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Dogs Have Wolf Ancestry | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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Speaker 2: do I do a good job on this broadcast, don't
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Speaker 2: I damn straight, Okay, I happen to be a sort
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Speaker 2: of a fanatic about real estate prices.
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Speaker 1: I just it's the thing for me.
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Speaker 2: I just happened to talk about and enjoy, literally enjoy,
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Speaker 2: and in my head and with others get into prices.
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Speaker 2: And since I just bought my home, we talked prices,
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Speaker 2: since I sold the Persian Palace, I'm particularly interested in
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Speaker 2: home prices these last days. So let's talk about you.
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Speaker 2: If you're serious about selling your home, you probably have
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Speaker 2: to drop the price. Overpriced houses are languishing on the market.
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Speaker 2: Buyers are continued to be deterred by elevated mortgage rates.
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Speaker 1: There's no longer three percent money.
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Speaker 2: Economic uncertainty during COVID and everybody was staying at home,
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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden.
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Speaker 1: Houses go up in value right after that.
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Speaker 2: Sellers actually optimistically priced their homes based on sales from
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Speaker 2: the twenty from the twenty twenties, right from five years ago,
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Speaker 2: when there was three percent money, when there were plenty
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Speaker 2: of houses available and people were snamping them up. Jessica Lotts,
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Speaker 2: who's deputy chief Economists at the National Association of Realtors,
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Speaker 2: who's really on top of that, tells owners. If you
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Speaker 2: are going to sell, calibrate your asking price by looking
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Speaker 2: at what comparable houses are in the neighborhood that sold
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Speaker 2: for the last month or so. Do not go back
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Speaker 2: five years. That ain't happening. What you want to do
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Speaker 2: is what happened the last couple of months. Twenty percent
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Speaker 2: of listings in October had a price cut, according to
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Speaker 2: realtor dot com. That's a lot of homes that are
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Speaker 2: price cut because we're used to having homes that are
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Speaker 2: just snapped up.
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Speaker 1: Well that's not the case anymore.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, the twenty percent is twice as
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Speaker 2: high as when the price is soared during the pandemic.
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Speaker 2: And what happens if you set the price too high, Well,
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Speaker 2: it doesn't sell, It drags on and you have to
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Speaker 2: lower the price. After a period of several months, you
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Speaker 2: realize I can't get the price, so I now have
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Speaker 2: to lower it. Listings that sold after the price reduction
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Speaker 2: spend five times as many days on the market as
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Speaker 2: the average home that was listed correctly.
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Speaker 1: Now keep in mind, I mean what does that mean.
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Speaker 2: Okay, you have listed your house and it's too expensive,
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Speaker 2: and then you reduce the price. Well, even after the reduction,
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Speaker 2: It takes five times longer to sell your house. If
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Speaker 2: the home is priced directly, they also get one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent of their asking price almost immediately. When I bought
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Speaker 2: my house here in Orange County, I paid market for
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Speaker 2: the price I paid what was basically listed. I got
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a discount, but not much. And
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Speaker 2: that's if it was priced correctly, and a house across
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Speaker 2: the street sold and a house down the street sold
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Speaker 2: very quickly.
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Speaker 1: They were priced correctly in my neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: If the listing has been around on the market for
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Speaker 2: a month or more, what happens is home buyers are
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Speaker 2: now talking about negotiating a discount after three months if
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Speaker 2: your house is on the market. Usually prices dropped by
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Speaker 2: five percent after a year, and there are plenty of
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Speaker 2: homes that sit there for a year when the price
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Speaker 2: way too high. Then that reduces more than twelve percent.
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Speaker 2: And keeping on to a house that is too high
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Speaker 2: priced for period of many months or a year, imagine
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Speaker 2: what it costs you. If you already moved, you're screwed.
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Speaker 2: You have an empty house and is costing you a fortune.
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Speaker 2: But even you have to stay well if you're selling
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Speaker 2: it based on if you're buying it based on another house,
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Speaker 2: or selling it based on a property that you've bought
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Speaker 2: or intend on buying, you're holding on You can't do that.
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Speaker 2: So today it's buyers who have time, they have leverage,
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Speaker 2: and they're making offers under.
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Speaker 1: The listing price. Remember the stories.
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Speaker 2: I mean, people were buying houses for a period of
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Speaker 2: time site unseen because there was such a ridiculous demand
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Speaker 2: for housing, and they were offering prices that were way higher,
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Speaker 2: I mean over market. So a house to be listed
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Speaker 2: at seven hundred thousand dollars, let's say, quite often it
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Speaker 2: went for eight hundred eight point fifty.
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Speaker 1: That's what it used to be.
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Speaker 2: Not that way any longer. You have to be realistic
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Speaker 2: about it when listing a price. And just to tell
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Speaker 2: you how crazy I am about looking at housing prices,
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Speaker 2: Lindsay spent a couple of days in Las Vegas and
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Speaker 2: she brought home usually you know yet little knickknacks magnet
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Speaker 2: for the mirror, that sort of thing. She brought home
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Speaker 2: a booklet of homes that were listed. You've seen those
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Speaker 2: home magazines, and I go through it. Okay, this one,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, this isn't worth two million dollars. Look
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Speaker 2: at this, this is what they offer, this is what
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Speaker 2: they don't.
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Speaker 1: So having been that way, now an easy way.
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Speaker 2: Of course of selling your home, and I do commercials
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Speaker 2: as you know, for direct buyers dot com. None of
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Speaker 2: that happens. I mean that just disappears instantly. But there
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Speaker 2: are many ways to sell your house, as you know.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 2: And one fun story about dogs, modern dogs and how
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Speaker 2: they have well connected to wolves.
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Speaker 1: And we know that dogs.
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Speaker 2: Came from wolves, I mean that's sort of a given.
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Speaker 2: And then and interbreeding of wolves and dogs and over
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Speaker 2: the thousands and thousands of years, I mean going back
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Speaker 2: maybe thirty thousand years, you have the modern dog now.
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Speaker 2: But there is now a science science has proven that
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Speaker 2: there is a detectable wolf ancestry and how much in
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Speaker 2: modern dogs. And these are researchers at the American Museum
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Speaker 2: of National History, New York Smithsonian National Museum of National
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Speaker 2: History and have found the majority of today's dog have
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Speaker 2: wolf ancestry genetic They can prove it. Now the fun
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Speaker 2: part is the levels of wolf ancestry, the ancestral ties
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Speaker 2: because of DNA to wolves is very low, but is detectable.
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Speaker 1: And these ties.
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Speaker 2: Have probably impacted how the dog's body size since the
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Speaker 2: personality traits are there. And the scientists studied twenty six
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Speaker 2: hundred wolf and dog DNA sets and found that sixty
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Speaker 2: four percent of modern breed dogs carry wolf ancestry. And
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Speaker 2: this is due to the genetic cross breeding, because people
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Speaker 2: crossbred dogs like crazy. And now we have, you know,
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Speaker 2: these dogs and many different kinds and the highest amount
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Speaker 2: of wolf ancestry, and no one's going to guess this
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Speaker 2: happens to be the free roaming village dogs, which I
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Speaker 2: have no idea what a free roaming village dog is
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Speaker 2: because I don't have free roaming dogs and I don't
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Speaker 2: live in a village.
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Speaker 1: Audrey Lynn is the lead author of this study and says.
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Speaker 2: Prior to the study, the leading science suggested that in
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Speaker 2: order for dog to be a dog, there can't be
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Speaker 2: very much wolf DNA left in the dog because it's
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Speaker 2: all gone. However, in modern dog genomes, wolf is there in.
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Speaker 2: The question is how much so. Today, dogs as we
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Speaker 2: know them are the result of evolution, starting with gray
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Speaker 2: wolves that we know who lived thousands.
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Speaker 1: Of years ago.
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Speaker 2: People and gray wolves interacted more and more food, you know,
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Speaker 2: they were coming up. It makes sense, and the wolves
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Speaker 2: became domesticated and the gene pool starts separating. And this
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Speaker 2: connection between wolves and dogs is called something introgression. It
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Speaker 2: occurs when a parent species repeatedly transfers genetic material into
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Speaker 2: the gene pool of another species and off it splits
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Speaker 2: and they become different like dogs. Now it's rare, but
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Speaker 2: animals have done this in order to survive. And here
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Speaker 2: is the fun part. It's not a question of just
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Speaker 2: wolves eating. You know, coming up, you have a piece
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Speaker 2: of chicken or an animal, a piece of game, and
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Speaker 2: you throw it to the wolf, and then you throw
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Speaker 2: it closer and closer, and it comes up and realizes
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Speaker 2: you're a good guy. Over thousands of years, but it
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Speaker 2: was done in animals to survive. For example, wolves were
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Speaker 2: brought in or wolves slash dogs high altitude survival. They
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Speaker 2: are not high altitude, yet they were bred to be
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Speaker 2: high altitude.
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Speaker 1: They became high altitude.
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Speaker 2: They added this transfer of high altitude genes if you want,
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Speaker 2: and as wolves became dogs, and what it was helping
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Speaker 2: dogs survive. It's a question of survival, not just inner breeding.
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Speaker 2: And so the researchers looked at multiple breeds and they
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Speaker 2: started well they actually looked at the United Kennel Clubs
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Speaker 2: categories and then categories the animals, and this is hilarious,
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Speaker 2: well not hilarious, but I don't understand it.
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Speaker 1: Twelve final groups sled dogs. We all know what the
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Speaker 1: are about, pariahs.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming they're much like I am on the show Paria.
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Speaker 1: Hunting dogs.
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Speaker 2: We get that, fighting dogs, Okay, we know about that
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Speaker 2: sight hounds, which is different than scent hounds.
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Speaker 1: Then they're just hounds.
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Speaker 2: Then they're hurting dogs, and the toy dogs and guardian
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Speaker 2: dogs and gun dogs, gun dogs who are some of
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Speaker 2: them are so good at hunting and shooting that they
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Speaker 2: go to the Olympics for the dog category. And terriers
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Speaker 2: and three of the breeds the DNA showed consistent and
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Speaker 2: more evidence of wolf antistry wolf ancestry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, here's three breeds that I'm sure you know.
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Speaker 2: The Great Anglo French tricolor hound, the Great ang Goal
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Speaker 2: or Anglais French tricolor hound. Okay, that's the two, and
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Speaker 2: I don't know the difference, and the Shiloh Shepherd. These
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Speaker 2: have the most wolf DNA and I have no idea
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Speaker 2: what those are about.
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Speaker 1: But I just wanted to share with you.
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Speaker 2: And then interestingly enough, the team found that wolf ancestry
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Speaker 2: to a small amount in dogs like chihuahuas. Do Chihuahua's
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Speaker 2: remind you of wolves? They nip at your ankles, And
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Speaker 2: there were multiple patterns. For example, large dogs have higher
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Speaker 2: wolf ancestry in them. We're talking about Arctic sled dogs,
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Speaker 2: Paria breeds, whatever that is, hunting dogs. And the ones
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Speaker 2: that have the least are the terriers, the gun dogs,
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Speaker 2: and the scent hound hogs or no, not hound hogs,
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Speaker 2: the scent hounds, you know, like the bassett hounds.
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Speaker 1: Right with the big ears, and those are great fun.
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Speaker 2: And how wolves had actually helped the dogs adapt to
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Speaker 2: their surroundings. So it's not just interbreeding with people doing
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Speaker 2: this interbreeding and having different dogs. It is literally adapting
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Speaker 2: to surroundings. For example, the smell their smell trait. There
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Speaker 2: are village dogs, they have the strongest ones, rely on
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Speaker 2: food waste that people threw away, right, and dogs had
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Speaker 2: to solve all kinds of evolutionary problems that comes with
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Speaker 2: living with humans, either surviving at a high altitude, searching
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Speaker 2: for their next meal, protecting the herd. And I've got
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Speaker 2: two little doxies, as you know. And they are bred
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Speaker 2: and succeed admirably, admirably at peeing in the house, crapping
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Speaker 2: in the house, barking incessantly, and uh when someone comes
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Speaker 2: to the door, nipping at their ankles. I have hugely
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Speaker 2: successful dogs. Okay, we're done, fair enough, cono dog.
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Speaker 1: I love a dog. I don't care if you love them.
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Speaker 1: Do you have one? There's a lot of around my city.
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Speaker 1: There's on the street. And then does that mean does
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Speaker 1: that mean no? Yeh okay? And I know, uh, Amy,
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Speaker 1: you have a cat, right, I have two cats. I
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Speaker 1: used to have dogs.
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Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I know, I get that. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: of I'm such a dog person. I just don't like cats.
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Speaker 2: I'm just not into cats. They just don't taste this good. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And yes, yes, you have dogs? How many dogs? You
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Speaker 1: have to see me too? Two dogs? What kind do
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Speaker 1: you have?
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Speaker 2: Lab?
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Speaker 1: And a husky? Oh?
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Speaker 2: Okay, oh husky. I love huskies. They don't even bark,
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Speaker 2: they howl. Yeah, I love it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. My daughter has a husky and it just howls.
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Speaker 2: Oh.
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Speaker 1: I love that dog. Okay.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Jim Keeney, chief medical Officer for Dignity Saint Mary
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Speaker 2: Medical Center in Long Beach. Jim is also donating a
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Speaker 2: flesh eating bacteria just to watch it happen for our
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Speaker 2: people here at KFI that can tune in on TV.
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Speaker 1: Good Morning Jim, Good morning Bill.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we've got a couple of things to talk about. Hey,
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Speaker 2: here's something that is not on our list, and that
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Speaker 2: is the study that just came out that shows that
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Speaker 2: turkey that is full of nitrates, processed turkey, nitrates, preservatives,
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Speaker 2: all kinds of chemicals.
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Speaker 1: Are actually better for you than fresh turkey. Is that true?
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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, just how do we do it?
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Speaker 3: Sounds like a study you made up?
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Speaker 1: Oh really? Okay. The bird flu.
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Speaker 2: There's a Washington resident who died of complications from it,
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Speaker 2: and this strain has never been reported before in humans.
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Speaker 1: How scary is that? For real?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean this is the standard scary of influenza,
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Speaker 3: which is that you know it has type influenza has
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Speaker 3: two different proteins on it H and the end. And
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Speaker 3: so we have H one N one H one N
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Speaker 3: two in every combination in between all the way and
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Speaker 3: the bird This bird flu is now H five and five.
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Speaker 3: So if you know in humans. We have not seen
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Speaker 3: that in our bodies before. We would not necessarily have
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Speaker 3: any natural immunity to it, and it could have be
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Speaker 3: a pretty disastrous flu if it was able to be
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Speaker 3: transmitted from human to human. Now, this individual had a
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Speaker 3: flock of birds, domesticated birds in his backyard, some kind.
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether they were chickens or turkeys or
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Speaker 3: other kind of birds, but the assumption is that he
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Speaker 3: caught them from his own birds. This was a bird
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Speaker 3: to human transition transmission, and so that's less likely to occur,
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Speaker 3: you know, widespread, and so as long as it's not
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Speaker 3: human to human, we're okay.
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Speaker 1: Still.
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Speaker 2: Hey, first of all, the question is are there an
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Speaker 2: unlimited number of flus out there and most of them
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Speaker 2: we don't even know they're around because people have not
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Speaker 2: gotten them or animals have not gotten them. And if
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Speaker 2: we're talking about a bird to human transfer and then
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Speaker 2: human to human of this flu of which we've never
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Speaker 2: heard of before, are we talking about pandemic level problems? Right?
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Speaker 3: That's what the surveillance is all about, is that you know,
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Speaker 3: the flu occurs in nature and animals, and there are
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Speaker 3: animals that are vectors that can give it to humans,
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Speaker 3: and in this case, it looks like that's what happened
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Speaker 3: in animal gave it to a human. Now, animally human
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Speaker 3: spread is one thing we have really close contact, which
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Speaker 3: is unusual for us nowadays in modern society. So it's
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Speaker 3: when it switches to human human transmission that suddenly we
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Speaker 3: pay attention. There's probably flus out there that we're unaware
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Speaker 3: of the animals, but when humans get sick, we pretty
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Speaker 3: frequently will test for it, and then they end up
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Speaker 3: with these newer flues testing doing genetic testing, which gives
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Speaker 3: us almost a genetic fingerprint for exactly what it is.
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Speaker 3: And nowadays it's hard for a new flu to hide
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Speaker 3: in plain sight anymore.
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Speaker 2: Is there a number of flus that we know about
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Speaker 2: that are running around? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: There are, there are. That's what the flu shot is
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Speaker 3: every year. Right, we look at what the flues are
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Speaker 3: that are running around in the southern hemisphere and we
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Speaker 3: predict that those might be the ones in the northern hemisphere,
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Speaker 3: and we pick each category like the H one, N one,
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Speaker 3: H two and three, and there's there's a predominant flu
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Speaker 3: in each of those H and N categories for the
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Speaker 3: A vaccine, and then there's a B Influenza B that
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Speaker 3: there's a vaccine for too as well.
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Speaker 2: And the question is before we take a break is
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Speaker 2: and I think we went off on a track where
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Speaker 2: I misspoke and I did a question that I did wrongly,
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Speaker 2: and that is do they know that the number of
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Speaker 2: flu variants out there? And I know they have to guess,
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Speaker 2: but you know, are there thousands? Are there hundreds variants
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Speaker 2: that we know about?
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Speaker 3: No, No, there's there's a much smaller number of those
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Speaker 3: couple handfuls of different flu variants. And that's the ones
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Speaker 3: that okay, we can predict. There's variants of you know,
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Speaker 3: H two, N three, and then that they predict which
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Speaker 3: variant of that is most likely to be predominant, and
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Speaker 3: that way they get the closest match to the immunity.
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Speaker 2: Okay, real quickly, before we dive into the factor that
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Speaker 2: can cause Parkinson's and that is a flu shot which
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Speaker 2: I get every year. How often are they guess right?
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Speaker 2: And what does that mean? Guess right? The percentage of efficacy?
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what I was going to say to me.
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Speaker 3: It's more important it's how effective it is. And the
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Speaker 3: average year we're running about fifty percent effective. Like that
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Speaker 3: you know, people think medications and vaccines and all that
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Speaker 3: are supposed to be one hundred percent effective and they
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Speaker 3: never are. So typically the flu is flu vaccine is
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Speaker 3: fifty percent effective. But if an average year is like
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Speaker 3: close to ten percent of the population gets the flu,
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Speaker 3: that would be a big year. But it's close to that.
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Speaker 3: And we have three hundred million Americans. That's thirty million
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Speaker 3: people get the flu. If you can cut that in half,
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Speaker 3: you say fifteen million people getting the flu. So it's
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Speaker 3: significant and it's you know, from a population health standpoint,
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Speaker 3: it's worth doing.
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Speaker 2: Okay, moving over to what is a warning about an
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Speaker 2: overlooks factor? Well, and overlook factor they can cause Parkinson's.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that for a moment. That is scary
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Speaker 2: because Parkinson's scar is a crop out of everybody.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, first of all, Parkinson's a movement disorder, right,
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Speaker 3: So it's an area of the brain called the substantia niagra.
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Speaker 3: It's in the basal ganglia, which is kind of in
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Speaker 3: your midbrain, and they put all the important stuff in
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Speaker 3: the middle of your brain, the furthest from the outside
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Speaker 3: because it's the most protected. So where you breathe, where
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Speaker 3: your heart beats and where you move is all in
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Speaker 3: the center of your brain. And when this goes bad,
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Speaker 3: basically it makes it difficult to have normal movements. And
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Speaker 3: we know dopamine is something that stimulates like, you know,
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Speaker 3: motivation and positiveness. Right, it's a We know that dopamine
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Speaker 3: is released when you're scrolling the internet and things like that,
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Speaker 3: when you're doing things you enjoy. But it also is
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Speaker 3: kind of motor oil for movements, right, So these nerves
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Speaker 3: are dopamine energic nerves that smooth out your movements and
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Speaker 3: create normal movements. So when people get Parkinson's, that's all
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Speaker 3: messed up. Now bear with me on this one. It starts,
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Speaker 3: we believe it may start in your gut because your
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Speaker 3: gut has like many brain cells in it. They really
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Speaker 3: extend all the way up to the brain along the
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Speaker 3: vagus nerve. And in those cells we first start seeing
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Speaker 3: this protein that was recently discovered, the alpha sin protein.
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Speaker 3: And when that thing is misshapen and misfolded, we notice
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Speaker 3: that it doesn't work right. It comes up the system
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Speaker 3: and it can travel up those gut nerves into the brain. Well,
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Speaker 3: now it comes microplastics and micro and nanoplastics. When we
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Speaker 3: dissect human brains, we find that in their brains, and
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Speaker 3: we find it in people with Parkinson's. There's no evidence
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Speaker 3: yet that it causes Parkinson's, but a study just came out.
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Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about really here. Study and mouse
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Speaker 3: and my who are prone to getting Parkinson's disease. When
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Speaker 3: they feed them microplastics, the Parkinson's gets much worse. And
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Speaker 3: they believe it's along that whole gut liver brain kind
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Speaker 3: of pathway that we are aware of now that connects
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Speaker 3: your gut to your brain.
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Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, now that is I guess that's important news.
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Speaker 2: Although the thought of getting Parkinson's. Of course, my mother
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Speaker 2: had Parkinson's, and it is not pleasant to be around
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Speaker 2: the people who do. It's even more unpleasant to actually
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Speaker 2: have it. Jim is always thank you. We'll talk next
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Speaker 2: week also tomorrow. Enjoy your Thanksgiving. I hope you eat well.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, for everybody out there on behalf
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Speaker 2: of Jim and I. If you get food poisoning, that's
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Speaker 2: simply the cost of doing business. And Neil is here
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Speaker 2: tomorrow morning on our show. It'll be his show tomorrow Thanksgiving,
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Speaker 2: which he does every Thanksgiving from six to nine.
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Speaker 1: I think wake Up Call is still happen, uh, is
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Speaker 1: it not? Okay? Amy and Will Will's not.
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Speaker 2: Even so it'll be Amy with wake up Call in
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Speaker 2: the morning, and we're gonna all eat a lot of turkey,
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Speaker 2: right absolutely, I'm going I'm going to a deli. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to a deli. It's just easier.
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Speaker 1: Are you gonna have turkey though at the deli?
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Speaker 2: Are you? I don't know, I don't I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't think I may have turkey pastrami. It does, okay?
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Speaker 2: All kinds of good advice with Neil tomorrow for Thanksgiving
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