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Sharri | 14 July · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening again. Welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: I'm Danikiti, Giorgio filling in this week for Sharry Markson
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Speaker 3: Coming up on the show tonight, The Prime Minister's word
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Speaker 3: salads as he acts as an apologist for China on
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Speaker 3: the world stage. Now wonder the US wants to clarify
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Speaker 3: our alliance. Shadow Minister for Defense Industry just at Nampajim
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Speaker 3: for Price will join us. The secret's out Treasury documents
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Speaker 3: accidentally leaked in an embarrassing bungle, but Jim Chalmers says
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Speaker 3: he's pretty relaxed about it. Pauline Hansen will have her say.
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Speaker 3: Liberal Party, conservatives and moderates warring over pre selection. Will
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Speaker 3: this party ever unify and rebuild? Ray Hadley to come
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Speaker 3: on that and a cascade of failings. It's been one
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Speaker 3: year since the attempted assassination on.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's life.
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Speaker 3: Will unpack a new report into the Secret Services stuff up.
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Speaker 3: But first tonight, what is the purpose of Anthony alban
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Speaker 3: on the world stage.
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Speaker 2: It's seriously difficult.
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Speaker 3: To understand what he stands for, who he represents, and
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Speaker 3: where his allegiances lie. Have a look at this for example,
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Speaker 3: he's in China and is standing in front of three flags,
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Speaker 3: the Australian flag, the Aboriginal flag and the Torres Strait
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Speaker 3: Island of flag. What a bizarre image that is, the
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Speaker 3: leader of the country goes to another country and stands
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Speaker 3: in front of three flags. I mean, why not just
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Speaker 3: one our flag the Australian flag. Who does he stand for? Well,
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Speaker 3: it certainly doesn't seem like it's Australia. In fact, Anthony
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Speaker 3: Albernizi has started acting as an apologist for China, darting
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Speaker 3: around any and all topics that involve Australia's greatest strategic
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Speaker 3: threat through word salads and unclear positions. I mean, he
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Speaker 3: may as well be Kamala Harris. Now tomorrow the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister will meet with President Shijing Ping and Premier Lee
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Speaker 3: in Beijing. Of course, there are no meetings scheduled with
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Speaker 3: the US president, but this will be his fourth with China.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps this is why the PMS seem to have nothing
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Speaker 3: to say about anything today except for some of his
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Speaker 3: favorite tried and tested topics China, climate change, steel and
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Speaker 3: iron ore.
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Speaker 4: We know that Steele is the backbone of the modern economy,
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Speaker 4: but we also know that we need to decarbonize these
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Speaker 4: processes if we are going to successfully deal with the
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Speaker 4: challenge of climate change, but also the opportunity that it represents.
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Speaker 3: But God forbid, don't ask him anything about Beijing's human
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Speaker 3: rights and security records.
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Speaker 4: We disagree where we must and we put forward our
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Speaker 4: position clearly. Where we have disagreements, we do that in
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Speaker 4: a way that is consistent with the appropriate way to
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Speaker 4: engage internationally.
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Speaker 1: So we do that.
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Speaker 4: Clearly, unequivocally, each and every time. And this is a
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Speaker 4: relationship though that's very important for Australia.
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Speaker 3: Well, the ALP talking points were not quite committed to
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Speaker 3: memory yet for that word salat now while our PM
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Speaker 3: is in China, the ADF for watching for Chinese spy
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Speaker 3: ships as Australia hosts its largest military exercise, Talisman Saber.
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Speaker 2: But don't ask him about that one either.
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Speaker 4: That would be nothing unusual that has happened in the past.
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Speaker 4: And I'll continue to assert Australia's national interest as I do.
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Speaker 3: Yess what could possibly be unusual about Beijing collecting intelligence?
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Speaker 2: It's all very above board, all very normal. Nothing to
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Speaker 2: see here.
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Speaker 3: I mean, China has been conducting training runs for invading Taiwan,
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Speaker 3: and it's sending spy ships here off our coast to
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Speaker 3: gather as much information about the strengths, weaknesses, and vulnerabilities
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Speaker 3: in our military systems and those of the United States.
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Speaker 3: But no, that's not unusual, just like it wasn't unusual
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Speaker 3: apparently when Beijing conducted live fire drills off our coast.
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Speaker 5: Is it's time to take us down to against China
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Speaker 5: publicly against about their actions.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's important as well, and Defense have confirmed that
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Speaker 4: China did comply with the international law, and that's important
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Speaker 4: to not suggest that that wasn't the case. Well, this
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Speaker 4: is activity that has occurred in m waters consistent with
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Speaker 4: international law. The notification has occurred. It was a Vergin
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Speaker 4: pilot that alerted Australia about the Chinese Li Fi exercise,
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Speaker 4: rather than Defense. The Australian Defense were certainly.
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Speaker 1: Aware.
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Speaker 3: I mean, the CCP could literally be on our land,
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Speaker 3: invading us, and the Prime Minister would release a statement
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Speaker 3: saying there is just nothing unusual about it.
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Speaker 2: Then asked about whether he.
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Speaker 3: Would raise the issue of the Port of Darwin with
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Speaker 3: President she.
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Speaker 4: I will be if it's raised. Our positions very clear
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Speaker 4: and I'm sure that the presidents are very clear and
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Speaker 4: is knowledgeable of that.
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Speaker 3: Well, is it still Labour's intention to return it to
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Speaker 3: Australian hands from a Chinese company.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he can't even bring himself to say it.
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Speaker 3: He will only raise it if it's raised by Communist
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Speaker 3: master Shijing Ping. And while we are at it best
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Speaker 3: not to raise the issue of the United States either,
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Speaker 3: because the Prime Minister doesn't have a position on that either.
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Speaker 6: Does it frustrate you that while you're here we're getting
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Speaker 6: stories leaked out of the Pentagon.
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Speaker 4: Which I'm very focused on my purpose of being here.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean the Pentagon Chief Elbridge Colby is demanding
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Speaker 3: Australia pre commit US supplied submarines to a potential American
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Speaker 3: war with China. He's also asking whether Australia would help
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Speaker 3: the US to defend Taiwan in the event of any
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Speaker 3: conflict with China. America is looking for a return on investment,
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Speaker 3: but Albo is focused on one thing.
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Speaker 4: Are we any closer to locking in a time with
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Speaker 4: President Trump for a meeting? I'm focused here in China.
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Speaker 4: I've been to China twice. Tony Abbott visited Beijing before
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Speaker 4: he visited Washington. After his election, as did Malcolm Fraser,
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Speaker 4: as did Kevin Rudd. So I think there just needs
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Speaker 4: to be a little bit of perspective here as much
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Speaker 4: as you know, I understand the fascination which is there.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I'm glad he brought up those former prime ministers.
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Speaker 3: Tony Abbott met then President Barack Obama in the White House,
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Speaker 3: Kevin Rudd met Barack Obama in the Oval Office, and
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Speaker 3: Malcolm Fraser met President Jimmy Carter at the White House.
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Speaker 3: All have done what Anthony Albanezi has not. Even King
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Speaker 3: Charles has managed to score a meeting with Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: when the President visits Britain in September. And there really
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Speaker 3: is no point asking the Prime Minister anything because he
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Speaker 3: doesn't have a.
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Speaker 2: Position, or he just simply doesn't know.
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Speaker 3: He's focused on China while the relationship with our number one.
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Speaker 2: Ally is crumbling.
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Speaker 3: But have a lesson at the shift in Ton when
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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister is asked about the war in Ukraine.
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Speaker 4: We have a strong position on support for Ukraine and
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Speaker 4: against the illegal and immoral invasion by Russia. That's an
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Speaker 4: example of where conflict leads to economic costs, not just
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Speaker 4: humanitarian costs. The biggest cost, of course and concern there
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Speaker 4: is the devastation that has been caused for innocent Ukrainian civilians.
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Speaker 3: Well, good to know the Prime Minister found a strong
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Speaker 3: position on something today. He is more than willing to
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Speaker 3: support a democratic country like Ukraine when it's attacked by
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Speaker 3: communist Russia, but doesn't have a position when it comes
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Speaker 3: to democratic countries at stake communist China, including our own.
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Speaker 3: So g wouldn't it be great if the Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: took on his own advice.
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, Poplar relations are so.
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Speaker 3: Important exactly, and that is the most sense he's made
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Speaker 3: all day, person to person relations. Now, it's important moments
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Speaker 3: like these on the world stage that make all break leaders.
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Speaker 3: The Prime Minister is so weak on so many topics
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Speaker 3: he just can't answer or he is just too scared
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Speaker 3: to and he hesitates on anything that has not been
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Speaker 3: prescripted in advance by labor. This is a leader of
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Speaker 3: our country refusing to exert any authority on Communist China
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Speaker 3: while alienating our number one ally. Instead, he opts to
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Speaker 3: be a spectator on the world stage. Now, if Albaneze
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Speaker 3: was playing in the A League, he would have been
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Speaker 3: subbed out to the reserves a long time ago, or
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Speaker 3: subbed out altogether.
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Speaker 2: He's a weak player who doesn't know where his allegiances lie.
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Speaker 3: Ask again, what is the purpose of Anthony Alberinizi on
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Speaker 3: the world stage. Joining us now is Lisa Goddard from
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Speaker 3: a Dony Media and Sky News contributor Joe Hilda brand Hi. Hello, good,
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Speaker 3: good to have you both. Got nice to see you both. Now, look,
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Speaker 3: I want to start off with the Prime Minister today, Lisa,
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Speaker 3: as I've just outlined there in your view, did the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister have anything to say about anything today?
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Speaker 7: No, I think you summed it up very nicely there, Danika. Look,
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Speaker 7: he basically stood there. He must have known you have
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Speaker 7: to anticipate the types of questions that you're going to get,
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Speaker 7: and he just simply was not prepared for them. He's
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Speaker 7: over there thinking he's on some spooking tour to promote
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Speaker 7: tourism and to talk about and the mineral's coming out
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Speaker 7: of this country. But he's not actually prepared to answer
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Speaker 7: the tough questions. And the journalists really need to start
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Speaker 7: putting the pressure on him and asking them the really
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Speaker 7: hard questions and watch him squirm even more, because that's
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Speaker 7: the only way we're going to get this Prime Minister
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Speaker 7: to actually stand up and start giving us some serious
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Speaker 7: responses about what is it in talking to China about
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Speaker 7: in relation to tariffs? When's he going to give us some
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Speaker 7: answers around Trump. We're just not getting anything from Melbourne
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Speaker 7: easy at all.
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Speaker 2: No, I conplately agree, Mum, Well you know, Joe.
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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, as I mentioned, he was asked about
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Speaker 3: the Port of Darwin and that is a big one heah,
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Speaker 3: particularly from Chinese ownership.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister brushed.
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Speaker 3: Aside criticisms as well as an influential Chinese bloggers warning
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Speaker 3: that any sale of the port would lead to serious
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Speaker 3: repercussions from China.
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Speaker 2: Have listened to what he said about that.
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Speaker 4: If it's raised, our positions very clear, and I'm sure
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Speaker 4: that the president's very clear and is knowledgeable of that.
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Speaker 4: I'll have a discussion with the President. I'll treat him
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Speaker 4: with the respect that I would any leader of another country.
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Speaker 3: It's not about being disrespectful. This is what I don't
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Speaker 3: think that the Prime Minister understands Joe. But the point
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Speaker 3: is he's saying, well, if President she brings it up,
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Speaker 3: then if he raises it. Why is he so scared
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Speaker 3: to raise these issues himself?
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Speaker 6: Because it's something that we can just do and if
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Speaker 6: China has a problem with it, then they would raise
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Speaker 6: it with us, and so that is the right thing
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Speaker 6: to do. You don't go you're not going to australis.
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Speaker 6: He's not going to walk up to China in China
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Speaker 6: in Beijing and have our Prime Minister to say to
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Speaker 6: their president, who is a thousand times more powerful, haha,
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Speaker 6: we're going to take your port off you. We're going
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Speaker 6: to take your point like that's not how the plomacy
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Speaker 6: works Australia. And he's not going to beat his chest
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Speaker 6: about doing it while he's over there. Because we want
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Speaker 6: to get things out of China. We want them to
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Speaker 6: deliver stuff to us, like for example, their tourists.
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Speaker 2: Should demand respect from China as well.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but we can do it, like again, we will.
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Speaker 6: We will take ownership of the port of Darwin and
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Speaker 6: if China has a problem with it, then it would
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Speaker 6: be up to them to raise it would be up
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Speaker 6: to President Jijingping to raise it with the PM when
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Speaker 6: he speaks to it. There is absolutely no need for
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Speaker 6: or benefit to us doing something antagonistic to the president
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Speaker 6: when we are trying to extract money out of him,
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Speaker 6: frankly in the form of Chinese tourists who have dropped off.
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Speaker 3: That is onwer the question though, about why the Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister is so scared on the world stage when it
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Speaker 3: comes to China. He's scared, he's worried about upsetting China.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many military near misses with China
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Speaker 3: here on home ground. We've got Chinese life fire drawers
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Speaker 3: off the coast earlier this year.
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Speaker 6: But the question is do you want do you want
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Speaker 6: do you want you know, abloviated words, or do you
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Speaker 6: want results? I mean, the truth is Albaneze can jump
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Speaker 6: up and down about these various things in public. That's
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Speaker 6: not going to make the Chinese less likely to do
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Speaker 6: and they don't care. No, people will be saying things
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Speaker 6: and have said things, but they will be doing it
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Speaker 6: through the appropriate back channels. They will be doing it
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Speaker 6: behind closed doors, because of course, when you do, you know,
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Speaker 6: if you try to humiliate China, they're very very sensitive,
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Speaker 6: despite how big and strong and scary they are, and
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Speaker 6: they're very very sensitive and they do things like the
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Speaker 6: retaliatory measures that this influencer this blogger is talking about,
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Speaker 6: and so you want to avoid that. You don't want
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Speaker 6: to court it. But that doesn't mean that doesn't mean
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Speaker 6: rolling over to them. It just means not being a blowhard.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't mean rolling at least I think you want
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Speaker 2: to jump in there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well half back to when the Orchest decision was
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Speaker 7: made and how annoyed the French Prome Minister was French
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Speaker 7: President was in relation to not being kept in the loops.
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Speaker 7: So surely you want to set this up, Joe, when
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Speaker 7: you've got an audience there with Gjuping, Surely you do
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Speaker 7: want to set it up and start warming the Australian
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Speaker 7: electorate up for what's likely to happen, and also Giguping
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Speaker 7: as well. You need to discuss that. Then, if they're
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Speaker 7: so serious about finally getting this port out of Chinese hands,
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Speaker 7: that have to be discussing it with him, and they
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Speaker 7: have to been prepared for what's going to happen. We saw,
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Speaker 7: you know, when we dared to ask questions about COVID,
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Speaker 7: what happened to Australia. You take a port off there
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Speaker 7: when they've got another what eighty five years left on
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Speaker 7: this lease it's not going to be good for Australia.
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Speaker 1: That's right.
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Speaker 6: But they know that that is going to happen.
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Speaker 2: It's not like that.
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Speaker 6: It's not like that's a secret. The whole thing with
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Speaker 6: the Orchest discussions is it was secret until suddenly it
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Speaker 6: came ninn and again, yes, Emmanuel Macron jumped up and
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Speaker 6: down and bleated about it and winged about it, and
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Speaker 6: it did not make one lick of difference because it
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Speaker 6: had already been done. And it's the same with the
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Speaker 6: Port of Dama. The Chinese know our plans for the
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Speaker 6: Port of Dara because it was made public during the
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Speaker 6: election campaign. And indeed they'd probably know anyway because they're
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Speaker 6: crawling all over us with their intelligence machines.
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Speaker 3: So they are crawling all over us, I think, right,
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Speaker 3: crawling all over everything.
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Speaker 2: At the moment.
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Speaker 6: Are you focused on outcomes or are you focused on.
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Speaker 2: I think it goes to more than that.
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Speaker 3: I think we need to be tougher on China from
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Speaker 3: the very beginning, because at the same time we are
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Speaker 3: alienating the United States. But I look forward to seeing
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Speaker 3: what comes out of that meeting tomorrow, of course, with
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Speaker 3: the Chinese President and the Chinese.
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Speaker 2: Premius so let's see.
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Speaker 3: But let's move on to a very chilling story out
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Speaker 3: of Victoria, where an anonymous cell has threatened workers.
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Speaker 2: At a machining manufacturer.
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Speaker 3: A few weeks after, three cars were set a light
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Speaker 3: and anti Semitic messages were grafeeded outside the officers. Now,
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Speaker 3: before we show you this clip, a warning that some
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Speaker 3: viewers may find it disturbing, have a.
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Speaker 2: Look at this.
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Speaker 8: Death to Israel, death to Australia, death to America. From
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Speaker 8: the River to the Sea. Palestine will be free, always was,
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Speaker 8: always will be original land.
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Speaker 2: Lisa, this is a real troubling escalation.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not just disturbing. It's distressing that so many
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Speaker 7: adjectives you could use to describe what's there. But I
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Speaker 7: think this all harks back to we have not been
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Speaker 7: strong to hit back against any Semitism, and so now
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Speaker 7: this is the point we've come to. You've got a
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Speaker 7: company that has more than eighty full time staff according
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Speaker 7: to its website, who must all be living in absolute
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Speaker 7: fear and terror tonight, and not just the employees but
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Speaker 7: their extended family as well. If you've got this video
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Speaker 7: out there saying we will feed this to our underground network,
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Speaker 7: we know your addresses. Each of those people are potential
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Speaker 7: victims of a terror attack. And not only that, you've
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Speaker 7: now got the universities, you should be looking very closely
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Speaker 7: at themselves. They all put up with the encampments. They
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Speaker 7: didn't fight back hard when it came to controlling the
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Speaker 7: anti semitism on site for campuses, and now potentially are
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Speaker 7: we going to see those universities now targeted with.
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Speaker 2: This as well. No, I completely agree with you.
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Speaker 3: I think it's just another example of how anti Semitism
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Speaker 3: has been allowed to become the norm in this country,
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Speaker 3: and then that is the real problem. Now, look, the
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Speaker 3: anti seven Semitism Envoy Gillian Siegel is being harassed by
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Speaker 3: the media after her husband donated money to Advance Australia,
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Speaker 3: which The Canberra Times describes as far right.
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Speaker 6: I'm not sure I describe that terrorist exactly.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure what's so far right about it.
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Speaker 3: But look, Gillian Siegel has denied being involved in the donation,
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Speaker 3: and look, I mean she's saying no one would tolerate
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Speaker 3: her accept my husband dictating my politics, and I certainly
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Speaker 3: won't dictate his. I have had no involvement in his donations,
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Speaker 3: nor will I I mean Joe was if she isn't
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Speaker 3: capable of acting independently of her husband.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a sad example of what often happens
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Speaker 6: for people on the extreme left of whom that masked
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Speaker 6: terrorist I say that advisedly is one hundred percent one
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Speaker 6: And again I would just on that note, this is
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Speaker 6: a blowhard. This is a guy who is a person
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Speaker 6: who is trying to sound really really tough. And the
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Speaker 6: fact that they have to say so many times you know.
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Speaker 1: This is you know, you're afraid? Are you afraid?
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Speaker 6: This is not a joke, you know how serious it is.
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Speaker 6: And then they're just like reciting Twitter hashtags like always was,
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Speaker 6: always will be, and they've got the little Aboriginal and
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Speaker 6: torres straight under flowers, Like what sort of a message
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Speaker 6: do they think they're sending associating indigenous people, First Nations
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Speaker 6: people with absolute f wits like that, what a knob end? Anyway,
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Speaker 6: But on the Gillian Segle staff, again, what's what's your point?
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Speaker 1: Who cares?
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Speaker 6: Who cares what a husband did or didn't do if
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Speaker 6: you've got a problem with her, for example, her anti
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Speaker 6: Semitism report, which I thought was pretty sensible, although you
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Speaker 6: know there are arguments over how much curtailing free speech
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Speaker 6: will actually solve the problem. But whatever, you know, if
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Speaker 6: you like attack the substance, like actually have the argument
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Speaker 6: with the facts instead of just saying, oh, we're not
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Speaker 6: going to listen to you because your husband donated to
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Speaker 6: a group we don't agree with.
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Speaker 2: I agree. Actually who cares? Who cares?
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Speaker 6: And also what feminist solidarity to say that? You know,
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Speaker 6: a woman has beholden to whatever her husband thinks her
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Speaker 6: that she must.
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Speaker 3: Be so offensive on a number of levels. But in
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Speaker 3: the end, she is was appointed to do one job.
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Speaker 3: She was appointed to investigate anti septism in this country.
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Speaker 3: It's got nothing to do what her husband does. It's
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Speaker 3: just another.
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Speaker 2: Absolute beat up. It's ridiculous. Now, look, it's been twelve months.
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Speaker 3: Would you believe since Donald Trump survived an assassination attempt
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Speaker 3: in the lead up to the US election. Remember this
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Speaker 3: if you want to really see something that said, take
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Speaker 3: a look at what happened.
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Speaker 9: Well.
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Speaker 3: The President marked the moment while attending the FIFA Club
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Speaker 3: World Cup Club Final in New Jersey yesterday afternoon. And
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Speaker 3: he's also told reporters today that God was protecting him.
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Speaker 8: God who was protecting me?
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Speaker 1: Maybe because God wanted to see our count think it
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Speaker 1: better or do really well make America great again.
18:58
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a dangerous profession, big president.
19:01
Speaker 2: But I really don't like to think about it too much. Yeah,
19:04
Speaker 2: I've got to say, Lisa, I thought it was interesting.
19:06
Speaker 3: You know, twelve months ago he survives an assassination attempt.
19:09
Speaker 3: Twelve months later he's on stage, he's all excited at
19:12
Speaker 3: that the faith of World Cup in New Jersey just
19:14
Speaker 3: too completely contrasting images.
19:17
Speaker 2: There.
19:17
Speaker 3: Here we go, We've got up on the screen. Now,
19:18
Speaker 3: how things can change so quickly. But you know, Lisa, really,
19:22
Speaker 3: when you think about it, I feel like it was
19:24
Speaker 3: that moment that really changed the trajectory for Donald Trump
19:27
Speaker 3: and helped get him over the line.
19:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, it absolutely was.
19:31
Speaker 7: And look, you know, it's marvelous to think that twelve
19:34
Speaker 7: months ago you had the failed assassination attempt and then
19:36
Speaker 7: today there he is center stage and there was no
19:38
Speaker 7: way that were keeping him out of being front and
19:41
Speaker 7: centered there. It was quite quite comical to watch them
19:43
Speaker 7: try to move Trump to the back of that pack.
19:46
Speaker 7: There was no way he was not going to be
19:48
Speaker 7: in the limelight. And it's in a very strong message
19:50
Speaker 7: to say, I'm here and trial you like, but I'm
19:52
Speaker 7: not going anywhere. So it was quite a good one
19:55
Speaker 7: to watch.
19:55
Speaker 3: I completely agree almost our time, Joe, but your your reflections.
19:58
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll decide to that. Someone actually shot at Donald
20:01
Speaker 6: Trump and he still managed to stay standing while in
20:03
Speaker 6: any fee for soccer match, players just dive even when
20:07
Speaker 6: there's no gun at all, So he did.
20:09
Speaker 1: Well what a contrast, Well.
20:10
Speaker 2: What happens?
20:10
Speaker 3: I guess survived, you know, it was something like that,
20:13
Speaker 3: but no good on him. It was good to see,
20:15
Speaker 3: just very contrasting images. Lisa God Joe hilde Brad.
20:18
Speaker 2: Good to have you both on. Thanks very much for
20:20
Speaker 2: joining me on the show this evening.
20:22
Speaker 3: Well joining me now is One Nation Leader, Senator Pauline Hanson, Senator,
20:27
Speaker 3: thank you very much for joining me on the show.
20:29
Speaker 3: I want to start with the Prime Minister's visit to China.
20:31
Speaker 3: There's obviously plenty of issues to be raising here while
20:34
Speaker 3: he's over there, Taiwan escalating military strength and the Indo.
20:37
Speaker 2: Pacific trade disputes the port of Darwin.
20:40
Speaker 3: But so far the Prime Minister's gone for tourism, sport
20:44
Speaker 3: and decarbonizing steel. Today, you know, I've got to say, Senator,
20:48
Speaker 3: listening to the Prime minister's press conferences, he didn't seem
20:50
Speaker 3: to have a position on anything.
20:52
Speaker 2: One word salad after the other.
20:54
Speaker 3: It was only really comfortable talking about steel and iron
20:57
Speaker 3: or what does it say about this Prime Minister.
21:03
Speaker 9: I think it's a junker trip.
21:04
Speaker 10: And I'd like to know if all the CEOs are
21:06
Speaker 10: paying for their own way over there, in their own accommodation,
21:08
Speaker 10: or is still on the taxpayer, you know, to see
21:11
Speaker 10: twiggy forest over there and pushing this green you know,
21:14
Speaker 10: green steel.
21:14
Speaker 9: And all the rest of it. We can't produce it.
21:17
Speaker 10: They've shut down a lot of the companies here, the
21:21
Speaker 10: hydrogen here, So it's just ridiculous to be pushing this.
21:25
Speaker 9: What's China going to do about it?
21:27
Speaker 10: China is the biggest minist in the world over thirty
21:29
Speaker 10: percent of carbon emissions, and he's pushing this to do
21:33
Speaker 10: green hydrogen or make green steel. It cost you more
21:37
Speaker 10: in electricity and our electricity prices. Know every household out
21:40
Speaker 10: there knows that their electricity price has gone up where
21:43
Speaker 10: they said they'd save two hundred and seventy five dollars
21:45
Speaker 10: a year, or if the electricity bills going back four
21:48
Speaker 10: years ago but now they're paying one thousand dollars more
21:51
Speaker 10: now than what they were, So it's all ridiculous.
21:54
Speaker 9: It's all pie and the sky stuff. He talks about
21:56
Speaker 9: tourism as well.
21:57
Speaker 10: You know, for these people to come out to Australia,
22:01
Speaker 10: you know, I just think that it's been a waste
22:04
Speaker 10: of time. And he goes there for six days, yet
22:07
Speaker 10: he can't make the trip. Well, he went to the USA,
22:10
Speaker 10: which he says, but he was on the West coast
22:12
Speaker 10: and he didn't get to to see Donald Trump, who
22:14
Speaker 10: is an ally, and we're in the Auchest agreement with them,
22:18
Speaker 10: and yet he's there twing to the you know, Shingping.
22:23
Speaker 9: I just don't get it.
22:24
Speaker 10: He's not a leader of this nation. And talk about
22:26
Speaker 10: the Darwin Port Janika, the Darwin port Land Bridge Group
22:31
Speaker 10: that owned the Darwin Port. Right, that is a private company.
22:34
Speaker 10: It is a billionaire that's bought it. Yi Chang, he
22:39
Speaker 10: owns it now.
22:40
Speaker 9: He's a billionaire.
22:41
Speaker 10: Yi Chang has close ties to the Chinese Communist Party.
22:46
Speaker 10: Why is Albanezy then wanting to speak to the Jinping
22:51
Speaker 10: about the Chinese port when it's a privately owned company.
22:54
Speaker 10: Why isn't he talking to Ye Chang about it. So
22:59
Speaker 10: why is he to go to the president over this?
23:03
Speaker 10: So you got to ask those questions as well.
23:05
Speaker 9: The support should never have been sold in the first place.
23:07
Speaker 10: And if they'd got their act together, and it was
23:09
Speaker 10: about one hundred and thirty million dollars, the port was
23:11
Speaker 10: in disrepair. No one in Australia and the government at
23:15
Speaker 10: the time wouldn't line them the money to repair the port.
23:18
Speaker 10: So they went in and on the world market and
23:20
Speaker 10: allowed the Chinese to buy it. It should have been
23:22
Speaker 10: stopped by the Foreign Investment Review Board right from the
23:25
Speaker 10: very beginning. Poor governance in this country. That's why we're
23:29
Speaker 10: in the hell of a mess that we are. And
23:31
Speaker 10: we've got the most poor governance that we have under
23:34
Speaker 10: Alban EASi. And he talks about national security, you know,
23:38
Speaker 10: he hasn't given a defining, you know, to the Americans.
23:44
Speaker 10: Will he support Australia and the Americans if war breaks
23:48
Speaker 10: out with China and Taiwan, with China taking over Taiwan,
23:51
Speaker 10: what are we going to do about the subs?
23:53
Speaker 9: Will the Americans give us the subs now? Because our
23:56
Speaker 9: Prime minister.
23:57
Speaker 10: Won't give you defining you know where he stands with
24:02
Speaker 10: this and I think that the Americans have a right
24:04
Speaker 10: to know, and.
24:05
Speaker 2: You know, I think you raise a good point to meet.
24:06
Speaker 2: You're right, this is a junket.
24:08
Speaker 3: This is he's gone over there to China on nothing
24:11
Speaker 3: more than a junker.
24:12
Speaker 2: And just to expand on what you said there.
24:14
Speaker 3: He was asked today if there's been any progress on
24:17
Speaker 3: a meeting with Donald Trump, and he said his focus
24:19
Speaker 3: is on China. He was asked about the Pentagon's request
24:22
Speaker 3: for a position on Taiwan. He said, his focus is
24:24
Speaker 3: on China. We've got Chinese spy ships circling again because
24:28
Speaker 3: of Talisman Saber. The Prime Minister today said, well, there's
24:31
Speaker 3: nothing unusual about it. So Senator, you've got to wonder
24:34
Speaker 3: what the US must be thinking right now.
24:39
Speaker 9: Exactly right. He's an absolute joke.
24:41
Speaker 10: Our national security is in one hell of a state
24:43
Speaker 10: at the moment because I don't trust the Prime Minister
24:45
Speaker 10: that we have he's where he is leading us, and
24:49
Speaker 10: I think we as a nation and myself as a
24:52
Speaker 10: member of Parliament elected by the people, have a right
24:55
Speaker 10: to know what he's thoughts are, where we are headed
24:58
Speaker 10: with this, and I'd like to see the OP possision
25:01
Speaker 10: step up and say ask more questions with regard to this.
25:04
Speaker 9: We have a right to know.
25:07
Speaker 3: Absolutely, we have a right tonight, I think you're absolutely
25:10
Speaker 3: spot on.
25:10
Speaker 2: I want to move on now.
25:12
Speaker 3: To a leaked Treasury report which is revealed that Labor
25:15
Speaker 3: was advised to hike taxes and slash spending in order
25:19
Speaker 3: to balance the country's books after this year's election, though
25:22
Speaker 3: Jim Chalmers didn't seem to mind.
25:25
Speaker 6: And what's happened here is a Treasury official has sent
25:28
Speaker 6: those documents in error.
25:30
Speaker 2: That sort of thing happens from time to time.
25:32
Speaker 6: I'm pretty relaxed about it, to be honest.
25:35
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you know whether the Treasurer is relaxed
25:37
Speaker 3: about it or not. That the PM certainly shouldn't be,
25:39
Speaker 3: given he's on the record boasting about how meaningful his
25:42
Speaker 3: promises on tax policy are.
25:45
Speaker 4: I believe that when you go to an election and
25:50
Speaker 4: you make commitments, you should stick to my word if my.
25:53
Speaker 3: Bond, Senator, So the Treasurer is relaxed, Albow's word is
25:58
Speaker 3: his bond?
25:59
Speaker 2: Can they would be trusted on taxes? No?
26:05
Speaker 9: And I've said that all along.
26:07
Speaker 10: The only way to run a country is based on
26:10
Speaker 10: prosperity and productivity. Now both those are on the decline.
26:14
Speaker 10: The other way is through taxes. Now they're indicated that
26:17
Speaker 10: with super innovation, tax on unrealized gains, and what's going
26:21
Speaker 10: to happen there is it's hidden within the legislation that
26:26
Speaker 10: the Treasurer will have the right to increase or change
26:29
Speaker 10: it at his whim whenever it suits him. That is
26:32
Speaker 10: very concerning the strange people. I believe that taxes will
26:36
Speaker 10: go up, they'll get the support.
26:38
Speaker 9: Of the Grands.
26:38
Speaker 10: Greens really want to hit people in this country because
26:41
Speaker 10: they say, oh, because you've got the money, you're rich,
26:44
Speaker 10: you should be paying. Yet we allow people to sit
26:47
Speaker 10: on a welfare system in this country for more than five, ten, fifteen,
26:52
Speaker 10: twenty years, thirty years, and we don't question about their
26:55
Speaker 10: contributing to this country, but we just keep paying them
26:58
Speaker 10: welfare and expect those who got out there, got themselves
27:01
Speaker 10: a job, got themselves a decent job, and have to
27:04
Speaker 10: pay the taxes, excessive taxes to support these people who
27:07
Speaker 10: want to sit on.
27:08
Speaker 9: Their backside and do nothing in this country. I've had
27:10
Speaker 9: a gupful of it. I'm sick and tired of it.
27:12
Speaker 10: I don't mind helping those who want the help, but
27:15
Speaker 10: people who think it's their right, god given right to
27:18
Speaker 10: sit around and get welfare assistance, ran assistance, health assistance,
27:22
Speaker 10: everything and not made work after.
27:24
Speaker 9: Twenty or thirty years on it. I have a real
27:26
Speaker 9: problem with that.
27:27
Speaker 10: So Charmers has to put on that Act Daneka because
27:31
Speaker 10: it's our blase of also what these things happen.
27:35
Speaker 9: But it is the truth has been let out. They've
27:38
Speaker 9: pushed this one point.
27:39
Speaker 10: Two million homes. It's unrealized. It's never going to happen.
27:44
Speaker 10: They went into the elect election they knew it. Economists
27:47
Speaker 10: and myself and others than for Parliament have told them
27:51
Speaker 10: that their spending was out of control. It was their
27:54
Speaker 10: homes would never be built. But they took the lie
27:56
Speaker 10: to their strand people and that's what they won this election.
28:00
Speaker 9: And on people have a right.
28:01
Speaker 10: They are deceitful, they're liars. They won the selection through
28:05
Speaker 10: lies and a seat, and I believe that they should
28:08
Speaker 10: be actually questioned over the whole lot.
28:11
Speaker 2: Yeah.
28:11
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And even the master Builders has been having warning
28:14
Speaker 3: for so long that they just don't wonder. They don't
28:16
Speaker 3: have that demand power to get to this record number
28:20
Speaker 3: of homes that Labour wants to build.
28:22
Speaker 2: We don't have the utensils right now. So it's been
28:24
Speaker 2: a joke from the beginning before I let you go.
28:26
Speaker 3: National MP Barnaby Joyce has vowed to introduce a private
28:29
Speaker 3: member's bill in an attempt to end Labour's net zero policies.
28:32
Speaker 2: Here he was on Deneka and James last night. Have
28:34
Speaker 2: a listen.
28:35
Speaker 6: I've been fighting for this for so long, but I
28:37
Speaker 6: think it's got to a point we've actually got to say, okay,
28:40
Speaker 6: let's see where we vote.
28:41
Speaker 2: Or more to the point, if.
28:43
Speaker 1: You don't even want to vote, if you don't even
28:46
Speaker 1: have you're so courageous about about the climate, but you
28:50
Speaker 1: won't even have the debate in the partmouth. I believe
28:53
Speaker 1: they won't even have the debate in the partment.
28:55
Speaker 2: Well, Senator, I say, good on him.
28:58
Speaker 10: What do you think, Yeah, so do I good on
29:02
Speaker 10: him because that's been my policy right from day one.
29:05
Speaker 9: Get rid of it, get out of the Paris agreement.
29:07
Speaker 9: So good on Barnaby.
29:08
Speaker 10: You know what, I doubt whether you'll get it second
29:11
Speaker 10: at a tour and if he does, I'll probably be throwing
29:13
Speaker 10: out of the party.
29:13
Speaker 9: You know what, Barnaby, come over.
29:15
Speaker 10: To my party because we need people like you with
29:18
Speaker 10: backbone to stand up and fight these issues you won't
29:21
Speaker 10: get from you from your so called colleagues because they
29:24
Speaker 10: haven't got the backbone to actually stand up to strain
29:27
Speaker 10: people in the way. This country is going down the
29:29
Speaker 10: bloody drain. So you know, no problems. And I hope
29:33
Speaker 10: if one Nation was there on the Lower House, we'd
29:35
Speaker 10: be standing beside him affording him.
29:38
Speaker 2: Well, there you go. The office stands.
29:39
Speaker 3: If Barnaby Joyce is watching tonight, the office stands to
29:43
Speaker 3: head over to one Nation. I guess now that he's
29:45
Speaker 3: no longer the bench, you never know what might happen.
29:47
Speaker 3: So to Pauline Hanson, always nice to chat with you.
29:50
Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time on the show
29:52
Speaker 3: this evening.
29:52
Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. We'll stay with us. Coming up after
29:55
Speaker 2: the break, just into Nampa Jim.
29:56
Speaker 3: For Prices fired up because the Prime Minister has his
29:59
Speaker 3: head in the sand on defense. She's got lots to
30:02
Speaker 3: say on orcast defense spending and Elbow's appalling Taiwan response.
30:06
Speaker 2: That's coming up later.
30:07
Speaker 3: But next Radio Legend Ray Hadlee will join me live.
30:14
Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program, and joining me now is
30:16
Speaker 3: Radio Legend Ray Hadley. Ray Good to see you. Thank
30:19
Speaker 3: you very much for joining me on the show this evening.
30:21
Speaker 1: Well the Negro. It's wonderful to be here. I'm surrounded
30:24
Speaker 1: by intelligent, outstanding young women. Oh, thank you, fantastic, Thank
30:30
Speaker 1: you very much.
30:30
Speaker 2: I so appreciate that coming from you. That's very kind.
30:32
Speaker 2: But we've got a lot to talk about, don't we.
30:34
Speaker 2: Where do we begin?
30:35
Speaker 3: We've got to start with Anthony Alberze's visit to China.
30:38
Speaker 2: Of course, you know it's at an awkward time when.
30:40
Speaker 3: The US wants clarity over our position when it comes
30:43
Speaker 3: to Taiwan. But you've got the Prime Minister over there
30:45
Speaker 3: brimming with glee ray, you know, trying to figure out
30:48
Speaker 3: how to make still better for the environment.
30:51
Speaker 2: That's the priority.
30:52
Speaker 1: Well, I think at best, the Prime Minister is a
30:54
Speaker 1: Labor Party hack who's been promoted beyond the station in life.
30:57
Speaker 1: And you see that when he goes on the world stage.
30:59
Speaker 1: You can get away with it here, how fellow well met.
31:02
Speaker 1: But when he's got to make a decision on whether
31:04
Speaker 1: he's going to offend our biggest trading partner or offend
31:08
Speaker 1: our most close ally, he can't make up his mind
31:11
Speaker 1: and indecision in this type of area is it just
31:14
Speaker 1: paralyzes us. We want a leader, we want someone, you know,
31:18
Speaker 1: and then mixed messages. He's got ministers saying, oh, well
31:21
Speaker 1: will decide who we declare war on. Well, if Taiwan
31:24
Speaker 1: falls and the Americans go after them, the China is well,
31:28
Speaker 1: I know what side we have to be on. It's
31:31
Speaker 1: fairly simple. And he won't enunciate that. He sort of
31:35
Speaker 1: ducks and weaves and it's just not a statesman he is,
31:41
Speaker 1: you know. And the worst part is the Niko. We
31:43
Speaker 1: got him for six more years because the other mob,
31:46
Speaker 1: what are we two months on for the election? All
31:49
Speaker 1: they want to do is talk about themselves, gender quators,
31:52
Speaker 1: Julian Lisa wants to talk about Oh, let's do how
31:55
Speaker 1: they do it in the United States of America to
31:57
Speaker 1: choose candidates. I mean, get back to work. There's that
32:01
Speaker 1: many things you can tear the government a part about.
32:03
Speaker 1: But while ever you're looking at yourselves, the public just
32:07
Speaker 1: stand there mystified. Then you get lapped back in May,
32:11
Speaker 1: we're up the July. How about some policies. How about
32:14
Speaker 1: attacking Cassano Berbowen about his power policies? How about really
32:19
Speaker 1: ripping and tearing about what's happening in China at the moment,
32:23
Speaker 1: and all we get from the Liberal Party, not the
32:25
Speaker 1: National Party, the Liberal Party is oh, what can we
32:29
Speaker 1: do better? How can we be more popular? I mean,
32:32
Speaker 1: get your sleeves rolled up and do something. Stop looking
32:36
Speaker 1: about yourselves and talking about yourselves.
32:38
Speaker 2: Well, actually I wanted.
32:39
Speaker 3: To ask you about that, because you know, the Liberals
32:42
Speaker 3: are floating this idea of a US style primaries. You know,
32:45
Speaker 3: and the problem with this is you've got it means
32:47
Speaker 3: till voters green voters can all decide who should be
32:51
Speaker 3: up for pre selection.
32:52
Speaker 2: It's just bizarre. But I want to show you this.
32:55
Speaker 3: Julia Lisa wrote an opinion piece in the Ods today.
32:57
Speaker 3: He said the Liberal Party is but must be seen
33:02
Speaker 3: to be a party open to our community, where people with.
33:04
Speaker 2: Talent have a clear, fair pathway to step forward.
33:07
Speaker 3: That's why since the mid two thousands I've advocated for
33:09
Speaker 3: the need to trial US style primaries. Well, ray, how
33:13
Speaker 3: is this going to have help the average person out
33:15
Speaker 3: there who can't pay their bills?
33:17
Speaker 1: Look to apps look like he's an intelligent black I think,
33:21
Speaker 1: Jullian Lisa. But he must have got concust or something
33:24
Speaker 1: when he decided this a number of years ago, and
33:26
Speaker 1: keep pushing it. So, Julian, you're going to ask the
33:29
Speaker 1: Teals and the Greens to gather and decide who would
33:33
Speaker 1: be the best candidate to represent the Liberal Party at
33:35
Speaker 1: the next federal election, you must be stark, raving, mad mate.
33:39
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's not perfect the way they do
33:42
Speaker 1: it at the moment. It's in fact laughable in some
33:45
Speaker 1: you know, particularly here in New South Wales where we reside.
33:49
Speaker 1: But to think that you're going to hust people from
33:51
Speaker 1: the Labor Party, from the Greens and from the Teals
33:54
Speaker 1: to actually cast a vote on they'll run dead, They'll
33:58
Speaker 1: pick the worst candidate.
33:59
Speaker 2: Well that's a problem.
34:00
Speaker 1: Although to be fair, they couldn't do any worse job
34:03
Speaker 1: than the Liberal Party's done themselves in picking the worst candidate.
34:06
Speaker 2: Yeah.
34:06
Speaker 1: So, but it's a nonsense. I mean, for goodness sake, Julian,
34:11
Speaker 1: stop talking about this nonsense and get back the policies,
34:14
Speaker 1: ol mate.
34:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you.
34:17
Speaker 3: And the more that they just talk about themselves, the
34:20
Speaker 3: more you've got Anthony albineasy on the world stage being
34:23
Speaker 3: allowed to be a lunatic on the world stage, or
34:25
Speaker 3: a lunatic on other issues because.
34:26
Speaker 2: There's nobody there attacking him. That's the problem.
34:29
Speaker 1: Well, every day they talk about themselves extends his primeariership
34:33
Speaker 1: by another day. I mean, get with it, get with
34:38
Speaker 1: it and stop talking about yourselves and stop coming up
34:40
Speaker 1: with crazy ideas. I mean, rollles, leaves up and do
34:44
Speaker 1: it the work.
34:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I completely agree.
34:45
Speaker 3: Now, Look, I want to talk to you about the
34:47
Speaker 3: situation in Victoria where there's a dreadful chant this death
34:50
Speaker 3: to the idea of It's like it's been important ray
34:52
Speaker 3: into Australia since Glastonbury. We've had protesters over the weekend
34:57
Speaker 3: in Melbourne. They were chanting it at a rally and
35:00
Speaker 3: so swatstickers and Nazi symbols on display.
35:03
Speaker 2: Ray.
35:03
Speaker 3: You remember last week the premier over there just Cincarell
35:06
Speaker 3: and she announced an anti hate task Force. That was
35:08
Speaker 3: how she was going to deal with all the issues.
35:11
Speaker 3: He wondered with this constitute hate under the anti hate
35:14
Speaker 3: task Force.
35:14
Speaker 1: Well, it's work, well, hasn't it. The first week of
35:17
Speaker 1: the anti hate task Force. Look, I mentioned Ashari a
35:22
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and with all due respect to
35:25
Speaker 1: many of the people protesting, in fact, all the people protesting,
35:27
Speaker 1: they've never heard of a thing called crystal mark. That's
35:30
Speaker 1: when the Nazis in the nineteen thirties went about destroying
35:33
Speaker 1: Jewish businesses and basically wanting to exterminate the Jewish people,
35:37
Speaker 1: as they later did during the war. So we've got
35:40
Speaker 1: our own form of crystal mark happening, you know in
35:44
Speaker 1: Melbourne and sometimes in Sydney as well. But Melbourne seems
35:46
Speaker 1: to be captain, catch and sole selector of anti Semitism
35:50
Speaker 1: at the moment. And it's this is where leaderships required.
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Speaker 1: This is what the Liberal Party could talk about over
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Speaker 1: and over and over again and do it sincerely. Because
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Speaker 1: the government, both the federal government the labor government in Victoria,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's in their DNA to support the Palestinians,
36:09
Speaker 1: and you know the Palestinians in some respects duties of support,
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Speaker 1: but they keep forgetting and Penny Wong in particular, Gaza
36:17
Speaker 1: has a terrorist organization as the executive government HAMS, that's
36:22
Speaker 1: who runs the place ha Mas And so why wouldn't
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Speaker 1: people react in this particular way because they're allowed to
36:30
Speaker 1: do it. And we've had a bit of handwringing from
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Speaker 1: October seven coming up for two years from the labor government,
36:37
Speaker 1: the federal labor government. I'm sure the liberal labor governments
36:40
Speaker 1: are saying the labor government in Victoria's the same, but
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Speaker 1: not much has done about it, and these people are
36:45
Speaker 1: allowed to get away with it. I mean, the equivalent
36:49
Speaker 1: to the public Order rights squad in Victoria should be
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Speaker 1: rounding these people up, and if they have to get
36:53
Speaker 1: a little bit physical, they've got to get a bit physical,
36:56
Speaker 1: because we can't have this no.
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Speaker 3: And the other thing is is but we're on my
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Speaker 3: how time just before we let you go, Let's not
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Speaker 3: forget that the Prime Minister's got all these recommendations sitting
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Speaker 3: on his desk right now from the anti Semitism Envoy,
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Speaker 3: which he appointed to put an investor to make an
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Speaker 3: investigation into anti Semitism. Well, those recommendations rage are sitting there.
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Speaker 1: She's done an outstanding job, an outstanding job, and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to say much of it is just what you'd
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Speaker 1: call pure common sense. And like you say, he's having
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Speaker 1: his fourth meeting with the Chinese leader, hasn't cracked it
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Speaker 1: for a chat with the Trumpster quite yet, and is
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Speaker 1: doing and frying about whether he'll support China or the
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Speaker 1: United States of America. If they go to battle Labor Taiwan.
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Speaker 1: It's a mess, a real mess. But he's allowed to
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Speaker 1: get away with it because, as you pointed out, Deniga,
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Speaker 1: there's no one in opposition shouting from the rooftops. Wake
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Speaker 1: up to yourself. They're too worried about themselves.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, and that's exactly the problem. Ray Hadley, really nice
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Speaker 2: to chat with you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for my pleasure.
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Speaker 2: Thanks very much, appreciated it. Well.
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Speaker 3: Coming up with Orcas still up in the air and
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Speaker 3: defense spending still trailing, how much failure can the labor
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Speaker 3: government manage when it comes to defending this country. Shadow
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Speaker 3: Minister for Defense Industry Nampajim for Price will join me
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Speaker 3: live from Alice Springs right after this break.
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Speaker 2: You won't want to miss it. Welcome back. Well.
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Speaker 3: As a Prime Minister gallivants around China talking tourism, decarbonizing
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Speaker 3: steel and sport. Trouble is brewing in the United States,
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Speaker 3: with Anthony Aberesi still failing to get any assurances on
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Speaker 3: the orcast steel, and of course reports last week that
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Speaker 3: the Pentagon is considering making Australia pay more for submarines
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Speaker 3: under the agreement. Joining me now is Shadow Minister for
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Speaker 3: Defense Industry, Senator Jacinta Nampajim for Price Senator, really good.
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Speaker 2: To catch up with you. Thank you for joining me
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Speaker 2: on the show this evening.
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Speaker 3: Aside from the fact the Prime Minister can't even get
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Speaker 3: a meeting with the US President, how concerned should we
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Speaker 3: be that Anthony Aberenesi has failed to get any assurances
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Speaker 3: on Orcas.
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Speaker 2: Oh look, thanks for having me, Denika.
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Speaker 11: It is deeply concerning the fact that the Prime Minister
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Speaker 11: has failed to speak to the President of the US
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Speaker 11: Donald Trump. He's now been in the office for two
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Speaker 11: hundred and fifty one days and yet the Prime Minister
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Speaker 11: manages to catch up with of course ggping on.
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Speaker 2: A regular basis.
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Speaker 11: You know, the August Deal was something that we put
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Speaker 11: in place and was paramount, you know, to our circumstances geopolitically,
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Speaker 11: and it is deeply concerning that our Prime Minister has
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Speaker 11: not been able to get assurances for the August Deal
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Speaker 11: going ahead. What is concerning is the fact that this
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister, as Alexander rightly points it out, seems to
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Speaker 11: be retreating as opposed to ensuring that our relationships well,
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Speaker 11: our relationship with our closest ally the US continues to
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Speaker 11: be strong given the circumstances that we're faced with, which
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Speaker 11: you know, we haven't been in such a position since
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Speaker 11: World War Two. And you know, the Prime Minister really
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Speaker 11: needs to tell the Australian people what is it he
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Speaker 11: is doing. Is he does he have the interests of
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Speaker 11: our nation at the forefront of the decisions that he's
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Speaker 11: currently making.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a good question, and you know it's clear
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Speaker 3: that his failure to get a handle on this relationship
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Speaker 3: is proving costly. Labor as we know, refuse the White
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Speaker 3: House's request to lift defense spending as virtually all NATO
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Speaker 3: member states have. Senator, This is despite plenty of strategic
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Speaker 3: and foreign affairs experts consistently warning of the potential consequences
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Speaker 3: of not doing so.
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Speaker 2: What could this mean for Australia. Yeah, look, I mean.
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Speaker 11: Put aside the fact that you know, what I keep
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Speaker 11: wondering is this Prime minister why you know, he's trying
40:52
Speaker 11: to show himself as some kind of player on the
40:54
Speaker 11: world stage that it can stand up to the likes
40:57
Speaker 11: of someone like Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: But put aside Donald try for a minute.
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Speaker 11: As you've said, allies are also lifting their own GDP
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Speaker 11: spend on their defense and at the same time our
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Speaker 11: Prime Minister is refusing to go beyond two point four percent.
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Speaker 11: The only world leader that has sought has expressed that
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Speaker 11: we shouldn't be lifting our defense spend. Of course again
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Speaker 11: is ggping. Again another great concern, because we know that
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Speaker 11: when it comes to defense we are underfunded when it
41:31
Speaker 11: comes to things like our northern basis, our drone technology,
41:36
Speaker 11: our ship sustainment, and also in terms of our recruitment.
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Speaker 11: I mean we are below in terms of our recruitment
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Speaker 11: in the thousands.
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Speaker 2: And the fact that our Prime Minister.
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Speaker 11: Won't even listen to our own Australian experts when it
41:53
Speaker 11: comes to the need to lift the spend to at
41:56
Speaker 11: least three percent in terms of GDP toward our defense.
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Speaker 11: That is again one more grave concern.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister is failing.
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Speaker 11: Australia in terms of our defense at such a critical time.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and there's that.
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Speaker 3: But also I want to ask you about a recent
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Speaker 3: report from the Australian National Audit Office which found significant
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Speaker 3: deficiencies in the maintenance of two landing helicopter dock vessels,
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Speaker 3: and also that Defense Minister Richard Marles hadn't properly been
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Speaker 3: brief for two and a half years about their readiness
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Speaker 3: for deployment. Firstly, Senator, how is it that the minister
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Speaker 3: in charge knows nothing? And secondly, if we can't maintain
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Speaker 3: our existing equipment, how can we seriously be prepared for war?
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, we have seen the China's aggression
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Speaker 11: toward us in recent times and what we keep hearing
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Speaker 11: from the Prime Minister and from the Minister of Defense
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Speaker 11: is rehetoric around what is actually occurring. I mean, the
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Speaker 11: Defense Minister had not had any briefing from the department,
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Speaker 11: from the Department of Defense for two and a half
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Speaker 11: years with regard to this latest report, when he should
43:15
Speaker 11: be receiving reports on a regular basis, as regularly as
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Speaker 11: six months. Every six months. This government is utterly asleep
43:27
Speaker 11: at the wheel and is playing with the lives of
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Speaker 11: Australians while they are asleep at the wheel. This is
43:34
Speaker 11: absolutely not good enough for our country, for our defense.
43:39
Speaker 11: And you know what, Dnaka, I mean, we really need
43:42
Speaker 11: to get back into I've been champing at the bit
43:44
Speaker 11: to get back into Parliament so that we can put
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Speaker 11: this Prime Minister and his ministers and his defense minister
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Speaker 11: on notice and start pushing the hard questions on them
43:55
Speaker 11: why they are not doing the right thing by our
43:58
Speaker 11: country in terms of our in terms of our defense,
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Speaker 11: particularly at this very critical time in global history.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, well, you won't have to wait too long. Next
44:08
Speaker 3: week couldn't come soon enough. We're almost out of time, Senator,
44:11
Speaker 3: But just really quickly on Taiwan, was the US right
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Speaker 3: to ask what we would do if China goes to war?
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Speaker 11: Look, I think the ambiguity around that is that the
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Speaker 11: US obviously hasn't stated to us what they would do
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Speaker 11: under those circumstances, So without knowing where they would sit
44:32
Speaker 11: in terms of, you know, speaking about what is I
44:38
Speaker 11: think it's right to sort of wait until they can
44:40
Speaker 11: provide a sort of a scenario or an understanding of
44:43
Speaker 11: where they might sit before we decide to take that approach.
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Speaker 2: It's a bit of give and take. But as you
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Speaker 2: can see, under these.
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Speaker 11: Circumstances, with a way in which our prime minister is behaving,
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Speaker 11: it's no wonder that the US are concerned about where
44:59
Speaker 11: our prime minister might sit with any of all of this.
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Speaker 3: No, I absolutely agree, and I wonder they're asking questions
45:04
Speaker 3: about our allegiances. Senator just sint Napa, jimber Price, It's
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Speaker 3: been really good to see you.
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Speaker 2: Thanks very much for joining me on the show this evening.
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Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
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Speaker 3: Coming up after the break, a bombshell report identifies the
45:14
Speaker 3: failings that led to last year's attempt on President Donald
45:16
Speaker 3: Trump's life.
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Speaker 2: A cascade of Secret Service failings, how appalling.
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Speaker 3: Skynyer's contributor, Kosher Garter, will join me live after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Well.
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Speaker 3: On the twelfth month anniversary of the attempted assassination of
45:31
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, a congressional inquiry into the incident has found
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Speaker 3: inexcusable failures in the Secret Services operations and response, calling
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Speaker 3: for more serious discipline reaction. Let's bring in Skyny's contributor,
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Speaker 3: Kosher Garden our kosher welcome look.
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Speaker 2: Firstly, this report.
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Speaker 3: Has found a multiple failures, a litany of failures. We
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Speaker 3: knew at the time, of course, about the DEI in
45:52
Speaker 3: the Secret Service. We've all seen the footage of the
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Speaker 3: slow response. What do you take mostly from this report?
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Speaker 5: Yes, I think DEI was something that bubbled up to
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Speaker 5: the surface right away after that that remains, but there
46:06
Speaker 5: are lots of tactical errors as well that came out
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Speaker 5: from it, such as the Trump team had requested more
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Speaker 5: resources because there was an elevated threat at that time
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Speaker 5: against his life and they had good intel on that,
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Speaker 5: and those threats were denied. Then Director Cheetle Kim Cheadle
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Speaker 5: actually lied under oath and deny that and then later
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Speaker 5: reversed it and resigned infamously. There were other issues such
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Speaker 5: as how did the shooter get access to the rooftop tactically?
46:30
Speaker 5: Like why was that a line of sight to the
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Speaker 5: president on stage not addressed properly? How was he able
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Speaker 5: to gain access to the premises with a gun and
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Speaker 5: a rifle in his hand as he did and twenty
46:41
Speaker 5: seven minutes before he entered Apparently this report says he
46:45
Speaker 5: had been sighted and somebody had raised that, but that
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Speaker 5: communication just broke down and nothing was done about it.
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Speaker 5: He was an apprehended in any such way, so on
46:53
Speaker 5: and so forth. And then the biggest thing I think
46:54
Speaker 5: that's making a lot of people angry right now is
46:56
Speaker 5: nobody has been held accountable. Not a single person has
46:59
Speaker 5: been fired. Supposedly, there are six people who've been disciplined
47:02
Speaker 5: and were benched for a couple of months.
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Speaker 2: Without pay.
47:05
Speaker 5: But that feels grossly inadequate for this event that could
47:08
Speaker 5: have taken out President Trump and changed the arch of history.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely you spot on. Now.
47:13
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is confirmed he'll get to the UK after
47:16
Speaker 3: an invitation from King Charles, who'll be there for three
47:19
Speaker 3: days in September in what will be the US president's
47:21
Speaker 3: second state visit Ja Kosher. You know, King Charles manages
47:25
Speaker 3: to get a meeting with Donald Trump, get our Prime
47:27
Speaker 3: minister can't. He's still flying around everywhere else except for Washington.
47:34
Speaker 5: You know, one wonders is it because he can't or
47:37
Speaker 5: because he doesn't want it, and he's decided to just
47:40
Speaker 5: resign himself to being reactive rather than proactive as it
47:43
Speaker 5: relates to dealing with Trump and getting favorable terms on
47:45
Speaker 5: tariffs and everything else.
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Speaker 9: Who knows.
47:47
Speaker 5: Nobody does state visits the way the monarchy and the
47:50
Speaker 5: British royal family do, so I think he's playing in fairness.
47:54
Speaker 5: He's playing from a totally different plane, and Trump certainly
47:58
Speaker 5: loves that he did it. Of course with the late
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Speaker 5: Queen Elizabeth the ICID. He understands the significance of these
48:03
Speaker 5: meetings in terms of iconography and photography for the history
48:06
Speaker 5: books and all the rest of it. So I think
48:08
Speaker 5: he is very pleased with that and looking forward to that,
48:11
Speaker 5: whereas for our Prime Minister, I think it sort of
48:14
Speaker 5: feels like junior varsity and not really playing at the
48:17
Speaker 5: big boys table.
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Speaker 2: No, I completely agree.
48:19
Speaker 3: Just finally, the President Trump still can't get away from
48:21
Speaker 3: backlash over his administration's handling of the Epstein files.
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Speaker 2: What's going on.
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Speaker 5: This story is not going away as much as he
48:30
Speaker 5: would like it to. And it's really not because of
48:33
Speaker 5: the case itself or Epstein himself and his various proclivities,
48:37
Speaker 5: but it's because of what it represents, which is transparency
48:40
Speaker 5: and justice. And this is something that Trump ran on.
48:42
Speaker 5: People are fed up with the lack of transparency in
48:45
Speaker 5: government institutions in general. This case really is a microcosm
48:48
Speaker 5: of that. There's so many unanswered questions. The way it
48:51
Speaker 5: was rolled out and the way ag Pambondi handled it
48:53
Speaker 5: was totally botched, and people are not going to I think,
48:56
Speaker 5: stop beating the drum until there's something better than let's
48:58
Speaker 5: sweep this under the rugs. Nothing to see here because
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Speaker 5: his beast, in particular, it's not flying with them.
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Speaker 2: No in between, you know, Pam Bondi, the Department of Justice.
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Speaker 3: One saying one thing, one saying another thing. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 3: not going away, that's for sure. Kosher Garda, good to
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Speaker 3: see you. Thank you so much for joining me on
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Speaker 3: the show this evening. Thank you for your company. I'll
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Speaker 3: be back again tomorrow night. Now it's time for James
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Speaker 3: Morrow hosting Paul Murray in the man Cave.