip
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 5: So it's all about breathing from your diaphragm.
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  Speaker 1: It's like in the lower.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, right, So instead of breathing from your lungs, you
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  Speaker 5: need to breathe from like tummy. So you go and
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  Speaker 5: you want your tummy to come out. This is kind
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  Speaker 5: of what you do in yoga. And then I used
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  Speaker 5: to take the longest breath I possibly could and then
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  Speaker 5: go into it. So then it helps you to breathe
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  Speaker 5: really long and smooth.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, give me some news.
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  Speaker 1: In today's news. Ash Wicks looks more handsome than ever
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  Speaker 1: wearing those spectacles in today's news. No, that's all right.
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  Speaker 3: You breathe from the lungs. I could hear it. Breathe
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  Speaker 3: from your tummy.
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  Speaker 2: I can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm guessing not to shoot yourself in the foot here,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm guessing working and ready for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Mistakes happened. Was there ever a mistake that was made.
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  Speaker 5: When I was at two sm there was quite a
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  Speaker 5: big mistake that I made reading the news and it
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  Speaker 5: ended up making the news.
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  Speaker 2: And when news makes as the news, Fuck.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't cool, but it's fine now obviously. But
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  Speaker 5: a friend of mine who was leaving, it was her
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  Speaker 5: last day, she tampered with my bulletin while I was
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  Speaker 5: in the booth so I couldn't see.
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  Speaker 1: And there's going to be a rule, right, you never
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  Speaker 1: tampered with another journalist bulletin was spoken rule.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's probably a written down rule as well.
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  Speaker 3: But last day, so what are they going to do? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: And it was a crime story about an attack that
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  Speaker 5: had happened on a woman and on the police press
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  Speaker 5: release it said he grabbed her buttocks and crutch in
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  Speaker 5: the attack, and this was changed to in the script
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  Speaker 5: and he grabbed her.
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  Speaker 3: Ass and crutched like a bowling ball.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, And I read that and then straight away I
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  Speaker 5: was like, I just read the wrong thing and that
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  Speaker 5: is a really bad thing to say.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a crime story.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just going to keep reading and like literally it's
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  Speaker 5: like maybe one beat and the I'm like police metior
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  Speaker 5: is asking for.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just rolled on through and did you think like
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  Speaker 1: obviously live on air, but were like what did I
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  Speaker 1: just read?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: At first I was like, oh that was bad. Guys
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  Speaker 5: like don't do that. But then it somehow spread from
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  Speaker 5: newsroom to newsroom, people like listen to this, listen to this.
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  Speaker 5: Then it made it to like news dot com or
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  Speaker 5: Daily Telegraph and then they wrote something about it. And
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  Speaker 5: my dad used to work there, so he called his
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  Speaker 5: contact was like, can you like sink this story?
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  Speaker 3: This is my daughter and so.
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  Speaker 1: Sink this story as in like bury it. Oh what
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  Speaker 1: else can we bury?
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  Speaker 5: And so yeah, I thought that was the end of
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  Speaker 5: my career at that point because that was my first job.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I've gone on to have a very long
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  Speaker 3: and career.
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  Speaker 1: And then when did you start? Because people in the
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group were like, did she's work on reality TV?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: They want to know the goths. How did that transition happen?
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  Speaker 1: From radio to TV?
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  Speaker 5: So when I got back from London, I had a
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  Speaker 5: wedding and it was actually Ben Fordham's wedding and so
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  Speaker 5: there was lots of media people there and I just
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  Speaker 5: started talking to people their networking as you do. And
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  Speaker 5: there was a job going at Akka, a current affair
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  Speaker 5: and they needed a producer. So I was like yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'll start as a producer, and then I just loved
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  Speaker 5: producing so much and I think I prefer to be
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  Speaker 5: on the other side of the camera like this for
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  Speaker 5: me is not.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry to right lives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, tell us about that.
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  Speaker 5: I can see why it's daunting. But yeah, I started
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  Speaker 5: at Akka. I did that for a couple of years,
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  Speaker 5: and then I went to the Today Show, which was
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  Speaker 5: really fun but like very stressful and high energy.
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  Speaker 3: And the hours obviously, what was the wake up time?
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  Speaker 3: I was starting at one thirty in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you might as well just stay up.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't stand for it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then but you finish at nine thirty, so
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  Speaker 5: then you got the whole day. So I used to
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  Speaker 5: hang out with the Today Show crew, so that was
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  Speaker 5: really fun. But it's definitely a job I think for
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  Speaker 5: a young single person. Once you have a family, it's
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  Speaker 5: less so. And then from there someone had said, why
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: don't you try reality TV? Maths is about to blow up?
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  Speaker 5: Do you want to wanto maps with us? And I
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: was like sure, Like I'll try something new. A side note,
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  Speaker 5: I've also got ADHD, So creating a new career every
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  Speaker 5: few years is like a byproduct.
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  Speaker 1: In the Cycle of Life, yeah, a million.
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  Speaker 3: The hyper focus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah. You always want to try something new and then
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  Speaker 5: you focus on it, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then you get bored.
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  Speaker 3: So I did Maths for a while.
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: That was a very full on show, and then from
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: there I moved on to Batch and that's how I
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: actually met Maddie Back in the day.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: With Matt Agnew yes, oh yes, we met him at
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the TikTok Awards.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Search for Love and they brought back the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: success stories myself and Laura and Sam Wood and I
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: was doing my voxes with Vic at the time. Avoxy
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: Quick interview to camera.
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: And so I I'm on the side of the camera
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: asking the questions and he's looking at me. So that's
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: who they're looking at when they're looking for Do you remember.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: The questions you asked?
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: It hot like he's gonna be the bad cop? Remember that?
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I remember. She was like tell me tell me right now. Yeah,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and I was like she's very good.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: She's like tell me, tell me tell me.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And I was like I'll hire one day. Full circle moment,
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: yeah wow. So how long were you at the Batch?
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: For a long time, I was doing like Batch Bachelorette
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Bachelor in Paradise, I was doing the whole friend.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Did you get to do the trip to the island?
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Where was it filmed in?
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Was? Can? I we can take this off the record
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: if we have to. I heard a rumor that Batch
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: in Paradise they all just were like rabbits on that series,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But none of it made it to weir because Chaneltan
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was a family friendly network.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Say the cast or the stuff?
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Oh wow, Victoria, come on now, it wasn't me.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Would say? Was the cast? Were they quite a get
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: out of it? I heard that they were like just
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: like in all because they had an area where obviously
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: like film, where like the Kabanas were. Rumor that I
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: heard was that they were just like every nook and cranny,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: but everyone didn't care because they were like none of them.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: There's no like uncut or Batching Paradise.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Oh true, I suppose, Like no, there's not like an
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: area where you film and then an area where you don't. Like,
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: there's cameras in every single room, so like we would
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: know if people were having sex, but they also had
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: to tell us so that we could say that you
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: consent before.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: They have sex as well, so you would have to
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: go into their kabana and do what not me, but
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: with a checklist, you consent. Yes, really you have to.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Get them to say on camera, looking at the camera,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: this is my name, and I consent to kill the mood.
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: It does, but it has to happen.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Now, how do.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: You come back from that? If I was if I
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is off me.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Actually, do you know what? I'm like, We'll try again tomorrow.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you give consent early on?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: When you enter the island?
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: You're like, if someone prophised, The answer is yes, I'm
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: not gonna say.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: No, man, woman, man, whatever.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I'm here.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yellow.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: That was yellow here too. I think it was more
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: for the women.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: That makes more men. But still I'm here, guys, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: we were like, imagine as single about your paradise.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Wow, I'm a sweet I'm a sweet boy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah according to me.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: But I found out I was pregnant with Louis when
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: I got over there.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: It must have been a good trip. So can I
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ask Dan your beautiful husband? Sorry? I apologize. When did
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you guys meet?
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: We met six seven years ago. We just had our
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: seven year anniversary.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Actually congratulation relationship.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: You and we met in real life which people find
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: very fascinating because it was right in the thick of
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: dating apps era he knows this story. But I was
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: dating a few guys at the time. I just had
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: my heartbroken by someone else. And then I was like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna date like a man and just take
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: the feelings out of it and have some fun.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: And Dan was the man.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And then while I.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Was dating, I had a few people on my rosters. No, no, no,
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: just a dating roster.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Well, don't slut shove her.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: I well, I was working long hours, so I had
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to like really utilize my time. I knew I definitely
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: wanted to be a mom, so I was like, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: need to Yeah, yeah, I need to find a guy.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: But would you, like, how would you figure out? You're like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: obviously like a Friday nights it's a certain hierarchy the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: days of the week, right, like a Tuesday night' like whatever,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: But like Friday and Saturday night that was important.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: You don't have kids with the Friday and Saturday night.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Oh well I met him on a Saturday night.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Well, there she do, That's what I meant. You shut
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the fuck up.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Was it a Saturday or Saturday night date?
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So we met at the pub. We met at a pub.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: I'd been at a long lunch, he'd been at the rugby.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: We were both well intoxicated, and then I never thought
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: i'd see him again at the bar.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you're at a bar? Like, but
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: did you bump into each other? How did the actual
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Because that's why I think people were like, Younger people
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: are like, well, how did the first word?
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: So my friend was with me and his friend tried
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: to pick up my friend, and so then I was like,
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: who am I going to talk to?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's there. He looks great, perfect.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: That's very romantic, all right.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: But then as I got to know him, I was like,
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: this guy is very caring and he's very easy to
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: be around. He definitely wants to look after me. And
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: the other guys who I had been dating, they fell
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: off the roster real fast, and he was the last
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: man standing.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It was like like the spread of like reality TV. Anyway,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: So he got my rose. Would you have to like
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the little flaming things the roster like, sorry about that?
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Put out their flame?
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Well? Actually, so I was at a bachelor I was
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: unsure about where the relationship was going early on because
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: I had been sort of tossed around a bit here
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: and then I k okay Victoria, not physically, and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: was like, look, I don't know if I've got time
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: for this. I've got to go to finale and then
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: and then I'm jumping onto the Bachelorette as the bachelott producer.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: It was a really big responsibility, and I just like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't know how much time I had for him,
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: and he's like.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: It's okay, Like whatever you can give me, Like it
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: was very sweet. And then at the finale, we were
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: in South Africa.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell him where we were or what we're doing,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: and I got this message and it was said, I
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: don't know where you are, I don't know what you're doing,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: but I know that whatever it is, you're kicking butt.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so nice.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: And I was like that was my what the fuck
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: are you doing? Vick moment?
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Like this guy's a good guy and he's gonna take
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: care of you and he wants to be with you,
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: and like, I've not had someone like that. I keep
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: going for the guys who were like playing hard.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: To get the game players.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: It's like he showed that he was thinking about you,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: that you're having to prompt him, which men are so
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: bad at most of the time.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: And also without him getting anything, like he didn't need
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: to send me that.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Man, he didn't.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: He could have been like, oh wait, she gets back
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: and I talked about Yeah, the fact he was thinking
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: about you and then acted. It's very different so than
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: just obviously thinking about.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: An acting Yeah.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: So then on the drive home from the airport, I
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: messaged him and then I went straight to his place
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: instead of going home because I was like, I just want.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: To see him, all right, Okay, so the message.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So the message worked and I got tossed around a bit.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: We also had you on talking married, Do you want
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: to mention that at all?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Talking about it well before Laura fucking had her own
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: show about recapping married at First Sight? I yes, on
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: a show.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: You're a pioneer, an original people forget Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: You were the OG. How was I very We got
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: you back again?
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we got you back a couple of times because
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: you were good in your TV and you were easy
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: and you were easy.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Very experienced, professional, professional, professionally.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: If you will, you know, you probably could have got
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: a run on this year's show. It was a bit
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: more of a permanent host and dads or on the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: on the.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Current what's it called beyond the dinner party?
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: What is this? I crawled so Laura could run.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I agree, thank you, but I like what you said.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: But then after that I became a mum.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: So then my whole career trajectory changed because I didn't
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: want to do long hours anymore and I didn't want
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: to be really stressed and bring work home. So then
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: I started photography.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: So then when louis your eldest, when he was born,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: you were no longer longer working in TV. You were
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: just doing photography.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: I'd started photography after I had him, but it wasn't
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: the plan wasn't to work as a photographer, and I
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: was still trying to find shift work, so I was
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: working at today Extra. I was trying to find like
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: TV jobs that I could pick up casting work, which
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: I did a bit of from home. Then obviously COVID happened,
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: so that sort of changed everything as well. So I
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: started just looking for TV jobs that I could do
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: from home or were a bit more flexible. But it
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: became harder and harder. And we're six years on from
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: that now, and TV's changing so much now that the
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: jobs are drying up more and more, so I kind
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: of felt this urge to start forging my own path.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And when I was pregnant with.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Lily, I got offered a three day a week job
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: at the Cooker with Adam Leao at SBS oh sick.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: So that was a fun little interim from reality TV
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: and that was probably my first little like, you don't
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: have to do reality TV forever.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: There's other things out there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Did you av at any time imagine that you'll be
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: working one of the best parenting podcasts in the country.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: This is literally dream job.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Though for me, this one you got now? Yeah, I
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: thought so.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Not to like to your.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Horn, go on the ash for your hon away.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: But right before I did this, I got offered from
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: my acaboss to work at nine dot com dot au
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: as their parenting editor oh after I had Lily. Yeah,
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: and because I could work from home to do it,
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: And so I used to calm Metty up and be like, hey,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: can I get some quotes on this story, like because
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: they've done something funny with parenting or whatnot, And those
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: stories always did really well. So we had this rapport already.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: So when Mattie called me and was like, hey, like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: what are you up to. We've got something we might
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: want to do with you. I was like, oh, sure,
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: And I loved the parenting space so much when I
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: was writing about it. I've got a lot to say
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: about it, and I'm so passionate about being a mum.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: I feel like becoming a mum was really the making
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: of me changed me as a person. I'm really passionate
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: about mums and parents and helping other people. So I
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: love what you guys are doing because you're starting conversations
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: that both men and women can listen to and learn from.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: And we need the community. The community is disappearing and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: this is a way of bringing it back a little bit,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: especially with.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: The dotus digital Village.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: And it's beautiful, like the messages we get.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: And also we should say as well, this is in
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: no way me trying to be polite, but you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: we are so thankful that you've come on board. You're
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: doing such an amazing job and you've sloted in as
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: one of the family like you've been here forever. It's been.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: It's been the dream. So thank you so much for
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: putting in so much time and energy, into this podcast,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: so so thankful for it.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: It's nice to have someone on the team that's in
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a similar position to us too, having young kids and
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: having the same battles every day. And then you're also
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: so proactive with being in and around the community, not
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: just our community, but what other parents are doing outside
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: of that to bring it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: In what's affecting other parents.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it makes a big difference, because, Yeah, it's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: nice to because you understand what we're you know, what
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: we're talking about day in day out.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Can I ask as a mother when you look at
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: all aspects of your your parenting You've got Louis and Lily,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: is there any side of your parenting that you're most
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: proud of?
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I think for me, and this is like definitely part
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: of my love language, like quality time, and I feel
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: like it's so important for me to like really carve
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: out time for my kids and probably to the detriment
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: of my own sanity, because I'm so big on like
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: I need to make time for you because I want
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: you to feel wanted and appreciated and loved. And I
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: also get so much like love and joy and energy
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: for my kids when that happens. So like I've now
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: got a Lily Mummy day this year because I've got
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: Thursdays off with Lily now that louis at school, and
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: those days are the days I look forward to every week.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: It's the one day of the week I do not
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: do one shred of work. And but even Dan says, like, Babe,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: like why don't you put her into daycare so that
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: you can get all your work done and then you're
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: not gonna have to work at night as much and
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: like be as stressed.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Like, but I'd never give up that day.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: We both had that day.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: We both last year, we both had that day where
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Matt had Daddy Daughter Day which was Thursday as well,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and I had Macey on Thursday. So were we do swimming?
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah I would.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't give that up. But yeah, it was so
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: great having that day with Macey. It was during the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: time she napped as well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, Lily napping again. I'm so tired from like
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: we're doing.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: But my sister gave me really good advice which I'll
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: pass on as well. She's like, you can always make
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: more money, you can't ever make more time, and you
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: never get this time back, and you know it goes
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: so fast.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I know. It's like I said before we'd started recording
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that moment, we're down the beach. We had that little
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: window where the kids weren't complaining about the sand being itchy,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they weren't cold for me in the water just yet.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: We had that little five minute window where everyone was happy.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And as we had that window, this person walked past
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: was a bit older and they just looked at us
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and smiled and looked at the kids and they go,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I really miss that age. And you're like, I really
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: got to try and enjoy this as much as I can.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then five minutes later the kids were screaming and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Marley was like, I've been attacked by lies, and I'm like,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: there's no lie in the water, it's just you just
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: been itchy with the salt water.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: And those moments are so like we'll call it the
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: perfect moment, are so few and far between that you're like,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: when you have it, sometimes you need that room to
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: be reminded that you're right. The timing was perfect and
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: it was meant to happen at that point, just like
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the day. In the weekend, you
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: probably had little arguments here and there, as part of
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: their development and all sorts of shit like that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Three minutes later, I had both kids screaming as if
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: they were being abducted on the beach under each arms.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Can I ask, where do you reckon like that approach
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to parenting. Is that something that's developed over time? Have
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you always had that mindset or is it just since
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know you've juggled working and the kids growing up?
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Where does it come from?
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Good question.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I definitely knew I always wanted to be a mum,
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: and there was a point where I didn't think I
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: was going to be because I didn't meet Dan until
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: I was thirty four, and so we had Louis pretty
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: quick because nine months later I found out I was
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: pregnant and then nine months after that I had a baby.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: So we had a baby within a year and a
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: half a meeting.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And so before you met Dan, I guess you would
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: open to the fact that, hey, it may not happen,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and that's something that I have to consider.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Actually, I was like, I really want to be a mum,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: and I'm going to make sure i'm a mum, whether
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: it's I do it by myself or Yeah, I was
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: gonna have a baby by myself if I had to,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: because all my friends were having babies and were with
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the people they were supposed to be with like much earlier. Ironically,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I ended up having children much earlier than some of
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: my other friends who were with like partners for longer.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: So in hindsight, I probably didn't need to worry so much.
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: But you don't know what you don't know, right, And
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: so then when I did have children, I was really like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to take it for granted, and I
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: wanted to like really embrace every moment. I mean, they
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: drive you nuts half the time, but my god, they
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: fill your heart up with so much joy and they're
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: so beautiful, like little moments like even I was telling
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: Ash on the drive over.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: You, yeah, if I was in the Northern Beaches, I'd
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: be in the car with you.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Nodn't just don't entertain that idea.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: But like, guys, come get me from bon Die.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: We had a big blot this morning, and as we've
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: learned from Gen, the big thing is the repair. So
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: then before we left for the day, I just got
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: down on my knees and I said, I gave him
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: because I'm really sorry like, mum, he doesn't mean to shout,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: but sometimes when you listen to eat, but you don't
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: need to hear the whole story. But he gave me
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: a hug and he goes, Mummy, that's okay, Like we're
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: not all perfect, like or we can't be perfect all
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: the time or something like that, something that I've.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Said to him.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: It's like quite a profound, deep statement from what's Louis
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: five five and a half.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: You might forget that they like they mimic so much
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: of what you do.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Back to them. Do you think he understands like the
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: gravitas of what he's saying in that moment, he's just like,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I don't don't fucking worry about it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: I think he probably not the gravitas, but I know
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: he knew that it was his job then to reassure
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: me that it was okay and that we'd moved on
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: from the Yeah, I think that's what he was trying
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: to demonstrate.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Wow, he's a beautiful boy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: And then little Lily, Oh, they just bring me so
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: much joy and so I just don't want to waste
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: a second.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why I want the time.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you forget, like how quickly they are. And my
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: mom stayed with us for two nights and we have
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: the door with the heights right, and we only started
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: that at the start of the year, and there's like
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: this much growth, like a couple of inches growth for
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: each and my mum was like, holy shit, wow, Like
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: you don't understand, Like you see them every day, so
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you don't really notice. And she's like, just step back
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: and have a quick look at your son. Like the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: kid is like long, he's turning into a boy and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: he's outwitting you already and being defined and all this
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But he's grown this much. That's so
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: much like that you take that growth for granted. Imagine
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: how he feels about it, right, and it's like far
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: out you forget that. Yeah, Like just you see them
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: every day, you don't notice that the time is slipping
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: by a bit. But then when you do have those
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: moments like you had where you're like, oh, you're right,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: like this is so good because it is really when
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: it's good and it's so fun and we're all remember
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: when we all went away over Christmas and all the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: kids were together and you and I were doing silly
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: things and running up and down and everyone was having
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a good time for some of it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: That doesn't sound like us.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I run.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Out of the beach and doing some dumb stuff and
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: the kids are there just laughing at us, and it's like, yeah, dust,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you forget that, Like yeah, it happens so quick.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: There is no such thing as a perfect parent because
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it's so incredibly hard, and as much as our kids
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: do love us, they don't respect us all the time.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: But if you could wave a magic wand and make
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: yourself better in any way, in any capacity as a parent,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: what do you think it would be.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: Definitely would like to get rid of my mum rage.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: I feel like I just need more time. I feel
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: like if I had a special magic watch that could
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: give me more hours in the day, i could achieve
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: more because I want to fill my day with so
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: much with them. But then I've also got all this
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: work to do, so I'm like wit, yeah, and also
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: with like.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: My photography work as well.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: So I am working every night from the moment they
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: go to bed until about eleven and then go to bed,
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: and then sometimes I'll wake up early and I'll just
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: jump straight back onto my laptop at six am, and
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: it's a slippery slope. So that's probably one thing I'm
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: trying to get better at.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And I think that every single parent right now is like, oh, yeah,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: if I could just get like an extra cheeky one hour,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: just an extra hour.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, how do I fit everything in? And
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: at the same time enjoy having my kids at this
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: age before they go to sleep, because after they go
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to sleep, you're like, well, they're asleep now. And I
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: do this thing where I usually reflect on the day
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: after they've gone to bed, before it's too late for
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: me to maybe not repair maybe the stout or something
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: we've had, when it was like, yeah, I would have
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: liked my time back and some more time to repair that.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: But regardless of that, I think we think we think
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you're doing an amazing job. We're so happy to have
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: you here, and you've slipped into the team so effortlessly,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: and to be fair, you've a few times you've kicked
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: us into gear, which we're so bad at waffling about
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: and gossip that likes to gossip.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Come on, you know he's gonna go, and he goes.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: I don't like to gossip, and that's a lie at times. Yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you do have you have two kids at home and
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: then you've got two kids at work, So sorry about it.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like the other day is sitting on
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: my bed like waving my legs up in there. I'm like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: this is how me Matt gossip.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: Well I was just gonna say, like this is when
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I said dream job, Like I get to come to
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: work once a week and we get to laugh all day,
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: and like we're laughing from the moment we come into
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: this room, like before we even start recording. Like I
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: always look forward to my Tuesdays because I know I
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: get to see you guys, and I love the conversations
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: we have. I've got two men in my life now
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: who I get to have really fun d and ms
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: and have a laugh with.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's fun for me too.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: And I think, like I don't know if because the
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: bar are so much love for dads, But when you
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: have come in and you've talked about moments when you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: parent where you're like, oh, you know, I just wish
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I had treated this situation a little bit differently. In
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, oh my gosh, like the way
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in which you're critical on yourself in moments that I'm
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: like that would not even be a blip of my
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: radar because you're doing such a great job and you
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: care so much. I'm like, yeah, that outweighs all these
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: little moments where you're like I just didn't have enough patience.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I think you're like as a mom, as a parent,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you're outstanding.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Oh thank you. I have to say coming in here
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: and then like unlock.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: On you guys, Like what's happened with my kids? Like
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: that day or that night is like so therapeutic.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: We do treat it like therapy, Like I said, over
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the Christmas break and we didn't we had a break.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: It was like I missed my therapy sessions. And like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: if you're a parent listening right now, grab some parent
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: friends and bitch about your kids.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: Trust me, it's the fucking best. And also, if you
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: are in the northern Beaches of Sydney and maybe you'd
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: like some photos taken Vick, where can they speak to you?
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: You can go to my Instagram, Victoria owns Photography, or
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: my website Victoria owns Photography, dot com, dot you.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: But also don't get too many requests otherwise we're in trouble.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we're like Vic, why can't you work on Monday?
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Booked out?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Remember that time you shouted me out?
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: What Vic? Thank you so much for jumping on for this.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: It was going to be a fifty minute bonus episode,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: but we all know that was never gonna happen.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: And it was it forty seven minutes.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Told you get over with the boys? Anyone care?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course they care.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Thank you again for jumping on, and if you've enjoyed
• 37:00
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• 37:03
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• 37:16
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• 37:18
  Speaker 4: See you, bye bye.
• 37:34
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• 37:38
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• 37:42
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• 37:45
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• 37:48
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