Latest / The Breakfast Club / Chloe Bailey Talks New Album "In Pieces", The Haters, Beyoncè + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Morning, everybody.
- 0:01Speaker 2: It's DJ Envy, Charlemagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 3: We got our Nyla hanging with us this morning.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yes, and we have a special guest who Charlemagne claims
- 0:12Speaker 2: as a family. And we say this all the time
- 0:16Speaker 2: because when we announced that your album came out, he
- 0:18Speaker 2: didn't even know your album came out.
- 0:19Speaker 3: And I forced him not true, but.
- 0:23Speaker 1: That's not true. And we played the song.
- 0:27Speaker 4: I played the Missy record and Chris Brown record that morning,
- 0:31Speaker 4: but I had.
- 0:32Speaker 3: To make him download the recless. He didn't even know.
- 0:34Speaker 1: That's not true.
- 0:34Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Now, that's right. You said you bought it, right, We
- 0:37Speaker 1: don't download, but you said you bought it. Listen in
- 0:40Speaker 1: pieces is out right now? Okay? Did you buy it
- 0:42Speaker 1: all right?
- 0:42Speaker 4: Did all your people's online complaining making noise by it?
- 0:46Speaker 3: I streamed it?
- 0:47Speaker 1: Okay?
- 0:49Speaker 5: I feel great. I'm so happy. Like the past two days,
- 0:52Speaker 5: I've been feeling like great, to be honest, the week
- 0:56Speaker 5: and a half, like before, it was like a little rocky,
- 0:58Speaker 5: but tour kind of been getting me out the funk
- 1:00Speaker 5: because the shows have been amazing. They've all been sold
- 1:02Speaker 5: out and everyone's singing every lyric to every song. So
- 1:05Speaker 5: I'm like, the love is real and real life. So
- 1:08Speaker 5: I've been feeling good.
- 1:09Speaker 1: Why were you in a funk? I know you wasn't
- 1:10Speaker 1: letting these digital dickheads on the internet GA.
- 1:13Speaker 5: I mean like you're like, we're all human, so of
- 1:15Speaker 5: course some things are going to bother you. And I
- 1:18Speaker 5: think when you put so much time and effort into
- 1:21Speaker 5: the art of everything, and it's really a conceptual album.
- 1:24Speaker 5: My executive produced it. I produced on twelve out of
- 1:27Speaker 5: the fourteen songs on there. I had a lot of incredible,
- 1:30Speaker 5: like amazing talent on the project. So I was just like,
- 1:34Speaker 5: it's okay, come at me, bro, So I'm ready for
- 1:36Speaker 5: what's next, to be honest.
- 1:37Speaker 1: What's the title mean? In Pieces?
- 1:39Speaker 5: Yes, So in Pieces it's kind of like a double entendre.
- 1:42Speaker 5: So in Pieces represents the pieces of my heart that
- 1:46Speaker 5: has been left broken from live situations, relationships, things like
- 1:50Speaker 5: that people seven you in the back. And then it
- 1:52Speaker 5: also means what's left in Pieces is the box that
- 1:55Speaker 5: people try to put me in on who they think
- 1:57Speaker 5: Chloe is, and you know, I just have to speak
- 2:01Speaker 5: for myself and break through it. So that's what it means.
- 2:04Speaker 5: It's like the simp side and then the place of powers.
- 2:06Speaker 2: It has to be difficult, yeah, because people who seen
- 2:09Speaker 2: you grow up, so it's like we've seen you as
- 2:11Speaker 2: this young girl, so now when you break it out
- 2:13Speaker 2: into your own, it has to be difficult for your fans.
- 2:15Speaker 5: I guess right, I mean maybe maybe not. I'm really
- 2:20Speaker 5: proud of my sister and I because we've been branching
- 2:23Speaker 5: out on our own successfully and people are getting to
- 2:25Speaker 5: like know who we are individually. And I'm so blessed
- 2:28Speaker 5: that I grew up with her in life so we
- 2:31Speaker 5: could go through everything together, and it came to a
- 2:34Speaker 5: point where we were so dependent on one another, like
- 2:36Speaker 5: we were Siamese twins. So what forced us apart was
- 2:39Speaker 5: her going to London to shoot Little Mermaid and you know,
- 2:41Speaker 5: me being in la and especially with the pandemic the
- 2:44Speaker 5: travel restrictions going to another country was crazy. So as
- 2:47Speaker 5: stressful as it was for the both of us, we
- 2:49Speaker 5: both had separation anxiety. It like forced us to figure out, Okay,
- 2:52Speaker 5: who's Chloe, who's Hollie. So now when we come back together,
- 2:56Speaker 5: it's going to be even stronger because now we also
- 2:59Speaker 5: have a great sense.
- 2:59Speaker 6: Of I like that she said that the love is
- 3:03Speaker 6: real in real life.
- 3:04Speaker 7: Yeah, and I know, like online you put like a
- 3:06Speaker 7: lot of the ugly comments that people say about you online,
- 3:09Speaker 7: and one of your performance piece.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Is that for every show, or that that's.
- 3:12Speaker 5: For every show. The idea popped in my head like
- 3:15Speaker 5: thirty minutes before the first opening show in Chicago, and
- 3:20Speaker 5: I was just like, it's over the interlude of I'm
- 3:22Speaker 5: Not Worried. It's like an a cappella arrangement of me
- 3:26Speaker 5: singing it, and I was like, you know what, I'm
- 3:28Speaker 5: gonna put that there because I'm not really worried about
- 3:30Speaker 5: what people have to say. You know, it's just another
- 3:32Speaker 5: notch on my belt.
- 3:33Speaker 4: So did y'all recognize the growth in each other? You
- 3:36Speaker 4: and Holly, Like, when y'all finally did get back together,
- 3:38Speaker 4: did she see growth in you?
- 3:39Speaker 1: Did you see growl friend?
- 3:40Speaker 5: Yes, the crazy thing is growing up. It was me
- 3:43Speaker 5: who was afraid to speak up, so like she would
- 3:45Speaker 5: be the one speaking up for me, and like she's
- 3:47Speaker 5: the aries. Yes, she's the like don't mess with her,
- 3:51Speaker 5: and it would always be me like, oh my gosh,
- 3:53Speaker 5: I like I don't like confrontation things like that. And
- 3:56Speaker 5: so because of that. I had to force myself to
- 4:00Speaker 5: speak up for myself because I didn't have my sister
- 4:03Speaker 5: right there doing it for me. So now I'm very
- 4:06Speaker 5: independent and very vocal and I say what I mean
- 4:10Speaker 5: and I mean what I say, and she's recognized that.
- 4:13Speaker 5: She's like, well, you're like a completely different person. I'm
- 4:16Speaker 5: so proud of her because she's confident in who she
- 4:19Speaker 5: is as an individual as well. Like we both were
- 4:21Speaker 5: missing that and now we both found it.
- 4:23Speaker 4: So it's like we're stronger, be dangerous though, because you
- 4:26Speaker 4: are cancer, you know, saying, so you be in your shell,
- 4:29Speaker 4: but boy when you come out that shell.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Yeah, And I wass.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Did that change because you missed your sister? Was it
- 4:36Speaker 2: a relationship that made you change? It was writ in
- 4:38Speaker 2: your music that made you change?
- 4:39Speaker 3: What was that change?
- 4:40Speaker 5: That's a great question. I think it was a combination
- 4:43Speaker 5: of everything. I think it got to a point where
- 4:45Speaker 5: I realized, if I don't fight for myself, then I'm
- 4:49Speaker 5: just gonna be left in the dust. And if I
- 4:50Speaker 5: don't speak up for what I want and speak up
- 4:52Speaker 5: for who I am as a human being, then like
- 4:55Speaker 5: it's just going to fall on deaf ears and clothes
- 4:57Speaker 5: mouths don't get fed. So you know, throughout the music,
- 5:01Speaker 5: I was finding my strength because I was saying things
- 5:03Speaker 5: that I was afraid to say or speak up to
- 5:05Speaker 5: certain individuals. And then from there it just grew. From that,
- 5:08Speaker 5: it was like it just kept growing and growing and
- 5:11Speaker 5: now it can't really stop.
- 5:14Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:15Speaker 6: I feel like growing up as women were taught to
- 5:18Speaker 6: like not be so vocal.
- 5:19Speaker 7: So now that you are being vocal, do you feel
- 5:22Speaker 7: like you're being a bitch or like, do you feel
- 5:23Speaker 7: like like you have to turn on a new version
- 5:26Speaker 7: of yourself?
- 5:26Speaker 5: Absolutely not. There's it's not about what you say but
- 5:30Speaker 5: how you say it. You can command a room without
- 5:32Speaker 5: having to bark so loud, and as long as you
- 5:35Speaker 5: believe in what you're saying and you don't change in
- 5:38Speaker 5: that for anybody, people will respect you because at a
- 5:41Speaker 5: certain point they know they can't ignore it.
- 5:43Speaker 1: You know.
- 5:43Speaker 4: Yeh was pray Away based on a true story, Oh
- 5:49Speaker 4: Nigga from Nigga.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Yes, So I wrote that song with my girl Jossy,
- 5:54Speaker 5: and I kept seeing her like three four times that
- 5:57Speaker 5: week at every event, And I'm all about signs, Like
- 5:59Speaker 5: I I don't feel there are any coincidences in life
- 6:02Speaker 5: and I was like, so the final place I saw
- 6:04Speaker 5: her sign that you're crazy, but I was like okay.
- 6:13Speaker 5: So we passed each other going to the ladies room
- 6:16Speaker 5: at the studio and I was like, I got back
- 6:19Speaker 5: in my session. I said wait, So I texted her.
- 6:22Speaker 5: I was like, can you come in here? And she
- 6:23Speaker 5: played me a few demos and it was the skeleton
- 6:25Speaker 5: of Pray It Away. It was originally called Church, and
- 6:29Speaker 5: I was like, I'm in love with this because I
- 6:31Speaker 5: loved how open it was. It was completely raw and honest,
- 6:34Speaker 5: and for me, I've always learned to just be the
- 6:39Speaker 5: bigger person and turn the other cheek. And it's like
- 6:42Speaker 5: sometimes you do want to get down and dirty and
- 6:45Speaker 5: get on that person same level, but I will never
- 6:47Speaker 5: give anyone that power over me. So it's like, you know,
- 6:49Speaker 5: I'm gonna pray it away. So it was quite easy
- 6:51Speaker 5: to finish out the song because there has been people
- 6:54Speaker 5: who have tried me and I love it. I really did.
- 6:59Speaker 4: When the last time you really wanted a person hurt,
- 7:00Speaker 4: because that's what the song, That's what the song is about.
- 7:03Speaker 1: You want a person hurt, but didn't having to pray
- 7:04Speaker 1: it away.
- 7:05Speaker 5: You know, I think I've been growing. I think the
- 7:08Speaker 5: last time I felt like I wanted somebody to hurt
- 7:11Speaker 5: maybe five days ago.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Yeah, five days?
- 7:19Speaker 5: How long? Yeah?
- 7:22Speaker 3: What was the situation?
- 7:24Speaker 5: What was the situation? There are several Jesus. Yeah, but
- 7:28Speaker 5: I prayed away hurt though you.
- 7:30Speaker 6: Don't really mean hurt. You just mean like you want
- 7:32Speaker 6: them to feel how you feel.
- 7:33Speaker 5: Yes, like, But the thing is, we never have to
- 7:36Speaker 5: do the work like karma speaks for itself, you know.
- 7:40Speaker 5: So never give someone power to get you out of
- 7:43Speaker 5: your characters.
- 7:43Speaker 7: And you've never been like or you don't believe in
- 7:46Speaker 7: like Spike, like I gotta get my get back.
- 7:48Speaker 5: I don't because I don't want it to come back
- 7:50Speaker 5: to me in turn. So I just let them dig
- 7:53Speaker 5: themselves in a ditch.
- 7:54Speaker 1: You know. Wait a minute, Wait a minute.
- 7:57Speaker 4: There's a record on the album that pisses me off,
- 7:59Speaker 4: and it's opposite cheat Back.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Pissed me off.
- 8:06Speaker 5: So why is it? Why does it piss you off?
- 8:10Speaker 7: That's cruel standard that okay, So let me ask you this.
- 8:18Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just I'm gonna swap the rolls, so say not.
- 8:22Speaker 5: This is hypothetically speaking an alternate universe. You're with someone,
- 8:26Speaker 5: She continues, to cheat time and time again because you
- 8:29Speaker 5: love her so much and she keeps saying she's going
- 8:31Speaker 5: to change. You stay. But at a certain point, aren't
- 8:33Speaker 5: you gonna want to get something back so you don't
- 8:35Speaker 5: feel like a yes, yes, okay.
- 8:40Speaker 1: I'll just break up with her, though, will.
- 8:42Speaker 6: You say okay?
- 8:47Speaker 5: See my point?
- 8:48Speaker 2: But have you ever been in that situation where you
- 8:50Speaker 2: had to get your You say it's not revenge, but
- 8:52Speaker 2: revenge that way, because that's revenge.
- 8:56Speaker 5: So I have been cheated on a few times, and
- 8:58Speaker 5: it's like, in my head, I feel like I got
- 9:01Speaker 5: them back after the fact, after the relationship, and I'm like, hot,
- 9:05Speaker 5: you'll never know. It's just for like a little internal damn.
- 9:09Speaker 3: How did you kiss the person cheating?
- 9:12Speaker 1: You said a couple of times? Jesus Christ.
- 9:14Speaker 5: The two times I've been cheated on social media? Of course,
- 9:18Speaker 5: social media and social media evidence. There was a phone. No,
- 9:23Speaker 5: I've never gone through anyone's phone, Well.
- 9:25Speaker 6: How'd you okay?
- 9:26Speaker 5: What on social media?
- 9:27Speaker 6: Like it was such and such.
- 9:30Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, it was multiple things on social
- 9:32Speaker 5: media and then evidence like panties and hair ties.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Question when you asked him, did he reply yes, ma'am?
- 9:41Speaker 5: No, they try to deflect.
- 9:44Speaker 6: Damn, that's my sister's or something. Did they lie and like,
- 9:48Speaker 6: that's my sisters and my cousins?
- 9:50Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how it goes.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Cousins.
- 9:55Speaker 3: They really said that was his sisters.
- 9:57Speaker 7: And cousins A little something around but not another woman.
- 10:01Speaker 3: Did you break up immediately or did you feel I did.
- 10:05Speaker 6: Good for you?
- 10:05Speaker 5: And I block because we're cancers so I don't want
- 10:09Speaker 5: to see my phone blowing up. I don't want to
- 10:11Speaker 5: see loving long text messages because I don't want to
- 10:14Speaker 5: be a simp and crawl back.
- 10:16Speaker 1: When you do, it's dirty, it's a rap.
- 10:17Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 10:18Speaker 6: Do you double double back at all?
- 10:20Speaker 5: I did one time and I was like, nope, it
- 10:24Speaker 5: ended for a reason.
- 10:25Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Yeah, answer this question. What does cheating back actually accomplished? Lady?
- 10:28Speaker 4: Seriously, when y'all really think about it, I.
- 10:32Speaker 5: Could flip it right back. What does cheating in the
- 10:34Speaker 5: first place accomplished?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Jesus Christ?
- 10:36Speaker 5: Does it just build up your esteem and ego?
- 10:39Speaker 1: Damn?
- 10:41Speaker 5: It? Is it just because it feels good in that moment?
- 10:45Speaker 5: Like I feel like for women sex is about love
- 10:47Speaker 5: and like the connection, and for men, I do feel
- 10:49Speaker 5: like it's not as like connection based as it is
- 10:51Speaker 5: for us. But at the same time, when you say
- 10:53Speaker 5: you love and respect someone, you can't disrespect them publicly
- 10:57Speaker 5: by like you know.
- 10:59Speaker 6: And even spite like get back sex? Like is that
- 11:02Speaker 6: a spite? The women don't really want to do it.
- 11:04Speaker 5: We're really just.
- 11:05Speaker 7: Doing it because we're so angry because the after feeling
- 11:08Speaker 7: of the guy you did is like, what.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Is y'all talking about sex?
- 11:12Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like this.
- 11:13Speaker 2: Conversation right, I'm over there getting.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Upset, going dog, this is being hand in here just
- 11:24Speaker 1: before we get back to music.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Was that what changed you and make you more outspoken?
- 11:27Speaker 2: Because you talked about outspoken because in those situations you
- 11:30Speaker 2: now be quiet. You have to be outspoken to say
- 11:33Speaker 2: your thoughts.
- 11:33Speaker 5: That wasn't what changed me. It was other things that
- 11:35Speaker 5: didn't have to deal with a man. And I'm happy
- 11:40Speaker 5: to say that I'm not phased or the way that
- 11:42Speaker 5: I love or go into relationships and stuff isn't phased
- 11:45Speaker 5: because of how someone else has done me wrong in
- 11:47Speaker 5: the past, because that's a them problem, not a me problem.
- 11:50Speaker 5: And I think a lot of times us as women,
- 11:52Speaker 5: when something like that happens to us, the first thing
- 11:54Speaker 5: we think is what was it that I did. Was
- 11:58Speaker 5: it was I wrong? Is there something I could have
- 11:59Speaker 5: done better? Things like that? But no, that was like
- 12:03Speaker 5: in the middle to the end kind of stage of it.
- 12:07Speaker 5: I had COVID actually, and Toron, who I wrote Have
- 12:10Speaker 5: Mercy With and Told You with Missy Elliott, he sent
- 12:13Speaker 5: it to me. It was just the guitar and his vocal.
- 12:14Speaker 5: It was the first two verses in the hook, and
- 12:17Speaker 5: I was just getting out of relationship and I was
- 12:20Speaker 5: like depressed and miserable. I had COVID in my apartment
- 12:24Speaker 5: and I was getting cheated on. I was like, you
- 12:26Speaker 5: know what, So I immediately I set up my stuff
- 12:29Speaker 5: in my home studio and I recorded it and it
- 12:32Speaker 5: just was so freeing. It was really great.
- 12:34Speaker 1: What if he used COVID as an excuse? He was like,
- 12:36Speaker 1: I wanted to be with you, but you had COVID,
- 12:37Speaker 1: So I ended up shut.
- 12:39Speaker 5: Oh no, But it was like this, you know, like
- 12:41Speaker 5: when it's never like one thing. So it was like
- 12:43Speaker 5: I found out then like the week later, I had COVID.
- 12:46Speaker 5: So it was like you know, the second third week,
- 12:49Speaker 5: when you're like not talking and getting over it, it's like, oh,
- 12:53Speaker 5: but that's why I'm happy I have music to kind
- 12:55Speaker 5: of really put my soul into. And I'm so damn
- 12:58Speaker 5: happy Future hopped on the record, Like you.
- 13:01Speaker 1: Got the most toxic person this.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Yeah, but even like his melodies and he's just really
- 13:07Speaker 5: brilliant and you know, in terms of music, and I
- 13:10Speaker 5: was happy that he got to speak up for the
- 13:12Speaker 5: fellas in it.
- 13:12Speaker 1: It's got a country feel to it almost.
- 13:14Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 13:14Speaker 5: It kind of reminds me of like How to Love
- 13:16Speaker 5: with Little Wayne, and it reminds me of four or
- 13:18Speaker 5: five Seconds with Paul McCartney and Kanyet. That's why I
- 13:20Speaker 5: loved it. Thank you. I wanted to keep a shit.
- 13:22Speaker 3: One more thing about that, I want to go too.
- 13:24Speaker 2: So does that mean the men that you do understand
- 13:27Speaker 2: that you're going to put their stuff in this's all matter?
- 13:31Speaker 5: Yeah, it's ago. The thing about the thing about me though,
- 13:35Speaker 5: is I'll never say names. I don't kiss and tell.
- 13:37Speaker 5: I don't want them to put my business in the streets.
- 13:39Speaker 5: And I kind of say to myself, I've been single
- 13:41Speaker 5: for almost a year now, and I'm like, I'm open
- 13:44Speaker 5: to whatever God has for me, but I'm not like
- 13:46Speaker 5: hunting down for it. I'm like, whatever happens happens.
- 13:50Speaker 4: How can you trust guys and not to put your
- 13:51Speaker 4: business out there though because you are Chloe Bailey like
- 13:53Speaker 4: you to.
- 13:53Speaker 5: Talk of the town. No you should. Yeah. I think
- 13:59Speaker 5: it's all about having discernment, like when you share your
- 14:02Speaker 5: energy with the specific individual, like I try to pick
- 14:06Speaker 5: knowing they have a good heart and they're not dumb.
- 14:10Speaker 4: So any what you said on Cheapback on Cheapbacks that
- 14:12Speaker 4: you say you're gonna find you a thug, that's basically
- 14:15Speaker 4: what you described.
- 14:16Speaker 1: He said you're gonna find you a hood dude with
- 14:18Speaker 1: tats and all types of stuff. The cheat backs.
- 14:20Speaker 6: Is that what you're into?
- 14:21Speaker 5: Okay? So the thing is, I don't really know what
- 14:24Speaker 5: I'm into. I don't discriminate, Okay, you know, I've like
- 14:28Speaker 5: the really sweet nerds, not about the look like the thug.
- 14:31Speaker 5: I'm from Atlanta, So it's just like whoever can stimulate
- 14:35Speaker 5: my mind, Like, what can you teach me? Like, put
- 14:38Speaker 5: me on game, teach me new words? Because I'm quite intelligent.
- 14:41Speaker 5: I like this is where I get like, oh, so
- 14:43Speaker 5: it really doesn't matter how you look. I mean it
- 14:45Speaker 5: does because I don't want to wake up and be scared. However,
- 14:50Speaker 5: it's about It's about it's about the spirits.
- 14:54Speaker 4: First, my last question about that record because I think
- 14:58Speaker 4: Future Think the Future said, if you said you can
- 15:00Speaker 4: find yourself fucking on someone else, do y'all really believe that?
- 15:04Speaker 5: Oh? So when I got the verse in, I felt
- 15:06Speaker 5: that in my spirit because he was like, okay, so
- 15:09Speaker 5: you finally know who you are as an individual because
- 15:11Speaker 5: you had sex with another man and how like passive
- 15:15Speaker 5: aggressive and so like? Oh is that statement? That line's
- 15:19Speaker 5: my favorite? The I should have put cameras and the
- 15:22Speaker 5: crib line is my favorite.
- 15:26Speaker 6: Break that bar down, break that bar.
- 15:29Speaker 4: I can't remember the exact bar is, but he said
- 15:30Speaker 4: you can find yourself fucking on someone else.
- 15:32Speaker 5: Yeah he said, he goes shot. He finally found herself
- 15:35Speaker 5: fucking on someone else.
- 15:38Speaker 6: But he found herself yes, right? Or he does?
- 15:42Speaker 4: Yes?
- 15:42Speaker 5: Oh he does.
- 15:43Speaker 3: Yes.
- 15:43Speaker 5: I don't like that, but like I the reason because
- 15:48Speaker 5: I'm a pretty fair person. It's all about perspective. The
- 15:50Speaker 5: reason why I love that line so much is because
- 15:53Speaker 5: our power doesn't come from opening ourselves up to another individual.
- 15:57Speaker 5: Our power comes from internal and self love. So it's
- 16:00Speaker 5: petty as I am being on the song and it's like, yeah,
- 16:02Speaker 5: I want to hurt you just as much as you
- 16:03Speaker 5: hurt me. Even when I do that, will it make
- 16:05Speaker 5: me feel better at the end of the day. And
- 16:06Speaker 5: that's why I really love that line, because the only
- 16:09Speaker 5: thing you accomplished was getting back at him, But you
- 16:11Speaker 5: still haven't found yourself. You're still insecure and crime questioning
- 16:14Speaker 5: why am I not good enough? So I like that.
- 16:17Speaker 5: That's why I love that line because it was like
- 16:19Speaker 5: I got to read the fellows and he got to
- 16:21Speaker 5: read the ladies.
- 16:22Speaker 3: Who do you talk to when you're going through all
- 16:23Speaker 3: this stuff?
- 16:26Speaker 5: My god, Mom, I call her. I ran me Her
- 16:28Speaker 5: and Holly have a whole group chat man.
- 16:32Speaker 3: God Mama never wanted to pull up on some of
- 16:33Speaker 3: these dudes.
- 16:34Speaker 5: Oh she has wanted to. She's from the Caribbean, so
- 16:37Speaker 5: she's gangster. I love that.
- 16:39Speaker 1: Ye of your favorite records is Body Doo right now?
- 16:41Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 16:42Speaker 7: My favorite one is body Dude. I feel like that
- 16:44Speaker 7: should have been the single like that one. That's a
- 16:47Speaker 7: good especially that the weather's getting warm.
- 16:49Speaker 5: And stuff like that.
- 16:49Speaker 6: But why did you start the record like that?
- 16:52Speaker 5: Why do you.
- 16:53Speaker 6: Ever wonder who else is fucking your man?
- 16:55Speaker 7: Yes?
- 16:56Speaker 5: Okay, so I wrote Body Doo after I found the panties. Ah,
- 17:00Speaker 5: And it's like, you know when someone's not good for you,
- 17:04Speaker 5: but there's something within you that just misses them. You
- 17:07Speaker 5: miss their touch, you miss like the connection that you have.
- 17:10Speaker 5: So what I really I wrote that song in five
- 17:13Speaker 5: minutes because I was quite angry. But I love the
- 17:14Speaker 5: juxtaposition of how fun it sounds like it's just shaking ass,
- 17:17Speaker 5: but it's quite toxic and sad. And it's like, I
- 17:21Speaker 5: can't trust you as far as I can throw you.
- 17:24Speaker 5: I can't trust what you tell me, but I can
- 17:25Speaker 5: trust what that body doing because you're right in front
- 17:27Speaker 5: of me. Language, Yes, like what goes on behind closed doors?
- 17:36Speaker 5: I think they were they were they were nice. I
- 17:41Speaker 5: never hers. I never fault the other woman because I'm
- 17:44Speaker 5: not in a relationship with her. I didn't do that.
- 17:47Speaker 5: I didn't touch your smell.
- 17:48Speaker 3: They're not.
- 17:50Speaker 1: Kill them.
- 17:51Speaker 5: I don't know. I didn't. I wasn't paying attention. I
- 17:53Speaker 5: like that you said that.
- 17:54Speaker 7: I've heard a few men say, like, why why do
- 17:58Speaker 7: they never be mad at the woman for knowing I
- 18:01Speaker 7: have a girl and they're doing X Y?
- 18:02Speaker 6: Because like, and I don't agree with that sentiment.
- 18:05Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I don't like how society has taught us
- 18:09Speaker 5: as women to compete with each other. Like if you
- 18:12Speaker 5: flip it again, if two dudes find out about each other,
- 18:16Speaker 5: they're not calling each other going back and forth. Oh
- 18:19Speaker 5: so let's compare stories, right, they're just moving on because
- 18:22Speaker 5: they're not you. Yeah, the immature ones.
- 18:27Speaker 2: But I don't think no dude's gonna leave a sock
- 18:29Speaker 2: and be like I want this other dude to find
- 18:30Speaker 2: my sock or whatever.
- 18:31Speaker 5: Men are petty.
- 18:33Speaker 7: Men do a pull up, though, but definitely pull up.
- 18:37Speaker 7: Try to make it awkward or something like that.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Oh, that's never happened to me. Has that happened to you?
- 18:41Speaker 6: That hasn't happened to me?
- 18:42Speaker 7: But I watched it, friend, I'd be sitting there with
- 18:45Speaker 7: some popcorn.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Why did you say the panties were nice? Though? Like?
- 18:50Speaker 5: They were cute?
- 18:52Speaker 3: She left that there, she.
- 18:53Speaker 4: Wanted scaring the hell out your your woman, be like
- 18:55Speaker 4: I found some q PI. I found a q PA
- 18:57Speaker 4: of panties.
- 18:57Speaker 5: And I know they're not mine.
- 18:58Speaker 1: WHOA I walked out the door. Damn yeah was he
- 19:04Speaker 1: quick on his feet at least?
- 19:05Speaker 7: No?
- 19:07Speaker 3: What can you say? There's no answer to their mind?
- 19:09Speaker 5: The thing about women, you know.
- 19:12Speaker 1: That's a good one.
- 19:13Speaker 3: He said, they're mine. They are mine.
- 19:17Speaker 5: I've been like, you know, baby, do we need to
- 19:19Speaker 5: discuss some things?
- 19:20Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, I'm glad you have that conversation might be
- 19:24Speaker 4: easier than another one, you know what I'm saying. I'm
- 19:27Speaker 4: just saying, now, what was it like recording I want
- 19:30Speaker 4: you to feel me cry and make it look easy?
- 19:32Speaker 1: Because both those records felt very personal.
- 19:34Speaker 5: Oh yes, okay, so this album is quite toxic. To
- 19:40Speaker 5: be honest, feel me cry as emotional and sad as
- 19:44Speaker 5: it sounds, it's actually a quite sexually liberated song. You know.
- 19:49Speaker 5: It's double meanings to feel me cry and then with
- 19:52Speaker 5: make it would make it look easy. That one was
- 19:56Speaker 5: the most personal song in the record. I went into
- 20:00Speaker 5: the studio trying to just like forget what was going
- 20:04Speaker 5: on in my life, and I thought I was just
- 20:06Speaker 5: gonna make like some fun shit, and I heard these
- 20:11Speaker 5: simple chords and I just started writing. Usually I'll go
- 20:13Speaker 5: in the booth and freestyl a bunch of melodies and
- 20:15Speaker 5: then like Frankenstein it together. But I was just coming
- 20:18Speaker 5: up with the melodies and writing it at the same time.
- 20:20Speaker 5: And I was crying while I was writing it and
- 20:22Speaker 5: cutting in the booth, and even after listening to the
- 20:25Speaker 5: demo to hear if I wanted to fix anything, I
- 20:26Speaker 5: couldn't listen to it for a while because for the
- 20:29Speaker 5: people who know me personally, like it's a way deeper meaning,
- 20:33Speaker 5: like with hidden messages and what certain things mean within
- 20:36Speaker 5: the lyrics. So I'm really proud of myself for being
- 20:39Speaker 5: so open and honest. And I was like, I can't
- 20:41Speaker 5: create a conceptual album about heartbreak and being left in
- 20:44Speaker 5: pieces without being completely honest, Like, yeah, I can talk
- 20:47Speaker 5: about relationships and friends stabbing me in the back, but
- 20:50Speaker 5: it's like, why not talk or cover the other things?
- 20:53Speaker 5: Because mental health is real, Anxiety is real, Feeling like
- 20:56Speaker 5: you're not good enough is real, Feeling like you don't
- 20:58Speaker 5: want to be here anymore is real, and I've been
- 21:00Speaker 5: through all that. So I was like, if I'm saying
- 21:01Speaker 5: I'm going to be honest, and I should put it
- 21:03Speaker 5: within the music. And I didn't really care if it
- 21:06Speaker 5: sounded like a single or anything. I just wanted to
- 21:09Speaker 5: speak my truth. So that was the last song I
- 21:12Speaker 5: wrote that I put on the album.
- 21:14Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite records on the album because I
- 21:15Speaker 4: feel like, you know, thank you back in the day
- 21:17Speaker 4: when we was coming up, you would see child stars
- 21:19Speaker 4: and then you would all of a sudden see child
- 21:21Speaker 4: stars just lose.
- 21:22Speaker 1: It and go crazy.
- 21:23Speaker 4: But nobody ever documents that. I feel like you was documenting. Yeah,
- 21:27Speaker 4: that process in that record.
- 21:29Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's one thing I'll say about myself. I'm
- 21:32Speaker 5: a lot stronger than I ever thought I was. And
- 21:34Speaker 5: I'm really proud because of the shit that I've been through.
- 21:38Speaker 5: I have not let that change me or my character
- 21:40Speaker 5: as a human being. And you know, hurt people, hurt people,
- 21:43Speaker 5: and the cycle continues, and that's stopping. Like with me.
- 21:47Speaker 1: You know, have you gone to therapy?
- 21:48Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I have a therapist.
- 21:50Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 21:51Speaker 5: I think it's really important to be honest. Like we
- 21:54Speaker 5: go to the gym to exercise, we brush up on,
- 21:57Speaker 5: you know, our last extensions and our hair and go
- 21:59Speaker 5: into the barber. We should also do that internally.
- 22:01Speaker 2: Had a session last night and it helps so much. Absolutely,
- 22:05Speaker 2: Are you off the internet as much now? Because I
- 22:07Speaker 2: know I know you're on it.
- 22:08Speaker 1: You watch it.
- 22:09Speaker 2: So here's the thing, because I show your therapist says
- 22:11Speaker 2: that's the major thing.
- 22:12Speaker 1: You got to stay off a soli.
- 22:13Speaker 5: She does as well as my god, mom. She's trying
- 22:16Speaker 5: to still she sees me going on it. For me,
- 22:20Speaker 5: before it was easier to just like delete the apps
- 22:22Speaker 5: off my phone. But now I'm on tour, I'm trying
- 22:25Speaker 5: to promote my album. Like I can't just get off
- 22:28Speaker 5: of it like I want to. It's a part of
- 22:30Speaker 5: my business. So I have to like monitor myself because
- 22:33Speaker 5: you can get down the rabbit hole and things like that,
- 22:36Speaker 5: and I'm not going to sit up here and lie
- 22:37Speaker 5: and be like, oh yeah, like nothing bothers me. I'm great,
- 22:41Speaker 5: because that's a lie. But at the end of the day,
- 22:44Speaker 5: it's like you have to fall so you can get
- 22:48Speaker 5: back up and be stronger, and you dust your shoulders
- 22:50Speaker 5: off and you get back up. So for me, I
- 22:53Speaker 5: know the work that I put into everything. I know
- 22:55Speaker 5: the good energy and the good person that I am,
- 22:57Speaker 5: and that will just come back to me.
- 23:00Speaker 2: So sometimes you gotta say fuck it though, Like I know, yeah,
- 23:02Speaker 2: he doesn't have Twitter app on his phone.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I only read the first ten comments.
- 23:08Speaker 1: Those are the people that follow me.
- 23:09Speaker 5: Everything else own or the spam.
- 23:12Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't, but my wife does, and she reads
- 23:15Speaker 2: every comment and sometimes you know it, she said, it
- 23:18Speaker 2: doesn't affect it, but it has to all that. The
- 23:20Speaker 2: negative energy has to affect you in some type of way.
- 23:23Speaker 5: Absolutely, And what people were accusing me of like being
- 23:26Speaker 5: somebody that I'm not, I saw myself turning into that
- 23:32Speaker 5: just based off of what people would say. So every
- 23:35Speaker 5: day I'm living my life unapologetically, like I'm very out
- 23:39Speaker 5: there and bubbly. I've been that way since I was
- 23:40Speaker 5: a little girl. That has never ever changed. And when
- 23:44Speaker 5: I would see people say, oh, she does too much
- 23:46Speaker 5: or she over sexualizes herself, I'm gonna be twenty five
- 23:49Speaker 5: and like a couple of months, I'm a grown woman.
- 23:52Speaker 5: But I think because people grew up with my sister
- 23:54Speaker 5: and I when we were younger, they can't get past that.
- 23:56Speaker 5: But I'm like, you know what, I'm grateful that I'm
- 23:59Speaker 5: bree and whatever I'm stressing out about is not that
- 24:02Speaker 5: big of a deal.
- 24:03Speaker 4: So you said you became that, So what you started
- 24:06Speaker 4: being more overly sexual on purpose.
- 24:08Speaker 5: Or oh no, no, no, I was changing myself. I
- 24:10Speaker 5: was trying to cover up. I was trying to be
- 24:13Speaker 5: on stage like oh, because people are like, just have
- 24:15Speaker 5: the mic and sing, I was like, okay, but I
- 24:19Speaker 5: expressed with my body, you know, I grew up and
- 24:21Speaker 5: dance when I was younger, Like it's a form of expression.
- 24:24Speaker 5: I don't want to be predictable. I don't want to
- 24:26Speaker 5: be mediocre. I want to be extraordinary and be like
- 24:30Speaker 5: something you've never seen before.
- 24:31Speaker 4: And it's shocking, isn't It's strange because I remember the
- 24:33Speaker 4: first video that went viral. It was the busseet Chance
- 24:37Speaker 4: and everybody loved you. And then and then after a while,
- 24:39Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, now she's doing too much.
- 24:41Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the crazy thing. Like even before Sis and
- 24:44Speaker 5: I got our own Instagram pages, like that's what I
- 24:48Speaker 5: don't like when people try to pit family against each
- 24:50Speaker 5: other or compare sisters, like we're two complete individuals. We
- 24:54Speaker 5: will not be the same. And if you go back
- 24:56Speaker 5: and watch performances within the group, I was still the
- 24:59Speaker 5: same passion it moving.
- 25:01Speaker 6: Oh there's some funny video. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
- 25:07Speaker 5: And before people would like praise that, and it seemed
- 25:10Speaker 5: like once I found confidence and my power within that,
- 25:13Speaker 5: people would then try to weaponize it because no one
- 25:16Speaker 5: ever likes to see a black woman be confident within ourselves.
- 25:20Speaker 5: Once you claim that it's a problem.
- 25:23Speaker 4: Speaking of pitting people against each other, the Internet. The
- 25:25Speaker 4: internetfl like Beyonce should have done more in regard to
- 25:29Speaker 4: promoting your album.
- 25:31Speaker 1: What do you What do you have to say about that?
- 25:32Speaker 5: I love b and she supported my sis and I
- 25:35Speaker 5: since we had our little locks on YouTube, so it's
- 25:38Speaker 5: all love over here. I love her.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Do you feel like the label could have supported more
- 25:42Speaker 3: and push more?
- 25:43Speaker 4: Because that's what nobody talking about. Everybody want to blame Beyonce.
- 25:46Speaker 4: Where was the label at? Well?
- 25:49Speaker 5: I feel like it's all politics. But this is what
- 25:51Speaker 5: I'll say. God's plan is always greater than any plan
- 25:55Speaker 5: I could come up with. And I'll tell you why.
- 25:58Speaker 5: I shot Swarm and Praise this last. I didn't know
- 26:00Speaker 5: when those were coming out. Swarm, you know whether it's
- 26:05Speaker 5: negative or positive. Everybody had my name in their mouth
- 26:08Speaker 5: maybe a week or and a half or two before
- 26:10Speaker 5: my album. Then I was able to use because praise
- 26:14Speaker 5: this is with universal shout out to will Packarantina Gordon,
- 26:17Speaker 5: I love them. I got to do this whole full
- 26:19Speaker 5: press junket, go on all these morning shows, going all
- 26:22Speaker 5: these talk shows, Jimmy Fallon, Drew Barrymore, all these great
- 26:25Speaker 5: things to talk about the movie. And because God is
- 26:29Speaker 5: so good, I was able to finesse that and also
- 26:31Speaker 5: promote my album. So I am grateful that I have
- 26:35Speaker 5: multiple avenues and multiple ways that I can make money
- 26:40Speaker 5: and promote myself. And it's hard, but I love it.
- 26:44Speaker 5: And because of that, that shows me that what God
- 26:47Speaker 5: has for me will be for me. And I think
- 26:49Speaker 5: that's what we all have to realize when we're fighting
- 26:51Speaker 5: for ourselves and fighting for a dream, that no one
- 26:53Speaker 5: can stop what God has for you. So and now
- 26:56Speaker 5: I'm on to sold out tour. Like, as much as
- 26:59Speaker 5: everyone was talking to.
- 27:00Speaker 3: You know, how did that make you feel?
- 27:02Speaker 2: Because I know you're on You watch your social media,
- 27:05Speaker 2: so I'm sure you've seen you trending. And they were
- 27:06Speaker 2: saying Beyonce didn't post it, and Beyonce didn't you know,
- 27:09Speaker 2: everybody's into this list, Like if it's your birthday, nobody
- 27:11Speaker 2: post your birthday. Is the same thing they said that
- 27:12Speaker 2: Beyonce didn't post it, and people were talking about how
- 27:15Speaker 2: did that make you feel?
- 27:16Speaker 5: Of course, when people talk anything negative about me, it's
- 27:18Speaker 5: going to hurt my feelings, but I was like, at
- 27:21Speaker 5: least they're talking, and at least people go listen to
- 27:24Speaker 5: the project. And as much as people try to bring
- 27:27Speaker 5: up numbers and things like that. I'm trending every other day.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Facts.
- 27:32Speaker 5: Marketing can't buy that, A label can't buy that. So
- 27:35Speaker 5: people care enough to constantly have my name in their mouth.
- 27:37Speaker 5: So I'm doing something right. And you know, if it
- 27:41Speaker 5: was real what people were saying, my tours wouldn't be
- 27:44Speaker 5: sold out, people wouldn't be singing word for word on
- 27:46Speaker 5: the album I just dropped a week and a half ago.
- 27:48Speaker 5: So that's what I have to switch my perspective to
- 27:53Speaker 5: instead of allowing others and people who aren't doing anything
- 27:58Speaker 5: with themselves or their lives.
- 28:00Speaker 4: Did my light And I told you it was a marathon,
- 28:02Speaker 4: not a sprint, Like you got great records on this album,
- 28:04Speaker 4: Like yeah, you could be platinum this time next year.
- 28:07Speaker 5: Like yeah, I don't know.
- 28:07Speaker 1: People don't know.
- 28:08Speaker 5: Yeah, like singles sometimes the biggest ones take like eight
- 28:10Speaker 5: months to pop off. And that's why I love you,
- 28:13Speaker 5: because your your love is real behind doors and behind
- 28:17Speaker 5: the cameras and stuff. Because when I saw that, I
- 28:19Speaker 5: was like, yeah, I don't want to be a flash
- 28:21Speaker 5: in the pan. I'm in this for the long haul.
- 28:25Speaker 5: Like you know, it's not my first project. The only
- 28:28Speaker 5: thing that did sting is because as technical and musical
- 28:34Speaker 5: that I am, I would be like in the studio,
- 28:36Speaker 5: like nights and nights on top of nights, not sleeping
- 28:39Speaker 5: like me and my female engineer shout out to her
- 28:41Speaker 5: women it's them, but we would just be there burning
- 28:44Speaker 5: the midnight oil. I would pay attention to the bpm
- 28:46Speaker 5: transitions and the key changes into the next song. And
- 28:48Speaker 5: it's truly a conceptual piece and body of work. So
- 28:53Speaker 5: when you put so much time into that as a
- 28:55Speaker 5: skilled musician who knows what they're talking about, when people
- 28:58Speaker 5: like will just to be mean, say Empire music or
- 29:01Speaker 5: things like that, it's like, well, maybe listen to the album.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Yeah, great album. I'm sure.
- 29:06Speaker 4: Also to Beyonce has done a lot for you. People
- 29:10Speaker 4: probably don't see everybody for so much stock in social media,
- 29:13Speaker 4: like you're here because of Beyonce.
- 29:15Speaker 1: In a lot of ways.
- 29:15Speaker 5: Yeah, Like we would sing all her songs on YouTube
- 29:19Speaker 5: and things like that. So it's funny. I've always loved
- 29:21Speaker 5: her since I was a little girl.
- 29:23Speaker 7: So you talked about stepping into your sexuality on the album,
- 29:26Speaker 7: and obviously we've been seeing it in the music videos
- 29:28Speaker 7: and stuff like that. But swarm that clip that was
- 29:31Speaker 7: trending on Twitter. It was people were making it sound
- 29:35Speaker 7: like I'm getting cross, like did you see?
- 29:36Speaker 6: Did you see?
- 29:37Speaker 5: I'm like, what I guess?
- 29:38Speaker 6: I go look at it and then I look and I'm.
- 29:40Speaker 5: Like, it's really not that. It's two seconds.
- 29:41Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really not that.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Yeah, Christ for Fall, but that's like ten minutes.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Okay, So this is man, y'all. Don't ever think about us, right,
- 29:52Speaker 1: I never think about.
- 29:52Speaker 5: Us because God is good, lessons are flowing. I'm an
- 29:57Speaker 5: actress as well, and what I love what about acting
- 30:00Speaker 5: is that I'm not Chloe whenever I'm playing that certain
- 30:03Speaker 5: character and shout out to Donald Glover, Jenny Neighbors, Dominique,
- 30:07Speaker 5: Fishback and Damson like we had the best time. And
- 30:09Speaker 5: when I was shooting on that set, I fell more
- 30:11Speaker 5: in love with acting. I barely wore makeup. Everything was
- 30:14Speaker 5: shot on film. In music, you win and thrive off
- 30:19Speaker 5: of being this image of perfection or whatnot, Like you
- 30:23Speaker 5: get clowned for messing up or tripping or falling on
- 30:25Speaker 5: stage or looking a hot mess on the carpet. But
- 30:28Speaker 5: with acting, that's where the beauty is, with all of
- 30:31Speaker 5: the flaws and you know the imperfections and things like that.
- 30:35Speaker 5: So I fell in love with the script. Now I
- 30:38Speaker 5: totally like, didn't even connect. Oh I have to do
- 30:41Speaker 5: a sex scene. I've never done a sex scene before,
- 30:43Speaker 5: and I was like, okay, well, I'm not the focus
- 30:46Speaker 5: of the scene. It's really about the shock value of
- 30:49Speaker 5: Dre and Khalid watching each other and like you see
- 30:52Speaker 5: the obsession between the sister's form at the beginning.
- 30:56Speaker 6: Was it awkward shooting?
- 30:57Speaker 5: No, you see me for two seconds in the mirror
- 31:00Speaker 5: and and you did not see titties. You did not
- 31:02Speaker 5: even see crack. You saw everything. You saw everything that
- 31:07Speaker 5: you see from me on stage, Like, let's keep it real.
- 31:10Speaker 2: Did you have to call like when you told your dad,
- 31:12Speaker 2: Hey dad, this is the scene or you know what?
- 31:15Speaker 2: How was that conversation The dad's still gonna be a
- 31:17Speaker 2: dad my daughter's I don't care for sure.
- 31:21Speaker 5: Yeah. I feel like dads will always look at their
- 31:23Speaker 5: little girls like they're still little, and that's totally fine.
- 31:25Speaker 5: I One thing I will say about my parents is
- 31:28Speaker 5: that they know this is our job.
- 31:30Speaker 2: And so what was it call you called that? Hey dad,
- 31:32Speaker 2: Hi daddy, how are you feeling shooting?
- 31:35Speaker 1: Did you shoot?
- 31:35Speaker 7: Go?
- 31:36Speaker 5: Okay, So it wasn't about the shoot. It was about
- 31:38Speaker 5: when I first got it, and you know when the
- 31:41Speaker 5: agents will call and be like congrats, da da da da.
- 31:43Speaker 5: And after I got it, I think my dad read
- 31:45Speaker 5: the script and he's like, oh okay, it's like yeah
- 31:49Speaker 5: he deleted twitter O. No, it was just me. I
- 31:55Speaker 5: had to hop on a flight right after I met
- 31:57Speaker 5: you the.
- 31:57Speaker 4: Inter And that doesn't realize how much more money they
- 31:59Speaker 4: make you because if a two seconds scene cause them
- 32:03Speaker 4: to lose their mind like that, all that's gonna make
- 32:05Speaker 4: other people say is, oh, we got to get clothe
- 32:06Speaker 4: in on movies.
- 32:07Speaker 1: You gotta get clothing.
- 32:08Speaker 5: God is good.
- 32:08Speaker 1: God got to get Cloe endorsement deals.
- 32:11Speaker 6: I like how you're said she.
- 32:15Speaker 7: When you say, like acting, you can be imperfect and
- 32:19Speaker 7: the music has to be perfect. Why can't you bring
- 32:21Speaker 7: the imperfections to the music because I think, like like
- 32:24Speaker 7: with dope about Cardi b is that you could hear
- 32:26Speaker 7: she's from the Bronx, you know what I mean? And
- 32:28Speaker 7: like the spanglish she uses sometimes like why can't it
- 32:31Speaker 7: be both?
- 32:32Speaker 5: Well, I do do both, but that's what people ridicule
- 32:34Speaker 5: me for, Yeah, being imperfect, not being the type of
- 32:40Speaker 5: image they want me to be. So people say they
- 32:45Speaker 5: want certain things, and then when you do it, that's
- 32:46Speaker 5: what they used to pick on you.
- 32:48Speaker 4: The weirdest thing is when people say things like, she
- 32:50Speaker 4: don't know who she is, she's not being herself.
- 32:52Speaker 1: You don't know her, thank you, you don't even know her.
- 32:55Speaker 5: I'm sure they'd like me if they meet me. I'm
- 32:57Speaker 5: a really nice person.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you on a sold out tour?
- 33:02Speaker 2: Yeah, does that mean that you're not going to be
- 33:06Speaker 2: a special guest or that you are going to be
- 33:08Speaker 2: a special guest on somebody else's store coming up?
- 33:10Speaker 5: Well, I'm definitely. I'm definitely gonna see the show for sure,
- 33:15Speaker 5: and it's been exciting, like seeing what I've been doing
- 33:19Speaker 5: for myself. Like I've never headlined a solo tour ever
- 33:23Speaker 5: SIS and I never got to do it for On
- 33:25Speaker 5: Godly Hour because we were in the midst of a pandemic,
- 33:27Speaker 5: so I really didn't know what to expect going into it.
- 33:30Speaker 5: Like when I announced it, even before the album dropped,
- 33:32Speaker 5: I was a little nervous, like, wo people want to
- 33:34Speaker 5: come things like that? Every night, I'm like telling my
- 33:37Speaker 5: Godma and my team, I'm like, what do you see
- 33:39Speaker 5: out there? Like people out there like for some reason,
- 33:41Speaker 5: it doesn't click that people are there to see me
- 33:43Speaker 5: correct and it's sold out. And I think when you're
- 33:46Speaker 5: constantly used to people telling you otherwise, a part of you,
- 33:50Speaker 5: as much as you don't want to begins to believe it.
- 33:52Speaker 5: But then when I step out on that stage and
- 33:55Speaker 5: I see it and I hear it, it's not like
- 33:57Speaker 5: people are just watching me being quiet. They're singing the
- 34:00Speaker 5: words back to me. They're giving me that energy and
- 34:02Speaker 5: that love. You can't fake that, you can't buy that
- 34:06Speaker 5: and and make up numbers. You can't do that with that.
- 34:09Speaker 5: That's real. So as long as I'm connecting with the
- 34:12Speaker 5: ones who love me and I'm doing what makes me happy,
- 34:15Speaker 5: that's really all. Then that matters.
- 34:17Speaker 4: It was also okay to have your people say, don't
- 34:18Speaker 4: ask me no Beyonce questions. I love Beyonce and I'm
- 34:21Speaker 4: my own inthity a right, because I mean, I'm sure
- 34:23Speaker 4: Kelly Michelle, everybody's gone through that.
- 34:25Speaker 1: That is stitding next to that great person you called Beyonce.
- 34:28Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I mean she is Beyonce.
- 34:32Speaker 5: Everybody wants to know about her. So I'm just like cool,
- 34:34Speaker 5: like I don't really look much into it.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Are you gonna be open enough for her?
- 34:42Speaker 5: About Beyonce my family.
- 34:47Speaker 1: Practice? Are you gonna be open enough for Beyonce?
- 34:51Speaker 5: I plead the fifth They don't o no, no, no,
- 34:56Speaker 5: no no. I'm nice and you're my family now I
- 35:01Speaker 5: do cuss.
- 35:02Speaker 1: Are you gonna be opening up for Beyonce?
- 35:05Speaker 5: I don't know?
- 35:10Speaker 3: Take that clip going no fucking questions beyond everywhere?
- 35:14Speaker 5: That would be great.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Now with all a critique you get from being.
- 35:18Speaker 2: By the way, she said, she didn't know, She didn't
- 35:19Speaker 2: say no, she said, she says, says she's not sorry.
- 35:21Speaker 1: We heard.
- 35:22Speaker 4: Just if all a critique you get from being a
- 35:23Speaker 4: music artist, does it make you just want to stay
- 35:25Speaker 4: in acting because of because of the freedom that you're
- 35:27Speaker 4: getting acting.
- 35:28Speaker 5: That's a really great question. And in this past week
- 35:34Speaker 5: that crossed my mind a few times and I got
- 35:37Speaker 5: over it like two three days ago. Really yeah, And
- 35:41Speaker 5: I was like, when people make you doubt, and especially
- 35:48Speaker 5: as creatives, we already doubt everything we do, so you
- 35:51Speaker 5: begin to think like, oh, well, maybe this isn't for me,
- 35:54Speaker 5: But then I would be going against the exact reason
- 35:58Speaker 5: why God put me here, So why like pray it away?
- 36:03Speaker 5: Never lessen yourself to please somebody else. And that's in everything,
- 36:10Speaker 5: not even just me, not people in the business, not,
- 36:14Speaker 5: it's with everything, And I think why I love Make
- 36:17Speaker 5: It Look Easy so much. I was in New York
- 36:20Speaker 5: a couple months ago, and this was when I was
- 36:22Speaker 5: like listening to the mixes and like, I'm so technical,
- 36:25Speaker 5: I will obsess over the two empty seconds at the
- 36:27Speaker 5: end when it comes to mastering. Anyways, I was listening
- 36:30Speaker 5: to it and I saw a single mom with her child.
- 36:34Speaker 5: I saw a man who kind of looked really sad
- 36:35Speaker 5: with his briefcase, and I saw a homeless man all
- 36:37Speaker 5: while like make it look easy, make it look easy,
- 36:39Speaker 5: make it look easy, was playing, And in that moment,
- 36:42Speaker 5: I said, Okay, I'm doing what I've been praying for.
- 36:46Speaker 5: That I healed through my music because it's bigger than me,
- 36:49Speaker 5: Like when I leave this world, I want my music
- 36:51Speaker 5: to make a difference when people come to me and
- 36:54Speaker 5: tell me because I'm open about my mental health journey
- 36:57Speaker 5: and you know how I was struggling with even still here,
- 37:00Speaker 5: they say that that saved them because they felt less alone.
- 37:03Speaker 5: So that on its own holds so much more weight
- 37:07Speaker 5: than anything you could ever put in comparison to that.
- 37:12Speaker 5: When you get stuff like that, numbers don't matter, awards
- 37:14Speaker 5: don't matter. I'm not doing it for that. I'm doing
- 37:17Speaker 5: it because it makes me happy. It's literally like my
- 37:19Speaker 5: favorite thing in the world.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Love that so well.
- 37:22Speaker 2: I I got to ask you about they're making me
- 37:25Speaker 2: ask about Iheartland.
- 37:27Speaker 5: Oh yes, Iheartland.
- 37:28Speaker 1: I don't know what that is.
- 37:31Speaker 5: I know I do, I do, I do. Shout out
- 37:34Speaker 5: to our heart, hut out to our heart. Thank y'all
- 37:35Speaker 5: for playing my songs, Thank you for me. I did
- 37:40Speaker 5: like a five song concert and it was amazing. I
- 37:44Speaker 5: got to do it in front of an audience like
- 37:45Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty people I think of like my
- 37:47Speaker 5: closest fans. And this was before the album even came out.
- 37:50Speaker 5: So it was the best. It was me with a
- 37:52Speaker 5: band and it was great. So I actually really love it.
- 37:55Speaker 5: It turned out really nice, to be honest.
- 37:57Speaker 2: So it is this Friday at seven pm. They haven't
- 37:59Speaker 2: told me where Charla it is my heart the metaverse,
- 38:08Speaker 2: you see, they didn't tell us much about it. They
- 38:10Speaker 2: just said, ask about I Heartland.
- 38:11Speaker 5: That's what following for you.
- 38:14Speaker 4: Oh iHeartRadio dot com slash I Heeartland. You know that's
- 38:17Speaker 4: that is heart radio dot com slas Heartland. I'm sorry
- 38:19Speaker 4: that such a journey.
- 38:20Speaker 6: You're good following for you you're talking about I don't
- 38:23Speaker 6: need a man. That's the interlew Right.
- 38:24Speaker 7: Yes, we're like, where were you at when you came
- 38:27Speaker 7: up with that? Okay, it happened, So that's not me speaking.
- 38:33Speaker 7: So it's my Godmom and I had my phone out.
- 38:38Speaker 7: She gotten and she's from the Caribbean.
- 38:42Speaker 3: Where islands you from? What island you're from? Godmom?
- 38:45Speaker 6: She covered her face.
- 38:47Speaker 5: She even hates the camera.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Oh, I was just was just there. I was there
- 38:56Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I loved it at a ball.
- 39:00Speaker 5: So we were in the car and God bless his soul,
- 39:03Speaker 5: he was really great. He got us there safely. The
- 39:04Speaker 5: driver from a shoot. He was opening up to us
- 39:07Speaker 5: about his love life, his personal love life. It was
- 39:09Speaker 5: me and my Godmama and my stylus in the car,
- 39:12Speaker 5: and so it started branching out, like the double standards
- 39:16Speaker 5: with men and women and things like that. So I
- 39:21Speaker 5: pulled out my phone to record the back and forth
- 39:23Speaker 5: because I wanted to send it to Halle and Joe
- 39:24Speaker 5: and Branson. And I was dying laughing. It's a ten
- 39:26Speaker 5: minute conversation. And this was when I was filming Praises
- 39:30Speaker 5: at the time, so I was in the studio with
- 39:32Speaker 5: Dream and I played it for him like the whole
- 39:34Speaker 5: ten minutes because we were just laughing about it. Shout
- 39:37Speaker 5: out to him, I love him, he's family, and he
- 39:39Speaker 5: was like, you need to make this into an interlude
- 39:41Speaker 5: or I'm gonna take it and do it. I was like,
- 39:42Speaker 5: you think so He's like, yes, like take a portion.
- 39:45Speaker 5: So then when I sent it to Halle, she said
- 39:47Speaker 5: the same thing, and I was like, God, are you
- 39:49Speaker 5: trying to tell me something? And there was this interlude
- 39:52Speaker 5: that I just had the hook on that I really
- 39:55Speaker 5: had nothing left else to say on it, and I
- 39:57Speaker 5: was like, Oh, I got it. That's it, because I
- 40:00Speaker 5: the juxtaposition of in the beginning it's like, yes, I'm
- 40:02Speaker 5: falling for you, I'm losing myself because of how much
- 40:06Speaker 5: I love you. But it's like it flips when you
- 40:09Speaker 5: hear her come and say, fuck that ship. I'm not
- 40:11Speaker 5: laying down and giving myself to a man just to
- 40:14Speaker 5: lose myself. So it really as a cancer because when
- 40:18Speaker 5: I'm in love, I give my all and I think
- 40:20Speaker 5: that's why I needed to be single this past year,
- 40:23Speaker 5: so I could put all of the attention and focus
- 40:25Speaker 5: on myself. So I love it so much. It even
- 40:27Speaker 5: starts off the tour at the top of the show.
- 40:31Speaker 2: I love it well, I'm I represent you God Mom.
- 40:34Speaker 2: And since we didn't get clearance for that record, we
- 40:36Speaker 2: need PC.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Did you voice? We need PC.
- 40:42Speaker 2: You need to take it to court or you know,
- 40:44Speaker 2: you can pay a sitiside whatever whatever you prefer.
- 40:47Speaker 7: Come on, Yeah, the record that you did with Missy Elliott.
- 40:51Speaker 7: Did you guys do that together? I want to know
- 40:53Speaker 7: what is it like working with Missy Elliott?
- 40:55Speaker 4: Another cancers and studio same birthday July first.
- 41:00Speaker 5: Okay, so first off saying because of her, it gave
- 41:06Speaker 5: me confidence as a black woman to produce and let
- 41:10Speaker 5: my nerd kind of fly in that way. So around
- 41:14Speaker 5: Grammy weekend, I got the call from Grammys and Harvey
- 41:18Speaker 5: Mason because he did the music for Praises, and they
- 41:20Speaker 5: were like, oh, we want you to honor Missy at
- 41:23Speaker 5: BMC Black Music Collective. I was like, are you kidding me?
- 41:27Speaker 4: Yes?
- 41:27Speaker 5: I love her, Like, out of all the tributes I've
- 41:29Speaker 5: ever done, this was the one and even her manager
- 41:32Speaker 5: Mona Scott. She said that I was on her wish
- 41:34Speaker 5: list of people, so it was a surprise that I
- 41:36Speaker 5: was supposed to be there. So I was already freaking out,
- 41:39Speaker 5: one because I knew I'd be singing in front of her,
- 41:41Speaker 5: and two to know that she even likes me and
- 41:44Speaker 5: knows of me. So I got out on that stage
- 41:48Speaker 5: and I saw her, I was like, oh my gosh.
- 41:50Speaker 5: And I sang one in a million and one minute man.
- 41:53Speaker 5: And after I got off that stage, I held her
- 41:55Speaker 5: so tight and I was like, thank you for everything
- 41:57Speaker 5: that you've done and inspired me with. And that was
- 42:02Speaker 5: when I was finishing the final mixes of my album.
- 42:05Speaker 5: And like two days later, I was listening to Toldia
- 42:08Speaker 5: and the beat is heavily inspired by her, as a
- 42:12Speaker 5: lot of the tracks on there are, and I looked
- 42:15Speaker 5: at my god mom, who's my manager? I was like,
- 42:18Speaker 5: what if we got Missy on Toldia? And she gave
- 42:20Speaker 5: me the eye. And then maybe a few hours later,
- 42:24Speaker 5: I got a text from a random number on my phone.
- 42:26Speaker 5: It was Missy and she was thanking me for the
- 42:29Speaker 5: tribute and how much she loves me and to keep
- 42:31Speaker 5: going and to keep God first and she does not
- 42:35Speaker 5: know how much her saying that coming from her meant
- 42:38Speaker 5: to me, and I got her verse super Bowl morning.
- 42:42Speaker 5: I literally cried out on the floor in the hotel room,
- 42:45Speaker 5: like for twenty minutes because for some reason, whenever I'm
- 42:49Speaker 5: like going through something, I like make high energy songs.
- 42:52Speaker 5: That's how I have mercy got started. It was like to
- 42:54Speaker 5: clap back at all the people saying I show my
- 42:55Speaker 5: ass too much and told youa I was in the
- 42:58Speaker 5: studio with Taran again was like, man, people are telling
- 43:01Speaker 5: me I can't do this, they're underestimating me. And he's like,
- 43:04Speaker 5: you know what, We're gonna tell those motherfuckers. So that's
- 43:06Speaker 5: why it's called I told you so. Even though it
- 43:08Speaker 5: sounds like from such a big place of confidence, it
- 43:10Speaker 5: really came from a place of feeling so small. So
- 43:13Speaker 5: with all of that being said, to have an icon
- 43:15Speaker 5: like her put her stamp of approval on a song
- 43:19Speaker 5: that I wrote because I felt like I wasn't good
- 43:21Speaker 5: enough to do this, that's that meant so much to me.
- 43:24Speaker 4: I've seen the change, Like there was a time where
- 43:27Speaker 4: it was still Chloe publicist talking points.
- 43:30Speaker 1: Yeah, you ripped that up in the last last month,
- 43:34Speaker 1: or so I've seen. Yeah, I've seen.
- 43:35Speaker 5: You're human. You Yeah, we're human like none of us
- 43:38Speaker 5: are perfect, and it's boring to act like we are.
- 43:42Speaker 3: So you want to you got another question? You want
- 43:44Speaker 3: to get into a joint?
- 43:45Speaker 1: Off anything else?
- 43:46Speaker 6: Now we can get into it.
- 43:48Speaker 1: Okay.
- 43:48Speaker 4: I just want to tell my cousin that, you know,
- 43:50Speaker 4: she knows our love her, and you know, I want
- 43:53Speaker 4: to tell you it's better if it's something my therapist
- 43:55Speaker 4: told me. Actually, it's better to be slandered than ignored, right,
- 43:58Speaker 4: and all anoise.
- 44:00Speaker 1: Is the price you pay for all of the good
- 44:02Speaker 1: you do in the world.
- 44:04Speaker 5: I love that.
- 44:06Speaker 1: Mm hmm, ain't downloaded? Don't know?
- 44:09Speaker 5: Shut up?
- 44:10Speaker 3: Man?
- 44:11Speaker 5: Did you did you download the album?
- 44:14Speaker 3: I streamed it?
- 44:16Speaker 5: Okay, So what was your favorite song?
- 44:18Speaker 1: Good? Now you got them? Now you got it?
- 44:21Speaker 5: You keep one of those the bus? Tell me your
- 44:24Speaker 5: favorite song.
- 44:25Speaker 2: I'm a DJ, So I played the records in the club?
- 44:27Speaker 2: So which one the club?
- 44:30Speaker 5: Which did you play from in pieces? Because have Mercy
- 44:32Speaker 5: isn't on in pieces?
- 44:33Speaker 3: It might be that.
- 44:37Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Chloe, but I want to hear from the
- 44:40Speaker 4: album right now. And even though I don't personally, you know,
- 44:45Speaker 4: I love I love the song sonically, but I don't
- 44:47Speaker 4: like what it stands for A cheap my future.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Okay, that's because I think that's it.
- 44:52Speaker 3: We're gonna get into it now.
- 44:53Speaker 1: You are DJ. What you think is the hit by body?
- 44:56Speaker 3: Do it?
- 44:56Speaker 6: Got that energy? The weather is warm now?
- 44:59Speaker 2: Both both both that's Chloe Bailey, ladies and gentlemen.
- 45:03Speaker 3: Thank you for joining.
- 45:04Speaker 5: Thank you guys, I love you.
- 45:06Speaker 2: And it's the Breakfast Club is Chloe Bally one said,
- 45:09Speaker 2: we gotta just do some for BT.
- 45:11Speaker 3: Cool Hi, we.
- 45:13Speaker 2: Got more with Chloe Bailey when we come back, Don't Move,
- 45:15Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club on BT. We got more with
- 45:18Speaker 2: Chloe Bailey. It's the Breakfast Club on BT. We got
- 45:22Speaker 2: what when we come back? We got more with Chloe Bailly.
- 45:24Speaker 2: It's the Breakfast Club on BT. Don't Move, Don't go
- 45:28Speaker 2: anywhere Chloe Bailey when we come back on BT.
- 45:32Speaker 3: That was Chloe Bailey on BT rumors on the way.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you,