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O'Brien & Doug S5:E7 [December 30, 2021 A Stern Gaze & Folded Arms] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_04: The rich runner for the Westfield Lake.
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SPEAKER_04: Doug's cut and left.
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SPEAKER_07: Yes it is.
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SPEAKER_09: Next, yo yo, this is the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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SPEAKER_07: Why don't you get down on the face that with your little friend?
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SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug Podcast.
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SPEAKER_04: I'm Orion.
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SPEAKER_03: I am Doug, and I'm not talking to my girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_06: That's public now.
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SPEAKER_06: You gotta just we won't even go there because I'll I will get uh I will get the stink eye for the rest of my life.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but you're not talking about it.
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SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about it.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, you know, number four is talking to his girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_06: It's just not his girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_06: It's it's because he's not allowed to have a girlfriend until he's fifteen.
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SPEAKER_06: That's the rule in our house.
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SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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SPEAKER_03: But he's still talking to his girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_06: Driving number three crazy.
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SPEAKER_06: He really wants a girlfriend.
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SPEAKER_03: Wasn't isn't he fifteen yet?
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SPEAKER_06: No, he's fourteen.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's right.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, turned fourteen in November.
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SPEAKER_03: Does he does he have a girlfriend?
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SPEAKER_06: He has a girl that he's talking to.
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SPEAKER_06: That's what that's the they're they're they're girls that they're talking to.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: So they're not girlfriends.
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SPEAKER_06: They're not girlfriends.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: But if they were in our generation, they would be gulping.
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SPEAKER_03: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: And you have to say it just like that.
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SPEAKER_03: Gilping.
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SPEAKER_05: We're going steady.
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SPEAKER_05: Going steady.
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SPEAKER_06: Going steady.
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SPEAKER_03: Going out.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Um.
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SPEAKER_06: So yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Season five, episode seven.
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SPEAKER_06: Seven.
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SPEAKER_03: Lucky number seven.
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SPEAKER_06: Yes.
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SPEAKER_06: I hope everybody had a great Christmas.
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SPEAKER_06: Did you have a great Christmas?
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SPEAKER_10: Yes, it was quiet.
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SPEAKER_06: It was quiet?
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: I agree.
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SPEAKER_06: Was it Be Cousin Angela posted a comment on the photo that your sister posted said that it's not a complete Christmas until I see this photo.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, the the crazy family photo.
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SPEAKER_06: The crazy family photo.
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SPEAKER_06: Yep.
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SPEAKER_06: When was that taken?
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SPEAKER_03: Uh a few years ago.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: I can't remember exactly when.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but that was classic.
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SPEAKER_06: That is your family.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, that's totally.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: The funny thing is, is that dad is acting dad's the only one that's being normal, but he looks like he's at getting into it, but he's actually just doing what he does.
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SPEAKER_06: So let's go quiet at your house then.
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SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_03: We you know, it's not a big thing anymore.
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SPEAKER_03: It's just, you know, hey, it's Christmas, all right.
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SPEAKER_03: That's over.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, it was kind of the opposite here.
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SPEAKER_06: Um, because obviously I have five children.
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SPEAKER_06: Um and all five were here.
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SPEAKER_06: So we it they she pulled a fast one on us.
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SPEAKER_06: Um so my oldest was not supposed to be here.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_03: Um Yeah, because you didn't even mention it last week.
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SPEAKER_06: No, she she wasn't coming.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: She wasn't supposed to be here, and then probably the middle of the week last week, um this is you know uh old people and electronics, I shouldn't say old people, grown-ups and electronics sometimes.
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SPEAKER_06: Um we just don't think things through.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: So my wife is in the bedroom on her computer and her phone is on the counter.
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SPEAKER_06: Well, if she messages someone on her computer on Facebook, a messenger, it also shows up on her phone.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: So my wife knew, and my oldest boy knew that my daughter was coming.
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SPEAKER_06: Because that I mean they needed she needed she, you know, they knew that she was coming.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: They were planned that they had planned it.
3:39
SPEAKER_06: But my wife didn't know when she was coming.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: So Wednesday we had that big snowstorm.
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SPEAKER_06: Yep.
3:45
SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_06: So it must have been Tuesday.
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SPEAKER_06: Tuesday, my my wife messaged my daughter, uh, when was your flight?
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SPEAKER_06: Because there's a snowstorm uh on Wednesday and blah, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_06: And that pops up on her phone.
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SPEAKER_06: And I'm happened to be walking by and I look at her phone.
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SPEAKER_06: So I walk I walk into the bedroom and I said, uh, you want to tell me something?
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SPEAKER_00: She's like, What?
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SPEAKER_06: I said, That my daughter's coming home for Christmas, and she's like, Oh.
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SPEAKER_06: So I said, I'll I'll play dumb.
4:16
SPEAKER_06: I'll play dumb.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, I I won't, you know, let her know that I know and blah, blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_06: So again, she didn't know when she was coming.
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SPEAKER_06: So my son um went to a friend's house on Thursday afternoon.
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SPEAKER_06: And I said, Are you gonna be home for supper?
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SPEAKER_06: He said, uh probably not.
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SPEAKER_06: And I said, Well what time are you getting in?
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SPEAKER_06: Because he's 18.
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SPEAKER_06: I just I don't really need to know that, but uh I'm a dad.
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SPEAKER_06: What time are you getting in?
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, I don't know, it'll be it'll be really late.
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SPEAKER_06: I was okay.
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SPEAKER_06: So we went to bed, he wasn't home yet.
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SPEAKER_06: Must have been 10 or something like that.
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SPEAKER_06: I get up to go to the bathroom at 3:30 or so.
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SPEAKER_06: As a 48-year-old man does.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:59
SPEAKER_03: And I'm very familiar with that time of time of morning.
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SPEAKER_03: And um People call it the witching hour, I call it the peeing hour.
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SPEAKER_06: So I go back to bed and my wife, who's half asleep, says because Jude's been sleeping on the couch.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Is Jude is Jude on the couch?
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SPEAKER_06: I'm like, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's been he's here.
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SPEAKER_06: Is Olivia here?
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SPEAKER_06: And I said, Is Olivia supposed to be here?
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SPEAKER_06: So I go snooping around and I come back to the bedroom.
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SPEAKER_06: I'm like, she's not here, dear.
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SPEAKER_06: She's not here.
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SPEAKER_06: And then I went, She's not in the basement, is she?
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SPEAKER_06: So I put the flashlight on on my phone, and I come down the stairs and go around the corner, and she's on this couch in the fetal position, and she sees my my flashlight, and she goes, Surprise! She's freezing because she didn't know this was a heater.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: She only had a little blanket and she didn't have that pillow.
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SPEAKER_06: She had, you know, and I said, Is that even comfortable?
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SPEAKER_06: No, she says it's not.
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SPEAKER_06: So I turned the heater on.
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SPEAKER_06: I brought her down a sleeping bag and took those back pillows out to give her a little bit more room in that couch because she wanted to surprise the kids.
6:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
6:18
SPEAKER_06: And I told her, I said, I'll I'll play dumb.
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SPEAKER_06: And uh she's like, Okay.
6:23
SPEAKER_06: So then my wife comes down to see her and you know, give her a hug and everything, because we hadn't seen her in a while.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And then she's wide awake and she's telling us stories, and we're like, um, we're going to bed.
6:37
SPEAKER_06: And so we go to bed and then we get up and it's uh Christmas Eve morning.
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SPEAKER_06: And my oldest boy, who at first didn't know that I know that she's home because he's like um he has to somehow get everyone into the kitchen all at once.
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SPEAKER_06: So he comes up with this you know, we do do the advent calendar and stuff where you turn the things, but he's like, We let's start a tradition.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: He said, Let's open up the last day of the advent calendar as a family all together.
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SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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SPEAKER_06: So everybody in the kitchen.
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SPEAKER_06: So everybody gathers in the kitchen and and uh my youngest is you know, she's reading the last day of the Advent calendar.
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SPEAKER_06: And uh he apparently he there was a phrase or something he said really loud, which was obviously a signal to Olivia, who was sitting on the stairs, and she comes up from the basement, she's like, What's for breakfast anyway?
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SPEAKER_06: And my youngest made a beeline.
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SPEAKER_06: She's like, and she just I mean, and she wouldn't let go of her.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And even even number four was just like and I had a video of it, just the look on his face was like, Oh, you you got us, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: But it was nice, it was it was uh I I would say probably the the best Christmas present was to have everybody together.
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SPEAKER_06: Absolutely, which was pretty cool, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Good.
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SPEAKER_06: Um and then they they proceeded to just kind of revert back to fighting and arguing.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, of course, that's that's what you do.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's Christmas.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: And so it was it was good.
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SPEAKER_06: We went to we went to bed.
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SPEAKER_06: My wife and I went to bed about 12 15 or 12 30, something like that, on Christmas Eve.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh and we left the cookies for Santa and everything.
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SPEAKER_06: And and um then I think one of my kids said that they woke up at 12 15 and didn't go back to sleep.
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SPEAKER_06: Which is, you know, of course what you want.
8:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
8:38
SPEAKER_06: And they somebody got up at 5 a.m.
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SPEAKER_06: and went to the bathroom, four or five a.m.
8:43
SPEAKER_06: and went to the bathroom, and then they went back to their bedroom, and I hear all of the boys are awake and talking.
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SPEAKER_06: And like, look at that one out there, that's huge.
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SPEAKER_06: I just want to shake it.
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SPEAKER_06: You know, so it was like it was annoying, but it was like kind of heartwarming.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_06: Just kind of a neat, you know, that they're actually getting along and they're talking about, you know, they're looking forward to getting out there and open the presents.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_06: So it was good.
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SPEAKER_06: We had to and and and they had a good Christmas.
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SPEAKER_06: They didn't have you know, they didn't get everything they wanted, but they never do, you know.
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SPEAKER_06: I mean, it's one of those things.
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SPEAKER_03: Well, it's it's magic's expensive.
9:23
SPEAKER_03: Right.
9:23
SPEAKER_00: You know, right.
9:25
SPEAKER_06: It's so true.
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SPEAKER_06: They came they came home from the basketball game tonight and and uh um they were like uh s they're friends.
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SPEAKER_06: So and so uh got uh Oculus as well.
9:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and so and so got Oculus too.
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SPEAKER_06: Apparently Oculus was the gift this year.
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SPEAKER_03: Is that the virtual reality toggle thing?
9:43
SPEAKER_06: Okay, yeah.
9:43
SPEAKER_06: So I said to him, I said, Well, sorry, sorry to you're left out again, guys.
9:47
SPEAKER_06: Because they don't have like they don't have Xbox, they don't have PlayStation or anything like that.
9:52
SPEAKER_03: You know, yeah, but if they did, your internet would be gone within seconds of being renewed.
9:58
SPEAKER_06: And I haven't I haven't got an update on supposedly we're supposed to get like high-speed internet out here at some point, and and I haven't heard anything, any update about that.
10:08
SPEAKER_06: So as soon as that happens, I mean we're in trouble.
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SPEAKER_06: Yep.
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SPEAKER_06: Gonna be gone.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah, but they go.
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SPEAKER_06: So anyway, it was good Christmas.
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SPEAKER_06: Good.
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SPEAKER_06: Um anything else happen?
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SPEAKER_06: I know the band is in town or gonna be in town.
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SPEAKER_06: Uh Joko's here.
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SPEAKER_03: No, well, not yet.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't think he's coming till Thursday.
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SPEAKER_06: That's no, that's Shane.
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SPEAKER_03: No, I thought that was Joko too.
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SPEAKER_03: I thought Joko was here for Christmas.
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SPEAKER_03: I think he's downstate.
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SPEAKER_03: He's downstate his sisters.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, is that what it is?
10:36
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
10:37
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
10:38
SPEAKER_06: That's why I saw a picture that was in gray.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
10:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think they're down there.
10:42
SPEAKER_06: Sorry, I didn't mean to give away your location.
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unknown: Yeah.
10:45
SPEAKER_06: Give it at it.
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SPEAKER_06: Run! So yeah, Joko will be up here soon and Shane's coming up Thursday.
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SPEAKER_06: Shane's coming up Thursday.
10:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
10:54
SPEAKER_06: Supposedly we're getting together on New Year's Eve.
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SPEAKER_06: Yep.
10:56
SPEAKER_06: Um, at your place.
10:58
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
10:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
10:59
SPEAKER_06: And uh so that'll be fun.
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SPEAKER_06: We're not gonna play or anything.
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SPEAKER_06: Oh, we should bring our guitars, I guess.
11:04
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, you know we're gonna play.
11:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, of course we're gonna play.
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SPEAKER_03: Come on.
11:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
11:07
SPEAKER_03: Let's get together and and watch and watch uh Sex in the City.
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SPEAKER_03: That's the order, though.
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SPEAKER_03: First time we've been together in what, three years?
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SPEAKER_03: The fact that you picked Sex in the City.
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SPEAKER_03: That's the only thing I can think of.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't know why.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean, that show hasn't been on in years, but I can't I don't know.
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SPEAKER_03: I don't I literally don't watch TV anymore, so I don't know what's on.
11:31
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what people people are watching, except like Yellowstone and uh that's it.
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SPEAKER_06: 1883?
11:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I almost watched that and I never got around to it.
11:42
SPEAKER_03: I watched And then and then somebody said it was very uh bleak and depressing.
11:47
SPEAKER_06: Well, it's the it's that era, yeah.
11:49
SPEAKER_06: Nah, of course.
11:50
SPEAKER_06: Westward expansion.
11:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
11:51
SPEAKER_06: Um it was uh Tim McGraw did a good job.
11:54
SPEAKER_06: I was impressed with his.
11:55
SPEAKER_03: Well, I bet it's with Sam Elliott, so I love anything with Sam Elliott.
11:58
SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
11:59
SPEAKER_06: So yeah.
11:59
SPEAKER_03: I'll probably watch it at some point.
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SPEAKER_06: So I yeah, I've seen the first episodes, and that's about it.
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SPEAKER_03: I just caught I just got caught up on like movies I hadn't seen yet, like the new James Bond movie I finally watched.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
12:09
SPEAKER_03: He's finally dead.
12:10
SPEAKER_03: Um James Bond's dead?
12:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
12:12
SPEAKER_03: Really?
12:13
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
12:14
SPEAKER_03: Can't hide it.
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SPEAKER_03: You watch him get vaporized.
12:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry.
12:17
SPEAKER_03: Spoiler alert.
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unknown: Yeah.
12:19
SPEAKER_03: So so there's no more dan.
12:21
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, it's gonna be there'll probably be another one.
12:22
SPEAKER_03: It'll be a new James Bond.
12:24
SPEAKER_03: But it won't be Daniel Craig.
12:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
12:26
SPEAKER_03: So and I watched the um what was the other one I watched?
12:32
SPEAKER_03: No, I guess you can tell how much of it impacted at can't you remember what it was?
12:37
SPEAKER_06: I just watched Adam's Family 2.
12:39
SPEAKER_06: No, I didn't watch it.
12:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because yeah.
12:42
SPEAKER_06: It was my daughter wanted to watch it, so I Oh, well, there you go.
12:44
SPEAKER_06: It was a daughter, Daddy daughtered afternoon.
12:46
SPEAKER_06: So there you go.
12:47
SPEAKER_06: Um Okay, so uh New Year's is coming up, and we figured a great way to end 2021 uh was to talk about band breakups.
12:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
12:58
SPEAKER_06: Right?
12:59
SPEAKER_06: End of the year, end of the bands.
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SPEAKER_06: And you took notes.
13:01
SPEAKER_06: I did not take notes.
13:02
SPEAKER_06: I forgot even that we were doing this until you got here.
13:05
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I actually I actually had to do like research.
13:08
SPEAKER_06: I'll be like uh I'll be shooting from the hip.
13:10
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
13:10
SPEAKER_06: Uh which is fine.
13:12
SPEAKER_03: Which is actually good for you because that's what you do.
13:16
SPEAKER_06: So okay.
13:17
SPEAKER_06: So how do you want to do this?
13:18
SPEAKER_06: We're just gonna talk about them.
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SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just I have I I have like one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, seven, I have eight bands.
13:32
SPEAKER_06: Okay, well, let's just let's just get at it.
13:35
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
13:35
SPEAKER_06: Uh we can we can kind of uh analyze it if as we go.
13:39
SPEAKER_06: What's number one?
13:40
SPEAKER_03: Number one is guns and roses.
13:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
13:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
13:43
SPEAKER_06: That was weird.
13:44
SPEAKER_03: That was a weird.
13:45
SPEAKER_03: So basically what happens is they kick the drummer out, Steven Adler.
13:48
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
13:49
SPEAKER_03: Because he's cocaine problem.
13:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's on drugs and all that stuff.
13:52
SPEAKER_03: Um I can't read my notes here because it's so um then Axl started showing up late to gigs.
14:00
SPEAKER_03: Because, you know, he's a megalomaniac.
14:03
SPEAKER_03: Right.
14:04
SPEAKER_03: Um he wanted Duff and Slash to sign away the rights to the band name.
14:10
SPEAKER_06: Oh, geez, I hadn't heard that.
14:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
14:12
SPEAKER_03: He wanted them to sign away the rights to the band name, and then they break up at 93 after the Use Your Illusion tour.
14:19
SPEAKER_06: Right.
14:20
SPEAKER_06: The spaghetti incident, was that bet before use your illusion?
14:23
SPEAKER_03: I think that was after.
14:24
SPEAKER_03: I think that was like a reconciliation type thing.
14:27
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
14:28
SPEAKER_03: But of course it didn't really do much.
14:30
SPEAKER_03: No, it was just everybody was just kind of like everybody was just kind of like done with Guns N' Roses after that.
14:36
SPEAKER_06: So So and then Slash went and did Slash's snake pit.
14:40
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
14:41
SPEAKER_06: And uh eventually um they they both did Velvet Revolver, right?
14:46
SPEAKER_06: Oh, him and Matt Sorum.
14:47
SPEAKER_06: Duff wasn't in Velvet Revolver.
14:49
SPEAKER_06: Was he?
14:49
SPEAKER_06: Duff had a different another band, Loaded.
14:52
SPEAKER_06: He was in a band called Loaded.
14:54
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
14:54
SPEAKER_06: That he fronted actually.
14:56
SPEAKER_03: Um I don't think Duff was in Velvet Revolver.
15:00
SPEAKER_03: I think he was.
15:01
SPEAKER_03: Maybe he was.
15:01
SPEAKER_06: I think it was Duff, Matt Sorum, and Slash.
15:03
SPEAKER_06: There was another guy playing guitar and Scott Wyland on vocals.
15:06
SPEAKER_06: Right.
15:06
SPEAKER_06: I'm pretty sure because they they had a base.
15:08
SPEAKER_06: I think it was Duff.
15:09
SPEAKER_06: Could have been, yeah.
15:09
SPEAKER_06: Pretty sure Velvet Revolver was basically gonna be Guns N Roses with two two different guys.
15:14
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
15:15
SPEAKER_06: Um Yeah.
15:16
SPEAKER_06: And everybody said they'll never get back together.
15:18
SPEAKER_03: And they didn't.
15:19
SPEAKER_06: For a long time for a long time.
15:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
15:22
SPEAKER_06: And now they're back together.
15:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, never say never.
15:24
SPEAKER_06: Sort of.
15:25
SPEAKER_06: Matt Sorum's not playing drums for him.
15:27
SPEAKER_06: I don't think so.
15:28
SPEAKER_06: It's just Axel, Duff, and Slash, really.
15:30
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
15:31
SPEAKER_03: You know, that are I mean, Izzy Stradlin's been gone for so long.
15:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, nobody even knows him.
15:36
SPEAKER_03: And then I don't know, you know, and I honestly don't think I saw somebody making a big deal about Steven Adler, and I'm like, mm.
15:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
15:44
SPEAKER_03: Why?
15:45
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
15:45
SPEAKER_06: He was good, but he wasn't I mean, he was I don't know.
15:49
SPEAKER_06: I think it was just because people associate like the original.
15:54
SPEAKER_06: You can't beat the original.
15:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that lineup was, you know, the you know, for appetite for destruction lineup.
15:59
SPEAKER_03: Right.
16:00
SPEAKER_06: Man, that was just And that was a killer album.
16:02
SPEAKER_06: It was.
16:02
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
16:03
SPEAKER_03: I mean it was their best album.
16:04
SPEAKER_06: I'm not a huge G and R fan.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:07
SPEAKER_06: But Appetite was a monster.
16:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:09
SPEAKER_03: It was uh It's one of those albums you listen to every track.
16:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, you know, and there was nothing like it at the time.
16:16
SPEAKER_03: Not really, no.
16:17
SPEAKER_06: You know?
16:17
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:18
SPEAKER_06: So yeah, that was a that was a messy uh uh messy divorce.
16:23
SPEAKER_06: Messy divorce was what's number two?
16:25
SPEAKER_03: This is my favorite one so far.
16:26
SPEAKER_03: The Everly brothers.
16:28
SPEAKER_03: Don and Phil?
16:29
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
16:30
SPEAKER_03: You knew they were Marines, right?
16:32
SPEAKER_03: They got drafted.
16:33
SPEAKER_06: I did not know.
16:33
SPEAKER_03: They got drafted in the 50s.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't know them.
16:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were Marines.
16:37
SPEAKER_03: But anyway, so as far as the they were they were together for like 20 years.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Then Don starts drinking and showing up drunk to gigs.
16:46
SPEAKER_03: Okay?
16:47
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
16:47
SPEAKER_03: So they're doing a show at Hollywood.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: He showed in 1973, he shows up, he's drunk, and he starts screwing up the lyrics, and then Phil takes his guitar and smashes it over Don's head and storms off the stage.
17:02
SPEAKER_03: I had not heard this.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: I hadn't heard it either.
17:04
SPEAKER_03: That's why it's my favorite one.
17:05
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
17:06
SPEAKER_03: Just because he smashed his guitar over his brother's head.
17:09
SPEAKER_03: So I just love it.
17:13
SPEAKER_03: I mean, what a way to end the band.
17:14
SPEAKER_06: It's like Can you imagine being in the audience?
17:16
SPEAKER_03: I know, right?
17:17
SPEAKER_03: Seeing that happen.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: I don't know why people don't talk about this more.
17:22
SPEAKER_03: Right.
17:26
SPEAKER_05: You're out.
17:27
SPEAKER_05: We're done with you.
17:29
SPEAKER_05: Did they eventually reconcile?
17:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm not sure, but maybe they did.
17:36
SPEAKER_06: I don't because now that I think about it.
17:38
SPEAKER_06: I don't think they really did.
17:39
SPEAKER_06: I don't think there were any albums or anything through the But I mean, after something like that, why would you want to get back together?
17:47
SPEAKER_03: Right.
17:47
SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
17:48
SPEAKER_03: I mean, I know they were brothers, but still.
17:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's just smash your gear guitar over your brother's head.
17:55
SPEAKER_03: Over your brother's head.
17:56
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
17:57
SPEAKER_03: I mean, that's how how I mean, what out of all the band breakups, that's probably my favorite one.
18:04
SPEAKER_06: I can't believe I hadn't heard that story.
18:05
SPEAKER_03: I hadn't heard of it either.
18:06
SPEAKER_03: I was like, what?
18:07
SPEAKER_03: Are you kidding me right now?
18:08
SPEAKER_03: No.
18:09
SPEAKER_03: That's so cool.
18:11
SPEAKER_03: So but that was the algorithm, brother.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: That's that's my favorite one.
18:14
SPEAKER_03: Cool.
18:15
SPEAKER_03: Uh, the police.
18:16
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah.
18:17
SPEAKER_06: Stormy storm uh uh uh stormy relationship with those guys.
18:20
SPEAKER_06: Uh uh who they actually this is well documented.
18:25
SPEAKER_06: Um uh Stuart Copeland put out a documentary.
18:28
SPEAKER_03: Um Andy Summers put out one too.
18:30
SPEAKER_06: I haven't seen that one yet.
18:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that one's pretty good.
18:33
SPEAKER_06: Um and they describe it as you've got four or three individuals that are all type A.
18:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
18:41
SPEAKER_06: And they all uh have control issues.
18:44
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
18:44
SPEAKER_06: And you put them together, and yes, they make great music, but everything else.
18:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, everything else is terrible.
18:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just you know, I mean interpersonal relationships, what's that?
18:54
SPEAKER_03: Right, you know what I mean?
18:55
SPEAKER_06: Right.
18:55
SPEAKER_06: It's just you know and wasn't there uh wasn't their manager Stuart's brother, Miles Copeland?
19:03
SPEAKER_03: I don't know about that.
19:04
SPEAKER_06: I know he was a manager, maybe he wasn't their manager, but he was a manager anyway.
19:09
SPEAKER_03: But I mean it was just it was basically Sting just started, you know, becoming the front, you know, the face of the band and started taking things over and everybody else is like, yeah, screw this.
19:19
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
19:19
SPEAKER_03: And then they break up in 84.
19:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
19:21
SPEAKER_06: So and haven't looked back.
19:23
SPEAKER_06: Haven't looked back.
19:23
SPEAKER_06: They did do a reunion tour, did they?
19:25
SPEAKER_03: They did do yes, yeah, yeah.
19:26
SPEAKER_03: Because that's part of Andy Summers' uh documentary is about them getting but that's like the end, you know, interspersed with them, uh with uh him telling the story.
19:34
SPEAKER_06: Right.
19:35
SPEAKER_06: So just kind of tie up loose ends and just kind of mentioned.
19:39
SPEAKER_03: Here we are, you know, we're getting back together.
19:41
SPEAKER_06: We're not gonna stay together.
19:42
SPEAKER_03: We're not gonna stay together, but we're back together.
19:44
SPEAKER_03: Right.
19:44
SPEAKER_03: We need money.
19:45
SPEAKER_11: Right.
19:46
SPEAKER_11: That's it.
19:46
SPEAKER_11: So that sums it up right now.
19:48
SPEAKER_03: Why else would you you know?
19:50
unknown: Yeah.
19:50
SPEAKER_03: Especially those three guys.
19:52
SPEAKER_03: Because I mean, all three of them on their own did very well.
19:55
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
19:55
SPEAKER_03: They didn't really need the band at that point.
19:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
19:58
SPEAKER_06: See, the thing is, when you have a band like that, I mean, how many times do you think uh the Eagles were offered millions of dollars to reunite and go on tour and they turn them down until the hell freezes over tour, obviously.
20:13
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:13
SPEAKER_06: Uh how many times were the Beatles offered millions of dollars?
20:17
SPEAKER_03: Well, it's famous for Lauren Michaels.
20:19
SPEAKER_06: I remember that.
20:19
SPEAKER_03: Remember that skate on Saturday night ordered uh he gave he was gonna give uh George Harrison like three thousand dollars or two thousand dollars or something like that.
20:28
SPEAKER_06: But yeah, I bet you that's you know what happened with the police.
20:31
SPEAKER_06: I will give you ten million dollars if you go on tour like this promoter or something like that.
20:36
SPEAKER_06: And it's like, oh we can we can handle each other for that.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: I could use a couple mil.
20:40
SPEAKER_06: All right, let's do it.
20:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:42
SPEAKER_03: So speaking of the Eagles, is that the next one?
20:45
SPEAKER_06: That's the next one.
20:46
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
20:46
SPEAKER_03: Uh let's see.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: Well, here's my notes.
20:49
SPEAKER_03: Don and Glenn were ambitious and driven.
20:51
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: Uh Bernie Leadon, uh Leadon, yeah.
20:55
SPEAKER_06: Yep, Bernie Leaden.
20:56
SPEAKER_03: Leadon and Randy Meisner quit due to the toxic toxic atmosphere caused by Don and Glenn.
21:02
SPEAKER_03: Don and Glenn.
21:03
unknown: Yeah.
21:04
SPEAKER_03: Um, and of course, we all know Joe Walsh.
21:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
21:08
SPEAKER_03: Always drunk and stoned.
21:10
SPEAKER_06: Joe Walsh wasn't in the band in the in the beginning.
21:12
SPEAKER_06: Not in the beginning, but he replaced uh Bernie.
21:15
SPEAKER_06: Bernie Leadon.
21:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
21:16
SPEAKER_06: Right.
21:17
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
21:17
SPEAKER_03: Um Timothy was just kind of there.
21:21
SPEAKER_03: He was the nice guy.
21:22
SPEAKER_03: He was just kind of there.
21:23
SPEAKER_06: Timothy who replaced Randy Meisner.
21:25
SPEAKER_03: Timothy B.
21:25
SPEAKER_03: Schmidt.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:26
SPEAKER_03: So um, but they did in 1980, they did this benefit show for Senator Alan Cranston, and Don Felder was playing with him at that point.
21:36
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
21:38
SPEAKER_03: And apparently Don Felder told Cranston's wife, nice to meet you, I guess.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: Glenn overhears this and gets super mad at Dawn.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: And during the show, you can overhear them talking to each other.
21:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna kick your ass after this.
21:55
SPEAKER_03: I've heard we got three songs left, and I'm kicking your ass.
21:58
SPEAKER_03: I have heard that.
22:01
SPEAKER_06: I bet you you could find that.
22:02
SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
22:04
SPEAKER_03: History of the Eagles.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:05
SPEAKER_03: It's on there.
22:06
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
22:07
SPEAKER_03: So it's on there.
22:08
SPEAKER_03: It's well documented.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
22:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but you yeah, you could hear them like on each other.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:12
SPEAKER_03: You just back and forth.
22:13
SPEAKER_03: Back three more songs, three more songs.
22:15
SPEAKER_03: You're mine.
22:16
SPEAKER_10: Stuff like that.
22:18
SPEAKER_03: And then after the show, Felder jumped in his limousine, he was gone, and that's when they broke up.
22:23
SPEAKER_06: That's when they broke up, and then and then they got back together for the Hellfreezes over tour, and then they screwed Don Felder, basically.
22:31
SPEAKER_06: Did it again because he he left again.
22:33
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
22:33
SPEAKER_03: So Don Felder.
22:36
SPEAKER_03: Uh well, good luck to you, man.
22:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right.
22:39
SPEAKER_06: He's doing all right right now, I think.
22:41
SPEAKER_06: Well, I'm sure he's right.
22:41
SPEAKER_06: He's doing all those uh nostalgia tours and stuff.
22:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why not?
22:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean you you could do it so right.
22:46
SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, but so that's that's a fun one.
22:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
22:48
SPEAKER_03: That's a fun breakup.
22:50
SPEAKER_03: Three more songs of kicking your ass.
22:53
SPEAKER_05: I mean, the thing is, how funny is that?
22:56
SPEAKER_06: Just if that's the only thing my family heard upstairs.
22:58
SPEAKER_06: Oh sorry, what did he say?
23:01
SPEAKER_05: He said three more songs and I'm kicking your ass.
23:03
SPEAKER_05: Maybe we should go down there.
23:04
SPEAKER_05: Should we check on them?
23:06
SPEAKER_05: What are they doing?
23:08
SPEAKER_03: Uh okay.
23:09
SPEAKER_03: So the next one I got notes for is Queensrake.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
23:13
unknown: Yeah.
23:13
SPEAKER_03: Which I which what I had no idea any of this happened.
23:17
SPEAKER_03: So in 2012, they're in Brazil, and before the gig I something about spitting on uh Jeff Tate, right?
23:24
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's part of it.
23:25
SPEAKER_06: Or Jeff Tate spit on the drummer or something like that.
23:27
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
23:28
SPEAKER_03: Well, they that's what they said happened, but somebody said it didn't happen.
23:31
SPEAKER_03: Uh but anyway.
23:33
SPEAKER_03: They get so Jeff Tate's wife was their manager.
23:36
SPEAKER_06: Which is always fun.
23:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
23:39
SPEAKER_03: So the band gets together before this gig in Brazil, tells Jeff's wife that she's fired.
23:46
SPEAKER_03: So that kind of oh before Jeff no, no, just the other band.
23:50
SPEAKER_03: The other band was during the show, Scott Rockenfeld, the drummer.
23:56
SPEAKER_03: Drummer, yeah.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
23:58
SPEAKER_03: Allegedly says, uh We fired your whole family and you're next to Jeff Tate.
24:05
SPEAKER_03: And that's supposedly when Jeff uh spit on Scott.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: Right.
24:10
SPEAKER_03: But uh other people have said he tried to punch him, and you know, and he and everybody, you know, everybody but Jeff Tate says that never happened.
24:20
SPEAKER_06: They've all got different stories, yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was all unprovoked, and so they break up.
24:25
SPEAKER_06: So what happens?
24:25
SPEAKER_03: So so then they become so then the fight for the band name went on for years.
24:30
SPEAKER_06: Long time.
24:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
24:32
SPEAKER_03: But it was eventually everybody but Jeff Tate could stay Queensrake and Jeff Tate became Operation Mind Crime.
24:39
SPEAKER_06: Right.
24:40
SPEAKER_03: Which was probably their most famous album.
24:42
SPEAKER_06: Right, which I think is a stupid band name.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's not very good.
24:45
SPEAKER_03: And and the uh but the albums are pretty good.
24:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_06: I have a is he still Operation Mind Crime?
24:50
SPEAKER_06: He still is, yeah.
24:51
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
24:51
SPEAKER_03: Uh I have two or three of the at least two of the Mind Crime albums.
24:56
SPEAKER_06: Right.
24:57
SPEAKER_03: And they're pretty good.
24:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're more like they're concept albums.
25:00
SPEAKER_06: And Queensreich uh went on with a new lead singer who sounds great.
25:05
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, sounds like a lot of sounds a lot like Jeff Tate.
25:07
SPEAKER_06: I can't remember his name though.
25:08
SPEAKER_06: I can't either.
25:09
unknown: Crap.
25:09
SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
25:10
SPEAKER_03: I don't think his name's crap, though.
25:11
SPEAKER_06: No, it's not crap.
25:12
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_06: No.
25:13
SPEAKER_03: But anyway.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: So that was a I I had no idea any of that happened.
25:17
SPEAKER_03: So that was an interesting read.
25:19
SPEAKER_03: Uh The Beatles.
25:21
SPEAKER_03: Everybody?
25:22
SPEAKER_03: I know, I know, surprise, right?
25:24
SPEAKER_03: Um apparently John left in '69 and didn't say anything to anybody.
25:30
SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't until Paul released his solo album in 70 that everybody was like, Oh, did you guys break up?
25:36
SPEAKER_03: And then John Lennon's like, Yeah, I've been gone for like a year.
25:38
SPEAKER_03: Well, so but there was more to that.
25:40
SPEAKER_06: So didn't Paul come out uh either before his solo album or right after his solo album was released and said I there was like a headline that he's quitting the Beatles.
25:50
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
25:50
SPEAKER_06: So you're saying John Lennon quit first.
25:53
SPEAKER_03: Well that when that came out, they thought, Oh, Paul quit the Beatles, so now the Beatles are over and John Lennon came out and said, Well, I've been gone for a year.
26:00
SPEAKER_06: Right.
26:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we've been gone.
26:01
SPEAKER_03: We've been done for a year.
26:02
SPEAKER_06: Right.
26:02
SPEAKER_03: And you're just you know hearing about it just because Paul came out with his album.
26:06
SPEAKER_03: Right.
26:06
SPEAKER_06: So I'm just kind of filtering through that in my head.
26:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
26:12
SPEAKER_06: Can you imagine if they were still making music today?
26:14
SPEAKER_03: Oh, it would have been amazing, man.
26:15
SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean they would have stopped, but John.
26:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
26:19
SPEAKER_03: But still, I mean if they'd either just kept going, man, it would have been amazing.
26:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
26:23
SPEAKER_03: The amount of music and the stuff they would have done.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: There would be no other bands.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: The Rolling Stones would be gone, gone.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: You know?
26:33
SPEAKER_03: You think so?
26:33
SPEAKER_03: Probably, man.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: They they would have been over they were always overshadowed.
26:36
SPEAKER_06: Well, the Beatles weren't e weren't touring, though.
26:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:38
SPEAKER_06: You know.
26:39
SPEAKER_03: But they I think they would have gone back.
26:41
SPEAKER_06: To touring?
26:42
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
26:42
SPEAKER_03: Now that the that technology's that the technology got better and stuff like that, and everybody wasn't like ah all the time.
26:50
SPEAKER_06: Right.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: So I think they would have gone back to touring.
26:53
SPEAKER_03: Maybe not to the extent that they were.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, obviously.
26:56
SPEAKER_03: But you know, not to the extent that they did, you know, during Beatlemania.
27:00
SPEAKER_06: Right.
27:01
SPEAKER_03: But I think they would have gone back eventually.
27:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
27:04
SPEAKER_03: So because that's where all the money is.
27:05
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:06
SPEAKER_06: Of course.
27:07
SPEAKER_03: Uh course Van Halen is a famous breakup.
27:11
SPEAKER_03: It's pretty much the Van Halen brothers versus everybody.
27:14
SPEAKER_06: They didn't really break up though.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: Nah.
27:17
SPEAKER_03: They kinda the it was like kicking people out.
27:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh, we don't like you anymore.
27:23
SPEAKER_06: Right.
27:24
SPEAKER_06: Well.
27:24
SPEAKER_03: You know.
27:25
SPEAKER_06: Roth quit.
27:26
SPEAKER_03: Roth quit.
27:28
SPEAKER_03: Jody got married.
27:30
SPEAKER_03: Um.
27:33
SPEAKER_03: How did I bring Brian Adams into this?
27:36
SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah.
27:37
SPEAKER_03: But you know, and then they bring Sammy on, Sammy gets sick of the brothers, and then he leaves.
27:42
SPEAKER_03: He quits.
27:44
SPEAKER_03: It was fired.
27:45
SPEAKER_03: Well, according to the Van Halen brothers.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: Right.
27:49
SPEAKER_03: So.
27:50
SPEAKER_03: So that's what I say.
27:51
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's the Van Halen Brothers versus the world.
27:53
SPEAKER_06: Right.
27:54
SPEAKER_03: So.
27:55
SPEAKER_06: What's your next one?
27:56
SPEAKER_03: Uh Simon and Garfunkel.
27:58
SPEAKER_06: Hell.
27:59
SPEAKER_03: This was kind of a fun one.
28:00
SPEAKER_03: Uh while recording the album Bridge Over Traveled Waters, they couldn't decide on the 12th song for the album, so they only put 11 on there.
28:10
SPEAKER_03: Then on a reunion album in the 80s, Paul removed Garfunkel's vocals, then released it as a solo project.
28:19
SPEAKER_06: Holy cow, I did not know.
28:20
SPEAKER_06: I didn't know how to know that either.
28:22
SPEAKER_03: I was like, what?
28:23
SPEAKER_06: Wow.
28:24
SPEAKER_03: What a jerk.
28:28
SPEAKER_03: I know, right?
28:29
SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
28:30
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
28:31
SPEAKER_03: I thought that was pretty.
28:32
SPEAKER_03: I mean, but I mean they had to have 12 songs, but they couldn't come home, so they put out 11.
28:36
SPEAKER_11: Right.
28:36
SPEAKER_11: And then A removes Garp Focals out vocals.
28:42
SPEAKER_11: Wow.
28:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I mean, I'm like, I mean, how how how friggin' like how obvious it is it though?
28:48
SPEAKER_03: Oh, you're out.
28:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
28:49
SPEAKER_03: You know, we're done.
28:51
SPEAKER_06: I'm trying to think of some off the top of my head.
28:54
SPEAKER_06: Uh, you got them all.
28:55
SPEAKER_06: I mean, I mean, those are pretty high profile.
28:58
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
28:58
SPEAKER_06: Um just bands that aren't here anymore.
29:04
SPEAKER_06: The Donna's.
29:06
SPEAKER_06: I like the Donna.
29:07
SPEAKER_06: I did too.
29:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
29:08
SPEAKER_06: And they're gone.
29:09
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they're gone.
29:10
SPEAKER_06: So that's a band breakup, I guess.
29:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
29:12
SPEAKER_06: I I don't know what the reasonings were.
29:13
SPEAKER_06: I know one of them had some health issues or something.
29:17
SPEAKER_06: Who else?
29:19
SPEAKER_03: Well a lot of them are in, you know, landed by, you know.
29:22
SPEAKER_03: Well, like Rush.
29:24
SPEAKER_03: You know, Pierre died.
29:25
SPEAKER_03: They're done.
29:26
SPEAKER_06: They're done.
29:27
SPEAKER_03: You know?
29:27
SPEAKER_03: They didn't break up, but they're just done.
29:29
SPEAKER_03: You know?
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Um Metallica almost broke up.
29:36
SPEAKER_06: Right.
29:37
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, there was that, you know.
29:39
SPEAKER_06: Um Journey.
29:43
SPEAKER_06: Oh, Journey.
29:44
SPEAKER_06: Technically, because after Steve Perry left after uh raised on radio, the other two guys went and formed bad English.
29:55
SPEAKER_06: Right.
29:56
SPEAKER_06: So Journey was gone.
29:57
SPEAKER_06: Journey was done.
29:58
SPEAKER_06: And they got back together for trial by fire, and then Steve Perry quit again.
30:02
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:03
SPEAKER_06: Um I'm trying to think.
30:06
SPEAKER_06: There's gotta be there's gotta be a ton of them that were bad.
30:08
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm sure there's more.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: I mean, there's more.
30:10
SPEAKER_03: Those are those were my you know favorite ones in the world.
30:12
SPEAKER_03: Again, they got the high profile ones.
30:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the high profile ones.
30:15
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:16
SPEAKER_06: So uh cream.
30:22
unknown: Right?
30:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, cream.
30:23
SPEAKER_03: I bet I, you know, how how are you gonna stay in a band with Ginger Baker?
30:28
SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
30:29
SPEAKER_03: I mean that guy that guy is legitimately crazy or was legitimately crazy.
30:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know.
30:35
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, great drummer, great musician.
30:38
SPEAKER_03: Crazy.
30:39
SPEAKER_03: Wow.
30:40
SPEAKER_03: Whacked up.
30:41
SPEAKER_03: Did you ever see the uh documentary?
30:42
SPEAKER_06: I watched pieces of it.
30:44
SPEAKER_03: He in the beginning, he whacks, he he he hits the guy making the documentary with his cane or something like that, because he made him mad.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, dude.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: I did see that part.
30:53
SPEAKER_03: It's like holy crap.
30:57
SPEAKER_06: Um so there you go.
30:58
SPEAKER_06: Uh famous band breakups uh to wrap up uh 2021.
31:04
SPEAKER_06: Um anything else going on in the news?
31:06
SPEAKER_06: I know Clapton's in the news.
31:07
SPEAKER_06: Did you hear any of that?
31:08
SPEAKER_06: No.
31:09
SPEAKER_06: Um well the whole the whole vaccine thing, he you know, he's going off about that and um being vilified for for his his stance on that.
31:19
SPEAKER_06: Um but also um he well, he's just put out a new song called The Heart of a Child, where where he's kind of um bashing the media, which the media needs to be bashed as far as I'm concerned.
31:31
SPEAKER_06: But um the other thing is that he took this lady to court and come to find out it wasn't him, it was his people.
31:39
SPEAKER_06: Um took this lady to court.
31:41
SPEAKER_06: Uh I wish I had it in front of me because I don't want to m misinterpret it, but she had she had a live bootleg of one of his concerts from the 70s, um, and she sold it on eBay for nine dollars or something like that.
31:59
SPEAKER_06: And he sued her and won, and she had to pay all the court costs for both both sides, which was like four thousand dollars or something.
32:10
SPEAKER_06: For a nine dollar bootleg.
32:12
SPEAKER_06: For a nine dollar live bootleg.
32:14
unknown: Wow.
32:15
SPEAKER_06: Um and now they're they're on damage control because um all hi you know, his people are saying Eric has nothing to do with this, actually.
32:24
SPEAKER_06: It was it was his management and everything that spearheaded this lawsuit and and all that stuff, and Eric Clapton has you know, he didn't even know about it until this and that and blah blah blah.
32:35
SPEAKER_06: Turns out now he's not he's like, I don't want any any uh money.
32:41
SPEAKER_06: Just take me out of it.
32:43
SPEAKER_06: He said I I don't want to I'll you know, we'll I'll pay the court costs.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but what to Eric Clapton, what is four thousand dollars?
32:50
SPEAKER_03: Right exactly.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: He probably can find that in the cushions of his couch.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: Exactly.
32:53
SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
32:54
SPEAKER_06: And I I think he's probably his he's probably taken his management team to task for doing something so stupid.
33:01
SPEAKER_03: Uh but taking this woman's nine dollar bootleg from the 70s.
33:08
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: And so And she only got nine bucks for it.
33:11
SPEAKER_06: I was looking on on Facebook, uh uh there was an article about this and the amount and and and I think it's since his whole vaccine thing, you know, uh because he got the vaccine um and it had an effect on him physically.
33:29
SPEAKER_03: Well I think that's what started the whole Right, yeah.
33:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and so he's against the vaccine because it it can do damage according to him.
33:37
SPEAKER_06: And um so I went on one of these articles about this lawsuit and reading the comments, but the amount of hate that he is getting just in general, regardless of this court case, is uh ridiculous.
33:52
SPEAKER_06: I mean it's uh it's it's not a civilized role anymore.
33:56
SPEAKER_06: It is not, is it?
33:58
SPEAKER_06: I mean it's cancel culture is is alive.
34:01
SPEAKER_03: But I don't think it's that.
34:02
SPEAKER_03: I think it's it's because you can go on anybody's social media, say whatever you want, and there's no repercussions.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: That's true.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: Because if in the old days, if you want to just bad mouth somebody, you had to be there.
34:15
SPEAKER_06: And do it to their face.
34:16
SPEAKER_03: Do it to their face, and you probably would get the crap beat out of you depending on who it was.
34:22
SPEAKER_11: Right.
34:22
SPEAKER_03: See, nobody's getting the crap.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: That's the problem.
34:24
SPEAKER_11: Right.
34:25
SPEAKER_03: These people aren't getting the crap beat out of them for these things that they're saying.
34:28
SPEAKER_03: So they I've I'm empowered.
34:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: No, you're just a jerk.
34:34
SPEAKER_06: I think the advent of social media is the downfall of civilization, to be honest with you.
34:39
SPEAKER_03: It's one of them.
34:40
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
34:40
SPEAKER_06: There's many others.
34:41
SPEAKER_06: Yes, you're right.
34:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it's just anyway, and not to get on a negative note, let's do uh uh I I found some things that I wanted to uh tell you about.
34:52
SPEAKER_06: Um remember uh the last podcast we were talking about, because it was it was before Christmas, that that I had written a Christmas song.
34:59
SPEAKER_06: Right.
35:00
SPEAKER_06: And you couldn't remember it.
35:01
SPEAKER_06: I did not remember it.
35:02
SPEAKER_06: I found it.
35:03
SPEAKER_06: There is a a recording of our original bass player, Nathan Brewer and I, at his father's house.
35:09
SPEAKER_06: We sat down and we recorded, I don't know, six or seven songs, and that was one of them.
35:13
SPEAKER_06: Oh and I don't know, I I don't really want to play it, but I wanted to tell you that there's a recording of it.
35:21
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
35:21
SPEAKER_06: So next next holiday, maybe we'll dig that out.
35:24
SPEAKER_03: Well Bill, we'll we'll dig it out for next Christmas.
35:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
35:26
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
35:27
SPEAKER_06: Um and the other thing is I found some other songs.
35:31
SPEAKER_06: Um I found I I I know we did this live one time on on a podcast, but I found the the version of NGS.
35:37
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
35:37
SPEAKER_06: Uh Nice Guy Syndrome, the original version.
35:40
SPEAKER_06: I found a bunch of songs that Nate wrote uh and actually sang.
35:44
SPEAKER_06: Um so we'll kind of we what I'm saying is we've got kind of uh content for Comic Crossing songs of the week.
35:51
SPEAKER_06: We've we found archives.
35:52
SPEAKER_06: Yes, we did.
35:53
SPEAKER_06: And they're they're terrible.
35:54
SPEAKER_06: It's like but they're there.
35:56
SPEAKER_03: It's like finding the Ark of the Covenant.
35:58
SPEAKER_03: Right.
35:58
SPEAKER_03: We have your Indiana Jones.
36:00
SPEAKER_03: Right.
36:01
SPEAKER_03: But there's no snakes.
36:03
SPEAKER_06: There's no snakes.
36:04
SPEAKER_06: Um so we've got a lot to choose from uh for at least a few weeks.
36:08
SPEAKER_06: Well, that's good.
36:08
SPEAKER_06: Um that we can we can dig through.
36:11
SPEAKER_06: But I found one I dare say it's the one that started it all.
36:18
SPEAKER_06: Right?
36:18
SPEAKER_03: I would say that, yeah.
36:20
SPEAKER_06: Because um let's go back.
36:24
SPEAKER_06: We've had Bob on the show before.
36:26
SPEAKER_06: Um our friend Bob who lives downstate, and uh we were best friends.
36:32
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
36:32
SPEAKER_06: You Bob and I were best friends through junior high.
36:35
SPEAKER_06: You guys you were we were in high school and we were in junior high and and uh we hung out all the time and just did everything together.
36:43
SPEAKER_06: And so when I was starting my songwriting, one of the first songs that I wrote, actually it's not when I f when I was starting my songwriting, but it was kind of when I was starting my songwriting.
36:56
SPEAKER_03: I mean it was it was reaching its uh You were getting more potent and more confident in your songwriting.
37:05
SPEAKER_05: I don't think I had written many songs before this, I guess is my thing.
37:09
SPEAKER_06: Um This was like your first big one that you really one that meant something.
37:15
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
37:15
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
37:16
SPEAKER_06: Anyway, um and I don't know that it a lot of it makes sense, but um I say that about every one of my songs.
37:24
SPEAKER_06: But the song is called Three Strangers, and we've talked about it, but we've never played it.
37:29
SPEAKER_06: Right.
37:29
SPEAKER_06: Well, I found two versions of it.
37:32
SPEAKER_06: There's a a version that I found on a cassette that had some of our old songs on it that was recorded with like a drum machine.
37:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
37:39
SPEAKER_06: Um and the everything, the sound on it is awful.
37:43
SPEAKER_06: Um and then I found when I went to college uh in '92, I went to a place that had a recording studio, and you had guys and gals that were trying to learn how to record bands and and and it's ironically the same place where we recorded our debut.
38:01
SPEAKER_06: It is full circle.
38:05
SPEAKER_06: But this was so I was going to school there and I I knew a guy that played guitar, so I asked him to play lead guitar, and uh listening back, it's pretty awful, but we were all pretty awful back then.
38:19
SPEAKER_06: I think there's a drummer on here.
38:22
SPEAKER_06: If not, it's a drum machine or like a loop.
38:26
SPEAKER_06: But I'm pretty sure it's a drummer.
38:28
SPEAKER_06: Um anyway, it was kind of somebody else was was trying to learn how to use the mixer and stuff, and they said, Do you have a song?
38:35
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, let's do your song.
38:36
SPEAKER_06: So we did Three Strangers.
38:38
SPEAKER_06: So I have that recording.
38:40
SPEAKER_06: Uh so this is a song uh recorded at the New England School of Communications now.
38:46
SPEAKER_06: At the time it was the New England School of Broadcasting, and um in 1992, and so which is almost almost 30 years ago.
38:56
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
38:57
SPEAKER_06: And uh so this is about myself, Doug, and Bob.
39:03
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
39:03
SPEAKER_06: We were three strangers who knew each other well.
39:06
SPEAKER_06: Um so let's let's fire that up right now.
39:09
SPEAKER_06: Fire it up.
43:08
SPEAKER_06: Wow, there's like wrong chords, wrong notes all over the place in there.
43:12
SPEAKER_02: That's not the point.
43:13
SPEAKER_06: And the guitar is really the the I mean, it was just really awful, but it's okay because we have that recording of that song.
43:20
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
43:21
SPEAKER_06: Uh which was pretty still around, man.
43:23
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was pretty cool and it's pretty special, actually.
43:26
SPEAKER_06: Uh and that's the first thing.
43:27
SPEAKER_03: That's that that's also late 80s, early next 90s technology, too.
43:31
SPEAKER_06: So true.
43:32
SPEAKER_06: And and and and done by students who really didn't know what they were doing.
43:36
SPEAKER_06: Right.
43:36
SPEAKER_03: So um and to have anything that's any sort of quality?
43:41
SPEAKER_06: Right.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
43:43
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
43:44
SPEAKER_06: Look at so that's not much better quality than we have on our cassettes with our four-track, and that's in a studio.
43:52
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:53
SPEAKER_03: That just tells that that just tells you how you know what what the technology was back in our day.
43:58
SPEAKER_03: Right.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: When we were on to record, we had to chisel it out on rocks.
44:06
SPEAKER_03: Each note.
44:09
SPEAKER_05: So there you have it.
44:10
SPEAKER_05: How do you make a G?
44:12
SPEAKER_06: The uh Three Strangers.
44:15
SPEAKER_06: The Comic Crossing story.
44:17
SPEAKER_11: Every good boy deserves fudge of the week.
44:21
SPEAKER_06: And we are gonna climb the wall of tunes in a second.
44:25
SPEAKER_06: The final wall of tunes of 2021.
44:27
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
44:28
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
44:28
SPEAKER_03: Let's think back about our final, you know, our our you know, other wall of tunes over the year.
44:34
SPEAKER_06: Let's do that.
44:35
SPEAKER_06: Ready?
44:37
SPEAKER_06: That was awesome.
44:38
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it was great.
44:38
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45:54
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46:02
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46:03
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46:04
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46:07
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46:09
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46:12
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46:12
SPEAKER_06: See?
46:13
unknown: All right.
46:13
SPEAKER_06: So it's also cover your eyes.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: Well, I'm uh I I wanted to compliment you on your Abbey Road uh poster there.
46:20
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, I did some changing around.
46:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
46:23
SPEAKER_06: I framed some things and uh I figured Abbey Road needed framing.
46:27
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
46:27
SPEAKER_06: And I moved some things around.
46:28
SPEAKER_03: One of the most iconic uh pictures in rock and roll.
46:31
SPEAKER_06: I think the feng shui works a little better now because I've got three framed I got the Blues brothers over here, BB King over here, the Beatles here.
46:38
SPEAKER_06: Huey Lewis and the news.
46:41
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, baby.
46:42
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
46:42
SPEAKER_03: So it was it's very nice.
46:43
SPEAKER_03: It was very, very well represented.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: I thought so, but thank you.
46:47
SPEAKER_03: That was good, man.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate it.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: I like it.
46:49
SPEAKER_03: All right, I covered it.
46:50
SPEAKER_03: Cover your eyes.
46:51
SPEAKER_03: I don't want to.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Do it.
46:52
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I'll just do that.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can't be done.
47:07
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I have one.
47:13
SPEAKER_03: That was suspiciously quick, which makes me think that you did pre- Nope, I didn't.
47:18
SPEAKER_03: It was like some sort of like subconsciously Nope.
47:24
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: I didn't.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: I don't believe you, but alright.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: You don't have to believe me.
47:31
SPEAKER_03: I don't.
47:32
SPEAKER_03: And I'm not going to.
47:35
SPEAKER_01: Alright.
47:37
SPEAKER_05: Let the guessing begin.
47:39
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
47:40
SPEAKER_05: Sono or a band.
47:41
SPEAKER_05: Band.
47:42
SPEAKER_03: Band.
47:44
SPEAKER_03: Alright, so that's a band.
47:50
SPEAKER_03: Pop rock?
47:52
SPEAKER_06: Pop rock.
47:53
SPEAKER_06: If I had to if I had to alternative maybe, but Okay.
47:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh height of popularity.
47:59
SPEAKER_06: 90s.
47:59
SPEAKER_03: 90s.
48:00
SPEAKER_03: 90s pop rock.
48:05
SPEAKER_03: Was Common Crossing influenced by this band?
48:10
SPEAKER_06: I can't say no.
48:13
SPEAKER_06: Um I was not a huge fan of this band.
48:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
48:18
SPEAKER_06: Um because they had one song that just really grinded my gears.
48:24
SPEAKER_06: Everybody loved this song.
48:25
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
48:26
SPEAKER_06: But it just grinded my gears.
48:27
SPEAKER_03: Is it like are they like a one-hit wonder?
48:29
SPEAKER_03: Nope.
48:30
SPEAKER_06: No, they've had a f they've had a few hits.
48:32
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
48:33
SPEAKER_03: Any virtuosos in the so pop rock.
48:41
SPEAKER_06: Actually, I don't know many other members of the band besides the lead singer.
48:46
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
48:46
SPEAKER_06: Like their names.
48:48
SPEAKER_06: Uh I know that there was a member.
48:50
SPEAKER_06: I don't think he was an original member, but uh uh if I tell you this, you might get it.
48:57
SPEAKER_06: Dave Immerglock, who was the guitar player for John Hyatt for a long time, the big bearded guy.
49:04
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
49:04
SPEAKER_06: He was in this band.
49:05
SPEAKER_06: Or may he still be in this band.
49:08
SPEAKER_06: No.
49:09
SPEAKER_06: I don't think he was in it originally.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: Did he have a beard back then?
49:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
49:20
SPEAKER_03: I think so.
49:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay, I need some more clue either.
49:27
SPEAKER_06: Um I would I would throw them in with Hootie and possibly the gym blossoms, and possibly Toad.
49:36
SPEAKER_06: That whole nineties vibe.
49:39
SPEAKER_03: Was it the uh breakfast that Japanese guys?
49:42
SPEAKER_06: Nope.
49:42
SPEAKER_06: Um I can't remember their name.
49:47
SPEAKER_06: That was uh that was uh Who was that?
49:52
SPEAKER_06: I can't remember.
49:53
SPEAKER_06: Blue something?
49:57
SPEAKER_03: I just remember that song.
49:58
SPEAKER_06: I'll look that up after that.
50:00
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so that's good.
50:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh how many members are this band?
50:05
SPEAKER_06: I'm guessing five.
50:07
SPEAKER_06: Five?
50:08
SPEAKER_06: Maybe four now.
50:09
SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
50:10
SPEAKER_06: I think five.
50:17
SPEAKER_06: No, same idea.
50:21
SPEAKER_06: They were b they were they had one song actually their first single, maybe, that was uh you remember how Blues Traveler had run around.
50:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
50:35
SPEAKER_06: This band had a song like that that was played incessantly.
50:40
SPEAKER_06: And um if I d if I say this, I'll give it away, but the lead singer always sounded like he was crying.
50:48
SPEAKER_06: Like it was oh creed, was it?
50:53
SPEAKER_06: No.
50:58
SPEAKER_06: We uh I think uh there was talk of us playing this one song at one point, and I put the kibosh on it just because I didn't want to play it.
51:09
SPEAKER_03: That could be so many songs.
51:17
SPEAKER_06: I still I still they're not my favorite band, but I don't mind them.
51:20
SPEAKER_06: Obviously, I kept one of their CDs.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, obviously.
51:23
SPEAKER_06: It's not it's not it's not working.
51:25
SPEAKER_03: Nothing's nothing's coming to mind because there are just so many bands back then.
51:29
SPEAKER_06: Right.
51:29
SPEAKER_06: What if I played it?
51:31
SPEAKER_06: See if you can get it.
51:32
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
51:33
SPEAKER_06: Actually, I know you'll get it.
51:34
SPEAKER_06: I know you you'll get it.
51:39
SPEAKER_11: Oh, it's counting crows.
51:41
SPEAKER_11: It is counting crows.
51:42
SPEAKER_11: Um at least Yeah, yeah, it does sound like that.
51:48
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: This is the song you were talking about.
51:59
SPEAKER_03: It is, yeah, yeah.
52:01
SPEAKER_06: Me and Mr.
52:02
SPEAKER_06: Jones, it was it was Mr.
52:05
SPEAKER_06: Jones.
52:06
SPEAKER_06: It was Mr.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: Jones, I thought it was Mrs.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: Jones.
52:08
SPEAKER_06: No, me and Mrs.
52:08
SPEAKER_06: Jones is another s oh that's the other side Mr.
52:12
SPEAKER_06: Jones and me, right?
52:13
SPEAKER_06: Mr.
52:14
SPEAKER_06: Jones and other And Mr.
52:16
SPEAKER_06: Sugge.
52:17
SPEAKER_06: Oh my god, what is Huge, you know, and every band get away from this, every band played it.
52:21
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
52:21
SPEAKER_06: Step touch, step touch.
52:24
SPEAKER_06: And uh I just didn't like Adam Durritz's delivery.
52:37
SPEAKER_06: And it's just a subjective thing, you know?
52:39
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
52:39
SPEAKER_06: Um just trying to get to the chorus here.
52:43
SPEAKER_06: And they were this song I think was their first single, and it put them through the roof.
52:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
52:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they were huge after the song.
52:51
SPEAKER_06: But I don't think they really didn't do much after that.
52:54
SPEAKER_06: I was just gonna say, I don't remember anything else from that album.
52:57
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
52:58
SPEAKER_06: But I do the reason I kept um the other I I kept a different album.
53:05
SPEAKER_06: I kept it the album that I chose was uh Recovering the Satellites.
53:13
SPEAKER_06: Um because there was a song that I did like, but this one was also played incessantly when it was released.
53:25
SPEAKER_06: Um And then they they did have a they did a cover of uh Joni Mitchell's Big Yellow Taxi Pave Paradise.
53:32
SPEAKER_02: That's right, I forgot about that.
53:33
SPEAKER_06: And they they had a song called Hangin' Around from Shrek, but then they had this one.
53:40
SPEAKER_08: This one was from the Long December, and there's reason to Long December This was a big hit.
53:51
SPEAKER_03: I know, but I just I forgot about this one.
53:58
SPEAKER_08: Can't remember the last thing that just does you believe Days Go by store.
54:07
SPEAKER_06: There's a couple good songs on this album, Daylight Fading, Angels of the Silences But they seem to have only one hit per album.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: Why?
54:18
SPEAKER_03: Which is I think a lot of it has to do with his voice, because the voice is not that good.
54:25
SPEAKER_03: Well, but it's got a lot of character.
54:27
SPEAKER_06: It does have a lot of character.
54:28
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, but I mean knowing you like I know you, I can understand why.
54:36
SPEAKER_08: But look at listen.
54:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:43
SPEAKER_03: Right.
54:44
SPEAKER_03: I get I get it, man.
54:45
SPEAKER_03: Because I was never a huge Pat and Crows fan myself either, so right.
54:49
SPEAKER_03: But I think But this this was also my metal phase.
54:53
SPEAKER_06: Oh, right.
54:54
SPEAKER_03: So I wasn't really if it wasn't like Hootie or Bare Naked Ladies, I wasn't listening or toad, I wasn't listening to them.
55:02
SPEAKER_06: Right.
55:03
SPEAKER_06: So Right.
55:04
SPEAKER_06: They did have um well, I I mentioned them already.
55:09
SPEAKER_06: Uh this was this was one.
55:13
SPEAKER_06: They've had, like I said, they've had they've had a few hits.
55:16
SPEAKER_06: Um, and you wouldn't really remember them unless you heard them.
55:20
SPEAKER_06: Right.
55:20
SPEAKER_06: You're like, oh, I remember that song.
55:23
SPEAKER_06: Uh this is one of those.
55:25
SPEAKER_06: Uh this is called Round Here.
55:31
SPEAKER_09: Step out the front door like a ghost into a fog where no one's gonna be able to do it.
55:36
SPEAKER_03: Do you even remember it?
55:37
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember this.
55:40
SPEAKER_03: There's more to it than this.
55:41
SPEAKER_03: There is.
55:41
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
55:41
SPEAKER_09: In between the moon and you angels get a better view of the crumbling difference between wrong and right.
56:03
SPEAKER_06: Great lyrics.
56:05
SPEAKER_06: He's a pretty good poet, you know.
56:07
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
56:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:10
SPEAKER_03: Just his voice takes Round here getting some used to him.
56:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
56:14
SPEAKER_09: This is always stand up straight.
56:19
SPEAKER_03: I g I I guess I don't remember this one.
56:22
SPEAKER_09: Round here.
56:24
SPEAKER_06: Um something.
56:26
SPEAKER_06: Here's one you might remember because it was.
56:30
SPEAKER_06: Well, I'm not gonna do the big yellow tags because I think they did it.
56:32
SPEAKER_06: Well, that I know.
56:33
SPEAKER_06: I think they did a terrible job with that.
56:35
SPEAKER_06: Uh but this one here.
56:37
SPEAKER_06: This one I think is the one from from Shrek.
56:41
SPEAKER_06: One of one of the Shrek movies.
56:43
SPEAKER_06: They had a um song on the soundtrack, and it I it was either played at the beginning of the movie or near the end, but it was in the movie, not during the credits, which is a big thing.
56:54
SPEAKER_02: Right.
56:55
SPEAKER_06: I'm pretty sure this was in the short.
57:36
SPEAKER_06: Honestly, besides Mr.
57:37
SPEAKER_06: Jones, kind of a forgettable band.
57:40
SPEAKER_06: Kinda, yeah, I guess.
57:41
SPEAKER_06: I mean, and and if you do remember him, you remember him because of his voice.
57:45
SPEAKER_06: Right.
57:45
SPEAKER_06: I think.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: And that Mr.
57:47
SPEAKER_03: Jones song.
57:48
SPEAKER_06: Right.
57:49
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
57:50
SPEAKER_06: Anyway, I kept that album because I like a long December.
57:54
SPEAKER_06: And I like uh a couple of the other songs on it.
57:56
SPEAKER_06: I don't have the the album with Mr.
57:58
SPEAKER_06: Jones on it, which I think was called August and Everything After or something like that.
58:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was one it was a weird name.
58:04
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
58:04
SPEAKER_06: So I don't have that album specifically because it has Mr.
58:08
SPEAKER_06: Jones on it.
58:09
SPEAKER_06: Oh, well, there you go.
58:10
SPEAKER_06: Um and and and I don't mean to diss them, it's just I mean it's all subjective.
58:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:14
SPEAKER_06: You know, uh you like what you like, you don't like what you don't like.
58:17
SPEAKER_03: But the fact that you still have the CD.
58:19
SPEAKER_03: Right.
58:19
SPEAKER_03: I think it says a lot.
58:20
SPEAKER_03: I think it does.
58:21
SPEAKER_03: You know.
58:22
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because I don't dislike the band.
58:24
SPEAKER_06: Um I just can't take them.
58:26
SPEAKER_06: I can only take them in small doses.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: They're an arsenic band.
58:30
SPEAKER_03: Just take them in very small doses.
58:32
SPEAKER_03: Right.
58:32
SPEAKER_03: So arsenic band.
58:34
SPEAKER_06: I like that.
58:35
SPEAKER_06: All right, so there you go.
58:36
SPEAKER_06: That is the uh Wall of Tunes album of the week.
58:39
SPEAKER_06: A band we don't care for.
58:41
SPEAKER_06: Recovering the Satellites by Count and Crows.
58:44
SPEAKER_06: And if Shane hears this, he's gonna just like flip his lid because I think he's a big Adam Duritz fan.
58:48
SPEAKER_06: Is he?
58:48
SPEAKER_06: I think so.
58:49
SPEAKER_03: He might be, yeah, I don't know.
58:51
SPEAKER_03: Um but Shane, this one's for you, buddy.
58:55
SPEAKER_03: Enjoy your crap band.
59:00
SPEAKER_05: Actually, I have a CD here for you if you want it.
59:04
SPEAKER_03: A gift from the Wall of Tunes to you.
59:08
SPEAKER_03: Happy New Year, my friend.
59:11
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
59:12
SPEAKER_05: It is the last uh Wall of Tunes of uh 2021.
59:16
SPEAKER_05: And we ended it on a band we don't really cake.
59:18
SPEAKER_05: Jeez, we did we did band breakups.
59:20
SPEAKER_05: Band breakup.
59:21
SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tunes was a band we don't like.
59:24
SPEAKER_05: Screw 2021! Screw that.
59:27
SPEAKER_03: This podcast is a big middle finger to 2021.
59:33
SPEAKER_03: And we'll welcome 2022 with I don't know, we'll do like a whole Well, I I welcome 22 with a stern gaze and folded arms.
59:43
SPEAKER_03: That's how I greet 2022 because I'm good.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: That's a good quote.
59:47
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure what's coming.
59:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna be ready for you.
59:51
SPEAKER_03: I'm just I look I look at you 2022 with suspicion.
59:55
SPEAKER_06: This is true.
59:56
SPEAKER_06: So if people haven't opened their eyes to what's going on yet.
59:59
SPEAKER_06: I'm I mean it's it's just sheer stupidity.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:00:05
SPEAKER_03: Let's see what looks going on, man.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_03: I like that crazy.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_06: I like what you said.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_06: I like what you said.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_06: What I look at 2022 with stern I don't remember.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_06: I don't remember what's rewind it.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_03: Folded arms and a stern I think I I greet 2022 with a stern gaze and folded arms.
1:00:26
SPEAKER_03: Something like that.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: I don't remember.
1:00:27
SPEAKER_03: We'll have to go back and look at it.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_05: That's so awesome.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_05: So awesome.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_06: I love it.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I'm I'm very susp um as my kids would say, the new thing?
1:00:38
SPEAKER_06: 2022 is very sus.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_06: Sus?
1:00:41
SPEAKER_06: Sus.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_06: That's the new thing.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_06: Like if I said something that was, you know, like uh like sus and suspect.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_06: Like and suspicious.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh suspicious.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_06: Sus.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_06: Dad, that's really sus.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I know.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_06: I don't even like that.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_06: I don't even.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_06: I'm not gonna use it.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_06: Really sus, dad.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_03: You really you really sus.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_03: You're sus to the nth degree.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_03: Gag me with a spoon.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_03: You're susser.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_03: You're susser.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_03: I'm the sussiest.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's it.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh season five, episode seven in the books.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_06: Uh we'll be back.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_06: We'll be back for the first episode of of the new year uh next week.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_06: Yes.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_06: And do you have any teasers as to what we're gonna be talking about?
1:01:23
SPEAKER_03: I have no idea what we're gonna talk about.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_03: All right, cool.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_03: Sometimes I like them better than that.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_03: I was I was I I I only planned this one because I just I had this idea for the last year.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_06: I think it's a great idea.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_03: The band breakup idea for the end of the year.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_06: So I think that's a great idea.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_03: Um I'm I'm off duty.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_03: I'm not thinking anymore.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_03: All right.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_06: So I'm just gonna be like It was funny, we were having a conversation around the uh every every Sunday after church we have donuts at my in-laws.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, that's right.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_06: And I can't remember I can't remember how it came up.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_06: The podcast came up.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_06: And I don't remember how it came up.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_06: But they said something about uh Jeez, I wish I could remember the context of the of the conversation because um it came up that I said, yeah, uh Doug doesn't do anything.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_06: I do I do everything.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_06: Uh it's m it's about time for him to do something.
1:02:17
SPEAKER_06: I think that it was something like maybe it was t I was talking about how you came up with ideas, the ideas for the show or something like that.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_06: And uh I said, Yeah, it's about time he did something.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_06: And we were joking, of course.
1:02:28
SPEAKER_06: And I said, Well, hold on, hold on.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_06: And I said I'm very sus.
1:02:38
SPEAKER_01: And I said, I said, you know, when we do video, I edit the video, I edit the podcast, I put it all together, I put it on the website, and Doug doesn't do anything.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_05: He just shows up and what I said, and he just shows up.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_05: And everybody said, and he's really funny.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_05: I said, Yes, he shows up, and that's why people listen.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_01: So I what you're saying is what you're saying is I should be paying Doug.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_03: No, don't I do not deserve any sort of monetary gains from this from this thing, because like you said, man, you do it all, man.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_03: And I I literally this what you said is absolutely true.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you edit everything, you record everything, we do it in the in the fun dungeon here at your house, and I just show up and like, you know, I'm just like, oh, what was that movie?
1:03:33
SPEAKER_06: You are the reason people listen, though.
1:03:35
SPEAKER_03: I don't think so.
1:03:36
SPEAKER_03: I do think that's true.
1:03:37
SPEAKER_06: And I was talking to Morton yesterday at KmH Music, one of our sponsors, by the way.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_06: And uh he was talking about how uh to this day he you know Oh, he bought a drum set.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_06: Did he tell you this?
1:03:49
SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, the vintage drumset.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_06: The vintage drum set, which was awesome.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_06: And he said that he was talking to the guy, uh the the couple or whatever that he bought it from, and he said, uh, uh, do you play in a band?
1:04:00
SPEAKER_06: And he said, Yeah, I do.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_06: We actually we actually play we played across.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_06: And he said, uh, what band?
1:04:05
SPEAKER_06: Star City Syndicate.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_06: And they went, Oh, you're in the band with the guy that plays tambourine.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_04: He told me about that last week.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_04: I said, Um, you know, wherever we go, it's always Doug, Doug, Doug.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Star City Syndicate.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: They think of Doug.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: O'Brien and Doug, it's Doug.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_04: Not that I'm bitter.
1:04:27
SPEAKER_03: No, I think it's just because it's a uh one-syllable word.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, probably.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_03: So it's easy to it's easy to remember.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_05: Doug.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, let's go with that.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_03: That's what that's what I'm going with, you know.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_03: Now, my favorite Morton story is when his dad was like, go Doug!
1:04:39
SPEAKER_05: His own dad.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_05: I'm like, wow.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_05: My favorite drummer.
1:04:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, his favorite drummer, Doug.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_05: Let's let's end this puppy.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_05: Let's put it at this.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_05: We'll uh we'll start the new year.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_05: Happy New Year.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_05: Happy New Year, everybody.
1:04:55
SPEAKER_03: Be safe and uh The song that nobody knows the words to.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_03: What do you mean we just sang them?
1:05:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_03: There was no words.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_01: All right, everybody.
1:05:20
SPEAKER_01: Have a great one and uh be safe.
1:05:21
SPEAKER_03: Happy New Year.
1:05:22
SPEAKER_03: See you in 2022.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_03: And remember, greet the new year with a stern gaze and folded arms.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_03: And you'll be okay.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_03: Saith Doug.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_03: Bye, everybody! Chapter 3, verse 2.
1:05:36
SPEAKER_05: I should say.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_05: I'm O'Brien.
1:05:38
unknown: I'm the other guy.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_06: Bye, everybody! One syllable.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_06: I'm trying to end it like I would normally end it.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_06: Bye, everybody! That's annoying.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_06: I might delete a couple of those.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_10: I might just delete the whole podcast.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_04: Let's start over.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_10: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_10: I'm O'Brien, and he's Doug! No.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_10: Okay, I'm Doug.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_10: All right, bye, everybody.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_10: Bye.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_10: Goodbye.
1:06:11
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1:06:29
SPEAKER_09: Seriously, I swear to God, I'm really uncomfortable now.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_09: It's time you should go.