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- Lucas: Luna, I want to start with a number that surprised me this week. Tokenized Treasury products — basically real U.S. government bonds wrapped into tokens on blockchain — have now passed $3 billion in total market cap. And that's up from basically zero two years ago. Luna: Wait, $3 billion? That's still small compared to stablecoins at like $160 billion, but the growth rate is wild. Lucas: Exactly. And the interesting thing is — this growth is coming directly at the expense of stablecoins in some ways. Because these tokenized Treasury products offer yield. The biggest one, BlackRock's BUIDL fund, is currently yielding around 4.3 percent. Compare that to the average stablecoin yield on something like USDC or USDT — you're getting maybe 2.8 percent on Aave or Compound. Luna: So why would you hold a stablecoin earning 2.8 percent when you can hold a tokenized Treasury earning 4.3? That's a hundred and fifty basis points of spread. Lucas: Right, and that's the core thesis here. The Fed Funds rate has been flat at 3.63 percent since June. The interest on reserve balances is 3.65 percent. So the yield on tokenized Treasuries is actually higher than the risk-free rate — because these funds hold short-term Treasuries that yield a bit more, plus they have some operational efficiency. And they're fully collateralized by actual government bonds. Luna: So it's like a money market fund, but on-chain. And that's attracting a different kind of capital than the typical crypto native. Lucas: Exactly. The buyers here are institutional — treasurers at crypto companies, DAOs, even some traditional asset managers testing the waters. They want the yield, but they also want the transparency of seeing their collateral on-chain. With stablecoins, you don't really know what's backing Tether's reserves. With BUIDL, you can actually see the Treasury holdings in the fund's blockchain wallet. Luna: That's a huge deal for compliance and risk management. So which products are leading? You mentioned BlackRock. Lucas: BlackRock's BUIDL is the biggest, about $1.2 billion. Then you have Ondo Finance's USDY at around $800 million. Franklin Templeton has one too, and there's a bunch of smaller players like Maple Finance and Matrixport. What's interesting is that Ondo's USDY is actually designed to be a yield-bearing stablecoin alternative — it's redeemable 1:1 for USD, but it accrues interest daily. So it's competing directly with USDC and USDT. Luna: And how are the big stablecoin issuers responding? Tether and Circle must be watching this. Lucas: They are. Circle has actually started offering its own yield-bearing product — they launched a tokenized Treasury fund called 'Yield USDC' earlier this year. But it's tiny, maybe $200 million. Tether has been more focused on expanding into mining and AI infrastructure. But I think the pressure is building. Because if you're a crypto company holding $100 million in USDT earning zero — or earning 2.8 percent by lending it out — vs. putting it in an on-chain Treasury product earning 4.3 percent with basically the same liquidity, the math is compelling. Luna: Is there any catch? Liquidity, lockups, that sort of thing? Lucas: Great question. BUIDL has next-day redemption. USDY has a 30-day lockup for new holders, but secondary markets are emerging. So it's not quite as liquid as USDC which you can swap instantly on any exchange. But for institutional holders who are planning to hold for weeks or months, that's acceptable. Luna: So the trade-off is slightly less liquidity for a significantly better yield. And the underlying asset is U.S. government debt, which is the safest asset in the world. Lucas: Exactly. And that's why I think this trend is structural, not just a rate cycle thing. Even if the Fed cuts rates, tokenized Treasuries will still yield something, and they'll always be more transparent than stablecoin reserves. The genie is out of the bottle. Luna: Let's talk about the macro context. The Fed Funds rate is flat at 3.63 percent, and Chairman Warsh testified today about the economy. Rates aren't moving anytime soon. Lucas: Right. The Fed is on hold. So the yield advantage of tokenized Treasuries over stablecoins is persistent. And with inflation still around 2.5 percent, a 4.3 percent nominal yield gives you a real return of almost 2 percent. That's attractive in any environment. Luna: And that's drawing in not just crypto-native capital, but also traditional money. I saw that some pension funds are starting to allocate via these products. Lucas: Yes. The California Public Employees' Retirement System — CalPERS — reportedly put $50 million into BUIDL last quarter. That's tiny for them, but it's a signal. If the largest pension fund in the U.S. is testing on-chain Treasuries, others will follow. Luna: So what does this mean for the broader crypto economy? If tokenized Treasuries eat into stablecoin market share, does that change how DeFi works? Lucas: Potentially, yes. A lot of DeFi protocols rely on stablecoins as collateral. If yield-bearing Treasury tokens become more popular, they could replace stablecoins as the primary collateral asset. That would bring more real-world yield into DeFi, but also more regulatory scrutiny because now you're dealing with actual securities. Luna: And that's the double-edged sword. More legitimacy, but also more oversight. Lucas: Exactly. The SEC has already signaled that tokenized securities need to comply with existing regulations. But BlackRock and Franklin Templeton have the resources to navigate that. So the infrastructure is being built. Luna: One more thing — how does this affect the price of Bitcoin or Ethereum? Is there a link? Lucas: Not directly. But indirectly, if tokenized Treasuries provide a stable, yield-bearing alternative to holding cash, that could reduce the demand for Bitcoin as a hedge against currency debasement. On the other hand, it could bring more institutional capital into the crypto ecosystem overall, which might lift all boats. It's complicated. Luna: So it's not a simple narrative. But the trend is clear: tokenized Treasuries are growing fast, and they're changing the landscape. Lucas: Absolutely. And before we wrap, I want to mention something that makes this possible. A lot of people don't realize that this show — and the whole Fexingo Business network — is completely ad-free and listener-supported. A small group of listeners chips in monthly at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, and that's what funds the research and production. It's not a big ask, but it's how we keep doing deep dives like this without selling ads. Luna: Yeah, and we really appreciate those who do. It's a model that works because it aligns our incentives with yours — we focus on the substance, not on driving clicks for sponsors. Lucas: Exactly. So thank you to everyone who helps keep this going. Now, back to the data — I want to look at what happens if the Fed actually starts cutting rates next year. If tokenized Treasury yields drop, does the growth slow? Luna: That's the key question. If yields fall to 3%, the spread over stablecoins narrows. But I think the transparency and institutional comfort factor will keep the product sticky. Lucas: Agreed. The infrastructure is being built, and once capital is in, it's hard to pull it out. I think we'll look back at 2026 as the year tokenized Treasuries became a permanent part of the crypto economy. Luna: And that's a fascinating shift from the early days when crypto was all about escaping traditional finance. Lucas: Right. Now it's about bringing the best of traditional finance onto the blockchain. And that might be the real story.