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When Does Charging Less Start Costing You · Studio B Sessions

• 0:04
  Vipul Bindra: Welcome to another episode of Studio V Sessions with me, Bindra, owner of Bindra Productions here in Orlando, Florida.
• 0:10
  Vipul Bindra: If you've been following us, these are unfiltered, unedited, uh, you know, real conversations with people who are in the photo video industry.
• 0:18
  Vipul Bindra: And uh just like always, this season, we have Mario here helping us on the producer desk making this happens.
• 0:24
  Mario Rangel: Hi guys, how are you?
• 0:25
  Mario Rangel: Welcome back.
• 0:27
  Vipul Bindra: And uh our guest today is Lamar.
• 0:30
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, an amazing photo video professional, and now a studio owner, I guess co-owner with Quintin.
• 0:36
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 0:37
  Vipul Bindra: Uh welcome.
• 0:38
  Vipul Bindra: Thank you.
• 0:39
  Vipul Bindra: Welcome.
• 0:40
  Vipul Bindra: Well, uh, tell people.
• 0:41
  Vipul Bindra: So, what do you do?
• 0:42
  Vipul Bindra: I guess uh tell us people about the studio, you and what what do you do, I guess?
• 0:47
  Vipul Bindra: Okay, um, so I know that's a broad question, right?
• 0:51
  Lamar Shealey: It is very broad.
• 0:52
  Lamar Shealey: So I guess um I'm a photographer, videographer.
• 0:56
  Lamar Shealey: I've been doing that for a while.
• 0:59
  Lamar Shealey: I guess I'll get more into the story because you you don't know much about my story.
• 1:03
  Lamar Shealey: So I started out as a musician at my church when I was 15 years old.
• 1:07
  Lamar Shealey: I've been playing the piano for when I was a little kid, right?
• 1:11
  Lamar Shealey: So I got hooked up with the church and started going there.
• 1:15
  Lamar Shealey: I've been going there since I was 15, I'm 39.
• 1:17
  Vipul Bindra: Wow, that's a long time.
• 1:18
  Lamar Shealey: And then as um, so we had some hurricanes came, the building we were in, bad flooding, we ended up moving to a hotel.
• 1:27
  Lamar Shealey: So then at that point, I started learning how to do sound.
• 1:29
  Lamar Shealey: Because we're breaking down every Sunday, is me, basically my friends, and the church kind of you know went a little bit down because you know, people don't like going to hotels.
• 1:38
  Lamar Shealey: And then we started building it up and getting more equipment and doing all that stuff.
• 1:43
  Lamar Shealey: Um well met my wife, she started coming to the church actually before that, and I actually brought her.
• 1:50
  Lamar Shealey: So did that, and then as we move into our next building, built that out, we had a young man helping out with video, and he's actually doing it professionally now too.
• 2:01
  Lamar Shealey: And I just grabbed a camera one day because he wasn't there because I was doing basically the audio, and it started taking pictures, and and I just really liked it and just kept going from there.
• 2:12
  Lamar Shealey: And we've been streaming at that church probably for 15 years.
• 2:18
  Vipul Bindra: That's a long time.
• 2:19
  Lamar Shealey: Started from not knowing what we're doing and just trying to get better and better and better.
• 2:23
  Lamar Shealey: And so I just started from there and just kept growing.
• 2:27
  Vipul Bindra: That's awesome.
• 2:28
  Vipul Bindra: And that's a common, you know, again, thread with a lot of people, especially who do live streaming.
• 2:32
  Vipul Bindra: A lot of times they start a church or you know, any other place of faith that they go to, place of worship, uh, because it's common for those places who need these services to get to people, you know, that maybe can't come in or whatever.
• 2:44
  Vipul Bindra: And uh, and and it's such an incredible thing that you're learning this technical thing, a place that you're gonna go.
• 2:51
  Vipul Bindra: You know, uh, I mean, uh you're a volunteer at, and then even though you wouldn't think you could learn such high technical stuff at a volunteer position, people do after years and years of doing this, you know, uh you're basically an expert at it, right?
• 3:03
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I mean, I I from doing the sound, I started doing music, I was singing, I was making music, and then just switched.
• 3:11
  Lamar Shealey: I moved out of, I moved, came back, couldn't get back in music, just started doing video.
• 3:15
  Lamar Shealey: And you know, working with things that don't always work half the time teaches you a lot.
• 3:23
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 3:23
  Vipul Bindra: That's an important life lesson.
• 3:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, how to fix things, how to fix things.
• 3:27
  Vipul Bindra: People are losing that skill.
• 3:28
  Vipul Bindra: I feel like it's very important to be able to be hands-on.
• 3:31
  Vipul Bindra: I find like again, I'm not that old, but I'm just saying people don't stop need to like the current culture is you know, if it breaks, you throw away.
• 3:38
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, very few people are like, let me try and fix it first.
• 3:41
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:42
  Lamar Shealey: It's broke.
• 3:43
  Lamar Shealey: So what what can I what else can I do to it if it's broke?
• 3:45
  Lamar Shealey: We're gonna throw it away anyway, so I might as well take it.
• 3:48
  Lamar Shealey: I was always like that from a kid.
• 3:49
  Lamar Shealey: I took apart remote control cars when they broke.
• 3:52
  Lamar Shealey: I just I just love always taking things apart.
• 3:54
  Lamar Shealey: Most times probably didn't put it together, right?
• 3:56
  Lamar Shealey: That was me as a kid.
• 3:58
  Vipul Bindra: I'd pull it apart, you know, try to fix it, but usually have no idea how to put it back together.
• 4:02
  Vipul Bindra: And that's how you learn.
• 4:04
  Lamar Shealey: That's how you learn, and eventually you start being able to put stuff back together.
• 4:06
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly.
• 4:08
  Vipul Bindra: So that's awesome.
• 4:09
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, and then how did that lead to, I guess, today where you are, which is like I said, uh building studio, doing it professionally in your studio, photo and video and all that.
• 4:19
  Lamar Shealey: So doing the same thing week in and week out.
• 4:23
  Lamar Shealey: Um so my team is mostly young young kids, and I'm trying to teach them.
• 4:27
  Lamar Shealey: And you know, I've had kids go to college.
• 4:30
  Lamar Shealey: I've had um I have one, she just became a lawyer.
• 4:34
  Lamar Shealey: Um and she's married, and I have another one.
• 4:38
  Lamar Shealey: He's married with a kid, and he's doing videography professionally, traveling around the country.
• 4:42
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, he hires me for jobs now, you know.
• 4:45
  Lamar Shealey: So it's it just got like I want to do this more, so I want to expand and do more things.
• 4:52
  Lamar Shealey: So you know, with uh with working with a church, you have a budget, and sometimes it's a very tight, strict budget, and there's certain things that you can't do.
• 5:00
  Lamar Shealey: Um, and I just want to be able to do more things.
• 5:03
  Lamar Shealey: And hey, I want to try something.
• 5:06
  Lamar Shealey: Okay, I have no restriction of what I can try in this area.
• 5:09
  Lamar Shealey: Just hey, if I got an extra couple hundred dollars, I want to buy this Ultimat, yeah, go ahead, buy it.
• 5:17
  Vipul Bindra: I can use it.
• 5:18
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 5:18
  Vipul Bindra: And that's this is great freedom though, to have uh being able to, like you said, just make things happen.
• 5:24
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, and expanding it out and trying to get more clients and you know, meet people.
• 5:30
  Lamar Shealey: This is always the fun thing.
• 5:31
  Lamar Shealey: That's one thing I like about photography.
• 5:33
  Lamar Shealey: Um, you get to meet a lot of people.
• 5:35
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, um, I like doing the family photography as well because just interacting with people and you know, well, I'm also a teacher and phasing that out a little bit, but you know, being able to connect with the kids and you know, it's having fun.
• 5:50
  Lamar Shealey: That's all it was about.
• 5:51
  Lamar Shealey: Like when they come in and say, I don't know how to do this, I was like, Well, we're just gonna have some fun.
• 5:55
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that's it.
• 5:55
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 5:56
  Vipul Bindra: Make it easy for them, right?
• 5:58
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 5:58
  Vipul Bindra: Uh so when at what point did you meet Quentin?
• 6:02
  Lamar Shealey: I met Quentin at a at our church conference.
• 6:07
  Lamar Shealey: Um, a gentleman named Troy brought him in and met him one year, he came in, helped out, and then I guess just throughout the year met him again.
• 6:17
  Lamar Shealey: He came to the church a few more times to help us out with little one-off things, and then I don't know, we just started talking more and he was we were getting ready for the next conference, which was the one last year, and he was like, Well, I'm going to Africa for a few months, and and Troy, he does this professionally as well on the big stage.
• 6:37
  Lamar Shealey: And he's like, Well, we need you to learn how to do some use some of this equipment.
• 6:41
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm like, Well, at my school building, we have a whole side that we're not even using, bring it over there.
• 6:47
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 6:47
  Lamar Shealey: So we brought it over and we just started hooking up stuff and doing things.
• 6:50
  Lamar Shealey: They left.
• 6:50
  Lamar Shealey: I worked on it a little bit, and this is just how it came about.
• 6:53
  Lamar Shealey: And it was sitting empty.
• 6:55
  Lamar Shealey: We were like, we just start a studio here.
• 6:57
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that's such such a I mean, amazing thing if you think about it, right?
• 7:01
  Vipul Bindra: You had an empty side that you guys weren't using for the school, and obviously you're doing video production through the church.
• 7:08
  Vipul Bindra: Quentin's working, you know, with the ministry, and and then somehow you two connect, and it's like the perfect mixture of people.
• 7:16
  Vipul Bindra: You know, I I mean, I like I I think about like I don't too much believe in fate, but I'm like, that has to be fate, right?
• 7:22
  Vipul Bindra: Like uh, you guys were meant to be, and then obviously I love what you've done with it.
• 7:26
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but you know, I it had to start with you two spark building the spark of let's do something here, you know, and and create something together where you know, not only is it it's a nice space, but more importantly, it's a business, it's a place where other people can come and create content, and you guys can create content for other people and stuff like that, you know, right?
• 7:45
  Vipul Bindra: Uh so uh whose idea was it to build this studio?
• 7:51
  Vipul Bindra: Was it you or Quentin?
• 7:53
  Lamar Shealey: It's funny, and and when you talk about faith, it's funny how um God puts people in your life because I've always had that.
• 7:59
  Lamar Shealey: I've for years I wanted to have a photography studio.
• 8:03
  Lamar Shealey: Now that's not the main thing that it is, but I was like, man, a place where during Christmas time I could bring people in because a lot of the studios closed that were doing photography for um families.
• 8:14
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 8:14
  Lamar Shealey: And I was like, I want to do that.
• 8:16
  Lamar Shealey: We had an extra space at the at our other building, and I would just do it there, but I was like setting this up and breaking it down every single time and taking a c taking my whole class apart and moving all the chairs around and moving my desk around and then have to put it all back together.
• 8:30
  Lamar Shealey: It's a lot of work.
• 8:31
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I spend 75% of the time just putting things together and taking it apart, not even shooting or editing.
• 8:38
  Lamar Shealey: So when it came when he came and just kind of he's like, Man, this would be cool as a studio.
• 8:44
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, I don't think so.
• 8:46
  Lamar Shealey: And so it's kind of like he just came in and just like kind of reaffirmed something I already wanted to do.
• 8:53
  Vipul Bindra: That makes sense because you know, you uh you look at that space, it's meant to be, because there's a narrow hallway on one side, big rooms on the other side, you know, kind of that's essentially a good layout for for a good small-size studio where corporate and commercial work can take place, which is kind of I think what you're leaning towards, right?
• 9:10
  Vipul Bindra: Photo shoots, video shoots, podcasts, things like that.
• 9:14
  Vipul Bindra: And uh yeah, normally, you know, the way the commercial buildings are designed, they may not work for it, but the way that's designed with a small front lobby, so you have more space, makeup room on the right, like it kind of seems like it was designed.
• 9:26
  Vipul Bindra: I I don't think it was, but it was designed for yeah, that it was designed probably as a classroom, but it kind of works as a studio very easily.
• 9:34
  Vipul Bindra: You guys didn't have to like you know, it'd be one thing if you had to do a full remodel.
• 9:38
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, all you had to really uh do is I'm saying you didn't have to change the layout, it basically worked.
• 9:43
  Vipul Bindra: You just had to paint, you know, obviously get the equipment in there or the setups in there, but you didn't have to like tear down walls or whatever.
• 9:49
  Vipul Bindra: It wasn't an extensive project.
• 9:51
  Vipul Bindra: Uh so that's really awesome.
• 9:52
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, I'm so happy that you guys met or whatever.
• 9:55
  Vipul Bindra: And the way I was introduced to you through was Quentin, because I knew Quentin now for a few years, thanks to Alex.
• 10:02
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, actually, very long uh quite a few years I've known uh Quentin, at least I would say four or four years minimum.
• 10:07
  Vipul Bindra: So through Alex is how I met Quentin.
• 10:10
  Vipul Bindra: All right, and uh obviously uh I think it was his uh meetup where or even before the meetup, he was telling me about his his this you know studio idea or whatever, and then I think it was his meetup where where we met, right?
• 10:23
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, yeah, so that was incredible.
• 10:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so so it was Quentin who kind of met us meet, and then we had a chance to work together.
• 10:30
  Vipul Bindra: So I think we were doing the Kia Center shoot, and uh he was really pushing for you.
• 10:35
  Vipul Bindra: He's like, you gotta have Lamar there, and you know, Quentin is one of my guys, so it's like, you know, if you say it, Lamar's gonna be there.
• 10:42
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, that's one that's one cool thing about Quentin.
• 10:44
  Lamar Shealey: He's been pushing me to get out there because I think one of the things that I just haven't had with working with churches, just that opportunity to get out past the church.
• 10:52
  Lamar Shealey: It's not saying I'm leaving the church behind, but just get out past the church and be able to kind of experience other things.
• 10:58
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 10:59
  Lamar Shealey: Um, because I've been put in a lot of different positions, and when I come in, you know, of course, in the church world where I've been working, I was always over it.
• 11:07
  Lamar Shealey: Right?
• 11:08
  Lamar Shealey: But I'm like, I it's good to come out and do things and just be able to learn and experience different things.
• 11:15
  Lamar Shealey: And the funny thing was after that shoot, um, I think about a month later, I got a job working um Thai Tribbit.
• 11:23
  Lamar Shealey: I don't know if you ever heard of him, he's a gospel artist.
• 11:25
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 11:25
  Lamar Shealey: He called me to come shoot him at the same thing for family and faith.
• 11:31
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, oh, cool.
• 11:32
  Lamar Shealey: So I can't.
• 11:33
  Vipul Bindra: Now you know every all the alleyways and how to get in there.
• 11:35
  Vipul Bindra: I know how to get in there.
• 11:36
  Vipul Bindra: I would have yeah, I would have been lost if I didn't have that stadium.
• 11:38
  Vipul Bindra: That place is uh I mean, I guess it's all stadiums.
• 11:42
  Vipul Bindra: They they designed them, I guess, for you to get lost in there.
• 11:44
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but that's really cool.
• 11:46
  Vipul Bindra: I really appreciate it.
• 11:46
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, he introduced me to Andrew.
• 11:48
  Vipul Bindra: That's what it was, basically.
• 11:49
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, I want to bring Andrew, and I was like, Well, we'll bring him Lamar too.
• 11:53
  Vipul Bindra: How about that?
• 11:53
  Vipul Bindra: I told my clients, like, well, we need an extra person, we gotta fit them in.
• 11:58
  Vipul Bindra: You know, that's how it is.
• 11:59
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, and to be real, I I I trust Quentin's opinion because like I said, he introduced me to Andrew, and same thing, he knows him from C Fan, and like I said, Andrew is incredible too.
• 12:07
  Vipul Bindra: Andrew, yeah, he's talented.
• 12:09
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, he's he's he's like I say, he likes me in the tech side.
• 12:12
  Vipul Bindra: I love that.
• 12:13
  Vipul Bindra: He's like so deep into every little equipment, how to put it together, how to be creative.
• 12:17
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, he's very creative too.
• 12:18
  Vipul Bindra: I'm saying so shooting goes.
• 12:20
  Vipul Bindra: Uh funny enough, I'm gonna have him a shoot tomorrow, so I'm excited.
• 12:22
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, yeah, that's it.
• 12:23
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so um anyway, so when he's at, I was like, okay, so you're coming.
• 12:27
  Vipul Bindra: And I told the client, I was like, well, we need extra people this year, it's gonna be more coverage, right?
• 12:31
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, anyway, but no, no, I'm so glad you came, man.
• 12:34
  Vipul Bindra: It was such a good good time having you unset.
• 12:37
  Vipul Bindra: I think what not only did we have fun, I think we had a lot of fun that night.
• 12:40
  Vipul Bindra: We did.
• 12:41
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, even though the singer wasn't a good, I wish you were there last year.
• 12:44
  Vipul Bindra: Okay.
• 12:44
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, to be real, I mean, he's a good singer, but his music just isn't danceworthy.
• 12:48
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 12:48
  Vipul Bindra: Last year, the singer they had, his music was very, you know, dance worthy.
• 12:51
  Vipul Bindra: So people were all on the court dancing and having fun.
• 12:54
  Vipul Bindra: But literally, the security had to be like, no, no, we can't have that many people on the court, right?
• 12:58
  Vipul Bindra: Because it's gonna I guess damage, whatever.
• 13:00
  Vipul Bindra: So, no, no, no, back up.
• 13:02
  Vipul Bindra: But I'm saying it it was uh it was a party, but versus this year I felt like less people want to dance and not because he wasn't singing good or whatever.
• 13:09
  Vipul Bindra: But that music wasn't dance, but either way, we still had a party, we had a lot of fun.
• 13:13
  Vipul Bindra: We were able to go up on the lounge and you know had a good meal.
• 13:16
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, your your member, Mario, what's your memory from that shoot?
• 13:22
  Mario Rangel: From the Kia Center shoot?
• 13:23
  Mario Rangel: Yeah.
• 13:24
  Mario Rangel: No, I had a lot of fun.
• 13:26
  Mario Rangel: We had like uh we could go anywhere.
• 13:30
  Mario Rangel: Yeah, we had full access to full access in like in to the core even.
• 13:35
  Mario Rangel: Yeah, so that that's great.
• 13:36
  Mario Rangel: And then we also had like you were saying the like the VIP access to that like buffet.
• 13:44
  Mario Rangel: Yeah, yeah, it was it was really cool shoot.
• 13:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, how about how about the shoot part itself?
• 13:48
  Vipul Bindra: Did you enjoy actually what the content we were creating?
• 13:50
  Vipul Bindra: The whole India day thing.
• 13:52
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I know you guys are not Indian.
• 13:53
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I still like so I still like India.
• 13:56
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, to be honorary Indians because of you know, you know, our next door neighbor um by my parents' house is Indian, and he's um bought the house in 2003, they did.
• 14:05
  Lamar Shealey: Known him since then, seen his son grow up and everything.
• 14:08
  Lamar Shealey: And I just like other cultures.
• 14:10
  Lamar Shealey: I like experiencing that and hearing the music and it's it's fun.
• 14:15
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, to be honest, I I really love it because you know it's a partnership between the IECC and the uh the Orlando Magic.
• 14:22
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, it's technically just a regular NBA game.
• 14:25
  Vipul Bindra: They just uh celebrate, I guess, Indian culture on that day.
• 14:28
  Vipul Bindra: So the the what all the changes, the halftime show, the post-game show, all that is, you know, of somebody somebody Indian, right?
• 14:35
  Vipul Bindra: They probably usually for halftime have Indian kids who dance and stuff, and then post-game is some Indian singer, you know, celebrity singer or whatever who comes out and sings.
• 14:44
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I did want to say uh the funny story from that particular uh shoot when um I was upstairs looking for y'all.
• 14:50
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 14:51
  Lamar Shealey: Oh and then and then they were like, oh yeah, we need to get that.
• 14:54
  Lamar Shealey: Y'all were all sitting down, we came from outside, oh yeah, we need to get that.
• 14:57
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, all right, let me go right now.
• 15:00
  Lamar Shealey: I just go to the first elevator I see and said, Hey, I need to be on the floor right now.
• 15:06
  Lamar Shealey: They said, Okay, they pressed some buttons and they skipped every single floor.
• 15:10
  Lamar Shealey: They didn't know who I was.
• 15:12
  Lamar Shealey: I just some random guy just come up and say, I'm gonna go.
• 15:14
  Lamar Shealey: But still, they were like, I'll get you there.
• 15:17
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I got on the floor as soon as they finished.
• 15:20
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, ah that's so good of you to use that power.
• 15:24
  Vipul Bindra: But no, to be honest, it's on on, I'll take a little bit of blame.
• 15:27
  Vipul Bindra: So what happened is, and you know, again, we do this every year, but you know, you it's it's a year later.
• 15:32
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, so what's you don't remember everything.
• 15:34
  Vipul Bindra: So basically, we did we captured the um the pro the pre-game show, essentially, is the the thing again.
• 15:40
  Vipul Bindra: There's too many things happening, but anyway, we you guys were still outside, right?
• 15:44
  Vipul Bindra: I think it was Mario, were you outside too, right?
• 15:46
  Vipul Bindra: It was the two of you, I believe.
• 15:47
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, yeah.
• 15:48
  Vipul Bindra: So the the other three, four of us, either way, however, many of us was there.
• 15:53
  Vipul Bindra: We had gone in uh to get the the pregame.
• 15:56
  Vipul Bindra: You guys were outside finishing on the outside thing.
• 15:58
  Vipul Bindra: So we got the pregame and we're like, awesome, let's go to the buffet.
• 16:02
  Vipul Bindra: You know, we remember so we're like, we're gonna go uh or I say buffet, it's I think in a lounge or whatever.
• 16:07
  Vipul Bindra: We're like, we're gonna go there and eat some nice food and have fun while we know now the game's gonna start.
• 16:11
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, we completely forgot they gotta do the national anthem next.
• 16:15
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm like, how can I be so silly?
• 16:17
  Vipul Bindra: So you guys are now coming in to essentially just chill until you know halftime or whatever, yeah, right?
• 16:22
  Vipul Bindra: Looking for y'all, yeah, exactly.
• 16:24
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm like, uh national anthem started.
• 16:26
  Vipul Bindra: So I'm like, can anyone please get that?
• 16:28
  Vipul Bindra: Like, we are not gonna make it down, and that's when you were like, no, I I am on it.
• 16:32
  Vipul Bindra: But unfortunately, I mean, you did your best, yes, you weren't able to make it.
• 16:35
  Vipul Bindra: Luckily, we were able to go to IECC to go to Orlando Magic and get some footage of the national anthem.
• 16:41
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, it's just again, these type of oversights happen.
• 16:44
  Vipul Bindra: Again, I think I got overzealous.
• 16:46
  Vipul Bindra: I was just like, I should have, I could have waited five minutes, but again, it wasn't no harm done in the final edit.
• 16:51
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, but I'm just saying it was kind of a funny situation that you're running.
• 16:55
  Lamar Shealey: They need to go now.
• 16:56
  Lamar Shealey: They got they got they literally like I felt like a superstar, yeah, because they literally just had me go straight down the elevator, skipped everything.
• 17:03
  Lamar Shealey: I get I don't even know if they rated on the head because the person at the next gate was like, Come on, yeah, and I just and I ran straight to the floor and got right there.
• 17:10
  Vipul Bindra: I just said, Hey, I'm at Yeah, and then that's that's so cool.
• 17:14
  Vipul Bindra: I I mean I had your normally I don't have access issues to this either.
• 17:17
  Vipul Bindra: I did for one segment, I don't know, whoever.
• 17:20
  Vipul Bindra: The guy wouldn't let me in on the court, and I'm like, dude, I'm supposed to be here, so I had to like go to someone else.
• 17:25
  Vipul Bindra: He was like, Yeah, yeah, they're supposed to be.
• 17:27
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, it clearly says C on it.
• 17:29
  Vipul Bindra: We can and we're not trying to do go during the game.
• 17:32
  Vipul Bindra: Obviously, I I'm not gonna be unreasonable there, but during the halftime, it's not even I don't I'm pretty sure it's not even televised.
• 17:39
  Vipul Bindra: That's no, I don't think so.
• 17:40
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so that's just for the people there, and that's why we're allowed to be in court and get whatever angles we need.
• 17:45
  Vipul Bindra: But yeah, I had some some guy on one of the corners was like, No, you can't be on there.
• 17:49
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, Yes, I can be.
• 17:51
  Vipul Bindra: That's exactly why they hired me.
• 17:52
  Vipul Bindra: Like, if you don't capture this, then I why am I here anyway?
• 17:55
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly.
• 17:56
  Vipul Bindra: No, but that but that's why I like that gig, because it's like we have certain things we need to capture, but usually in the middle, we have a lot of freedom.
• 18:04
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, there's some segments where they're behind the scenes or whatever, we gotta capture some sound bites, but a lot of it is we can also get to experience and chill and just enjoy while we capture it.
• 18:15
  Vipul Bindra: It's it's not the most financial thing, obviously, it's a partnership.
• 18:18
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, uh, but the advantage uh for me is hey, my name's there, you know, on one of the boards, I guess.
• 18:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, uh, and then the other thing being is that I get to um have that access and just have that fun because it's not like um you know long-term thing, it's just a one-day uh I don't know.
• 18:35
  Vipul Bindra: What do you what do you think?
• 18:36
  Lamar Shealey: Did you have fun?
• 18:36
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, yeah, I had fun, and I think it's good to be able to bring in people that you don't know because you didn't really know me.
• 18:41
  Lamar Shealey: So it's like, hey, let me bring a look, bring in this guy that he said is good.
• 18:44
  Lamar Shealey: All right, bring me up.
• 18:46
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, to be real, I knew you at that time I hadn't met you at the Yeah, you met me, but you didn't really know.
• 18:50
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I never had a chance to get it.
• 18:51
  Vipul Bindra: Some random guy, you know.
• 18:52
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 18:53
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but no, I'm so glad I brought you, dude.
• 18:56
  Vipul Bindra: We had so much fun.
• 18:56
  Vipul Bindra: And uh it was so fun actually working with you and getting to know you.
• 19:02
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, this is awesome, we should do this more often.
• 19:04
  Vipul Bindra: And uh uh, because like I said, the footage you got was great.
• 19:07
  Vipul Bindra: We had fun, like I said, and you use your power correctly to get down because you did need to go down there.
• 19:12
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, it's not your fault, because like I said, by the time we realize they're already singing, it's not like it takes them forever to the national anthem.
• 19:18
  Vipul Bindra: It does not, yeah.
• 19:19
  Vipul Bindra: So it's not like the longest time to uh to get there.
• 19:22
  Vipul Bindra: And uh Kia Center is a maze, essentially.
• 19:26
  Lamar Shealey: Um I don't even I really don't even know how I ended up I ended up right by the right elevator.
• 19:32
  Vipul Bindra: I think I think our issue is the past.
• 19:33
  Vipul Bindra: So normal people, I think they control you.
• 19:35
  Vipul Bindra: Like if you go to an elevator, they'll tell you like you can only get off on this floor or whatever.
• 19:39
  Vipul Bindra: But when you have that core tight access, they essentially just let you go wherever.
• 19:43
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 19:43
  Vipul Bindra: So I think you can end up.
• 19:45
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, so the next time I went, um, I got a chance to walk around some more because it was only me.
• 19:50
  Lamar Shealey: I didn't have anybody else.
• 19:51
  Lamar Shealey: I was trying to bring Quentin on that job, didn't quite work out.
• 19:53
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm just walking around the place.
• 19:55
  Lamar Shealey: Actually, no, I had him bring in my wife.
• 19:57
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 19:57
  Lamar Shealey: I said, Well, your budget's not there at this particular time for this thing.
• 20:01
  Lamar Shealey: I said, I bring my wife and have her just hang out.
• 20:03
  Vipul Bindra: They're like, All right.
• 20:04
  Lamar Shealey: They gave her a ticket and everything.
• 20:05
  Lamar Shealey: It was funny.
• 20:06
  Vipul Bindra: Well, that's pretty good.
• 20:06
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 20:07
  Lamar Shealey: So, but we were walking around.
• 20:09
  Lamar Shealey: I was walking around and let her get in the seat, just trying to figure it out, and I got lost like two, three times.
• 20:14
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 20:15
  Lamar Shealey: So I don't even know how I ended up getting on the floor that day, but that day, that time, it was just perfect.
• 20:21
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly where I was.
• 20:23
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 20:24
  Vipul Bindra: That's awesome though.
• 20:25
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, uh that, you know, and I can say it'll help maybe next time if you remember a little bit.
• 20:29
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but that you got together twice and that helped.
• 20:31
  Vipul Bindra: But also, you're uh are you not talking about tickets?
• 20:34
  Vipul Bindra: I remember, yeah, they gave me four tickets too.
• 20:35
  Vipul Bindra: I got to have my kids that day, and then we also invited Natalia and Julie.
• 20:39
  Vipul Bindra: Like they were all there basically.
• 20:41
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I'm saying it was fun to just have everyone there and just have fun.
• 20:44
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, um, like I said, it's one of those fun gigs that I get to do.
• 20:47
  Vipul Bindra: It's not a lot, you know, uh, but it's it's it's a good gig, and I'm so glad you you could be part of it.
• 20:54
  Vipul Bindra: And like I said, the main thing I liked was we had a good time, we had fun, we captured good footage, the video came out great, the client's happy, we're happy, and then and like I said, we got to enjoy an NBA game with full side access.
• 21:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, we could essentially be wherever.
• 21:09
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I still remember last year, like I was standing somewhere, you know, waiting for the players to exit for halftime.
• 21:15
  Vipul Bindra: But like, I'm just making some social media real or whatever, but people are just going crazy just for a handshake.
• 21:21
  Vipul Bindra: And you know, I'm right next to a player, I could have said hi or whatever.
• 21:24
  Vipul Bindra: I didn't, I'm not a basketball person, but I'm just like, cool, this is just good to be here, you know.
• 21:29
  Vipul Bindra: Like, sure, I'm not like fans of any of these players or whatever, but I mean, I'll play some 2K, but I don't know each player individually, you know what I mean?
• 21:37
  Vipul Bindra: Like, yeah, so I was like, oh, this is pretty cool to be here and have this type of access.
• 21:40
  Vipul Bindra: And I think that's a lot of jobs that make me feel like that, where I'm like, how did I end up here?
• 21:44
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 21:45
  Vipul Bindra: He's like, how?
• 21:47
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, I um I did one job, it was just off the cuff.
• 21:51
  Lamar Shealey: It was somebody called me and said, Hey, I need you to do a job now.
• 21:55
  Lamar Shealey: This this guy's name is Donnie McClerkin, right?
• 21:58
  Lamar Shealey: So he's a Legend when it comes to gospel music.
• 22:02
  Lamar Shealey: Like legend.
• 22:02
  Lamar Shealey: So I was just called got called up by a friend and said, Hey, I need you to do this job.
• 22:08
  Lamar Shealey: I can't make it.
• 22:09
  Lamar Shealey: I said, Okay, I hooked up with a guy, and he's like, Alright, you're gonna meet with Donnie McClerk.
• 22:13
  Lamar Shealey: And I'm saying, Alright, cool, I'll go to the place and you know, do all the stuff.
• 22:17
  Lamar Shealey: I ended up in his hotel room recording him.
• 22:19
  Lamar Shealey: Just me and him, nobody else.
• 22:22
  Vipul Bindra: Wow, I'm like just for you.
• 22:24
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm like, what is going on?
• 22:26
  Lamar Shealey: Now, you know, of course, you have to act like you've been there before.
• 22:28
  Lamar Shealey: And he knows my pastor and everything.
• 22:29
  Lamar Shealey: So I kind of sparked up that conversation.
• 22:32
  Lamar Shealey: So he knows, hey, okay, cool.
• 22:33
  Lamar Shealey: And we talked about um his church, my church, and there's different things.
• 22:37
  Lamar Shealey: He's from New York.
• 22:38
  Lamar Shealey: And it was just cool.
• 22:40
  Lamar Shealey: Like, I can't believe I'm just in the room sitting here with somebody that used to play his music, singing songs when I was like a teenager.
• 22:47
  Lamar Shealey: It's crazy.
• 22:49
  Lamar Shealey: So, you know, you get in those places and you're just like, Man, like, how did I get here?
• 22:53
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, how did I get it?
• 22:54
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, that's really awesome that you were able to do that.
• 22:56
  Vipul Bindra: Even the Kia Center one, did you have full access?
• 22:58
  Vipul Bindra: Were you able to go around the thing, right?
• 23:00
  Vipul Bindra: Then do whatever some shit.
• 23:01
  Lamar Shealey: I actually stood on the press box with the other um camera people.
• 23:05
  Lamar Shealey: You know, of course, we can't tape it, yeah, but just sat there and just you know, watched the game from where they are they're recording and doing getting different clips for their um podcasts and stuff.
• 23:14
  Lamar Shealey: And I'm just able to sit there with them.
• 23:17
  Lamar Shealey: I had a few conversations with them, they're nice guys.
• 23:19
  Lamar Shealey: And I mean, literally, if I wanted to, I could have just stayed there the whole time and watched the whole game literally from the floor.
• 23:25
  Vipul Bindra: Wow, that's incredible.
• 23:27
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that's I think one of the best things about it.
• 23:30
  Vipul Bindra: Obviously, I love because I want to make videos and stuff.
• 23:32
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, I guess it's a secondary benefit, right?
• 23:34
  Vipul Bindra: Of us doing photo and video, and then next thing you know, you get access to famous singers, famous celebrities.
• 23:41
  Vipul Bindra: Like when I had Fernando, we were talking about um what's his name?
• 23:44
  Vipul Bindra: Oh my goodness, I keep forgetting this guy's name.
• 23:46
  Vipul Bindra: The commercial Miami that we talked with Fernando, what's the singer's name?
• 23:51
  Vipul Bindra: Mark Anthony.
• 23:52
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, yeah, I should just remember that name.
• 23:55
  Vipul Bindra: So we just had this car, same thing, like how we did the commercial, and we had access to this celebrity right next to us.
• 24:01
  Vipul Bindra: And you know, it's just one of those bonus something.
• 24:03
  Vipul Bindra: Not that it affects what we do, we we still do the best to do, but it's nice to have access like that, where you know, you know, it's just nice.
• 24:11
  Vipul Bindra: You know, it is to be able to go to Kia Center, to be able to, you know, uh have full access to whatever the the luxury uh what do you call it, lounges or whatever, uh be able to record content, have courtside access, you know.
• 24:23
  Vipul Bindra: Uh essentially be wherever we also got to go to the press room, I believe, for a little bit, right?
• 24:27
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:28
  Lamar Shealey: And um, I actually have a um Troy, my other friend, he was like, Man, if you would have told me you were there, I could have talked to my people and got you in the um where they do all the shooting at.
• 24:37
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 24:37
  Lamar Shealey: Where they actually have the whole big board where they do all the multicam shoots.
• 24:41
  Lamar Shealey: He's like, I could have told you how to get there.
• 24:42
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, I should have just called you.
• 24:45
  Vipul Bindra: And guess what?
• 24:45
  Vipul Bindra: You shouldn't know the year before Quentin just made it there.
• 24:49
  Vipul Bindra: So we were at Quentin, he said, Yeah, I've been here or whatever, or something like that.
• 24:52
  Vipul Bindra: So I was like, I'll take you.
• 24:53
  Vipul Bindra: And then next thing we know, you know, we're going in the elevator.
• 24:56
  Vipul Bindra: I'm pretty sure we ended up it looked like the control room.
• 24:58
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, there's no way we're we're supposed to be here, but we were just there.
• 25:02
  Vipul Bindra: So again, nobody stopped.
• 25:04
  Vipul Bindra: The the advantage of at least the past that we have is like nobody stopped us.
• 25:07
  Vipul Bindra: So it's like, oh, where obviously you have to know how to get there because I have no idea how we went, where we went.
• 25:12
  Vipul Bindra: It was pretty high up.
• 25:14
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but that's pretty cool again, like you said, it's it's just not the most important thing, but it's it's cool to have that access, it's cool to be able to.
• 25:20
  Vipul Bindra: What's I like about that gig is the freedom that I have.
• 25:23
  Vipul Bindra: So I wouldn't normally do if it was just like actually just go, go, go type of gang.
• 25:28
  Vipul Bindra: You know, like I said, I it's a sponsorship, partnership type of thing.
• 25:31
  Vipul Bindra: But I really do really like that.
• 25:33
  Vipul Bindra: They do give me freedom.
• 25:35
  Vipul Bindra: They're like, hey, this is the obviously the requirements, we gotta capture the Indias Day stuff happening there.
• 25:40
  Vipul Bindra: But outside of that, I like I get full freedom, like what coverage I want, where we want to be, what do we want to do, we want to interview.
• 25:46
  Vipul Bindra: It's not like anyone's pressuring me to do anything.
• 25:49
  Vipul Bindra: So it makes the uh the day go by really fast, right?
• 25:52
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 25:52
  Vipul Bindra: Um, anyway, let's switch to to you.
• 25:54
  Vipul Bindra: I know you also do photography.
• 25:56
  Vipul Bindra: You say you love doing family photography.
• 25:58
  Vipul Bindra: Is there any particular uh uh is that your like your favorite thing to do?
• 26:02
  Lamar Shealey: Um that it's it's fun to do that because I get a chance to like you know talk to families and meet people.
• 26:09
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, I did a I did a family reunion once.
• 26:11
  Lamar Shealey: It was like 50 something, 60 people.
• 26:15
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, it was it was it was a lot.
• 26:18
  Lamar Shealey: That was pretty fun.
• 26:19
  Lamar Shealey: Um, you have to know how to be assertive and nice at the same time.
• 26:23
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, because nobody's listening to you.
• 26:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, because that's a lot, that's a big family.
• 26:27
  Lamar Shealey: It's a big family.
• 26:28
  Lamar Shealey: Um, but I want to get more to small businesses, being able to help people out and you know, grow their business and grow with them.
• 26:35
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 26:35
  Vipul Bindra: And that's a good uh partnership to have with Quintin because you know his primary thing is trying to go to businesses and things like that.
• 26:43
  Vipul Bindra: So I think you guys can that's what I'm saying.
• 26:45
  Vipul Bindra: It's a good good person to have a studio partnership with.
• 26:49
  Vipul Bindra: Um now, uh, have you decided like uh how you're gonna promote the studio and thing?
• 26:54
  Vipul Bindra: I know last time I checked, he was still trying to get things kind of going, you know, getting finalized or whatever.
• 27:00
  Lamar Shealey: Quinn, this is for you.
• 27:01
  Lamar Shealey: So, you know, my life my life is um busy, especially towards the end of the school year.
• 27:06
  Lamar Shealey: So I was really, really hands-on in the beginning, January, February, and then you know, end of school year, you know, when you own a business, there's all kinds of stuff you have to fill out because I was I'm running the school, I'm principal, I'm doing the grades, I'm teaching gymnastics season because my son's in gymnastics is that same around that same time um he and he went to um nationals this year, so like every other weekend.
• 27:32
  Lamar Shealey: Thank you.
• 27:33
  Lamar Shealey: So every other weekend I'm out of town, or I'm doing this, I'm doing that, and I I I I wasn't going ghost from the business, it was just I had no time.
• 27:42
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 27:43
  Lamar Shealey: And this is the time, you know, this was a very pivotal moment in his in his gymnastics career, getting up to the next level with um, it's called optionals, where they get to do some of the fancier things.
• 27:54
  Lamar Shealey: So it's like this was the last year of him doing where he had to do certain routines, and it was a hard, hard routines, too.
• 28:00
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm I'm back more more or less full force trying to go at it.
• 28:05
  Lamar Shealey: So we've been trying to make content, um, get people in the studio to film content, and um I'm trying to convince Quentin to do his uh his podcast and everything.
• 28:16
  Lamar Shealey: I need to do it.
• 28:17
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, you guys have a space now, right?
• 28:18
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, we have to space ready to go.
• 28:19
  Lamar Shealey: So it's it's just getting him to do it, getting me to do it, you know, and we're used to being behind the camera and in front of the camera.
• 28:26
  Lamar Shealey: Like, you know, yeah, this is tough.
• 28:28
  Vipul Bindra: I get it.
• 28:29
  Lamar Shealey: It's it's tough, you know, and sometimes you have to put yourself out there in order to get your business out.
• 28:34
  Lamar Shealey: So now it's time to get us out there.
• 28:37
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 28:37
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, because uh initially, like I said, like you said, these months have been mostly getting the space ready, right?
• 28:43
  Vipul Bindra: Because not only, as far as I know, Quinton was uh like and you you like you say you've been running the school, doing your photography, he's also running, you know, his jobs, and then at the same time, anytime you find time, like he was telling me he was there late nights, you know, trying to paint, get the the seamless up or whatever, you know, getting the control room ready.
• 29:02
  Vipul Bindra: And it's come a long way.
• 29:03
  Vipul Bindra: I remember being there initially, and I was like, wow, this looks like a lot of work.
• 29:08
  Vipul Bindra: And then I was there recently when I rented the his FX6, and I was like, wow, this come like this looks like the podcast rooms, like an actual podcast room.
• 29:17
  Vipul Bindra: There's actually cameras.
• 29:18
  Vipul Bindra: I have no idea where you're acquiring so much money because there's so much gear here.
• 29:22
  Vipul Bindra: Because you know, there was like so many, I know, and his obsession black magic.
• 29:26
  Vipul Bindra: The amount of black magic cameras that you guys uh have now in that studio is crazy.
• 29:31
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, so one cool thing about black magic cameras to get on gear a little bit.
• 29:34
  Lamar Shealey: Oh, he's got to you too, okay, is well when you're okay.
• 29:38
  Lamar Shealey: So right now, you know, you're using the using um zona cameras, right?
• 29:42
  Lamar Shealey: Uh-huh.
• 29:43
  Lamar Shealey: So with using black magic cameras through the ATEM, you can camera control a lot of things.
• 29:48
  Lamar Shealey: So it makes it so now, hey, instead of walking to the camera, you can just do it from there.
• 29:53
  Lamar Shealey: Just get a log on your computer and do all the stuff.
• 29:55
  Lamar Shealey: So and it puts out a great image.
• 29:57
  Lamar Shealey: Now, I did my first shoot using the 6Ks, um, and oh my goodness, the footage is massive.
• 30:05
  Lamar Shealey: Yes.
• 30:06
  Lamar Shealey: Well, actually, it's my second one.
• 30:07
  Lamar Shealey: One of them I did, it was almost a terabyte of data.
• 30:12
  Vipul Bindra: What were you recording in?
• 30:13
  Vipul Bindra: Were you recording B-Raw or something different?
• 30:15
  Lamar Shealey: B-Raw, the first one.
• 30:16
  Lamar Shealey: I it wasn't my camera, it was another person's camera, and we were shooting a like a gospel concert.
• 30:21
  Lamar Shealey: And that was the catch-all camera.
• 30:23
  Lamar Shealey: He didn't fully set it up right now that I know a little bit more about it.
• 30:26
  Lamar Shealey: Wait, B-Raw, I don't know what codec he used.
• 30:30
  Lamar Shealey: And I said, okay, give me the footage.
• 30:32
  Lamar Shealey: I'm gonna take it back.
• 30:33
  Lamar Shealey: I was editing it, and I dumped that footage.
• 30:36
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, oh man, I need another hard drive just to keep this footage.
• 30:41
  Lamar Shealey: It was 900 and something gigs.
• 30:43
  Vipul Bindra: Wow, that's a lot of yeah, and 800 and something gigs.
• 30:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and it depends on the con uh the compression.
• 30:48
  Vipul Bindra: So I think you can select obviously different compressions for 12 to 1 is probably the best one.
• 30:53
  Vipul Bindra: Probably uh the the most one.
• 30:54
  Vipul Bindra: And obviously, the more compressed it is, I'm sure it's harder on the computer or whatever to edit.
• 30:59
  Vipul Bindra: But then it gives you more, you know, reasonable file sizes.
• 31:02
  Vipul Bindra: And that's my entire thing.
• 31:03
  Vipul Bindra: You know, raw is amazing, but it does take a lot of data, yeah.
• 31:08
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 31:08
  Vipul Bindra: It has its place.
• 31:09
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, if you need it, then absolutely, but then you are gonna deal with the data, the extra workflow and stuff like that.
• 31:16
  Vipul Bindra: Do you do you do resolve for editing?
• 31:18
  Vipul Bindra: No.
• 31:18
  Lamar Shealey: No, so you gotta even have Yeah, so that first shoot, and it was around Thanksgiving, so we went to um we went to my brother-in-law and sister-in-law's house in New Jersey, yes.
• 31:32
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm sitting at the table while they're, you know, like sleep.
• 31:35
  Lamar Shealey: My brother's he's in his doctoral to pro program, and he's studying, and I'm over there editing footage.
• 31:42
  Vipul Bindra: Why were you using Premier?
• 31:43
  Lamar Shealey: I was using Premiere at the kitchen table, and he's in the room doing his homework because that's crazy.
• 31:49
  Vipul Bindra: Were you at least using uh M1 style computers so it was faster?
• 31:53
  Lamar Shealey: Also, I have an M1, but um it actually doesn't edit too bad.
• 31:56
  Lamar Shealey: It's just getting over the fact of learning how to take that footage and put it in there and you know using LUTs and all that, getting it transferred over.
• 32:05
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and actually being able to take advantage of Raw.
• 32:08
  Vipul Bindra: I've heard again, I'm not an expert on it.
• 32:10
  Lamar Shealey: They had just created a plug-in for it.
• 32:12
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, because you want to make sure that's actually changing RAW, not just manipulating whatever you have in there because then you lose the purpose of RAW, right?
• 32:20
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, so but um yeah, I was like, okay, I need to learn this a little bit more.
• 32:25
  Lamar Shealey: Then I started that after that, then I got hooked up more with Quentin and I did a shoot with somebody and it was a couple minutes and it was like 200 gigs.
• 32:35
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I mean, hey, there's nothing wrong with black magic cameras, they're amazing.
• 32:39
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, but yeah, he's uh some extra obsessed.
• 32:41
  Vipul Bindra: Like every time I go there, I'm like, there's more cameras, and they're all black magic cameras cameras, right?
• 32:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 32:46
  Vipul Bindra: That's uh and I'm pretty sure you go another month, it'll be 10.
• 32:49
  Vipul Bindra: I've at least that's what it feels like to me.
• 32:52
  Vipul Bindra: Uh but again, that that works for him, you know.
• 32:55
  Vipul Bindra: That's his workflow.
• 32:56
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I know he finally added a Sony camera because he's an FX6.
• 32:59
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, he added that last year.
• 33:01
  Lamar Shealey: Now I use Sony, I've been using Sony for a while.
• 33:03
  Lamar Shealey: I bought an uh A7 III, that was my first camera.
• 33:06
  Lamar Shealey: Well, second camera.
• 33:07
  Lamar Shealey: I was Nikon before.
• 33:09
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 33:09
  Lamar Shealey: Um, so I got an A73 and an A74.
• 33:12
  Lamar Shealey: I like them.
• 33:13
  Lamar Shealey: And now it's just then we got a deal on the um Black Magic 6K pros for the studio.
• 33:18
  Lamar Shealey: Now I'm like, okay, what do I want to go to next for my kit?
• 33:22
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 33:22
  Lamar Shealey: So I don't know.
• 33:23
  Vipul Bindra: I'm looking at the A74s is a pretty good camera.
• 33:26
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, FXC could be a good add-on to it too for video, you know.
• 33:29
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 33:30
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, because you you uh I don't know if FXC would be good for just photos.
• 33:33
  Vipul Bindra: I'd be like, No, no, I wouldn't use it for photos at all.
• 33:35
  Vipul Bindra: So I'm like, so it may be good to uh add an FX3 or FX30 to it or something like that.
• 33:41
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so which as we were looking, Sony has increased prices on camera, so yeah, bad time to be thinking about buying cameras.
• 33:47
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, but you know, as you uh you would think used market wouldn't affect from that, but yes, you know, people are gonna jack up their sale prices.
• 33:55
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, it's it is what it is, but um I'm I'm not in the market yet for it, but I know most likely an FX3 or FX6 is probably my next go.
• 34:05
  Lamar Shealey: But hearing um in the group chat that we have with the other filmmakers, and I think the FX3 might be the first place for me to go because then my A7 IV is the sec is the B Cam.
• 34:15
  Lamar Shealey: And then when I shoot photography, A74 transfers over to my A CAM, and then my you know, so exactly.
• 34:22
  Vipul Bindra: Plus, the other thing, the advantage you would have is uh Quentin has an FX6.
• 34:26
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Vipul Bindra: So if you needed it, you don't have to go far to grab an FX6.
• 34:29
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 34:29
  Vipul Bindra: And it has its uses, like I said, we use it, we create great created great images from his FX6.
• 34:35
  Vipul Bindra: We had two of mine and one of his there.
• 34:37
  Vipul Bindra: And uh I really like FX6, like I said, it creates a really nice uh like I said, footage.
• 34:42
  Vipul Bindra: The roll-off is nice, uh the photo, uh the uh the video's detailed, the load it is nice, but again, if you're doing corporate stuff, then FX3 can work too.
• 34:53
  Vipul Bindra: It's not like that important too.
• 34:55
  Lamar Shealey: Build it up a little bit just to make it look beefy.
• 34:57
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you add an indie filter, you know, functionality.
• 35:00
  Vipul Bindra: It's not 100% the same, but most corporate people wouldn't notice.
• 35:04
  Vipul Bindra: Now, if you're trying to fit in other people's workflow, that can be nice.
• 35:07
  Vipul Bindra: For example, like right here, I had two FX6s, so it made more sense to have an FX3 to match.
• 35:12
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 35:13
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but so I guess there's users for both, and again, if you have access to both, that'd be the key.
• 35:18
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 35:18
  Vipul Bindra: And I know he doesn't have an FX3, so that may make more sense for you to have an FX6.
• 35:22
  Lamar Shealey: And that's why that's one of the reasons why I was thinking about it as well.
• 35:25
  Lamar Shealey: It's like you have FX6, I have FX3.
• 35:28
  Lamar Shealey: When you take both of them out, boom, we have both.
• 35:30
  Lamar Shealey: Instead of you having to buy everything, because you know he has 50 million cameras.
• 35:34
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I talk about just cameras, racks and racks and so you know, not that many people can what do you call give me a run?
• 35:42
  Vipul Bindra: Because I feel like I have most more than anyone in Florida.
• 35:46
  Vipul Bindra: But Quentin comes close, is what I'm saying.
• 35:48
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah, he yep.
• 35:50
  Vipul Bindra: Um, yep.
• 35:51
  Vipul Bindra: It's a lot of cut man, and stuff that's kind of specialty live stream.
• 35:55
  Vipul Bindra: So, you know, I do like a lot of live streaming too, this decent chunk of money for us, but I do more corporate stuff.
• 36:01
  Vipul Bindra: I think he's uh but he's a go-to guy for me.
• 36:04
  Vipul Bindra: Anytime I'm thinking of coding for a project for a bigger stream than what I would normally handle.
• 36:09
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, he's a good partner.
• 36:10
  Vipul Bindra: I always think of him like, oh, if I need racks and racks of equipment, who am I gonna call?
• 36:15
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, Quentin.
• 36:16
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I mean the stuff adds up really quick.
• 36:18
  Lamar Shealey: Um at my church, we have an A10 mini um extreme.
• 36:22
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 36:22
  Lamar Shealey: ISO, so that's eight cameras, and you know, eight inputs.
• 36:26
  Vipul Bindra: You think that's a lot, it is nothing, as soon as you outputs, because it only gives you two outputs.
• 36:30
  Vipul Bindra: It only gives you two outputs.
• 36:32
  Lamar Shealey: But even besides that, once you add in uh a presenter rig, a pro presenter rig, and if you really want to do it the right way with lower thirds coming out of it and everything, that's that could be four outputs right there.
• 36:44
  Lamar Shealey: So, like that's half of it.
• 36:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 36:46
  Vipul Bindra: And those are HDMIs if you want STI, but that doesn't work.
• 36:50
  Vipul Bindra: So now you're adding a constellation to your kit.
• 36:52
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, anyway, yeah.
• 36:54
  Vipul Bindra: Then you need a video hub, then you're adding that.
• 36:56
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you need to do green screen, you're adding an ultimat.
• 36:59
  Vipul Bindra: Hey, I mean, people listening to this, if you have no idea what we're talking about, please do not research.
• 37:04
  Vipul Bindra: You will you will be broke very fast.
• 37:06
  Vipul Bindra: So we just got an Ultimat, too, because we went to Infocom.
• 37:09
  Lamar Shealey: We've been thinking about doing more green screen work, and of course, the ATMs can do green screen work, yeah.
• 37:14
  Vipul Bindra: Very limited, but yeah, it's not at that high quality.
• 37:16
  Vipul Bindra: Ultimat, it's a different level of green screen work, yeah.
• 37:19
  Lamar Shealey: Right before we came here, we were working on it, and it's just it's it's it's amazing.
• 37:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 37:24
  Vipul Bindra: See, uh again, if you're doing basic news style stuff, low-end green screen, then 80 is fine.
• 37:30
  Vipul Bindra: I like the built-in, you know, chroma key stuff that it has.
• 37:33
  Vipul Bindra: But Ultimat is like actually usable stuff or like higher end stuff.
• 37:39
  Vipul Bindra: Like, I wouldn't mind it keying live for I mean, I uh a decent size video is what I'm saying.
• 37:44
  Vipul Bindra: It's it's very clean, like it's like re-spending time on an NLE trying to clean up the is it yeah, the Mac.
• 37:52
  Lamar Shealey: Uh first day I brought it, I got it off eBay, you know.
• 37:54
  Lamar Shealey: Gotta get the use price, get the deal to try it out.
• 37:57
  Lamar Shealey: And then um went to the studio, just hooked it up real quick and did it.
• 38:01
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, wow, I didn't even really change too many settings on it, and it looks amazing.
• 38:06
  Lamar Shealey: And it took us hours to get it to look similar to this on the ATEM.
• 38:11
  Lamar Shealey: I don't even want to go back, I don't even want to use the ATM anymore for green screen.
• 38:14
  Vipul Bindra: No, and once you play with this, I'm pretty sure you can get like again.
• 38:17
  Vipul Bindra: The thing about green screen is as you know, it's those you know, random hairs that are flowing away, right?
• 38:22
  Vipul Bindra: It's the detail that gets lost.
• 38:24
  Vipul Bindra: And I think Ultimat, obviously, once you play with it, can get those back without having to spend hours, you know, keying, masking, whatever.
• 38:31
  Lamar Shealey: If you brought it in here right now, had a green screen, and pressed this um did it or his own settings on it, it would look probably 80, 80, 75, 80% there.
• 38:42
  Vipul Bindra: Look at that, and that's really good.
• 38:44
  Vipul Bindra: For me, if if you're shooting me, you wouldn't need to do anything else.
• 38:46
  Vipul Bindra: Probably not, yeah.
• 38:47
  Lamar Shealey: It's only the little bit of you know editing, you know, a little bit of this and that, and but once you really get into it, which we're gonna be getting into in the next couple weeks, um, it's oh man, when we went to the show, they had a lady with uh we went to Infocom.
• 39:01
  Lamar Shealey: They had a lady with bleach blonde hair.
• 39:04
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 39:04
  Lamar Shealey: She's going like this.
• 39:05
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 39:05
  Lamar Shealey: And when I tell you, like it, there was no fraying on it.
• 39:09
  Lamar Shealey: And it was just amazing.
• 39:11
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, absolutely cool.
• 39:13
  Vipul Bindra: How was that?
• 39:13
  Vipul Bindra: How how was attending Infocom?
• 39:15
  Lamar Shealey: It was it was great.
• 39:17
  Lamar Shealey: Um, it was great.
• 39:18
  Lamar Shealey: I had a lot of fun.
• 39:19
  Lamar Shealey: That was my first time going to one of those.
• 39:21
  Lamar Shealey: One for technology and uh video technology.
• 39:25
  Lamar Shealey: So got a chance to see a lot of stuff that uh never seen before and things that I've seen online, and you know, I I do dabble in audio as well, so I got to see some of the um audio consoles that I've like, you know, probably will never touch again.
• 39:39
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and then you just get to touch it and play with it.
• 39:41
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, like you know, oh, this is a hundred thousand dollar.
• 39:43
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, and you can just mess with it because they want you to, you know, exactly.
• 39:47
  Lamar Shealey: So yeah, I got to mess with a Digico, uh Digico.
• 39:51
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, those things are they're crazy.
• 39:53
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, yeah, never mind.
• 39:56
  Vipul Bindra: What made you get out of that?
• 39:57
  Vipul Bindra: So you're you're saying you've left music totally behind?
• 40:00
  Lamar Shealey: Well um, doing music, I still play the piano.
• 40:03
  Lamar Shealey: Um, I still sing some.
• 40:04
  Lamar Shealey: I'm kind of like a backup musician, but uh, and the musicians at my church kind of ask me, Hey, hey, we just need to get you for a Sunday every once in a while to come play.
• 40:13
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, that's cool, but y'all gotta learn music and the music, yeah.
• 40:18
  Lamar Shealey: I have to learn it.
• 40:19
  Lamar Shealey: I have to practice.
• 40:20
  Lamar Shealey: I don't have to.
• 40:20
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, yes, you do have to practice and work on your craft when it comes to video, but I don't have to sit home and make sure that it's this exact way to make it for the show.
• 40:29
  Lamar Shealey: And if I mess up at the show Then yeah, he'll he'll ruin it.
• 40:33
  Lamar Shealey: Oh man, I went to verse two instead of verse one, and it's totally different chords, and I still I still love music.
• 40:40
  Lamar Shealey: It's yeah, I'm always gonna love it, and I'm always gonna, you know, do it, but um, I didn't uh it's weird.
• 40:48
  Lamar Shealey: I don't miss it as much as I thought I would.
• 40:50
  Vipul Bindra: And that's when you know that you know video or photo may be the more passionate thing for you.
• 40:55
  Vipul Bindra: And you know what's crazy for me, I'm envious of people who can do music because I have no music in me.
• 41:00
  Vipul Bindra: I can tell you the music works for a video.
• 41:02
  Vipul Bindra: That's my limit of it.
• 41:03
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, I I have no beat in me, quite literally.
• 41:06
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm like, and this is so funny because I can I can take a video apart, I know exactly when the cut should be or if it's off timed or whatever.
• 41:13
  Vipul Bindra: I'm fine with that.
• 41:14
  Vipul Bindra: Like, but talk about music, I'm like, I don't know.
• 41:17
  Vipul Bindra: I think that's what um I was born with what what's the word for it when you're tone deaf?
• 41:22
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I'm tone.
• 41:25
  Lamar Shealey: I have some good friends that are tone deaf with singing, but they know music better than a lot of musicians I know.
• 41:31
  Lamar Shealey: They know the person who sings, they didn't know all the words.
• 41:34
  Lamar Shealey: You kind of want them to teach them all that stuff and just say, just don't sing it.
• 41:38
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 41:39
  Vipul Bindra: Maybe that's who I am, because I do know about music.
• 41:41
  Lamar Shealey: I'm just yeah, I am like I'm I'm I don't remember names, I don't remember lyrics anymore.
• 41:46
  Lamar Shealey: It's crazy.
• 41:46
  Lamar Shealey: I it's it's it's like who sang that song?
• 41:49
  Lamar Shealey: I know how it goes.
• 41:50
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you would probably sing it, you know, for the little bit of practice.
• 41:54
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly.
• 41:54
  Lamar Shealey: So, but you know, I still like doing sound.
• 41:57
  Lamar Shealey: Um, but it I mean it helped me out a lot during church because I was able to do almost every position when it comes to I I let praise and worship for for a while.
• 42:09
  Lamar Shealey: Um played the piano.
• 42:11
  Lamar Shealey: Um I started I was starting to learn other instruments, but that kind of went away.
• 42:16
  Lamar Shealey: And then um I could hop on at any point in time and at least do a little something.
• 42:21
  Lamar Shealey: Musicians late because it's raining or a car accident in front of them.
• 42:25
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, right.
• 42:25
  Vipul Bindra: I'll hop on real quick.
• 42:26
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you'll play some some stuff, right?
• 42:28
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 42:29
  Vipul Bindra: That's that's pretty cool.
• 42:30
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, like I say, it's good to be versatile, and it's good that you did that, which led you to where you are now and what you're doing.
• 42:36
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, I think you guys are doing great things.
• 42:38
  Vipul Bindra: Obviously, I feel like you're spending a lot of money, but that's what you gotta do.
• 42:43
  Vipul Bindra: You gotta invest to get it back.
• 42:44
  Vipul Bindra: Because you know, you guys built the studio, like you say, you bought an Ultimat, uh, and obviously Quentin's always acquiring equipment, a lot of black magic cameras.
• 42:52
  Vipul Bindra: It looks good though.
• 42:53
  Vipul Bindra: I like the idea that, for example, with podcasts, right?
• 42:56
  Vipul Bindra: Like when we offer podcasts, we do custom, right?
• 42:59
  Vipul Bindra: We'll get a nice Airbnb or whatever location for them.
• 43:02
  Vipul Bindra: We'll set it up, but that's a one-time thing.
• 43:04
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, when we're done, we gotta rip it up art.
• 43:06
  Vipul Bindra: So it's a lot of setup time, a lot of breakdown time.
• 43:09
  Vipul Bindra: But it's really good to have a space where you're like, hey, this is the set, cameras are ready, you go, it's already attached to control room.
• 43:15
  Vipul Bindra: Like you said, it already controls with the ATEM.
• 43:17
  Vipul Bindra: So you sit down, we can start, we can cut right there and then.
• 43:21
  Vipul Bindra: Here's your file, all right?
• 43:22
  Vipul Bindra: You could probably even upload it for them from there on.
• 43:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, uh, it makes it easy for the client, right?
• 43:27
  Vipul Bindra: Because you're like, what do we have to do?
• 43:29
  Vipul Bindra: Nothing.
• 43:30
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm sure it's easy on both of your sides because like what do you have to do?
• 43:34
  Vipul Bindra: Nothing.
• 43:34
  Vipul Bindra: Because it's already there.
• 43:35
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I guess you have to execute it when they sit down.
• 43:37
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, but you there's no setup time, there's no teardown time, there's no figuring it out because it's already been figured out once.
• 43:43
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I mean, there's a little bit of setup time 'cause sometimes people want to, you know, sit like this.
• 43:48
  Lamar Shealey: They might want to sit in tall boys, so little stuff here and there, but you know, figuring out how dare they be tall.
• 43:54
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Vipul Bindra: Anyway.
• 43:56
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 43:56
  Lamar Shealey: So but figuring, you know, is it it is fairly Simple, yeah.
• 44:01
  Lamar Shealey: What we're trying to do.
• 44:02
  Lamar Shealey: And I think you know, once we get this started and get it going, you know, the other side, we're probably gonna be moving over there soon and possibly building out another set just to have some options and then you know, it's it I think it fits a lot of people, it's just finding those people that are ready.
• 44:20
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 44:21
  Vipul Bindra: What about the school then?
• 44:22
  Vipul Bindra: If you start taking over the other side too, because obviously you have one side, right?
• 44:26
  Vipul Bindra: And you have the school on the other side.
• 44:28
  Vipul Bindra: So are you gonna move school somewhere or what we leave at school?
• 44:31
  Lamar Shealey: So a little back history, my mother started at daycare when I was in elementary middle school.
• 44:37
  Vipul Bindra: Okay.
• 44:38
  Lamar Shealey: So she used to take care of old people when we're in California, then she moved here and started taking care of kids.
• 44:43
  Lamar Shealey: So she had that going and then she bought a building.
• 44:47
  Lamar Shealey: So that building is still there.
• 44:48
  Lamar Shealey: It's just we grew out of that building, and you know, through you know, the C-word, we kind of had to restrict it back down and kind of took a lot of students away.
• 44:57
  Lamar Shealey: Some graduated and we couldn't go out and recruit like we used to recruit.
• 45:01
  Lamar Shealey: We used to you know, oh man, my mom used to be out there every other weekend recruiting, but a lot of the live stuff that happened in person went away.
• 45:08
  Lamar Shealey: Florida virtual school, a lot of kids started doing that as well.
• 45:12
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I think that time was just a reset for everything.
• 45:14
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, right.
• 45:15
  Lamar Shealey: So and interestingly enough, one of our teachers on toward the last semester, she moved to Tanzania in Africa.
• 45:21
  Lamar Shealey: So she was teaching our kids, my son actually from Tanzania, because she's like she could do it remotely.
• 45:26
  Lamar Shealey: So it was kind of cool.
• 45:28
  Lamar Shealey: So we still actually have another building to work in.
• 45:31
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 45:32
  Lamar Shealey: So now everything is moving back there to kind of rebuild that.
• 45:36
  Vipul Bindra: So that's where the school's gonna then run out of.
• 45:38
  Vipul Bindra: Makes sense.
• 45:39
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, and then this area, this location's gonna be just a studio, right?
• 45:43
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, just a studio.
• 45:43
  Lamar Shealey: We're gonna be probably renting it out for some other things as well on the other side.
• 45:47
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 45:47
  Lamar Shealey: But you know, it's uh it's it's an undertaking.
• 45:50
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, it's it's a lot.
• 45:51
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, uh uh just the little that I watch you guys do, it's a lot.
• 45:55
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, because I know what how much what it took to make this space happen, right?
• 45:59
  Vipul Bindra: And this is just uh, like I said, just a garage that I made into a studio and and it's beautiful, yeah.
• 46:03
  Vipul Bindra: Well, thank you.
• 46:04
  Vipul Bindra: But yeah, I mean at the end of the day, yeah, just doing like I said, all we did was floor, some paint, some panels, you know, air conditioning, insulating.
• 46:10
  Vipul Bindra: You know, it's it's not the I'm saying a lot of construction, yeah, but just like yours, it was it sounds like oh, just they painted it, put some scene.
• 46:17
  Vipul Bindra: No, it's when you think about yeah, how much you you actually put in and it it's a it's a lot, it takes a lot of time.
• 46:24
  Vipul Bindra: Like we were, like I said, hands and knees, and plus continue to run a business.
• 46:27
  Vipul Bindra: Because like I said, I I was like I said, going to shoots, coming back, you know, hammer this, hammer that, and then you know, plus learning, because I'm like I'm not a construction worker, so it's like, oh, what's the best way to mount these?
• 46:39
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, uh, you know, how do we how do we hide the nails, for example, right?
• 46:43
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, we gotta figure it out and everything, you know, it's a step.
• 46:46
  Vipul Bindra: It's a step.
• 46:47
  Vipul Bindra: And then uh yeah, but uh ultimately, like I said, I love the result.
• 46:50
  Vipul Bindra: Now that it's been done, we've been using it uh for what I wanted to get out of the space.
• 46:55
  Vipul Bindra: This is perfect.
• 46:56
  Vipul Bindra: And like I said, already look at that.
• 46:58
  Vipul Bindra: We're having this conversation right here because we built this space.
• 47:01
  Lamar Shealey: Sometimes I hey, what did they say?
• 47:03
  Lamar Shealey: If you build it, they will come.
• 47:04
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, there you go.
• 47:04
  Vipul Bindra: I built it.
• 47:06
  Lamar Shealey: Yep, or if you build it, you will use it.
• 47:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I will yeah, because this is more like yeah, obviously, our hangout space.
• 47:11
  Vipul Bindra: I don't get clients here or anything.
• 47:13
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, we did do one shoot here and it went incredible, but that's not the goal, obviously, this dislocation.
• 47:18
  Vipul Bindra: This was just place to house gear, place to have a workspace, place to do the podcast, you know, or maybe some YouTube or whatever, just basic stuff.
• 47:27
  Vipul Bindra: And I think for that, this is more than enough.
• 47:29
  Vipul Bindra: Plus, it is there's no cost to this.
• 47:31
  Vipul Bindra: I don't have any rent.
• 47:32
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I have a mortgage, but I was always gonna have the mortgage.
• 47:34
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 47:35
  Vipul Bindra: So this doesn't add to the AC unit.
• 47:39
  Vipul Bindra: That's like yeah, there you go.
• 47:40
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that which takes up.
• 47:41
  Vipul Bindra: I I didn't realize how much uh electricity costs when you're running an AC 24-7.
• 47:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, somehow I I cooled the whole house there, and that costs less than cooling this space, even after insulating it.
• 47:54
  Vipul Bindra: By the way, most places, you know, the garage is insulated, right?
• 47:57
  Vipul Bindra: We made sure the ceiling is insulated, the floor is insulated, the door is insulated, and it's still like my bill almost doubled, you know.
• 48:04
  Vipul Bindra: Wow, because it's 24-7, it's Florida, you know.
• 48:06
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, obviously it's fine.
• 48:08
  Vipul Bindra: It was fine January because it wasn't the hottest, but yeah, man, after that, you know how it's Florida, yeah.
• 48:13
  Vipul Bindra: It's so hot, like it's just running 24-7.
• 48:15
  Vipul Bindra: Imagine running those racks.
• 48:17
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, wow, yeah.
• 48:18
  Lamar Shealey: The AC at the studio, even if we're not there, I just keep it at a constant temperature.
• 48:23
  Lamar Shealey: It actually works pretty good.
• 48:24
  Lamar Shealey: The AC, the I it's not a good thing.
• 48:26
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, you probably have a commercial there though.
• 48:28
  Lamar Shealey: That's why, yeah.
• 48:29
  Vipul Bindra: Because that's why if you notice, my rack is not in here.
• 48:31
  Vipul Bindra: That's why my rack is in there that you were mentioning.
• 48:33
  Vipul Bindra: Because yeah, I don't want that to be in here than it would be.
• 48:36
  Vipul Bindra: Oh my goodness.
• 48:36
  Lamar Shealey: You get in that room and it really starts working, it and the AC is at full blast, and you're like, is the AC on?
• 48:42
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly.
• 48:43
  Lamar Shealey: No, yes, it is on, it's been on all day.
• 48:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so I'm guessing Quentin's a more technical out of the two of you.
• 48:49
  Vipul Bindra: Um or you think you're technical too?
• 48:52
  Lamar Shealey: Um, he has more experience with the equipment that we have.
• 48:54
  Lamar Shealey: I'm very technical too.
• 48:56
  Lamar Shealey: Um it's you know, meeting somebody that's more technical than me was interesting because that doesn't always happen.
• 49:02
  Lamar Shealey: I was always the technical one.
• 49:04
  Lamar Shealey: I was always the one tinkering with stuff.
• 49:05
  Lamar Shealey: It's like, hey, Quentin loves tinker up with stuff too.
• 49:08
  Lamar Shealey: So I was sitting in the I was sitting in the studio the other day, just lent hearing him explain some of the stuff.
• 49:13
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, of course I understand I understand it now.
• 49:15
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, um, and I was like, Quentin, do you know that you're a genius?
• 49:18
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, don't let anybody tell you anything different.
• 49:21
  Vipul Bindra: No, he's he's a great guy.
• 49:22
  Vipul Bindra: My issue with Quentin is the opposite.
• 49:23
  Vipul Bindra: Believe it or not, I love talking about what we do, right?
• 49:26
  Vipul Bindra: Video Yes, uh, you know, video production, just tech gear in general.
• 49:32
  Vipul Bindra: Problem I have with Quentin, Quentin's just like me.
• 49:35
  Vipul Bindra: So he and I, if I start talking, I'll get no work done.
• 49:38
  Vipul Bindra: We'll be there hours talking, and I'm like, holy moly.
• 49:41
  Vipul Bindra: And we can and and it's not a bad, I'm saying I love that, but I'm like, if I start doing that, my business will shut down if Quentin and I got become business partners because uh so there was a while we were thinking about it, and I was like, because I wanted to run like an A V company.
• 49:55
  Vipul Bindra: There was a debate between for me, because you know that's his thing, right?
• 49:58
  Vipul Bindra: I do live streaming, but it's to help brands, that's the the limit of how what we do.
• 50:04
  Vipul Bindra: He obviously can go deeper, you know.
• 50:05
  Vipul Bindra: I'm saying doing a whole whole A V thing.
• 50:08
  Vipul Bindra: So we were thinking about it, and I was like, I genuinely was like, this guy's so like me and so gearhead and so tech that if I he and I became partners, we would just sit and talk and talk for hours, nothing's actually going to happen.
• 50:24
  Vipul Bindra: And then go and be an H and buy.
• 50:25
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly, and buy, yeah, right.
• 50:26
  Vipul Bindra: I I don't need somebody who would be the opposite, who tell me do not buy.
• 50:30
  Vipul Bindra: Believe it or not, I literally was like, This year I'm gonna buy less gear.
• 50:33
  Vipul Bindra: $40,000, $50,000 later, in the last 30 days.
• 50:37
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, you saw walking in, I'm like, what am I doing?
• 50:39
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, to be real, again, everything had a reason, but still, yes, I don't need a Quentin in my life as well.
• 50:44
  Vipul Bindra: I always find a reason.
• 50:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, right, which is why I don't need another Quentin to find me more reasons to buy.
• 50:50
  Vipul Bindra: We're both married, we know.
• 50:52
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, we know, yeah, exactly.
• 50:53
  Lamar Shealey: They can say, hey, yeah, oh, I could buy these other shoes, I could buy this other outfit, and yeah, we can buy another camera.
• 51:00
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so like right there, I was justifying, you know, I was like, Oh, I gotta acquire an FX2, you know, because I need a photography camera, you know, but also needed to be video, you know.
• 51:10
  Vipul Bindra: That's just yeah, that that's just a constant thing.
• 51:13
  Vipul Bindra: Um, I also want to talk about.
• 51:15
  Vipul Bindra: So we I have a client that I've been helping through my chamber, uh, Austin Arthur.
• 51:21
  Vipul Bindra: He runs like a management company, we can call it, right?
• 51:24
  Vipul Bindra: Like an agency, advertising agency.
• 51:26
  Vipul Bindra: So, anyway, he'll call me sporadically.
• 51:28
  Vipul Bindra: It's just one of those clients that I've known for a few years.
• 51:31
  Vipul Bindra: I'm happy to help him, uh, but nothing you know, major or whatever.
• 51:34
  Vipul Bindra: Anyway, so he calls me for this shoot earlier this year, and it was for and they he with his uh brother co-ones the gymnastics location.
• 51:41
  Vipul Bindra: And I've been always wanting to film that because you know, again, high I like most of the stuff he does a little boring, right?
• 51:47
  Vipul Bindra: So anytime uh people I'm sure people have heard this by now.
• 51:50
  Vipul Bindra: Anytime an exciting thing comes up, I'm all for it.
• 51:52
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so he calls me and he's like, Hey, yeah, we're gonna do a shoot for our gymnastics, and I was like, Let's go.
• 51:58
  Vipul Bindra: I even call him annual, like he wasn't part of the shoot.
• 52:00
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, No, you're coming, we're gonna go have a good time.
• 52:03
  Vipul Bindra: I thought it would be like a b-roll, you know, because he didn't tell me a script or anything.
• 52:07
  Vipul Bindra: So uh, so anyway, I was I'm really excited, and and plus, this is the first time he's seen the van because all the stuff I've done is for more for his agency stuff, not for his gymnastics location.
• 52:16
  Vipul Bindra: And so me and Mario show, first of all, the van was the coolest thing ever, right?
• 52:20
  Vipul Bindra: But then they're like, Oh, here's the shoe, here's the script for a commercial.
• 52:24
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, oh, we're shooting a commercial.
• 52:26
  Vipul Bindra: Uh it would be nice to have the script before because I could have prepared better, but you know, corporate shoot, like we'll roll with the punches.
• 52:33
  Vipul Bindra: And uh what's crazy to me is so now we're shooting a commercial, right?
• 52:37
  Vipul Bindra: Me and Mario, I'm like so glad you're here, Mario.
• 52:39
  Vipul Bindra: And uh, but it obviously they they know marketing, they understand, so the script was very tight, you know, like they know what they want to do, where they want to do it.
• 52:46
  Vipul Bindra: So it makes it makes it a lot easier on us to be able to execute that.
• 52:50
  Vipul Bindra: So, anyway, it was a fun day for us.
• 52:51
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, you know, we got to see a lot of cool stuff, uh, a lot of talented gymnastics people, and plus, I was surprised how big that location is huge.
• 53:02
  Vipul Bindra: Like, we only saw first the first half, and then there's like, oh, this is like a whole another this is where the ninjas go.
• 53:08
  Vipul Bindra: This is where they they had the ribbons.
• 53:10
  Vipul Bindra: This is for the pros, right?
• 53:12
  Vipul Bindra: Anyway, and then the anyway, Mario, what do you think about that shoot?
• 53:15
  Vipul Bindra: Do you remember?
• 53:16
  Mario Rangel: Yes, I do.
• 53:17
  Mario Rangel: Yeah, uh, it was really fun.
• 53:19
  Mario Rangel: I uh uh what I like is the um they really know what they wanted, right?
• 53:23
  Mario Rangel: Like uh Austin with all his team, they were okay.
• 53:27
  Mario Rangel: Yeah, they had a whole script never a script that you already know, okay.
• 53:31
  Mario Rangel: Let's do this outside, then we go inside, or let's just go to a ninja section and then to this this section.
• 53:37
  Mario Rangel: So yeah, I think it was great, and we just saw a video, and yeah, it turned out great.
• 53:42
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so before we started, we saw the video.
• 53:44
  Vipul Bindra: So so anyway, I didn't know this.
• 53:46
  Vipul Bindra: So anyway, obviously obviously we did this, we had a good time, it's just a shoot for us, right?
• 53:50
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, and I was like, this is pretty cool.
• 53:52
  Vipul Bindra: The kids are telling obviously they had different ranges, right?
• 53:54
  Vipul Bindra: There's smaller kids, younger kids, and then pros on the other side doing crazy stuff, obviously.
• 53:58
  Vipul Bindra: And so it was really good.
• 54:00
  Vipul Bindra: It was good to get a little bit of everything, and we had a good time.
• 54:02
  Vipul Bindra: But then I didn't know this until later when we were on the pro side, we were actually filming your son because he goes there.
• 54:09
  Lamar Shealey: He goes there, yeah.
• 54:10
  Vipul Bindra: And uh tell tell about that.
• 54:12
  Vipul Bindra: Like, how did that you you so essentially again from my side, I guess, is we were I was visiting, I guess, Quentin the day I rented his FX6, and you were telling me about it about uh the gymnastics place, yeah, and uh and I was like, that was me, and I don't think you knew that, right?
• 54:28
  Vipul Bindra: Like nope, no, so so go ahead.
• 54:30
  Lamar Shealey: I mean uh so um my son does gymnastics and he loves it.
• 54:34
  Lamar Shealey: He started out just by flipping off of everything, and we were like, we gotta get you into gymnastics.
• 54:39
  Lamar Shealey: It was the big C-word, COVID time, and couldn't do anything, and then finally it eased up.
• 54:43
  Lamar Shealey: We're like, we're taking you to gymnastics, and we took them and it just took off.
• 54:48
  Lamar Shealey: And he loves it, he loves doing it.
• 54:50
  Lamar Shealey: And um, I mean, and you didn't really get to see the really cool stuff.
• 54:55
  Lamar Shealey: So, one thing that that gym does, I I love that gym by the way, what they've done for my son, the structure that they've put in place for him because we had to move to there.
• 55:04
  Lamar Shealey: And um they're just really cool people.
• 55:07
  Lamar Shealey: It's a it's a good um It's a good group of parents as well.
• 55:12
  Lamar Shealey: You know, after after meets we go and eat together as a team with the coaches.
• 55:18
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, what?
• 55:20
  Vipul Bindra: What we're eating with the coaches?
• 55:22
  Vipul Bindra: It's so crazy, right?
• 55:23
  Lamar Shealey: Him and his wife, yeah, this lovely people, but um they they really train those kids really hard.
• 55:29
  Lamar Shealey: And and my son loves it.
• 55:32
  Lamar Shealey: The first day he went to that gym, he said, Daddy, I'm sore.
• 55:35
  Lamar Shealey: Oh wow, and he was so worked him out, yeah.
• 55:38
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, and he's like, Yes, I just love this place.
• 55:40
  Lamar Shealey: So and um but the really cool thing, it would have been nice for y'all to come was when they do their actual Olympics, the Mako Olympics for the pre-team.
• 55:51
  Lamar Shealey: Oh man, they had kids, they had my son in the ceiling tiles.
• 55:55
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, wow crazy, and his kid came on the zip line as Spider-Man, and it was yeah, so they do a lot of stuff for the kids, and you know, the the commercial really did turn out great.
• 56:06
  Lamar Shealey: I saw my son's head in it.
• 56:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I know it was like the you know, and obviously we we didn't edit that, so they edited that.
• 56:12
  Vipul Bindra: That was one of those where you know we handled the footage, so I had no idea how they're gonna edit it.
• 56:16
  Vipul Bindra: Obviously, it came out great.
• 56:18
  Vipul Bindra: We watched it, like I said, right before we started, and it was incredible.
• 56:21
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but what's crazy to me is like you said, it's one of the largest facilities, I think, for gymnastics in Florida.
• 56:28
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, and then on top of that, you know, like I said, I know Austin for a while, and I think his brother, and I think it's his wife, who's running this, and they're they're doing great jobs.
• 56:36
  Vipul Bindra: It's good too.
• 56:36
  Vipul Bindra: I've obviously met Alexander at Austin's office, had never met his wife, but I think they're doing great.
• 56:41
  Vipul Bindra: We also got to film, I think, Austin's children there for part of that.
• 56:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, uh, but again, at the time I didn't know.
• 56:47
  Vipul Bindra: I knew you, because we had met and done the Kia thing, that your son goes there.
• 56:51
  Vipul Bindra: So I'm filming, and I think you were talking about, and so it's crazy.
• 56:54
  Vipul Bindra: So we've shot this thing, we've we we moved on, right?
• 56:58
  Vipul Bindra: And then you were telling me about it.
• 56:59
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, What?
• 57:00
  Vipul Bindra: Your son goes there, so I filmed him, and obviously there's way more footage of him that we did.
• 57:04
  Vipul Bindra: Uh obviously, they used what they used, but like it's just such a small world, like you know that we didn't know people between common, and your son's going there, and he's also gonna be um uh like he's you know, like you said, he was in the nationals or whatever, he's he's doing really amazing.
• 57:20
  Vipul Bindra: And uh, I think the way I found out was something about you posted about how it was good the coaches, right?
• 57:25
  Vipul Bindra: Alexander, but and I was like, huh, you know him?
• 57:28
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, then that's what I think I asked you about.
• 57:30
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, you asked me about that.
• 57:31
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, uh, you know, sometimes you just gotta let people know that you appreciate them and put it out there.
• 57:36
  Lamar Shealey: So I just wanted to make sure, you know, maybe he saw it, maybe he didn't.
• 57:38
  Lamar Shealey: I don't know.
• 57:39
  Lamar Shealey: Actually, no, he did see it because he mentioned something.
• 57:41
  Lamar Shealey: He's like, Yeah, I didn't know you did this.
• 57:42
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, Yeah.
• 57:44
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I mean, because they're helping your son, and like you said, what what we talked about, like they're genuinely wanting to, you know, help him and help him grow in his skill and succeed.
• 57:53
  Vipul Bindra: Because, you know, it's again, it's just like us when people do what they like for a living, what they love, it just makes it better, right?
• 57:59
  Vipul Bindra: And then you it's it's nothing but something you want to appreciate.
• 58:02
  Vipul Bindra: Because at the end of the day, you want your son to do his best, and if they want the same thing, then everyone wins, you know, because that's their job.
• 58:09
  Vipul Bindra: But then if they love their job, then your son's gonna do their best and see that and feel that, you know.
• 58:14
  Vipul Bindra: And like I said, I felt it.
• 58:16
  Vipul Bindra: I was only there one day though, so I I my experience is limited, but I think both of us had a great time.
• 58:21
  Vipul Bindra: We're like, this is an awesome place.
• 58:22
  Vipul Bindra: You know, I was there, I was like from both sides, from people who are in experience to who are who are doing the pro side.
• 58:28
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, wow, like everyone is just having a good time.
• 58:31
  Vipul Bindra: And if it was I wish I wasn't in that side, I would send love to send my kids there.
• 58:35
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 58:36
  Vipul Bindra: Um, you know, because uh I genuinely felt like it was a good place, and again, I'm so glad that we have that connect in the yeah, you know, and and that's what I'm talking about.
• 58:44
  Vipul Bindra: You never know who you know where you never know.
• 58:47
  Vipul Bindra: And networking is so huge in what we do.
• 58:50
  Vipul Bindra: You gotta always be go out there, you know, say hello to everyone, try to network.
• 58:55
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, cause uh because again, like I said, the world is very small, yeah.
• 58:58
  Vipul Bindra: And integrity.
• 59:00
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, integrity.
• 59:00
  Lamar Shealey: Integrity is a big thing.
• 59:01
  Lamar Shealey: Um, I can't tell you how many um when I go on a church shoot, now my my pastor, he's he used to preach all around the country a lot.
• 59:10
  Lamar Shealey: Now he's kind of not stepped away from the role, but kind of stepped back um and took back over the church.
• 59:16
  Lamar Shealey: And I'll go to some places and they'll know who I am and where I came from.
• 59:22
  Lamar Shealey: I didn't tell them.
• 59:23
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 59:23
  Lamar Shealey: Um, one time I was I was in Tennessee doing a church conference, just doing photography and some video work for them, recap videos every day.
• 59:32
  Lamar Shealey: And it was like, Yeah, I know exactly who you are.
• 59:35
  Lamar Shealey: I know your team and everything.
• 59:36
  Lamar Shealey: And I and the great thing about it is I my most of my team are teenagers.
• 59:41
  Lamar Shealey: I actually acquired preteens a few years ago.
• 59:45
  Lamar Shealey: I had a kid start it when he was nine, and he's probably one of my best people right now.
• 59:50
  Lamar Shealey: And he's 11, I think.
• 59:52
  Lamar Shealey: 12.
• 59:53
  Lamar Shealey: Well, he just turned 12.
• 59:54
  Lamar Shealey: And um, working with the young people there is just so amazing because like you you s sometimes I sit back and I just like I get everything started and just kind of sit back and let them do their thing.
• 1:00:05
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, it's a spark, right?
• 1:00:06
  Vipul Bindra: So they'll just have the have the spark.
• 1:00:09
  Vipul Bindra: And then I think as a teacher, obviously, uh, you know, I think that's what makes I think also a good teacher, bad teacher, whatever it's like being able to bring that spark out of somebody, right?
• 1:00:19
  Vipul Bindra: I think that's the key.
• 1:00:20
  Vipul Bindra: Because I remember uh growing up anyway, I having teachers who are just like, do this, do this, and I'm like, This is so boring.
• 1:00:27
  Vipul Bindra: And then then teachers who make even boring things interesting, right?
• 1:00:30
  Vipul Bindra: They make you want to be part of it.
• 1:00:32
  Vipul Bindra: And I think so it also goes on to say how good of a teacher you are.
• 1:00:35
  Vipul Bindra: Because if you're bringing these young kids to have more interest in them doing their best, then I I mean that's all they really want, right?
• 1:00:43
  Vipul Bindra: Somebody to pull out that spark out of them, right?
• 1:00:45
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and just and I'd like to try to I tell them, I said, um I know some of you aren't gonna be in this forever.
• 1:00:53
  Lamar Shealey: You know, you're just doing this because you want to do something or your parents made you do it in the beginning, honestly.
• 1:00:58
  Lamar Shealey: Most of them, their parents made them do it in the beginning.
• 1:01:01
  Lamar Shealey: Um, but as they grow to love it, some of them will do this professionally.
• 1:01:06
  Vipul Bindra: And that's how you find out, you know.
• 1:01:08
  Vipul Bindra: Like you said, I'm sure a lot of parents send their kids to the gymnastic location.
• 1:01:12
  Vipul Bindra: Not everyone turns pro like your son is, and that's where the spark is, right?
• 1:01:16
  Vipul Bindra: You have to find it.
• 1:01:16
  Vipul Bindra: You're like, oh wow, yeah, this is and I'm sure the coach notices too, right?
• 1:01:20
  Vipul Bindra: He's like, oh yeah, I gotta I gotta hone the skills of this kid.
• 1:01:23
  Vipul Bindra: He has potential.
• 1:01:24
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and one thing I love about gymnastics is it teaches so much discipline and they have to work at it and it's physical, and and the big thing is even if they e even if he doesn't end up going to college for it, let's just say, because you know, of course, his is he aspires to do it professionally and go to Olympics one day.
• 1:01:43
  Lamar Shealey: But even if that doesn't happen, he just does it and stops when he goes to college, you still learn how to deal with people, deal with adversity, deal with winning, deal with losing, yeah, which is a huge thing.
• 1:01:54
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 1:01:55
  Vipul Bindra: Those are important life skills, important life schools.
• 1:01:57
  Lamar Shealey: You already went through that.
• 1:01:58
  Lamar Shealey: You've you've been at the top, you've been at the bottom.
• 1:02:00
  Lamar Shealey: You've did it where you got all the medals, and you've been there when you got no medals.
• 1:02:05
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  Lamar Shealey: And you know how to deal with it.
• 1:02:06
  Lamar Shealey: And sometimes those are the life lessons that they have to learn that not all kids get a chance to learn.
• 1:02:10
  Lamar Shealey: And yeah, the coach is on them.
• 1:02:13
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, coach, yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Lamar Shealey: Coach Xander is on them.
• 1:02:15
  Lamar Shealey: He was actually coach of the oh, I forgot to tell you, he was coach of the year this year.
• 1:02:18
  Lamar Shealey: Oh, really?
• 1:02:19
  Lamar Shealey: For I didn't know that.
• 1:02:19
  Lamar Shealey: For um USA gymnastics in the whole country.
• 1:02:23
  Vipul Bindra: Wow.
• 1:02:23
  Vipul Bindra: That's awesome.
• 1:02:23
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, they're they're killing it, man.
• 1:02:26
  Vipul Bindra: Both the brothers, they're they're on top of what they're doing.
• 1:02:28
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, Austin's everywhere too.
• 1:02:30
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, he was running for um commissioner, I think.
• 1:02:33
  Vipul Bindra: Uh oh, he was?
• 1:02:34
  Vipul Bindra: I didn't know that.
• 1:02:34
  Vipul Bindra: What was he running for?
• 1:02:36
  Vipul Bindra: Uh I don't know.
• 1:02:36
  Vipul Bindra: It's it's some some office too.
• 1:02:38
  Vipul Bindra: Like, you know, I helped him with some of his campaign stuff.
• 1:02:41
  Vipul Bindra: So yeah, he, you know, they're they're always out, they're out in the community helping people.
• 1:02:44
  Vipul Bindra: We also helped them with uh him with a documentary that he's trying to do for Winter Garden and stuff, East Winter Garden.
• 1:02:50
  Vipul Bindra: So, like I said, they're always out in the community doing something, helping out, and that's awesome.
• 1:02:55
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, it's the same thing for us, like I said.
• 1:02:57
  Vipul Bindra: Quentin's doing the same thing.
• 1:02:59
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I need any help.
• 1:03:00
  Vipul Bindra: Funny is rare.
• 1:03:01
  Vipul Bindra: I know like I said, I I usually have everything and I usually know most of it, but again, even I don't know everything.
• 1:03:07
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, nobody knows everything.
• 1:03:09
  Vipul Bindra: So, and then Quentin's my guy.
• 1:03:10
  Vipul Bindra: Usually, if I don't know anything, he's the one who's gonna know that specific thing.
• 1:03:14
  Vipul Bindra: So, like recently, I was thinking about getting uh live units, you know.
• 1:03:18
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, and uh guess who's called who I called, you know, Quentin Quentin.
• 1:03:22
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, he doesn't answer my phones anymore since the studio because he's busy, but he called me back, you know what I mean?
• 1:03:27
  Vipul Bindra: Like, because uh I know he's he's busy, you know, getting that place uh wherever he wants.
• 1:03:33
  Lamar Shealey: And we're about to go to Africa again in uh about two weeks.
• 1:03:37
  Vipul Bindra: Look at that.
• 1:03:37
  Vipul Bindra: And then how long are you going for this time?
• 1:03:40
  Lamar Shealey: 17 days, I think it is.
• 1:03:41
  Lamar Shealey: 16, 17 days.
• 1:03:43
  Vipul Bindra: It's a long trip.
• 1:03:43
  Lamar Shealey: Yep, he probably he gets back.
• 1:03:44
  Lamar Shealey: Are you taking the Sony or are you black magic?
• 1:03:46
  Lamar Shealey: Um, I'm taking my Sony's.
• 1:03:48
  Lamar Shealey: I'm I'm I'm doing photography for this trip.
• 1:03:50
  Vipul Bindra: So and is he gonna do video?
• 1:03:52
  Lamar Shealey: He's doing video, so it's gonna be fun.
• 1:03:54
  Lamar Shealey: He's taking his FX6.
• 1:03:55
  Lamar Shealey: So that's what I thought.
• 1:03:56
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  Lamar Shealey: Black magic isn't the best for run and gun.
• 1:03:59
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Lamar Shealey: Unless you want to manually focus all the time.
• 1:04:02
  Vipul Bindra: But he's uh no, he's he's good.
• 1:04:04
  Vipul Bindra: And like I said, he like was saying he's knowledgeable about it too.
• 1:04:07
  Vipul Bindra: I called him and he was immediately able to answer my questions because I was like, hey, I want to acquire some of these.
• 1:04:12
  Vipul Bindra: What do you think?
• 1:04:12
  Vipul Bindra: And whatever, whatever.
• 1:04:13
  Vipul Bindra: And he was like, Yeah, this is how much it's gonna be, or this is how it's not gonna be.
• 1:04:17
  Vipul Bindra: There's another company that was able to research, you know, and that's what you need as a as a as somebody in the industry, and that's why I'm saying it's so important to have the network where you know I know a lot about it, but I know everything.
• 1:04:27
  Vipul Bindra: And like you said, you guys went to Inco Infocom, he knew the latest products and and stuff like that.
• 1:04:32
  Vipul Bindra: And he was like, Yeah, this is right.
• 1:04:34
  Vipul Bindra: And then I was like, Okay, thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
• 1:04:36
  Vipul Bindra: And you know, I was able to go.
• 1:04:38
  Vipul Bindra: Same thing when he wanted the FX6, he had called me, he was like, Send me a photo of your rig.
• 1:04:42
  Vipul Bindra: He wanted to see how to rig it up or whatever, or what his options were, and that's what I'm saying.
• 1:04:47
  Vipul Bindra: It's a collaborative industry, you work together and you succeed together.
• 1:04:50
  Vipul Bindra: Uh now talk about uh pricing strategies.
• 1:04:54
  Vipul Bindra: How are you?
• 1:04:55
  Vipul Bindra: I know you do photography, you do videography, you're doing some podcast stuff, you're doing live stuff.
• 1:05:00
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, there's a lot you guys do.
• 1:05:02
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, uh, let's go with photography, because that's mostly what I've seen you do.
• 1:05:06
  Vipul Bindra: At least when I'm approaching, you're like, I got a photo session.
• 1:05:08
  Vipul Bindra: So, how do you normally price?
• 1:05:10
  Vipul Bindra: What could somebody let's say somebody's interested in it?
• 1:05:12
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, you know, and I know it's skill-based, there's a lot of ranges, but what can somebody realistically expect to charge?
• 1:05:20
  Vipul Bindra: I don't know, if they're if they want to do photography.
• 1:05:23
  Lamar Shealey: First off, let me be let me be real.
• 1:05:25
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah so I am into the professional side of it, I am really starting to get into that side of it and pricing it.
• 1:05:33
  Lamar Shealey: Because um, one thing about doing it for church where you're learning, you don't always you don't charge all the time.
• 1:05:40
  Lamar Shealey: You know, sometimes they'll bless you, give you some money and things of that nature, but you don't always charge.
• 1:05:44
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm working on growing that and learning, you know, my worth.
• 1:05:48
  Lamar Shealey: It's hard to it's hard to learn your worth when you're used to it just doing it because it's fun.
• 1:05:52
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Lamar Shealey: So I would say if you're starting out, of course you're gonna do a lot of free stuff.
• 1:05:59
  Lamar Shealey: Do a lot of free stuff.
• 1:06:01
  Lamar Shealey: I suggest if you have kids, do your kids.
• 1:06:03
  Lamar Shealey: If you have a wife or fiance or brothers and sisters, parents, do them first.
• 1:06:09
  Lamar Shealey: That's the best thing to start with.
• 1:06:11
  Lamar Shealey: I am trying to get into the you know I guess you would say the five, six hundred dollar range.
• 1:06:20
  Vipul Bindra: That's like sort of like a session you're saying.
• 1:06:22
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, that's what I'm trying to work towards that, but it's finding a clientele because it's hard to and I was just talking to somebody, I was talking to my wife about this actually.
• 1:06:31
  Lamar Shealey: Um, how do you get the mindset of people to get you out of the oh you said how much?
• 1:06:39
  Lamar Shealey: I was expecting like a hundred dollars.
• 1:06:41
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, do you know that my rig is like seven grand?
• 1:06:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and then you have to edit the photo.
• 1:06:46
  Vipul Bindra: You have to edit it?
• 1:06:52
  Lamar Shealey: And of course, getting out of what you think is a good deal.
• 1:06:57
  Lamar Shealey: Because it's like I do this.
• 1:06:58
  Lamar Shealey: So for me, it's like I needed a picture, I just set it on a tripod and take the picture, you know?
• 1:07:03
  Lamar Shealey: But for them, it's like, oh no, you need the expertise, you need the posing, you need to have somebody that knows how to a little bit about makeup.
• 1:07:10
  Lamar Shealey: You know, like the camera.
• 1:07:12
  Lamar Shealey: What's the undertone of the person to be able to light them correctly and make sure that when you go and post, it's not as much work.
• 1:07:19
  Lamar Shealey: Hey, I need to be able to give you the stuff turnaround to the same day, yeah, or I need to do high-end type things.
• 1:07:26
  Lamar Shealey: So, I mean, I would guess if somebody's just doing a regular photo shoot, um, I would guess the two to four hundred dollar range would probably be your start.
• 1:07:36
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  Lamar Shealey: Starting, um, and they could just go up from there depending on what you need.
• 1:07:40
  Lamar Shealey: I want to.
• 1:07:41
  Vipul Bindra: These are personal photos, so you're helping, you know, a family or a couple or a individual.
• 1:07:45
  Vipul Bindra: There's obviously more money, right?
• 1:07:48
  Vipul Bindra: When you start to do company stuff.
• 1:07:49
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 1:07:49
  Vipul Bindra: So if if obviously, and it also depends, I guess, on people's personality.
• 1:07:53
  Vipul Bindra: If they just want to do it for individuals, then that's fine.
• 1:07:56
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, this is a good rate too.
• 1:07:58
  Vipul Bindra: But if you really want to just make money, companies where you're at, doing corporate divisions, exactly corporate photography, headshots, right?
• 1:08:06
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and that's where it's kind of hard of pricing, is saying, hey, I want to be able to do these family shoes.
• 1:08:11
  Lamar Shealey: I like doing it.
• 1:08:12
  Lamar Shealey: I really do like doing it.
• 1:08:13
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Lamar Shealey: You know, um, but then also, hey, I have a family uh I have you I need you to do a family reunion.
• 1:08:19
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, that's gonna be a lot different pricing structure than hey, me and my husband want to do a photo shoot for uh for an hour for our anniversary, versus I need to make a whole set, I need to drive 45 minutes, I gotta bring all these lights, I'm not gonna know what's going on.
• 1:08:35
  Lamar Shealey: I gotta do, oh, there's like eight different families in this big family.
• 1:08:40
  Lamar Shealey: I need to do some of those, pose them here, pose them there, and by the time you leave three hours later, you are totally exhausted.
• 1:08:49
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and that would be a lot more money, right?
• 1:08:50
  Vipul Bindra: A lot more money.
• 1:08:51
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, you know, like you said, there's eight families.
• 1:08:54
  Vipul Bindra: You're driving, you're also going on location with some of them coming to your studio.
• 1:08:58
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 1:08:58
  Vipul Bindra: So what would something like that be?
• 1:08:59
  Vipul Bindra: What a couple thousand, maybe more?
• 1:09:02
  Lamar Shealey: That would be nice.
• 1:09:03
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Lamar Shealey: But probably in um starting in a thousand range.
• 1:09:05
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 1:09:06
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, for something for a big family.
• 1:09:07
  Lamar Shealey: Yes.
• 1:09:08
  Vipul Bindra: Um really not bad.
• 1:09:09
  Vipul Bindra: You going there for three hours, you know, like you said.
• 1:09:11
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  Vipul Bindra: Getting some photos done and giving that.
• 1:09:15
  Lamar Shealey: You know, first 30, 30-ish minutes, you're just like kind of talking, getting people where that, finding out who's who.
• 1:09:20
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:09:20
  Lamar Shealey: Okay, this is this is grandma.
• 1:09:22
  Lamar Shealey: So make sure to get her and do that.
• 1:09:24
  Lamar Shealey: And when you have little kids, one thing that I always do whenever I do family photo shoots and I do little kids is if they come in ready, I'm starting with them.
• 1:09:33
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, because they're not gonna look like they're not even just look like once they are tired, yeah, they're done.
• 1:09:39
  Lamar Shealey: You're not gonna get any great photos when the kid is tired.
• 1:09:43
  Lamar Shealey: You can't cheer them up, they're hungry, whatever the case may be, if their toddlers are are below.
• 1:09:48
  Lamar Shealey: And especially if you're outside.
• 1:09:50
  Lamar Shealey: Oh, that's it.
• 1:09:51
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, Florida, man.
• 1:09:52
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, so you get that out of the way first.
• 1:09:55
  Lamar Shealey: And then um, then you start getting to the older ones.
• 1:09:58
  Lamar Shealey: Like, all right, y'all gotta stay and and then teenagers, you gotta cheer them up.
• 1:10:03
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, well that'd be a hard job.
• 1:10:05
  Lamar Shealey: Oh, it's like that's who I like dealing with when I when teaching, I like the middle high school kids.
• 1:10:09
  Lamar Shealey: They are becoming different nowadays, though.
• 1:10:12
  Lamar Shealey: They are very different.
• 1:10:13
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, they're they're growing up with uh what do you call the scroll lifestyle, right?
• 1:10:17
  Vipul Bindra: Just being on the phone, yeah, their attitudes a little bit differently.
• 1:10:20
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, I'm not I I guess I'm getting into the older range.
• 1:10:23
  Lamar Shealey: I'm 39, about to be 40 this year, and they're just different.
• 1:10:27
  Lamar Shealey: They are from four years ago, they're different.
• 1:10:30
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, who are you?
• 1:10:32
  Lamar Shealey: Wow.
• 1:10:33
  Vipul Bindra: What would you what uh so describe like what do you mean by that?
• 1:10:36
  Vipul Bindra: Like in what way?
• 1:10:38
  Vipul Bindra: Um is it just because they're growing up in this environment, you know?
• 1:10:42
  Lamar Shealey: Their attitudes are different and how they respond to people.
• 1:10:45
  Lamar Shealey: They're it's different.
• 1:10:47
  Lamar Shealey: And even when I I was when I went to high school, you know, we were a certain way.
• 1:10:52
  Lamar Shealey: Two years later I was substitute teaching.
• 1:10:54
  Lamar Shealey: And I couldn't recognize how they were acting two years out of high school.
• 1:11:02
  Lamar Shealey: Not because I was different, of course I was different.
• 1:11:05
  Lamar Shealey: I'm an adult now and I'm changing things, but and and of course, you know, vernacular's gonna change, things that they say is gonna change, but the way they acted towards adults changed in two years.
• 1:11:17
  Lamar Shealey: It's crazy, and even nowadays is different, you know, and depending on areas that you're in, uh the two-parent household, one-parent household, is the grandparents raising them.
• 1:11:28
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I mean, I could tell you some stories that I probably wouldn't say on camera from what I've experienced in that, and you'd be like, Really?
• 1:11:38
  Lamar Shealey: That happened, the mother and the grandma can't be able to do that.
• 1:11:40
  Lamar Shealey: What is it can get crazy, and then you have some kids that are just diamonds in the rough.
• 1:11:45
  Lamar Shealey: All you need to do is give them a little bit of encouragement, and they excel.
• 1:11:50
  Lamar Shealey: They go from almost failing out to almost straight A students, and all they just needed was a little bit of encouragement.
• 1:11:58
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, but then it's those are getting further and fewer in between now.
• 1:12:03
  Lamar Shealey: It's crazy.
• 1:12:06
  Lamar Shealey: And I say, you know, you're the lovely family, you gotta keep those kids close and just make sure that you're monitoring them.
• 1:12:13
  Lamar Shealey: And hey, you know what?
• 1:12:14
  Lamar Shealey: So you get a certain age, I choose your friends.
• 1:12:19
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, no, I totally get it.
• 1:12:20
  Vipul Bindra: And I don't know how much you know we'll be able to, we'll try because you're absolutely right.
• 1:12:24
  Vipul Bindra: You know, as a as a dad, I'm starting to realize that to be honest, I felt like I had full freedom as a kid.
• 1:12:30
  Vipul Bindra: And maybe I I'm looking at it more, you know, not pleasantly, because you know, I only have the happy memories or whatever, but I don't remember my parents restricting me much.
• 1:12:39
  Vipul Bindra: And I was one of those kids that I was just like, you know, like I said, I was just like happy watching Pokemon and crap, you know, as a kid.
• 1:12:47
  Vipul Bindra: So it's like, oh, let me play some on my PSP, play Pokemon, go out and maybe play with my friends, some soccer or whatever.
• 1:12:53
  Vipul Bindra: You know what I mean?
• 1:12:53
  Vipul Bindra: Like that was my growing up, so I was never into any of the crazy stuff now kids are into.
• 1:12:58
  Vipul Bindra: I think and yeah, I hear stories and I'm like, whoa, what are they doing?
• 1:13:02
  Vipul Bindra: Well, I think but to be honest, if I had a device in my pocket with the internet, who knows what I'd be able to do.
• 1:13:10
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, there is that part of it too, but I think it's also just the way some people are raised, some kids are being raised.
• 1:13:16
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and the thing is where you're at most of the time is what rubs off on you.
• 1:13:20
  Lamar Shealey: Because you know, my daughter's five, and you know, and she doesn't say anything bad.
• 1:13:25
  Lamar Shealey: So it's not even bad, it's just she'll talk certain ways and use certain words that we don't use, not necessarily bad, just incorrect English.
• 1:13:33
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:13:34
  Lamar Shealey: We don't talk like that, but she's at school.
• 1:13:36
  Lamar Shealey: So she picks it up from the other kids.
• 1:13:38
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  Lamar Shealey: And when they're little, they pick up that type of stuff.
• 1:13:40
  Lamar Shealey: When they get older, they pick up other things.
• 1:13:43
  Lamar Shealey: Because, you know, I monitor my son on the internet.
• 1:13:46
  Lamar Shealey: Excuse me.
• 1:13:48
  Lamar Shealey: And I monitor him, so I kind of know what he's doing and kind of do that.
• 1:13:53
  Lamar Shealey: And the kids that we hung out with, my our parents knew each other.
• 1:13:56
  Lamar Shealey: Sometimes it's like the the parents are crazy.
• 1:14:02
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:14:02
  Lamar Shealey: That's the problem.
• 1:14:03
  Lamar Shealey: And it's not even the kids, it's sometimes it's just like and then being in, and it kind of jade you a little bit being a teacher.
• 1:14:10
  Lamar Shealey: Um, even though I wasn't at a big school, we're a very small private school, and just seeing that there's parents I didn't meet, I had their kids for three, four years, never met the parent until they had a perceived problem.
• 1:14:21
  Lamar Shealey: Wow.
• 1:14:22
  Lamar Shealey: And then some of them parents I knew them the whole entire time.
• 1:14:25
  Lamar Shealey: And you know, it's just how it is.
• 1:14:27
  Lamar Shealey: So that's also why I like dealing with the older kids.
• 1:14:29
  Lamar Shealey: I could just talk to them real.
• 1:14:31
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:14:31
  Lamar Shealey: Versus trying to like, oh, you know, it's good.
• 1:14:33
  Lamar Shealey: No, we're gonna talk.
• 1:14:34
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:14:34
  Lamar Shealey: You know, do you want to be in this situation when you get older?
• 1:14:37
  Lamar Shealey: No.
• 1:14:38
  Lamar Shealey: You gotta change it.
• 1:14:40
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 1:14:41
  Vipul Bindra: Wow.
• 1:14:42
  Vipul Bindra: That's good to know.
• 1:14:42
  Vipul Bindra: You know, you have a different perspective in life than I do.
• 1:14:45
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:14:45
  Vipul Bindra: Because you know, obviously, I I I have my own perspective, but I help with like companies, you know, that want to make money, and so they want to just get it done, usually.
• 1:14:54
  Vipul Bindra: Because it's in their interest, they're paying me a lot of money to come help them.
• 1:14:57
  Vipul Bindra: It's very different for kids, you know.
• 1:14:59
  Vipul Bindra: Like you said, you have you are the you know, you could change their life.
• 1:15:03
  Vipul Bindra: It's so crazy as a teacher.
• 1:15:04
  Vipul Bindra: Because, you know, um, especially if if they are, like you said, where they have they with a little bit of motivation, they could go on the right path, especially those ones, you know, where you can actually make an immediate effort.
• 1:15:16
  Vipul Bindra: Um, because you know, it's it's the environment they're growing in, like I said.
• 1:15:21
  Vipul Bindra: Um thank goodness I didn't have a cell phone with an internet, is all I'm gonna say.
• 1:15:26
  Vipul Bindra: Because you know, now I'm an adult, you know, I have my other interests, but as a kid, you know, you can only think of the worst stuff.
• 1:15:31
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:15:32
  Vipul Bindra: So and then, like you said, if you're in an environment where other kids are doing it, even if it's not you that you know, they're gonna lean you towards all those things.
• 1:15:40
  Vipul Bindra: So yeah, so it's just an environment that you're in.
• 1:15:44
  Vipul Bindra: Um, but uh no, awesome.
• 1:15:47
  Vipul Bindra: And then uh what is your favorite thing?
• 1:15:49
  Vipul Bindra: Because we've talked about so many things that you do.
• 1:15:51
  Vipul Bindra: Like, what is it, like if you could choose one lane, what is it that you really want to do out of all this?
• 1:15:56
  Vipul Bindra: Or you could be doing more, you know.
• 1:15:58
  Lamar Shealey: As of right now, I'm still because I'm still growing in videography more.
• 1:16:03
  Lamar Shealey: Um, and I'm really liking that.
• 1:16:06
  Lamar Shealey: Um, so I can't really say I want to do one thing as of right now.
• 1:16:12
  Lamar Shealey: I'm still growing into kind of figuring out.
• 1:16:14
  Lamar Shealey: Um, of course, I think I'm still gonna do certain things on the side.
• 1:16:17
  Lamar Shealey: You know, hey, I'm I'm probably gonna do some family photography, especially working, um, going to church.
• 1:16:23
  Lamar Shealey: You have a lot of people that's people are always gonna approach you about that.
• 1:16:25
  Lamar Shealey: It's gonna be graduation time.
• 1:16:27
  Lamar Shealey: Graduation pictures and loving catch, like catching, catching that moment.
• 1:16:31
  Lamar Shealey: And now it's like when I see that kid that I'd never spoke to before, because they're you know, they're doing their thing.
• 1:16:37
  Lamar Shealey: Now it's like we have a connection, like, yeah, you you went here, and one girl she graduated, she made her prom dress, and I did her prom pictures.
• 1:16:44
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, I didn't know she made her prom dress.
• 1:16:46
  Lamar Shealey: I barely even knew how many kids you had.
• 1:16:48
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and you know, you get a chance to like get that connection with people.
• 1:16:52
  Lamar Shealey: Um, but I think I'll always do that.
• 1:16:55
  Lamar Shealey: I don't think that's gonna be my main focus.
• 1:16:57
  Lamar Shealey: I kind of want to work with small to medium-sized businesses and kind of help see that grow.
• 1:17:02
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, not just see people grow, but see like their dream grow and capturing that.
• 1:17:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that's pretty good, you know, motivation to have.
• 1:17:10
  Vipul Bindra: And like I said, you're yourself doing great with a partner like Quentin.
• 1:17:14
  Vipul Bindra: I think that's incredible.
• 1:17:16
  Vipul Bindra: And uh, I think you're only going to you know find success.
• 1:17:19
  Vipul Bindra: Plus, this cool studio that you're building, it seems very versatile to me.
• 1:17:23
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, whether you want to do podcasts, you want to do um like green screen shooting now, apparently, with Ultimate or photography, you know.
• 1:17:30
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I think it's a nice place that you guys have built together.
• 1:17:34
  Vipul Bindra: It has a lot of business potential.
• 1:17:35
  Vipul Bindra: You know, you guys gotta take my advice.
• 1:17:37
  Vipul Bindra: I told Quentin he's gotta do a networking event there.
• 1:17:40
  Vipul Bindra: That's the best way to like show people what you guys have been working on all these months.
• 1:17:44
  Lamar Shealey: And yeah, that's uh is and start starting right now.
• 1:17:49
  Lamar Shealey: Um, right now I'm getting all kind of just random photo shoots, which makes it hard to like have a clean open room because it's like, all right, I gotta do one today, and then not next week I have a day.
• 1:18:00
  Lamar Shealey: And yeah, it just has to, I think once we get back, we're going to lock in on that and make sure that we get that done.
• 1:18:06
  Lamar Shealey: It's just trying to, you know, when you try to in your mind, being uh, and I had to learn about this, you can't always be a perfectionist in everything.
• 1:18:15
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:18:15
  Lamar Shealey: Because you'll never get something done.
• 1:18:17
  Lamar Shealey: You have to get it, you have to have a standard, and it can't be perfect.
• 1:18:21
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you want to have a high standard, but you don't want to have a perfect standard because perfect standard does not exist.
• 1:18:27
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:18:27
  Vipul Bindra: So you don't want to be stuck essentially um uh you know reaching that perfection that you never reach, and then hence you never get anything done, right?
• 1:18:36
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, so I think that's what kind of help held us back from doing the meeting meetup.
• 1:18:40
  Lamar Shealey: So I think we're kind of in a place where it's like, all right, it has to be good enough.
• 1:18:44
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:18:44
  Lamar Shealey: And that comes sometimes that comes with age, because I was that person that would fixate on something for hours and hours and hours and hours.
• 1:18:52
  Lamar Shealey: And I had to learn.
• 1:18:53
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  Lamar Shealey: Well, you gotta, you know, and having kids also help with that because you know, you can't just be locked in a little room for for days at a time thinking about, oh, how does this connect to that, connect to this?
• 1:19:04
  Lamar Shealey: So now, so I you know, and he's younger, yeah, you know, I have about 10 years on him.
• 1:19:09
  Lamar Shealey: So I think that's some things that I'm like, hey.
• 1:19:11
  Vipul Bindra: So you're gonna lock him in the room and let him figure out where the connection goes there.
• 1:19:15
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, to be honest, he's the guy to figure that out.
• 1:19:18
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, yes.
• 1:19:19
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, I mean, but to be honest, you're already using the studio, right?
• 1:19:22
  Vipul Bindra: I know it's not like you haven't obviously announced it like um uh whatever, like officially like done a meetup or whatever.
• 1:19:29
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, but I'm saying it's not like you're not using the studio.
• 1:19:31
  Vipul Bindra: It's technically already, like I said, I came that day, you already had a session going on there, right?
• 1:19:36
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah, because he was busy, he wasn't even answering my phones.
• 1:19:39
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, wow, he's busy, all right.
• 1:19:41
  Vipul Bindra: So I had to drop his camera to you.
• 1:19:42
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, he had some other stuff going on that day.
• 1:19:44
  Vipul Bindra: So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:46
  Vipul Bindra: You guys are already doing your thing, you're using and you were using the space, so yes, seems to be already like like said being used, right?
• 1:19:53
  Lamar Shealey: Yes, we have um we're getting a lot of positive feedback on it.
• 1:19:56
  Lamar Shealey: So, you know, we're trying to get people to give us negative feedback and say what can we fix?
• 1:20:00
  Lamar Shealey: But sometimes it's hard to get that um because people are just like in awe.
• 1:20:03
  Lamar Shealey: But you know, once things kind of die down, probably the next time you come back, like, oh yeah, this thing is what I was I did forgot about that.
• 1:20:09
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, fix that right there.
• 1:20:10
  Lamar Shealey: Exactly.
• 1:20:11
  Lamar Shealey: But um, and you know, of course, getting respected opinions is always great to get, but now it's just it's time to once we get back, I think we're gonna be um working on some stuff while I'm in Africa, while we're in Africa.
• 1:20:23
  Lamar Shealey: So when we come back, it's like building up that with everybody else.
• 1:20:27
  Lamar Shealey: Because you know, dealing with professionals, you know, I think most of the people in our group do things outside, they go on location.
• 1:20:36
  Lamar Shealey: So now it's just now it's time to find those people that want to do things and don't have a place to do it.
• 1:20:40
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Vipul Bindra: You know, that they want to come into the studio because you're right.
• 1:20:43
  Vipul Bindra: Most of my clients, I'm going to them or going to some location.
• 1:20:47
  Vipul Bindra: But then you will get a client, at least for me, rare occasion, who's like, I don't have an office, I just work remote.
• 1:20:52
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:20:52
  Vipul Bindra: And that's where a studio can be awesome, too, you know, be like, okay, that's fine.
• 1:20:56
  Vipul Bindra: We have a place where we can make it look like you have an office, right?
• 1:20:59
  Vipul Bindra: Or something like that.
• 1:21:00
  Vipul Bindra: Um, so the it studio has its place, I don't uh especially like you said, doing photography or whatever.
• 1:21:05
  Vipul Bindra: A lot of people may not want, you know, my home's unorganized or whatever.
• 1:21:09
  Vipul Bindra: I want to do some family pictures, let us come to your studio or whatever.
• 1:21:12
  Vipul Bindra: So there's stuff like that, you know, where I feel like a studio has its place, plus making it versatile, where, like you said, you have multiple ways you can use it.
• 1:21:20
  Vipul Bindra: It doesn't have to be just one thing.
• 1:21:21
  Vipul Bindra: It's like, hey, here's a green screen option, here's a uh, you know, podcast option or whatever.
• 1:21:27
  Vipul Bindra: It's a neat idea.
• 1:21:27
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, I'm really happy for you guys.
• 1:21:29
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, I can't wait for it to grow, but also that's a really cool opportunity.
• 1:21:33
  Vipul Bindra: I'm so happy for Quentin.
• 1:21:34
  Vipul Bindra: He always gets to every year go to these awesome countries and get to film, and he gets to get paid for it.
• 1:21:39
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, that's really cool too.
• 1:21:41
  Lamar Shealey: Man, getting getting to go to Africa for the first time and getting paid for it is yeah, it feels great.
• 1:21:46
  Lamar Shealey: And do something I love.
• 1:21:48
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 1:21:48
  Vipul Bindra: I'm telling you, people, if you're interested in doing video production and uh, you know, uh you want to travel, or or rather get paid to travel and make awesome content, get involved with your house of worship or wherever you go, get involved in the video part of it, you know, put in the hours, get volunteer.
• 1:22:05
  Vipul Bindra: Not only are you helping increase your skill, you're getting better at it.
• 1:22:08
  Vipul Bindra: I think the other indirect advantage of it is you on these mission trips or wherever you go, uh you have the opportunity to now tag along, get paid, you know, create awesome content and travel for free.
• 1:22:21
  Vipul Bindra: There's multiple benefits of doing that, right?
• 1:22:23
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:22:24
  Lamar Shealey: And um another thing that we're doing at the studio, we're trying to, we're well, we're in talks with a community center of actually building out a program to actually help the youth get into this.
• 1:22:34
  Lamar Shealey: Look at that build.
• 1:22:35
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so you're gonna train the next generation.
• 1:22:37
  Lamar Shealey: That's what we're working on because and um one of our other good friends, Troy, talked about him earlier.
• 1:22:41
  Lamar Shealey: That's something that he wants to do as well.
• 1:22:42
  Lamar Shealey: He wants to start an organization teaching kids how to do live production because that is mainly what he does.
• 1:22:48
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  Lamar Shealey: And just opening up the world because this is not going away.
• 1:22:54
  Lamar Shealey: It's not going away.
• 1:22:56
  Vipul Bindra: Yo, video is central to what human life now, essentially.
• 1:23:00
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and plus stuff like live, you know, and and video production in general and even sound.
• 1:23:06
  Vipul Bindra: There's so much to this that is so inherently important to learn.
• 1:23:10
  Vipul Bindra: And especially if, like you say again, go back to that, if they have the spark, the the interest, yes, uh, that could be a good place to go to bring that in.
• 1:23:17
  Vipul Bindra: And with your education background, you guys may be the perfect people to to do it.
• 1:23:22
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and that's another good reason to have a studio because we can't go and set up, oh, we're gonna have this for three hours a week.
• 1:23:27
  Lamar Shealey: We're gonna spend two hours setting up at this community center to and then three hours breaking down because we're tired after dealing with teenagers.
• 1:23:34
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:23:35
  Lamar Shealey: You don't want to listen.
• 1:23:36
  Lamar Shealey: That's another part of it.
• 1:23:37
  Lamar Shealey: So we want to, you know, work and give back and um train up the next generation to be able to do what we gotta do.
• 1:23:43
  Lamar Shealey: And um, yeah, once we got and get it started, we're gonna probably hopefully bring in people like you to talk to them and different people.
• 1:23:50
  Lamar Shealey: I have a good friend that does sound, has a um sound company, bring them in, and you know, this industry is very is very vast in what you can do.
• 1:23:59
  Lamar Shealey: Um you can literally some people spend their whole their whole career just on their phone doing it.
• 1:24:06
  Lamar Shealey: Some people do it on the other end where they have, you know, a lot of equipment.
• 1:24:11
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Lamar Shealey: A lot of equipment.
• 1:24:13
  Lamar Shealey: I wasn't gonna say a number, but I didn't I said no, we're this is gonna be public, so we're not, you know, he he his equipment is very it's quality, yeah, but it's not very expensive.
• 1:24:25
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, we need to have uh, you know, people stop mentioning.
• 1:24:28
  Vipul Bindra: I feel like uh every person who comes here has mentioned at least each episode a little bit of the equipment.
• 1:24:33
  Vipul Bindra: Remember, I make a living doing this.
• 1:24:35
  Vipul Bindra: This isn't not to you, I'm just saying somebody listening will think, what is but this guy in equipment?
• 1:24:39
  Vipul Bindra: No, I'm actually a video professional and I make money doing videos.
• 1:24:43
  Vipul Bindra: This is just a fun thing, aside passion project.
• 1:24:46
  Vipul Bindra: So all this gear is actually used for work and making money, but yeah, and it took 15 years to acquire everything.
• 1:24:53
  Vipul Bindra: But yes, I do have a lot of equipment.
• 1:24:55
  Vipul Bindra: I haven't measured it, but it has to be like I said, years ago I did 2021, it was over half a million, so I'm sure in the last few years, some has been, you know, removed, but a lot has been added, so it's probably a lot more than that now.
• 1:25:07
  Lamar Shealey: And even be sitting here with you know, and and that sounds, of course, even saying those numbers to some people sounds like, man, I could never get up to that.
• 1:25:16
  Vipul Bindra: But remember, if you can, if you but it depends on if you even want to.
• 1:25:19
  Vipul Bindra: So that's been the point of this podcast.
• 1:25:21
  Vipul Bindra: I've brought people who are running a production company like that where those numbers are realistic, but then also DPs where like, hey, you can actually be a camera operator, and then that makes that's an unnecessary because you don't need any of this.
• 1:25:34
  Vipul Bindra: Kind of like, you know, you bring Quentin here, then he'll talk about all the equipment has, and then it's like, you're I can't get into it.
• 1:25:41
  Vipul Bindra: But then there's people, um, you know, like Alex recently was like, I'm doing he did an A V job and he made eight grand and he had to bring nothing, you know, and they were he was slow in to the event.
• 1:25:51
  Vipul Bindra: He did his thing.
• 1:25:51
  Vipul Bindra: Obviously, he's technically knowledgeable, but yeah, but I'm saying is in this industry there's so many avenues.
• 1:25:56
  Vipul Bindra: But anyway, with me, I've been trying to build a production company.
• 1:26:00
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, and I want it to be full.
• 1:26:01
  Vipul Bindra: And when a lot of people say we're a full, you know, production company, I want it to be legit.
• 1:26:06
  Vipul Bindra: So we have to have lighting, camera, sound, grip, electric, you know, everything.
• 1:26:10
  Vipul Bindra: And then when you start to slowly acquire that, eventually you end up with this and a van full of crap outside.
• 1:26:16
  Lamar Shealey: Because even even at my stage, you know, I I've been I'm just starting to get into the wanting to do it more professional.
• 1:26:23
  Lamar Shealey: And I have like probably $20,000 worth of equipment.
• 1:26:26
  Lamar Shealey: And I'm like, how?
• 1:26:28
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:26:29
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, slowly, right?
• 1:26:30
  Vipul Bindra: It's slowly.
• 1:26:31
  Vipul Bindra: You know, you don't think about it.
• 1:26:32
  Vipul Bindra: You could have camera here, lens here.
• 1:26:34
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, you and then it's like, okay, and then you know, the great thing is when you know people, you get deals sometimes.
• 1:26:39
  Lamar Shealey: So, you know, I'm I'm quoting it at market rate, not what we actually paid for it.
• 1:26:43
  Lamar Shealey: But you know, you start.
• 1:26:45
  Vipul Bindra: But apparently tariffs will increase the value too, also value goes up that much.
• 1:26:49
  Lamar Shealey: So it's like once you start adding that up, it's like, oh, I okay, yeah, I bought this $500 light, I bought this $2,000 camera, I bought a $1,500 lens, I bought a this, that, and that, you know, it adds up.
• 1:27:01
  Lamar Shealey: So even at my scale where I'm just like literally like I could probably fit most of my stuff in a large vehicle, it's still worth more than the vehicle.
• 1:27:11
  Lamar Shealey: And it's like, how did that happen?
• 1:27:13
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and that's the nature of what we do, right?
• 1:27:15
  Vipul Bindra: I think anyone, I'm like, equipments are important, but slowly as you do this more and more and more, you end up with tools that you need.
• 1:27:21
  Vipul Bindra: And yeah, it ends up costing more than the vehicle you're carrying it in.
• 1:27:25
  Lamar Shealey: And I I'll say this too, just for anybody that's watching out there, everybody feels like selling all their stuff sometimes and quitting.
• 1:27:32
  Lamar Shealey: Trust me.
• 1:27:33
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, it's normal to have those feelings.
• 1:27:35
  Vipul Bindra: But it's important not to quit.
• 1:27:37
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, don't quit.
• 1:27:38
  Lamar Shealey: Keep going, keep going, keep going.
• 1:27:40
  Lamar Shealey: But trust me, you know, especially at the stage that I'm at, you're like, I'm sitting here, you know, this I have the summer off from school.
• 1:27:49
  Lamar Shealey: I'm trying to come back, but at a lesser capacity.
• 1:27:53
  Lamar Shealey: How am I gonna do this?
• 1:27:55
  Lamar Shealey: I got this amount.
• 1:27:56
  Lamar Shealey: I'm like, man, I could just sell all this equipment and pay off my car.
• 1:27:59
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:28:00
  Lamar Shealey: You know, it's like, you know, you could sell off all your equipment and pay off your house and you know have no debt and like all right, get a corporate job.
• 1:28:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, done.
• 1:28:09
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, life is settled.
• 1:28:10
  Vipul Bindra: And I think that's what what it is, you know, like you say, you see you've said well said there, because there's so many days, you know, where you know, things are not going right.
• 1:28:19
  Vipul Bindra: You know, I can sit here and talk about yeah, how we closed that awesome deal and how we built made that awesome video, but then there are days uh where you know you send a proposal out, it gets rejected, and you do a call and it gets rejected, and you know, you I don't know, uh a couple emails come in that don't work the way you want to.
• 1:28:36
  Vipul Bindra: I'm saying there is one of those days, or you have a pile of some tasks that you need to do that you don't want to do that are not the fun type with playing with a camera.
• 1:28:44
  Vipul Bindra: And those are the days where you go, why am I doing this?
• 1:28:46
  Vipul Bindra: Right, where you start to question everything.
• 1:28:48
  Vipul Bindra: I think those are the most important days, even more than all the fun days, where you have to remember the fun days and go, that's why I do this.
• 1:28:56
  Vipul Bindra: Because those days will come.
• 1:28:57
  Vipul Bindra: It may not be today, I just need to get past it and and not quit, and like you said, sell off all the equipment, you know.
• 1:29:04
  Lamar Shealey: So even with you know, I've been with my wife um almost 20 years.
• 1:29:10
  Lamar Shealey: We've been married for 15, together for 20.
• 1:29:13
  Lamar Shealey: So that's a long time.
• 1:29:15
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, this will be the first time that we've been apart this long ever.
• 1:29:20
  Lamar Shealey: Wow.
• 1:29:21
  Lamar Shealey: So even in the back of my mind, I'm still thinking, man, this is going to be a really weird experience.
• 1:29:28
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, because you're gonna be away from your family, your kids, your wife, yeah, everybody.
• 1:29:32
  Lamar Shealey: Yep, and not knowing how well the communication is gonna be, because you know, we might be able to con talk every day, or we might not.
• 1:29:38
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, depending on where I'm at.
• 1:29:40
  Lamar Shealey: I think we probably will, looking at where we're gonna be.
• 1:29:42
  Lamar Shealey: But it's still like, you know, I'm not thinking our relationship's gonna go awry or anything, but it's like, you know, you talk to somebody every day of your life for for 20 years straight.
• 1:29:53
  Lamar Shealey: You, you know, you you're well, it depends.
• 1:29:56
  Vipul Bindra: How does she feel about you leaving?
• 1:29:57
  Lamar Shealey: That though she's you know, you know, she's she's like very excited.
• 1:30:00
  Vipul Bindra: She's like, go, she's like, no, you're not.
• 1:30:03
  Lamar Shealey: Well, she's excited for me because of the experience that I'm gonna have, but also I know she's like, man, I'm gonna have these kids all day, 24-7, have to take him to practice, still have to work, yeah, and you know, deal with her daughter, you know, even you know, my schedule's still kind of crazy now, but it's like, hey, okay, at least a day of the week I'm not working generally speaking.
• 1:30:24
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I have a day off, or I'll be able to take the kids, or just hey, get away from your mom, come let's have ice cream or something.
• 1:30:30
  Lamar Shealey: I don't know, whatever, or cook a meal or something.
• 1:30:32
  Lamar Shealey: Now it's gonna be her.
• 1:30:34
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, two and a half weeks at least, right?
• 1:30:36
  Lamar Shealey: Yes.
• 1:30:37
  Lamar Shealey: And I mean, we've had it where I've gone away for about a week-ish, about a week, or when when they went to Tennessee, my wife took my son to Tennessee, so it was just her and him, but he was at the camp, so she was by herself.
• 1:30:50
  Lamar Shealey: So there is that, but it's like 17 days not seeing them for the first time.
• 1:30:56
  Lamar Shealey: It's a very exciting experience, but it's also like, man, what am I gonna do?
• 1:31:01
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you'll you'll figure out.
• 1:31:04
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, you'll know immediately how you feel as you get on that plane.
• 1:31:08
  Vipul Bindra: But I mean, what you are going on is incredible in nature, too.
• 1:31:11
  Vipul Bindra: You know, it's kind of like the pros and cons of everything.
• 1:31:14
  Vipul Bindra: So, and like I say, you're going with somebody, you know, nice who's been there already.
• 1:31:18
  Vipul Bindra: Quentin will make you try all the pizzas in Africa.
• 1:31:21
  Vipul Bindra: It's so funny that guy all of it in Africa only to eat pizza.
• 1:31:27
  Lamar Shealey: So I I understand.
• 1:31:28
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, I understand what he's saying.
• 1:31:30
  Lamar Shealey: You know, we've had talks about it, and it's like you're going there to work.
• 1:31:33
  Lamar Shealey: So I so my uncle used to um run McDonald's in the Caribbean, right?
• 1:31:38
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 1:31:38
  Lamar Shealey: So when I was younger, I went to go visit him.
• 1:31:40
  Lamar Shealey: Um, me and my sister, and he stayed in Puerto Rico, and we went to St.
• 1:31:45
  Lamar Shealey: Martin.
• 1:31:46
  Lamar Shealey: I was sick the whole entire time.
• 1:31:48
  Lamar Shealey: There was the McDonald's street, other stuff, beach.
• 1:31:53
  Lamar Shealey: Didn't go to the beach one day.
• 1:31:55
  Lamar Shealey: The whole time.
• 1:31:57
  Lamar Shealey: I I I don't know what it was.
• 1:31:59
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:32:00
  Lamar Shealey: So you don't want to go on, you know, that was me wasting my parents' money and his money.
• 1:32:04
  Lamar Shealey: But imagine going somewhere to work and you're sick the whole time.
• 1:32:07
  Lamar Shealey: So it's like, yeah, I kind of want to keep it a little bit safe.
• 1:32:10
  Lamar Shealey: So I understand where it's like, just try pizza.
• 1:32:13
  Lamar Shealey: I might try a dish or two, but I don't want to go over there and just, you know, not to be graphic, but be on the toilet the whole time.
• 1:32:22
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, it can't be that bad.
• 1:32:23
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I get it.
• 1:32:24
  Vipul Bindra: You have to be careful.
• 1:32:25
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, so I'm I want to be a little, I'm gonna be a little bit more adventurous, but you know, I understand this, you know, just not just going crazy.
• 1:32:31
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:32:32
  Vipul Bindra: No, I I totally get it.
• 1:32:33
  Vipul Bindra: You are going there to work, technically, you're not going there, even though it's kind of like a vacation.
• 1:32:37
  Vipul Bindra: But it's still working.
• 1:32:38
  Vipul Bindra: It's gonna be fun.
• 1:32:38
  Vipul Bindra: You know, yeah.
• 1:32:39
  Vipul Bindra: It's gonna be fun.
• 1:32:39
  Vipul Bindra: I'm so excited.
• 1:32:40
  Vipul Bindra: All right, before we go, we're on the tail end of this thing.
• 1:32:42
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, anything you want to talk about?
• 1:32:44
  Vipul Bindra: Uh anything I haven't mentioned?
• 1:32:46
  Vipul Bindra: Any stories?
• 1:32:47
  Lamar Shealey: So I okay, I guess I will ask you this question.
• 1:32:50
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm in a space right now where I'm starting to go into the professional realm of what I'm doing, and sometimes people have, and I'm pretty sure other people are going through this too, how to get out of being what everybody sees you as the cheap person.
• 1:33:07
  Lamar Shealey: Because they're like, oh, you're not professional.
• 1:33:09
  Lamar Shealey: You're doing it, even though they see you doing that, and sometimes, you know, going like going to the game is one of those things that kind of helps validate you.
• 1:33:17
  Lamar Shealey: And honestly, you don't need to be the greatest person to capture certain things.
• 1:33:22
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:33:22
  Lamar Shealey: But hey, I've been with this person, I went to here, I've been to there.
• 1:33:26
  Lamar Shealey: And that kind of tries you try to help have people val that validate you, but how do you get past that point of being the cheap guy?
• 1:33:34
  Lamar Shealey: Not even necessarily cheap, but like the from the professional side.
• 1:33:39
  Lamar Shealey: Okay.
• 1:33:41
  Vipul Bindra: And again, my advice, my opinion.
• 1:33:43
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:33:43
  Vipul Bindra: Try the only way to be cheap, not the cheap guy is to not be the cheap guy.
• 1:33:49
  Vipul Bindra: I know it sounds silly, but like when somebody asks you a price, you should say the price that you want it to be.
• 1:33:54
  Vipul Bindra: The answer will be no, and that's okay.
• 1:33:56
  Vipul Bindra: I hope that makes sense.
• 1:33:58
  Vipul Bindra: It's it's one of those things.
• 1:33:59
  Vipul Bindra: You have an advantage.
• 1:34:01
  Vipul Bindra: Now, a lot of people can't do this.
• 1:34:02
  Vipul Bindra: Let's say you are already making a living as a photographer, videographer, that's your all thing.
• 1:34:07
  Vipul Bindra: So you cannot have hundred percent no's you got bills to pay, and that's how people have a hard time moving.
• 1:34:13
  Vipul Bindra: But if you have a nine to five, you have a school that somebody's paying your bills, it may not obviously you want supplement, you have invested money in the gear, but I'm saying the the truth is you have to just say no.
• 1:34:23
  Vipul Bindra: And now it's different.
• 1:34:24
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, I'm not saying say no to a friend, like if Quincy's like, come help me, that's a different thing.
• 1:34:28
  Vipul Bindra: But I'm saying to your end clients, you should work at the rate you want to, where you think it's fair for you.
• 1:34:35
  Vipul Bindra: As in, like, you should ask around to other photographers, you should ask around to you know whoever you know you think is at what you're doing at the level of work that you're doing, and then you should see what they're charging, and then you should come up with a rate that also you're happy, you're like where you are excited to make their photos, right?
• 1:34:51
  Vipul Bindra: And then you should just charge that.
• 1:34:53
  Vipul Bindra: Simple as that.
• 1:34:53
  Vipul Bindra: The answer will be no and no and no until it's a yes, and then it'll be a yes.
• 1:34:58
  Vipul Bindra: And those people will refer you to more people who can say yes, because uh the way most of the time you get clients, obviously, you can do ads and stuff, that's a different thing.
• 1:35:06
  Vipul Bindra: But I'm saying the family that paid you the price that you wanted them to pay.
• 1:35:10
  Vipul Bindra: Let's say you're like, I charge $500 for a shoot, now I'm gonna charge $1,000, right?
• 1:35:13
  Vipul Bindra: So the family that paid you a thousand most likely knows other families that can pay a thousand, right?
• 1:35:17
  Vipul Bindra: So they'll refer you if they love their photos, right?
• 1:35:19
  Vipul Bindra: You do the because now you're happy, you're gonna do an incredible job.
• 1:35:22
  Vipul Bindra: Maybe throw a couple extra photos in it, do a good thing, and maybe edit them better.
• 1:35:27
  Vipul Bindra: I don't know.
• 1:35:27
  Vipul Bindra: I'm just saying, because if you get paid, the the idea isn't the money, the idea is you wanna do your best.
• 1:35:34
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, and when you do their best, they see it and then they recommend you to someone else, right?
• 1:35:38
  Vipul Bindra: That's the the formula.
• 1:35:39
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so if you do your best, you go above and beyond, like you promised them something, you do more than that, you have a good time because you got paid what you wanted to get paid, they love the photos, now they go tell their you know friends.
• 1:35:51
  Vipul Bindra: I'm saying they'll come back and now they'll ask them how much did you pay?
• 1:35:54
  Vipul Bindra: You pay a thousand, right?
• 1:35:56
  Vipul Bindra: And then now they already know what the price is.
• 1:35:58
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I hope that makes sense.
• 1:35:59
  Vipul Bindra: There's no way to go to a client that paid you $500, and and there's a chance.
• 1:36:03
  Vipul Bindra: I know some people have done it.
• 1:36:04
  Vipul Bindra: They made a $200 client, and then next thing they charge them a thousand bucks.
• 1:36:08
  Vipul Bindra: Usually, though, that's not gonna happen.
• 1:36:09
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, right?
• 1:36:10
  Vipul Bindra: They'll find somebody else and be like, Oh, yeah, I can't afford that because that's what they're expecting now.
• 1:36:15
  Vipul Bindra: So usually you don't move clients.
• 1:36:17
  Vipul Bindra: My thing is you have to find a new clientele, that's just what it is.
• 1:36:20
  Vipul Bindra: And uh you should set your rate and you should find people and who are willing to pay that rate.
• 1:36:25
  Vipul Bindra: Now, it may be difficult in the beginning, which is why you want to have a 95 until then.
• 1:36:29
  Vipul Bindra: And then when you do, then like you said, you do your best.
• 1:36:33
  Vipul Bindra: Don't cut corners, don't and then you know, like I said, they'll refer, and then it's like a web, right?
• 1:36:38
  Vipul Bindra: The more you do, the longer you do this, the bigger the web gets, and then that's your rate.
• 1:36:42
  Vipul Bindra: But then you always have this struggle in life because then they're like, now I need to up my rate again.
• 1:36:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, then you start again.
• 1:36:48
  Vipul Bindra: It it is a thing, though.
• 1:36:50
  Vipul Bindra: Then good luck getting these people.
• 1:36:51
  Vipul Bindra: There's a high chance some may come back for a little higher rate, but usually the that tier is that tier.
• 1:36:57
  Vipul Bindra: Then you start again, right?
• 1:36:59
  Vipul Bindra: Then you have to go start all that again.
• 1:37:01
  Vipul Bindra: So usually it's like pick a rate that you're happy at that you want to make.
• 1:37:04
  Vipul Bindra: That's also reasonable.
• 1:37:05
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah if you never get a yes, then you are the problem, you know.
• 1:37:09
  Vipul Bindra: But it's okay, like in the big thousand dollars for exactly one headshot.
• 1:37:13
  Lamar Shealey: Well, I'm not Peter Peter Hurley, yeah.
• 1:37:14
  Lamar Shealey: I don't know if you ever heard of him.
• 1:37:16
  Vipul Bindra: I've heard the name, yeah.
• 1:37:17
  Lamar Shealey: That guy charges like a couple grand.
• 1:37:19
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:37:19
  Vipul Bindra: So I mean, yeah.
• 1:37:21
  Vipul Bindra: If if you can, and you have the club.
• 1:37:23
  Vipul Bindra: See, the thing is, it's also a skill thing.
• 1:37:25
  Vipul Bindra: What I'm saying is like I don't know.
• 1:37:29
  Vipul Bindra: And you know, you as you progress, you start taking photos, you know, they're good, but they're not there.
• 1:37:35
  Vipul Bindra: Then the next level, then the tier above, and they're the tier above, and then there's that guy, and you know, there's all levels, and then you should charge at your level.
• 1:37:43
  Vipul Bindra: My thing is if everyone's saying yes to you, your rates are too low.
• 1:37:46
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, if everyone's saying no to you, rates are high.
• 1:37:49
  Vipul Bindra: But sometimes that's rare.
• 1:37:51
  Vipul Bindra: That's what we were talking about, is switching clientele.
• 1:37:54
  Vipul Bindra: So usually I'm saying that's the easiest way to adjust, right?
• 1:37:57
  Vipul Bindra: But usually you are stuck in a clientele.
• 1:38:00
  Vipul Bindra: Let's say you're a student, you come out, you charge 100 bucks to make a music video, shooting, editing, providing equipment, everything, right?
• 1:38:08
  Vipul Bindra: Sounds good as a student.
• 1:38:09
  Vipul Bindra: You're like, yeah, I can make one in a few hours.
• 1:38:11
  Vipul Bindra: It's just, you know, obviously the tier of music is low.
• 1:38:14
  Vipul Bindra: Then you go to 200, you go to 300, you go to 400, and you're like, I'm good.
• 1:38:17
  Vipul Bindra: And now you're like, I'm stuck at $500 music videos.
• 1:38:20
  Vipul Bindra: Because guess what?
• 1:38:21
  Vipul Bindra: After that, the the level jump is huge, right?
• 1:38:23
  Vipul Bindra: You can't make that usually, but I'm saying with a phone and a computer, like you can.
• 1:38:28
  Vipul Bindra: And then that takes an effort, and that's usually it is.
• 1:38:31
  Vipul Bindra: You have to find out, and if you don't know, also I want to say that because people are like, I don't know.
• 1:38:35
  Vipul Bindra: That's when you go find somebody else.
• 1:38:37
  Vipul Bindra: Then you find somebody else who is charging that kind of money, and you say, Hey, let me come hang out with you on a shoot or something.
• 1:38:44
  Vipul Bindra: See what they do for that kind of money because it's not just charging certain money, exactly, and then I'm saying then you know, okay, you're like, Oh, sure, I I'll replicate that, right?
• 1:38:52
  Vipul Bindra: I'll give that level of quality, I'll bring that level of equipment, and now you can start charging that.
• 1:38:58
  Vipul Bindra: And it may take a while to start building new clientele.
• 1:39:00
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I hope that answers the question.
• 1:39:02
  Vipul Bindra: The point is, you yeah, if you are in that low tier pricing, I'm saying you have to just sometimes just completely start from scratch with completely new tier of clientele.
• 1:39:11
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, which is tough.
• 1:39:13
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I was starting so one thing that I don't shoot a lot of because I don't want to, is weddings.
• 1:39:20
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:39:20
  Lamar Shealey: Every time I do a wedding, I say, I need to charge more.
• 1:39:25
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:39:26
  Lamar Shealey: And I think I heard you talk about that with somebody on one of the other podcasts about the weddings.
• 1:39:32
  Lamar Shealey: It's hard work.
• 1:39:34
  Vipul Bindra: And remember, it's also it's different.
• 1:39:36
  Vipul Bindra: See, when a family comes to you, you have the ability to make them laugh, smile, get to know them, make them comfortable.
• 1:39:44
  Vipul Bindra: And and again, I'm not saying that each one is better, it's just different art form.
• 1:39:48
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, versus a vetting, uh, you know, you can't, I mean, sometimes you can stage them, I'm saying, but usually you can't control the situation a lot, right?
• 1:39:57
  Vipul Bindra: So you have to roll with the punches, unless you're just in point.
• 1:39:59
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:40:00
  Vipul Bindra: Then you can maybe you can be like, it's gonna be on YouTube.
• 1:40:03
  Vipul Bindra: Anyway, but you know, the point I'm trying to make is you're rolling with the punches, yeah.
• 1:40:09
  Vipul Bindra: And you know, and that's why it's a different art form.
• 1:40:11
  Vipul Bindra: You have to just obviously figure out how to give the most, and it's it may not be for for you, and obviously, and that's okay, and that's why people like weddings are not for me.
• 1:40:19
  Vipul Bindra: I can go make corporate videos all day every day.
• 1:40:22
  Lamar Shealey: And I will tell you, Indian weddings are uh amazing, yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Lamar Shealey: They are amazing.
• 1:40:27
  Lamar Shealey: I mean, if you like them, then they're like the end product.
• 1:40:30
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I'm saying the end product is I can make when they go all out and they have like the week long, and I'm like, man.
• 1:40:36
  Vipul Bindra: No, I mean they're amazing for people who love, like I said, people that love doing them.
• 1:40:39
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I grew up, you know, obviously watching enough weddings or going to enough weddings, and it was like it's awesome on one way, you know.
• 1:40:45
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, as a kid, I loved all the snacks and food you could eat.
• 1:40:48
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, you know, sky's the limit because it's usually buffet style or whatever.
• 1:40:52
  Vipul Bindra: But you know, there's the other side of it.
• 1:40:54
  Vipul Bindra: As an adult, I was like, do I ever want this party?
• 1:40:56
  Vipul Bindra: No, but some people love it.
• 1:40:57
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, it's a whole thing, you know, usually five days, you know, and then there's so many ceremonies, there's so many people, but it's like it's on the on it on it uh like attending.
• 1:41:07
  Vipul Bindra: I I'm not a big fan.
• 1:41:08
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, there are parties if you really like enjoying parties, but as a photographer, videographer, there are a lot of money.
• 1:41:14
  Vipul Bindra: You can charge a lot of money because there's a lot of days, there's a lot of work, but it's a lot, it's a lot of work, yeah.
• 1:41:20
  Vipul Bindra: It is a lot, yeah.
• 1:41:21
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:22
  Vipul Bindra: And and now some people I know will condense it, do it for a couple of days or whatever.
• 1:41:26
  Vipul Bindra: But it's still, I'm saying you are you do have the ability to charge a lot.
• 1:41:29
  Vipul Bindra: Now, obviously, not all Indians will pay high price again, because they can be cheap, but they can also be very spendy.
• 1:41:34
  Vipul Bindra: This is so funny thing about Indians.
• 1:41:36
  Vipul Bindra: At one point, they're like so cheap, but then on weddings they just blow money like nothing, so you never know.
• 1:41:41
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, but no, it's a good avenue.
• 1:41:44
  Vipul Bindra: If you like, again, if you like doing wedding video photo, there's a lot of money in it, especially like you said, Indian weddings or just even a regular American.
• 1:41:51
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, but they're just they're just amazing.
• 1:41:52
  Lamar Shealey: I just yeah, I just like looking at them.
• 1:41:53
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I mean, hey, if you enjoy it, then you should take more of those for photos, no?
• 1:41:57
  Lamar Shealey: I don't know.
• 1:41:58
  Lamar Shealey: You don't want to do it?
• 1:41:58
  Lamar Shealey: Like on the outside.
• 1:41:59
  Lamar Shealey: I'm saying as a as a person watching it.
• 1:42:01
  Vipul Bindra: Okay.
• 1:42:02
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, that was great.
• 1:42:04
  Lamar Shealey: But the person doing it, I'm like, man, like Yeah.
• 1:42:07
  Vipul Bindra: No, I don't do weddings.
• 1:42:08
  Lamar Shealey: 12 hour day for a week and then have to edit that.
• 1:42:12
  Vipul Bindra: Golly, I gotta Yeah, and then you have to understand what to edit where because you know certainly ceremony.
• 1:42:17
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:42:18
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, uh for me, like I said, I stay away from weddings, photo video.
• 1:42:22
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:42:23
  Vipul Bindra: Um, but I I have brought enough people on here who do that because I want people to know that's a very good avenue to make a good living.
• 1:42:29
  Vipul Bindra: It is.
• 1:42:30
  Vipul Bindra: I don't think you should say no to that because even I had dogs.
• 1:42:33
  Vipul Bindra: Try it out.
• 1:42:34
  Vipul Bindra: Even he was like, he does weddings, because try I would say try it out.
• 1:42:38
  Lamar Shealey: Because it's like it, yeah.
• 1:42:39
  Lamar Shealey: Um is if if you have the opportunity to try a wedding out, try it as a second shooter first.
• 1:42:45
  Vipul Bindra: Or don't ruin somebody's wedding.
• 1:42:47
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:42:48
  Lamar Shealey: Do that.
• 1:42:48
  Lamar Shealey: Um, because I would tell you the lower price weddings, they want you to do more.
• 1:42:52
  Lamar Shealey: My only I think I've had one and a half two people that were kind of not uh, and that'll be the next question I guess I ask you, that weren't fully satisfied.
• 1:43:02
  Lamar Shealey: One was they wanted to pay barely anything for a full-day wedding, photography and videography.
• 1:43:10
  Lamar Shealey: And I just pulled on my wife just to move the first the main camera, just to you know, but it's just me.
• 1:43:17
  Lamar Shealey: Okay, so I'm not gonna be able to capture everything.
• 1:43:20
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:43:20
  Lamar Shealey: And then even their pastor, they try to complain to their pastor, because I know him, and he was like, You you wanted something where you need like three people to do it, and you have one person doing it.
• 1:43:30
  Lamar Shealey: He's not gonna be able to capture everything.
• 1:43:32
  Lamar Shealey: You want a picture of the kiss?
• 1:43:34
  Lamar Shealey: I can't do video of the kiss.
• 1:43:36
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:43:36
  Vipul Bindra: So and then Oh, you were doing both photo and video.
• 1:43:39
  Vipul Bindra: Oh yeah, so why'd you say yes?
• 1:43:42
  Lamar Shealey: That was I was starting out.
• 1:43:44
  Lamar Shealey: Okay, yeah.
• 1:43:44
  Vipul Bindra: See that that's fair then.
• 1:43:46
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, because um And there's a way, there is a way to do it.
• 1:43:49
  Lamar Shealey: There is a way to do it.
• 1:43:51
  Vipul Bindra: I will disagree, but sure.
• 1:43:53
  Lamar Shealey: It's not going to be great.
• 1:43:54
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:43:55
  Vipul Bindra: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:43:56
  Lamar Shealey: It's not gonna be great, but if it's just like, hey, I just want to have it, you know, just hey, you know, some people might just put up a phone in the background.
• 1:44:02
  Lamar Shealey: So you're doing that better, and then maybe you're not taking pictures of the ceremony, you're taking pictures of the in-between.
• 1:44:10
  Lamar Shealey: So there's like stuff like that, yeah, but you're never gonna really capture the wedding fully with one person.
• 1:44:16
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and and my thing is it takes usually a couple of people to do in video video by itself, yeah.
• 1:44:21
  Vipul Bindra: It takes four people to do all to actually capture a wedding, you need at least four people.
• 1:44:26
  Vipul Bindra: Two pictures, two video.
• 1:44:27
  Vipul Bindra: There you go.
• 1:44:28
  Vipul Bindra: So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:44:29
  Vipul Bindra: If you make it one person, you're just it's just not gonna possibly do it correctly.
• 1:44:33
  Vipul Bindra: I'm sure there's some genius watching this who's like, let me show you.
• 1:44:37
  Vipul Bindra: And then they're an exception, I'm saying.
• 1:44:39
  Vipul Bindra: But usually, and that's okay.
• 1:44:41
  Vipul Bindra: When you're starting out, you do and tend to take I think deals like that.
• 1:44:45
  Vipul Bindra: And that's that's what the point of this is.
• 1:44:47
  Vipul Bindra: Please don't take those deals because you're like, there's better options out there, but you almost might as well do it for free.
• 1:44:53
  Vipul Bindra: But then the thing, the problem is I would never say, I would say if somebody tells you to do both photo and video, don't say yes.
• 1:44:59
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, even if it's free.
• 1:45:00
  Vipul Bindra: I don't care.
• 1:45:00
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, I think you would you should pick.
• 1:45:03
  Vipul Bindra: You would tell them that hey, I can do one or the other.
• 1:45:06
  Vipul Bindra: Which one do you want me to do?
• 1:45:07
  Vipul Bindra: Or choose or tell them which one you can do, whichever you prefer.
• 1:45:10
  Lamar Shealey: And if you don't take this advice, the first time you do it, you won't do it again.
• 1:45:14
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:45:15
  Vipul Bindra: Well, they were just not happy because obviously it's not your problem.
• 1:45:18
  Lamar Shealey: They were they were they and the other thing about weddings is the you gotta find out what they want and audio is probably probably the biggest thing with weddings.
• 1:45:29
  Lamar Shealey: How to capture good audio.
• 1:45:31
  Lamar Shealey: You gotta mic the groom and you gotta mic the official and if you're one person doing video, you're not gonna get it.
• 1:45:39
  Lamar Shealey: So you gotta set expectation.
• 1:45:41
  Lamar Shealey: Hey, you want one person to do video, recap video.
• 1:45:44
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:45:45
  Vipul Bindra: I think uh the thing from there to learn, and and I'm sure you already have, like you said, you obviously you come a long way from that.
• 1:45:51
  Vipul Bindra: It's just that like clients A don't understand what we do, yeah, or can be cheap, or you know, make unreasonable requests sometimes.
• 1:46:00
  Vipul Bindra: You know, we don't believe, I don't believe in the world.
• 1:46:02
  Vipul Bindra: I believe highly in client uh uh experience, taking care of them, giving them an amazing experience.
• 1:46:09
  Vipul Bindra: But that's not the same thing as saying yes to unreasonable requests, yeah.
• 1:46:14
  Vipul Bindra: Those are two different things.
• 1:46:15
  Vipul Bindra: So clients will always come and they'll say things like that.
• 1:46:18
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, the answer you, and like I said, I get it.
• 1:46:21
  Vipul Bindra: When you're new, you're starting out, especially if they're offering money, you just want to say yes to everything.
• 1:46:25
  Vipul Bindra: But personally, that's what I would do.
• 1:46:26
  Vipul Bindra: It's like it's it's impossible.
• 1:46:28
  Vipul Bindra: Like genuinely, like it's not being rude.
• 1:46:30
  Vipul Bindra: It's like, hey, yeah, it's impossible for one person to capture a wedding, photo or video.
• 1:46:35
  Vipul Bindra: Here's what I can do for you.
• 1:46:36
  Vipul Bindra: I can do video, here's my pricing, which can be now low if you're new.
• 1:46:40
  Vipul Bindra: That's okay to me, in my opinion, or even free if it's your first wedding.
• 1:46:43
  Vipul Bindra: But then I would be up front and be like, look, this is my first wedding.
• 1:46:46
  Vipul Bindra: I want to build a portfolio.
• 1:46:48
  Vipul Bindra: There's a contract if you sign it that I can use this for promotional purposes, I will happily record it free for you, but I can only do this.
• 1:46:56
  Vipul Bindra: And then I would still go to a friend and ask them to be a second shooter for free, being honest.
• 1:47:00
  Vipul Bindra: I would not do it alone, but you can.
• 1:47:02
  Vipul Bindra: I'm saying if you approach, it's not the end of the world, but I would definitely never do both, and that's the advice at least I would give to people, you know.
• 1:47:09
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and um the first time I did a wedding with whatever side it was the first time I did a wedding and and actually contracted it and had a videographer and a photographer, it was so great because those days are long, and at least just having somebody there with you.
• 1:47:25
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and and like I said, they're also taking the workload off.
• 1:47:28
  Vipul Bindra: Yes, exactly.
• 1:47:29
  Lamar Shealey: So if I'm the videographer and somebody else is the photographer, there's times where I don't need to tape anything, like when they're taking their pictures, so I just help pose people, yeah, make his day easier.
• 1:47:39
  Lamar Shealey: When I need to video certain things, he's there to kind of help me out, or have the other people and distract them so I can do this.
• 1:47:45
  Vipul Bindra: There you go.
• 1:47:45
  Lamar Shealey: So you have that.
• 1:47:46
  Lamar Shealey: Um, so I'm gonna ask this question and think about the past, right?
• 1:47:52
  Lamar Shealey: Because now I'm pretty sure you will handle it a lot differently.
• 1:47:54
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:47:55
  Lamar Shealey: And you probably wouldn't have many of those.
• 1:47:57
  Lamar Shealey: In the past, more in the beginning, middle stages, how would you deal with customers or clients that weren't completely satisfied?
• 1:48:06
  Vipul Bindra: You're not gonna a lot of people won't believe that I've never really had a dissatisfied client.
• 1:48:12
  Vipul Bindra: Couple of because I don't I again, I said I I yeah, just don't say no.
• 1:48:17
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, I could probably go more to my actual nine to five job than I used to have it.
• 1:48:20
  Vipul Bindra: There are a lot of clients, but that wasn't me because there's a company they were mad at, right?
• 1:48:25
  Vipul Bindra: But I'm saying as far as video goes, I normally I've only done stuff, like I said, where where I was happy.
• 1:48:30
  Vipul Bindra: Now, clients, like I said, have made unreasonable requests.
• 1:48:33
  Vipul Bindra: Like, for example, I'll tell you one of the earlier gigs, somebody wanted me to shoot something, so we contracted, I'll come out for two days or whatever, right?
• 1:48:40
  Vipul Bindra: They'll pay me and then I'll edit it.
• 1:48:42
  Vipul Bindra: That's the scope of work.
• 1:48:43
  Vipul Bindra: I always did that.
• 1:48:44
  Vipul Bindra: And then they're like, hey, today's the nice weather.
• 1:48:46
  Vipul Bindra: Why don't you for an hour go collect some footage from that area?
• 1:48:49
  Vipul Bindra: And I was like, sure, but that's gonna be an additional 200 bucks.
• 1:48:53
  Vipul Bindra: Even when I'm starting, I'm like, I'm not going.
• 1:48:54
  Vipul Bindra: Why would I?
• 1:48:56
  Vipul Bindra: That's not in the scope.
• 1:48:57
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, if I spend your full production day for that silly thing, that makes no sense.
• 1:49:02
  Vipul Bindra: Remember, we gotta do a second production day because we've only done one.
• 1:49:05
  Vipul Bindra: So I presented it like that.
• 1:49:06
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, hey, I gotta remember, we don't want to spend the production day on this, so let's save that for the real shoot day where we need to do all this.
• 1:49:15
  Vipul Bindra: How about I just for a couple hours give me a couple hundred bucks or whatever I said, I don't remember the exact amount, uh, maybe 150, something like that.
• 1:49:22
  Vipul Bindra: And then that too, so the answer was yeah, because like we're not playing around here, but at the same time, I would I'm if I'm new, I'm not gonna charge obviously thousands or all hours, like on how it would be for a shoot day.
• 1:49:32
  Vipul Bindra: But ultimately, the the that's how I approached it, and maybe I'm different, but I was always like, I'm not gonna let anyone take advantage of me.
• 1:49:39
  Vipul Bindra: Now, funny enough, actually, recently I was getting a couple of examples where clients were dissatisfied, and it's funny, it had nothing to do with me.
• 1:49:46
  Vipul Bindra: So uh one time um this guy was there, we were recording an event, it went amazing.
• 1:49:52
  Vipul Bindra: Like I contracted with them, and I always go above and beyond, so I charge them, which I think was very reasonable for like an hour long speech.
• 1:49:59
  Vipul Bindra: And that actually was way longer, but to cut it down to an hour, and I'm talking fairly technical.
• 1:50:05
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, I brought like four, uh no, one, two, six, six people, one guy on literal Ronin, and you know, gimbal and FX6 is everywhere, dude.
• 1:50:15
  Vipul Bindra: For five, six grand.
• 1:50:16
  Vipul Bindra: Like, I I know my rates are low, I'm not joking.
• 1:50:18
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm good because I'm like, this is easy.
• 1:50:20
  Vipul Bindra: A couple hours, everyone gets paid, life is good, but also, you know, we get to edit.
• 1:50:24
  Vipul Bindra: So, in one way, like it's like good money, but the other way, I'm like, it's reasonable for what I brought.
• 1:50:28
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, everything went amazing.
• 1:50:30
  Vipul Bindra: They're like, Yeah, you guys are great, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:50:32
  Vipul Bindra: Best team ever.
• 1:50:33
  Vipul Bindra: We give the video, and you know, obviously, we notice it, but we didn't say anything.
• 1:50:37
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, it's a live speech in front of like I'm saying hundreds and hundreds of people.
• 1:50:40
  Vipul Bindra: His pocket, he's wearing a suit, right?
• 1:50:43
  Vipul Bindra: Went came out, and because you know, I guess he had his hands or whatever.
• 1:50:46
  Vipul Bindra: We have nothing, we're back of the house.
• 1:50:48
  Vipul Bindra: You know how it is on risers.
• 1:50:49
  Vipul Bindra: And you and you can you're not gonna go there and say, Stop! Yeah, and funny enough, yeah, we noticed it, but I'm like, Well, this is edited.
• 1:50:55
  Vipul Bindra: The thing we delivered, they signed off the video too.
• 1:50:58
  Vipul Bindra: They remember, they haven't even still noticed it.
• 1:50:59
  Vipul Bindra: They was like, This is incredible, let's add subtitles, everything's done.
• 1:51:03
  Vipul Bindra: So I made even more money.
• 1:51:04
  Vipul Bindra: But yeah, we can add subtitles.
• 1:51:06
  Vipul Bindra: Life is good.
• 1:51:07
  Vipul Bindra: Anyway, done, signed off.
• 1:51:09
  Vipul Bindra: They're like, incredible video guys, well done.
• 1:51:11
  Vipul Bindra: We gotta talk more about videos, and then yeah, two days later, obviously, somebody finally noticed the pocket out.
• 1:51:17
  Vipul Bindra: And they as soon as they pointed out, the guy's like upset.
• 1:51:20
  Vipul Bindra: He's like, Oh my goodness, somebody should have told me, you know, my pock's up.
• 1:51:23
  Vipul Bindra: Like, no, that's unreasonable because A, first of all, it's a live event, and then two, it's not my put your pocket in.
• 1:51:30
  Vipul Bindra: The guy on the roan in it.
• 1:51:31
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 1:51:32
  Vipul Bindra: Like, and two, you know, I mean, it's one thing on a studio, obviously we can we can do that.
• 1:51:36
  Vipul Bindra: But like on a live A, I'm not looking for that.
• 1:51:38
  Vipul Bindra: Wardrobe is not my thing.
• 1:51:40
  Vipul Bindra: But two, uh, you know, I'm I'm not even I'm just I was asked literally the scope of work was record a speech.
• 1:51:48
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that is videography, that's not filmmaking.
• 1:51:51
  Vipul Bindra: I'm not there to check for wardrobe, I'm there to record a speech, and I did it way, way amazing than you know what the the task was.
• 1:51:58
  Vipul Bindra: A we never checked the wardrobe.
• 1:52:01
  Vipul Bindra: B, once we started rolling, you're on stage.
• 1:52:03
  Vipul Bindra: At that point, it's too late.
• 1:52:04
  Vipul Bindra: Now it's one thing, yeah.
• 1:52:05
  Vipul Bindra: If I was there, I saw it.
• 1:52:07
  Vipul Bindra: You're marking them up, and you're like, oh, okay.
• 1:52:09
  Vipul Bindra: But we didn't notice anything until they were on stage, it was rolling, so I don't know at what point it happened.
• 1:52:13
  Vipul Bindra: It's not on, in my opinion, us.
• 1:52:15
  Vipul Bindra: When it's rolling, I can't, I in my opinion, I'm not gonna stop them.
• 1:52:20
  Vipul Bindra: I don't care what's happening, I'm not going up there to stop the speech or even any of my cam ops.
• 1:52:24
  Vipul Bindra: Mario, did you feel confident enough to go spot stop the speech?
• 1:52:27
  Vipul Bindra: Do you know the project I'm talking about?
• 1:52:29
  Vipul Bindra: Okay, would you have I'm saying Dared in front of 300 people where you were on the gimbal and Anthony was on the Ronin?
• 1:52:38
  Vipul Bindra: Would you have gone and stopped the speech to fix a pocket?
• 1:52:41
  Vipul Bindra: Not really.
• 1:52:42
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:52:43
  Vipul Bindra: I don't know anyone with it, and I don't know the right way to approach it.
• 1:52:46
  Vipul Bindra: That would be somebody on their team.
• 1:52:48
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, but to be honest, the way I approached it, and again, I think my approach was so professional.
• 1:52:52
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, as soon as they were like, hey, we don't like that.
• 1:52:54
  Vipul Bindra: I was like, Yeah, I absolutely I agree with you.
• 1:52:56
  Vipul Bindra: I think that's unfortunate that there was a wardrobe issue.
• 1:53:00
  Vipul Bindra: You know, next time we should take a look at that, like I'll make sure somebody in your team checks for that.
• 1:53:06
  Vipul Bindra: And he's like, Yeah, I wish you guys you're you had seven people that somebody would have noticed that.
• 1:53:10
  Vipul Bindra: I'm like, Yeah, we did notice that.
• 1:53:12
  Vipul Bindra: But you know, you normally, if you're supposed to check wardrobe, we'd bring a wardrobe person, but that wasn't in the scope of the work.
• 1:53:18
  Vipul Bindra: But here's something nice I can do for you.
• 1:53:20
  Vipul Bindra: No, I even offered, forget the wardrobe.
• 1:53:22
  Vipul Bindra: I say, if you want, we can always add in a wardrobe person, but I'm just happy in general next time to come look at you before you go on stage and confirm the wardrobe looks good.
• 1:53:30
  Vipul Bindra: That's going above and beyond.
• 1:53:32
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and I think next and next time he probably won't even make that mistake.
• 1:53:35
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 1:53:35
  Vipul Bindra: But I'm saying these type of things happen, you know, it's a live thing.
• 1:53:38
  Vipul Bindra: And that's the nature of life.
• 1:53:39
  Vipul Bindra: Sneeze the booger on your hair.
• 1:53:40
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:53:41
  Lamar Shealey: And I'm can't you take that out?
• 1:53:43
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:53:43
  Vipul Bindra: No.
• 1:53:43
  Vipul Bindra: So anyway, so but I'm saying, talk about, like you said, the clients are dissatisfied.
• 1:53:48
  Vipul Bindra: And I and I'm sure no matter what I could have said, said there or done there, they're just gonna blame.
• 1:53:53
  Vipul Bindra: And because you know, people, human nature, you're looking for you cannot blame yourself.
• 1:53:57
  Vipul Bindra: Because I'm pretty sure at some point, most likely I'm guessing, uh, I I can go back, probably look at the footage.
• 1:54:02
  Vipul Bindra: He put it probably put his hand there and it came out, right?
• 1:54:04
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, true, or somebody else did.
• 1:54:05
  Vipul Bindra: Either way, I'm saying we had nothing to do with that, but their nature is not human nature is not to go, oh, I I effed up or whatever.
• 1:54:13
  Vipul Bindra: It's like those guys, and I approach it like that.
• 1:54:17
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, mine was hey, this is what happened, this is how we can resolve it professionally, but as a courtesy, I'll do that job, even though it's not in my scope of work or my job, because I want I genuinely care about making a good product because now it sucks because they were so happy with it, they were gonna use that product, and now they're not they can't use it, right?
• 1:54:35
  Vipul Bindra: I see the point of theirs because it bothers them.
• 1:54:38
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and kind of does bother me too, but there's nothing we can do about it because otherwise we do it in a controlled setting.
• 1:54:44
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, but that's not that.
• 1:54:46
  Lamar Shealey: And to go back to that wedding that they were not satisfied with, they were using the sound system of the church, they weren't talking in the mics.
• 1:54:54
  Lamar Shealey: No, so there was no way for you to get audio.
• 1:54:57
  Lamar Shealey: There's no way for me to get audio.
• 1:54:59
  Vipul Bindra: Was there a board that you could have pulled it from or whatever?
• 1:55:01
  Vipul Bindra: No.
• 1:55:02
  Lamar Shealey: Even so at that point, you know, I didn't, you know, know about well, I've done sound before, of course, but I didn't have any of that kind of stuff.
• 1:55:09
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:55:09
  Lamar Shealey: So um, I didn't have any wireless mics.
• 1:55:12
  Lamar Shealey: I just had like a little, you know, the little road ones that they used to have.
• 1:55:15
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, I don't even know where mine is anymore.
• 1:55:17
  Lamar Shealey: But even with that, they weren't like they weren't talking in the mic.
• 1:55:21
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:55:23
  Lamar Shealey: So a lot of times during these weddings, the officiants talking on the mic.
• 1:55:28
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and they're just and they never give them the mic.
• 1:55:30
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:55:31
  Lamar Shealey: Alright, what's your vows?
• 1:55:33
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and then they're talking, and most people can't hear them.
• 1:55:36
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, you can't hear them, so like during that, and the and the pastor kind of had had my back to with that.
• 1:55:42
  Lamar Shealey: I was like, there was no way I could get, I mean, I can't stop the wedding.
• 1:55:44
  Lamar Shealey: And it kind of went to the same thing.
• 1:55:46
  Lamar Shealey: I couldn't stop you and say, hey, talk louder or say into this.
• 1:55:50
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah.
• 1:55:50
  Lamar Shealey: And um, so everything worked out good.
• 1:55:53
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and like I say, it was your first because now you know, like you can mic the groom, right?
• 1:55:58
  Vipul Bindra: Throw one of those recorder mic, not the one I'm talking, go, but you know the one that internally records, so it never has to transmit.
• 1:56:04
  Vipul Bindra: So I think stuff like that.
• 1:56:05
  Lamar Shealey: If I was going to weddings, there's a few different ways of doing it.
• 1:56:08
  Lamar Shealey: There is the you know, kind of documentary kind of like what kind of uh clip kind of version of it, and then there's the the whole entire wedding.
• 1:56:17
  Lamar Shealey: And I think one of the biggest things, if you're gonna do weddings, audio, audio, audio, audio.
• 1:56:23
  Lamar Shealey: If you have one camera, you probably need three or four mics.
• 1:56:26
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 1:56:26
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you gotta definite, at least, I mean, I know people who try to bride them mic the brides, but that can be difficult, I get it.
• 1:56:34
  Vipul Bindra: So at least Mike the groom and Mike the offician, and but also the type of mic that will record, you know, like a tentacle sync track E or a pocket, I think uh DD has I mean a lot of companies have recorders, what I'm saying.
• 1:56:46
  Vipul Bindra: The ones that record internally, sure they can maybe transmit too, but you want to have the recording it happening in there.
• 1:56:53
  Vipul Bindra: So if your camera disconnects or something weird happens, you can just go and pull it out.
• 1:56:59
  Vipul Bindra: DJ's messed up my audio before.
• 1:57:00
  Vipul Bindra: I haven't tried flipped into him.
• 1:57:03
  Lamar Shealey: I've had uh and I was like, okay, so there's another way of doing it where they just tape the mic on that their mic as a backup.
• 1:57:10
  Lamar Shealey: Yep.
• 1:57:11
  Lamar Shealey: Um, yeah, but I was just like, yeah, this is too much.
• 1:57:15
  Vipul Bindra: Or they've lost my.
• 1:57:15
  Vipul Bindra: I've had again, not vettings, but in general, I've given my mic to a soundboard or whatever, and then it's not there.
• 1:57:22
  Vipul Bindra: And then at that point, I'm like, I'm not gonna fight with them.
• 1:57:25
  Vipul Bindra: You know, it's like you go in there like, yeah, it was just right here, not here anymore.
• 1:57:28
  Vipul Bindra: And it's like, really?
• 1:57:29
  Vipul Bindra: Uh-huh.
• 1:57:30
  Vipul Bindra: Uh so you know, it's like stuff.
• 1:57:31
  Vipul Bindra: So I'm like, I just like to do my own mics, get my own recorders.
• 1:57:34
  Vipul Bindra: Yep.
• 1:57:35
  Vipul Bindra: That way, it's just less risk, less dealing with it.
• 1:57:38
  Vipul Bindra: And even if I pull from them, I generally now do with an XLR.
• 1:57:41
  Vipul Bindra: That was I'm like, yeah, I have it, and worst case, I'm just doing my own anyway.
• 1:57:45
  Vipul Bindra: This is just a backup.
• 1:57:47
  Vipul Bindra: Um, because like you said, there's a lot of variables in real life.
• 1:57:50
  Vipul Bindra: Because it's see the thing about studio is it brings its own challenges.
• 1:57:53
  Vipul Bindra: Yes.
• 1:57:54
  Vipul Bindra: But you can you can stop, you can fix, you can go back.
• 1:57:58
  Vipul Bindra: Real life events, conferences.
• 1:58:00
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, I'm talking corporate side events, and even churches, conferences.
• 1:58:04
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, anything that's live, you you you gotta be prepared for anything and everything to go wrong, and usually it will.
• 1:58:11
  Vipul Bindra: Power going out.
• 1:58:13
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, we've had that happen.
• 1:58:14
  Lamar Shealey: So our last conference at the church we were at.
• 1:58:16
  Lamar Shealey: Um, we were in a place where like I think we were seeing like 800 people were almost packed.
• 1:58:22
  Lamar Shealey: Quentin was there with me, and the sound, the church was like, the audio guy asked, Well, how much what's your power that you have in your building?
• 1:58:30
  Lamar Shealey: And he's like, Oh, it's enough.
• 1:58:31
  Lamar Shealey: Well, we'll see.
• 1:58:33
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, the power cut off like a couple times.
• 1:58:37
  Lamar Shealey: Cut off like probably like five.
• 1:58:39
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, and that could corrupt an audio file, you know, or a video file.
• 1:58:42
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, video file, so that kind of messed us up too.
• 1:58:44
  Lamar Shealey: The live goes out, the internet goes out.
• 1:58:47
  Lamar Shealey: Oh man.
• 1:58:48
  Vipul Bindra: So yeah, even if you had a battery backup live time, the internet.
• 1:58:50
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, so even even when you so you gotta have a uh live view again, it's going back to, but that's expensive, yeah.
• 1:58:58
  Lamar Shealey: It's expensive, yes it is.
• 1:58:59
  Lamar Shealey: And even with um the level at where my church does it at, right?
• 1:59:04
  Lamar Shealey: So we're in the midst of we what happens, we've been doing it so long that when we started catching up, we're still we we caught up, and then we get behind because you're doing it for so long, and it's not like live is making a whole bunch of money in those type of situations.
• 1:59:20
  Lamar Shealey: So it's like we're now we're behind, and now we gotta upgrade all this stuff, but it's like we gotta upgrade this, this, this, this.
• 1:59:28
  Lamar Shealey: So I'm like, I just keep it on the back burner and say I have a list of everything they need.
• 1:59:32
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, no, that's that's very smart because like you said, uh, and and like I said, I don't want to go or just defend because there will be people who are just unreasonable.
• 1:59:41
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, and that's why you uh I and again, my advice would be to also uh, you know, how they audition you, like they choose you out of all the vetting video or or event video people.
• 1:59:50
  Vipul Bindra: You you have to do the same thing.
• 1:59:51
  Vipul Bindra: Always meet with people either through video call or through um you know in-person meeting if you can.
• 1:59:58
  Vipul Bindra: So you can also vibe check them because you'll know immediately, you know, if they're fit or not.
• 2:00:02
  Vipul Bindra: Because don't be afraid to say no.
• 2:00:04
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, don't please don't be afraid to say no because I've gotten bad vibes and said I just can't do it.
• 2:00:08
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, you could just say I'm I'm not free, I'm not available, or I doesn't seem like a good fit.
• 2:00:13
  Lamar Shealey: You know, sometimes it's past that point.
• 2:00:15
  Lamar Shealey: He's like, No, I guess no, yeah, yeah.
• 2:00:17
  Lamar Shealey: I've had to say that once.
• 2:00:19
  Lamar Shealey: No, and that's okay.
• 2:00:20
  Lamar Shealey: Yeah, try not to, or I you know, make the excuse I'm not available.
• 2:00:24
  Vipul Bindra: Or or no, just say this this doesn't seem like the right fit.
• 2:00:27
  Vipul Bindra: So thank you.
• 2:00:28
  Vipul Bindra: That's that's what I'm saying.
• 2:00:29
  Vipul Bindra: You can be honest and and and move on because at the end day, like you said, it's better to do now than when the wedding's over.
• 2:00:36
  Vipul Bindra: And because that's that's not I don't want to be in that situation.
• 2:00:39
  Vipul Bindra: Uh-huh.
• 2:00:39
  Vipul Bindra: Like I said, if a client can get us upset about a pocket that had no control over us, I can't imagine uh uh you know somebody who's wedding, especially if they care, you know, they planned it, they they they did all that, and then then never never to have that video again.
• 2:00:54
  Vipul Bindra: I I don't want to be that person, is what I'm saying.
• 2:00:56
  Vipul Bindra: So I'd rather find the vibe, make sure you know you you match with the couple and and the bride and whoever, and you understand their expectations, you charge appropriately at the level you are, and then you set the expectations.
• 2:01:08
  Vipul Bindra: I would even send them an example, like this is what I've done, like something you've actually done, so they can get an idea, you know.
• 2:01:14
  Vipul Bindra: Oh, yeah, that matches.
• 2:01:15
  Vipul Bindra: I love that.
• 2:01:16
  Vipul Bindra: There you go, then do that, right?
• 2:01:17
  Vipul Bindra: And if it doesn't, then they'll know, you know, we're looking for something higher end or lower end or whatever, and then you know, it's it's a conversation.
• 2:01:24
  Lamar Shealey: And one of the things I know um in the beginning is learning the style that you do things because when you're when you're in the beginning and starting out, you don't have a style, so you don't really know what you're gonna do.
• 2:01:38
  Vipul Bindra: That's when, like you said, I think you earlier said perfectly go be a second shooter for someone.
• 2:01:41
  Vipul Bindra: Exactly.
• 2:01:42
  Vipul Bindra: See I wish I would have done that more.
• 2:01:44
  Vipul Bindra: Because yeah, because you learn from that other people, and and and also do it for more than one person, because if you just go with one, you just learn what they're doing.
• 2:01:50
  Vipul Bindra: Yep.
• 2:01:50
  Vipul Bindra: I think you should go try out with three, four people.
• 2:01:53
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, you know, obviously good get good at camera, go do that, help them out, uh, you know, shoot enough, and I think you'll know very soon if A, this is even for you.
• 2:02:02
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah.
• 2:02:03
  Vipul Bindra: Or, and then if it is, then you know, which style, or you can mix and match and make your own thing, then do your first wedding for free, where you, you know, build this style or your own one, and then you go now show it to other couples, and that's how you would get couples.
• 2:02:16
  Vipul Bindra: The thing is, I think the summary of all this is you can make money doing weddings, you can do photo, you can do video, you can make money building a studio, yeah, uh, you can make money doing corporate stuff, you can uh do live events, you can go help your church and travel the world.
• 2:02:32
  Vipul Bindra: I mean, there's so much.
• 2:02:33
  Vipul Bindra: So, if you're passionate about photo and video, yeah, there's so many avenues to pursue.
• 2:02:39
  Vipul Bindra: So the best thing you have to do is just do it.
• 2:02:42
  Vipul Bindra: That's it.
• 2:02:42
  Vipul Bindra: And I can't believe our time is up and I could talk for you so long.
• 2:02:47
  Vipul Bindra: This is amazing.
• 2:02:48
  Vipul Bindra: The conversation was incredible, Lamar.
• 2:02:50
  Vipul Bindra: Um, before we go, please title everyone where they can find you, follow you, tell them about the studio, all that.
• 2:02:57
  Lamar Shealey: Okay, so um, my name is Lamar Sheeley, and uh LS Services is my company name.
• 2:03:03
  Lamar Shealey: Delta Studios is the studio.
• 2:03:06
  Lamar Shealey: If you go on Instagram, Facebook, Delta Studios Orlando, if you or you can find me on Lamar at Lamar Sheeley, all the platforms.
• 2:03:14
  Lamar Shealey: Um, our website, I think it's Delta Studios.com.
• 2:03:19
  Lamar Shealey: And then um I have LS Services.biz.
• 2:03:21
  Lamar Shealey: You can go to either one of them and um yeah, catch me up, you know, talking.
• 2:03:30
  Vipul Bindra: We shooting.
• 2:03:30
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, what are we doing here?
• 2:03:32
  Vipul Bindra: Uh no, yeah.
• 2:03:33
  Vipul Bindra: Um, reach out to him if you ever in the Orlando area, you guys need a studio to shoot a podcast or something indoors, also just in general for advice, questions, and um our or his business partner through Delta Studios, if you want to talk about it.
• 2:03:47
  Vipul Bindra: Or whatever, he was here last season, pull up his episode, watch him, you know.
• 2:03:52
  Vipul Bindra: Uh and then uh yeah, that's about it.
• 2:03:54
  Vipul Bindra: Dude, I want to really thank you.
• 2:03:56
  Vipul Bindra: This was an incredible conversation.
• 2:03:57
  Vipul Bindra: I had such a great time with you.
• 2:03:59
  Vipul Bindra: Uh, like I said, you have an incredible positive energy.
• 2:04:01
  Vipul Bindra: Thank you.
• 2:04:02
  Vipul Bindra: And I really like you know your partner sometimes.
• 2:04:04
  Vipul Bindra: Uh I'm talking business partner, and uh yeah, not that but you know, Quentin's a good, great guy, and um, you know, I'm so glad you guys came together and what you're doing.
• 2:04:13
  Vipul Bindra: I really like what you're doing, and I wish you both the success.
• 2:04:16
  Vipul Bindra: Thank you.
• 2:04:16
  Vipul Bindra: And I'm here, however, I can help you.
• 2:04:19
  Vipul Bindra: And thank you, Mario, for another episode for producing it, cutting it for us.
• 2:04:24
  Vipul Bindra: Thank you so much.
• 2:04:24
  Vipul Bindra: Yeah, thank you.
• 2:04:27
  Vipul Bindra: And uh thank you again.
• 2:04:28
  Vipul Bindra: Appreciate you, brother.
• 2:04:29
  Vipul Bindra: And thank you for watching another episode of Studio B Sessions with me, Bendra, and we will see you again next time.
• 2:04:35
  Vipul Bindra: Don't forget Thursdays, every Thursday, yeah, morning.
• 2:04:39
  Vipul Bindra: All right, bye.
• 2:04:40
  Vipul Bindra: All right, bye.