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Legally Brunette Presents: ‘Til Death Do Us Part - A TikTok Turned Deadly · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to Till Death Do Us Part. I'll
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  Speaker 1: be your host today, Emily Simpson with Shane. Okay, today
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  Speaker 1: we're going to talk about a case that just recently
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  Speaker 1: popped up. It's been all over my newsfeed. And by newsfeed,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean my Instagram feed. It is about
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  Speaker 1: an influencer named Sarah Gilson and her soon to be
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  Speaker 1: ex husband and this case, I see it everywhere, but
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  Speaker 1: it has originated and become very popular to talk about
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  Speaker 1: because this crime occurred because of a TikTok that she made.
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard of this case?
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  Speaker 2: I heard very little, but I heard enough to know
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  Speaker 2: it's disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: It is disturbing, all right. When Sarah Gilson discovered a
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  Speaker 1: dark secret about the man that she married, she did
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  Speaker 1: what many people would do to this day and age.
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  Speaker 1: She told the world via TikTok. Yeah, but some secrets,
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  Speaker 1: once spoken aloud, have consequences no protective order can stop.
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  Speaker 1: Weeks after going public, Sarah was silenced permanently, and the
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  Speaker 1: man she feared made sure no one would ever hear
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  Speaker 1: her side of the story either. The only witness was
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  Speaker 1: her child. So I don't know if you knew this
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  Speaker 1: trend This started out because she did a TikTok trend
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  Speaker 1: or I saw it on Instagram, so it was clearly
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  Speaker 1: just a social media trend, and it was based on
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  Speaker 1: there's all these Netflix documentaries, right, and they all have
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same thing where they show the chair, right,
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  Speaker 1: and then someone comes in and sits in the chair.
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  Speaker 1: So this has been a trend going on social media
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  Speaker 1: where they show a chair and then someone goes and
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  Speaker 1: sits down and.
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  Speaker 2: Is usually the spouse.
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  Speaker 1: Well it's not always bashing his house.
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  Speaker 2: It usually, like you know, it's trying to embarrass the
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  Speaker 2: spouse or make a joke of the spouse.
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  Speaker 1: So I've seen people that have made references to lots
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  Speaker 1: of different things. Well I saw one that showed a
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  Speaker 1: chair and then no one went and said it and
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  Speaker 1: it said something about you know, their mom preparing for
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  Speaker 1: their Netflix documentary to take accountability, and then the chair
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  Speaker 1: was empty, which I thought was funny, and then I
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  Speaker 1: sent it to my sister. So anyway, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's just you can make it into a thing
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  Speaker 1: you want that's relevant in your own life. So she
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  Speaker 1: made this TikTok about a Netflix documentary where she finds
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  Speaker 1: out that her soon to be ex husband is actually
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  Speaker 1: a pedophile, and then she posts it, and then it
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  Speaker 1: goes viral, and it gets millions of views and thousands
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  Speaker 1: of comments, and she calls this guy out on being
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  Speaker 1: a pedophile publicly. So. Sarah Gilson is forty three and
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  Speaker 1: she's a Tulsa era area hairstylist and TikTok content creator
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  Speaker 1: with over thirty thousand followers. She was in the process
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  Speaker 1: of divorcing her husband, Jeremiah, but he goes by Sean Duffy,
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  Speaker 1: who is forty eight years old. On June tenth of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, police informed Sarah that her estranged husband
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  Speaker 1: had been accused of molesting a minor. It was a
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  Speaker 1: fifteen year old girl who played on a youth basketball
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  Speaker 1: team that he coached. So I guess he's the coach
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  Speaker 1: of like a traveling girls basketball team. And from what
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  Speaker 1: I understand because I read several articles on this, this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the first incident. There had been multiple incidents with
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  Speaker 1: this fifteen year old girl over multiple states, because it's
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  Speaker 1: a traveling basketball team with the same I believe, with
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  Speaker 1: the same fifteen year old girl.
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  Speaker 2: But the same suspect.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we're talking about the same to the.
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  Speaker 2: Husband victim and the husband Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He allegedly kissed and inappropriately touched the girl and was
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  Speaker 1: caught by another coach. According to the girl's mother, I
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  Speaker 1: guess the coach, this other coach that saw this incident happened,
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  Speaker 1: reached out and told the girl's mother. The girl's mother
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  Speaker 1: filed a protective order against Duffy on behalf of her daughter.
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  Speaker 1: All Right. Reports claim that the alleged misconduct extended beyond
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  Speaker 1: just physical contact. The mother claimed Duffy, this is the
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  Speaker 1: soon to be ex husband of this influencer, had sent
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  Speaker 1: her daughter private messages, extended an invitation to his hotel
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  Speaker 1: tellroom during an out of town tournament, and offered her
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  Speaker 1: money and in an apparent attempt to buy text First
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  Speaker 1: of all, what idiot is texting a fifteen year old
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  Speaker 1: this guy, this creep.
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  Speaker 2: But so that that's un challengeable, Like that's in writing
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  Speaker 2: that he's doing. He's inviting her to the hotel room
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  Speaker 2: and he's offering her money. Right, So yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just like you can't get out of that one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now there's also a witness. The other coach saw him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's out for my job, or you know, you
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  Speaker 2: can make stuff up. But I'm saying, when it's in
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  Speaker 2: a text message, how's he going to get out of
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  Speaker 2: that one?
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  Speaker 1: Right? The same day that protective order was filed, Sarah
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  Speaker 1: filed for and was granted an emergency protective order against Duffy.
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  Speaker 1: He was ordered to vacate their shared home and stay
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  Speaker 1: at least one hundred yards away from her. The way
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  Speaker 1: I understand it is when they so the police get
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  Speaker 1: a protective work or the mother of the girl gets
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  Speaker 1: the protective order, the police are made aware. They're also
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  Speaker 1: made aware that there's been other incidents other than just
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  Speaker 1: this one. My understanding is the police then reach out
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  Speaker 1: to his soon to be ex wife and say, you
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  Speaker 1: need to get a productive order because I believe he
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  Speaker 1: went on the run when he knew about this. He
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  Speaker 1: disappears and so he's out.
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  Speaker 2: So the police have advised her that she's potentially in danger.
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  Speaker 1: Right, so she gets a productive order. Yes, it's granted.
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  Speaker 1: The petition noted that he possessed a firearm, had made
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  Speaker 1: suicide threats previously, and fled after being confronted about the accusations,
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  Speaker 1: so we know he's on the run. He flees this
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  Speaker 1: was not Sarah's first attempt to seek legal protection against him.
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  Speaker 1: According to court records, she had filed two protective orders
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  Speaker 1: previously against him back in twenty twenty one. One was
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  Speaker 1: for stalking and another one was for abuse. However, she
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  Speaker 1: would file for these protective orders, and then when it
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  Speaker 1: came time for there to be a hearing, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there has to be a hearing, because he has to
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  Speaker 1: get noticed and he has to be given due process
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  Speaker 1: to show up and tell his side of the story,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't show up at the hearings. So the two
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  Speaker 1: protective orders that she filed against him in twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: neither one of them was granted because she never followed
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  Speaker 1: through on them.
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  Speaker 2: So she didn't feel a threat enough to go in pursue.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think I don't think that's a correct conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: You could say maybe he threatened her. Maybe she was
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  Speaker 1: scared to go through with it. I mean, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know what happened. Maybe he did the love bombing thing
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  Speaker 1: where he's like, oh, I'm so sorry, I'll never hit
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  Speaker 1: you or stalk you again. I promise you know. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. On July eleven, Sarah publicly posted a TikTok,
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  Speaker 1: accusing Duffy of pedophilia. She wrote, quote preparing for when
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  Speaker 1: netflox drops a documentary about my soon to be ex
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  Speaker 1: husband who I just found out is a pedophile. Did
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  Speaker 1: you say Netflix, Netflox? I thought I said Netflix, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe I said Netflox Netflix Netflix. All right, Okay, can
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  Speaker 1: we just talk about this for a second. And this
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  Speaker 1: is not me victim blaming, because I would never do this.
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  Speaker 1: This is an innocent woman who is murdered by a
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  Speaker 1: horrible and should never have a man, and this should
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  Speaker 1: have never happened. My only comment is if she knows
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  Speaker 1: that he's abusive because she filed two protective for two
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  Speaker 1: protective orders earlier in twenty twenty one. She knows that
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  Speaker 1: he's done something with a fifteen year old and he
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  Speaker 1: is now on the run. She knows that he has
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  Speaker 1: a weapon, She's accused him of stalking and being abusive
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  Speaker 1: in her past. And I do know, because I read
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  Speaker 1: this earlier, that she has an ex husband who she
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  Speaker 1: has the two children with, who has told her to
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  Speaker 1: get away from this man because he's a problem and
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  Speaker 1: he's abusive. Why make the TikTok video calling him out
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  Speaker 1: and publicly. I mean, he's going to be called he's
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  Speaker 1: people are going to know he's a pedophile. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be arrested once they find him. He fleet,
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  Speaker 1: he fled, fleed, he fleet, he fled. Yeah, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying everyone is going to learn that he is a pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: The making of the TikTok video.
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  Speaker 2: And point she did it in such a like she's
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  Speaker 2: just following a trend too. It's like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: It's just like, were you really trying to give notice
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  Speaker 2: or you're trying to get clicks or you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: be funny about it, Like was it really a concern?
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  Speaker 2: And how does this help you and your your your family?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just wish I just wish she
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  Speaker 1: didn't poke.
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  Speaker 2: Why do people post that don't help, like prop up
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  Speaker 2: their family. Why would you post something that's gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Just well, he's not the father of her children.
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  Speaker 2: But it's just yeah, but it's causing issue as we
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  Speaker 2: know here because they're murdered.
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  Speaker 1: I know. My whole point is, you know, this man
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  Speaker 1: is abusive, and he has a firearm, and he's and
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  Speaker 1: he's threatened suicide and all these things in the past,
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  Speaker 1: and you filed for two protective orders against him, and
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  Speaker 1: now you've been granted a third protective order. Why poke
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  Speaker 1: the bear who's on the run with the weapon, That's
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  Speaker 1: all I'm saying, all right, On July twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Third, I'll tell you why. Because people can't resist going
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  Speaker 2: on social media and putting every aspect of their life home.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just wish Sarah wouldn't have done that. I
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  Speaker 1: wish I wish she would have second guessed herself, thought
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  Speaker 1: about a little more, and thought, this probably isn't a
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  Speaker 1: good idea, because this is a madman. On July twenty
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  Speaker 1: third to twenty twenty six, less than two weeks after
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  Speaker 1: her post, a nine to one to one dispatcher reported
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  Speaker 1: hearing a woman screaming and crying in the background of
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  Speaker 1: an emergency call. This was placed from Sarah Gilson's Oaso,
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma home. Sarah's son allegedly made that call to nine
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  Speaker 1: one one and reported that his stepfather had shown up
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  Speaker 1: and shot his mother. Sarah had two children, a daughter
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  Speaker 1: and a son, and these children were from a previous marriage,
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  Speaker 1: which is what we had talked about just a minute ago.
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  Speaker 1: Her first husband, who's the father of the two children
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  Speaker 1: has come out and said that he had that he
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  Speaker 1: co parented with her very well, and that they had
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  Speaker 1: a good relationship and that she was a great mother,
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  Speaker 1: but that he had told her that she needed to
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  Speaker 1: get away from this guy. The call came in at
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  Speaker 1: approximately eleven fifteen pm on July twenty third, with the
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  Speaker 1: dispatcher noting a loud bang that was audible during the call.
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  Speaker 1: On the dismatch audio, the operator can be heard referencing
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  Speaker 1: a male subject who had previously been flagged by authorities
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago after he got caught kissing a juvenile,
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  Speaker 1: along with the mention of a firearm. Police confirmed their
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  Speaker 1: arrival at the scene just minutes later around eleven eighteen pm.
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  Speaker 1: When police arrived, they found both Sarah Gilson and Sean
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  Speaker 1: Duffy dead from a parent gunshot wounds to the head.
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  Speaker 1: The case is being investigated as a murder suicide. Sarah's
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  Speaker 1: son was taken into protective custody and later release to
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  Speaker 1: an uninvolved parent. I don't know who the uninvolved parent is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it says uninvolved parent. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what that means. I mean, it must mean the father.
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  Speaker 1: It must mean the dad I think in the crime, right,
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  Speaker 1: uninvolved in the crime. It must have been released to
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  Speaker 1: his father at that point, so I don't know where
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  Speaker 1: there's a daughter too, but I don't know the ages
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  Speaker 1: or anything, So I don't know what are your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: I try to tell you my thoughts. You disagreed with them.
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  Speaker 2: That was not why you said, why did she post
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  Speaker 2: it in this night? I said, yeah, I just said,
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  Speaker 2: why why would anyone post anything it's not going to
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  Speaker 2: be positive for their family? Why would you post something
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  Speaker 2: so negative or yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Well, when you say family, again, he's not the father
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  Speaker 1: of her children, and I don't believe they have children together,
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  Speaker 1: So he's just an ex husband.
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  Speaker 2: So she's dead. Yeah, it affected her children? Yes, So
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  Speaker 2: I'm again I'm saying, why would you make such a
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  Speaker 2: post that negatively impacts your Why would you just make
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  Speaker 2: such a negative post, Like why would you want that negativity?
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  Speaker 1: People are all going to find out and her children's
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  Speaker 1: to find out he's a pedophile. I'm just saying the
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  Speaker 1: way she did it on a platform like that where
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  Speaker 1: it goes viral and gets millions of views, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it had like thousands and thousands and thousands of
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  Speaker 1: comments is probably what pushed that guy over the edge,
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  Speaker 1: because the media, the social media world can be very brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Where were we Who is the guy from what was
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  Speaker 1: the show? Where he got backlash from social media and
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  Speaker 1: he ended up committing suicide. I'm talking about social media.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about recent social media where people become attacked
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  Speaker 1: on social media. So I'm talking about the guy and
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  Speaker 1: Storage Wars that ended up committing suicide. And didn't he
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  Speaker 1: leave a suicide note basically saying that he could.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't handle it anymore? Someone had still on the identity
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  Speaker 2: and started coming out as gay and this and then
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  Speaker 2: just kind of bowling that way and messing with his
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  Speaker 2: identity and he couldn't handle it anymore and he killed himself.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't there like some social media backlash because of
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  Speaker 1: him being on Storage Wars or something. No, I'm just saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: when you make a TikTok like that and it goes
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  Speaker 1: out and it goes viral.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to get people's attention, right.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know what was happening. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if people were then reaching out to him and attacking him.
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  Speaker 1: All I know is you're talking about someone who's a lunatic,
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  Speaker 1: who has a gun, who is threatened, and.
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  Speaker 2: Who's in a pedophile.
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  Speaker 1: Right, it's very unfortunate what happened, and it's very sad
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  Speaker 1: what happened, because that child was in the house. He
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  Speaker 1: could have he could have killed the child too. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if he was that angry that he was coming after
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  Speaker 1: her and he went even though there's a training order,
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  Speaker 1: and he went to the house and he took a
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  Speaker 1: gun and he shot her and shot himself, I mean, he.
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  Speaker 2: Could have the foughtder. Apparently co parents and they do
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  Speaker 2: well together, then hopefully the child can now have an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to kind of be able to have some stability.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying they're very lucky that he didn't also
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  Speaker 1: turn the gun on that child that was in the
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  Speaker 1: house at the same time. Correct, Correct, all right. TMZ
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  Speaker 1: reported that Duffy's ex wife said that the alleged murder
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  Speaker 1: suicide did not surprise her, though the specifics of her
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  Speaker 1: statements are still emerging and this is still a developing story.
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  Speaker 1: Over twelve million Americans are victimized by intimate partners annually.
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  Speaker 1: Women ages eighteen to thirty four are at the highest risk,
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  Speaker 1: with one in four women and one in seven men
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  Speaker 1: experiencing domestic violence in their lifetime. Nearly half of all
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  Speaker 1: incidents go unreported. I mean, that's the question why. Probably
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  Speaker 1: because people women are scared to report it because the
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  Speaker 1: retaliation is probably worse than the actual abuse in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. It's not that easy.
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  Speaker 2: It's the response isn't so quick to protect, so I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they can only do so much law enforcement, so then
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  Speaker 2: they're vulnerable to being attacked again.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, a restraining order is a
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  Speaker 1: restraining order, and that's great. It's on a piece of paper.
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  Speaker 1: It tells someone you can't come within a hundred year.
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  Speaker 2: Does or whatever catch the person violating it and then
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  Speaker 2: hopefully throw them in jail or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: But really it's not any type of protection other than
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  Speaker 1: a piece paper.
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  Speaker 2: As is proven here.
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  Speaker 1: Key risk factors for perpetrating domestic violence, witnessing parental abuse
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  Speaker 1: as a child, being abused as a child, conduct, antisocial
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  Speaker 1: personality disorders, and holding hostile attitudes towards women all significantly
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  Speaker 1: increase the likelihood of committing intimate partner violence. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what would you tell your daughters, because everyone says
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  Speaker 1: why can't you just leave? I think that's the that's
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  Speaker 1: the universal question. Everyone's like, well, why didn't she just leave?
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  Speaker 1: Why didn't she just leave?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. What would you tell I.
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  Speaker 1: Would tell them to leave and to come to me.
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  Speaker 1: You always have a home here, I will protect you.
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  Speaker 1: Come here, leave walk away.
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  Speaker 2: So if they even tell you that much.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I just try to keep the lines of communication open.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell Annabel to tell me anything, and I
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  Speaker 1: won't judge and I won't get upset, and hopefully we
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  Speaker 1: just continue that open line of communication. Also, she needs
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  Speaker 1: to have positive male role mom in her life that
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  Speaker 1: she looks up to, so she knows what the standard
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  Speaker 1: is that that you know, Like, the way you treat
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  Speaker 1: me is what is modeling in front of her? Right?
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  Speaker 2: What about the way you treat me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you treating me because she is a girl,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Studies indicate that roughly seventy six percent of
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  Speaker 1: intimate partner homicides and eighty five percent of attempted homicides
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  Speaker 1: of women involved at least one incident of stalking in
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  Speaker 1: the year prior to the attack, with digital tracking and
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  Speaker 1: social media monitoring heavily contributing to this cycle. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: that's very interesting that a lot of it has to
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  Speaker 1: do with stalking first as well the obsession.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the gateway crime.
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  Speaker 1: The Gateway crime is starting. Yeah, all right, well that
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  Speaker 1: is the story of the influencer and her TikTok. If
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  Speaker 1: there's any more information that comes out that we would
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  Speaker 1: want to address, we will do that. But anyway, it's
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  Speaker 1: a sad situation.
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  Speaker 2: Hopefully that child is with the father and has some stability, right.
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  Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much for listening to
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  Speaker 1: the case of Sarah Gilson, the Influencer and Sean Duffy.
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