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Best of Chuck in the Morning 7-24 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: And gentlemen, Welcome to Chaos. Let the games begin.
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  Speaker 4: Are you writing this down?
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  Speaker 1: This is Chuck in the morning. You people are beyond
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, let's get the game off. Oh eh ha ha,
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  Speaker 1: oh really tell me more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, today, it's gonna be interesting today. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 5: interesting today asual.
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  Speaker 1: Just gives in to it. Yeah, no idea what I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about. Hey, great Friday morning to you. Welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the radio program. My name is Chuck Powell. Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 1: here as well. We're gonna take it to ten o'clock
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  Speaker 1: here this morning. And I just want to give a
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  Speaker 1: shout out right off the bat to all those overnight workers,
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  Speaker 1: all of those people, those truck drivers, Hey, truck drivers, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: all those late night construction workers and road workers and
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  Speaker 1: everybody that not only gets up before the crack of dawn,
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  Speaker 1: and there are a lot of you out there listening
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  Speaker 1: and we want to just give our tip of the cap,
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  Speaker 1: but those that get up before it's even midnight, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm dealing with. I miss my nap yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and so I ended up falling asleep early, like eight
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  Speaker 1: thirty watching The Agency, which you tip me off to.
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  Speaker 6: Good show.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on the ninth episode of the first season, two
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  Speaker 1: more to go or one and a half, and so
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  Speaker 1: I was like kind of like showered in bed, like
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  Speaker 1: if I fall asleep, I fall asleep, and I did.
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  Speaker 1: I fell asleep at like a thirty last night because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have my nap in the middle of the
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  Speaker 1: day yesterday. And in doing that, I'm like, that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: that's great, except when you wake up at eleven thirty
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  Speaker 1: and can't go back to sleep. I mean, it's one
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  Speaker 1: thing to wake up early to start your day. It's
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  Speaker 1: another thing to wake up late to start your day.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, how many people's days start at eleven thirty pm?
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  Speaker 6: Not a lot of people.
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  Speaker 4: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Vampires?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: What up?
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  Speaker 1: Grave diggers?
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  Speaker 6: U suck.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where we're operating. Fortunately, it's a Friday. Fortunately
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  Speaker 1: there's some coffee in there if I need more. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I'm already hopped up on it right now, but
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  Speaker 1: I do definitely feel different. So if I overcompensate with energy,
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  Speaker 1: and if I overcompensate with blabby blabbiness, then I think
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  Speaker 1: you might might now know, you might understand why I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing that. Otherwise the whole engine just might shut down.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I think you know what. You go for it.
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  Speaker 6: We'll wrap this thing up with some booze and put
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  Speaker 6: you back to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that for your now,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm also looking forward to today's show. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're supposed to run a car
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  Speaker 1: in the red when it doesn't have any gas in it?
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  Speaker 6: Oh you're supposed to?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? Really?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah is that what a lot of the experts
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  Speaker 1: is here.
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  Speaker 6: The redder the better. Yeah, that's what they say.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you should do since you don't have any gas,
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  Speaker 1: just pedal to the metal. That's it. That's see.
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  Speaker 7: Where do you think that phrase came from? That's what
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  Speaker 7: they were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna give it a go, So welcome into
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  Speaker 1: the radio show. And yes, shout out to all of
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  Speaker 1: you that work those crazy I mean, we were crazy hours.
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  Speaker 1: We know that there are people that were crazier hours
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  Speaker 1: out there. Yes, so shout out to you today because
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  Speaker 1: I'm on your clock today, so we welcome you in.
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  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, is he going to work our
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  Speaker 6: boss into this?
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  Speaker 5: Ye?
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  Speaker 1: Today?
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  Speaker 6: And you did it and I'm proud of you to
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  Speaker 6: do it. Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we've got a lot of things to
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  Speaker 1: discuss today. I'll tell you what's going on, what's on
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  Speaker 1: tap coming up here in a little bit normal like
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  Speaker 1: the first segment. I mean, I mean I do trade
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  Speaker 1: talk every day for June July. I usually try to
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  Speaker 1: find a segment or part of a segment to mention
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  Speaker 1: something about trade season, about trade deadline countdown. I love it,
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  Speaker 1: not gonna apologize for it. Think I'm pretty good at it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we do it. We do it on this show.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't normally ever treat a rumor like the
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  Speaker 1: lead story of the day. You've probably picked up on
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  Speaker 1: it more often than not. Our first segment, as we
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  Speaker 1: crack the microphones at six o'clock in the morning, is
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  Speaker 1: usually the thing that people would be talking the most
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  Speaker 1: about at that given moment of the day, and so
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  Speaker 1: our lead story, the headline of the sports world in Seattle,
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  Speaker 1: that's usually what we would start with. Well, it turns
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  Speaker 1: out that I think the headline here today is a
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  Speaker 1: series of trade rumors. Ken Rosenthal reporting yesterday that a
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  Speaker 1: few things. As a matter of fact, I'll go through
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  Speaker 1: the few things that he pointed out. Number one, the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners have been trying to trade Luis Castillo. That's always
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  Speaker 1: great getting letting that get back to Luis Castillo.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet he's really excited.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really curious about Like, this is not the
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  Speaker 1: first time that Ken Rosenthal had a really detailed report,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes executives want information to get out sometimes they
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  Speaker 1: drive the information that gets out. Sometimes agents like to
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  Speaker 1: get information out. I have a feeling the Mariners can't
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  Speaker 1: be too happy. I mean, Rosenthal's run with stuff before.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a leak over there with the Mariners
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  Speaker 1: organization like it, because I can't imagine, I mean, didn't
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  Speaker 1: didn't this happen with Scott Servis was firing. It started
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  Speaker 1: with a Ken Rosenthal report, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think so, And then that's why they had to That's
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  Speaker 6: how he found out.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so I can't imagine. I mean, maybe Jerry's
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  Speaker 1: giving him this information. I think Jerry was blamed for
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  Speaker 1: or accused, or maybe it was found out as fact
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  Speaker 1: that he gave Rosenthal the information on Scott but didn't
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  Speaker 1: think he was going to report it before Scott could
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  Speaker 1: get back to town for him for Jerry to tell
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  Speaker 1: him something like that, Yeah, well here's Rosenthal again. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it is Jerry that gives him
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  Speaker 1: the information, but I would think that the Mariners would
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  Speaker 1: not want Luis Castillo to find out that, yes, we've
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  Speaker 1: been actively shopping you. We'd like to get rid of you,
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  Speaker 1: but we can't. And then Emerson Hancock is then the
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  Speaker 1: other big part of the story, which we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: in a moment, and that is that, well, since we
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  Speaker 1: can't trade Castillo, we don't want to trade our core four,
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  Speaker 1: if you will, Kirbie wu Miller, Gilbert No. So Hancock
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  Speaker 1: with controllable years, we don't want to trade him. But
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  Speaker 1: because of the market being different this year and not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of sellers and not a lot of bats
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  Speaker 1: being available on the market, Jerry has acknowledged that they
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  Speaker 1: might have to do a trade a piece a play
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  Speaker 1: player that's contributing this season for another team's contributing player.
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  Speaker 1: It might not be a prospects for a proven player
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  Speaker 1: kind of market that they're working with. And so Rosenthal
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  Speaker 1: reports yesterday that maybe they have decided on floating Emerson
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  Speaker 1: Hancock out there in trades and seeing if they can
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  Speaker 1: get a proven bat in return, while his value is
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  Speaker 1: certainly at its highest that it's ever been in his
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  Speaker 1: entire professional baseball career. So those are the reports. Now
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  Speaker 1: let's start diving it down, diving down into it, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with Castile. I don't necessarily want to be
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  Speaker 1: I told you so, guy, but I don't mind it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll do it. I mean, I'll do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I also don't want to be the oh, I never
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  Speaker 1: saw this coming when I repeatedly yeah, when I repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: told you that there's not going to be a market
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  Speaker 1: for Luis Castile. The only thing that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get in return for Luise Castillo is the most marginal
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  Speaker 1: of prospects that you could imagine that is not gonna
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  Speaker 1: help contribute to this team. Or you're gonna get a
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  Speaker 1: really bad contract, or actually a worst contract in return.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna say, we'll take that off your hands, but
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna take this bad contract in return. There was
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  Speaker 1: possibly a market out there for we're a contender, we
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  Speaker 1: could use pitching. We'll take him and the contract because
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  Speaker 1: we need pitching that badly. But you would still have
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  Speaker 1: to take a bad contract in return and probably not
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  Speaker 1: get a good player in return. So it's just not
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  Speaker 1: something the Mariners organization does. I mean, you know this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they won't spend wildly on free agency. They
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  Speaker 1: certainly aren't going to take somebody else's crap contract. No,
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  Speaker 1: somebody else's I would hope not honestly worst contract than
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  Speaker 1: what you already have. So I didn't think you were
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  Speaker 1: gonna have much success trading Luis Castillo, and it sounds
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  Speaker 1: like they've run into nothing but dead ends.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
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  Speaker 7: But again, I with the way that the Mariners are
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  Speaker 7: with money and with payroll and with things like that,
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  Speaker 7: and being so cautious of the contracts they give, I
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  Speaker 7: would be annoyed if they took a worse contract just
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  Speaker 7: to get rid of Luis Castillo. I mean, he at
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  Speaker 7: least right now is performing for you. So I know
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  Speaker 7: it's a problem to have six pitchers, but.
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  Speaker 1: He's pitched, actually, and that's really been an underreported thing.
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  Speaker 1: How much better he's pitched. Yeah, the piggyback unlocked something.
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  Speaker 1: He's been much better as of late.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, so I'd rather use that to our advantage.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, you just need to make a choice
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  Speaker 7: if he's going to the bullpen or not, versus agreed
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  Speaker 7: just to get rid of him, then you do something
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  Speaker 7: that is going to end up being.
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  Speaker 6: Worse or yeah, that's gonna end up being worse for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, But it doesn't mean barring one of those
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  Speaker 1: scenarios that I mapped out, which I don't think does
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  Speaker 1: anything for any Mariner fan. Oh we get a marginal
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  Speaker 1: player with a bad contract or a low level prospect
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  Speaker 1: that can't help Castile can help us more than a
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  Speaker 1: low levels Yeah, whether he goes to the bullpen with
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  Speaker 1: a poudy attitude or not, it's still going to be
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  Speaker 1: somebody with a potential to contribute more than a low
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  Speaker 1: level prospect. So I never really thought told you repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: that this was going to be an option. Doesn't sound
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  Speaker 1: like it's really going to be an option now. The
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  Speaker 1: handcock thing is pretty fresh, that's pretty new, and this
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  Speaker 1: is done I think purely out of we don't have
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  Speaker 1: a traditional trade deadline market. There are really only seven
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  Speaker 1: teams right now that are absolute sellers. There aren't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of bats out on the market that are available,
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  Speaker 1: particularly the type that we need, which is a proven
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  Speaker 1: right handed hitter. They're just not out there. Byron Buxton
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  Speaker 1: would have been an interesting one. But I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for those that were telling me over and over he's
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  Speaker 1: not gonna trade his wave, his no trade clause, I
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  Speaker 1: still think he might for the right team, but he
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  Speaker 1: certainly is doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on that sentiment.
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  Speaker 1: Not to mention, the Twins won't go away. They are
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  Speaker 1: still kind of competing in this weak season that the
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  Speaker 1: American League is having. They're certainly not out of the
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  Speaker 1: wildcard race. So it's a funky market. Even the teams
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  Speaker 1: that are out of it don't really have anything you'd want.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anything from the Rockies. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: I want anything from the Giants because if it's good,
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  Speaker 1: it's got a really hefty price tag attached to it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Elliott Ramos, But why would the Giants trade Elliott
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  Speaker 1: Ramos when they're trying to rebuild. So it does sound
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  Speaker 1: like Jerry has acknowledged, Hey, out of our depth at
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  Speaker 1: starting pitching. We might have to move an Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 1: while his value is its highest and we can get
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  Speaker 1: our or that way potentially, So let's talk about what
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  Speaker 1: you might be able to get. Okay, the name that
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  Speaker 1: keeps popping up the Chicago Cubs. They're the team that
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  Speaker 1: from the beginning of the year they can't keep a
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  Speaker 1: pitcher healthy, and they weren't very good with their pitching
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  Speaker 1: to begin with. They can hit the baseball. They're twelve
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  Speaker 1: games over five hundred, looks like they're heading to the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: They've been linked to Schoolble They've been linked to a
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  Speaker 1: lot of pitchers. Maybe this because the Cubs really not
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  Speaker 1: only do they need a starting pitcher right now, they
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  Speaker 1: could really use in their organization a controllable, young starting
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  Speaker 1: pitcher as well. So that's the name that keeps popping up.
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  Speaker 1: And the name in return is say a Suzuki, which
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  Speaker 1: I said when there were Castillo for Suzuki rumors, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: where do I sign?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Please? Yeah, let's get that done right now before you
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  Speaker 1: change Rye, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know, before someone figures out that it's a really bad
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  Speaker 7: trade for them and a right one for us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but obviously there wasn't any truth to that. That's
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  Speaker 1: again bloggers and podcasts not knowing anything and thrown out
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  Speaker 1: trade rumors out there, and so Seya Suzuki, but he
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  Speaker 1: could still be at the heart of it. If the
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  Speaker 1: Cubs need some starting pitching and they get a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's performing right now at an all star caliber level.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's got three point one six right through
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  Speaker 1: nineteen starts so far this year. And I just said
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  Speaker 1: yesterday Emerson Hancock has passed through, passed beyond that threshold
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  Speaker 1: of is this reel or not? I mean, it is
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  Speaker 1: real and I think that there's a great market for
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  Speaker 1: him because he's controlled for another four years beyond this one.
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  Speaker 1: They have him controlled through twenty thirty for goodness sake,
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  Speaker 1: so he's not even arbitration eligible yet, and so that
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  Speaker 1: comes with a lot of value. Starting pitcher pitching at
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  Speaker 1: an all star level age twenty seven, seems to have
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  Speaker 1: figured stuff out. Good guy, great contract, don't have to
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  Speaker 1: pay him for another four years, really significant money. And
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  Speaker 1: so could you get Suzuki for him? Of course if
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  Speaker 1: the Cubs want to, like us, trade from their strength
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  Speaker 1: to address a weakness. But here's the truth of the matter.
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  Speaker 1: Even though Suzuki right now is a better hitter probably
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  Speaker 1: than what Hancock is a pitcher, there's still enough value.
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  Speaker 1: There are enough similarities in what they can contribute to
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  Speaker 1: a team right now that that's not enough for an
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  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock. Yeah, we'll trade you Suzuki, whose contract for
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  Speaker 1: Suzuki his contract expires at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Will trade you Hancock for Suzuki twenty twenty six. But
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to give us for Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven to twenty thirty. I also saw another
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  Speaker 1: rumor about Emerson Hancock. Would the Cubs give Matt Shaw
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  Speaker 1: straight for Emerson Hancock? Like, what that f are you
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  Speaker 1: talking about? I mean, number one, he's not even available.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Shaw is injured. We're not trading Emerson Hancock for
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  Speaker 1: a guy that can't contribute to the.
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  Speaker 6: De anything for us right now? Yeah, that seems really dumb.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to have a bat, right So he's out
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  Speaker 1: indefinitely with a thumb injury. And some fool last night says,
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  Speaker 1: would they be interested in a straight up Matt Shaw? Okay, no,
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  Speaker 1: but you're onto something from this standpoint, Suzuki and Shaw
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  Speaker 1: for Hancock. So we get the Hancock for Suzuki, our depth,
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  Speaker 1: from our depth and from your depth. We just swap
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  Speaker 1: across the aisle. But Shaw is who you give us
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  Speaker 1: for Hancock twenty seven to twenty thirty, because we don't
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  Speaker 1: mean sure, I'd like to have two bats inserted into
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  Speaker 1: the lineup, but there's not a lot of room on
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  Speaker 1: this rock. Quite frankly, once Donovan gets back, Suzuki makes
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  Speaker 1: a huge difference. So you plug Suzuki in for this
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  Speaker 1: year and then you go on to spring trade. Even
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  Speaker 1: if Shaw can't contribute this year, which he'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to contribute by the end of the season at least
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  Speaker 1: that when you report the spring training, it's Matt Shaw
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  Speaker 1: of the Mariners who you have control over for the
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  Speaker 1: next five years, and they have Emerson Hancock. And that
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  Speaker 1: seems like a fair trade. So it's not Suzuki for Hancock. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're not paying us for the financial discrepancy between the two,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not paying us for the control that you
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  Speaker 1: get over Hancock versus the three months we would get
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  Speaker 1: out of, say a.
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  Speaker 6: Suzuki, Right, that would be a really terrible trade for us, right.
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  Speaker 8: And we're not, Well, it wouldn't be a terrible trade,
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  Speaker 8: but I don't think it's fair waste. Yeah, Hancock for
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  Speaker 8: Shaw would be a terrible trade because he's not even
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  Speaker 8: ready to contribute to the team right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's nonsense. But it let's take both your ideas
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  Speaker 1: and just smush them together. Suzuki and Shaw for Hancock.
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  Speaker 7: I do that well, because then, yeah, now as you said,
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  Speaker 7: you're looking, you're getting something at that point that's actually
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  Speaker 7: beneficial to the future.
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  Speaker 6: The whole idea and the present and the present.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the whole idea of trading Emerson Hancock kind of
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  Speaker 7: punches me in the gut, and I sure, and I
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  Speaker 7: wonder that idea. Yeah, I just love him. And it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: like for Mayriorners Fands, we finally got to see what
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: he can do, and he's finally here doing it, and
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: for that to then turn into okay, so now he's
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: tradable and he makes the most sense and.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: It just hurts well, and I don't like it. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: don't like it from the standpoint of he now knows, yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: he's being floated. Yeah, like for him to have fought
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: to get in here and now it's like, you've been
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: pitching so good. We are trying to invent ways to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: keep you in the starting rotation. And these are his
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: best friends right now in the world, and he finally
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: gets to look them right in the eye and say,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I'm right on level with you. Yeah, finally I caught
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: up to you. And this is fun being a part
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of this. And I know we're not winning as many games,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: but it is great having tracked you down. I feel accomplished,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I feel proud. I feel more a part of this
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: group than ever. And now he's got to walk around
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in Texas this weekend being trade bait. He knows now
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: he's being tradebed because that's just not some rumor or
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: me floating out some trade possibility, some goofy trade possibility.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: That is a report saying from Ken Rosenthal, one of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the top insiders in the game, saying the Mariners are
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: actively shopping Hancock because they can't move Castillo. So now
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: both of them are walking around Texas for the next
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: four days believing that the Mariners are trying to get
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: rid of them.
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and for a series that we like that, yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: and for a series that we need to do well. Personally,
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: I don't like that for them because that just sucks.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: And for a team, yeah, you want these guys to
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: go in with the right mindset and ready to help
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: this team win on a four game series and you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: be at their best.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: And so it's I just I don't I don't like it.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: All Right, Well, we're gonna talk more about this a
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: little bit later on in the show. Let's find out
• 20:16
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  Speaker 1: All right, so Mariners in Texas taking on the Rangers.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: That is the start of the biggest series of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: season to date. We'll see what kind of impact it
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: has going forward. We'll certainly talk about it later on
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: in the show. Five oh five's first pitch tonight. Mariners
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are fifty one and fifty two. The Rangers are fifty
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: one and fifty one. So whoever wins tonight's in first
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: place in the American League West. Bryce Miller will start
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: for the Mariners tonight, and the Rangers will go with
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: a very talented Mackenzie Gore. And he is left handed,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: so not only is he good, he's also left hand.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: It's a joy.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the first of four. So we play this
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: series all the way through Monday, Rangers versus Mariners. Let's
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: get it on. We are one day away from training camp,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: that's right. The World champs will report officially to the
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Virginia Mason Athletic Center tomorrow to get it started their
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: defense of the crown of the Throne in the National
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Football League. Greg Bell is going to join us again
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: today at seven O five to discuss that college football.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin said yesterday publicly that he regrets his exit
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: at Ole Miss. That's big of you. Yeah, it took
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: you a while, took.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Long enough, but you know what this is. So Lane Kiffin,
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: you know what.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I would also like to take this time today to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: mention that I do regret when I was three years
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: old and I threw a fit over I didn't want
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: spaghettios and threw them on the floor. I regret that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: I'm glad that you finally said that I.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Regret acting like an infant even though I was an infant.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And I think that's similar to al Langkiffin. Well, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: think I'm sorry for acting like an infant.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: Maturity at your at that at his current level, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: your maturity with the spaghettios abouts the same.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: We reached that level of man. I really regret that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: at the exact same time in our lives, Diego Pavia
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: was waived before even reported to Baltimore Ravens camp, so
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: he's now a free agent out there. I'm telling you, dude,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: ufl ufl should be all over Diego Pavia and it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: w NBA All Star Weekend. Dominique Malanga is representing the
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Seattle Storm and that's not just because they needed a
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Storm player. She earned it. Second year in the league.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: She's having a fantastic year and so she's going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: participate in the All Star Games. She's very also very likable,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: very likable person. All right, coming down next though, training camp.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Another part of our preview this week. I want to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: talk more about AJ Barner because we had a guest
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: on earlier this week that I don't think quite understands
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: what we have. An AJ Barner Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: Little Leaguers are headed to Greenville, North Carolina.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: What a moment dance into Littleague World Series. Super special,
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: the mom and me, super proud community. Just seen the
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: support that has been behind this team. Incredible to watch.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: Twelve strikeouts for a lot closes the door eleven winners
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: as they head the Little League Softball World Series.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: As we have a ticket punched here Danielle emotional about
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: watching her daughter go to the Little League World Series
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: or because she was doing the broadcast inside a coke cult. Yeah,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I guess one.
• 24:21
  Speaker 7: Well, so in this that audio that I took it
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: from isn't from the broadcast she posted it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: They had a camera on her in the actual booth,
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: so that's why it sounds that way.
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: But that's where you got like the full brunt of
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: it versus the highlight that they pulled off the ESPN broadcast,
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: which obviously she still says that, but it got cut
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: off on that part.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: So that's where you got, like the whole part.
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: I can't imagine that calling your daughter heading to the
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: Little League World Series.
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: It's pretty awesome.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, congratulations little Lori.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: Yes, and teammates and teammates. Yeah, she struck out twelve yesterday,
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: No big deal. Yeah, well it wasn't her four team
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: strikeout performance.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So not a chip off the old block, not at all,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: nothing like that at all. Didn't get anything from.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: That.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Dad, must be one specimen.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 25:12
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• 25:47
  Speaker 1: they are heading to the Little League World Series and
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that's gonna take place not until next Sunday. I guess
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: they give them the families plenty.
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  Speaker 7: Of the Google room for travel, playing eight days basically
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: to figure out where, how to get there and all
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  Speaker 7: that stuff, because I was talking to one of the
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: homish Little League moms a couple of weeks ago and
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: she was saying, yeah, if we win, we've only got
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: eight days to then turn it all around. And similar
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: to what mill Creek did last year, same thing, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: so it's fun to watch these parents who are like,
• 26:17
  Speaker 7: oh my god.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: How are we gonna do it? This is the best
• 26:19
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• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So they're taking on Lake Mary, Florida, and there is
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: something about Lake Mary. Everybody knows that everybody other headlines
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Mariners getting ready for their biggest series of the season
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: to date. They're in Texas to take on the Rangers.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Whoever wins tonight will be in first place. It is
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a four game series and really the only thing that
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: can really create some sort of a shake up. A
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: seismic measurement would be a sweep from one team or
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the other. Otherwise it's not some make or break series,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: but it does feel like the most important to this
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: moment in the season, especially for a struggling Mayors team
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: as they enter this game a half game back of
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers for first place in the American League West.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It'll be Bryce Miller for the Mariners. It'll be Mackenzie
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Gore going for the Rangers. First pitch is at five five.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We are also on the verge of WNBA All Star Weekend.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: They'll be festivities tonight. The game will be played tomorrow
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: at five thirty. Dominic Malanga will be our representative, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: not just because the Storm needed someone. They don't do
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: it that way. She earned it second year in the league.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: She's had a fantastic year, and I know the Storm
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: have not, but man, those three pieces, young pieces that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: they have looks like they're putting together a pretty bright future.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know why people are scared of rebuilds this.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah, this is what starts championship and then you get
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: to watch it from the ground up.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And then, of course we are one day
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: away from Seahawks training camp. All sorts of things to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: discuss with our Seahawks inside are joining us. Now is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: For you say anything, Greg, We've already talked to him.
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  Speaker 1: He'll have it corrected by next week. Daily Visits, Daily Visits.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you just remembered. He actually did send it to
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: me already.
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  Speaker 10: Darn it.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: I'm only just trying to be accurate. I really don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: care other than it's a misnomer.
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  Speaker 6: Trimester. We talked to Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 1: Every time Haley's comment buys through the air. We talked
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• 28:56
  Speaker 1: daily it's a daily habit that we have chatting with
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: our Seahawks insider and tomorrow it gets started. Training camp underway.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: The World champs getting set to defend their crowns. So
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean obviously you work all off season long,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: but you know you mentioned it yesterday. So many guys
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: returning from that World Championship team back to defend the crown.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I mean from a year ago at this time to now,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: what's going to be the difference in the strut between
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: these players on this roster coming in as World champs.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Well, that's Mike McDonald and the staffs job is to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: take the strut out of them and to make sure
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: that they While they want continuity and obviously with forty
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: nine to fifty three players eighty six percent of their
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: snaps coming back, they want continuity, they also want a
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: new mission, new, a sense of new. They don't want
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: this to think there's just because they won the Super
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Bowl they automatically are granted three wins to start to see.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That's not how sports work.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: So this is different.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: It's a new challenge. And now the challenge is can
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: you do it again when the entire league has studied you,
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: when your own division rival has restocked and has become
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: what everyone else thinks is the super Bowl favorite. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: the Rams and Mike McDonald's talked about perfecting the process,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: taking what they did last year and making it even better.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Making the players integral to how the team is coached,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: what the approaches they have, the messaging they have, what
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: they're like on third down, what they're like in the
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: red zone. This team wasn't very good in goal to
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: go situations near the goal line. There are things to
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: change and improve on. It's not just hey, let's roll
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: the footballs out. We won the super Bowl last year,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: we're going to win it again. So that's really what
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: McDonald's job here is in training camp to set the
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: baseline expectation that, no, we've got a lot more to
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: work on and perfect. And that's really what he's been
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: saying all off season. This process we have, can we
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: make it better? And he has the players input on that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: The players have a lot to say. They have a
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: leadership council, They have these walking talks they talk to
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you about with coaches, talking about how do you want
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: this team to be. He's really into tweaking, perfecting the
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: process of all of this, and I think you're going
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: to hear him say that the word process quite a
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: bit over the next six weeks of camp.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: You know, not a lot of new faces, which on
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: day number one of camp, just like day number one
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of school, you want to see the new kids that
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: have moved into your town that you've never met before. Well,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: our offensive coordinator is brand new. Is there a player
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and I'm not talking about rookies. I'm talking about ig
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Moonoghany or Fowler or anybody else that has a chance
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of becoming a bigger new face story than what Brian
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Florey is going to be from day number one of camp.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Well, because of circumstance, Emmanuel Wilson, the running back from
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Green as a chance. I didn't see a ton from
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: him in the OTAs in mini camp to suggest he's
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: going to have a prominent role. But they're still learning
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: about him and they won't really know. You don't know
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: what running backs have until the pads are on and
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: they're past blocking and they're run fitting with the offensive
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: line against a defensive line and blocking all of that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: So we'll see that during training camp. He's a five
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: hundred yard back who've got a minimum salary, non guaranteed
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: one year contract, which doesn't pretend that he's going to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: be a big role player right well, now, Kenny McIntosh
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: is on physibeanna to perform. We know Zach Charbona is
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: on the pup list and may not return to the
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: middle of the season. There's two candidates for the lead
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: back snaps that are not even going to be on
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: the field and start a training camp and maybe not
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: at all in training camp. So Wilson will have a chance,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: but he'll have George Holani with him, of course, the
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: rookie first round picked Diddarian Price. Those are the guys
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: that are right now in front of him. But we've
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: talked about this and said this many times. Every NFL team,
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: and especially the Seahawks need more than two running backs.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: They just do the position demands it. And I still
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: remember about ten years ago now the Seahawks had nineteen
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: different ball carriers in a regular season. So Emmanuel Wilson
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: has a chance. And if he doesn't succeed and doesn't
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: show them, he has a contract that's easily cutable and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: they wouldn't lose anything from doing it. This is a
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: big proving time for a guy like Emmanuel Wilson.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Is it safe to say ken Walker is going to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: be the most difficult guy to replace of those that left,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: or would you make an argument for Kobe Bryant or
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Rieke Woolan or Boye Mafey.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Well, not Woolan because of the depth in the secondary,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: and you mentioned nigm Monogamy. He's a former starter in
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: this league that arrived as a corner. They have Rodney
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Thomas who plays some corner, but he mostly was a
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: safety and a started. Or the Colts that has come
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: in in the way of Kobe Bryant leaving to the
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Bears and boy Maffey's place is they're going to give
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Derek call a more prominent role and have DeMarcus Lawrence
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: on side. On one edge, Jared Ivy has played. I
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: saw him playing defensive end and I asked McDonald at
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: the end of mini camp about that, and he says, Oh,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: I don't pigeonhole Jared Ivy or any of our players
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: in the one position. He could play all over, meaning
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: he could play outside linebacker they played last year, and
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: he could also play defensive end. So yes, by not
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: to mention Brian Flurry is the reason he's the offensive
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: coordinators because he's going to run the ball and outside
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: zone just like Kln Kubiak did and he's from the
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Shanahan tree. So the fact that, yes, the offense gonna
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: be predicated on running the ball, and you just lost
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: your lead running back that won the Super Bowl MVP
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: and with tearing it up in the postseason, Yes, by
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: use and importance, it's that walker backfill is the most important.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: And that's why I spent a first jump pick on
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: a running back.
• 35:01
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• 35:03
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• 35:05
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• 35:21
  Speaker 1: let's talk about aj Barner. I said, I was going
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to bring this up to you. My expectation is that
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: he takes a step forward. I think that he has
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the ability to be a pro bowler someday. I think
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it's very reasonable that he's a seventy catch guy, seven
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: hundred yard guy this year, and he scored seven touchdowns
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: last year, why not ten? That makes him a top
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: ten tight end in the National Football League. Are those
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: realistic expectations for Barner in his third year in this league?
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, with the way that Flurry will probably use a
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: tight end. Flurry's a former tight ends coach at the
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: forty nine er. That's what his job was last year,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: and Barner and the tight ends are already talking about
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: how tough Flurry is depending on the tight ends among
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: all the offensive positions. He's going to make it a
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: focal point. And Barner had two surgeries in the offseason
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: on two issues in the shoulder and ankle that were
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: bothering him as he played through it. He didn't make
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: it as an excuse.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: Because he's an Ohio guy. He's not going to do that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But he is definitely healthier than he was at the
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: end of last season when he was still excelling through
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: the playoffs in the Super Bowl. He thinks he's going
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: to be an all Pro. He thinks he's an all
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: pro tight end. He thinks he's one of the best
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: tight ends in the league right now, and he talks
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: about that openly. He's in an offense that can give
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: him every opportunity to do that. I think he's going
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: to be healthier and more productive because of that, being
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: able to separate down the field and get away from
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: safeties and linebackers. If he can get safeties and linebackers
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: on him when he's in full health, he has a
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: chance to have a big season and make defenses rethink
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: on who they allocate to cover him. And then that
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: opens things up outside for even more for Smith and
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Jigua and Cup and the rest of them. I think
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: that the Seahawks offense in the past game is going
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: to have Barner more involved than last year. Barner's value
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: to them is he can play every down and be
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: a run blocker is as well as and do it
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: as well as catching the ball. It's interesting Aj Barner
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: is getting healthy at the time that he's got a
• 37:23
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• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Thanks for bringing it up.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, let's get the latest on Witherspoon. Then,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: as we sit here twenty four hours from camp beginning,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna have to ask you about Devin Witherspoon
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: every time I see you. Yeah, for the next few
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: days until we have a deal. So where are we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: at right now.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Well, all indications are the veterans are coming in in mass,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: most of them here today. The deadline to report is today,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: so face to face would accelerate any remaining contract talks
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: and details. It wouldn't surprise me if his agents are
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: already in town. They this should be done soon, and
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I mean within days. It wouldn't surprise me if it
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: happens over the weekend. The Seahawks tend to make news
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: on a Saturday afternoon when I'm doing something else. But
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: now we're all going to be at Seahawks headquarters. So yeah,
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: I can think of Wilson's extension and Sherman's and Bobby Wagner,
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: and make no mistake, I'm mentioning them because Devin Witherspoon
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: is the modern day version of those guys to the
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: value of this team, and those guys all before signed
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: within days, I mean like one or two or three
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: days of camp starting. So we're talking Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. Again,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: we'll decide.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Whether it's done or not.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Is when the guaranteed money comes due. When is he
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: getting it up from? How much is guaranteed as signing?
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: How much is guaranteed next year? The fifth day of
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the league year is the common for the next round
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: of guarantees on a deal. How much of the signing bonus?
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: How much is the total percentage of the contract value guaranteed?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Those are the metrics that mean everything to an NFL
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: player in a league that nothing is guaranteed beyond your
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: next snap. So that's the details. I expected to be
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: thirty one million a year plus, which eclipse Trent Duffy
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: as the highest page cornerback in the league. And I
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: expect Christian Gonzalez in New England, who has the same
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: agent as Devin Witherspoon, to be waiting and watch Devin
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Witherspoon reset the market here in a few days.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: When's Greg Mell's the wedding anniversary. Let's announce the news. Then,
• 39:59
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• 40:01
  Speaker 3: It happened July fourth, our twenty ninth anniversary.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Actually, is that right? Yeah?
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: So it won't be then?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: What is is Greg Bell's daughter getting married anytime soon?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Let's announce the weather.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Don't even put that out there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: You know what, I won't even have a job anymore
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: when Sarah Belle gets married twenty years from now, if
• 40:22
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• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's probably the scariest thing you've ever brought.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Up to me in the air. That's that's a horrid
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: thought for me. She has a steady boyfriend. It just
• 40:39
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• 40:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my wife's listening right now, and she's probably like, oh, boy,
• 40:43
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• 40:47
  Speaker 1: That's my little girl. My little girl doesn't.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Get married, right, Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Well, every dad out there, when the daughter knows what
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I'm talking.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: About, Well, are you ready? Are we ready to get
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: this thing going along?
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: Do this? Okay, Yes, let's do that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: He's gonna be out there. You just gonna wait till Monday.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I might get out. It depends on what
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: else is going on. I've got people traveling in town
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: potentially this weekend. But but yeah, I might get out there,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: but certainly Monday. I'll certainly see you on Monday.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: No Monday, that's right, That's right, all.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Right, man, Thank you, appreciate it.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Happy weekend, Thank you. Greg Bell.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg Bell joining us, And yes, he'll be
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: on at ten o'clock here this morning, our Seahawks insider
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: joining us and he is back for another full season,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: So excited about that. Uh and if you want to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: hear him today, I'm sure he's got more information on
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: even worr Weatherspoon, all sorts of things, plus hard knocks
• 41:45
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• 41:50
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• 41:53
  Speaker 6: I would hope.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: So, because I'm going to talk about I'm going to
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: talk about his I'm nervous Dan Wilson's bullpen decisions because
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Greg tends to disagree with me on this. Yeah, so anyway,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: that's what we're going to do next.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: And yeah, go chat with go chat with Wendy.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You know, that's the thing about Greg Bell is when
• 42:17
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• 42:20
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• 42:25
  Speaker 6: Oh God, Katy.
• 42:28
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• 42:31
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• 42:34
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• 42:39
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• 44:00
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  Speaker 1: You're just hanging out with Leave Schreiber and Kevin Harlan
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: at the training camp this year.
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  Speaker 6: You know, you feel like that's what's gonna happen.
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• 44:37
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• 44:43
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• 44:46
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• 44:50
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• 44:52
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• 44:55
  Speaker 1: a while. Emon Worri, we hope is on course to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: start on opening day for the Seahawks new faces, Dante Fowler, Junior,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Noah Ingbadogany Gosh. I had it perfectly Earlieroghany. I love
• 45:11
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• 45:14
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• 45:18
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• 45:22
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• 45:26
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• 45:30
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• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for us on HBO's Hard Knocks, first time the Seahawks
• 45:37
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• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion has been featured, or at least the first
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: since the Ravens were Super Bowl champions. And so this
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: is gonna be an experience like we've never had before.
• 45:52
  Speaker 7: It is, and I am so excited. It's gonna be
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: just the whole thing.
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: I just.
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: I'm an're an optimist anytime going into a sports season,
• 46:02
  Speaker 7: I think my teams are going to do really well.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: But there's just a different feeling when your team is
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: the defending Super Bowl champs and you know they're still
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: really freaking good.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, probably going to be better. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I've never covered a Seahawks training camp with them being
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: world champs. I got here the year after they've lost
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, so I've never experienced this before Super
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Bowl and no one has experienced them on hard knocks before,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: So the combination of the two, this will be a
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: unique experience, no question about it. Now, Devin Witherspoon is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: in negotiations, so we've been wondering if this will be
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: all summed up before training camp gets started tomorrow. Well,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell has the latest on Spoon in the negotiations.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, indications are that veterans are coming in in mass,
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: most of them here today. The deadline to report is today.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Face to face would accelerate any remaining contract talks and
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: details wouldn't surprise me if his agents are already in town.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: This should be done soon, and I mean within days.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me if what happens over the weekend.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: The Seahawks tend to make news on a Saturday afternoon
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: when I'm doing something else, But now we're all going
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: to be at Seahawks headquarters, so yeah, I can think
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: of Wilson's extension and Sherman's and Bobby Wagner, And make
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: no mistake, I'm mentioning them because Devin Witherspoon is the
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: modern day version of those guys. To the value of
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: this team and those guys all before side within days,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I mean like one or two or three days of
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: camp starting. So we're talking Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday again.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: We'll decide whether it's done or not.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Is when the guaranteed money comes due.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Said this earlier in the week, should be the easiest
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: negotiation in the history of John Schneider's contractual bank downs
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: with his players. I mean, I would think you could
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: do this multitasking, like John Schneier could get an AB
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: workout in while he finalizes the Witherspoon deal. Should only
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: take eight minutes. Good AB workout only takes a good
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: eight minutes, and you could multitask. It should be so
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: easy to do so I have no need at all
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: for this to develop into any kind of distraction, not
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: that I'm predicting it. I don't think that it will.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: But this should just get tidied up in no time
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: flat easy, I think.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: So.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Numbers are obvious. We've got two willing parties that love
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: each other. Yeah. I hope this doesn't linger into training
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: camp too long. Item number three on The O Show.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: The Mariners are getting set to begin their biggest series
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of the season so far, and they'll be heading to Arlington,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Texas for the first of four games against the first
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: place Texas Rangers. Pretty flimsy first place stat is they're
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Texas Rangers. And you know what you do when you're
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: a city slicker and you head into a rowdy bar
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: of rednecks and cowboys. You come in, you sing that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: right off the bat were the Mariners. You get the
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Rangers on your side. Next thing you know, you go
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: to hostile territory and they're rooting for you. I've seen
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: it happen. If I've seen it happen once. I've seen
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it happen once.
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: If I had a dollar, right, I have.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: A dollar right, Yeah, learn something from the Blues Brothers.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Win them over like Rocky. Yeah, Like that'll show them.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Not only do you beat them, but you get the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Ranger fans to be rooting for you by the end
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: of the song. Yeah, do it. That's how you handle
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a hostile crowd or rednecks. They're not really rednecks. My
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: dad's a redneck. One half game separates the top two
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: teams in MLB's most sluggish division. The next four days
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: will not make or break either team. But a little
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: late July dust up, I like when people call it
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: jew la, a little late jew La dust up between contenders,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that's never a bad thing, and perhaps the Mariners can
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: send a message that they are in fact the team
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to beat in the American League West this weekend. Bryce
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Miller gets to start for US. Left hander Mackenzie Gore
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: is going to start for the Rangers. First pitch is
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: at five toh five. I'm kind of expecting. I mean,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: we just had a Rangers beat Rider on yesterday, and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: he's sitting here telling us he doesn't think it's going
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: to be that great of an atmosphere, not going to
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: feel like a playoff atmosphere in Texas, that Ranger fans
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: really don't believe in this team, that everybody's kind of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: expecting the Mariners to pull away in the second half.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: And he even went as far as telling us yesterday
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: that he thinks the Rangers probably will sell and not
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: even buy at the trading deadline because they realize that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't be division winners this year.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: That's sad.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: So we've got two teams that are pretty broken at
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: this stage in the season. So my guess is nobody's
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: gonna seize control a squad. I have a feeling we're
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: gonna get here on Monday. One team will have won two,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: one team will have lost one, and we'll be talking about,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: you know, probably a split of the four games. It
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: just feels like both teams are playing just that poorly
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't think anybody is just going to seize
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: this opportunity to take a stranglehold of the West. But
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I just I have a hard time picturing that
• 51:37
  Speaker 7: this series would be any different than the other series
• 51:39
  Speaker 7: we've played in.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, we're not just gonna go out and dominate.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think we're gonna play a game that's gonna
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: make us feel really great, and then we're gonna play
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: a game that's gonna leave us going what the f. Yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 7: And then we're gonna play a game that's gonna be like, yeah, Okay,
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: there were some decent things and we got away with
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: some things, and then there will be a game that
• 51:56
  Speaker 7: will just.
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: Someone will fart way to a win.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: That's probably That's probably it. In the meantime, it is
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: trade season, believe or not. We're just ten days away
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: from the trade deadline and we have not had a
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: move of significance. The Dodgers added a relief pitcher from
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: the Colorado Rockies, but he's not very good. Probably will
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: become great for the Dodgers, but we haven't had any moves.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Jim Bowden thinks, because it's a wonky market, that it
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: will take probably to the last two or three days
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: before the deadline before we really start seeing some activity.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: But certainly the hornet's nest got stirred up yesterday when
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: it comes to the Mariners and Mariner trade deadline rumors
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: by Ken Rosenthal. He reported yesterday that Mariners have tried
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: shopping around Luis Castile on the trade market, but they
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: can't find any takers for the veteran pitcher's hefty contract,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and according to Rosenthal, it has forced the Ems to
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: shop another starting pitcher ten days before the deadline. You
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: have a call in your.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Hero, Hancock.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be miserable the rest of your life until
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you accept that. Trust me, trust's planned this process. Just
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: staying here, man, that's where we want him to be.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Stay here, be a superhero, Hancock.
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: It's like, stay here in Billy Masson as long as
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: you can.
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: That's that's what I want, Like all.
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: These teammates to be doing it right, just squeezing his cheeks,
• 53:29
  Speaker 7: stay here.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: As long as you Well, the rumors have shifted to
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a younger, better pitcher than Luis Castillo, and maybe that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: was inevitable. Emerson Hancock is now walking around Texas wondering
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: if at any moment he's going to be traded away
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: from this team. After having just broken through into becoming
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: a legit All Star caliber starting pitcher, after many years
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: of struggle and climbing and clawing to get there, He's
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: there three point one six ERA over nineteen starts. But Ashley,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: with this tricky deadline and our excess of starting pitching
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and our lack of offense, the Mariners may be forced
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: to get creative and that may cost us Emerson Hancock
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: in a deal.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I do feel like that's such a Mariners
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: fan thing to have a guy that we're so excited
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: about and then he goes somewhere else and is just
• 54:24
  Speaker 7: as exciting, if not more, for them and leaves us
• 54:27
  Speaker 7: sad that we lost him. I don't want Emerson Hancock
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: to go anywhere I was talking earlier about. You also
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: don't want the mentality of him and Castillo walking around Texas,
• 54:36
  Speaker 7: you know, thinking that they're on the trade block. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: forgot that neither of them are pitching in this series.
• 54:40
  Speaker 7: So when you think about that, we could have already
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: seen the last time Emerson Hancock pitches in a Mariner's uniform.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: For sure, for sure, once hate that. Once you've gotten
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to this point. And I don't know who the leak is.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's Jerry, I don't know why you would leak
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: let Ken Rosenthal leak this out. I don't know if
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: you're the Mariners, because I mean, I'm not saying don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: shop Castillo. I'm not saying don't shop Hancock. But you're right.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: You got two of your starting pitchers, one of them
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: saying to the other one, you know, I guess they're
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: going to try to get rid of me, and the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: other one's going to them, Well, at least they can
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: get rid of.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: You, right, at least they didn't try, And now they're mad.
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: They couldn't.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't.
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: I would mutt it up over there.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't think the Mariners love this story, but I'm
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: not surprised that it's come to this. A Hancock trade
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: would likely fetch the Mariners the veteran right handed bat
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: that they need, and because of four more controllable years
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: on Emerson's deal, I would suspect they could also fetch
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: prospects capital as well, Like give us, say a Suzuki
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Cubs since you have excess hitting and need pitching. Give us,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: say a Suzuki, but that's just Hancock Suzuki for twenty
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: twenty six. What are you also going to give us
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: for Hancock twenty twenty seven through twenty thirty, Since he's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: under four more controllable years, You're gonna have to give
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: us something else for that part of Emerson Hancock. So
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I would not do a straight up Hancock Suzuki trade.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think that the Mariners will, but it might
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: be the only way to trade one of your young
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: starting pitchers to get that difference making bat that you
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: seek in a cold market where there's just not much
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: hitting going to be made available between now and the deadline.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, all I know is there will be few things
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: that will make me more upset that if they trade
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: Hancock and don't get enough for him.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: It him number five. It's w NBA All Star Weekend
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: and the Storm are going to be represented there by
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: second year center Dominique Malonga against Malana by dog lot
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: of possession by Tom Maloga to can she finish?
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: Yes she can?
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Well, good call, Dick Fame. That's nice. It work.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: He's pretty good at this.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: That's a good call right there. Second year center Dominique
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Malonga has earned I mean, this isn't one of those like,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: oh do they have to all be represented? Storm have
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: had a bad year. She's not. She's been an All
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Star this year, is averaging sixteen points, seven rebounds, and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: over a block shot per game for the Storm. Just
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: twenty years old. At age twenty, she becomes the third
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: youngest WNBA All Star in history. And even though the
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Storm are having a terrible year, which is fine, they're
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: rebuilding and now that probably leads to maybe the number
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: one overall pick to add to this trio of young
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: stars that they're developing right before our eyes. So I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: don't dislike rebuilds like a lot of sports fans. I
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: think they are a necessary evil and they tend to
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: get you to where you need to be. And I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: think this bad season for the Storm is going to
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: get them to a really special place eventually.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, just don't screw it up by start to win
• 58:00
  Speaker 7: too many and then you lose that number one option.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Chicago's hosting All Star festivities, which begin tonight. The actual
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: game will be played tomorrow at five thirty. Snowhomish Little
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: League is heading to the Softball World Series d Yo
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: two slaves the snow husht Aloes. I headed the Creamville,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. What a moment.
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: Vance into the Little League World Series Super special the
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: Mom and Me Super proud.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Twelve strikeouts for Lock closes the door, eleven three winners.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Let's clear something up. Danielle Laurie is a really good broadcaster. Uh.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: That was her fighting off her emotions right there and.
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: Just trying not to stop.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Trying not to cry, trying to remain professional, and so
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: she came off like an analyst that did not know
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: what to say. And it's because she did not know
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: what to say.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: How would you know what to say?
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: You're watching I mean her daughter, first of all, just
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: dominated everyone they played.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: She struck out fourteen in one game.
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: She struck out twelve yesterday, And you're watching this dream
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: that her and her team have all tried to achieve
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: happen while you are supposed to be broadcasting on the air.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: I would conflict of interest.
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: Oh man. She handled it well.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Easy, win eleven to three over Idaho to earn their
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: place in the World Series. And they won't open that
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: until next Sunday, August second. And it's going to be
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: an early morning game, seven o'clock Pacific time. It'll be
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: ten o'clock their time in Greenville, North Carolina, but seven
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: o'clock our time next Sunday against Lake Mary, Florida. And
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: you know what they say, there's something about Lake Mary.
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: There bett to be something about them losing.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Finally, Lane Kiffin yesterday he addressed the media. Kiffin,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: of course, left Old miss and probably the scummiest way possible.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, maybe that old Arkansas coach might
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: say aarhold my beer. Uh. But Lane Kiffin did speak
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: yesterday on how he now regrets his exit from ole Miss.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 11: I changed jobs and as I get older and I
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 11: go through things and losing both parents I was actually
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 11: talking to Ross Dollinger and I kind of said something
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 11: that might sound kind of funny to you, but you know,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 11: I watched the Hulk Hogan Special and I realized and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 11: I was like, we're all gonna die, and so some
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 11: of the things that we put importance on we worry about,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 11: and what this person says in that like really aren't
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 11: going to matter. And when I lost my dad, I
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 11: started thinking that, and I really started thinking when I
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 11: grew up, there were two people that I thought just
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 11: wouldn't die, my Dad and Hulk Hogan. And then I
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 11: watched that special and really like, Hulk Hogan died too.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 11: There's no way Hulk Hogan was ever going to not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 11: wrestle enough, and he did. And so it just made
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 11: me reflect really on, like I can't be so concerned
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 11: about little things and what people say in this and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 11: you got to make decisions. You got to go with them,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 11: and you do things, and you make really good decisions
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 11: and you make poor decisions. And that was a poor
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 11: usage of a term that I believe, just like many
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 11: coaches that hive and therefore was factual, but over the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 11: course of longer interview, it was bad timing. And bad
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 11: usage of the words. So it is what it is.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 11: I apologize when I said it and moving on.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's a normal guy.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 7: It's like his decision to leave and then he's like, well, yeah,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 7: and then the fact that I disstole Miss on the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: way out is like what he's talking about.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I made a choice to.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 7: Leave, and then, yeah, I was a jerk, but I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: didn't ever think hul Cogan was going to die.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, as I'm saying, yeah, it's not really important that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I was a jerk. Yeah, but I will apologize for being.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: A jerk because don't you feel bad my dad and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: hul Cogan died.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: That's basically what he's saying.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Weird. Ole Miss went to the Final Four without Kiffin
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: calling the shots and the playoff last year. The two
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: teams are going to meet September nineteenth, so circle that
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: on your college football calendar for this upcoming year. Phil
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Steele as Kiffin's LSU Tigers ranked number twenty one in
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the country to start the season, meanwhile ole Miss ranked eighth.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: This is a pretty easy one. Yeah, I'm pretty much
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: rooting against Lane Kiffin and LSU.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: Yesindy, all you're.
• 1:02:22
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• 1:03:23
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• 1:03:26
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• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: Hello Chuck. Thank you very much for the introduction.
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  Speaker 10: I appreciate that, and we'll try to get you on
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  Speaker 10: your way for the weekend here.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get us there in the right way.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: How was Ashley's golf game, by the way, and then
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: just her overall personality around you.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: She was good. She didn't throw any clubs, there was
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: no cursing.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Couldn't figure out how life, couldn't.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: Just could not dial in the you know, the distance
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: on the putts, which is unusual because you know, that's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 10: her home course up there.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: So it was I think.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: I think being in my presence, I think maybe unsettled
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 10: her a little bit, you know, And I have that
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: effect on people.
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  Speaker 6: Couldn't stop shaking.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: That was it, Yeah, I believe it. I heard he
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: had that effect on her husband as well. He was
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: over there knocking heat as well.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: Mark was on fire. He was terrific. He carried us
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: the whole afternoon. He was great.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: He was showing off in front of Kevin collabor That's
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: why he said.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 7: He said, the coolest thing was when Kevin would would
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: comment on his shots, and he's like.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: It's like he's just I've got the voice of God
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 6: just narrating.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: There was still a little bit of jim nance that afternoon.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: He said it was the best day ever.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: He loved it. Well, that's great. And and because Ashley
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: ran into Kevin at a golf event. She's like, come
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: on our show, and Kevin's like, okay. And that was
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: before Kevin decided to break all sorts of news this week,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: and so we get to talk to him about that stuff.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: We get to probe into his personal matters here on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the show. But I do want to say, before you know,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: we do dive into a few things. Softie really wanted
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: to interview you too. Do you have a message for
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Softy since his feelings are hurt that you're on the
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: morning show and not the afternoon show.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: You know what's bizarres.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 10: He called me about fifteen minutes ago and he said, hey,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: did we trade out in Lister for the number one
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 10: pick in nineteen ninety? And my immediate reaction was, there's
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: no way Golden State would have gone for that. But
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 10: indeed the Blazer the Sonics did trade out in Lister
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: for the number what would be the number one pick
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 10: of nineteen ninety, which was Gary Payton. He was taking
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: second in the draft, right behind Derek Coleman. So a
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 10: little bit of a Sonic's history today, a Sonics flashback.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Out in list. He was thirty years old at the.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: Time, traded to the Warriors, being run and coached by
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 10: Don Nelson, who had actually drafted out in Lister and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: Milwaukee loved out in Lister, but gave up what would
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 10: be the number two pick overall in the draft of
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: nineteen ninety and the Blazers get Gary Payton. The rest
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 10: is history. I mean, Peyton's number, he's a Hall of Famer,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: He's got the gold jacket, his number is probably going
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: to be retired when the Sonics come back. It'll be
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 10: out there in the arena, along hopefully alongside Sean Kemp
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: up there in the rafters, up there in the old
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: the old barn, the old coliseum, the climate Pledge.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: So you have that relationship with Softer. He just shoots
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: you trivia questions and things of that.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, just just out of the blue, he
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 10: called me.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: You know, hey, hey, hey man. I know it was
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: forty years ago, but the the.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: Sonics actually trade out and listen to the number one peck.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: I said, I know there's no way that happened, but
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 10: it did. Bob Bob wits at the then general manager.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: That was quite a coup in the heck of a
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: heck of a trade.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a lot of great history, uh, with you
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and the Sonics. I'm just gonna go ahead and ask
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: it now it feels appropriate. Are you looking forward to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: making more history with the Seattle SuperSonics.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think you gotta. You gotta get
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: my status on that is.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 10: I'm back in the back row with the with the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 10: trombones and the piccolos in the parade. I'm not going
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: to get ahead of the parade. You know, I'm gonna
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 10: let the leaders lead and I'm going to the back row,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 10: and you know, I'm just going to try to contribute
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 10: in any way I can to to the Sonics coming back.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 10: So anything I can do to get them back, that's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 10: job one. And of course there's not much I can
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 10: do other than just send out some positive vibes and
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 10: encourage people to hang in there because I think I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: think it will happen.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: I don't think there's.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 10: Any question in NBA basketball is coming back coming back
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 10: to Seattle. But I'll say this, I've been saying that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 10: since about two thousand and eight. People would ask me,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 10: I think it will be another three years before the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 10: Sonics come back, but I.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: Really mean it this time.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: You know, obviously everything is aligned the commissioners saying the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 10: right things.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: I think the powers to be here.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 10: In Seattle have been very, very patient, and they've I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: think everything is like up to bring the Sonics back.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: I'm very positive about that.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: I am as well. But it is understandable that Sonics
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: fans who've been dragged through this don't want to just
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: count it, count on it happening, and are going to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: wait to celebrate when the deal is actually done and
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: we've got verified information that they're coming. Why Why do
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: you think it's dragging on so long? And I'm talking
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: about just in the last two or three years, Like
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: Silver has been promising an announcement every six months for
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: the last two years. It feels like, why is why
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: is something that looks so obvious seeming to drag on
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: so long?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 10: Well, I think they were waiting for a few things,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: the collecting barting agreement to get that done with the players,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: and then the television contract they had to get that
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 10: ironed out. So now that all those issues have been
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 10: put to bed, I think the owners now can sit
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 10: down and take a look at it analytically. It all
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: comes down to money. You know, if if this works
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 10: out well and the expansion numbers are right and commensurate
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: with what the owners will carve out of that lucrative
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: TV contract. See, that's what they're weighing is, you know,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: is it going to be more profitable for us to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: bring on two expansion teams in great markets and you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 10: know Adam Silver of course has made no secret of
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 10: that in Seattle and in Las Vegas. Or is it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 10: better to just remain as we are thirty teams and
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: just reap the benefits of the national television contract. So
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 10: I think those are the big issues that they'll be
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 10: looking at. And I think that's why it's taking so long.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 10: It's because you've had those those two big dominoes that
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 10: had to fall, the collective bargaining agreement with the players
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 10: and then that incredibly lucrative television contract. And I think
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 10: now they can they've got all the data they need
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 10: to make that decision. And you know, Adam Silver is
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 10: indicated publicly that this fall there probably will be a vote,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: there'll be a determination as to whether or not they're
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 10: going to move forward.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's waiting for Lebron a sign So maybe that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: was the last thing we.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 10: Needed to have. Boy, that was big. Yeah, Lebron to Philadelphia.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 10: That's amazing news. Philly is going to be just a
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 10: fun team to watch this year.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: No doubt Kevin collabor is with us. How do you feel,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, let's say it doesn't end up being expansion,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: there is talk about maybe relocation. How would it set
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: with you? Having been the Blazer's voice and then obviously
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the Sonics voice, that if the Blazers ended up moving
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: up north to Seattle.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 10: Well, I don't think that's going to happen. To be
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: quite honest with you, I just don't for a variety
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 10: of reasons. I don't think that the NBA owners are
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 10: going to sit still.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: With a new owner sweeps.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 10: Into Portland, things don't work out there, they don't come
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: to a resolution. I'm just saying hypothetically, and then he's
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: suddenly able to up and relocate to a ripe market
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: like Seattle after so many people have worked so hard
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 10: to lay the groundwork. I just don't see that happening.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: I think what will happen. I mean, this is a
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 10: hard ball negotiation going on in Portland, but I think
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 10: at the end of the day, it's going to get done.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: You know, the Blazers are Portland, and Portland is.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: The Portland Trail Blazers.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: And even though they have a new owner who may
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: be dispassionate and really doesn't know anything about the market yet,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 10: you know, in terms of really diving in there and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 10: getting to know the community, I mean, he obviously knows
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 10: all the numbers. I think it's going to happen down there.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: I think they're going to be around and they're going
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: to be an exciting team. They've got a terrific roster,
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: very dynamic team on the Florid Damian Lollards back. John
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: Moran is joining him now. Denny Advia had a terrific
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 10: year last year. He's borderline all NBA. I mean, there's
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 10: a lot to the fans to celebrate down there once
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 10: they get by this business of getting the building done
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 10: and you know, look to the city's credit. They're looking
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: very carefully at this. It's going to be a huge investment.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 10: The state has already made it known that their contribution
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: is there. It's on the table and it will be
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: until December thirtieth. The county is getting on board as well.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: They're going to have a vote soon. The city's going
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 10: to vote on August the twelfth. There'll be twelve members
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 10: of the council and then the mayor will have the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: tie breaking vote. And I think it's going to be
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 10: a close vote, but I think it's going to get done.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Why could you just not continue with them? What is
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: it that just was not going to make it tenable
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: Well, I just we worked very hard during the course
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 10: of the year to get an extension on the contract
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 10: and we were just met with disinterest. And we continue
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 10: to work hard on it, and the contract deadline lapsed
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: on June thirtieth, and at that point I was free
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 10: to do whatever I wanted to do, and we still
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 10: hadn't come to any kind of resolution at all. But
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 10: I told my agent, let's hanging there. We gave them
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: another couple of weeks and they came back with an
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 10: offer that, frankly was you know, it's it just you know,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: it just wasn't serious. So the inference I got was
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 10: that they didn't want me, And so at that point
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: I just decided, you know, I'd just step aside, because you.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 4: Know, I want to. I want to move on.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 10: There are other projects out there that are interesting, and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 10: you know I want to I want.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: To get into those. I I may retire. I may not.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 10: I may retire and do projects on the side. We'll see.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 10: You know, woodworking always seem to be pretty fascinating to me.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: Chuck, So, well, they get a lathe and get to
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: work in my basement.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, i'd start with like a like a shoe,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: like a wood shoe, maybe like a kazoo or something
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to make the wood shoe. That would
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: be interesting.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, Dutch craftsmanship. That Dutch craftsmanship. I mean it's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: probably harder. I'm probably not given enough credit. So uh well, well,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: obviously everybody here in town knows and loves you as
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: a play by play broadcaster and already envisioning you being
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the Sonics play by play broadcaster. And I've already kind
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: of asked a question along these lines. I don't mean
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: to make you uncomfortable or put you in a bad position,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: but I mean, is that something like legitimately that you
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: see yourself two years from now if you got asked
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: to be the play by play voice of the Sonics,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: that's absolutely what you'd like to do to close out
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: your career.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: Oh Jack, you put me in a very bad spot.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 10: You made me feel very uncomfortable.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: No, I well, I mean sure, I mean who wouldn't.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: But you know, we we can't live in the past.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 10: You know, we can't live in the in the nineties,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 10: as much as we'd love to, you know, given today's
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: current climate. But yeah, you know, look, what I want
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 10: to do is help in any way I possibly can
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 10: a new team here in Seattle, a new NBA team
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: here in Seattle, in any way possible. So yeah, I'm
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 10: that's kind of my mindset is if I can help
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 10: in any way, I certainly will do that. And I'm
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 10: you know, I'm going to be listening. But you know, again,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 10: one one step at a time. We gotta We're gotta
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 10: let that parade roll out. And I'm just going to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 10: kind of be in the back and play a little
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 10: back up here on my trombone, and I just just
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: hope that the basketballs are bouncing again. It is, I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 10: tell you what, It is very very encouraging though to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 10: see all the science and to see all the former
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 10: Sonics come back to the various events and charity events
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 10: that are going on this summer. You know, we saw
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 10: Sean and Gary show up at the Rising Academy golf
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: tournament that Astley and I played in at Mill Creek
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 10: and by the way, they were just great hosts. It's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: just a beautiful layout there in a great club. I've
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 10: always enjoyed playing over there over the years. And you know,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 10: Shawn and Gary showed up and there was a line
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 10: around the golf course, you know, waiting to get their
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: picture for Shawn and Gary. What a unique opportunity. Jack
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: Sikma deat Love Shrimp. We see him, you know, at
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: all these events, giving their time, and so that's always
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 10: encouraging to see the old Sonics show up at the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 10: community events.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Well, let's not short change the idea about just reuniting
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the nineties. I mean, expansion teams are always bad. Anyway,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: we'll just suit up Peyton and Kemp and everybody and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: we'll just play play well.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: We definitely need to get we definitely need to get
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 10: those numbers up there in the rafters, There's no question
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: about that. I mean, those two guys brought so much
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: excitement in life to it. Debt Love Shrimp got his
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: number retired of course at you dubb Finally this year,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 10: it would be great to see his number hanging up
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 10: there as well.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, just bring them all back why not. What
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 4: a joyous occasion that would be.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Would you? I saw that you'd have interest even doing
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: college play by play. We have a vacancy here in Seattle.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, is that something that interests you, Husky's play
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: by play guy?
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw that. No, you know, I think they.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 10: Need to get a young guy there that's going to
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 10: kind of grow with the program. And uh I my
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 10: my sites would be I think on uh maybe doing
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 10: some some television uh here on the West coast and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 10: doing some college basketball on the weekends. That would be
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 10: kind of that would be fun. But uh, I think
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 10: you dub, they probably need a you know, they need
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: another young.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: Tony to to bring along.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 10: He did an excellent job and wish him the best
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 10: out there in Tampa Bay.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, uh yeah, I just uh I think that
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: would be a nice little transition. Again, I don't I
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to put too much
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: on your plate here.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 4: But you are just stirring the pot.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Am I'm trying.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: There's only there's only so much I can do. Goodness, graz.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Would you also like to co host with me? That
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: chair has also opened up here recently. You're not going
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: to be paid squad. If you didn't like that Portland offer,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: where do you see ihearts?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, yeah, it's to me, it was more about
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 10: you know, being comfortable with with the situation and uh,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 10: you know respected and you know, look, I had nine
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 10: great years down there, met a lot of people.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: Doel Walton was a dear friend of mine.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: You know, when you get a chance to work with
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: guys like Neil Everett as I did, Michael Holton who
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: had been there nineteen years, Lamar Hurd, the great brook
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 10: Oles and Damn I mean, you know, I was really
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 10: blessed to work with some extraordinarily talented people down there
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: in Portland and work around great guys like Damian Lillard
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 10: and CJ. McCollum. Those two fellows were just were great
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 10: to me when I first joined the club. Terry Stotts,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: the former Sonic assistant coach, was the head coach of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 10: course of the Blazers when I got there in twenty sixteen,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: and he welcomed me with open arms.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 4: And I was a great experience down there. I really
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: enjoyed it.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: So ideal world here then for Kevin collabor as the
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: world exists right now, it was just time to move
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: on to Portland, want the Blazers to stay, Sonics back
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: in two years, and then let the chips fall where
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: they may. That's pretty much sum it up.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, just stay healthy, continue to work on my craft,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 10: hang out with my family. They still love having me around.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 10: All four of my kids were blessed. All four of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 10: my kids are living here in the Seattle area, so
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: you know, we see each other quite a bit, you know,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: hang out with my granddaughter. She's five and full of energy,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 10: and so yeah, life is good for us, no complaints.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: Everything's good.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 10: As George Carl used to say, the basketball gods have
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 10: been good to.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Us and woodworking. I didn't mean to leave woodworking out
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: of the current situation too.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: I'm going to learn how to make a flog.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: Comfortable comfortable shoes from wood who knew.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Well the market's dying for one. I'll tell you that
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: absolutely need a comfortable wood shoe that you can use
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: on the basketball court. That would be fantastic. Well, hey,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: thank you very much for taking the time with us.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: We greatly appreciate it, and yes, we do our wish
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: list here for your future, but we'll work on it
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: one day at a time.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: How's that sound check. Thank you very much. You've made
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: me very uncomfortable, and I appreciate that.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Kevin collabor joining us right here on the radio program,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: Ashley's new golf partner. Of course, they've become fast friends.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Are now going to vacation together. I'm betting and Collaboro
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: will think of clever ways to describe all the things
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that five Iron does on vacation.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I should just have him.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna have Kevin record some stuff and then when
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 7: he does it, I'll just pretty great for him.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Harlan, Like Harlan's those crazy moments and
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: he just decides to lend play by play to them,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: like when a fan runs out onto the field. I
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: mean he's sort of become famous for that. Yeah, I
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: mean Collaboro, I know he's probably playing possum with us
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: on his plans for the future. That said it would
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: be uh, that's that could be a business venture for
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: him where he just does play by play. People send
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: in videos and he just does play by play of you,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: like cooking dinner.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, a five Iron thought it was the
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 7: greatest thing on earth. He's like, oh, and a great
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 7: shot from the big guy and five irons, just like,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: oh my god, I can listen to this all day,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: all day.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: That's great. Well, we appreciate him coming on. I mean,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I know he took it well. I felt I had
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: to ask him all of those questions because it's the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: questions that's on the lips of every single person listening.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean, I get it, I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: get it. I get what he's saying. They should probably
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: go with a young person, but it kind of feels
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: like what would be a nice, little smooth transition, you know,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: two years there.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 6: His reasoning was good, great, But I also.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm also I got another dog in the fire.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: There's another person I'm rooting for to get the Huskies
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: basketball job. So I'm a little torn on that. But
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: it just does kind of make sense, is it not.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say no to it, just a thought.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: All right? Coming on next ABCS of the MS come
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: your way, Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM. So
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: you probably know what's coming back, but it's not really coming.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: It's not really coming. It's going to be different. D
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: is for Dan, but D is also for decidedly different.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: We had a listener that said Hey, I've gotten your point.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I get your points on the Dan thing, but can
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: we maybe stop talking about the bullpen as much and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: start talking about the offense, which is the real issue
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: with this team? And you are absolutely right, You're absolutely
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: right that that is the real issue of the team.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: The only reason that I've brought up the Dan bullpen
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: thing is because I don't know if Dan controls really
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: that much about whether or not the offensive production. I
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: don't know if I can really lay that on his feet.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: I think managers do less today than they've ever done
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: from an x as an o's standpoint, to generate runs.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, we don't pinch run excuse me, we don't
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: pinch hit anymore, orcue me, sorry, we don't hit and
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: run anymore. We don't ever give steel signs. I mean,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: when's the last time you ever saw a third base
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: coach go through signs?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: Never?
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: When's the last time you saw this?
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: I can't recall it.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: He saw this number.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the tug on the ear, I swiped down the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 6: arm that.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Used to be the thing that everybody made, you know,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: everybody kind of related to.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's like the base ongoing baseball joke.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, have your aunt Maudie, you know, act out a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: baseball game and she's over there sending signs. Right, Yeah,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: we don't even do that anymore, so that there's not
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: as much what he does control our pitching changes and
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: bullpen and bench usage. And so that's why I've been
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: harping on that as of late. But let's change the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: topic here. Let us talk about the offense. And this
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: should give you an indication that I agree with you
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: that the bigger issue is the offense and not Dan.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: The bigger issue is not scoring runs otherwise. I mean,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I've been talking about a different trade every stinking day
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: for the last two months, somebody else that we could
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: possibly get, and it's always an offensive player, is it not?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Have I not just brought up an offensive player every
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: single time? So I am acknowledging I don't even think
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: we need to add a bullpen piece at the trading deadline,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: to be honest, because once you get to the playoffs,
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan are probably gonna
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: be on this roster. Hopefully Matt Brash is back if
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: we still have six pitchers, which maybe it's looking like
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: we're not six starting pitchers. Two of those, not just
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: one of them, two of them would be going to
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the bullpen. Even if we just have five, you're not
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: gonna have a five man rotation in the playoffs. You're
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: gonna have a four man So you're gonna get an
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: extra piece in your bullpen from who doesn't make the
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: starting rotation in the playoffs, as long as you make
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I don't even know. I mean, if
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: he adds if they add a relief pitcher at the
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: trading deadline, great, I see why. I understand why you would.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: But there is an absolute you have to add a bat, Yes,
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: so we do have to get and that bat has
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: to be somebody that crushes left handers. So I mean actively,
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  Speaker 1: not six months ago with the Boston Red Sox, not
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  Speaker 1: six months ago with the Chicago White Sox. Like somebody
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  Speaker 1: that right that yesterday crushed a left hander. Not somebody
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  Speaker 1: that's gonna have an off season program and a spring
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  Speaker 1: training with new hitting coaches. Somebody that Kevin Seitzer won't
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  Speaker 1: even talk to to tell him his hitting philosophy. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: somebody that just went from going two for four against
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  Speaker 1: the lefty last night and put on a new uniform,
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  Speaker 1: and without even having a conversation with Sitzer, goes into
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  Speaker 1: the batter's box and try to rake for us. Say
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  Speaker 1: A Suzuki is the big name this twenty four hour
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  Speaker 1: news cycle that keeps coming up. Emerson Hancock now possibly
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: part of the trade deadline equation. Sounds like, according to
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  Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, the Mariners are shopping Emerson because they couldn't
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: get a trade partner for Luis and his contract, and
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  Speaker 1: so trade one of the younger guys a lot more
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  Speaker 1: trade value right there. He's under control through twenty thirty. Also,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like you're giving somebody a prospect. You're giving
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  Speaker 1: somebody somebody that can pitch right now. He's pitching at
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  Speaker 1: an all star level right now. And the Cubs keep
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  Speaker 1: coming up prominently in possibly an Emerson Hancock trade, and
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: say A Zuzuki's name keeps coming up. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why the Cubs would even trade, say A Suzuki. He's
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  Speaker 1: that good. He's a middle of their order guy. They're
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  Speaker 1: trying to win the playoffs. Probably they should trade some
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  Speaker 1: prospects and get a pitcher. They traded some prospects to
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  Speaker 1: the Angels for Jose Siriano. That makes a lot more
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  Speaker 1: since then trading Saya Suzuki for Emerson Hancock. That said,
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  Speaker 1: since that ball is in play, I'll play it. I
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  Speaker 1: would absolutely love to have Suzuki got a. Not only
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  Speaker 1: does he hit both lefties and righties, he is actively
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  Speaker 1: crushing left handed pitching right now, And that's somebody you
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  Speaker 1: put fourth in your lineup right there every single night.
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  Speaker 1: Righty lefty doesn't matter. So yeah, and I would trade
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  Speaker 1: Emerson Hancock in a move with Suzuki, but not straight
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  Speaker 1: up as they talked about at six o'clock today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Suzuki for Handcock this season makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: They trade from an offensive surplus and satisfy a pitching deficit.
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  Speaker 1: We trade from a pitching surplus and satisfy an offensive deficit.
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  Speaker 1: But what are you gonna give me for Emerson Hancock
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  Speaker 1: from twenty twenty seven to twenty thirty, because I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: need something for that as well. Hancock for Suzuki, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but his contract expires at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: I only get him for three months. You're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to give me something for four more years of Emerson Hancock.
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  Speaker 6: Yet a song otherwise we lose that right there.
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  Speaker 1: Was a suggestion that Matt Shaw straight up for Emerson Hancock.
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  Speaker 1: Matt Shaw is injured with a thumb and is out indefinitely.
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  Speaker 1: Way on earth would we trade an active All Star
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  Speaker 1: caliber starting pitcher for a hitter that we can't use
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  Speaker 1: until a month or two from now. But you put
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  Speaker 1: him with Suzuki Because Matt Shaw has been the Cub's
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  Speaker 1: top prospect the last couple of years. And so we're
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  Speaker 1: trading for Suzuki for the twenty twenty six Hancock to
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  Speaker 1: help the Cubs with their pitching rotation, and then we
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: will trade Emerson Hancock twenty twenty seven through twenty thirty
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  Speaker 1: for Matt Shaw. Give us both. I'll do that deal,
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  Speaker 1: Shaw and Suzuki for Emerson as much as we love Emerson. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that makes sense to me. So to me, it's about
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  Speaker 1: whatever trade we make if we get a relief pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, I understand I'm in on that. But
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: just to hammer home the point that that texture was making,
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  Speaker 1: You're right, the bigger issue is offense more so than Dan.
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  Speaker 1: But in a lot of ways, I've kind of been
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: forced to talk about Dan a lot more than I've
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: been forced to talk about the offense. So yes, let's
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  Speaker 1: get this offense fixed. And most of it's going to
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  Speaker 1: have to come from within, by the way, Yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: nobody in the organization that saw cal Raley hitting one
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  Speaker 1: sixty this year, or Julio get off to a great
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: start and then peter out again, or Josh Naylor being
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: a minus one war value. Nobody saw any of that coming.
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  Speaker 1: So most of it has to be solved from within.
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  Speaker 1: But absolutely we need to add a bat in the
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  Speaker 1: next ten days.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I think part of the issue too, with
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  Speaker 7: the Dan situation versus the offense situation is the offense situation.
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  Speaker 7: We've had the same conversation about the offense what seems
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  Speaker 7: like for three years. I mean, they the inconsistencies, Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: you know, sometimes they'll put up eight runs, but then
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 7: the next day they get two hits. And it is
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: that same roller coaster that we've written as Mariners fans
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  Speaker 7: for the last three years.
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  Speaker 6: Probably five five, okay, yeah, so longer. So it feels like,
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Going all the way back to the Seager Hanniger team, Yeah,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: you're right. I mean they didn't hit in that first
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: half either. They got hot in the second half, but
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: we always have a tear in the second half or
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: maybe it's coming.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe.
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  Speaker 7: But that's why I think the DAN thing is more
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: of a focus versus the offense thing, because the DAN
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  Speaker 7: thing is more glaring in our face as a newer issue.
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  Speaker 6: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, And I mean we had offense major offensive issues
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  Speaker 1: last year. That's why we went and got the two
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: best two big bats at the deadline, Naylor and Gino.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Gino was a forty to fifty homer season
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  Speaker 1: last year. We added that at the deadline a year ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I mean we were having major offensive issues.
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  Speaker 6: Last year, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: So that's why it's that's why it doesn't seem like
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 7: as much of an everyday topic because it's like pulling hair.
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  Speaker 1: Uh he is four even? Are we even with the
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: Texas Rangers? I mean the standings kind of suggests that
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: we are. We are a half game back starting this
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  Speaker 1: four game series. They've played better. They are twenty second
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  Speaker 1: in runs, not great, but we're twenty ninth. They're twelve
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  Speaker 1: and zero on base percentage, we're twenty fourth. They're fifteenth
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: and slugging we're twenty nine. I mean they've underachieved by
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: their standards. Offensively, Corey Seekers hitting one to eighty two
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: this year, Corey Seekers having a Raleigh year. Evan Carter,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: who man I thought was gonna end up being a
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: start heating one to ninety one why at Langford once
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: again not available injured all the time, and he's injured
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: right now, so he's not going to be in this series.
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  Speaker 1: So even with all of that, they still been a
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: lot more productive than what the Mariners have ERA though
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: we're top five, by the way, we're top five. And
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: relief pitching too, for all of those that think are
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: bullpen stinks, we're in the top five. We're fifth, and
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: we're top five in ERA. They're twenty first, and they
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: have an all star closer, Jake Lats has been phenomenal
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: this year, unexpectedly, and then they got you know, they're
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: gonna have gore Yvaldi, de Gram and Rocker in this series.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's at least three out of four really
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: good pitchers that we're gonna have to go up against.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Now I believe they're gonna have to go against four
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: out of four really good pitchers over the course of
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: the next four days. The statistics suggest that the Rangers
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: have had a better first half in a lot of ways.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: But I still think we're a lot better than them.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we're even Vegas still has the Seattle
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: Mariners as top five best odds with a record under
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: five hundred, still top five best odds to win the
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: World Series. And our number is plus thirteen hundred the
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: Texas Rangers plus three thousand. That is a monstrous gap.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: So Vegas is telling you. I'm telling you, no one
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: wants to believe it. National analysts are telling you Mariners
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: are Jim Boden told us earlier this week, Jim Boden
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: said the Mariners could do nothing at the trading deadline
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: and they should still run away with the American League West.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: We just had the Rangers play by or not play
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: by play. Guy beat writer yesterday tell us on the
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: show that that most people associated with the Rangers think
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: they should sell at the trading deadline. They don't even
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: in first place and a half game up on the Mariners.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: They feel that the Mariners will get it together and
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: that the Rangers are this, this is what the Rangers are,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: a five hundred middland team, and that the Mariners should
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: pass them. And so for those reasons. The Rangers, A
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: lot of people think that they should should sell at
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: the trading deadline and not buy where we are undoubtedly buyers.
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  Speaker 6: If we sold, I think there would be a riot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly, So so yeah, I don't think we're
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  Speaker 1: even standing say that, not only I mean even is
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: looking at it glass half full. I mean we're actually
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: a half game back of them, But I don't think
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: this is an even matchup. I just think the Mariners
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: are a lot better than the Rangers. And then finally,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: and this is quickly f is for first Keith Law,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: who a lot of people love his analysis of prospects,
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: particularly he has a list that he sends out every
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: year that people gobble up, baseball fans gobble up, and
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: then halfway through the year he updates that list. Well,
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: he updated his list this week and his number one
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: prospect and all of baseball is Kate Anderson. Kate Anderson.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: Kate Anderson's ready. And that's another thing with the Hancock trade, like,
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: even if you moved Hancock, and we all like Emerson
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: and we love his story this year, but if you
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: moved him, even if something happened to one of your
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: five injury wise, in the second half, you probably are
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: upgrading the rotation because Kate Anderson, you know, he's probably
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: our third best starter in the entire organization.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's still in Arkansas.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: And he's just in Arkansas not allowing a hit every night,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's just unbelievable the heads this guy has turned.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: So we're good. Even if we trade away Emerson Hancock,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: we still have more starting pitching depth than pretty much
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: anybody in the sport right now. All right, coming up next,
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