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Did 'Porny' Mormon Dentist Charged With Poisoning Wife Dead TRICK CHURCH MEMBERS? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. More details emerging about a
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Speaker 1: seemingly mild mannered family practice dentist. His wife turns up
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Speaker 1: dead in the hospital. Oh what a tangled web we
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Speaker 1: weave when first we practice to deceive. Wait till you
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Speaker 1: hear this. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thanks
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Speaker 1: for being with us here at Fox Nation and Serious
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Speaker 1: X one eleven. First of all, take a listen to
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Speaker 1: our friends at ABC. James a dentist at summer Brook
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Speaker 1: Dental Group in Aurora, seen here in this promotional video.
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Speaker 1: My approach to dentistry begins with sincerely listening to the patient,
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Speaker 1: his patiency. They relied on him to ease their anxiety.
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Speaker 1: He always made sure that I was okay and comfortable.
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Speaker 1: And now I think my anxiety is even more because
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Speaker 1: I'm like, who do I trust? Okay, There's going to
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Speaker 1: be a lot more problems other than his dental patience,
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Speaker 1: wondering who can I trust? Listen to this. James Craig
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Speaker 1: joined Summerbrook Dental in Aurora, Colorado, in two thousand and
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Speaker 1: six after getting a degree from the University of Missouri
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Speaker 1: Kansas City. James and his wife Angela are the proud
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Speaker 1: parents of six children between the ages of eight and
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Speaker 1: twenty five, girls and a boy. Angela loves posting pictures
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Speaker 1: on social media showing the family as their camping or
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Speaker 1: mountain biking, traveling, and visiting theme parks. Neighbors think highly
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Speaker 1: of the family, and friends admire how they balance work
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Speaker 1: in a very large family. While Angela posts happy family
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Speaker 1: photos on Facebook, she shares a very different picture of
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Speaker 1: what's going on in their family with her sister. For years,
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Speaker 1: Angela has been the doting wife married to the successful
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Speaker 1: dentist with six children. But the fact is her husband
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Speaker 1: has been addicted to pornography since he was a teenager.
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Speaker 1: He hasn't been a faith full husband. The dental clinic
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Speaker 1: filed for bankruptcy, and even though their finances that the
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Speaker 1: dental office and at home are in dire straits, James
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Speaker 1: recently blew two thousand dollars on a gambling bing. Okay,
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Speaker 1: well wait, it's bad enough to be addicted to porn,
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Speaker 1: but now this dentist is messing with the family money. Okay,
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Speaker 1: bad goes to worse. Listen to our friends at GMA.
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Speaker 1: Last Wednesday, police say Angela went to University Hospital in Aurora.
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Speaker 1: She complained of a severe headache and dizziness. That same day,
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Speaker 1: Craig's business partner at the dental practice told the nurse
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Speaker 1: he thought Angela had been poisoned. A few days earlier,
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Speaker 1: an employee saw potassium cyanide and a package addressed to Craig.
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Speaker 1: The box was shipped to his dentist office in Aurora.
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Speaker 1: The employee searched potassium cyanide when she learned Angela was
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Speaker 1: sick and realized she had symptoms similar to a poisoning,
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Speaker 1: and after multiple recent hospital visits, Angela again checked into
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Speaker 1: a hospital Wednesday morning, complaining of a severe headache and dizziness.
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Speaker 1: Around two pm, she had a seizure, her condition rapidly declining,
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Speaker 1: doctors moving her to the ICU, where she was put
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Speaker 1: on life support before passing away Saturday. Also hearing from
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Speaker 1: our friends at KUSA before I bring in an all
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Speaker 1: star panel, just one more thing, Let me just put
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Speaker 1: the cherry on top of the cake for you. In
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Speaker 1: addition to his porn addiction and blowing all the money,
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Speaker 1: I mean really the family money. You know what, if
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Speaker 1: you're not going to help me, don't hurt me, don't
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Speaker 1: spend all the family money gambling for Pete say well,
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Speaker 1: to top it off, he's definitely cheating. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to our friends at crime online. According to the affidavit,
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Speaker 1: while his wife Angela is fighting for her life in
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Speaker 1: the hospital, her devoted husband is emailing his mistress. Those
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Speaker 1: emails suggested that James told her something had happened to Angela,
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Speaker 1: and according to the affidavit, she reportedly responded with how
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Speaker 1: sorry she was for him and that she wished she
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Speaker 1: was helping him, not pulling him away. She stated she
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Speaker 1: knew it had to be so hard what he was
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Speaker 1: going through, and that she wanted to be there for him,
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Speaker 1: but did not want to mix with his family and
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Speaker 1: friends and pretend to be only a friend when there
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Speaker 1: was something more. She wants to help him, then leave
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Speaker 1: him alone, let him work on his relationship with his
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Speaker 1: wife and his family. Oh never mind, he can't do that.
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Speaker 1: His wife's dead. Joining me in all Star, Pelle, I
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Speaker 1: want to go first to the chief reporter at dailymail
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Speaker 1: dot com. This is Jen Smith. Jen Smith, the muses
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Speaker 1: coming fast and furious from of all people, a family
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Speaker 1: practiced dentist. You don't really think of a dentist as
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Speaker 1: being a philanderer, a cheater, porn addicted and blowing all
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Speaker 1: the money. I mean, when I will never look at
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Speaker 1: my dentist the same way again, we'll not say. I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: the pieces of this very sad puzzle are really start
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Speaker 1: seemed to come together. No, Nancy, we knew that there
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Speaker 1: was a mistress. We knew that there were some financial trouble,
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Speaker 1: but this really just takes it into a whole different league.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Jim, I don't really agree with everything
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Speaker 1: you say, but you know, calling her a mistress is
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Speaker 1: kind of putting perfume on the pig. This is a
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Speaker 1: guy with six children. He is a sole financial support
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Speaker 1: for this family, and she's holding up in a hotel
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Speaker 1: with him. Really, mistress seems kind of ephimistic. Do you
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Speaker 1: agree or disagree with that his mistress? Well? Perhaps, I mean, look,
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Speaker 1: however way you slice it, he was cheating on his wife.
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Speaker 1: He was with a woman he shouldn't have been with.
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Speaker 1: That's maybe the most generous way to phrase it, certainly
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Speaker 1: the most polite way to praise it for your listeners. Polite,
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Speaker 1: that's a lot. I don't think our listeners were talking
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Speaker 1: about murder. Are hung up on calling her worse than
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Speaker 1: a mistress. Let's go to doctor Patricia Wallace, licensed Marriage
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Speaker 1: and Family therapists. You can find her at doctor pc
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Speaker 1: Wallace Therapy dot com. Doctor Wallace, he's bad enough, all right.
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Speaker 1: He is the worst because he's the one that had
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Speaker 1: the duty to the wife and the six children. But
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Speaker 1: she ain't no saint either. She's got children and she
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Speaker 1: knows what she's doing. I mean, doctor, with all the
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Speaker 1: men out there, all the men in the world, why
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Speaker 1: pick one with a wife and six children. That's the
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Speaker 1: same thing. When I was reading it, it's something in
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Speaker 1: his behavior that obviously she was attracted to. And it
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Speaker 1: could have been my opinion only, but it's something I
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Speaker 1: was able to kind of analyze and reading the story
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Speaker 1: and looking at him, that dark side of him, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of women seem to be attracted to that
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Speaker 1: part of an individual for whatever reason it's unknown. It
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Speaker 1: gives the individual sense of power. Okay, you know what,
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Speaker 1: doctor Wallace, I'm trying to stay with you. I'm just
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Speaker 1: a JD sense of power. He's a dentist. I mean,
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Speaker 1: no offense to dentist all around the world, But what's
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Speaker 1: this a power that there? It's like a sense of
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Speaker 1: control almost like I have that you know, I got it,
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Speaker 1: I made it happen. I have that etchem Unfortunately, yes,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying it. It is a sick thought. You know.
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Speaker 1: It's definitely something that the individual within themselves feel like
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Speaker 1: they've accomplished something. It's very tricky and it's I described it, yeah,
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Speaker 1: just bottom lyne It gives each individual as sense of power,
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Speaker 1: like they've accomplished something. You and are we talking about
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Speaker 1: the woman the mistress that's cheating with a dentist with
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Speaker 1: six children accomplished what? I'm sorry, you're really losing me
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Speaker 1: the catch you know, I got it. Yes, it's very unfortunate,
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Speaker 1: but it happens. Guess a woman who is a mistress
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Speaker 1: of side piece as this now it's called you know,
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Speaker 1: with a husband, the wife, six kids. Okay, something must
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Speaker 1: be going on there. This man, the image that he
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Speaker 1: projected to her that he had a lot of money,
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Speaker 1: had everything going on, and she eventually realized that he
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Speaker 1: didn't have all of that stuff. It's just like a thrill. Okay,
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Speaker 1: wait a minute. So you think she was attracted to
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Speaker 1: him because he has this perfect life, seemingly with all
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Speaker 1: of the children in the home with the practice, all
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Speaker 1: of that. But she's got that too. Jan Smith is
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Speaker 1: joining us from Dalenmall dot com. She has a family
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Speaker 1: and she has a practice. What's her deal? Yeah, she
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Speaker 1: does have her own family. She had a practice with
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Speaker 1: her husband, but she too had some financial problems with
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Speaker 1: that practice of her own. Much like Jim Quaig, this
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Speaker 1: woman her name's Karen Kane. She and her husband had
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Speaker 1: run their practice, their orthodontist practice in Texas, into financial
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Speaker 1: ruin and they were on the brink of divorce. They
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Speaker 1: had actually filed dwork papers. Unlike our murdering gentists in Colorado,
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Speaker 1: this women and her family were splitting up. So whether
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Speaker 1: or not she was planning to be with Jim Craig
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Speaker 1: full time, perhaps that was the way that she hoped
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Speaker 1: it would go. Obviously, now it hasn't quite worked out
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Speaker 1: that way for her. Maybe it's some sort of escapism,
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Speaker 1: But whatever it is, she's another for and if given
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Speaker 1: enough rope, I'm sure she would not have been the
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Speaker 1: last Take a listen to Dave Mackett. Crime online investigators
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Speaker 1: claimed Jim Craig was having an affair with the Texas
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Speaker 1: worth of dnist. The relationship was such that Craig even
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Speaker 1: brought her to town when his wife was in the hospital.
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Speaker 1: The name of this mistress Karen Kane, and it's being
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Speaker 1: reported that she was scheduled to fly into Colorado to
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Speaker 1: busy Craig the week and his wife died. Karen and
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Speaker 1: her husband James, have two children and have been separated
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Speaker 1: since January of twenty twenty two. According to The New
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Speaker 1: York Post, neighbors say they haven't seen Karen since the
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Speaker 1: story broke. So she's hiding out, all right, Fine, So
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Speaker 1: she's got a family, and she's got a practice. Everything
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Speaker 1: in jeopardy over what sex? And I wonder how she
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Speaker 1: feels now to find out she is by far not
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Speaker 1: the first mistress this dnnis has had. Hi, guys, Nancy
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Speaker 1: haven't even gotten to the updates yet, but the affair
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Speaker 1: is bad enough. But don't mass with the money. There's
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Speaker 1: six children to feed. Listen to our friends at Fox
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Speaker 1: thirty one. Craig Folifer bankruptcy in August of twenty twenty,
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Speaker 1: labeling he's dead as primarily business related, his estimated liabilities
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Speaker 1: sitting between one and ten million dollars, the former employee
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Speaker 1: describing him as someone passionate about dynastry but wanted to
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Speaker 1: have it all. Okay, joining me right now. Jared Farrentino,
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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania prosecutor and now partner at Piglisi Finnegan, Schaeffer and Ferentino.
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Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned you already. I think your name
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Speaker 1: Jarrett Farantino. Jarrett, thank you for being with us. Okay,
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars in debt? Jin? Did I just hear
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Speaker 1: ten million dollars in debt? Jen Smith, Daily Mail? You
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Speaker 1: sure did. No. That was the estimated scope of his
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Speaker 1: debt when he failed for bankruptcy. But what we've found
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Speaker 1: out called hard facts, Nancy, he was actually in two
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Speaker 1: million dollars a personal debt, and it was because he
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Speaker 1: made some really terrible investments in some dodgy cryptocurrency turned
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Speaker 1: out to be worth absolutely nothing. He gambled the family
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Speaker 1: pots with these really risky investment choices, and then by
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Speaker 1: the time we came to find out about him, he
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Speaker 1: was really up to his neck. He filed for personal bankruptcy,
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Speaker 1: he filed for professional bankruptcy. Okay, Farantino, Really you got
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Speaker 1: the mistress who is knowingly sleeping with a guy? Was
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Speaker 1: six children, they're all over Facebook. You can't help. But no,
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Speaker 1: he's quote happily married, all right, six children. He's a
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Speaker 1: sole source of support. Now I find out not only
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Speaker 1: is he out gambling, but he had to file bankruptcy,
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Speaker 1: personal and professional bankruptcy, Nancy. And quite honestly, this guy's
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Speaker 1: morally bankrupt. Clearly that's you know, the millions in debt
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Speaker 1: are just the beginnings of his problem. It looks like
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Speaker 1: this guy was always looking for the next rush, the
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Speaker 1: next high it's high stakes gambling, high stakes crypto investments.
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Speaker 1: He paid his house off, he was living free and
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Speaker 1: clear in a million dollar house. In twenty nineteen, he
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Speaker 1: up ends that goes back into debt for a high
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Speaker 1: risk cryptocurrency investment that went belly up, so he lost
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Speaker 1: that money. He's party to a lawsuit now. So it
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Speaker 1: seems to me this dentist likes these flights of fans,
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Speaker 1: the high risk, master manipulator, sociopathic personality. That was certainly mouthful.
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Speaker 1: I need to diagram all that, but you know how
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Speaker 1: you diagram sentences in the fourth grade, Because that was
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Speaker 1: a lot, and I think I agree with all of it,
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Speaker 1: but hold on with all the register just for a moment,
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Speaker 1: you know. Back to doctor Patricia Wallace, Guys Licensed Marriage
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Speaker 1: a family therapist at doctor pc Wallace Therapy dot com.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I could enjoy gambling or cheating because
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Speaker 1: I'd be too worried about a getting caught and be
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Speaker 1: what it would do to my family. I mean, think
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Speaker 1: about it. Who wants fifty percent of your children? I
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Speaker 1: don't want fifty percent. I want one hundred percent, even
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Speaker 1: if I have to share it with my husband. But
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Speaker 1: I want to take him to school. I want to
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Speaker 1: pick him up. I want to have dinner with them.
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Speaker 1: I don't want them to be at some crappy fast
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Speaker 1: food every Thursday night having dinner with dad and I
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Speaker 1: have to sit home. Why would you risk all that
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Speaker 1: for what a role in the Hey? No, yeah, he seems,
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Speaker 1: and he may have been. I mean I agree with
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Speaker 1: the you know, being Morley bank rut. However, it seems,
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Speaker 1: and I'm going deep with this analytical theory here, that
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Speaker 1: he obviously was in like a fight flight or freeze
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Speaker 1: type of moment. Wait, which moment are we talking about?
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Speaker 1: The first mistress, the second mistress, the gambling, the bankruptcy,
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Speaker 1: the third mistress, the fourth mistress? Well, I agree, what
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Speaker 1: one instant are we talking about? Because I mean, this
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Speaker 1: is a long track record. I agree. And again, although
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Speaker 1: he may have had some fear instilled in him as
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Speaker 1: far as you know, but with the cryptocurrency and everything
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Speaker 1: going the way that it did, he was in a
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Speaker 1: moment where each incident. Every time something happened, it appears
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Speaker 1: based on his behavior. Then okay, he thought about okay,
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Speaker 1: either I have to fight or I'm going to run
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Speaker 1: away from this. He chose to fight internally within himself
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Speaker 1: and doing all of these other less they abnormal things,
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Speaker 1: you know, engaging in these behaviors to help himself feel good. Okay,
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Speaker 1: now I'm finally understanding you. Is this the same reason
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Speaker 1: men get to a certain age and they get a
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Speaker 1: new haircut, they start working out at the gym, and
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Speaker 1: then they go blow a lot of money on a
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Speaker 1: sports car. Yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha, I'm finally understanding what
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Speaker 1: you're saying. Well, we've been talking about the women, the money,
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Speaker 1: the gambling, but what about the single most important thing.
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Speaker 1: Angela's dead. His wife is dead. Take a listener. Our
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Speaker 1: friends at CBS. He worked so hard to cover his tracks,
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Speaker 1: and it was really some of the workers at his
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Speaker 1: dental practice that helped off investigators to this. He had
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Speaker 1: a home computer and a laptop that he used frequently,
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Speaker 1: according to those employees, but then one day they saw
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Speaker 1: him using a computer in an exam room after hours.
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Speaker 1: Investigators went back and what they found at that computer
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Speaker 1: is that he had created a new Google account, that
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Speaker 1: is where he had purchased on Amazon, buying some of
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Speaker 1: these medals that they believe was used in the poisoning. Okay,
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Speaker 1: he's online in an examination room, all alone, after hours,
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Speaker 1: right there. Okay, guys, let's talk about what we're learning
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Speaker 1: in the last hours regarding this home, this family practice.
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Speaker 1: Dentist James Toller Craig joining me. Chris Buyer's former police chief,
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Speaker 1: John's Creek, now private investigator and polygrapher at Lancaster Services
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Speaker 1: dot com. Chris, can I tell you what happened the
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Speaker 1: other day? I was in the kitchen and I love
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Speaker 1: to cook, and I was making dinner, and I looked
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Speaker 1: out the kitchen window and I saw, Yes, my husband
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Speaker 1: out in the driveway talking on his phone. Why does
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Speaker 1: he have to be out in the driveway talking on
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Speaker 1: the phone. What does he does he have to say
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Speaker 1: out there? He can't say right there in the kitchen
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Speaker 1: with me, So of course I sneak up on him
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Speaker 1: and ambush him to find out what he's doing. Guess
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Speaker 1: what he was doing. He was listening to a book
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Speaker 1: on tape and trying to smoke a sneaky cigar. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's what was happening. He was trying to hide from
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Speaker 1: me because he knew I would raise hblel about him smoking.
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Speaker 1: He has a cigar like once a month that I
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Speaker 1: know of. Anyway, when I got closer enough to him,
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Speaker 1: I can hear him listening to some horrible, boring economic
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Speaker 1: treatise on tape. My ears started bleeding, and then I
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Speaker 1: saw I smelled a cigar. But isn't that a tip
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Speaker 1: off when you see somebody sneaking off to use their
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Speaker 1: cell phone? Absolutely, and let me just say, you're the
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Speaker 1: last person that I would try to sneak something over
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Speaker 1: on like that. I wish you could see me sneaking out.
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Speaker 1: Even took off much industry, so won't make any noise
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Speaker 1: sneaking out there. I caught of being good again. But
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Speaker 1: here you got a guy doing so much in secrets,
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Speaker 1: so nobody would hear about it. And I understand, to
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Speaker 1: Jim Smith joining us from dalimail dot com, what can
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Speaker 1: you tell me about an alternate email address? So yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, he clearly thought he was more intelligent than
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Speaker 1: he was. He was using a different computer in his
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Speaker 1: dentist practice, the one that he owned, and then he
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Speaker 1: had this alternate email address. I think it was something
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Speaker 1: along the lenes of Jim and Waffles at gmail dot com.
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Speaker 1: Or wait, wait, wait, it was what something along the
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Speaker 1: lanes of Jim and Waffles at email or an aol
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Speaker 1: or at hotmail dot call. My I don't recall which exactly,
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Speaker 1: but hardly a criminal mastermind. Oh okay, wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait wait Jackie Sidney,
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Speaker 1: please find out is it hotmail? Is he still using hotmail?
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Speaker 1: I need to know that, just out of my own curiosity. Okay,
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Speaker 1: go ahead, Jim Smith, so he's got an alternate email?
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Speaker 1: Did you say it was Jim and Waffles, gem and Waffles,
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Speaker 1: as in the waffles that we eat for breakfast. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm thinking of him being all double O seven sneaking
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Speaker 1: around and is alias is Jim and Waffles? Okay, truly,
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Speaker 1: it's like something a teenager may do. Chris Buyers, please
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Speaker 1: help me. I mean, I know I'm about to get
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Speaker 1: to what this poor lady suffered being poisoned to death,
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Speaker 1: a horrible, horrible and painful death. But can I just
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Speaker 1: take one moment to let it so ken that he
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Speaker 1: sneaks around to use his super secret Elios and he
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Speaker 1: picks Jim and Waffles. Really do you know one of
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Speaker 1: my guinea pigs is named Waffles Rosie mcwaffle, specifically for
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Speaker 1: her full name. But okay, how Tom can this guy
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Speaker 1: be Chris Buyers? I mean, how many millions of times
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Speaker 1: have you said that when you're going through cases? What
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Speaker 1: an idiot? I thought you had to be smart to
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Speaker 1: go to med school. I might have done that thirty
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Speaker 1: years ago if I known you could get through it
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Speaker 1: and have his level of intelligence. But hey, he just
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Speaker 1: matches the formula of the maggot that we see on
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Speaker 1: here all the time. Addiction a fair money issues? Oh wait, wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: wait wait did you say addiction? Did you say addiction? Porn? Addiction?
22:48
Speaker 1: Did you? Okay, stop right there, Chris or Buyers or
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Speaker 1: in this case, I'm gonna use your full name, Christopher Buyers.
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Speaker 1: Jim Smith, have you had it up to your eyeballs
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Speaker 1: with Hollywood stars? Every time they get caught cheating, they
23:04
Speaker 1: say they have a sex addiction. A bit of a
23:07
Speaker 1: convenient excuse, isn't it? Is that really a thing, doctor
23:11
Speaker 1: Patricia Wallace? I mean, every time I see a Hollywood
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Speaker 1: star cheating and they get caught, they suddenly go to
23:18
Speaker 1: sex rehabit. Yeah, it's actually a thing to be addicted to.
23:22
Speaker 1: Six born. That's usually what you know they work with,
23:29
Speaker 1: unless they're going out hanvrying different encounters with many different
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Speaker 1: people known or unknown. Yes, it's an actual disorder. You know.
23:40
Speaker 1: In the past they called it being a hoe. Now
23:44
Speaker 1: it's a sex addiction. Okay, you got Tiger Woods, Russell Brand,
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Speaker 1: David Dukovney, Rob Low, Michael Douglas, Eric Benet. I mean
23:57
Speaker 1: there's so many more. Oh, wait a minute, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot more. I'm just looking at a list you've got.
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Speaker 1: Did I already say Russell Brand? Have I already named him?
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Speaker 1: Lamar Odom, Kanye West? He claims he has a sex addiction.
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Speaker 1: Colin Ferrold did he claimed he also had a sex addiction.
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many I can't even name them all.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about the sex addiction thing. Chris Buyers.
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Speaker 1: What leads you to believe that he is clinically addicted? Well,
24:26
Speaker 1: I use that as a cop term. I'm not one
24:29
Speaker 1: of these smart psychologists like we have on here. I
24:31
Speaker 1: didn't mean that of a good thing. So you just
24:33
Speaker 1: like throwing it around and now you're trying to explain
24:35
Speaker 1: your back out of it. He put himself there was
24:40
Speaker 1: it was his actions that put him there, So I
24:43
Speaker 1: did not mean that as an excuse for him. And
24:46
Speaker 1: I've got another correction for you while I'm on you
24:50
Speaker 1: like a cheap suit, Christopher Buyers. Doctor Menetia Pandey strenuously
24:56
Speaker 1: objects to you calling the denist to doctor okay, because
25:01
Speaker 1: I think you have to go for like how many
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Speaker 1: years more to be a medical doctor. And for you,
25:06
Speaker 1: Jen Smith, there is no more hotmail. I didn't know that.
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Speaker 1: Sidney just told me that. So Scott, no, it's defunct.
25:14
Speaker 1: It's Gmail. So it's Joe and Waffles at gmail dot com.
25:19
Speaker 1: As the waffle is the most important part of that
25:23
Speaker 1: that ratio right there. So guys, we've established that killers
25:28
Speaker 1: are not always a smart but when you do not
25:32
Speaker 1: just your wife and your mistress, but your whole church.
25:36
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at crime Online. With
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Speaker 1: his wife Angela is sick and in the hospital and
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Speaker 1: family on the Weighty Town, Dennis Jim Craig seeks the
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Speaker 1: help of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day
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Speaker 1: Saints south Shore Ward. He and his family are very
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Speaker 1: active members of the South Shore Ward, and he takes
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Speaker 1: time to thank members for help with yard work, cleaning,
25:56
Speaker 1: and meal preparation, all normal things during a time of need.
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Speaker 1: But it is the oddly specific request he makes that
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Speaker 1: has some members wondering if they have been used to
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Speaker 1: cover up a crime. Members were asked to help organize
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Speaker 1: Craig's mudroom and basement at their home while Angela was
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Speaker 1: in the hospital. The source went on to say, quote,
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Speaker 1: it's quite common in the community for us to go
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Speaker 1: into somebody's house and help when there's a new baby
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Speaker 1: or a sickness, but the language of this request was
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Speaker 1: so heightened. It said they needed the mudroom organized and
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Speaker 1: their basement storage organized unquote. The source thing continued, looking
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Speaker 1: back at the timing of the communication, I can't help
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Speaker 1: wondering if that was something Jim asked for knowing that
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Speaker 1: it might be a crime scene. Later jes Smith dalmail
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Speaker 1: dot Com, what yeah, I mean. The thing that really
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Speaker 1: is baffling about that request If by this point Angela
26:44
Speaker 1: is in the hospital, she is dying slowly. She has
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Speaker 1: been poisoned, so we don't have where you might in
26:50
Speaker 1: other cases have a violent crime scene. This crime scene
26:54
Speaker 1: pertains to the potassium. He was using stassium cyanide poison her.
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Speaker 1: So is that what he was trying to have members
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Speaker 1: of his church move around, reorganize people who have gone
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Speaker 1: to his home in good face, to help them and
27:08
Speaker 1: what they perceived to be a tragedy. Was he trying
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Speaker 1: to manipulate them into possibly getting rid of some of
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Speaker 1: the evidence that could be used against him. We're definitely
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Speaker 1: going to find out at the trial. I think Farantino
27:21
Speaker 1: joining me a Pennsylvania prosecutor and named partner at Big
27:26
Speaker 1: Lacy Finnegan, Schaeffer and Farantino, is this guy leaving a
27:30
Speaker 1: track a mile wide? He's actually asking church members to
27:35
Speaker 1: come over, reorganize and clean up portions of his home.
27:38
Speaker 1: Now they're wondering, did I just clean up a crime?
27:41
Speaker 1: Say fancy when you look at his behavior after the fact,
27:45
Speaker 1: after the poisoning, that is such powerful evidence against him,
27:49
Speaker 1: whether or not he believed they were covering up something,
27:52
Speaker 1: or perhaps there was a bottle there, perhaps there was
27:55
Speaker 1: some packaging there. You know, he'd ordered poison over the
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Speaker 1: period of days, different types, as we discussed, So who
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Speaker 1: knows what he was looking for them to do. But
28:07
Speaker 1: the fact that he made that request will be powerful
28:10
Speaker 1: evidence in the presentation. These bizarre behaviors in his office
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Speaker 1: and at his home afterwards just go to show you
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Speaker 1: his mindset, his actions during that time, and just point
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Speaker 1: to his guilt. It's very powerful evidence. And there's another
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Speaker 1: aspect to it, whether they clean the crime scene or not.
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Speaker 1: Jen Smith joining me dailymail dot com, how dare He
28:35
Speaker 1: might as well have written on the email, Hey, I'm
28:37
Speaker 1: busy shocked up in a hotel in Denver with my mistress.
28:40
Speaker 1: Can you go clean my basement? Well that's it, I
28:43
Speaker 1: mean completely and utterly morally bankrupt. Like we've already discussed.
28:46
Speaker 1: It really seems like this guy has no limit to
28:49
Speaker 1: how far he'll go to his own needs. And my
28:52
Speaker 1: other question I think we are going to find out
28:55
Speaker 1: is where were the children at this point? Is looking
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Speaker 1: after them? There are six of them, six members of
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Speaker 1: the church who were going to help them. We knew
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Speaker 1: that they were the family Mormon and people in their
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Speaker 1: community really went to help them. I mean, did he
29:12
Speaker 1: poll all the children off phone to them too? Guys
29:15
Speaker 1: when we were talking about Jim and Waffles, we thought
29:19
Speaker 1: at hotmail, but actually at gmail dot com is super
29:22
Speaker 1: secret double O seven Gmail handle. Well, he wasn't just
29:27
Speaker 1: using it to contact his mistress. Take listen to our
29:30
Speaker 1: cut twenty seven our friends at CBS. With that new
29:35
Speaker 1: Google account, they then found some of the communication between
29:38
Speaker 1: Jim and this orthodontist in Texas that he had been
29:42
Speaker 1: talking to over the past month and visiting with. They
29:44
Speaker 1: believe that's the woman who was in the most recent affair.
29:48
Speaker 1: So he had really started to use this other computer
29:50
Speaker 1: that he didn't use before and trying to cover his tracks,
29:53
Speaker 1: so that if they had searched his lapstop or searched
29:56
Speaker 1: his phone, they wouldn't have had that evidence. But it
29:58
Speaker 1: was those employees that noticed something weird. And when one
30:01
Speaker 1: of those medals was actually shipped to the dental office,
30:04
Speaker 1: he had told one employee that's a personal package, Please
30:07
Speaker 1: don't open that up. And it was another employee that
30:10
Speaker 1: opened it up. And so it's kind of a several
30:13
Speaker 1: other places in this investigation that all had to come
30:16
Speaker 1: together to really help investigators try and tie this case together.
30:19
Speaker 1: So when you say, hey, don't open that, of course
30:22
Speaker 1: the person is going to open it. And before I
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Speaker 1: go to our expert doctor at Menetia Panday joining us
30:29
Speaker 1: Jim Smith, exactly what poisons was he having sent to
30:37
Speaker 1: his office? Well, do we know of two so far?
30:39
Speaker 1: He had some arsenic sense to his office, and he
30:42
Speaker 1: also had this potassium cyanide, and that is what we
30:45
Speaker 1: think he was using to poison Angela over the course
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Speaker 1: of several weeks, actually putting it in her protein shape,
30:54
Speaker 1: even helping her along or trying to reassure her when
30:57
Speaker 1: she was complaining of sickness, dizziness, Nauja, he was sort
31:00
Speaker 1: of still encouraging her to drink a fluids and you
31:04
Speaker 1: know where those fluids were coming from. Crime stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. In the last hours, the defense team for
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Speaker 1: the dentist has demanded a gag order. In other words,
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Speaker 1: don't let anybody talk about the case and let it
31:38
Speaker 1: leak out to the public. Well, it's a day late,
31:40
Speaker 1: a dollar short for that. Take lest hour cut twenty
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Speaker 1: two k c n C. In court, Craig's attorneys requested
31:46
Speaker 1: a gag order. They complain publicities endangering the dentists trites.
31:52
Speaker 1: Court documents shown a search on Craig's computer asking how
31:56
Speaker 1: many greens of barsnik will kill a human. There is
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Speaker 1: also an invoice for the purchase of the poisoned potassium cyanide.
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Speaker 1: Earlier this week we spoke with friends of the Craigs.
32:08
Speaker 1: It definitely felt bad for the family and when I
32:12
Speaker 1: heard what really happened, just like Karen described as punching
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Speaker 1: the cut. You know, if you look at the trail
32:21
Speaker 1: he's left behind, you may, like we've been talking, think
32:25
Speaker 1: he's a big idiot. But what could be more, let
32:31
Speaker 1: me just say innocent than church friends cleaning your place
32:36
Speaker 1: to help you out with your children unwillingly getting rid
32:39
Speaker 1: of crime evidence. If that effect happened, is he crazy
32:46
Speaker 1: or crazy? Like a fox? Joining me right now? Doctor
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Speaker 1: Menetia Pandey, Doctor Pandey, chief forensic pathologist for Forensic Pathologist
32:55
Speaker 1: else in Ohio, a forensic pathologist and you can find
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Speaker 1: doctor Pandey at the forensic pathologist dot com. Doctor Pandee,
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Speaker 1: we've been working up to this moment. How many grains
33:10
Speaker 1: of arsenic would it take to kill a human? And
33:15
Speaker 1: what is your reaction to the poisons that were put
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Speaker 1: into a protein shake to kill the mother of six?
33:23
Speaker 1: So arsenic can be you know, you have to put
33:26
Speaker 1: quite a bit of it in your food or any
33:30
Speaker 1: kind of shake. However, like for sanide, you don't need
33:34
Speaker 1: that much. Now, what would sanide do to a person
33:39
Speaker 1: side would immediately got cause dizziness, They will cause headaches,
33:44
Speaker 1: They will cause immediate drop in blood pressure and you
33:48
Speaker 1: will just fall down. And what happened at dud interfere
33:51
Speaker 1: with your ability to use oxygen. So after the days
33:57
Speaker 1: preceding her death of her complying I feel dizzy, I
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Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to pass out. I feel sick
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Speaker 1: to my stomach. Are those symptoms consistent with potassium cyanide?
34:09
Speaker 1: I would think that potassium cyanide has a more acute
34:13
Speaker 1: entomology in terms of like once you're exposed to it,
34:16
Speaker 1: you're likely to die very quickly. Those are probably have
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Speaker 1: symptoms of arsenic Oh, I see, I see. I found
34:26
Speaker 1: it interesting that Angela Angela Craig, the deceased mom of six,
34:32
Speaker 1: had been to the hospital multiple times before, but the
34:37
Speaker 1: doctors could not diagnose her. They couldn't figure out what
34:41
Speaker 1: was wrong. I think, of course, I'm just a JD.
34:44
Speaker 1: You're the MD that in the blood panels or the
34:48
Speaker 1: urine analysis that they didn't search for poisons. That's not
34:51
Speaker 1: a typical thing for which they would search. That's correct,
34:55
Speaker 1: if you don't have a high index of suspicion in
34:57
Speaker 1: terms of this person could potentially be poisoned normally in
35:01
Speaker 1: the hospitals, they won't check for those. What type of
35:04
Speaker 1: suffering did she endure before her death? She must have
35:09
Speaker 1: suffered quite a bit in terms of like you having
35:11
Speaker 1: severe headache, her heart would stop, or she's having dizziness
35:15
Speaker 1: and she's like breathing. She got able to breathe. I'm
35:18
Speaker 1: very curious about the way that she passed away. Was
35:24
Speaker 1: she in pain, was she on meds? We don't know,
35:28
Speaker 1: and we won't know until those medical records are revealed.
35:31
Speaker 1: But I do know this. Jarif Farantino, he the husband,
35:35
Speaker 1: was not there at her side. He was texting her, Oh,
35:40
Speaker 1: how I wish I could be with you as she
35:42
Speaker 1: was dying. He was with his mistress hold up in
35:44
Speaker 1: a hotel, ring Nancy. One text he sent her said
35:48
Speaker 1: I have empathy for you, which, as shocking as all
35:53
Speaker 1: those texts were, that one is the most telling because
35:57
Speaker 1: clearly he lacks empathy for his wife. He's not by
36:01
Speaker 1: her side, not holding her hand as she's suffering from
36:05
Speaker 1: some quote unquote suspicious illness. That they haven't even identified.
36:09
Speaker 1: He's hold up with another woman while his wife, mother
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Speaker 1: of six of his six children, is on her deathbed.
36:15
Speaker 1: That is the shocking part of this case. He put
36:19
Speaker 1: her there, he poisoned her over a period of time,
36:22
Speaker 1: and essentially makes those texts from that place away from
36:28
Speaker 1: her side. It's just it's so shocking. This is not
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Speaker 1: the first time that a mistress has been tangled up
36:36
Speaker 1: with a guy who murders his wife. The name Kelsey Barrett,
36:45
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. Kelsey Brett is a beautiful, young
36:49
Speaker 1: single mom of a little girl now dead, the so
36:53
Speaker 1: called other woman, a rodeo queen, takeless an hour, cut
36:58
Speaker 1: thirteen em our friends at Inside Edition. Her name is
37:02
Speaker 1: Crystal Lee and she is a registered nurse in Twin Falls, Idaho.
37:06
Speaker 1: Published reports say the FBI is investigating her in connection
37:10
Speaker 1: with Kelsey Barrett's disappearance. Lee lives about thirty five miles
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Speaker 1: from where the missing mom's cell phone last pained three
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Speaker 1: days after she was seen at a supermarket on Thanksgiving Day.
37:22
Speaker 1: Here's what we know about Lee. She is thirty two
37:24
Speaker 1: years old and a divorced mother of two. She is
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Speaker 1: active in rodeo and was once crowned Miss Magic Valley
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Speaker 1: Stampede Queen. She and Phrasey reportedly met at a rodeo
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Speaker 1: He's a blacksmith. Just before his alleged wedding to Kelsey Barrett.
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Speaker 1: She suddenly goes missing. Let me point out her body
37:45
Speaker 1: was never found. Now listen to eleven m ABC Now,
37:49
Speaker 1: thirty two year old nurse from Twin Falls, Idaho, is
37:51
Speaker 1: set to make a deal with prosecutors in the case
37:54
Speaker 1: of missing mom Kelsey Barrett. Family members of Crystal Lee
37:57
Speaker 1: tell ABC News she will plead guilty this week to
38:00
Speaker 1: at least one charge. Lee, her family says, has known
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Speaker 1: Barras's fiance Patrick Frazy for decades. He's already been charged
38:08
Speaker 1: with Barret's murder. Her body has not been found. Tell
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Speaker 1: me about Crystall Lee's exact relationship to Phrasie and her
38:15
Speaker 1: alleged role in the case remain a mystery. Barrett was
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Speaker 1: last seeing Thanksgiving Day in this surveillance video, shopping with
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Speaker 1: the one year old daughter she had with Frazy. Three
38:24
Speaker 1: days after she vanished, investigators say her cell phone was
38:27
Speaker 1: detected hundreds of miles away. Her phone did end up
38:30
Speaker 1: in Idaho, Multiple law enforcement sources tell ABC News. Lee
38:34
Speaker 1: is suspected of driving Berets's cell phone to Idaho attempting
38:37
Speaker 1: to get rid of it. I wonder if she thought, Wow,
38:41
Speaker 1: why am I getting rid of a cell phone out
38:43
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere? The rodeo Queen dragged into
38:47
Speaker 1: Patrick Phrasie's murderous plot, and then of course who could
38:53
Speaker 1: forget kill her dad? Chris Watts take a listen to
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Speaker 1: clip two m And it was always hit or miss,
38:58
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't every day thing. It was just when
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Speaker 1: I saw him, we just started talking and we just
39:03
Speaker 1: kind of had a lot in common and just hit
39:05
Speaker 1: it off. So we'd always have, you know, pretty good conversations.
39:07
Speaker 1: And then I don't know, one day he told me
39:11
Speaker 1: that he had kids and started talking on his kids
39:13
Speaker 1: and then mentioned, yes that I have a wife, but
39:17
Speaker 1: we're getting separated, so okay, And when do you think
39:20
Speaker 1: that was when he said all that? So specifically when
39:23
Speaker 1: he told you he was getting separated from his wife.
39:26
Speaker 1: Was that within the first couple of weeks that you
39:29
Speaker 1: knew him, or was that later on you said you
39:32
Speaker 1: met him around May or June. Yeah, it was still
39:35
Speaker 1: well she Shann Watts ends up dead along with both
39:40
Speaker 1: of their little girls. Now the girlfriend you're hearing right
39:44
Speaker 1: there in Nicole Kissinger had nothing to do with the
39:47
Speaker 1: murder plot or anything connected to it. We can never
39:50
Speaker 1: forget the seminal case of Scott Peterson and his girlfriend
39:54
Speaker 1: Amber Fry. Remember me and he thought he was clairvoyant
39:57
Speaker 1: because he said, Wow, Amber, this will be my first
40:01
Speaker 1: Christmas without my wife. And guess what it was after
40:05
Speaker 1: he killed her. Take listen to our friends at NBC.
40:08
Speaker 1: I met Scott Peterson November twentieth, two thousand and two.
40:12
Speaker 1: Scott told me he was not married. We did have
40:16
Speaker 1: a romantic relationship. She was Amber Fry. Amber secretly helped
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Speaker 1: the police by recording her calls with Scott. As soon
40:25
Speaker 1: as I plug in her little recorder of the phone rings,
40:29
Speaker 1: he called, oh boy. The Amber Fry had nothing to
40:39
Speaker 1: do with the death or cover up Lacy and Connor's death.
40:44
Speaker 1: But once again she's led down the garden path like
40:47
Speaker 1: many other mistresses. So question do you, Christopher Buyers In
40:53
Speaker 1: the current case the quote other woman is not accused
40:58
Speaker 1: of taking part in any way in the death of
41:02
Speaker 1: the dentist's wife, Angela Craig, but I guarantee you she
41:06
Speaker 1: will be a fountain of information when they start aligning
41:10
Speaker 1: and comparing times he's missing to times his wife got ill,
41:15
Speaker 1: to times he was with his mistress. Absolutely, she's going
41:18
Speaker 1: to be able to put so many of the puzzle
41:20
Speaker 1: people in the order of the timeline of all of this.
41:24
Speaker 1: So she is going to be just like you said,
41:26
Speaker 1: she is going to be a wealth of information for
41:28
Speaker 1: the prosecution in this same much, let's share a farantino.
41:31
Speaker 1: If you've blurted out something like my wife is dying,
41:37
Speaker 1: or my wife is dead, or I'm going to be
41:40
Speaker 1: a widow, or my wife has this illness or that ailment.
41:43
Speaker 1: If he made statements to her like Scott Peterson may
41:47
Speaker 1: to Amber Fry, a jury is going to be standing
41:51
Speaker 1: on their ears. Those admissions, as you know, Nancy, are
41:54
Speaker 1: exceptions to hear. Say it's a defendant's own statements, and
41:58
Speaker 1: they are powerful at the in that courtroom, statements to
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Speaker 1: the mistress while he's lying next to her about his
42:04
Speaker 1: dying wife are very telling, and every prosecutor would love
42:10
Speaker 1: to have a statement like that. And pursuing a conviction
42:13
Speaker 1: of doctor Craig in this case, despite the defense's near
42:16
Speaker 1: requests for a gag order filed In the last days.
42:20
Speaker 1: Evidence is pouring out from the investigation, and every bit
42:25
Speaker 1: of it compounds what we know. Angela Craig died a
42:30
Speaker 1: painful and horrible death, and our children are now going
42:34
Speaker 1: to be left without parents. We wait as justice enter falls.
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Speaker 1: Goodbye for