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S5 140. Marie Betcher – Hospice encounters & Strange Things · Millennial Mustard Seed

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We claim to believe in a God who spoke the universe into
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places. It's really worthwhile to read
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Welcome back to the millennial Mustard Seed.
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I'm your host, Rod. Thanks for being here.
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For another cool episode, I'm joined by Marie Becher.
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She is the host of two podcasts, Hospice Explained and Hospice
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Encounters Piercing the Veil, both really cool podcasts.
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Marie has been working in hospitals for 35 plus years,
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specifically with Hospice patients.
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She jumps into some personal and fascinating stories that she has
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experienced over her time. And this episode is not
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exclusive to the Hospice conversation.
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She shares a time a few different times where some
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supernatural things happened in the course of her life.
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This is really a cool episode. I'm a big fan of what she does
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on both of her podcasts, bringing recognition to Hospice
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end of life process. You know, just being an advocate
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for people that work in the medical field that are in that
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environment. That's what they do for a
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living. And then also the people who
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don't know anything about Hospice and then find themselves
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at the end of life going, hey, I'm choosing Hospice, what do I
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expect? So it's a place where you can
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share experiences and also people in those professional
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settings can listen to other people's stories.
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We get into so much more than just Hospice.
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On this episode, which I loved about this conversation, she
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shares a few gems throughout the course of her life of wild stuff
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that happened to her one story in particular when she was a
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teenager. I'm not going to get into the
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Go, let's go. Hello, my name is Marie Becher.
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I am host of Hospice Explain podcast and Hospice Encounters
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podcast. Welcome to the millennial
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Mustard. Seed Podcast Marie, it is an
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honor to have you here with me. Thank you for being here.
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Thank you. I'm I'm excited.
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You're a registered nurse and you are the sole creator and
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host of Hospice Explained and also Hospice Encounters Piercing
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the veil. You interviewed me, I want to
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say a few months back, right? Was it like the end of last
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year? I could tell you what episode I
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wrote it down one SEC here. Well, I did write it down.
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Now my chicken scratched it. Hang on a second, I want number.
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I'm pretty sure you're #20 let me, I might not have wrote it on
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my. Mail.
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Yeah, it was it was October 29th of last year, episode 20 for
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you. We had a great conversation.
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You know, it felt good to get certain things off my chest.
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I know I've talked about my near death encounter.
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It's not fancy Wu and wah, you know, but it was really cool to
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have this place where you were just genuine.
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You cared about what I was saying.
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You gave me a space to share this encounter that in my early
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years really wrestled with what how to make sense of it, dealing
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with, you know, all the things that came along with that
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experience. So I just want to recognize you
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for what you're doing on both of your podcasts to really create a
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space where there's no gatekeeping.
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It's just people can come and get things off the chest, share
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what they're going through. So why don't you tell us, Just
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start off real quick. Tell us a little bit about you
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have two different podcasts. Tell us the names and kind of
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what happens on each one 'cause I know my audience may kind of
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favor one of your podcasts more than the other, generally
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speaking. No, absolutely.
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And I think that's realistic. So I'm a registered nurse and
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I've been a nurse for so I've been a registered nurse for 36
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years. I worked primarily in the
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hospital for 30 of them in multiple different roles.
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And I ended up finding myself in Hospice and loved it, loved it,
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loved it. I found an overwhelming need for
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education. The a lot of people don't end up
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choosing Hospice until it's really close to the end and then
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they need a lot of education real fast.
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And I ended up going part time with Hospice and then I have
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separated. I don't work Hospice.
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I'm still a registered nurse. But I actually stopped working
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Hospice because I found that I emotionally just really got too
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invested and I felt like it's, it's just was a better place for
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me to be a podcaster for it. And So what I do is I've been
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educating people on Hospice. It's literally called Hospice
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explained. And I feel like it's a safe
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place for spiritually because there's just a lot of people.
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My heart is to bring the education no matter what
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somebody believes. And so I just bring it in like
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I, I literally call it that safe place.
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So no matter what people believe, they can just listen
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and not feel like I'm going to be pounding a hammer on judgment
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or, or, you know, any religious beliefs.
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And just so people, your audience knows that they don't
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have to be a believer in Jesus or any religion to be on a
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Hospice service. For the most part, Medicaid,
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Medicare and insurance is all covered.
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And so Hospice is a benefit. It's your benefit.
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You've paid into this system. You deserve to get something out
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of it. And So what you get is a nurse,
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you get a social worker, you get a chaplain, you get a ACNA that
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usually does bath care or you know, shower care, whatever
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somebody needs. And and you get a physician.
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They physicians don't tend to come to the home.
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And so you have a service, you have a team, you have a full
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team of people helping somebody in that end of life season.
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And so I've just taken it on to explain it.
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And I was a podcasting for about a year and I read this book and,
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and I got to I've got to read the title.
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So I read this book called Imagine heaven, near death
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Experiences God's Promise and and the Exhilarating future that
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awaits you by John Burke and jury.
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I hadn't even read the whole book.
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I had read the first half of the book and it says you have to
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tell your story. And I kind of paused and I went,
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Oh, I have a lot of stories and I and I just kept hearing that
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you have to tell your story. You have to tell your story.
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And I'm like, I'm already a working wife, mom, you know,
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etcetera and podcaster. And now I'm thinking about my
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second podcast. So I created Hospice Encounters
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and we added Piercing the Veil because it really fits as you
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listen to it. So Hospice Encounters, I like to
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think of it as because I'm a Christian, I can just go there.
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I don't go there on Hospice, explain, but I go there on
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Hospice Encounters. I haven't done a lot of episodes
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and I don't do them, you know, I try to do them with regularity,
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but it's it's hard with with Hospice explained where I trying
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to reach that weekly level. So I have not reached that
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sequential method with Hospice encounters.
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And I'm just going to be honest, it's time related, but I started
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Hospice encounters in like the first episode is just telling
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the story. And if you'd like me, Rod, I can
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pause. Because I just.
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Don't want to ramble on without any questions.
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I got to hear at least one or two of your stories out of that.
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That's easy. You got a diversity of
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different, you know, people coming on to testify, other
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people in the medical field, other podcasters.
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But I want you to tell me what is some of the most profound
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things that does not have to be an interview you've done, but
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just throughout your time in Hospice over all these years.
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Give us like a gem story. All right, that's an easy one.
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Well, my first one, I'll actually, I got multiple, but
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I'll give you my first one. This is the easiest.
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My mom and my dad taught me who I am, you know, and my belief
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system and they did a great job. I said yes to Jesus in Sunday
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school before I turned 3. I'll never forget my mom goes.
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Do you want to go to Sunday? School and I said yes, you know,
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obviously you have to be not going to joke about it, but you
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have to be potty trained, you know, so I was potty trained and
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she's like, do you want to go to Sunday school?
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And I'm like, I knew the rules. You were supposed to be 3.
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But, you know, of course, it's a small little Lutheran Church.
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And I got in and I'm pretty sure I said yes, the very first
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Sunday. I remember couple of the ladies,
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one of them still alive, actually.
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And they, they were singing songs.
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They said, OK, we're going to pray.
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And I, you know, close your eyes and we're going to pray.
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And do you want Jesus in your heart?
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I remember looking around. I was thinking about this today.
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I thought he's going to ask me something.
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And I poked my, you know, looked my eyes around and.
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I raised my hand. I don't remember if anybody else
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did, but I even I remember looking at one of the teachers
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said she was like pointing at me and pointing to the other
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teachers like I think they wrote down.
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You know who said yes because of course they all knew us.
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So this is who I am and how I was raised.
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I was raised from an early time to know the Lord.
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And so my mom is AI don't want to call her a St. but she is a
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St. because she's she's passed on.
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I thought there was going to be some bells and whistles when she
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died. I was wrong.
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The only thing I can tell you that happened is the day before
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mom died, I was a young, young nurse.
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My sisters are nurses and my brothers are not.
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And my dad's not in the medical field.
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So we're just wondering. She was dying of heart and lung
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problems and we weren't sure exactly when she was going to
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die. She had been dying for a long
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time. And I mean, 3 1/2 years of this
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slow rumble. And so we had called her sister
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the night before she died and she said, you know what tomorrow
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is? And we said, no, she goes,
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tomorrow is 40 years to the day that Big Mama died, which is my
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mom's grandma or excuse me, my mom's mom.
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So we knew mom was dying the next day.
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And I was there and I was like, I don't know if I thought angels
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were going to come pick her up or, you know, I don't know.
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I'd been with patients dying, but I just thought something
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special was going to happen. And I think the special piece
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that I have to look back on was that I found out, you know, I'd
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been worrying when she would die.
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And I found out the day before, you know, this is it.
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You know, she doesn't have much longer.
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And it was peaceful. So I'm going to Fast forward 10
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years. My dad died 10 years later, and
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he died at my home. We put him in my bonus room
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like, you know, an extra bedroom and had a hospital bed brought
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in and did the whole Hospice thing.
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And to the night we gathered, 'cause we just kind of knew then
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I had been a much more experienced nurse and I knew,
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OK, we're get, we're getting there.
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Dad, just laying there looking at the ceiling.
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There's ten of us minimum in the room, maybe more 'cause we were
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visiting 'cause we knew this was our, our last visit.
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He goes, wow. I said, what, what do you, what,
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what do you, what's up, dad? And he goes.
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I see the sky, and I see the great beyond, and it's
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beautiful. I still get choked up.
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I said to my son, turn off the lights, 'cause I was like, I
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don't want anybody to go. Oh, he sees lights on the
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ceiling and he goes, oh, I see the great beyond.
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And he just kept saying it with that emphasis.
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It's beautiful. And he went to sleep that night
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and died about 30-6 hours later. You know, went into what I call
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a semi comatose state, really peaceful.
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And he passed peacefully. But peaceful as to me, I got to
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know, you know, the maker of the universe shared something about
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his universe with our family. I'm gonna pause.
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Wow. The verse that was coming softly
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into my remembrance as I'm listening is God will give you
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an expected end. We all have to face death at
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some point and when it's someone that we love and we are a
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witness to the this end chapter and and the gem that gets
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dropped, you know, your dad is telling you, Hey, I I'm seeing
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the great and beautiful beyond. I think that that's comforting
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for a lot of people that may be on the fence or just have never
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really thought about it. Or maybe, well, I know there's
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other people out there like me who kind of had some weird wake
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up calls and then they're wrestling what's really going to
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happen when I die. So that brings comfort.
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That's a part of the testimony you have.
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And I just want to I honor you and just applaud you for sharing
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that. And I know it's emotional.
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It was, it was wonderful. And it was I just, you know,
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it's really interesting. And I feel like I got through my
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dad's death so much differently than my mom's.
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And some of that's maturity, some of that's experience, but.
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It I just brought me so much peace and I think it's changed
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how I look at death and life And just, you know, it's probably
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why I've shared on Hospice encounters Pearson that veil a
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few of the near death experiences because I feel like
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I just I just want to encourage people that there is more out
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there that this is not a finite, this is not it.
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This is not all there is. Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
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I do have. My story of you've probably
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heard it, but the the one where I had the Hospice patients.
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So if you want me to tell that one, we.
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Can Oh no, I do yeah, as many as you want.
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And then if you want to tell us another story or two and then
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I'll drop a couple more questions.
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I'm actually excited to hear this one because I think I know
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briefly what it. Is so I'm going to tell a few
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I'll tell you a few more stories I I'm not going to deny that you
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may be disappointed if you listen to all my podcasts
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because. I have most of those.
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Stories are in the beginning few episodes are mine, but I, I love
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the simple one. My son's dog Ranger, he was 10
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and he had a really aggressive cancer and my son decided to
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come to my house and he hired somebody There's, there's folks
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that will go to your house to, you know, help you when your dog
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needs to go for the end of life. So they had it in two, two
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sections. My son, my husband left the
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house and took. Two of our dogs out of the house
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just so they weren't there. So my son was sitting on one
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couch and I was sitting on another.
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My my youngest daughter was there with him.
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So she was sitting on the couch with my son and I was alone on
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the other couch. And the person that was helping
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Ranger was actually standing behind at this moment.
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So Ranger had had his first injection.
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And I think there was two injections.
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She gave him one to relax him and was just letting that kick
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in. So he's relaxed and he, he just
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kind of, I remember watching this dog and he just, you know,
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he's a big lab. He's a £85 lab.
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He wasn't a small dog. So you can see his eyes and I'm
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just watching because that's what, you know, I'm assessing,
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watching, thinking what's happening.
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And that dog, you could just see he kind of lifted his head off
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my son's lap and shook his head a little bit.
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And he looked across the room and he looked towards the
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towards the left and you can see his eyes.
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He changed focus, looked in the middle.
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He changed focus, looked again. So he literally had looked at
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what I consider maybe three people, 3 angels.
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Then he looked at me. Then he looked at one more
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person on the couch. And I don't remember if there
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was one more beyond that. I remember trying to think about
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that. So he may have looked at 5:00,
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but it was kind of like, I'm pretty sure one of those was
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there for him. I'm sorry, that one's really
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bothers me too. I really think the animals go
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somewhere, Rod, I really do. Oh my gosh, I just got
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triggered. Had no idea this would happen.
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But the child, you know, not child, I wasn't a child, but the
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dog that I had, Mackenzie, she was a dog I loved.
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She was at my mom's house. She passed when she was 15.
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And this is a few years back. So this dog came into my life
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when I was about 15 years old, right?
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And same thing happened. She couldn't go up and down the
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steps anymore. Like we knew it was coming.
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So I went over, you know, my mom had quote, UN quote the people
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who come to assist to take your dog into the afterlife, right?
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And I'll never forget when these people came, she looked at them,
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at me, back at them and growled at them and just laid her head
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down and looked at me with the most patient and loving look and
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let the rest of the process go. And that kind of, you know, I
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haven't really went there in a while.
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So, so weird when you were telling that story, I was so
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triggered. I like, I literally frog in the
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throat. I'm like, Oh my gosh, I just
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went back because I put that on the back burner.
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But I felt some type of way about that when that happened,
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when Mackenzie said, I'm sorry, it you triggered me.
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I had to, I had to get that off my chest.
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So I didn't go to sleep on what being like, man, I should have
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just got that one out into the ether.
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But there's something going on there.
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I don't know. I mean, you know, Pet Sematary
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is a movie from when I was growing up and super creepy and
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there was these seated ideas in the millennial generation's mind
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about the creepy end of it. But I don't think that's the
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truth. I, I think that God is way more
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complicated and beautiful then any of us could really wrestle
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with the reality of that. And I don't think that there's a
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bond that we take place with an animal that's just like, like
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God is up there going, Oh, I've made a billion dogs.
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That one doesn't matter. I don't believe the God that I
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worship and serve of all creation thinks like that.
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I think everything has a purpose and a value and, and everything
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is a test. And when we do it right, there's
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rewards. We have friends waiting for us
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on the other side. Furry friends, if I could say it
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that way. I my, my daughter actually on
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Hospice encounters in I can't remember what episode and
24:10
probably episode 3. No, maybe not that early, but
24:14
anyway, she, she witnessed it. She witnessed she was sitting
24:18
next to my son and she gets on the episode and says I saw it
24:22
'cause I remember going, am I just me?
24:23
I don't know that my son saw it. He was just focused on the dog,
24:27
but Haley watched, she said, Oh yeah, there's an absolute.
24:31
He was looking at something and it wasn't us in the room.
24:34
So I could I'll just keep going with my Angel stories here for
24:41
here's a simple one. Here's here's just a this flat
24:44
out fact that I worked night shift.
24:46
I'm a registered nurse and I work night shift and I do 12
24:49
hour nights and they're hard sometimes to come home and go to
24:53
sleep, you know, So, so I'd come home and take a bath, you know,
24:57
and I have this kind of a triangle shaped it's, I don't
25:01
want to call it a triangle, but it's a, it's an odd, it's an odd
25:04
shaped tub that fits into the bathroom.
25:08
And nobody was home. Everybody went to school and
25:10
work. So I'm home alone and I was just
25:12
sitting in the tub and it's a bigger oversized tub and the
25:17
water's filling, you know, and my mind is just, you know,
25:19
starting to let go of all the nights busyness.
25:22
And I started falling forward. Now I know it, I wouldn't have
25:28
probably fell over in the tub, but I might have because it was
25:33
such an odd shape. I think I was going to hit my
25:34
head on the, you know, the spout, if I can remember right.
25:39
And a hand stopped me. So my eyes were shut as I was
25:43
falling forward. But I know you know what a hand
25:45
feels like. You know what something feels
25:48
like when it stops you. And it wasn't the tub.
25:51
And I opened her eyes because I woke right up.
25:53
You know how you just immediately wake up and you're
25:56
like, yeah, nobody's here? Yeah.
26:01
OK, Thank you, God. Thank you, Angel.
26:04
You know, I appreciate the help. Obviously, I needed it that day.
26:09
I know I have a guardian Angel and I will go ahead and I'll
26:14
tell you how I know it. So I told you my literal come to
26:22
Jesus, you know, I so I don't want to say it like that.
26:25
I told you in the beginning that I said yes to Jesus.
26:29
So I am a Christian and I did my best, you know, I always prayed,
26:34
I always, you know what I mean? But you know there's always
26:36
teenager moments, right? We teenagers can be make silly
26:40
choices fast some of us we all have these moments, right?
26:45
So I was leaving a friend's house and I'm.
26:49
Thinking it had to be close to midnight, I used to be have to
26:53
be home by midnight. So I know it was close to
26:55
midnight. I they were they were only like
26:57
15 minutes away. I lived at the time near Seattle
27:01
Tacoma International Airport. So I was driving from from South
27:07
of the airport to just north of the airport where I lived.
27:13
And somebody, you know how you just, it's, it's late.
27:16
There's nobody on the road. I mean, we're talking 45 years
27:19
ago, whatever it was 40 years ago.
27:21
There's nobody on the road because it's just, it was a not
27:25
rural, but it just wasn't as populated, right.
27:30
So somebody's tailgating me so tight.
27:33
They're just inches from my, my bumper and you, they were so
27:37
close. I almost didn't see them because
27:39
they were literally so close. You know how you look backwards
27:42
and you see lights? Well, there were no lights
27:45
because they were hidden behind the car.
27:47
So I'm in my mom's little Ford Fairmont, and this person passes
27:53
me on the corner. So a corner of going around the
27:57
on the freeway. And I pointed them to heaven
28:01
with my middle finger. Yeah, I'm going to own that.
28:06
I I it's not something I normally did either.
28:09
So it was kind of like, you know, you know, just not not it
28:14
was not nice. And I regretted it because it
28:16
enraged them, but I regretted it anyway because it wasn't the
28:19
nice thing to do. And this person started like
28:23
harassing me on the freeway, you know, and I didn't even, you
28:25
know, road rage wasn't even a thing.
28:27
So I'm I'm probably 17 or 18. I don't remember being 18, but I
28:32
might have been already 18. And so I like thinking I'm going
28:38
to pull off to the side of the freeway, you know, take an exit
28:41
when they're in the fast lane and they're going to go past.
28:44
And no, they just drove up the hill in the gravel and chased me
28:47
down. And then and of course, there's
28:49
a light at the top and it was like stop or go, you know, And
28:52
it was kind of like, so I stopped at the light a lot.
28:54
My doors were locked. And I'm like, Lord, forgive me.
28:57
I know. I prayed that with 100%.
29:00
I said, you know, Lord forgive me.
29:02
I, you know, literally do not know what I do.
29:06
Just please protect me. I don't know, you know, you
29:09
know, people are. Like, oh, I, I would have drove.
29:11
Around I had a six cylinder Ford Fairmont.
29:14
I knew the power of this vehicle was not, you know, I wasn't
29:17
going to be a match for a man that had a you know, could
29:21
probably take his car like a race car, you know, and it
29:24
wasn't a race car. I don't mean that it was, but
29:26
you know what I mean. This is an adult man that could
29:28
probably dry out drive me no matter what.
29:32
So he came, he parked behind me and he came up to my car and he
29:36
just started losing it on me. Of course, he tried to get in
29:39
the car and he couldn't. I think he was gonna.
29:42
I don't. I don't doubt that he would have
29:44
done something very not good to me.
29:47
But he stopped just mid screaming stopped.
29:52
And his eyes glazed over and he's looking at my passenger
29:55
seat Rod. There's nobody in the passenger
29:59
seat. This is an empty car.
30:03
I am alone and he is staring at it.
30:05
And this is enough so that I have looked back and forth 10
30:08
times. I'm like, OK, well, you know, my
30:13
mom always talked about angels. So I'm like, maybe, maybe
30:15
there's an Angel here. You know, there's no indent in
30:17
the seat. There's.
30:18
Nothing, you know. There's nothing to see.
30:20
I had nothing to literal see. And this this man just all of a
30:25
sudden straightened up, stood up, backed away from the car and
30:28
he yelled at me. And he says, don't flip people
30:31
off and starts marching back to his car.
30:34
And I found, you know, there's sometimes obviously you still
30:39
say things that you don't need to, but I felt this power to
30:41
say, well, then don't tailgate people, you know?
30:44
And he came back to start screaming at me again.
30:47
And he looked at my passenger and just turned around and
30:50
walked and walked and drove away.
30:56
I know, I know that's a that's a story.
30:59
I just have to pause because I could just keep talking and
31:01
talking. When his eyes glazed over, was
31:04
it like in shock or did he literally have like something
31:08
physical that was happening to him?
31:09
That's a good question. It's crazy.
31:11
I thought about that today. So it's not like the movies
31:13
where you, you know, they go white or they go black or, you
31:16
know, anything crazy. You could just tell what you.
31:20
So if you were to look at somebody, just like I could see
31:22
the dog's focus, you can see when somebody's focused on
31:25
something besides you if you're in a conversation with them.
31:29
And he's, you know, inches from my face.
31:31
The only thing separating this was the car door and the window.
31:35
And so I could see his face, 'cause he's leaned over.
31:38
He wasn't a tall guy. I could see his face, very.
31:43
Clearly. And I could see 'cause his jaw
31:45
relaxed, his mouth opened. Like, you know how you just kind
31:49
of when you're really listening intently, you might talk your
31:53
head to the side. And so all these little cues and
31:57
you're like in back of your head, you're like, he is
32:00
definitely talking to somebody. Somebody's giving him a talking
32:03
to. And so as part of it as like I
32:05
just shut up, but I'm like, I'll let let them give him a talking
32:08
to. Who's?
32:11
Them you know who's. Fascinating.
32:12
The Angel, you know, you just know that he's getting, you just
32:15
know it. So, so I have more to say about
32:18
him. He I, this is really hard to say
32:24
and this is something I've had to struggle and wrap my head
32:26
around. This happened in the years that
32:31
Gary Ridgway, who was a serial killer, was in my area.
32:36
I know people that worked with him.
32:38
He lived in my area and he was killing people in the Seattle
32:42
Tacoma. He was killing prostitutes.
32:45
So he he had blood lust in his eyes when I mean this person was
32:50
going to hurt me. But but I don't know what you
32:53
want to add to this or take away Rod.
32:55
I don't know how you want to. I'm not going to say it was him.
32:59
I'm not saying that because I can't.
33:01
I can't say that for sure. I just have a I've had a gut
33:05
feeling for a long time that that's who it was.
33:08
You know, I talk about this kind of stuff and I can't prove it,
33:12
but I believe that there are foul spirits that are of common
33:18
bond, right? So the same spirit that can be
33:21
on somebody like a spirit of murder or lust.
33:24
It's I believe those spirits are in cahoots together.
33:27
It doesn't mean it's like that spirit left somebody else to
33:31
come into that person because these both of these people share
33:34
lust. I don't, I don't think it's like
33:36
that in the spirit world. I just think that they have
33:38
their own interface system where just like we're able to birds of
33:44
a feather flock together, right? You hang out with good people.
33:47
The Bible says hang with the wise, become wiser, right?
33:50
It says hang with fools and it it can crumble your moral
33:53
compass. So I think in the spirit world
33:55
it parallels that. So when you say you seen, you
33:59
know that something about this guy.
34:01
There was kind of like an essence there if your gut was
34:04
registering, like, yo, that is a common threatening spirit that
34:09
has been identified. I think that's a fascinating
34:12
point to bring up, Marie. And and I think it's important
34:14
enough to just even spend that little extra time like we did on
34:18
it because other people out there are going to be like,
34:19
yeah, you know what? You ever just meet somebody and
34:22
you get a feeling that resonates with other people that were off
34:25
that you met throughout your life, you get the same kind of
34:28
weird, something's off. I think it's spirits that are
34:32
foul rolled together. They.
34:34
Do they do? I mean, I just know no matter
34:38
what this person, they just don't.
34:40
You just don't go charging up to a young teenager without I'll
34:44
intent that we know, irregardless of whether it
34:47
really was or really wasn't. He had I'll intent no matter who
34:51
he was. And he got a good talking to.
34:55
I always laugh. I'm saying that I don't know if
34:57
he got a good talking to. I I mean, who knows what was
34:59
going on spiritually? Who knows what was happening?
35:03
Well, it's clear his reaction, there was some type of
35:05
engagement happening, and the imagination can only run wild to
35:10
try to understand. So that that's a very, really
35:13
powerful story when it comes to working in the building, the
35:17
years you spent doing Hospice. I'm not asking for a creepy
35:20
story, OK, Because I don't like to focus on the the depth of the
35:24
darkness. I just want to hear two
35:26
different stories side by side. Like this was kind of creepy and
35:29
dark and this one was beautiful. Do you?
35:31
Can you do that for us here? Well, I could start with the
35:34
let's see here. So for me, for Hospice, what I
35:38
have to clarify is that I was an admission nurse.
35:40
I did not tend to see them die as much.
35:43
I, I got, I was really good because I worked so many years
35:48
in the hospital and in that emergent fashion where, you
35:53
know, I go in and figure out what's wrong and, you know, fix
35:56
things. I found that it was, it wasn't
35:59
like Hospice emergency room, 'cause they're not emergent
36:01
services, they are definitely not.
36:04
But I would go in and try and fix those things that were
36:08
broken, fix them so they could get peaceful and die.
36:12
So I didn't spend as many times with dying patients.
36:16
But I can tell you, I can tell you a few stories, not about
36:21
that, but I will be straight up that in the old buildings at
36:25
some of the, some one of the facilities I worked at that the
36:30
elevators in the middle of the night would open and close and
36:32
do some funny things. The monitors will go off and on
36:36
when they're not supposed to. There are lots of things
36:40
happening in there, bumps in the night and then you're just not
36:42
very comfortable with. So for Hospice, I have my, my
36:49
big story. So this was an actual Hospice
36:53
visit. I was going to do an admission
36:56
and they said, hey, Marie, can you go see this patient in the
36:59
hospital? So if we were seeing a patient
37:01
in the hospital instead of the home, what's happening is they
37:05
were dying and we didn't get a chance to get him home or
37:08
something to that effect. So I remember this person, she
37:12
was at a minimum early 80s minimum, maybe mid.
37:16
I saw her on a, let's just say I saw her on a Saturday because of
37:21
what happens is I would do those during the week or otherwise
37:24
somebody else might have done it.
37:26
So I saw her on a Saturday and I met her family and you know, we
37:30
just had a great conversation and it's like, you know, tell me
37:34
about your sister, 'cause she was already in the patient was
37:37
already in a comatose state on Saturday, so you couldn't get
37:41
her to rise and say or anything. There was no reactions.
37:45
They were just keeping her comfortable in the hospital.
37:48
And her sister was really kind of like, I'm kind of surprised
37:51
she hasn't died yet. And I said, why is that?
37:53
And she's, you know, I said, does she have her spiritual,
37:56
she's physically comfortable? How's her spiritual life?
37:59
Is she spiritually at peace? And she goes, yeah, she's a
38:02
Christian. She's she should be just fine.
38:06
I said, OK, you know, and I probably offered to pray with
38:10
the family. And I believe they said yes,
38:12
just for comfort and peace and not as a Christian in Hospice.
38:17
What I you offer something, you know, and if you're a Christian,
38:22
well, that's fair, 'cause that's what you are, right?
38:24
You're going to, you can pray with them, but it's only an
38:27
offer if they don't want it, they say no and it's no big
38:29
deal. You go on.
38:32
And that would happen every so often if I just felt LED, you
38:34
know, I'd be like, hey, do you want me to pray for you?
38:36
And they'd be like, yes, yes, please.
38:39
So this Sunday, the next day, I go back and I visited this
38:42
patient first in the morning 'cause I had a couple admissions
38:44
to go do. And another thing I'm doing when
38:49
I'm going to the hospital is I want to make sure the nurses
38:51
know, hey, you can call me if you have questions.
38:54
You know, we can help you get this patient comfortable.
38:58
So it's all right. I go in the room, it's just
39:03
right after eight or right around 8:00 in the morning.
39:05
So it's, it's, I don't remember what time of the year, but it's,
39:08
it's very, it's well lit, but the room lights are off.
39:13
It's a two-bedroom. The patient's by the window, the
39:17
window curtains, I believe, are partially open, not fully open.
39:23
And so I go in and, and, you know, I just start, I just
39:26
whisper, you know, hi. So and so I'm Marie, I'm here
39:30
to, you know, I'm just going to do a few vital signs and check
39:33
on you because see how you're doing, you know, are you in pain
39:36
or, you know, you just kind of talk to them like they're going
39:38
to answer you, but they may not. And I said, I'm just going to,
39:41
you know, put this little thing on your finger and I'm going to
39:43
check your oximeter and I'm going to check your temperature.
39:46
And I just kind of listened and you can kind of hear the
39:48
gurgling in the lungs. And, you know, I just touched
39:51
the scythoscope to the chest. And, you know, and I said, you
39:55
know, I'm kind of put my stuff away.
39:57
And I was like, maybe I, you know, I prayed yesterday with
40:01
this family. I'll go ahead and pray with
40:02
them, pray with this patient, you know, So I just said a quiet
40:05
little prayer, you know, and it was more of just just praying
40:09
for her, this patient's peace and blessing and, you know,
40:13
peaceful passing because I. You know, as much as you want
40:17
to, I just can't, it couldn't sit there, right?
40:19
And her family wasn't there yet. And I don't know when they were
40:22
going to get there. But so Rod, I'm, I'm walking
40:26
away. I grab my bag and I go around to
40:28
the end of the bed and I'm walking towards the door and I
40:32
see something on the side of my my face and, and, and you have
40:36
to just stop. And you just kind of like, OK,
40:38
I'm seeing something, you know, and you're just like, your
40:40
brain's starting to catch up. I am seeing something.
40:43
I'm really seeing something. It actually took me several
40:47
years before I realized what I saw.
40:49
So a lake is horizontal, right? Flat, and you see ripples in the
40:53
water. This is vertical water,
40:55
basically. And I was watching the TV show
40:58
Stargate and I was like. Oh my gosh.
41:00
That's what it was. I saw that lake literally
41:03
standing up next to me, so it wasn't like.
41:07
How's it this I? Struggled to describe this.
41:10
I so struggled to describe this. So, so, so it's it's ripples,
41:16
almost a misty look. And I look and I'm like, OK, so
41:20
I can see beyond the room, you know, can I see out the next
41:25
room? No.
41:26
Can I see into the next room? No.
41:29
But I'm like, you look down at the floor and you're like,
41:31
there's a wheelchair against the wall and there's, you know, odds
41:34
and ends because at the end of the bed to the wall, it's, it's,
41:39
I don't even want to say 5 feet, but, you know, there's five.
41:41
Feet at the end, but. I could see depth.
41:45
I so could I see people? Could I see figures?
41:50
Could I see angels? Could I see any spiritual thing
41:54
other than the effects? No, I could only see this, this
42:00
water effect, almost like a mistiness.
42:05
And I went to the other bed and I stood there and I just stared
42:09
at the patient and the And this water effect, I keep calling it
42:13
a water effect 'cause I don't want to call it a Stargate,
42:15
'cause I mean, but. It.
42:18
Was a portal. It was a tunnel.
42:20
I'm just describing, you know that.
42:22
And I just kept saying that same thing and I'm like, this is
42:26
really something, you know, and you're just like I, I laugh
42:30
nowadays and I'm thinking some people be like, I want to go in
42:32
it. Well, I technically did.
42:34
I walked through it. Nothing happened to me because I
42:37
walk through it because I walked at the end of the bed, But I
42:41
thought our words. I said this on another podcast
42:46
actually, I think I think our that prayer just helped open the
42:50
portal. It helped open it.
42:52
I think it really did. I what's a good way to I'm a
42:59
little stumped for words right now, but I don't want to say
43:02
that my prayer opened the portal.
43:04
I'm not going to say that it did, but it, maybe it helped it
43:06
maybe, maybe the timing was just right.
43:10
Maybe it was just the fact that I just happened to be there at
43:12
the right place and the right time and God just says, OK,
43:14
Marie, today's the day you get to see something special.
43:19
I think that's where the patient was going to get going on her
43:23
her journey. Yeah, that's such a great way to
43:27
look at it. You know, with all of this
43:31
antidotical stuff, personal experiences, what we read in the
43:34
Bible, there has to be some humility because not one person
43:39
has it all figured out. And just the way you depicted
43:41
that it's, it's genuine, it's sincere.
43:44
We don't want to use language like it was a Stargate just like
43:48
episode, you know, whatever from from this TV show or something.
43:51
Like we don't really want to do that.
43:52
But sometimes we don't have the vocabulary other than something
43:56
like that, because a lot of stuff has been, you know, hush
44:00
hush or just not. It's campfire stories.
44:03
And, and, and that's what I love about what you do, Marie, is
44:07
you're giving people a license to be like, you know what,
44:11
you're not alone. There's actually way more people
44:13
out there than we probably ever would have previously realized
44:17
until the day of technology came along to connect us all that
44:21
there's tons of stories and tons of experiences that do parallel
44:26
each other. And I say a lot of the times the
44:28
God we wish to worship, I don't say that disrespectfully to
44:32
anybody, but I say that as like the eye opener Marie that
44:35
there's no denominational preference with God.
44:38
He's he's omnipotent. He's omnipotent where I like I'm
44:43
when I'm talking about God, I'm talking about literally the
44:46
creator, the light giver, the one who brings calamity, the one
44:50
who brings increase. All things are in his hand.
44:53
So when I hear stories like that, I'm like a little kid at
44:57
the candy store. I'm like this.
44:58
We're getting closer to the heart of understanding our
45:02
experiences and this vast, you know, network of people that
45:06
kind of have been governed by the fear of can I talk about
45:11
what I've seen or experienced because of things like a
45:13
religious spirit or just fear mongering or just not feeling
45:16
like you can fit in. There's not not a better
45:19
compliment I can give you then to invite you on and literally
45:22
ask my audience to go check out what you're doing and to hear
45:25
your story, 'cause I believe in what you're doing and you
45:28
sharing those stories right now, almost every episode.
45:32
God has allowed us to interact with the ripple effect.
45:36
Marie, I'm still trying to understand how to explain this
45:41
to people, but this stuff happens where a story,
45:46
encouragement, the word, the eternal word that never returns
45:50
void, It goes out, right? So we send it forth and it stirs
45:55
something else and somebody else up.
45:57
Then there's testimonies that come forth.
45:59
It's like a chain reaction. We don't see all of it.
46:01
Oh my gosh, I probably don't even see .001% of what God has
46:07
done through these little podcasts.
46:09
But when we do see something, we understand it's very important.
46:16
Give us some closing statements on just like your testimony, any
46:20
loose ends that you'd like to tie and I'm just going to hand
46:22
the mic back to you. Thank you so much for your kind
46:25
words about my podcasts. I appreciate that.
46:28
I just used Campfire Stories couple episodes ago.
46:31
I think if you heard that campfire conversation, I think I
46:35
used or have I even used it yet? Oh my goodness.
46:39
I'm just looking at my I. Don't even that's funny.
46:41
You said campfire that I literally said it or I'm going
46:45
to say it. Conversations in Hospice explain
46:50
because it's what a fitting words is.
46:55
People need to be able to have hard conversations with people.
46:57
And I want to just say, interestingly enough, I did not
47:01
tell anybody about that person that almost hurt me that talked
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to my guardian Angel until I told like one person the next
47:13
day. And they're like.
47:15
Oh, I would have done. XYZ and I'm thinking you weren't
47:17
there and I just sealed it up, put that in the vault, didn't
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tell anybody until right before I ended up sharing it on the
47:25
podcast. I told my nieces and they're
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like, wow, this is a great story.
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And so then my my other one, I didn't tell anybody for several
47:34
couple years. What do you say?
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Like I didn't even have the words you, you called it.
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I did not have the words to describe what I saw.
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So, so to wrap up, where am I and what am I doing?
47:47
I am, I am going to keep on doing Hospice explained.
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And if somebody that's listening wants to share their Hospice
47:54
story, I, I love kind of going over those Hospice stories.
47:59
If you're a medical professional and you want to encourage
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somebody, you're welcome to be on Hospice explained.
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Both of those, you know, they just kind of fit and I really do
48:10
keep it a safe place for, you know, belief systems.
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So, you know, you don't have to be believing in a certain system
48:19
or sorry, not to believe in a certain system.
48:22
You don't have to believe a certain way to be a guest on the
48:26
show by any means on either way on either that or Hospice
48:29
encounters, but Hospice encounters piercing the veil.
48:33
And I got that from fellow podcaster Brandon Spain on
48:38
unrefined podcast. He, he said, I said, Brandon, we
48:42
were doing a, a podcast group, you know, online and I said
48:47
Hospice encounters needs more. And he goes, how about piercing
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the veil? And I thought, you know, that
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really, that really picks that piece right in the right in the
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middle. That's exactly what it is.
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There's a veil that we can't see.
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And I came down for me a few times, you know, in the
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different moments, like when the Angel stopped me from hurting
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myself in the bathtub, not hurting myself, but falling in
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the bathtub or, you know, from protecting me as a teenager.
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So there's a veil. And if you want to Share your
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story, and Rod's been on Hospice encounters.
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If you want to Share your story, I'd be happy to have you.
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And I got to be honest, Rod, I think it's going towards near
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death encounters. I don't know why it's not the
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way I originally intended Hospice encounters to go, but
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that seems to be kind of the, the way it's starting to head.
49:40
So I think like you really felt, I, I think it gave you some
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peace or it gave you, what did you use the word?
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It gave you some closure. A place, yeah, like a place to
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air it out. Like I I recited my experience
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in my own mind. People in my personal life knew
49:57
it. But once people started, you
49:59
know, requesting me to come on their podcast, I think I've been
50:02
on 1/2 a dozen shows to talk about my experience.
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Every time it felt a little bit better, it aired it out.
50:09
Yeah, exactly. And so I, I think that might be
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where it's heading. I'm not stressing over it
50:18
because podcasting. Nobody knows how much time it
50:20
takes except another podcaster probably, or somebody.
50:23
That used to podcast. I understand what you're going
50:26
through. Yeah, I know I I work and I, you
50:30
know, got lots going on. So podcasting is I'm just not
50:34
stressing over it. But as this as the folks come
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in, I'll I'll do the interviews. So I appreciate being on your so
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sorry, Rod. Thank you so much for having me
50:44
on Millennial Muster Seed podcast.
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It's been an honor to have you here.
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You're just as genuine and authentic as they come, Marie
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and I really believe in what you're doing.
50:57
And I, you know, just to reiterate what you said, I'm in
51:01
agreement with you. There is no stress.
51:03
Things morph and change on our shows and, and kind of meeting
51:07
the need and just going with it is so important to encourage my
51:13
audience. If you guys have dealt with
51:14
something, you're not alone. I've had so many people say I'm
51:18
so intimidated as a listener of all these podcasts for years to
51:22
come on a podcast. But I want to encourage you
51:24
guys. We're real people dealing with
51:26
real life scenarios, real faith, real problems, right?
51:29
We're just like, don't put anybody on a pedestal.
51:32
Reach out to me. Reach out to Marie, however you
51:35
want to do that and come forward and testify, Marie, It's an
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honor. Thank you.
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Thank you very much. Coming to you from Southeastern
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PA. That's it, That's the show.
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God bless and goodbye. Hello, my name is Marie Betcher.
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I am host of Hospice Explain Podcast and Hospice Encounters
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podcast and welcome to the Millennial Must.
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The. I'm sorry.
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Wait. Welcome.
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Do you know how many reels of loopers I have with people
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tongue? I plan to the end of my episode
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sometimes. Oh my gosh, yeah.
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I I can use what you've laid down.
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Just do the welcome to the Millennium mustard seed.
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Not all put put them together. OK, welcome to the Millennial
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Mustard Seed podcast. The.
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None.