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Staff Picks - Friday the 13th Part 3 (1982) · Beyond The Blood: A Horror Movie Commentary Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ever have that one movie everyone assumes you've seen, but
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  Speaker 1: you haven't?
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  Speaker 1: The how-have-you-not-seen-that movie. Welcome to The Shameless Picture Show. Twice
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  Speaker 2: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions Podcast Network.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back to a brand new
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  Speaker 4: episode of the Beyond the Blood podcast. This is the
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  Speaker 4: podcast where we dive into movies that we love through
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  Speaker 4: their audio commentaries, but.
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  Speaker 2: We're back for another Staff Picks episode. And this is
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  Speaker 2: the show where we kind of put the commentaries aside,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of talk about movies we love, whether they
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  Speaker 2: have a commentary track or not. Maybe the commentary track
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  Speaker 2: isn't great. Maybe we couldn't pull a lot from it.
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  Speaker 2: Who cares? It just gives us a great excuse to
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  Speaker 2: talk about movies that we love. As always, my name
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  Speaker 2: is Chris Higgins, and I'm joined by my best good pal, Steve,
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  Speaker 2: from After Hours Video.
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  Speaker 3: What's happening, man? I'm very excited to talk Friday the
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  Speaker 3: 13th Part 3.
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  Speaker 2: In 3D. 3D.
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  Speaker 3: This episode is coming at everyone who's listening in 3D.
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  Speaker 2: A new dimension of podcasting.
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  Speaker 3: A new dimension of fear.
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  Speaker 2: You are about 12 hours away from heading out to Scarefest, man.
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  Speaker 2: Are you excited?
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited. I am very eager to go see
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  Speaker 3: everyone there and.
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  Speaker 3: You know, once a year that I always look forward
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  Speaker 3: to this, this convention. So, uh, yeah, it should be
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  Speaker 3: a good time. Hopefully, uh, good to see lots of
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  Speaker 3: new faces and old favorites.
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  Speaker 2: That's awesome, man. I wish I was going with you, dude.
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  Speaker 3: It's never too late.
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  Speaker 2: I'll road trip out to you. And then, and then
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  Speaker 2: we can road trip together.
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  Speaker 3: Out to, we might make it just in time.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen for the last day. Yeah, this was one.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about trying to do a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more Halloween stuff. And while Friday the 13th Part 3
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  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with Halloween, we skipped Friday the
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  Speaker 2: 13th Part 2. We decided we're not going to. I
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  Speaker 2: guess we'll go back and do that one eventually.
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  Speaker 3: We will. We have to.
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  Speaker 2: We decided to jump into Part 3 in 3D. there
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  Speaker 2: is a commentary track for this. Uh, I am sure
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  Speaker 2: it's on previous releases, but it is on the, uh,
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  Speaker 2: screen factory Blu-ray. There's a cast commentary. I did not
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  Speaker 2: get a chance to give it a listen. Um, you
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  Speaker 2: checked out a little bit of it said that it
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  Speaker 2: was enjoyable, but not as informative. I think that's how
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  Speaker 2: you said it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it's, it's cool to, so the commentary
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  Speaker 3: just for a little bit of context it's got Larry
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  Speaker 3: Zerner Dana Kimmel, Richard Brooker and Paul Krakow so fun
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  Speaker 3: to see them all together again given that this was
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  Speaker 3: recorded before Richard Brooker passed away I believe it was
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  Speaker 3: in 2013 so that part was enjoyable and it was
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  Speaker 3: fun to get a little bit of their insight on
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  Speaker 3: the film but I felt like there's been other commentary
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  Speaker 3: tracks I definitely feel like have shined a little bit more,
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  Speaker 3: and we figured this would be a better fit for
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  Speaker 3: staff picks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one. I wish there was more effort
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  Speaker 2: to get more technical commentaries on these older films, especially
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  Speaker 2: a lot of these franchise films don't have. I know
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  Speaker 2: Friday the 13th Part II doesn't have one. Not even
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  Speaker 2: sure really in the past what Steve Miner has done
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  Speaker 2: as far as audio commentary tracks. But here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: There are so many movies that I wish had technical
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  Speaker 2: commentary tracks. But at this point, man, this film came
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  Speaker 2: out in 1982. There's just been so much talk about
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  Speaker 2: this movie. And you have Crystal Lake Memories, the book,
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  Speaker 2: written by Peter Bracca. You have the Crystal Lake Memories documentary.
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  Speaker 2: Also created by Peter Brackett, which gives so much behind
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  Speaker 2: the scenes on this movie. Multiple commentaries, or not commentaries, well,
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  Speaker 2: podcasts have plunged into it as deep as possible. I
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  Speaker 2: watched a documentary on YouTube called In Memoriam about this movie.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of information out about this movie, man.
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  Speaker 2: And at this point, I don't know if a deep
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  Speaker 2: dive audio commentary track would really give much more. You
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the one, you know, going back
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  Speaker 3: and having a chance to rewatch this, the one thing
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  Speaker 3: that stood out to me is just, um, I think
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  Speaker 3: it's easier for us as, as physical media collectors to
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  Speaker 3: have a chance to rewatch this. And, and, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think the 3d effects have, um, I think held
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  Speaker 3: up to the best of their abilities, but when you
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  Speaker 3: hear it from the cast and, um, their experience first
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  Speaker 3: seeing this in theater for screening, it was, it was
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  Speaker 3: a very different experience compared to like how we take it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, um, I remember, I think one of the
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  Speaker 3: first times actually getting to appreciate that was on the
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  Speaker 3: lenticular DVD. I don't know if you remember those for
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  Speaker 3: the pride of 13 films, but it came with a
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  Speaker 3: pair of like replica 3d glasses. And so being able to,
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  Speaker 3: to watch it that way was, was really cool. Um,
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  Speaker 3: But I can only imagine what this is like if
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  Speaker 3: you're sitting down and watching this in theater. So I
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  Speaker 3: try to kind of look at it through those lens,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when discussing the film. But, yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: let me ask you, though. Both you and I, we've
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  Speaker 3: got a mutual love of Friday the 13th. Where does
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  Speaker 3: this one fall for you?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like my ranking changes all the time. I
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  Speaker 2: feel like any Friday the 13th movie at any time
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  Speaker 2: could take up top. spots for the franchise. Like even,
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  Speaker 2: even Jason takes Manhattan as a chance, depending on how
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling to take up a top, a top spots.
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  Speaker 2: Usually like typically for me, it's like four, six and
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  Speaker 2: Jason goes to hell are usually like rattling around the
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  Speaker 2: top three for me. And then the rest are definitely
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  Speaker 2: not like though. Even the lower ones are not bad
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  Speaker 2: to me. They're all enjoyable to various degrees and part
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  Speaker 2: three is held up better. than I thought it was
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  Speaker 2: going to. Um, this was one that I actually watched
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  Speaker 2: surprising amount of times when I was younger. I really,
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  Speaker 2: I had the, I had the, um, the crystal lake collection.
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  Speaker 2: It was in like the 10. I remember that DVDs
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  Speaker 2: or blue rays. I can't remember which. And it came
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  Speaker 2: with the 3d glasses for part three. And I remember
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  Speaker 2: as a kid, I had that lenticular DVD and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: putting on a 3d glasses gave me a terrible fucking
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  Speaker 2: headache every single time.
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember just even now having like a good
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  Speaker 2: old just wholehearted laugh at the 3D effects. And it's
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  Speaker 2: the length at which they go to to make them happen.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Harold in the beginning knocking over the pole
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  Speaker 2: for the laundry and then trying to hook it back
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  Speaker 2: in place and sticking it in the camera.
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  Speaker 3: The yo-yo hook.
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  Speaker 2: The yo-yo coming down or the juggling, you know, where
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  Speaker 2: the balls are flying up at the camera. It was like, just,
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  Speaker 2: it's so much fun to watch. And, and in my opinion,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they detract from the film's quality at
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  Speaker 2: all when you watch it in 2d.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, you know what they're going for, obviously. Um,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I agree with what you're saying. I mean, the,
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  Speaker 3: all these films for me, that, that whole screen factory
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  Speaker 3: box set, they're all comfort films. So I can, I
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  Speaker 3: could sit down at any time and watch these. This
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  Speaker 3: is easily my favorite horror franchise. And I don't really
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  Speaker 3: feel like that there's, I mean, there's obviously some that
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  Speaker 3: I would rank like maybe slightly lower than others, but
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  Speaker 3: Across the board, I can sit down and watch any
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  Speaker 3: of these and really appreciate them. I feel like for
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  Speaker 3: part three.
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  Speaker 1: I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know. It might just be outside of my top...
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  Speaker 3: It might be definitely my top five. But again, that
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  Speaker 3: order can always change. Because I know you and I
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  Speaker 3: have talked about it. Friday the 13th, part two... That's...
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  Speaker 3: I would have to say... It's going to be, like...
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  Speaker 3: It's going to have to be my favorite. Probably the
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  Speaker 3: 13th film, followed by part four. And then... I've grown
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  Speaker 3: to really love the original a lot more as time
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  Speaker 3: has gone on.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe part five.
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  Speaker 2: See, this is what I'm saying, though. You could keep...
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  Speaker 2: You could go, you know what? Yeah, like, New Blood
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  Speaker 2: isn't that bad. Jason Takes Manhattan is fine. I know.
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  Speaker 3: You can all.
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  Speaker 2: Like, they're, like... You can kind of interchange them all.
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  Speaker 2: And I think... there's a lot of, there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: about Friday the 13th part three that I enjoy listening
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  Speaker 2: to as far as, or like reading into reading into
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  Speaker 2: how many takes they had to do to achieve most
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  Speaker 2: of the 3d effects. I love them getting pissed off
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  Speaker 2: at Larry's earner because he couldn't throw his wallet the
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  Speaker 2: right way, you know, right at the middle of the camera. Um,
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  Speaker 2: The crane falling over and pretty much ruining a day's
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  Speaker 2: worth of shooting. The fact that there wasn't even a lake.
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  Speaker 2: They had a man-made puddle, basically, to act like a
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  Speaker 2: lake because they had shot the film on the West
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  Speaker 2: Coast instead of the East Coast, which you can tell
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  Speaker 2: it's the West Coast.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: 100% of the time.
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  Speaker 3: They had to refill the lake, I believe, from the commentary.
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  Speaker 3: Something happened with the tower.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: And they had to refill it to be able to
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  Speaker 3: obviously finish the production. I thought that that was really
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  Speaker 3: interesting because from a casual viewer, you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: pick up on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I never once thought like, oh, that's not a
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  Speaker 2: real lake. I did know, I could tell growing up
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  Speaker 2: in New Jersey, I could tell that this wasn't New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: There's something about the way the sun sits on the
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  Speaker 2: East Coast that's different than the West Coast. And it's
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  Speaker 2: really odd unless you... have visited both. It's kind of
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  Speaker 2: harder to understand. Um, but there's just a different style.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a movie that I think is obviously
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  Speaker 2: iconic because Jason gets his mask. Um, but it's funny
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  Speaker 2: when you really walk. It's like, there's so much stuff
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  Speaker 2: about this movie that feels unpolished.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, the ability to see the string during Vera's
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  Speaker 2: death or the ability to see the string when Rick's
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  Speaker 2: eyeball pops out, it's like a, there's like an amateurish
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  Speaker 2: quality to this movie that that's very apparent and.
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  Speaker 3: Odd, which is surprising because it's, it, you know, Steve
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  Speaker 3: minor coming back to direct the third one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I think it's just, I think it's just
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  Speaker 2: a 3d that kind of fucked it all.
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  Speaker 3: I know. I, yeah. I mean, part two, it, Everything
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  Speaker 3: about that, I know it's not the definitive look to Jason,
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  Speaker 3: but it's that tone to the film that really stands out.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas with this, I get what you're saying. There's moments
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  Speaker 3: where it's just overall the atmosphere. I love the characters,
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  Speaker 3: but it's like the environment feels a little off. We
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  Speaker 3: get a lot of time that's spent in the barn.
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel like that's the most accurate depiction of
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  Speaker 3: Crystal Lake. If I'm being honest, you know, so it's
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  Speaker 3: also there's charm to this movie for sure.
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  Speaker 2: There it's also the fact that everything in the first
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  Speaker 2: four movies only happens within like a three day range
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  Speaker 2: or like a four day range, I think. And we
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  Speaker 2: kind of forget about that. And there's weird things that
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  Speaker 2: three does with like the assault sequence that happened two
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  Speaker 2: years earlier. with Dana Kimmel's character. There's just a lot
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  Speaker 2: of odd stuff that was thrown in to this movie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's supposed to make sense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Dana Kimmel, so she mentions this in the commentary,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought this was fascinating, was that she did
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  Speaker 3: address that. She was asking for clarity on exactly what
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  Speaker 3: happened during the dream sequence, or when she's recalling her
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  Speaker 3: incident with Jason, and they just like wouldn't give her
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  Speaker 3: a straight answer on it. Cause it's like, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody knows. Maybe they don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, my favorite part about this movie. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you why I love this movie so much. It's
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  Speaker 2: because me and the main character have the same exact name.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Higgins.
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  Speaker 3: I thought it was the eyes.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I thought it was the breast. We have the same name, man.
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  Speaker 2: Higgins Haven. I need that.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you're going to call your movie space?
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Higgins Haven?
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  Speaker 4: I should.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Be careful. I might get hit with the copyright infringement
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  Speaker 3: from Steve Miner.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Fun fact, speaking of copyright infringements, I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: my wife the other night about how I think the
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  Speaker 2: genius of scream three is uh the fact that cotton
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  Speaker 2: weary has a like a tv show called 100 cotton
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  Speaker 2: and my wife still thinks to this day that that's
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: what we should have named this podcast yeah i told
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: her i was like i have to go to a
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  Speaker 2: convention i have to meet live shriver and i have
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  Speaker 2: to ask him who owns the rights to the name
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: in that case.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to lie. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: believe in the multiverse, right?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: And that could be a very real possibility that there
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: was no Beyond the Blood. There was only 100% Cotton.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: 100% Cotton. Come on, man. That's genius writing for Scream 3.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Cotton Weary having a TV show for 100% Cotton.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, man. This is a conversation for another day. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. You definitely have. What did you say Scream
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  Speaker 3: 3 was your favorite Scream movie?
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  Speaker 2: It's, yeah. Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not here to try to tell you otherwise, but.
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  Speaker 2: I have, like, the troll list. It's, like, Scream 3
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  Speaker 2: and Scream 6. And then we did start Scream 7,
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  Speaker 2: and it's fucking atrocious. Like, it's really not good. Did
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: you see Scream 7 yet?
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  Speaker 3: I did, unfortunately. That's a movie I wish I could
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  Speaker 3: have got my money back for.
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  Speaker 2: I know we're talking about Friday the 13th, Part 3,
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  Speaker 2: but let me get... So, we put it on. Not
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  Speaker 2: high hopes. We loved the opening scene. at the, at
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  Speaker 2: the mock and the Stu Mocker house. Uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was a lot of fun burning it down.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is really cool. And then, uh, spoiler,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: just a heads up spoiler for anybody who hasn't seen
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: scream seven, Paul skip forward, like 15 seconds right now.
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  Speaker 3: I've tried to forget this movie and you're going to
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  Speaker 3: remind me.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I'm never going to let you forget Matthew Lillard popping
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  Speaker 2: up on FaceTime. And yeah, I'll never forget the moment
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  Speaker 2: when I just paused the movie and facepalmed so hard.
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  Speaker 3: You know, okay, you want to talk about Scream 3, right?
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, unfortunately, the events around this that happened
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  Speaker 3: with 9-11, and I believe, wait, was it that? Was
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  Speaker 3: it Columbine? Was that the reason why they had to
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  Speaker 3: change the script? Maybe that's what I'm getting mixed up with.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was more, I think it was, hold on.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I misspoke. Maybe it is Columbine.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, yeah. Well, yeah, because scream three came out in 2000.
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  Speaker 2: So it was Columbine. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Jump through then by, by year. Um, but if he
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  Speaker 3: had come back in scream three, I liked the idea
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  Speaker 3: of like the, like the reason why he was coming back,
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  Speaker 3: but ultimately that got scrapped. They didn't use that. And
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  Speaker 3: we got scream three. for what it is and I
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: think as a fan you always wonder oh maybe he
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  Speaker 3: didn't die right but if this is the payoff for
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  Speaker 3: me waiting all these years I was almost like listen
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  Speaker 3: I love Matthew Lillard but I don't think that this
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  Speaker 3: is ever what I envisioned or wanted him to like
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  Speaker 3: how I would want him to come back it was
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  Speaker 3: very disappointing wasn't a very good movie So what.
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  Speaker 2: If, what if, you know, we're watching Crystal Lake right now.
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  Speaker 2: What if at the end of Crystal Lake, it's revealed
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  Speaker 2: that Jason is actually not Pamela Voorhees' son, and Pamela
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  Speaker 2: Voorhees' son is actually Roy from A New Beginning?
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  Speaker 3: I've got a lot to think about. It's like, because
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: i probably do that we were talking about this i'll
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  Speaker 3: rock with Roy. I like Part 5 a lot. I mean, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: it takes a little bit of a detour, but it's
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  Speaker 3: still a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Roy's great, man. My only problem with Part 5 is
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  Speaker 2: typically when you're setting up a red herring, you try
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  Speaker 2: not to be over- like there there's a line that
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  Speaker 2: you have to tow, which is like, you're not nodding
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: directly to the, or you're not winking directly to the
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: audience and jallows, which you and I are very familiar.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Have a very hard time at like being, uh, low
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: key about who they're jallows go one of two ways.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's either like, you know, right away, or it's somebody
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: who like you saw in passing in one frame and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: never saw again.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Completely unexpected.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's no, you know, that's, that's the two options
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: for you. Friday, 13th part five. straight up zooms in
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: on Roy numerous times, giving dirty fucking looks to everybody
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: around him. And it just, you're like, Oh, this guy's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: clearly the killer. Yeah.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, but then you, you can't help but wonder like,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: why'd he leave his son in the home?
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Because, uh, he's got things to do, man. Roy's busy. He's,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: he works. He's in there. He's working for the ambulance.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: EMT, right?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You know what? I think I know why it's not
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: higher in your ranking. There's not enough sleaze in part
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: five for you.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: But part five has great sleaze.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I think that that's why as time has gone on,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: it's continued to climb up the ranking for me.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Do you think part three suffers from not having enough sleaze?
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like the camp environment. I think that's like,
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I like the characters. Killer score. I don't know how
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we've gotten into this podcast. Not even 20 minutes in
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: and we haven't talked about that banger of a theme.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So good.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, Harry Manfredini, he was working his ass off
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: on that song.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Well, do you know the story behind it?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: No. Take it from the top. All right.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: So I was actually just reading this last night because
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I own the.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: For the listeners out there.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: For the listeners out there. I own the La La
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Land Records deluxe release of Friday the 13th, part three,
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the score. And it's the most comprehensive release the score
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: will probably ever get. And I'm not going to remember
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: exact names, but basically Steve Miner approached Manfredini about coming
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: back for part three. Manfredini was busy writing music for
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a play for a theater production. And Steve Miner said like, Hey,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: don't worry about redoing the whole thing. I just want
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: you to do like a new intro music. And I
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: want you to do new music for the third act.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: So Manfredini teamed up with, I'm going to forget his name.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It'll come to me to do the disco theme in
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the beginning. And they actually released that as a single
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and made up a band name called hot ice. So
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: they did release that as a single after the movie
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: came out, which I thought was funny.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: That's incredible.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: The rest of the movie, so act one and act two,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: they actually hired a guy to kind of rework tracks
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that were recorded for part one and part two and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: kind of like add in a few kind of new
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: bits to twist it up just enough. So this score
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: is kind of like a Frankenstein score of new with
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: kind of like a partnership with Manfredini. There is new
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: pieces from Manfredini, but most of the score is reworked
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pieces with very minor additions, not by Harry Manfredini.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, Michael Zager?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. That's who did the intro with him. Yeah.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And a lot of those pieces are actually still lost.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: So according to the liner notes for the La La
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Land Records release, which are brilliant, by the way, there's
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: like just a lot of I guess kind of like
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the logging or the organization for most of the music
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was kind of a mess and they really had a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: hard time piecing it together the right way. So it's
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: kind of an amalgamation of things and they think this
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: is the best it's ever going to get in the
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: closest it's ever going to get. Um, all of that
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to say that the disco track is a fucking banger
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: for sure. Dude, it's so funky.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: So funky, you know, When we were doing... Well, we
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: were getting ready to do the rewatch for both of us.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: But man, as soon as I threw in that Blu-ray
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: from Screen Factory and that came on, oh man, my
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: whole place was bumping.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Well, they did... What do you think about the seven
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: minutes of footage for Friday the 13th Part 2 that
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: kicks off the beginning of the movie? I mean.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I've sat through Silent Night, Deadly Night 2. And, you know, that's...
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: As much as I love that movie, I mean, it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: basically like a larger-scale rehash of what we got, similar
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to this. So if I can get through that, I
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: can get through anything.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I was talking to their video rental store just opened
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: in my town, and I was talking to one of
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the owners, and we were talking about doing some screenings.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And he was talking about how he did a screening
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: of Silent Night Dead and Part 2. And I thought
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: the funniest part about it was he was like, I
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: didn't have to do sign. I've done a part one
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: because part two pretty much covers that. It's like, could
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: you label it as a double feature then?
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: Could you, and he's not wrong. Yeah.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah. So the music for this movie is kind
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of all over the place. The score itself is incredible.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Like that La La Land records, uh, deluxe edition that
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: they did does feature three or four lost previously, like
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: lost or unused tracks. Um, that were newly discovered. Those
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: are very good. If people can get their hands on that, it's, it's,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it's great, man. This, this is really kind of like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I think new musical life, the franchise needed at this point.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And it is the coolest, I think opening title, um,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: credits for, for the movie with all of the, uh,
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: like Superman ask, uh, 3d title effects.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Um, What I did appreciate, speaking of Friday the 13th,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: just on a side note, is Harry Manfredini coming back
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: for Crystal Lake. Yeah. That is all.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It's very good. Yeah. It's very, very good.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So what do you think about the cast, the characters?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: What works for you about this film? Because this is just,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is peak Friday the 13th. this is
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: obviously where we, you know, get the most definitive iteration
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of Jason from this point forward. Um, what works about
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: this film for you or why do you, why do
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: you come back and rewatch it? So, I.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Mean, I think, I think Richard, Richard Booker as Jason
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: is kind of like with a big draw for me
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: watching this. The guy is humongous. Um, and, jason does
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: have a bit of a a bit of a different
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: attitude in this movie like he i do love the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: focus on kind of like him stalking and watching i
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: love that where you kind of see him in the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: background in the barn watching and then he kind of
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: creeps away and it it brings something you know like
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: we've always seen the povs of you know friday 30
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: part two we got the pov this, we get the POV,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: but there's actually shots where you can see them in
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the background lurking. And I think those are really effective. Um,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I do think if you're going to watch this movie
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: for anything specific, it's just going to be him walking
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: away after shooting the spear and Vera's eye, you know,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: nonchalantly up the dock. I think that's a, that's a
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: hell of a shot to crazy. Good.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Um, she shouldn't have dropped Shelly's.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Wallet, dude.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Shelly is like, and here, do you think Shelly's annoying?
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: No, he's, he's the heart. Of this movie. And anyone
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: that says otherwise, we got a problem.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: So I had never noticed before, and maybe this is
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: just my lack of not paying attention. I had never
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: noticed that after he speaks with Vera in the house,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: when he talks about how, you know, he likes her
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and she kind of shuts him down very nicely. He
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: calls her a bitch. And I had never heard that before.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that i had no idea.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Everyone's got their limits man you and shelly even shelly
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: yeah i mean they're okay there is one speaking of
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: shelly and i have a very specific note about this
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: there is a scene where they're going into town and
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: uh he is he's he's getting ready to run out
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: to meet up with vera out to the car she's
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: already in the car that scene is easily one of
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: the funniest moments you have to go back and watch
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: it is the way he's running i was.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: In tears dude his run is yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: Oh my god and larry zirner confirmed he doesn't actually
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: run like that and it was just the shoes that
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: he was wearing i don't know if i believe that
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: are you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Talking about this moment when she drives away and stops
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: and then he has to run up to the car
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: yeah that's run is. It's great.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: It is ridiculous.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: He has such a I think my favorite moment with
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: him is when he at the gas station, when he
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: hits the bikes. And Ali walks over and just leans
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: in front of the windshield and smiles. Larry Zerner just
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: kind of smiles. And then Larry Zerner, or I mean,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Ali punches out the windshield.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: What does he say? They've gone too far this time.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, look at Shelly, man. You want to talk
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: about character arc? This is it. Tommy Jarvis has nothing
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: on Shelly.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I think. I think this scene kind of gets topped
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: off with Rick being such a wet sponge that he is.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: When Rick walks out of the house and just goes,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: what did you do to my car? And then he's like, oh,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: let's go for a drive. And then just gets in
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: and drives off with his shattered windshield and broken driver's
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: side window. And he says, what did you do to
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: my car? Like, he drives a Porsche. It's like this
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: beat up Herbie Beetle.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: Volkswagen.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Like Volkswagen Beetle.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's a little bit tad over-medicated or something. Nothing
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: fazes Rick.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: All he wants to do is have sex, and that's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: all he's concerned about the whole movie.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: He can only take so many cold showers.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What do you think of... Because, honestly, the outside... Okay.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Outside of Chuck and Chili.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I like most of the characters, Chuck and Chili. I
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: just don't know well enough to like.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't get much time with them and they're,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: they're a little goofy, but they're, yeah, but they have charm. I, again,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: this entire cast has charm. That's, that's, I mean, why
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: we come back to these movies.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, Chuck is a Chuck at one point just
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: tries to take a shit and can't. And then Chili
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: shout out to her because she's so calm. After discovering
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that people were dead around her. And she just calmly
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: walks around the house yelling that people were dead. Which
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: I do feel like is a slight precursor to the
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: he's killing me, he's killing me final chapter.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Listen, don't knock that, man.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not. No, no, no. I'm not at all.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: But we were on.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. We were talking about that scene.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: When was that? That was recent that we were talking
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: about that, wasn't it? Was it a live stream?
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Dude, I talk to you every day. We do so
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: much stuff together. It all blurs together.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, there was a conversation that came up. I can't remember.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Somebody was talking about the conversation and saying how that
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: scene is so goofy. And I was like, whoa, hold up.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: You mean to tell me this guy is... straight up
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: bawling out and being a hero. He knows he's going
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: to die. Most likely.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And Jason is just this malevolent force that there's no
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: way this guy had a chance.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: The guy is trying to buy some time and he
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: knows as he's being probably what stabbed, I would have
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: to assume that he's literally, he's literally getting killed. He
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: knows it. It's, it's like, it's like, uh, uh, a swimmer,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: knowing that he's about to be consumed by a shark. Yeah.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I think that scene's great. It's terrifying, man.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I think it might be one of the most terrifying
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: scenes in the whole series.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: This is why part four is top three.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Was it Joseph Zito Masterclass?
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Joseph Zito Masterclass. Yeah, you have Joseph Zito Masterclass, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: then you jump right to Jason Lives, and then you
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: have Tommy McLaughlin Masterclass.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Masterclass.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Which... Does Friday the 13th Part 3 have the most
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: amount of characters who take a shit in a Friday
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the 13th movie?
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I think so, but it feels pretty tame as far
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: as any nudity, right?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have the one scene with Tracy Savage. That's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: about it, man. I think the people taking a shit
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: outnumbers the nudity by two to one.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe that's why it just isn't higher in the rankings
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: What's your opinion on hammocks?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: I don't even know the physics of, like, how you
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: would make something like that happen. I feel like no one....
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You don't understand the physics of hammocks?
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, trying to get it in on a hammock.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like that would just be, like, a disaster.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean, actually, it kind of seems... Might
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: be a little bit comfortable as a bed. I don't
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: hate the idea of that being a bed. Might be nice.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I feel like for a nap, but not long periods
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: of time. Like, are you going to sleep eight hours
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: on that? Or let alone with somebody next to you?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody next... Well, I mean, I think pretty much
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: on top of you, because the hammocks, you tend to...
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: One person takes most of the weight.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. That's supposed to be during the summer. Like,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: everyone's going to be sweaty.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: And she's pregnant.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Is she?
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Debbie is pregnant.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: She says it twice in the van. I thought she
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: was joking. Well, I mean, she's not, I guess. She's not.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: She doesn't ever say that she's joking. She is pregnant.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: And this is funny because I listened to a couple
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: podcasts and research for this. And one of the podcasts
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: was like, I don't know what that does to the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: body count. But....
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: It's a great question. I have no idea.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's pregnant, man. She says it not once, twice.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: First pregnancy. So we have people taking a shit and
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: pregnancy outnumbering nudity in Friday the 13th, 4-3.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: You know, one thing I do have to point out
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: that I thought was really interesting is Tracy Savage... who
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: plays Debbie, actually ended up going into broadcasting.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: And she was on OJ Trial.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Yep. News anchor. She's actually, she spent some time in Michigan.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: I do know that. She graduated from U of M.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on, so our character, Shelly, played by
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Larry Zerner, has the hockey mask.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Now, did he fit this all in the box that
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: he had in the van?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I think so.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: And the wetsuit and the spear gun.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Military style packing. That's when you fold your socks
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: into your underwear, into your shirt, and you take up
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: less space, but you fold three times the amount of material.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: He's basically like preparing for the end times.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: How do you pack? How are you? Are you just
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: like a traditional fold?
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: My guy, I have the impact for going to scare fest.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I'm not like Shelly.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Not that equipped. Not like that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Um, yeah, he brings everything, dude. And he has so many,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: he's got, he's got, uh, you know, appliances with axes
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: in the head. And, uh, this guy's got a lot
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: going on, man. He's got the hockey mask. He's got
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that weird, clear plastic mask in the beginning.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: Oh, when he tries to sneak up on him?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very beginning, which he wears when he's
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: introduced to Vera.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, what do you think of the kills?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I actually think I actually love most of the kills
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: in this movie. I think Rick, his head being squeezed
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: and the eyeball popping out is genius for a 3D movie.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I don't care how the effect looks. I don't care
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: that you see the string. I don't care how he is.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I'd rather have that than CGI, man.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would take this over CGI. All day. I
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: think it's great. I think Vera's is the best. The
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: spear through the eye. Oh, yeah. I think that's the best.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I think Chuck being thrown into the electrical system.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: I always liked that one.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's kind of a kickoff of a bit
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: of a trend in Friday the 13th movies where people
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: get thrown into electrical things. Do you think... do you
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: think this inspired the Bucky kill on Halloween? I damn it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I can't believe you mentioned that. Cause that's what I
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: was thinking. I was like, is he really going to
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: mention this?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Tie it all together.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Is Bucky. I mean, do you think he appears in
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the same universe?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I think, I think, yeah, I think if, uh, I do.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. How great would it have been if, if, uh,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: after Chuck gets thrown in the electrical circuit, uh, Dana Kimmel,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Chris goes upstairs and calls the electric company. And Bucky
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: comes out there to service that.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Higgins Haven.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's like, all right, I'm here. I'll take care
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of this problem for you. I'll get this back on
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: in no time.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Bucky always seemed like such a hardworking, blue-collar kind of guy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: You know he'd be there on his day off.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Bad night to take overtime. Very bad night to take overtime.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: uh yeah i think the kills in trivia are good
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: if if a little restrained compared to kind of what
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: we're getting but it's like the the kills kind of
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: do gain a little bit of a meaner like spirit
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: to them after this one or in it no no
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: like there's some like vera i think that i think
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: that death is is pretty mean I think Vera getting
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: the spear to the eye is pretty mean. Shelly always
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: annoys me that it's off screen, that we just get
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: to see that reveal. And I understand why they did it,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: because he keeps playing these pranks. And it's like, oh,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: it's another prank, but it's actually real.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could have used a little bit more out
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: You know, the three kills of the three bikers in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the barn, well, two of the three, you know, have
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: their own little charm. I do love the shot when
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Fox's body is discovered, that she's kind of pinned to
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the rafter with the pitchfork. I do love that the
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: camera pans down to show that her character is actually
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: off the ground, which they use the body harness for.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I thought that was a great way to kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: sell the effect.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Is it Andy? Is he doing the handstand?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Andy is our handstand guy, which is the best kill
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: of this entire movie. The chop in half. Kind of
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: in half.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Terrible. Do you think this inspired Terrifier?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe. I think the best shot of this
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: movie is the reveal of Andy's body above Debbie when
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: she's reading the Fangoria magazine. And you just kind of
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: see him. He's like chopped in half and then Jason
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: kind of like folds his body to fit him up
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: in the bed that he's on or like that elevated...
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: surface that he's on.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like these movies there's always details that you
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: don't pick up on obviously on like first watch but
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: you go back and you watch it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Crazy yeah that's i also love that shot underneath like
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: through the floor of him getting hit in the pelvis
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: for the cut in half why is he always doing handstands.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: Though i don't know anybody that does handstands or or
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: plays with yo-yos but listen it was a simpler time
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: back then.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Wait you couldn't could you yo-yo back in the day
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: could you walk the dog i.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Think i was like okay at it but i always
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: felt like that those would always get tangled up and
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: then they were just like useless i had a game boy.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah they were juggle no juggling nothing like that
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: not man yeah i can't.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Juggle either listen i can barely.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Pack yeah well you you're running out of time to
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: pack i am though. Um, the fight with Jason here,
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Chris against Jason, like there's some stuff I really like
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: about it. And kind of contrary to your opinion, I
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: actually like the barn. I do think it adds, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: a little bit of like, it adds like a secondary interior.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: And it also does kind of add some fun, um,
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: kind of things to the end of the movie, such
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: as her hanging him and the reveal that Ali isn't dead,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and he just gets up and then gets
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a shit beat out of him again. I said, I
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: do think there's some fun stuff there.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: The hanging scene with Jason. I mean, obviously that, that,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that sets everything up for, uh, the final chapter. I
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: do like that about it. Yeah. Um, the chase scene
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: that we get with Jason, uh, You want to talk
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: about Nightmare Fuel? That scene of him watching from the
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: window is like some sinister shit. It's unsettling. This is
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: a different side of Jason than we've gotten up until
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: this point. And you know that he is just either
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: trying to get it in or he's just out for blood.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Richard Brooker's performance is great. And it's amazing what
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: he can do. We talk a lot about Kane Hodder.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: You know, from 6 to... Was it 9, right? 9, 10,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: 6 through 10? It was 7. Or 7 to 10. Yeah.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: So you have him from New Blood all the way
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: up to Jason X. Yeah. Yeah, okay. So 7-10.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: 7-10.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: And Kane Hodder brought a new level of physicality as
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: far as, like, I always loved the heavy breathing, the
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: very labored, like, the big chest movement, the big shoulder movement.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I love what Kane Hodder brings to that. Richard Brooker
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: brings something, I think, that's more nuanced to Jason. He
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: also brings, like, a little bit of a... It is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: kind of scary how, like, how... uh, like, like, it's
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like the best way to explain it is like when
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: he shoots Vera in the eye and then he just
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: kind of slowly lumbers away. It's like, okay, that's done.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: But not, not in like the, definitely not in the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Frankenstein way that he's like closer to, uh, like Fravor's Jason,
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: where I feel like there's, there's, he's obviously very present.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I would say in this, he's not like mindless.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ken Kersinger's performance in Freddy vs. Jason is way too, like,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Frankenstein compared to this. But at this point, technically, I mean,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: if you want to look at the franchise, I mean,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: technically he's alive. You know what I mean? This is
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: still pre-Resurrection Jason. So he's still kind of technically just
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: a human, right, at this point?
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: In part three, Jason? Yeah. Oh, for sure. I don't
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: think you really start getting the supernatural side of stuff, like,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: until after four.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: And then obviously five is.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Nah, geez. Spoilers. Yeah, right. It's Roy. God damn it, Roy. Yeah.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: But then you get six, yeah. I mean, that's when
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I feel like you start turning the page on a
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: new chapter.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: For him as a character and just can't be killed.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, you mean new chapter is in like Friday the 13th,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: part four. New chapter. Final chapter. Sorry.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, did you just combine a bunch of
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Friday the 13th titles together?
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: A new beginning chapter of New Blood.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Close enough.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: A new bloody beginning chapter.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: That could be part 13.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Let's get working on it. I think the hanging of
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Jason is very effective. I do think the dispatching of
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Jason in this is also very effective. I think one
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: of my problems with this movie is that everything is
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: in daylight for the most part. Yes. One of my
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: biggest complaints. The night stuff is... Very scary for Jason.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And daylight, depending on the type of daylight, I think
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: it could be very, very effective for Jason Voorhees. This
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: is just drenched in light. There's no shadow. Even inside
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: the barn, it doesn't really feel atmospheric. The light coming
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: in is just so bright that everything is kind of
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: even as far as lighting goes. So, I don't know.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It takes away something from it.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: I would agree with you. There's, it's hard to put
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: my finger on just exactly what doesn't completely work about,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: or it doesn't work about this film. I feel like, again,
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: it comes back to, I know you like the barn again.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: It's not, I wouldn't say that that's the reason why
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I don't put up, I don't put this film up higher,
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: but I agree with what you're getting at with, you know,
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: the lighting I think is, is, a little overkill.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I mean, at this point it's just minor complaints.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Like all these movies, it's very minor complaints. It's, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: like there, there, there's a lot of stuff that you
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: can bitch and complain about. Um, I always have a
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: ton of fun with this one. And honestly, like all
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: of the characters are the most part. I, I really like,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: I do love having a group of characters that I
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: don't mind spending time with. They all have their quirks.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: For any of the movies. For any of the movies,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: it's like that. I feel like that's what keeps us
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: coming back to this. The original, the sequels, I mean,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: it's just it depends what you're in the mood for.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: What cast of characters do you really want to hang
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: out with? Or at what point in the story do
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: you want to pop on?
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and from this point, I know we're talking a
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: lot about Final Chapter, but I truthfully think Final Chapter
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: has the the most relatable group of characters. and like
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: the characters in part four feel very real and all
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: their relationships feel real and the characters feel way more
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: complex than they ever have before um and that's why
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: i think four stands out so much It is really
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: cool that Paramount decided to go the 3D route with this,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: and the 3D obviously made it a hell on earth project,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: especially for Steve Miner, who really struggled on set with
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: this one. He was under a lot of stress, I believe,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: for this one. This movie took so long to shoot.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: It took way longer than it should have to shoot.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: It added so much unnecessary stress to the cast and
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: the crew, and it really didn't It didn't really blow
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: away the box office like they thought it was. I
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: think it did make more money than two, but it
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: didn't do it to the point where they were, like,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: super stoked about it. Which is why they went into
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: final chapter thinking, like, okay, we're going to end it here.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Because we're kind of getting to the point where we
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: might have diminishing returns. But as we know, it didn't.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Can't kill Jason.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: You can't kill Jason. You can try.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I think those, those eight Paramount films are just so
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: much fun. And then you get past that and, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: any of the other Friday the 13th films, definitely they, uh,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: they have their own appeal to them and, and reasons
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: why we come back to them. But man, it's those,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's, it's those first four that
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: really the, the franchise really starts hitting at stride. And
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: then from there, I mean, it really takes off and,
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: Part 3 is just no exception. This is a fun movie.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I had to ask you about this because obviously we
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: know where this ends up leading into the final chapter.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Do you feel like this film should have continued a
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: little bit more from Part 2? Would you have wanted
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: to see a continuation of jenny's character in in part
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: three or are you happy with what we got.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah i mean it's hard to look back and and
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: wish for anything else because there's no way to ever
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: see it i do wish jenny had come back because
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: to be quite frank like i think chris and rick
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: are two of the most forgettable characters in the show
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: i mean outside of me and chris sharing literal names
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: you know in eye color and eye color there's not
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: a lot that I really remember about either of them. Actually, Rick,
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: I think, is hilarious because of how deadpan that he
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: is all the time. I think he's got a great voice,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and he just has a very eclectic dryness about him
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: that I really appreciate. But Ginny was great, and it
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: really sucks that she had said no originally and then
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: kind of looks back in regret, wishing she had done it.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: I think that would have been great to continue that story.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: And personally, I think Sackhead Jason is one of my
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: favorite forms of Jason. So I wouldn't have minded seeing
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: that even longer into part three.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: I'm with you there 100%. Really?
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Listen, I will always come to bat. And, you know,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: the order can always change, like I mentioned. But Friday
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: the 13th, part two.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: His years have gone on that has settled in as
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: my favorite. I, every single time I talk about Friday
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: the 13th part two, I have to talk about Mark.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: And his death of getting the cleaver to the face.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: And then the shot of him rolling down the stairs
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: and his wheelchair in the room. Dude, it's so like,
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: there's it's, it's, like right up there for me with the,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: he's killing me, he's killing me. It's just a death
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that like leaves a bad taste in my mouth where
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, this one just feels.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Cause he's, he's like a down to earth guy. He's
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: just trying to get it in.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: And just gets like the worst kill out of the,
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: or I would say the, the harshest kill of all
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: part two.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And Vicky is, you know, out trying to get ready
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: for him. She's into him. Yeah. You know, and she's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: so sweet. We spoke to Lauren Marie Taylor right on
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: this podcast right here.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: Awesome.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: She's so sweet. And Mark is such a nice character, man.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: And for them to do that that way, where it's
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: just kind of rolled down the steps backwards. And that's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: why I think three kind of is overshadowed by a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: great part two and a great part four.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Characters are just like a slight tier higher.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: What, in two and four?
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these feel... Friday the 13th Part 3 feels like
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: an experiment. It feels like you had a half-decent continuation,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and then the rest of it is blanketed with this, like,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: we're going to try to do this in 3D thing.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: And I think audiences kind of felt that, where it's
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: like the gimmick slightly takes precedent over everything else. You know,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think the acting is all that great from
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: really anybody in this movie. And not that I'm saying
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: I watch Friday the 13th movies for acting, but... It
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: does feel the lesser of the first four. It does, like,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: you can almost watch the movie and you can almost
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: feel that there was tensions on set from something. It
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: does just kind of feel like something went different with
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: this one. And I don't quite have a moment to
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: put my finger on it and say, like, hey, this
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: is the stuff to watch out for. But when I
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: kind of dove into a little bit of history and
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: learned about the production nightmares. I was like, Oh, that
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: makes sense. It kind of reflects. And I don't really
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: think about that too often because I don't look at Friday,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: the 13th movies in any sort of like critical analysis light. No,
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I just sort of put them on and go. And
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: my complaints are so minor and so little that like,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I'm just happy to have people and kills and Jason
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: and it's fun, you know?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, you know, what's funny though, is that you
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: take a group of teenagers from this one. And then
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: it's like, I'm kind of, I'm, you know, while you
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: were explaining that I, am I comparing them to the
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: first one? And it's like, they're, they're all, they're all
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: good groups for their own reasons. Like, you know what
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I mean? It's different, different vibe, different aesthetic for each
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: one of these films. But, uh, Yeah, I don't know.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. It just feels like there's something
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: about this film, as much as I can appreciate it,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I think there's just something about it that just doesn't
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: feel as refined as some of the other ones we got.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's not to say that I spent this
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: whole episode talking about how much I like this movie.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: It's not to say that it takes away from my
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: experience with the movie. I still have a lot of
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: fun with it, but if you really want me to
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: sit down and start pulling things apart, I'm probably going
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: to have more to pick from this than I will
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: most outside of like, you know, seven, I think is,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: you know, still one of the weakest entries. I think
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: eight has some problems, but I, I've really come across,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I've really come to enjoy Jason's Manhattan a lot more, um,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: over the years. And, you know, Jason goes to hell
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: is one of my favorites. So I, I.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Think that would definitely climb through the ranking for me.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I can probably pick apart the most problems, um,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: from a film analysis perspective with Part 3 more than
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: any other in the franchise.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the only other one that it's no
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: fault of its own, it's Part 7 that I just
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: wish we could have seen the definitive vision.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. And it's a shame because John Carl
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Buechler did such great work for that movie that never
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: got seen. I know.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: It's disappointing. um but i mean this is this is
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: definitely you know i love watching these films as we
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: get closer to halloween uh above all else i feel
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: like the perfect rewatch for you know just getting out
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: the screen factory blu-ray set is right as we're approaching
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: summer that these movies go hand in hand So, I mean,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: you could throw it on any time of year, but
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: that's usually when I try to try to go back
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: and rewatch this in order.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I like them beginning of the year. I also like
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: them like now, like the fallout from summer. I also
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: enjoy it. Like I put this on and I think
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: it was like 55 degrees outside. I had the fireplace on.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this works.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I still got the vibe pretty good, but. Yeah.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, dude, at the end of the day,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: like I'm happy to add these movies to the beyond
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the blood, you know, roster because I love the Friday
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: 13th movie so much. Um, you know, they've definitely been
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: discussed to death. I definitely did not expect there to
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: be like a two hour episode from us on this. Um,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: but any, any chance that, that, that I can get to, to,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: to talk about Friday 13th, I'm going to take, and I,
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I think part three is, is a great addition. albeit
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: some of its problems um and i think that the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: movie holds up in in in ways that that kind
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: of like let me enjoy rewatch after rewatch after rewatch
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: like most of these movies i can put them on
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: at any time and i'm not really complaining about much
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: it's if i sit down and i put on you
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: know analysis classes i really start diving into problems but
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I don't like doing that with movies like this because
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: it's not meant to be looked at like that.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: I think between the two of us we definitely love
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: these movies a lot despite our little like you know
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: critiques here and there but I think if you're looking
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: to overanalyze any of these films I mean you'd be
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: doing them a disservice and yeah these films just have
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: like I said just have a lot of charm I
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: mean you know what you're getting with any of these.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: You have words yeah So before we wrap up, man,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: are you getting any Friday the 13th Part III signatures
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: at Scarifax?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: I actually have already met Paul Krakow and Dana Kimmel.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: I met them, I believe, last year. Nice. So I
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: got signatures from them at that event. And then previously
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I met Steve Miner a few years ago. I had
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: him sign my Friday the 13th Part II VHS.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: How was meeting him?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: He's cool. I kind of.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: I was curious as to like, you know, where the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: 3d influence, you know, kind of got brought into the, uh,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: the mix for part three, if it was his idea
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: or if it was a studio and it was something
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: that he was really interested in approaching for the film.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: So I thought that that was a pretty fascinating, but yeah,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's, you know, he's had an extensive, uh,
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: record of, uh, horror films. So it's, you know, to
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: be able to meet someone like that, it was pretty special.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Are you a Halloween H2O fan?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Not as much as Curse of Michael Myers. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about that on another day.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Just watched Halloween H2O with my wife the other day.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I still don't like that movie.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: It's... Yeah. I... I feel like the quality definitely starts
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: to dip around that point. Again, T-Seron, I... I can
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: see why some might like that movie, but, um, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: think it's more so when I go back and watch
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: that it's more for nostalgia, not necessarily, uh, rewatchability. Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Understood.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: Understood.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Well, Hey man, I hope you have a ton of
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: fun at scare fest. I know you're going to be
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: meeting up with some friends of the podcast. They're going
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: to be there. Like you, you, you had a lot
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: going on this weekend.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: Very excited. This has been, uh, it's like the one
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: time of year that I really look forward to a lot.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm looking to make this more of an annual
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: thing for sure.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, our next episode, we're going to be back
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: with a commentary show. Um, we're going to be diving
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: into one of the most iconic audio commentaries of all time,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: probably in genre history. Uh, it's the John Carpenter, Jamie
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Lee Curtis commentary track for 1978 Halloween. And we figured
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: it was about time two years into beyond the blood
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: that we finally give this one a listen. And talk
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: about it. So that's going to be dropping on Halloween.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: And then we're going to be heading into the final
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: two months of the year, which is fucking wild to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: be saying anyway.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: This year's gone by really quick.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Crazy, man.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: We've got to enjoy the last couple days that we
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: have leading up to Halloween. So for any of you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: guys out there listening, make sure you get all your
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: horror movie watches in between now and then.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Well, it's funny, man, because I see all these people
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and stuff, and they're like, oh, yeah, it's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: my time of year to watch horror movies. I'm like, wait,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: y'all don't do this year long like I do, like
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: we do?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's bad. They only saw our watch list or,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: you know, what we're checking out on a nightly basis.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Well, Steve, let people know where they can
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: find you.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: This weekend, you can find me at Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: Outside of that, you guys can find me at After
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Hours Video. I'm on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, you name it.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: And as always, a very, very honored to be here.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Pause it for one sec.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: All right, Steve, let people know where they can find
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: you at, man. Wait, I'm just going to keep this
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: in because this is the second time we've done this
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: and it's so good.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: All right. All right.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: This weekend, you guys can find me at Scarefest in Lexington, Kentucky.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I'll be there all weekend. Outside of that, you guys
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: can find me at. Oh, my God.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: You guys can find Steve at After Hours Video on Instagram.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: His link will be down below. And he's very honored to,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: as always, be here on the Beyond the Blood podcast.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's what he's.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Trying to say. It was. It was. Guys, I'm running on, like,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: next to no sleep, so.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Well, this weekend, you can find me around the New
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Jersey PA area, where I'm always at, just at home.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: You can always find me at beardedfilmguy on Instagram and,
• 1:04:39
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• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Steve has an absolute meltdown and has to drive a
• 1:04:45
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